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>character is a big fan of classic rock music
>his favourite band is Kiss
Why is this so common in media? Characters from Peter Griffin to some other examples all seem to love Kiss? Is it some big Hollywood in joke?
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Lol how did fans react when they saw those hideous faces without makeup
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>>218307818
it was a gen x thing, they had a huge boner for kiss for some reason
>>218307959
no, that's vinnie. he was a fuckable little twink and he might've went the whole way in recent years cause he's kinda eccentric
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>>218307818
If I told you this was my aunt and uncle when they were young, you wouldn't even think twice.
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>>218307818
This is the reason grunge took over cock rock. The irony is that 80s rockers canceled disco because disco was "too homosexual" coded but hard rock turned into prancing homos and pedos pretty quickly after that.
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KISS is one of the most nihilistically commercial bands to ever exist. Someone legitimately liking them is a marker that they have no actual taste, and just followed popular trends.
They're not even sellouts, because to sell out you have to have had artistic integrity at some point. They were a pure commercial venture from day one that was created by the industry to cash in on a trend, and the fact that they got so big is direct indictment of the intelligence of the American people.
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>>218307818
Well, the reception would have been a little "meh" because it was truly only half of KISS unmasked. People wanted Ace and Peter, not Eric or Vinnie, as tight as they were.
>>218308557
Congratulations, you bought exactly what they were trying to sell you.
">"We don't care about music, just bitches and fame!"
Unfortunately there's a lot of unmistakable work and love in the songcraft, which is why musicians tend to like KISS. I'd give my left nut for some of those hooks. You probably also think Motley Crue was snorting rails off the faders and NWA was shooting cops in between takes.
Gene and Paul would never admit it, but they agonized over these tracks.
https://youtu.be/yEioRXSgdsk?si=_Yd1t73l4Kb6yDgN
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>>218307933
They are very ethnic looking without the make up.
>>218307818
Writers want the characters to be losers/trash/dumb so they have them like the music of KISS.
So in a sense it is a "Joke" but also Kiss is fairly well known so the general audience will have at least heard of "I want to rock n roll all night and party every day"
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>>218308007
Jews is the correct answer.
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>>218308557
Did they set out to make it big, money, fame and the lot from day one? You betcha.
Were they one of many bands in the line of usa bands who were swept by the power of a sound, backed by good productions without much essence and understanding of the realm of rock'n'roll as a protest music, like the Ramones or limp bizkit 25 years later? They were.
But they are legitimately one of the greatest heavy metal bands ever.
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>>218307818
/mu/ poster here with an incredibly patrician taste, who also hates Stanley and Simmons as persons.
That said, Kiss was a solid hard rock band in the '70s. Even many american bands of the '80s and '90s with a really high hipster cred paid homage to them.
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>>218308557
I knew a chick in high school who wore a KISS t-shirt. She didn't even listen to KISS, she just had the t-shirt because her mom got it for her at a discount at the local supermarket and neither of them gave a fuck about what KISS even is. It was just a t-shirt to them. And that's pretty much what KISS is, when you think about it. Just a t-shirt, or some other merchandise item. A novelty. No one thinks their music is something worthy of note.
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>>218307818
They were a real shit band. Their appeal was 100% marketing and appearance.
>>218308557 - this
>>218309312
>But they are legitimately one of the greatest heavy metal bands ever.
Seriously? Everything i've heard by them was weak, boring crap. Post a good song please
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>>218309940
I'm not a KISS fan but this is a good song in my opinion
https://youtu.be/j72DbYsawW8
but it's not like it's any different from the average Led Zeppelin clone
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>>218309947
I'm talking about my own experiences here. I'm sure there's people who like KISS, like how there's people who like Nirvana or Che Guevara. But all those things are commercialized to a point where they're just logos sold by corporations. Most such people have no idea what the fuck grunge or communism even is. They just like the t-shirt.
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>>218307933
Mixed, it didn't matter though. KISS's era was over by then. But they were still able to coast on their fame into permanent C-list status, like Gene being able to guest star on Miami Vice as a drug dealer.
