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Mao Ninagawa, the tallest character in Blue Reflection. She won't appear in another game.
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The Blue Reflection games are some of the extremely few videogames /v/ doesn't consider unplayable ____ slop and tell you to put a gun in your mouth for daring to play them, so I'm glad it got fucked by its own publisher.
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And to think that there is a character taller than her. Rena Miyauchi is the tallest girl in the franchise, her height is 172cm.
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I should try greeting people this way.
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What a hyperbolic post, especially the part of ''tell you to put a gun to your mouth for daring to play them''. The term ''___slop'' is overused, like it's been said before, dismiss people who use it or don't take them seriously.
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Even if there theoretically was a sequel, I think it would be best to have a new cast. There are a lot of characters I like, but I feel like their story has been told for the most part, and the series as a whole has a strong focus on partings and the importance of ephemeral things.
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Which to be fair is what the things after the first game did for the most part, most characters in the anime and other games are new.
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Well, have you played the games? If you have then you should know why some people would love the games.
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I wouldn't say they're especially popular here. They just have a small fanbase that cares enough about the series to still try to drum up discussion every now and then. BR1 in particular is flawed, but also unique enough that anyone it appeals to might be pretty passionate about it. The extremely personal character-driven narrative, aesthetics/presentation, and writing that actually follows the principle of "show, don't tell" makes the game stand out. There are surprisingly few magical girl RPGs in general, for that matter, and the others I'm aware of are largely pretty old.
>the combat is ass
The combat mechanics themselves aren't bad, but it can be hard to notice that because the difficulty is so low. Second Light can be pretty fun on the highest difficulty setting, but they made the unfortunate decision to lock that behind clearing the game once.
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For a moment I thought that the thread was going to die. Mao, more or less an antagonist in Blue Reflection but somehow I don't hate her, I like her as a character. No one can deny that she's less popular than other Blue Reflection characters though.
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Im 169cm tall and I love tall women lol. Surprisingly, most women I had success with were around my height or slightly taller/shorter.
Short women hate me and tall bitches (175cm+) think Im cute, but not sexo material
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>>734019189
She's an interesting character, and I kind of like that the "social link" characters in Blue Reflection aren't all just Hinako's bestest buds.
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>I don't like you
>repeatedly hangs out with Hinako after school anyway
>spends a bunch of time helping Hinako and friends with the school play anyway>and gives Hinako her fragment to help fight off the sefirot
She's just tsundere.
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>>734021452
I think it's more that while they have deeply incompatible personalities/values and genuinely don't see eye-to-eye, Mao does respect Hinako once she realizes Hinako's actions and motives are genuine, and is willing to make an effort to cooperate for the greater good.At least that's how it is at first. They arguably develop more of a bond if they spend enough time together, and Mao might just be tsundere at that point.
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*Gust is a group of developers, not a person. Recent news of the team that worked on Dead or Alive Xtreme Venus Vacation are now with Gust, at least some members of that Team are now working at Gust instead of Team Ninja, both Gust and Team Ninja are under Koei Tecmo but maybe another crossover (that doesn't involve Blue Reflection characters) is possible, Marie Rose appeared in Atelier Resleriana: Forgotten Alchemy and the Polar Night Liberator.
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>>734027218
That artist's work is about all I've seen so far as Mao fanart goes. She seems to be one of the less popular characters.
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The concept of Ying and Yang suddenly came to mind, with how Hinako and Mao are like polar opposites and have very different values, but they still want to protect their school and what they love...they work together in the end.
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...It may just be a coincidence unlike other things about the franchise which may have been intentional but Hinako's underwear is partially white and Mao wears black underwear, I admit that it's one of the things that made me think about the concept of Yin and Yang...that said, it's mostly because of the back, the back of Hinako's bra and panties is white but the front is mostly another color/design, Mao's underwear is black regardless if it's the front or back, so, Yin and Yang or ''black and white'' doesn't fully apply in this case...
