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ugly toes.
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Dead fucking series
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She is really strong, but is it better to invest in camilla or corrin as your juggernaut?
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>>734043731
Just use both? It's like asking if you should be using Melady or Perceval.
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>>734043559
THEN SHOW ME THE BODY
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Threads keep getting saged?
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>>734043334
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Fire Emblem
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I love Velouria!
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>>734043290
for me, it's alear and hortensia
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MIchaela wore it better
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>>734043290
She raped her little brother.
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>>734043290
I love Hinoka.
greetings from Tabasco, Mexico.
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>>734043559
and this killed it
>>734048038
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cry about it
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>>734043334
True, dropped.
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>>734043334
thoughts on the divine one's toes?
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>>734048536
Cute
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Nino.
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which FE girl has the fattest tits
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>>734052036
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>>734043290
reddit girl
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sommie actually did it... he actually did it!!!
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>>734043290
Best mama and sister
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>>>/vg/
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Nowi sex
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>>734054058
see >>734054052
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>>734054058
Impregnate
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>>734054076
Oh shit it's the thread police.
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>>734054102
your kinds arent welcome here.
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>>734054112
You can't make me leave. /vg/ is shit.
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Cute wife.
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>>734053229
>maternal feminine hetero male gaze girl
>reddit organized a rally to try to stop Camilla from winning CYL.
she is the opposite of reddit
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>>734054212
>feg is so toxic that feh trannies needs to go to vfeg crawling
stfu feh tranny go back
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>>734054263
I don't play FEH
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>>734047906
HOLY FUARKING BASED
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>>734054212
right, because this is any better
>utterly pointless thread, just post a character and type "sex", contributing nothing
just like /vg/
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>>734054308
Imageboard, retard.
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I like the older characters much more than the newer ones
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>>734054253
keep telling yourself that redditor
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>>734054553
Leddit loving Edelgard is always super funny because Edelgard basically excuses fascism if it's her family doing it. She never tries to get any justice for the people that suffered her father's tyranny and even pardons him.
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>>734053229
>t.
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>>734054714
It's almost like they have no self-awareness
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>>734043334
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>>734054764
>this redditor thinks camilla isn't the reddit character because of 1 random fag
Oh god you fags are all retarded
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>>734055379
>ermm it's just one!
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Battle panties!
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all Fateswakengage characters are reddit incarnate
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>>734055609
3hrt character
ftfy
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>REDDIT REDDIT REDDIT REDDIT
any faggot who mentions reddit in any context or cares enough about reddit's opinion to bring it up in conversation, even just to shit on it, is a faggot redditor who needs to kill themself immediately, and yes the irony is not lost on me
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>>734055645
Why is she like this
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>>734043334
fpbp
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>>734043334
>>734056807
Between this and Corrin having two left feet, what is it with FE artists and being incapable of drawing feet?
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FE is ass
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>>>/e/
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>>734045435
Needs to be swapped around. If right was male it would be correct though.
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>>734052114
>Incest Emblem 2023
>still weren't permitted mommy sex
Fortune's Weave
Trust the plan.
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>>734054102
Your kinds are welcome here
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>>734054498
I like them all cept for christmas cavs
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>>734043290
i prefer her sister
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>>734060486
>nigga weave
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>>734060989
I think her hair looks funny
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>>734061513
shame we never got an alt with her hair down
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dogshit thread
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Camilla's hot massive hair__
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>>734043290
incest breeding with camilla
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>>734061241
>people have... le skin colors??
It's 2026, you're not funny
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>>734047906
>Cute tomboy
>Only Hoshidian royal that actually behaves like a proper sibling
She's based
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>>734053229
Redditors despises Camilla, what are you talking about? From the start, they were seething about how "problematic" she is, trying to cover her up and trying to silence anyone who does like her (which, turns out, is a lot of people).
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>>734062607
>shit skin color
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>>734062607
If your main character looks like shit its a sign the game is shit.
This has been true for every fire emblem so far.
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>>734061949
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>>734047906
>latinx and BASED?
What are the odds, Hinoka is best girl and i wish she got more love
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>>734063754
>Hinoka
>Latinx
I know this is bait, but I wish to understand the logic behind it.
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>>734045435
Didn't Dimitri collapse sobbing and talk about how he murdered children? I don't think those were a threat to him...
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How would a hug from Camilla feel like?
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So many of the replies to this thread are telling of how much fucking retarded gaslighting /v/ goes through on a daily basis. No she's not the reddit girl. Reddit is like 90% faggot trannies, and trannies hate any fictional woman remotely attractive because it reminds them of what they could never be. Which is also why "liking good-looking female characters = tranny" is also another retarded cope. Like nigga most of the good-looking female characters are gone BECAUSE of tranny activism.
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I got rutger to lvl 13 after grinding a bit in the arena. Should I promote or wait until later?
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>>734064138
Truth nuke
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>troons thinking camilla is the reddit girl
if thats true, then what is this then???
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>>734065332
promote
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>>734066278
is this what Fe dignity looks like? LOL
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>>734063849
so tight it would break your spine
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>>734065332
I wait until he hits 20 spd before promoting.
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>>734066278
oh no camilla, reddits trans character
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>>734043290
best sisterwife
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ohhh shes on to edelchud secret
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that is not goldmary
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>>734056080
Caeda is very versatile in recruiting people to Marth's army.
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>>734043290
>tfw stuck waiting for the Book 7 TT+, so that Gullveig gets uncursed
Until then, she's still pretty despite her cheeto fingers.
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>>734063834
those children were web forum edelgard simps
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>>734063849
So soft it's like you're sinking into memory foam
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>>734043290
She looks very tall. Is she very tall?
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Extremely stealthy ninja
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>>734071260
Don't think her official measurements have ever been released but she's estimated to be around 183 cm/6' 0"
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>>734071747
not meant to be stealthy, but distracting and provocative
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ninjalear when?
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Would you take a princess to McAnna?
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>>734054519
>I bet Epstein paid you to say that!
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>>734063828
Anon-kun, he's not saying that Hinoka is latinx. He's pointing out that the anon he's responding to is latinx. Because he says he's from Mexico.
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>>734043290
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>>734064138
I think the logic is that Popular = Reddit. Camilla is popular so Camilla = Reddit
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>>734073682
Ah, I was the retard all along. My bad
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Tranny girl
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>>734071260
>>734071776
There's a scale figure that, when the heels are removed, comes out at like 6'0", yeah.
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>>734043559
They just need to learn from DoA and make a softcore porn dating sim
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>>734075481
kys
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>>734043290
>>734055006
>>734055165
>>734061949
>>734072659
We need more Cumilla alts
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>>734072804
She's very spammed in FEH, but I'd be okay with this one.
Especially if it's Fell Alear.
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Cutesythea
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>>734075607
It's been almost a year since her last one, so hopefully she's finally on the Bride or Fallen banner this year. She was already on Spring and Young, after all.
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>>734075607
How many more?
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>>734075890
Not him, but she NEEDS
>Bridal
>Fallen
>Teatime
>Halloween
Soiree is sadly gone, but I'd love for them to bring it back for her like they brought back Teatime last year.
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>>734075890
>backpacking Cumilla twice
Unforgivable
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>>734075995
I have bad news about this June...
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>>734075890
Summer > Spring > Ninja > Legendary > Dream > Pirate > New Year > Winter > loli > Resplendent > normal > CYL > Hotsprings
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>>734076207
>Ninja not at the top
Genuinely up there for one of the best arts in the game.