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>>218307959
>There was a chick in KISS?
>He was talking about Vinnie Vincent. Vinnie Vincent is not a girl
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>>218309902
Go to bed Chris
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>>218312928
Hotter Than Hell
Love Gun
I Stole Your Love
War Machine
I Want You
Deuce
Cold Gin
Shock Me (especially the Alive II version)
King of the Nighttime World
Detroit Rock City
Black Diamond
Parasite
Let Me Go Rock n Roll
Ladies Room
Should I go on?
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>no, that's vinnie. he was a fuckable little twink and he might've went the whole way in recent years cause he's kinda eccentric
Looking like an old lady instead of an old man without actually trying. Maybe it's the drugs.
>eccentric
lots and lots of drugs
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>>218308920
>no you see! kiss WANTED you to think they were shitty sellouts! they KNEW that would be a good thing!!
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You have no idea how normalized pedophilia was until well into the 80's. And not just among weirdo rightist religious types like now but people thought of as progressive intellectuals. It's one of the most memoryholed things in recent history.
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>>218307818
They're one of the moment famous bands of all time and one of the most notable among NON-rock heads for their exaggerate look. Even then, it isn't always Kiss. The Rolling Stones, the Eagles, etc etc. Movies/TV don't waste time delving into niche artists unless they themselves are trying to appeal to a niche audience. They use bands, video games, other pop culture etc as props. They know 99% of their audience will understand "He really likes KISS and SUPER MARIO!". They know their audience will grunt like confused chimps if they say "He really likes Greenslade and Umihara Kawase!"
Since we're on /tv/, do you want to just come right out and admit you only picked this band because Gene Simmons is notably jewish, and you're trying to ball it together into some coy loaded question about nepotism or something? I mean do you really wanna pretend 4chan isn't 23 years old and has seen this pattern before?
>>218307933
They were always aware of them.
>>218307969
They performed often without makeup. It wasn't a secret.
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>>218309131
It's truly sad that you're this delusional.
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>>218308557
Every KISS hater will say shit like this but if you ask them if they know any KISS songs they’re like
>no I would never listen to that lame rock shit, I only listen to Kendrick Lamar because I’m a snivelling little cuck who never had a strong father figure
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>>218308557
Simmons has a fucking moneybag as brand logo and name and even the Scooby Doo special went all in with the retarded merch like KISS toilets and smelling salts - I genuinely appreciate that they're so blunt and open about it and I really can't hate them for not bullshitting you with their intentions.
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>>218307818
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=plZCp-89bPQ
>Wouldn't it be nice if under there he was a nice jewish boy
>You should only know
>I do you can't hide the hook!
Michael Douglas show was so based
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>>218315292
I've heard KISS songs. They're just really bland and don't do a lot for me.
"Crazy Nights", right? And the one where it's like "we wanna rock and roll all night".
This stuff just gives me cringe. It's what people who don't actually like rock, think rock is.
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KISS was available.
They were touring all the time. Nobody else toured as much as KISS.
It was like a travelling circus with a bazaar where all the kids could buy their gay-ass merch.
Also it was many kids' first big concert experience.
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>>218315582
Funnily enough, Haim Saban once tried to screw over Gene Simmons for some sort of merchandising deal and was talking to his assistant in Hebrew in front of him about it, and only stopped when Gene said "hey, I'm one of you guys" in Hebrew back
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True rockers know what's up.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1k8craCGpgs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TlBIa8z_Mts
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7wRHBLwpASw
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>>218308007
Geddy Lee is such a bad example because he’s actually an extremely talented bass/keyboard player and vocalist and for decades they didn’t get any praise from the media, they survived by having a large amount of male nerd fans who can find what they like even if it’s not promoted on the radio (which is how you know they were good).
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>>218317516
>Why do people like good music
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>>218309177
kek 'butt rock' didnt come from /mu/. just off the top of my head, the characters in Grind (2003) are listening to motley or kiss in the van and one leans forward and pops the tape out saying "i cant listen to any more of this butt rock"
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