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If you can avoid chudding out for an hour and a half this is actually a pretty good movie
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>>218308738
the metaphor reveal-flip at the very end when Barbie realized she was not even a character in her own movie was brilliant
Barbie herself enables the story, which is the important part. it was exactly perfect for the "toy" tie in
>>218308785
>I can just accept that a Barbie movie wasn't made with me in mind and go my whole life never watching it
The Barbie Movie was like The Lego Movie, where you THINK you know what it's about, but really it's about something completely different.
it's ironic that even now, everybody THINKS the Barbie movie was about "muh woman oppression speech" but...
[spoilers!]
it's really about "what do I do with my life?" I won't spoil the answer, but it's in the movie
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>>218308873
>actually use Ken and make it how men are below the women in society and how they deserve better
>all the Barbies become subservient to the Kens
>a couple women decide they need to ruin everything for all women despite how happy they are and make the men be out to be bad guys
Lmao who wrote this shit? It literally made Ken to be an underdog you're rooting for and how all the Barbies are pieces of shit
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>>218308738
>If you can avoid chudding out for an hour and a half this is actually a pretty good movie
its the greatest mens rights film ever made
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“It is literally impossible to be a woman. You are so beautiful, and so smart, and it kills me that you don’t think you’re good enough. Like, we have to always be extraordinary, but somehow we’re always doing it wrong.
You have to be thin, but not too thin. And you can never say you want to be thin. You have to say you want to be healthy, but also you have to be thin. You have to have money, but you can’t ask for money because that’s crass. You have to be a boss, but you can’t be mean. You have to lead, but you can’t squash other people’s ideas. You’re supposed to love being a mother, but don’t talk about your kids all the damn time. You have to be a career woman but also always be looking out for other people.
You have to answer for men’s bad behavior, which is insane, but if you point that out, you’re accused of complaining. You’re supposed to stay pretty for men, but not so pretty that you tempt them too much or that you threaten other women because you’re supposed to be a part of the sisterhood.
But always stand out and always be grateful. But never forget that the system is rigged. So find a way to acknowledge that but also always be grateful.
You have to never get old, never be rude, never show off, never be selfish, never fall down, never fail, never show fear, never get out of line. It’s too hard! It’s too contradictory and nobody gives you a medal or says thank you! And it turns out in fact that not only are you doing everything wrong, but also everything is your fault.
I’m just so tired of watching myself and every single other woman tie herself into knots so that people will like us.”
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>>218308738
Ken was the only reason this movie was good.
Also damn America Ferrera has aged so much. I didn't recognize her until after the movie was over and I looked up the credits. She's developed that voice that all latinas get when they hit 40.
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>>218309324
havin' a good time
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>>218309267
Who knew barbie would hold down barbenheimer?
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the only doll capable of real violence was Allen lol.
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>>218309716
C'mon, live a little!
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the simple act of wiggling my body parts around to a rhythm and bright colors don't really do anything for me and that is this movie's idea of fun. since it does not share the same conception of fun that I do, I do not think it is fun. It's also bog standard as far as technical production and cinematography go, so there's nothing at all in this movie for me.
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I wish we got to see the R rater cut and the ending that was more even handed about both sexes needing each other rather than the glib girl power bullshit we got.
But no, this isn't kino. It's barely amusing slop.great production design though
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>>218312483
It wasn't well written, funny, witty, or engaging. The music was bad too except for the Billie Eilish track and Ice Spice & Nicki Minaj remix of Barbie Girl. Why do you think someone is obligated to like something because of their political leaning?
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>>218312739
>It wasn't well written, funny, witty, or engaging.
objectively it was
https://youtu.be/RIHExGaxfPE?si=4kDZtQpRZqq-RnXX
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>>218308767
It's funny how much Ken stole the show. I think it's also cause Ryan Gosling is charismatic as hell and Margot Robbie has one of the worst filmographies out of any actor but people pretend she's good.