Wish they brought Sencha back for someone other than Heidrun. Nobody really liked her, so Sencha's art was wasted on her.
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>>734076146
tummy...
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>>734075954
I have no idea how they've gone this long without a bridal Camilla.
Dancer Camilla would also be nice
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>>734076435
>I have no idea how they've gone this long without a bridal Camilla.
Every Bridal banner after like the second one was pure retardation. They clearly just don't understand why people liked the first two.
Every one since then has been canon-couple shit and tertiary characters. All people really want are the most popular characters looking beautiful and saying "I love you." But IS refuses.
You can tell they don't know, because they made a Bridal for Fjorm after Book 2 ended, but didn't make one for Seidr or Gullveig after Book 7 ended. Instead, they went with Embla from two books ago. Anyone with a brain would have told you to make a Bridal Gullveig.
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>>734076558
Retard
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Why are shitty Heroes threads the only ones that get left up
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>>734076558
Genius
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>>734043290
Are we ever going to get a FE with white people again or is it just vtubers and brownoids from now on?
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>>734076558
whoa Sakamichan is still alive?
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>>734076601
>>734076651
Thank you.

>>734076701
>still
That Pixiv image is so old, it starts with a 6. Without checking, I'd estimate it's from 2017.
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>>734043290
Camilla is a miracle of the universe!
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>>734076301
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>>734077215
Indeed.
Can she even be reclassed to a ninja in Revelation?
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fire emblem
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>>734077484
Why wouldn't she be? Anyone can be reclassed to anything in Rev.
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cursed
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>>734076676
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>>734073692
What does her milk taste like?
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I don't like how the newer Cumilla alts have her covered up.
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>>734077484
Reclass Ryoma into a ninja with Saizo A+ and Friendship Seal, then marry Camilla/Ryoma and use Partner Seal
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>>734080052
This was the second-to-last Camilla.
And the winter backpack also had her tits out.
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>>734080517
Too much clothes for Cumilla
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>>734080374
Alternatively, you could just make ninja Corrin's alternate class then marry Camilla yourself
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>>734076050
la creatura...
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Gameplay?
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>>734080630
How about Camilla made of jello?
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Big sister paizuri
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I wish Camilla was my big sister.
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>>734080630
is this good enough for you?
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>>734081151
>has kids in her solo ending, but they're all adopted
Baffled they didn't have her marry a faceless guy or something. So now she's technically not a "canon milf." Wish she was.
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>>734081184
I wish Cowmilla was my mom
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>>734081190
Yes, all that is left is a part of me inside of Cumilla
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What different things would a Camilla barbie say if you pressed it?
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>>734063834
No?

You might be confusing him with notorious school shooter Edelgard von Hresvelg.
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>>734077484
You can reclass her to ninja in CQ already thanks to Suzukaze
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>>734081468
>ara ara
>you're so cute!
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>>734063834
Those were Adrestian children so they didn't really matter anyways
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Marriage with Marianne!
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What did you get Tiki for her birthday?
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>>734081468
>Come give big sister a hug dearie~
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>Camilla, when she sees the big Dwagon
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>>734081287
would she adopt me?
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>>734081287
does she need a faceless guy for that? she already fucks at least 20 dudes through supports
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>>734081287
I'd say it's to make her more Corrinsexual but she can marry other guys so who knows.
Doesn't she stalk Corrin for the rest of ehr life in her JP unpaired ending?
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>>734082907
Hilda kek...
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>>734083046
>I'd say it's to make her more Corrinsexual
I wish she was. Then I could just play Femui and marry Camilla. Instead, I have to suffer through Mamui to do that.
IS only did that later with Rhea, Ivy, and Seidr.
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>>734081770
>>734082293
And where would the button be to make her speak?
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>>734083503
Still mad they didn't make her playable
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>>734084035
Hopes at least fixed that, but it sucks she wasn't a surprise unit during the finale of Azure Gleam.
Like the second half of the map opens where Rhea is, and the game goes "You can now swap to Rhea."
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>>734083838
her chest, of course
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>>734055562
>>734055821
>quietly posts Nyx
>Leaves

Come on man, don't leave us hanging.
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>>734083503
I'm glad she is straight, it makes redditors even more angry
>B-But she flirts with FCorrin
It's just bait
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>>734083503
No one cares about your tranny fantasies
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Would Camilla be a top or a bottom?
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>>734083838
Obviously on her soft belly_
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>>734084915
Twitter freaks aren’t real people.
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>>734084035
cry about it 3hrt :)
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>>734085007
Apparently you do, since you replied.
You also saw a post about wanting to see a girl kiss a woman, and thought that somehow meant I wanted to cut my penis off.
So I'd say you care even more than I do.
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>>734078108
>>734078108
I am not gay but lobster man is my husbando
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>>734085140
Depends on who she's with
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>>734085140
>anyone except Corrin
Top
>Corrin
Whatever Corrin wants
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>>734081962
I put a baby into her tummy, does that count as a birthday present?
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Celine's tea...
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>>734078108
Only his face makes it cursed.
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>>734081287
>Camilla solo ending where she adopts 11 kids
That was the localization trolling once again.
This is the original solo ending:
マークスの即位を見届けた後、暗夜王国の王族から籍を外す。以降は各地に伝承を残すが、その足跡から察するに、どうやらカムイのことを陰ながら見守る人生を歩んだらしい。
After ensuring Marx’s enthronement, she removed her status as a royal of the Nohr Kingdom. Thereafter she left behind legends in every land and, guessing from her tracks, she walked on as someone who somehow watched over Kamui secretly.
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>>734086190
>ninja Camilla is canon
That, or she reclassed to Assassin like Beruka.
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Camilla's true love is Silas
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noire changes to worst class ever, asked to leave the army
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>>734087142
Needs wider hips. Put a kid or two in her to fix that.
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This is my Marty. There are many like him, but this one is mine.
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>>734089341
Thracia players think they're so quirky for doing the exact same thing as everyone who has ever played the game
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but it's ok when you use the heart seal on mozu for the 100th time right
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>>734089341
I made Callion my pet project instead.
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I think I'm near the end of echoes but is it normal for everyone to be at super low level? I think my highest level is only like level 8. am I supposed to grind in one of the dungeons before advancing?
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>>734083503
>Femui
>>734086190
>Marx
>Kamui
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>>734043290
I've never felt big tits in my life.
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I wouldn't consider Marty or Mozu to be hard to use. You just get them to both level 10. For Marty he can instant promote to fix his speed/skill and use scrolls for the rest of the game. Mozu just wants the heart seal and then level 10 + steel bows with Quick Draw for one shotting/orkoing.
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>>734089490
Yeah, a huge portion of thracia players use marty and think that makes them quirky and progressive or something
>>734089807
This, on the other hand, is a totally different phenomenon; players simply like using callion
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Camilla should fight pantyless
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>>734089741
Better that than the Wyvern Elise meme
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>>734091085
Maybe wary fighter generals are more your speed, anon
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>>734087159
>Treehouse removed her watching over Corrin from a distance
>made Camilla once like Silas
>gave her an utterly terrible voice
Man i hate the localization so much
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For me it's Shamir
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Didn't know whether to post Race Queen Camilla or Bimbo Camilla, so you get Race Queen because it was earlier in the folder.