That said, concept art shows that Hinako originally wore (or was going to wear) simpler whtite underwear (with blue bows) and Mao always wore black underwear, so who knows...
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For some reason now i have an incredible need to be kicked in the balls by her, insulted and spit on.
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>>734031548
I could see her being on board with that.
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>>734031548
Oh, if she really hates you she definitely would do that.
Maybe it was the black underwear and her role as minor antagonist...once you learned those details about her you suddenly felt a need to be kicked, insulted and spit on, because she isn't just ''tall girl who is on the side of the main character''.
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>it was the black underwear
Always a fetish for me i love black underwear on girls but in this scenario it was irrelevant.
>her role as minor antagonist
Its more like i love how she acts but i think she has to "stop" herself on girls because... yeah she interact only with girls. But with a boy? I feel that kick comes basically after the second time she looks at you. With a boy she will basically lose all the breaks and go for it till you fucking die.
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I see.
>>734033327
Unfortunately for you, a lot of Blue Reflection characters are taller than 161cm.
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>>734033985
Thankfully best girl isn't
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Not weeb here.
Explain to me what is this. It's something they wear so i can't peek the cleavage? It's an undershirt?
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Including the flat girls? I guess everyone looks beautiful with the art style of the game, both in 2D and 3D.
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It's just part of her uniform, it's not an undershirt.
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>>734038026
It's been disussed before that the first one is an okay game at best and Blue Reflection: Second Light is a good game (something like a 7.7/10 at most)...it really depends on what you're looking for considering that both games are easy RPGs more or less, but if you like the graphics/art style, music (oh, the music! I love it), emotional story and moments especially in the first game, and the characters...you may like the games. You have to like or at least tolerate some fanservice though, also, both games don't have English voices.
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>>734038026
They are if you're on board with the premise and aesthetics, enjoy games with a strong focus on the characters, and don't consider low difficulty to be a dealbreaker.
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I was playing around with an AI writing tool earlier and seeing if it could portray some Blue Reflection characters convincingly, and was amused when it randomly had Hinako warn someone that Lime could be a bit scary.
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Hinako is 158cm, Mao is 170cm, but Hinako has bigger breasts than Mao, probably.
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>Hinako when Mao tries to talk to her
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>>734045623
Mao could be telling Hinako something important or talking passionately about something, but Hinako's expression may be a sign of indifference at best. One can only imagine the context for that promotional image without dialogue.
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Should I feel bad that these high school girls are as tall as I am?
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>>734047035
No. I will laugh at you for being a tiny little midget, but you shouldn't take it personally.
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>>734045987
I imagine some of those promo images were made before the characters' personalities were fully ironed out. Hinako seems a bit weird in this one.
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>>734050293
I don't think Yuri would appreciate that.
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>>734052223
I imagine just about everyone who gives a shit about Blue Reflection is at least aware of the Arland games. I enjoyed them quite a lot, along with a few other entries, but I don't really care for the direction the series has gone more recently.
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a Blue Reflection
sequel now a fading dream
in the autumn breeze
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Serious talk i am into a bad spiral of depression, i like this artstyle very much but how is the game? Is warm and comfy or is some depressing japanese shit? I am not even in for the lewds or whatever, i just need something warm and happy.
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Like Britta (Food4Dogs) said, if you are depressed or going through something, playing something similar or emotional can help but it depends on the person, Hinako is initially introvert and she should be going through depression at the start of the game...needless to say, it's not exactly a very "warm and comfy" game, it's a relaxing game with amazing characters and story but without saying more, the game can be sad or depressing.
If you want something warm and comfy, an Atelier Game, especially the Arland games (I haven't played them) or the Mysterious games would be better.
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A lot of people had a lot of issues with Fatal Frame: Maiden of Black Water. I can't lie though, the remaster letting you dress the MCs in super-frilly gothic lolita dresses absolves...not all of its sins, but a significant amount of them.