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>>218308767
The thing is they clearly had too many writers trying to make their own personal version of what Barbie's story should be and as a result it's a mishmash of surface level ideas that never digs in any direction.
Ken's plot on the other hand has a pretty clearly defined arc so they were able to build on its themes and actually explore the male characters. I didn't go into this movie wanting to walk away having only liked the Ken parts, but unfortunately that's the only part of the movie with any real direction.
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>>218312019
life partner VS. grift
>>218309288
Leftist brainrot ruins things
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I've actually known a few women who didn't like the movie. They're Barbie fans who liked the costumes but hated that Ken was the """"villain""". The movie seems to alienate actual longtime fans, those types of girls who grew up watching Barbie cartoons, seeing Barbie ride horses, date Ken and stuff. It's kind of like Star Trek fans seeing their IP be co-opted by people who don't really know Star Trek.
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>>218312854
I know why people like Margot Robbie
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>>218312854
>but people remember her ass in suicide squad and nothing else at all about that film
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>>218309288
Seriously all of this can be answered with a "sounds like a you problem".
And women write crap like this without ever realizing that failing to live up to arbitary self-imposed expectations doesn't even lead to a failure state for them.
There is no "now you are a loser and people avoid you" for women like there is for men. It's absurd how they gaslight themselves into believing society treats them harsh, or comparable to how it treats boys and men.
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>>218308738
I couldn't make it 10 minutes through this film and I consider myself pretty open minded.
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>>218308738
It's AGP kino for sure.
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>>218314929
Might try that and give it a second chance.
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>>218308738
I went to see this one two months after release, after the hype died down, to see what the fuss was all about. It was a difficult theater experience, nobody laughed at the "jokes", i nodded off for 20-30 minutes in the middle and didn’t miss much.
All the moments that should have gotten audience reactions fell completely flat. And some ladies were here too.
Everybody left dumb founded on how this grossed more than a billie.
I guess it wasn’t made for me, but it was truly a weird theater experience.
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>>218315199
I don't self insert. The product must cater to me and to my tastes if it wants my attention
Pic unrelated
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based film
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>>218312278
No way, fag.
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>>218312854
>Margot Robbie has one of the worst filmographies out of any actor
Tom Holland is the worst actor working. Margot is hot and went full nude in WoWS, which gave the golden key to work on anything she wants.
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>>218309288
>It is literally impossible to be a woman.
If even men can do it, so can you
>we have to always be extraordinary
Says who?
>You have to be thin, but not too thin.
Yes, being thin but not too thin is healthy
>And you can never say you want to be thin.
You have my permission to say you want to be thin. In fact I welcome it
>You have to say you want to be healthy
Says who?
>You have to have money
You have my permission to be poor. In fact it's better that way
>but you can’t ask for money because that’s crass
Yeah, don't go begging on the streets
>You have to be a boss
No, you don't
>but you can’t be mean
Yes, don't be mean
>You have to lead
No, you don't
>but you can’t squash other people’s ideas
You have my permission to squash retarded ideas, like feminism
>You’re supposed to love being a mother
Yes, that's true
>but don’t talk about your kids all the damn time
You have my permission to talk about your kids all the time
>You have to be a career woman
No, you don't
>but also always be looking out for other people
That's what decent women do, yes
>You have to answer for men’s bad behavior
Says who?
>You’re supposed to stay pretty for men
Yes, that would be nice
>but not so pretty that you tempt them too much
Is it so hard to dress appropriately for a given occasion?
>or that you threaten other women because you’re supposed to be a part of the sisterhood
lol
>But always stand out
No
>and always be grateful
Yeah, that wouldn't hurt
>But never forget that the system is rigged
Yeah, rigged in your favor
>You have to never get old
I don't ask for the impossible
>never be rude
You have my permission to be rude when it's called for
>never show off
You have my permission to show off when you earned it
>never be selfish
Show me an unselfish woman and I'll show you a square with no edges
>never fall down, never fail
Again, not asking for the impossible
>never show fear
No
>never get out of line
Yeah, would be nice, but see above
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I like how in the first act Barbie has a problem that both men and women can relate to, and the solution to that problem is to shit all over men.