Camilla showed up again in Warriors, Heroes, and Engage. Do you think IS will use her again in the future?
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>>734071260
>>734071776
>>734075354
My dude it's a japanese game. "Very tall" for a woman means 5'7 at most.
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>>734089490
>>734090530
I just think Marty has the same sort of appeal as Gonzales as a unit. He's a dull, ugly bandit type. He does require much more babying to get going, though.
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>>734088175
>>734083503
>>734081287
>PLEASE TALK ABOUT SEIDR I'M BEGGING YOU
This is just sad, dude
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>>734092356
Fuck off
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>>734092973
puffy vulva
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>>734093736
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Why does the taco go crazy when he sees Gullveig or Seidr?
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>>734092832
she's supposed to be european
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Why is she like this?
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>>734094115
Because she won CYL when his ex-waifu didn't.
It's that simple.
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>>734094115
They're the kind of girls he obsesses over but he can't like them because they lust after the FEH self-insert, which he refuses to self-insert as because he claims blank-slate self-inserts are dumb and he self-inserts as Alphonse instead
Yes, it really is that stupid
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>>734094778
>high-cut competition swimsuit Camilla
Nice.
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>>734094778
>and he self-inserts as Alphonse instead
Huh?

>>734094603
I just find it funny when you're desperate to shove her into any conversation you think you can
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>>734095830
Gullveig won
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>>734095932
...the scat bitch award
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hmmm....sounds like nam
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>>734095830
I just find your existence funny
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Weird that Cumilla doesn't have 2D videos
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>>734092837
Maybe, but many people use Gonzales because they like him as a gameplay unit. I wouldn't be surprised if there's more crossover with Carrion fans than with Marty fans.
Marty fans are the same type of people who use Vyland.
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>Open Youtube, see egg is playing FE6
>Alan and Lugh already dead in ch 6
>He's dumping experience into Lot and Wolt
I so hope this idiot loses
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>>734096530
This might be controversial, but I don't actually think Marty sucks as a playable unit. He serves a pretty good niche early game as a wall who can capture. Not the most fun kind of unit to use, but I think it's relatively easy to have him passively earn XP and be close to promotion by the type he rejoins, where his promo bonuses will shore up his weaknesses.
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>>734090001
please respond. also what items should I send from celica to alm in chapter 4. I was going to send 2 dragon scales but I can't find the other one on alm's route so maybe it's pointless. is there anything else useful?
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>>734097872
We hate echoes here nigga
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>>734097176
Camilla is a good Catholic girl
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>>734045435
What sort of fantasy land do you live in where Camilla is more universally loved than Dimitri?
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>>734098146
Was that person who wrote that by anychance a Lucinafag?
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>>734097450
I feel like his extra hp and def don't make a significant difference compared to Halvan. And Halvan isn't even good but at least he can double stuff
>passively earn XP
If you don't purposely feed him exp he won't be anywhere near promotion
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>>734098146
>egoraptor fan
>shit taste
Name a more iconic duo.
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There's a severe lack of 1 piece or leotard Camilla.
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>>734098542
Probably because she has multiple canon bikini designs.
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If/when we EOS, what are the odds that they let us keep the story mode and Aether Resort?

They're not just going to leave us with no way to ever see our Camillas again right?
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I don't care about Heroes.
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>>734098908
I assume they'll cobble together a Offline Version for $20, for one last burst of revenue.
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RE9 looks incredibly mid. I will only play the remakes from now on.
t. Sommie Somniel
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gacha garbage is not fire emblem
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>How to Draw Anime/Manga Style: For Beginners!
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>>734099030
>He doesn't care about the only FE game that lets literally (You) S+ Camilla and up to four other FE wives of your choosing
>He doesn't want to embark on a Hero's Journey with Camilla and share a tent with her every night
Kek.
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>>734099498
I can whack off to Camilla fanart for free just fine.
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>>734099498
Correct
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>The hottest girl is (You)
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>>734101320
Indeed.
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Why do people keep spreading this meme of enemies in PoR having actual resistance stats when the problem is that Tome might is low?
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gacha garbage is fire emblem
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Lissa
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>>734102616
Shit
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>>734102616
Piss
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>>734102616
Cum
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>>734102616
>canonically got pregnant during Awakening
What did Nintendo mean by this?
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>>734048038
I think this is the first time i have seen a character design kill a series. I don't blame people for it tho i wouldn't want a game box with that thing on it either
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Why didn't Chrom fugg Lissa
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>>734103597
Because he found this laying on the side of the road.
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>>734098457
I admittedly play pretty defensively, so that factors into things, but I didn't spend time deliberately feeding him and he got to about level 8, give or take, before the Manster arc.
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>>734101930
because its true just look at enemy stats compared to other games
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>>734103812
For me Marty was level 1 and Othin was level 5 at the end of chapter 3
And it's not as easy to level Marty because he can't double and can't hit anything
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>>734090530
>players simply like using callion
Probably because he has a few neat little quirks
>mounted unit with a vigor star
>fcm of 4
>can actually use two weapon types, and can actually train sword rank when mounted so he doesn't suffer a much from dismounting
>above average growths, which can be compounded with scrolls
>paragon sword is a nice nudge in his direction, the other units who can use it by now have probably been trained already
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>>734098146
reddit is proof that bullying actually doesn't do anything because I know for a goddamn fact that this guy got swirlied growing up and he still decides to write like this.
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>>734102616
dont really like Lissa as a wife because she just acts like an immature retard and never changes from being a shithead
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>>734103083
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>>734099310
It's Wada again (the GBA portrait artist). Proof that art direction is everything and taste trumps technique. It's not like she got worse from Sacred Stones to PoR, it's PoR that is just ugly as sin.
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>>734099310
funny, when I said this im a schitzo autist
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>>734105756
He also gets support bonuses from both Leif and Selphina, very useful when combined with pursuit bonus
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>>734102616
Great choice
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>>734099310
>Drawing anime/manga style with dignity
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>>734107087
I wonder if she made it...
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Heart Seal Mozu is THE meta you retards
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Crazy women deserve love too!
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>>734108890
No, it was always a forced fucking meme. Mozufags are just so goddamn annoying and persistent that they forced everyone to admit it's not an Amelia-tier catastrophe of an investment, but it's still better to focus on a magic unit instead or almost anyone else, really.
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>>734108694
It's ok anyways, spacesuits like that have built-in "waste management systems".
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>>734109508
She should have go in her spacesuit from the beginning then!
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Imagine how little anyone would care about Mozu if she was a guy
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>>734110729
Donnel was pretty highly praised as a unit, but also similarly not husbando'd much, like how nobody waifus Mozu.
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>>734110771
Nobody really argues Donnel is "meta" in 2026, though. For some reason Mozufags have made it their identity for a decade that Mozu is a top-shelf unit, rather than merely usable and niche.
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>>734054212
>/vg/ is shit.
I wonder why
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Its over
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>+29 damage is bad because I'm too stupid for skill routing
>bows are bad in conquest because I only played the GBA/tellius games where they decided to give archers horrible stat lines double effectiveness or both
>She's not Camilla/Corrin/Xander/Azura so she's bench material
Anti mozu cope is funny. Bedsides you can train her as a villager, she's perfectly fine with a bit of babysitting. She isn't required to eat a heart seal, just give her a javelin when she gets D lances and promote her to merchant.