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Suddenly and without warning, Hinako being absolutely fabulous.
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>in another game
There will be no another game. Gust will crank out atelierslop until bankruptcy.
Ar Tonelico / nosurge successor never ever. Mana Khemia never ever. Creativity is dead.
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>170cm
>172cm
I prefer girls taller than me, thank you
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Lol this post. Hinako has a bigger chest than other characters but she isn't the girl with the biggest breasts in the game, these lines (Hinako's thoughts) say or imply that Shihori has bigger breasts than her. There is that official art of Blue Reflection Sun (which may be posted later let's be honest) but for the most part Hinako is above average or has medium breasts.
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Heh, if you wanted that, maybe other characters would be better.
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>>734056582
There's also this optional scene. I included a lot of the dialogue just because.
Remember everyone, at least Shihori and Yuri have a bigger chest than Hinako, maybe more but those two characters are at least confirmed by the game itself.
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Ok now i want to see shiori's breasts exposed like hinako's.
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Well, see for yourself. A shower scene with Shihori doesn't show much but like other characters, even the school swimsuit reveals her cleavage. You can at least gen an idea with this collage, her swimsuit reveals her cleavage and when she's in her undies her cleavage and large breasts can be noticeable.
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I really want to like this game but being able to max out all the relationships and becomes overpowered is stupid
Plus I wish they had a woman write a story, I can't shake the feeling that I'm playing a game about JKs with problems written by someone who doesn't know anything about JKs
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Doing that can make the game even easier, yeah.
That said, I don't agree much with ''written by someone who doesn't know anything about high school students'' consdering that one of the first things the game's story deals with is the fact that Rin is in love with a boy who goes to another school. I don't deny that the sequel may have involved women writers unlike the first game though, when one plays the second game it feels that way but it's not a bad thing, quite the contrary.
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I don't think so considering that she's underage and has parents...that said, Mao's life in showbiz is what made her who she is...
Nothing in the game implies that the characters aren't virgins anymore, but it's true that they are high school students and multiple girls have developed chests.
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>>734070315
It does sort of feel like a time limit or something was planned during development, but never actually implemented. BR2 handled that aspect a bit better.
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>>734067008
There have been Blue Reflection threads of other characters before, Hinako, Yuzu, Lime, Sanae...so why not a Mao thread? It's true that there is less art and images that could be posted of her though...
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She looks mature in this official art.
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>>734074686
If you really, relly want to play it, then play it, pirate the game or buy it if you want to support Koei Tecmo, just keep in mind that the game is not on sale and it hasn't been on sale for a while, Blue Reflection: Second Light is being sold at MSRP right now. I like the game a lot but it has less fan service than the first one and some people may not like that.
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BR2 is a better game in most ways, but it also doesn't quite recapture all of BR1's appeal. I ended up being glad I gave it a chance.
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There's also this official art.
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>>734066240
Modern Atelier is pretty much just Mana Khemia.
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It's a game with an identity crisis. An emotional story, low difficulty, simplified gameplay compared to other RPGs and the beautiful art style could be appealing to a female audience, but then it's a game with more fan service than other games developed by Gust...it's weird. In any case, Blue Reflection (the first one) is not a yuri game.
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These games are otaku bait, same as most mahou shoujo with scantily clad JKs. Second one leans a little more into the yuribait, and it does establish a canon romance, but most know to play Nights of Azure for that. NoA1 is probably the closest this era of Gust got to centering an actual lesbian romance, with NoA2 overloading on yuri pandering.
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Good post.
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It really is a difficult choice. Anyway, this thread now has 150+ posts!
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Kei is so hot... why couldnt she be one of the magical team and have a beautiful frilly dress? This is so unfair.
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Probably almost all of them in BR1. In BR2, though, almost every character seems receptive if Ao is flirtatious with them.