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>>218308738
The assertion that the "real world" in 2023 was overwhelmingly sexist and male-centric made me turn it off. Maybe I'll go back and finish it some day, but the constant reminding the audience that women suffer and deserve to be rewarded just for existing makes it hard.
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>>218309288
>we have to always be extraordinary
no you dont, but men also suffer from great expectations. you arent special
>You have to be thin, but not too thin.
just be healthy.
>And you can never say you want to be thin.
vain people suck, and whining about body goals but doing nothing to achieve them is even worse.
>You have to say you want to be healthy, but also you have to be thin.
there is no contradiction here.
>You have to have money
you "dont" because there are plenty of poors. but you're fucking stupid if you dont want money
>but you can’t ask for money because that’s crass
asking for handouts is retarded. earn it.
>You have to be a boss
no you dont
>but you can’t be mean
nobody should be mean. nobody likes an asshole.
>You have to lead
no you dont
>but you can’t squash other people’s ideas
why not? some ideas suck. just dont be a dick about it.
>You’re supposed to love being a mother
kids are a choice, but if you choose it, yeah, you should be passionate about it.
>but don’t talk about your kids all the damn time
correct, its obnoxious. that goes for dads too.
>You have to be a career woman but also always be looking out for other people.
not mutually exclusive.
>You have to answer for men’s bad behavior
no you dont.
>but if you point that out, you’re accused of complaining
anyone trying to say that can be ignored. problem solved.
>You’re supposed to stay pretty for men
everyone wants to be attractive. you're not special
>but not so pretty that you tempt them too much
you arent responsible for their lack of control.
>or that you threaten other women because you’re supposed to be a part of the sisterhood
lmao actual schizo shit. any woman feeling "threatened" needs to own her own insecurities. thats not on you. fuck performative sisterhood if it fosters such malignance.
>But always stand out
no, you can blend in if you want.
>always be grateful
yes. this is basic manners.
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>But never forget that the system is rigged
lol sure. maybe just earn it instead of playing the victim of imaginary slights like you've been rambling about.
>You have to never get old
says who? get over your insecurity and stop listening to retarded chuds that equate age to worth. its not hard.
>never be rude
correct. once again, basic manners.
>never show off
nothing wrong with excellence and incidentally standing out, but we all know that there is a difference between that and "showing off". dont be a show off.
>never be selfish
you have to take care of yourself, but again, basic manners includes consideration for others.
>never fall down, never fail, never show fear, never get out of line
again, says who? these are normal parts of life. this is just spoken from a place of fear and insecurity with one's self.
>It’s too hard!
life IS hard, but men and women have been doing it for tens of thousands of years. grow up.
>It’s too contradictory
its not, you're just retarded. see all of the above.
>nobody gives you a medal or says thank you
why should you get a medal for having basic manners and just not fearing failure? that shit is the bare minimum, not accomplishment.
>And it turns out in fact that not only are you doing everything wrong, but also everything is your fault.
well when you approach it with the mentality that you've displayed so far... yes, that IS how things work. you're fundamentally wrong. be better.
>I’m just so tired of watching myself and every single other woman tie herself into knots so that people will like us
stop trying to appeal to everybody. appeal to yourself, and then to people that matter to you. its not that difficult.
and literally every single aspect of this in regards to conduct applies to men too.
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>>218319882
its funny because you're taking it at their word but missing what they're actually showing you. they want to claim victimhood while literally showing you that its a woman's world. they want to claim victimhood when men decide to do the same shit they do. they want to claim victimhood when they make zero effort to earn anything, and all of their "problems" apply to both men and women. dont just be guided on a leash by their words; see what you're actually looking at.