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She's not even Effie tier, you giant idiot. This is why I smack you in the mouth every time you act up. You can't just admit your scrimblo is a scrimblo, if everyone doesn't agree she's half a step behind Xander and Camilla and the stealth savior of Conquest, you piss and shit your diaper.
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What is the "meta" for a conquest lunatic ironman with no bonus content?
What corrin build?
Which units do you train?
Who do you pair for paralogues?
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>>734114707
So true, Wyvern Elise is a scrimblo build that requires way too much investment for a unit that will still run into issues when she eventually reaches her so-called ideal state.
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>>734114876
tanky magic class, or otherwise something with strong 1-2 range and bulk
whoever you want, it's Fates
whoever you want, it's Fates
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>>734101320
Now post her in game
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>>734116153
cum
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>>734114876
Mozu
Mozu
Mozu
Mozu
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>>734116412
Yes
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still trying this with save states. i really don't want to restart the playthrough but thinking back i can train in 2-2 and 3-p, which would both help here.
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griffin outfit is kinda cute
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Me when I’m bored so I send my stupid chud daughter to fight to the death for entertainment
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>>734062607
We all know FW went full blacked because Engage failed to appeal to normies so they went with the most normie shit ever: woke shit.
So FW will not have le icky shit like loli dragons or incest.
Will be the safest shit ever.
Thats probably why they copied Octopath homework and made temu Tatloch and Primrose.
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>>734116747
look at this level i probably have to throw away.
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Octotroons have only played one game
Reminds me of Personatrans thinking the series invented jazz
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>>734117000
You expect racist retard culture warriors on 4channel to know about Orientalism in art history? Forget one game, that guy's only ever read one book (The Very Hungry Caterpillar).
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>>734116938
use mist and soren bond supports to make Ike/titania crit/adept all the generals away on turn 1. this might be the run.
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She remains the best even after all these years
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>>734063649
There hasn't been one shit fire emblem since its inception thoughbeit
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we need more pirate camilla
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Camilla's booty
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>>734043290
My sisterwife
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>Camilla had to see the mothers and other royal children kill each other over the chance at the throne. Camilla is so mentally scarred that the few family members she has, including you, are the only things keeping her sane.
No wonder she is such a schizo
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>>734090053
I look like this and I say names of characters like this
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>>734099310
still leagues better than anything a romhack has drawn
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thoughts on alear?
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>>734121040
Ugly toothpaste
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>>734121040
he's unironically my favorite lord
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>>734103903
You need to stop mixing up PoR and RD. Single digit res jobbers appear all the way to basically the endgame in PoR. That's why the 255 crit tome glitch is so OP and the other 255 crit weapons arent nearly as impressive
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>>734121040
trash
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>>734121321
The thing plaguing tome users in RD mostly suspect speed and bad tomes once again because they decided to make them even weaker than they were in PoR.
Mind you, Micaiah, Soren, Tormod all have brief flashes of brilliance if you know what you're doing. Fire Mages can actually double in the endgame if you max their speed but its a bit of effort on your part.
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i think i can beat it without having to attack with Ike it's just going to require a lot of luck
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btw. this is strongest fire emblem protagonist
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>is just a cheerleader in her own game
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>>734121615
fuck it. for one chapter I'm going to let Ike attack. it's this or redo the whole save from the beginning to goon Lethe to level 40 in 2-2, and surround an archer in 3-p to goon/kill my units, as having less retards around distracting the enemies could help here, and you can place one of your own units on the sieze point of 3-p to prevent the chapter form completing.
i just want to finish this playthrough. if i do female only with a slightly stricter ruleset I'll remember that i need to change a few things.
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now that the cum is thoroughly hardened, can we admit that it was no master piece?
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>>734121913
it was trash. engage was way better. both in gameplay and narrative
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>>734122049
>and narrative
lets not go too far I shit on PoR a lot but thats like the one good thing it does
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>>734121848
it's not like Ike attacking makes this free, but it means he's not just sitting there for 6 turns as short spears and arrows are hurled his way.
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>>734122096
okay gay boi, tell us more about this lgbtq+ narrative
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>>734122301
alear is canon bisexual tho
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>>734122049
They're two of the best games in the series.
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>>734121073
>he
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>>734122360
yes, he.
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>>734121040
who is the schizo retard trying to push that bitch?
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>>734122110
the position never looked anywhere near this good when Ike was still being a little bitch. several people have died but they were all men and therefore unimportant.
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>>734122662
bros who is left?
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>>734122703
this guy. i guess he doesn't move.
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>>734122427
Sexline Sextensia
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>>734122739
my items! (also dicipline and celerity are attached to her)
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>>734043290
onee-chan paizuri
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>>734043290
My mommysisterwife
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>>734123951
Would you rather she was your mother or your sister?
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>>734124606
my wife
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>>734124792
smart
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>>734121040
I grew to adore female alear so much despite initially thinking her design was silly.
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>>734121680
Strongest in canon or strongest stat wise during gameplay?
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>>734125859
strongest slut wise
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>>734115135
>way too much investment
>one heart seal
The first 2 heart seals aren't actually very contentious btw. People just love wasting them in various ways like on mozu.
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>>734126942
It's too costly because it means I can't use it on Mozu
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>>734126353
puffy vulva got grip
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>>734126942
who even wants a heart seal early? maybe the servant? you could waste it on arthur to make a worse silas troubador effie sucks samurai odin sucks and outlaw nyx will have even worse offenses than mozu using that same heart seal. corrin uses heart seals but usually not right away, the bulk and res hit of dragonstone is usually too good to give up early when your defensive options are limited, and sometimes the best thing is to just stay in base class to level 5 for dragonic hex, at which point the staff store can be upgraded for more heart seals anyways. people treat the early heart seals like they're speedwings when they're closer to elixirs if anything.
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I want to wake up slowly to hair ruffles from a big-thighed tomboy older sister.
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>>734128296
>maybe the servant?
Definitely not Felicia lol. I don't think paladin Jakob is terrible or anything, but it's a meme propped up by big paladin even though that's not even such a great class in Fates.
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>>734128210
Alear's pussy has a tight grip on that market
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WWHAT WERE THEY THINKING RELEASING ALEAR LIKE THAT!?
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mental illness
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>>734129268
Dwagon cameltoe drives men crazy
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>>734129268
>>734129268
THE ONLY GOOD THING THAT CAME OUT FROM FEH
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>>734129268
yeah. we know you prefer to stare at ike or dimitri cock
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>>734126942
>It's just le one heart seal, bro
>That she needs instantly
>Oh, and she needs a Bronze Axe
>She also needs a level instantly for str+2
>And to spam dual strikes every map so that she builds axe rank
>Don't forget to rush her to level 10 at a bare minimum so that she can promote in the class she actually wants to be in
>She will have dogshit stats too, so make sure you offer her constant backup and expect her to miss more than Arthur
>Even when she will have access to mag, make sure she grinds up that tome rank so she can use the actually good tomes that every other mage can use at base
>Also, make her reach C rank in axes. The 65 accuracy Bolt Axe totally isn't a meme on this no skl character
>Being -1 on staff users is totally worth all of that, trust me bro
Bowzu is unironically less investment, at least all she wants is a bronze bow and some exp to catch up.