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Gotta love JK Pochaco.
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>can't double dip on both girls in AT2
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BRING BACK THE GUST GENERAL
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>Both girls
You're right not to consider Luca an actual option.
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The last attempt at a thread there ended up being about 90% bump posts, and there haven't been any announcements or anything since then to help drum up discussion.
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Its prospects don't look great right now. Gust seems to be increasingly focused on just Atelier, some significant staff members who worked on Blue Reflection aren't there anymore, and the failure of the gacha might make Gust's higherups and KT hesitant to greenlight a new entry even if the actual games were modestly successful.
Some people at Gust at least claim to still be interested in the series, though, and franchises in worse shape have come back from the dead before, so you never know.
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10,000 hours in Paint
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Yuki is the tallest now.
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Supposedly Ao ''has bigger tits than Hinako'' but I'm not sure if that's true...
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Perhaps close enough to romantically kill themselves together.
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Like the first game, the word ''suicide'' is controversial and it's filtered on a few sites, or may result in a post being deleted depending on the site or whatever, and yet, like in the first Blue Refleciton, it's right there in the text, text in a game rated T for Teen.
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She's a pretty terrible person, but I like her as a character. It's also hard to not at least feel a little sympathy for her given her horrible past. She has good reason to be intensely bitter and paranoid.
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BR2 has a pretty decent one, though it's a shame that it's gimped in some ways. Characters disappearing if the camera gets too close sucks.
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Kirara might would welcome that particular disaster.
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Can't be helped, gustge is a niche of a niche of a niche
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I need to have sex with this girl.
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How could you just go and destroy someone's delusional narrative like that?
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>Kei
I would litterally marry and impregnate kei repeatetly so.... yes.
For the others, groping flatties is extremely fun because they don't get groped so much and they don't expect it. It's good for them and their self esteem.
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You must really like them...silky smooth who knows because we can't touch them but that may be case considering how they look. They even appaear in the trailer for the PS Vita version, that video was uploaded almost 9 years ago.
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>PS Vita
I love that little guy but come on now.
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The graphics of the PS4 version look much better obviously...for PS Vita standards, the PS Vita version has graphics that are 7/10 at best, it looks nice but there are PS Vita games that look better.
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I'm not sure if the multiple bows are present in the PS Vita version...in any case, everything looks better in the PS4 version.
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Vita games could look great, see Freedom Wars, Tearaway, Killzone Mercenary. Gust games were...well, it was impressive that they could port their PS3 era stuff on it. I do think Vita also got the Nights of Azure games though? I can't imagine those ran too well on it.
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I know, I've played a lot of PS Vita games, Tearaway, Hot Shots Golf: World Invitational and Hatsune Miku: Project Diva X have beautiful graphics and they look really nice to this day, they are games that show what the PS Vita is capable of when it comes to graphics. Games developed by Gust for PS Vita however, those games have increasingly worse graphics, Atelier Sophie looks better than Atelier Firis which also looks a little better than Atelier Lydie & Suelle for example...
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Chihiro's panties don't have a ribbon in the PS Vita version.
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The true final boss of Blue Reflection approaches.He objectively saved the anime.
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More tummy.
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If it's not a leotard, she's wearing panties, but who knows.
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>>734144619
Yuki is one of my favorite characters in the series.
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Ao suspects she's already heavier than a gigantic boulder, and you want her to eat more?
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>I bet Kokoro would start eating the demons if no one was watching.
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MEATY
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MILKERS
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Lol! A SpongeBob reference, nice! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pRDY6lmvAF4
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>>734147167
I still think the reflection gives her a boobjob. At least a size. She has big milkers, sure, but those are enormous.
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She is so ADORABLE!
If you don't fall in love with her you are not human.
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>>734147945
It's just that official art (with a sweaty Hinako), really. As a reflector her chest looks the same for the most part, both in 2D and 3D, this is official art for the first game, it looks more like >>734147269 when it comes to her breasts.
