>>218311033
Why was the sequel so abysmally, laughably bad?

>>218311033
I read white guy review that chow yunfat was doing a Bogart. Turns out to a magical movie where the sum works as well as the whole. Proper male melodrama, cos they all have obligations (which can be idealized cos a lot of families or orgs are dysfunctional or run by scammy sociopaths)

>>218311321
*parts

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>>218311253
dont caare, still watched them

>>218311253
Producer Tsui Hark fucked john woo over and released a butchered, heavily edited version of the movie.
John Woo completely disowned the movie and he stopped talking to Hark for several decades because of it.

Only recently was Woo's original uncut version discovered and released - unfortunately the audio and video quality of it is absolutely atrocious, which is tradition in a lot of hong kong films coz they have absolutely no grasp of the concept of film preservation.

Young and dangerous is more my style.

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>>218311540
For me it's Sexy & Dangerous (1996)

>>218311033
The Korean remake was alright.

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>>218311253
>Bad
It's not good, but it's not bad either. It kind of rides that line of funny-bad schlock.

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as a chink I never understand why they translated it into "a better tomorrow". 英雄本色 literally means true color (本色) of heros (英雄). I guess I'm not marketing major or localization team in cross continent company but lost in translation cannot be spoken less here. or just culture difference.

>>218311253
>Anon doesn't like the rice...

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>>218311033
I watched it a few days ago in my home kinotorium (bedroom). I love it when Chow Yun Fat plays likeable dirtbags rather than slick OC donut steels.

Though on Bullet in the Head (1990) and Full Contact (1992)? I was planning on watching them this week.

>>218313632
Sometimes the purpose of localization is to make the title sound "fitting" to another audience. The real title's translation might sound poetic, but it didn't rhyme with the sensibility of the Western audience toward what is seen as an action film about triads.

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>>218313991
understandable. yet they fucking translated 卧虎藏龙 into crouching dragon hidden tiger, also starring 周润发 many years later. that was a literal translation, word by word, but lost in translation again, since thats a proverb/idiom first and foremost, then the tile of novel it was adapted from. sometime I don't really get it. probably due to reason I stated, and I do agree w/ you, chinks and crackas aint the same.

>>218311033
No, just one theater.

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I normally can't stand John Woo and I think his HK action films are laughably bad and that he's a poor man's Ringo Lam, but I did recently watch pic related and though it was awesome. Maybe Woo did have some talent after all

>>218315609
>Ringo Lam
City on Fire & Prison on Fire are such kino.

I watched 1 and 2 last year and thought they were on par with each other?

How is part 3 btw? I still haven't watched that.

>>218314156
are you really chink? is a singe piece of string enough to completely blind you?

>>218313717
Funniest scene in movie history.

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HK action thread? Watch Men from the Gutter! Ultra 80s neo-noir crime kino!

I had a driver watching stand up show in mandarin. It was weird that I could tell because of the cadence of the voice.

>>218316223
I'll check it out, thanks for the recc

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Damn, Hong Kong filmmaking goes hard.

>>218311033
The pig little brother was really annoying and ruined the film for me
The only thing stopping me from giving this a 10/10

>>218311033
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cYo047rraQw
Goated credits theme

>>218316223
torrent? i have been looking for this for a while.

>>218319646

https://bt4gprx.com/search?q=Men%20from%20the%20Gutter

>>218315658
City On Fire is so damn good. Definitely one of my favorite films. I gotta watch more chink films but there ain't never enough time.

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>>218319646
>Men.from.the.Gutter.1983.1080p.BluRay.FLAC2.0.x264-ZoroSenpai

>80s/90s chinese cinema
>fun, bombastic, cool, sunny
>2010s/2020s chinese cinema
>dreary, cold, cloudy, pathetic, sad
what happened? that elephant movie is four hours of fucking clouds and the director even killed himself after making it

>>218319737
Hong Kong was a free nation.

>>218319737
The best of times is always now. Your favorite filmmakers from the 80s and 90s didn't sit down on usenet and bitch about movies today. They did what they could with the experiences they'd had up to that point. Follow suit or get lost to the void.

>>218319737
Deng died

>>218319737
This is a good documentary that touches the broader filmmaking era of HK, although it's primary subject is the brucesploitation films.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZ4akXBQDd0

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>>218316183
lol I'm actually latinx, gringo.

>>218319737
The CCP. What else?

>>218313632
Localizers are parasites that think they know better, they cant make movies of their own so they made up titles instead

>>218311033
I haven’t been to a theatre since the first Tron remake released.

>>218320105
There has never been a Tron remake. Only sequels.

>>218319705
>31 gb

really?

A Better Tomorrow was my introduction to Hong Kong kino and it is a great movie. Chow Yung Fat is one of the best movie starts ever. This movie unlocked a whole galaxy of movies for me and this film will always hold a special place for me.

ABT2 was bizarre but I'm not going to complain about Chow Yung Fat kino.

Black mask with jet li is an amazing movie.

>>218322363
Yeah ABT2 has a great ending shootout but is overall a lesser film and a weird sequel.

>>218313632
Did he finally dated the waitress ??

>>218311033
I watched this once after buying it and I hate it so much I lied to Amazon so I could return it. I fucking hate this movie and I love Hong Kong films. The family drama and shitty comedy ruins it. The pacing and story wasn't good at all either.

>>218321046
NTA but if you're not downloading remuxes you're not gonna make it.

>>218319737
>what happened?
It was mostly a financial issue.
-chinks stopped going to see their own movies in the early 90s, preferring hollywood movies. Ticket sales plummeted.
-mainland takeover in 1997 fucked up their freedom to create what they wanted to
-SARS epidemic fucked up their industry
-GFC in 2008 fucked it up more
etc

>>218323123
Yeah it's really not great. I don't get why it's so popular when they've done so much better.

>>218323476
*but if people are using it as a gateway to watch more HK movies then i'm all for it.

>>218323387
im a boomer i dont know what anything means i guess ill just pay for a copy of it on the dark net

>>218311253
Both sequels are literally kino of the highest order and you suck cock if you dislike them. The only negative I can say is they're not as kino as the first one.

>>218311033
Fucking right I did! The Killer comes out next month.

Somehow, some way, I totally beefed on seeing Hard Boiled in January.

>>218324308
You can always just order the disc from amazon.

>>218313632
John Woo chose both the English name and the Cantonese name. My guess is he had two names in mind so his first choice was the HK name and his second choice was the International title.

>>218323123
The shitty comedy (which is just Jackie being sloppy) was Woo acknowledging the comedy films he was coming from. This movie basically invents a new genre.

>>218311033
It is odd to me how iconic the shot of CYF lighting a cigarette with a counterfeit US$100 Bill when it feels like the shot was the last added to the movie with how it is treated like an FX shot.

Also, the revenge hit. In the interview at the end of the movie, Woo gives all credit to being inspired by Sam Peckinpah without realizing Taxi Driver has an extremely similar scene and he doesn't even hint at Scorsese being an influence. Is he stupid?

>>218313632
Isn't it named after the song that's the main motif in the movie?