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>Mozufags still trying to gaslight everyone into thinking that she deserves the first heart seal over everyone else
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>Elisefags still trying to gaslight everyone into thinking that she deserves the first heart seal over everyone else
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IT DOESN'T LE COUNT AS INVESTMENT IF I WANT TO FUCK HER
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>>734130174
>That she needs instantly
You don't really need it instantly. I do think there is a case to be made for waiting to get demoiselle at level 10, even if I prefer the sooner weapon rank training.
>Oh, and she needs a Bronze Axe
Buying bronze weapons in Fates is never a waste and characters like Arthur need one anyways. Mozu would need a bronze bow and Jakob would need a bronze sword.
I was gonna go through all of these and refute each one, but some of the later ones I'm reading tell me you don't understand the game very well. Arthur being your benchmark for bad accuracy when he has one of the highest skill growths in the game? Do you just leave gamble on him and use exclusively hand and steel axes?
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7/0 Arthur: 9x3 + 1/2 = 18.5 truncated to 18
7/0 Elise: 3x3 + 13/2 = 15.5 truncated to 15
-3 Hit oh the humanity.
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>>734128296
>arthur to make a worse silas
It's a tankier Silas, since he gets far more HP. The other stats are similar, but he does have a worse personal
>troubador effie sucks
It's actually an excellent reclass that you either do soon for extra staff rank or later to maximize the str growth before going to Meido
>samurai odin sucks
At a minimum, it gives him two good skills in Duelist Blow and Vantage, and Odin does have the stats to stay in it for a reasonable amount of time.
>outlaw nyx
It does give her mov, but it's mostly for the Shining Bow meme which is admittedly not the worst meme in the game since that bow is strong af.
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Corrin my son, you are grown man now, you must choose your wife
Royal princess sister cunny with assured excellent genes
Or this random ugly peasant farm girl we found 5 minutes ago
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>>734130637
>Worse hit than the least accurate guy on your team
This is indeed a problem, especially since her choice of weapon is notoriously innacurate.
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>>734130842
>It's a tankier Silas, since he gets far more HP
Being a slower Silas with a bad personal sounds like a fantastic use of a heart seal lol
>It's actually an excellent reclass
I love when my reclasses make ch 10 considerably harder
>At a minimum, it gives him two good skills in Duelist Blow and Vantage
Duelist blow isn't very good outside of really niche applications, and vantage doesn't really matter in the early to mid game. Also this makes him useless for ch 10 which is his strongest showing in the game.
>It does give her mov, but it's mostly for the Shining Bow meme which is admittedly not the worst meme in the game since that bow is strong af.
A bow you won't be able to use for like 6 chapters still
Great choices here
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>>734131187
>A second Silas is le bad because he has -1 spd
Meanwhile, he has +5 HP, but you're too tunnel visioned to notice how that's good
>Maid Effie makes ch10 harder
Daggers+Staves+Demoiselle are far better for the chapter than the Knight class for that chapter.
>Avd+30 and cheesing the Guard Gage through vantage aren't very good
(lol. Samurai Odin is about as good at taking the left side as he is as a mage of ch10. Besides, if you really want a mage for that chapter, Nyx is right here.
>A bow you won't be able to use for like 6 chapters
Which is why I called it a meme. At least bows can still be useful due to effective damage and the +1 mov is indeed nice, but it's still a meme.
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>>734128513
Tight pussy hurts
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>>734131657
I always use who ever I like regardless but its interesting seeing discussion like this
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>>734131657
>Meanwhile, he has +5 HP, but you're too tunnel visioned to notice how that's good
Because Silas getting +3 effective defense and res from his personal is way better. And Silas is already not that amazing. Why do I need a second worse version of him?
>Daggers+Staves+Demoiselle are far better for the chapter than the Knight class for that chapter.
If you're gonna commit a heart seal Effie I feel like I don't see the point in early promoting her for a discount ninja.
>Samurai Odin is about as good at taking the left side as he is as a mage of ch10
You don't actually believe this
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>>734131857
>Why do I need a second worse version of him?
Because Silas is one of the better characters you get early on, and a second one means that you have two units in the same good class running around? Did Christmas Cavs not teach you how good that is?
>I don't see the point in early promoting her for a discount ninja
She already got the skills she wants, and Effie gets dropped off anyways as a Knight. She lasts way longer as a Meido, especially since she gets both a strong support role and a strong combat role mixed in one. Definitly one of the characters that suffers the least from promoting earlier, and that's if she hasn't reached a decent level already.
>Odin can't handle the left flank as a Samurai
Why not? Even Selena can handle them, and she doesn't get the fancy skills that Odin does.
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>>734129268
>different filenames
Bwo, people just like posting Alear’s pussy
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>>734132297
>and a second one means that you have two units in the same good class running around? Did Christmas Cavs not teach you how good that is?
Cavaliers aren't inherently good in Fates. Arthur is more valuable with his fighter pairups than he is as a shittier version of Silas. It's a sidegrade that doesn't result in anything special.
>She lasts way longer as a Meido, especially since she gets both a strong support role and a strong combat role mixed in one
Her stats just aren't that good as an early-promoted maid. For the cost of 2 entire seals, she's basically a filler staff bot with worse stats than an untouched Jakob.
You should just drop this fantasy of samurai Odin being a valuable unit like mage Odin. It's so comically untrue I don't even know how you'd come to think it in the first place.
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i wish IS would make summer alear figure
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>>734132717
>Cavaliers aren't inherently good in Fates
Once again, people sleep on Elbow Room, Shelter, wt control and 7 mov. Cavalier also gives good pairup bonuses too.
>Her stats just aren't that good as an early-promoted maid
She's among the tankiest 1-2 range characters you have with +2 def and +2 res in her arsenal, has actually good spd and can exploit Puissance for extra might. Also, if you want better combat at the cost of some staff rank, you can get more levels on her as a knight before reclassing her to Troub/Maid, easily getting her to the standard promo level of 13-15 instead of the 10-11 from reclassing her asap.
>Samurai Odin isn't good
Cope
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Thracia feels a bit inconsistent on this so I have to ask. Can I capture enemies that can be recruited later so long as I don't release them, and still recruit them in later chapters? E.g. capping Shiva the first time you see him or capping Fred/Olwen
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>>734133774
You can't capture Fred/Olwen but yes
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>>734133857
Oh huh you're right. I thought I could cap them for some reason.
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>>734134010
You can't capture mounted units without putting them to sleep to force dismount them
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>>734134074
I don't know how I didn't realize this at 10 chapters in. The sleep trick is good to know though, thank you.
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>Firstaid has now doing FFT art
I know where this is going.
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>>734134347
Kaga for some reason expected you to know this because there's a unit later you can only recruit by capturing her and she's mounted lol
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>>734134624
>Is now
God damn it
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>>734129268
mental basedness
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Camilla is pure sex but all her doujins suck, just a bunch of weird Takumi NTR garbage.
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Lissa best girl
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>>734136285
NinTRendo
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>>734136285
Good thing her little sister only loves (You)
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>>734136285
i don't care about doujins
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>>734043290
If you are a secondary
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>>734043290
That's not Reina.
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>>734110845
Maybe because Mozu is a meta viable character where as Donnel takes too long to get going and doesn't really have a strong niche that plays into the game's meta unlike Mozu?
I don't know why you faggots get so upset over Mozu being a pretty good unit (namely in CQ). It's like Nino shitposting has destroyed your brain and now you take it out on any and every growth unit.
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>>734138364
Every character in Conquest is viable. It's the most well-balanced cast in the franchise. Mozu is like high-mid tier but people pretend she's on par with your god damn royals.