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It's a bonus even at that size, her frilly reflector panties are that perfect mix of cute and sexy
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>Ao suspects she's already heavier than a gigantic boulder, and you want her to eat more?
I mean
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Oh yeah, i want her to be stuffed.
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>perfect mix of cute and sexy
I think this can describe the panties she wears in the real world, or her other underwear in general.
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>>734150664
That's our Yuki for you!
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You mean this image I suppose (>>734153345). Yeah, panties with bows are common.
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>>734155141
When a Blue Reflection thread survives, it lasts longer than other threads and for the people who know of the games and have even played, it seems that most people like most characters, only Mao and Shihori may have a few people who say ''I don't like her'' but for the most part, people (including me) like these characters and in a lot of art they are happy and smiling, they really bring happiness and joy.
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Big meaty milkers in 3D...lol.
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Hinako's game!
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I like it!
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A bra of Shihori's cup size or Yuri's perhaps.
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>>734160507
No, there isn't official art of those characters taking a bath and only Hinako is shown in a bathub in the first game, the rest of the cast appears in the showers of the school. There's this official art of the ''other Yuki'', or Yukiko Takaoka, at least, but I know it's not the same thing, objectively speaking it's clearly a different scene, bathub and shower stall aren't the same thing.
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Sarasa wears the cutest bra, not counting Yuzu...I think.
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You mean Sarasa's bra. Honestly it's difficult for me to imagine Hinako wearing that bra, I guess Sarasa's has a feminine side or ''cute'' tastes and her bra may look weird on Hinako...maybe? I guess it depends on who you ask. And yeah, her bra is yellow with pink edges and it has a pattern or print that can be described as cute.
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Kokoro seems more easily exasperated by Horny Ao than any of the other characters are.
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Yuki is 145cm.
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Does that make her the shortest character in the series?
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Damn, she's tiny.
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>>734176627
It's hard to say without knowing anything about your preferences. It's a game with niche appeal and some significant flaws, but there's also a reason people still give a shit about it.
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Surely Yuki would never be disloyal.
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>>734176556
Lime is taller by one centimeter and she's also one of the shortest characters, so yeah, Yuki is tiny.
>>734176627
If you mean the first game, the short answer is: An easy and simplified turn-based RPG that takes place in an all-girls school (Hoshinomiya Girls' High School), with beautiful graphics, a fantastic soundtrack, an emotional story and some fanservice. The main character, Hinako, is disabled in one way or another.
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Heh...I guess it can be a moral dilemma...
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>>734176949
It didn't seem like a fan servicey thing. That's fine though.
I was just asking a while ago for actually good magical girl games and it was the only real suggestion. Then I saw that my queen ValkyrieAurora had made a video of it years ago and I wanted to play it before watching it.
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Her Blue Reflection review was the most viewed review of that game on YouTube...it sucks that she deleted everything but having watched a little of one or two videos about her, she was not perfect...nobody is perfect.
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>actually good magical girl games and it was the only real suggestion
Yeah, there's really not much else out there for some reason. If you go all the way back to 4th gen consoles there's some decent licensed ones, but it seems like the genre largely died off in videogames after that.
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>>734177947
>videos about things you shouldn't like about a girl who talks about videogames
Let me guess, she was vocal once about not liking rightoids?
How hot/cold am I?
I struggle to think of anything that a minor eceleb with 3 or 4 popular videos ever and who streamed maybe like a dozen times before disappearing from the internet could do that would make it worth making drama videos about her.
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I remember things like "she hates men", "her politics started to be evident in her videos", "she started to criticize fanservice" and who knows what else. There could be more and it may be a bit inaccurate but those are some things I remember, I haven't finished watching that video. Really, her biggest sin is that she deleted everything after making her videos public again because they were prívate for a while...I mean, come on...
In any case, this is a Blue Reflection thread.
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