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>>734138698
You're making up strawmen in your head and nobody is saying Mozu is a better unit through an entire run than Xander or Camilla. She is a very strong boss killer thanks to her combination of growths, attributes and classes, and that gives her a niche not many units share which is why people like to talk about her as a viable investment.
You just want to be angry over a character you don't like in a way that makes you feel smart, and you don't mind making up arguments to specifically debunk because you aren't actually all that intelligent.
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>>734138958
>You're making up strawmen in your head and nobody is saying Mozu is a better unit through an entire run than Xander or Camilla
The funny part is you're not even able to include Azura, Corrin, Leo, and Elise in this, because you are either are a Mozufag delusional enough to believe she is competition for them, or you at least know that people who would make such claims do exist and aren't a strawman I invented.
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>>734130967
Arthur is not the least accurate unit in the team because he has bizarrely high skill.
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>>734139201
Ah yes the classic boss killer azura
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>>734139604
When did I claim she was a boss killer? And why are we pretending that's even a valuable niche in Conquest in the first place? Killing stationary enemies with the wide assortment of buffs the player has access to is never an issue outside of like one-rounding Takumi in endgame.
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>>734139201
Nigger I wasn't going to list every royal but sure, to satisfy your autistic faggot ass let's do it:
>Azura
I shouldn't need to tell you, or anyone, that your fucking dancer is your strongest unit.
>Corrin
Oh shit the character that feels like they were designed to solo the game is better than Mozu? Who could have guessed. Can fill literally any role, especially roles you don't really have a better option for (wow, you mean you can just use Corrin as your magic tank instead of trying to make a shit unit like Odin work, and you'll get way better results? Amazing!)
>Elise
Early game staff bot, amazing growths, only downside is that her class selection is kind of counter intuitive but even then you can just make her a wyvern and it'll mostly work out eventually (questionable if this is a better use of a secondary seal than making Mozu work but to each their own). If you really want to destroy the game just use the freebie Witch DLC seal on her and watch her invalidate the game.
>Leo
He's fine, honestly pretty overrated and you could make a solid argument for Mozu being "better" whatever that means when comparing two characters in mostly different roles. I mean I guess you can just slap horse spirit on him and call it a day but that's really more horse spirit just being a really overtuned tome. He also comes stronger than the chapter he was put in, so it's not like he's hard to use.
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>>734139917
>Nigger I wasn't going to list every royal but sure
Then why did you list 2 of them? I already said "royals" because all of them clearly mog her, but then you name those 2 like the others are somehow in contention.
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>>734139564
His skill is not nearly high enough to offset his bad luck and his weapon choice, making him the second most innacurate character right after Wyvern Elise. Even Nyx is more accurate by virtue of having Heartseeker.
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>>734138958
>You just want to be angry over a character you don't like in a way that makes you feel smart, and you don't mind making up arguments to specifically debunk because you aren't actually all that intelligent
Truth nuke
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>>734140081
Because that's now people talk you fucking autistic retard. If I say "Royals" and give a few examples of royals, that doesn't mean those are the only royals I'm talking about. Holy shit you are so fucking stupid. Is 4chan the only place you talk to other people?
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I wish Lazyprocrastinator, nodu and Overused made tons of Camilla porn videos.
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>>734140178
Why are you so angry?
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>>734047906
based and redpilled
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Mozu is literally unusable because the deploy limit is 6 which is only enough for the royals which all outclass her in every situation
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Speaking of strawmen
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>>734122739
I actually think it's clever how in a map that you need to wipe out everyone to win in a time limit, there's a dude just hiding in a corner trying to stall you out.
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>>734140095
>His skill is not nearly enough to offset his bad luck
1 Skill is worth 6 Luck.
Also for Nyx, Heartseeker only works at 1-1 on top of her averaging like 6 less skill for +3 luck and it only gets worse as the game goes along. A 6 skill gap almost entirely invalidates Heartseeker just by existing.
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>>734140731
It's one of the best rout maps in the series tbqh
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Discussing Arthur's accuracy is pointless because he's just going to die to a random crit eventually.
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>>734140869
bronze axe
defense stance
resetting the chapter
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>>734140732
>1 Skill is worth 6 Luck
That would be useful if Arthur had a big skill lead over other characters, but he doesn't. In other words, being way behind on luck and, once again, his weapon choice make him bottom of the pack when it comes to accuracy.
>Heartseeker only works at 1-1
It's more accurate to say that it always works if the attack is at 1 range, no matter the weapon. In other words, she gets to be more accurate at 1 range than a lot of characters, and gets to have better 2 range than other characters by virtue of using Magic instead of shitty hand axes.
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>>734140625
trvthsvpernova
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It's funny that this accuracy argument with Arthur spawned from Elise and went to heartseeker because of Nyx, so without Elise's involvement we've arrived at the fact that Elise can easily get heartseeker thanks to Odin and completely fix any of her hit rate issues.
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>>734140732
>1 Skill is worth 6 Luck
kek, what the fuck is wrong with the luck formula in Fates?
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Something that I find strange in these reclassing discussions is how rarely Zero is brought up. Sure, the reclass is bad for his spd, but every single other of his stats benefits from it and he gets skills he really wants as a Dark Mage.
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>>734141376
>Just get her married, reclass her once more for Heartseeker and she's finally not the least accurate character in the game!
Totally not an investment btw. Getting Mozu some exp though? Way too much to ask for, you're scrimbloing.
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>>734141474
It's mostly just a case that Zero is already acting as your anti-mage unit and reclassing him makes him worse at that job. You can just use Felicia as MCorrin but sometimes you want Zero specifically anyway.
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>Zero
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>>734141617
It is an investment, but one with payoff. That's the important distinction.
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>Zero
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who the fuck is Zero
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>>734141719
I think he pulls off the look alright, could be some Dutch trader in 1800.
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>>734141731
Niles?
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>>734141621
That's fair and all, but he's also really good as a Dark Mage, yet it seems no one does that reclass.
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>>734141689
>Having decent accuracy is a payoff but having +29 damage isn't
Wyvern elise tards make mozu look better by the day
>>734141731
The homosexual, at least that's what I'm gathering from context clues. I'm not attached to early translations from 500 years ago so I can larp as an oldfag
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>>734141731
HU HA HO
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>>734141827
>Having decent accuracy is a payoff but having +29 damage isn't
Yes because you're doing 33x2 to an enemy that has 40 health and then have no enemy phase.
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>>734141810
His only major advantage over Odin is higher speed, and when Odin is using nosferatu for most of the early game that doesn't really matter at all.
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The reclass everyone is really sleeping on is dark mage Camilla
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>>734043334
You disgusting gay mentally ill foot faggot.
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>>734142054
It's actually the opposite, the only thing Odin has going for him is the higher weapon rank, skill and luck. These three things matter less than they seem, since Zero can easily get weapon rank, plus tomes as well as their shared hit+20 at 1 range means that neither have accuracy issues to begin with. Zero is legitimately good as a Dark Mage.
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>instead of using a heart seal to get another archer use a heart seal to get one less archer
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>>734142354
>the only thing Odin has going for him is the higher weapon rank, skill and luck
And HP and defense. And an extremely useful child paralogue that incentivizes his deployment with a strong magic pairup. The point is you're spending resources on an a Nyx/Odin sidegrade when you're already given Nyx and Odin for free.
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>>734142124
I actually agree hard with this. Camilla, despite being obviously the best unit in the game, still is underrated by virtue of people assuming that she must have at least one flaw as a unit.
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I early promote Niles so he can pass on Shuriken Breaker ASAP for the ninja rape hall.
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>>734142547
>and HP and defense
You'd be shocked to learn that Zero actually beats Odin in those as a Dark Mage, Odin only manages to tie him or have +1 hp at most when they're both at level 15.
>extremely useful child paralogue that incentivizes his deployment with a strong magic pairup
Well yeah, that is the actual reason to use Odin. However, Zero is a guaranteed deploy in maps anyways, he's not taking a slot from Odin unless you don't want to use Odin.
>Nyx/Odin sidegrade
It's more of an upgrade for Zero than anything, and a really good one at that. There's never a time where having another strong Dark Mage is a bad thing, you know?
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>>734141621
>the guy with wtd against mages is going to be your anti mage instead of the vastly superior Kaze
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>>734142892
You don't get Kaze until after the fun tower, so yes you need a good anti-mage unit before then. Even with WTD Zero stomps pretty much any mage 1v1.
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>>734141827
>I'm not attached to early translations from 500 years ago so I can larp as an oldfag
I thought the fates patch was new?
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>>734141206
15/1 Hero Arthur has 18 Skl, 2 Lck = 55
15/1 Hero Selena has 17 Skl, 11 Lck = 56
15/1 Hero Laslow has 20 Skl, 16 Lck = 68
15/1 Hero Silas has 19 Skl, 11 Lck = 62
15/1 MN Kaze has 18 Skl, 7 Lck = 57
15/1 Malig Elise has 7 Skl, 17 Lck = 29
15/1 Hero Charlotte has 16 Skl, 12 Lck = 54
L5 Camilla has 17 Skl, 13 Lck = 57
15/1 DK Nyx has 10 Skl, 6 Lck = 33
15/1 Sorc Nyx has 8 Skl, 4 Lck = 26
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>>734142831
>You'd be shocked to learn that Zero actually beats Odin in those as a Dark Mage
At base lol. Niles is +1 in defense for like 3 levels before Odin is tied on average, and his HP and defense growths are much higher. And Odin is +2 HP at level 15 already.
>However, Zero is a guaranteed deploy in maps anyways
Uhh, he is? I usually stop deploying him after the early-game unless I'm trying to get Nina for fun.
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>>734143008
Fates took like half a year or so to get officially localized. So there's a certain brand of oldfag who keeps using the original Japanese names because they came first.

(Fates players are oldfags now, lol)
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>>734143007
You get kaze after chapter 11 and there's like one chapter with significant mage presence before then, and that's chapter 8 where Niles is forced anyways. I'm not even sure that a heart seal would help much there because you'd be calling so much less due to hitting with your weaker magic against their stronger resistance. Niles has never struggled with the mages on that chapter for me but I don't know maybe you're retarded so you'll blow 2k on making a chapter slightly easier instead of just buying a tonic like a normal person
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>>734141827
You only need enough damage to actually one round the target. Everything after that is superfluous and you should be focusing on shit like accuracy, movement, bulk, enemy phasing etc.
Mages in Fates are blessed by the fact that they get a meme tome that offers +9 Hit, +3 Def/Res/AS and magic pair ups are not hotly contested (Maid Felicia, Adventurer Nyx, whatever the fuck you run for Malig!Elise)
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>>734143174
>Bottom of the pack even at 15/1 as a Hero
Kek, at least he finally gets to use swords instead of axes. Also, this shows how sad Wyvern Elise's accuracy is, she only beats Sorceror Nyx, and that's without taking Heartseeker into account
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>>734143451
I still have a lot of filenames saved with the Japanese names since we didn't even know their localized names yet for most of 2015.
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>>734143218
>At base lol
For a good while, it takes way too long for Odin to take the lead, as he barely has an HP advantage at level 15 and doesn't even have a def advantage yet. It doesn't help that Zero has +3 levels on Odin at base, so it's harder for Odin to catch up in practice to the same level as Zero for the equal level comparison.
>Uhh, he is?
You clearly don't capture as often as I do, which basically guarantees his slot.
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>>734143865
>You clearly don't capture as often as I do
Clearly. I think capturing units is kind of a waste of time and I don't know why you'd need them unless you were ironmanning or playing some weird challenge.
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>>734143542
Are you seriously going to pretend that Camilla barely getting +2 Hit on Arthur is a big fucking deal? Especially when they both use axes and barely anyone complains about Camilla's hit rates?
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>>734143007
It's been a while but I don't remember him coming all that late. I definitely remember Kaze being my go-to mage eater. Probably helps that I funneled a lot of the prologue exp into him.
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>>734143523
You forgot to include Chapter 11
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>>734144029
Not him but ch 11 diviners are weak pussies and your servant can easily btfo them
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>>734143960
There's still 30 posts until bump limit...
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>>734143542
>Arthur has competitive hit rates with most of the cast by virtue of his raw skill stat alone
>Hurr durr Arthur's hit rates are bad
Get a new script. Nyx also needing to be adjacent to enemies almost all the time is also not a good look for her because she doesnt have the bulk of Wyvern Elise, Sorc Odin and so on.
Btw, Strategist has 8 Skl/23 Lck = 35 Hit but that comes at the cost of being worse in almost every other category.
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>>734143990
Nah, it doesn't matter at that point. The problem is just that you have to reach that point, and it still proves the assessment that he's among the most innacurate characters true despite having caught up somewhat.
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>>734143960
kys unfunny shitter
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>>734144232
>Arthur's hit rates are bad
Yes. Arthur's hit is STILL lower than 90% of the army at 15/1 as a Hero, and that's with all the effort put into him. Include the levels before he had to grow his skl and promote, then his luck issue only becomes more apparent.
>Nyx also needing to be adjacent to enemies almost all the time
You need to be adjacent to enemies almost all the time with any character that doesn't use mag or daggers. Heartseeker is not a conditional, it's a blanket buff to all 1 range attacks that doesn't prevent Nyx from still having superior 2 range to most of the cast.
>she doesnt have the bulk of Wyvern Elise
She actually has better bulk thanks to Nos
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>>734144094
Felicia can, Joker is iffy because of the health halving staff.
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>>734144150
She's doing her best.
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10/0 Arthur 11 Skl/1 Lck
10/0 Effie 10 Skl/12 Lck
10/0 Odin 12 Skl/12 Lck
10/0 Selena 12 Skl/9 Lck
10/0 Beruka 14 Skl/10 Lck
10/0 Nyx 5 Skl/3 Lck
10/0 Elise 4 Skl/16 Lck
10/0 Silas 11 Skl/9 Lck
10/0 Niles 10 Skl/6 Lck (ties Arthur btw).
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>>734144150
These posts will go on fast, anons are arguing about video games after all.
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>>734144850
I've done it with an underleveled Jakob who was multiple points behind his averages in basically every stat. They have like rat spirits and deal pitiful damage.
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>>734144884
>Still at the bottom
>Has to use axes instead of any more accurate weapons
>Doesn't get to cheat for more hit rate with Heartseeker
I should mention Arthur's hit rates are not bad enough to make him unusable, but it is a problem. Elise's hit rates, however, are worse than that, and are what I would call crippling.
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>>734144760
15/1 Malig has 26 HP, 16 Spd, 17 Lck, 14 Def, 17 Res
15/1 Nyx has 22 HP, 17 Spd, 4 Lck, 7 Def, 13 Res

Nosferatu is great but Elise has +4 HP, +10 Lck, +7 Def and +5 Res.
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>muh Heartseeker
(5x3) + (3/2) = 16 + 20 = 36 (only at 1-1)
Boy, I definitely like throwing my frailest unit exclusively at 1-1 range to just barely eke out an accuracy lead on a unit that supposedly has terrible hit rates.
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>>734145215
Nos can turn Nyx functionally invincible, which is something that Elise can't do. I think that's worth more than stats in isolation, since it means that Nyx can EP far better in practice while Elise has to count the number of she takes.
Elise also has to keep away from bows, while Nyx only has to be careful about a pack of them due to not being able to exploit Heartseeker against them despite WTA.
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>>734145563
Nos is entirely contigent on Nyx actually hitting which we have already established as being worse than Wyvern Elise and there is no guarantee that every enemy will engage at 1-1 where Heartseeker will trigger. She also doesnt have reasonably easy access to Vantage or a passable enough Luck stat to pad her evasion to offset Nosferatu's avoid penalty either.
Elise will simply just pad her bulk with horse spirit/calamity gate.
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>>734145797
>there is no guarantee that every enemy will engage at 1-1 where Heartseeker will trigger
There are not that many enemies with 2 range in the game, almost all physical enemies have to use 1 range for instance. Include the fact that out of the few physical units that actually use 2 range is bows which Nyx handles better than Elise due to obvious reasons, and Nyx has a clear advantage. Nos also works better to build Guard Gage, since you need to hit less often when you can ignore damage entirely sometimes.
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Benny is the best unit because he can make nyx and Elise more accurate
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>>734146170
>Not using Benny to pass Berserker to Effie
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I genuinely do not understand why you'd use Nyx for nostank strats past the earlygame. She's like the worst option you have between Leo, Odin, or Ophelia before even taking other potential characters like Camilla and Corrin into consideration.
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>>734146113
Elise doubles so her guard will be building up faster per round. She also has better avoid since you know +10 Lck > +1 Spd for the formula and won't be chunking her avoid into the toilet with Nos which further helps her bulk even before Horse Spirit/CG for those big eps.
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>>734145530
>only at 1-1
Still funny how much you pretend that's supposed to be a restriction, literally every Fates units except for archers uses 1 range almost exclusively. The only difference is that Nyx is blessed with the choice of using non dogshit 2 range that doubles as 1 range since she's a Dark Mage.
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>>734146253
>Elise doubles so her guard will be building up faster per round
I'd rather be able to tank several hits on EP to build up Guard, building up Guard on PP is easy for both.
>Relying on avoid in Fates
This isn't GBA Emblem (lol
>Horse spirit/Calamity Gale
Nyx can also use those btw, and faster than Elise since she doesn't have to get out of E rank hell.
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>>734146246
Here's something really funny
15/0 Sorc Elise raised as troubadour
24 2.5 24.5 6.5 17.5 19.5 9.5 20.5
15/0 Sorc Nyx
22.8 1.9 19.2 8.1 17.6 4.2 7.2 13.4

Nyx has worse bulk than even Elise and still has worse net hit especially once they both get HS.
>>734146303
Its a meaningful restriction when your name is Nyx.
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>>734146625
>Its a meaningful restriction when-
It's never a restriction, it's a straight buff. While other units are forced to fuck around with dogshit handaxes and javs to have 2 range at all, she gets to use strongass Magic and gets to have a free +20 hit on all her 1 range.
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>>734146578
Elise has +4 HP, +7 Def, +10 Lck AND +5 Res on Nyx. Nyx cannot beat Elise in a raw bulk competition, she has to use Nosferatu as her out. Even with HS, she still has worse bulk than a spiritless Elise.
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>>734146873
>she has to use Nosferatu as her out.
Yeah, and she wins with it straight up
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>>734146927
>She wins with it straight up
Nyx has an absolutely stellar 96(116) Hit.
Arthur who you were complaining about has ~120 Hit with a Hand Axe.
Elise has 119 with Fire and 108 with Horse Spirit.

Very impressive hit rates even with big Heartseeker.
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>>734147353
>Nyx has an absolutely stellar 96(116) Hit
With what weapon?
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>>734147448
Nosferatu after all, she "wins" straight up with it.
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>>734148021
So in other words, she gets to have as much accuracy as these other two with a straight up superior weapon in every way. I'll take it, and I may use a Fire tome if I need Nyx to have the same accuracy at 2 range against a specific enemy instead of EP an entire group of enemies at once.
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>>734148207
The entire point of the argument is their EP performance, why are you continuously trying to shift the goalposts?
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>>734148207
She'll get nearly one shot by the first one and recover about half (at best if she hits) and then the second guy will finish her off, doubly so if they had a seal skill/hidden weapon.
Seriously name one group she can nostank past chapter 16
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>>734148405
>why are you continuously trying to shift the goalposts?
Huh? When did I do that? I just said that Nos Nyx is better for EP than both Arthur and Elise, since Nos is a superior weapon that Nyx brings up to the same accuracy as their weapons for most combats.
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>>734148563
>past chapter 16
I don't care about Nyx past ch16, she's not a good unit you know. It's telling that the "meta" Wyvern Elise has to compete with her, though.
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>>734148673
Has to compete with her in what way? Elise gets stronger as the game progresses.
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>>734148365
did your bot break
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>>734148743
>Elise gets stronger as the game progresses
Classic scrimblo cope, she sucks dick so hard until at least ch16 that Nyx is legitimate competition. I can make any unit good if I put as much effort scrimbloing them as scrimbloing Wyvern Elise.
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>>734148889
>Classic scrimblo cope, she sucks dick so hard until at least ch16
The game is easy as fuck until ch 16 lol
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>>734148945
>T-the early game is easy!
Another scrimblo cope. At the bare minimum, there's ch10 which is a challenge.
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>>734149121
And wyvern elise is way better than troubador elise on ch 10
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>>734138364
There is literally nothing special about Mozu. Anything she can do, any other unit would do for an equivalent amount of effort, oftentimes better.
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>>734149149
Nah, Wyvern Elise sucks there too. Troub Elise is better as a backpack for Odin than Wyvern Elise is as a scrimblo on that map. Nyx is better than Wyvern Elise on ch10 too, btw.
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>>734149231
>The defense pairup that flies and can fight is worse than the troubador who gives like... luck
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>>734149183
can she at least spawn some useful kids? e.g. life&death for a bosskiller
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>>734148574
Lmao
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>>734149289
Troub pairup buffs Odin's mag and also grants a valuable staff user, which is far more relevant than a bad meme flier.
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>>734149338
Yeah, but then again, Odin does that better too. She is mogged to hell and back 3x over by at least 3 other units in any conceivable niche. Her only gimmick is that she has exclusive access to a mediocre Hoshidan close - a gimmick she shares with Selena (also a better unit than Mozumeme).
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>>734149419
Odin's magic is already more than enough to 2 shot every enemy on the map and the defense is way more impactful since every enemy is physical.
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You have to be really good at FE to use Elise. I don't know why they made a wyvern rider with such low strength and skill.
Imagine if she had a class that could use tomes&staves and got passives that stacked with lily's poise. That would be so useful.
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Wyvern Elise fags lost

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