>>734057964
the pokemon ip is literally so good that people will play anything to experience it. there is not a single vidya ip more appealing than pokemon

>>734057964
they take criticism of Gamefreak as a personal attack because they are mentally stunted

>>734057964
ww doesn't look as bad as the other pokemon games
it's at least a huge upgrade over sv
might be the first pokemon game i ever buy
>>734058017
i have to agree with this
there isn't a single monster collector franchise that captures this particular flavor of adventure
and monster designs also help tremendously
there's just something appealing about setting out on a journey to collect monsters, train them, battle strong trainers and leaders, defeat evil team, etc
no idea why no one else has bothered to copy this formula
there's roco kingdom and dokev which feel somewhat similar, guess we'll see how they compare to pokemon when we get more info on them

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>>734057964
Billion of fans x 0.1% simps = a shitton of simp
Most pokémon fans haven't bought a Gamefreak game in an eternity, sadly "not most" is more than enough to ensure GF's success no matter what they shat this generation.

>>734058329
people have tried, the problem is pokemons creature design is like 10x better than any of its competitors. even the bad pokemon designs completely mog most things from temtem or whatever.

>>734057964
you are comparin to what exactly

the games are AAA quality and have zero capable competitors

>>734058378
thankfully, roco kingdom is somewhat similar to pokemon in artstyle
plus it's a f2p game with no gacha
i can see it taking off like genshin
dokev looks interesting too
it's got its own unique style of monsters, plus there was huge hype for it when they marketed it
i can't wait to see more now that crimson desert is out of the way

>>734057964
OP is shitposting but Pokemon is in a way better state than most franchises. It's better than GTA

Gamefreak made super crack back in the 90s. As long as a Pokemon game boots, and you can capture about 100 new critters and gather badges/trinkets, people will buy it. it really is that simple. I don't know why /v/ feels it needs to be pathologized any deeper than that.

>>734057964
The games are perpetually geared to kids, and that wont ever change. I would love to have a T rated pokemon game just once, better story, more complex world, gym leaders who dont suck, countless legnedaries, and gimmicks just ruined it as the years went on. GIANT MAX THEM!!!!! Stupid. They should go back and fix holes like cubone and kangaskhan thing, every pokemon should have a baby version/1st stage version. What it would take is someone to make their own version of pokemon, but they would have to tiptoe over all the mechanics and other stuff so they don't get sued. The concept that some pokemon have different elemental types like sandshrew is cool though.

>>734057964
True fans only play gen2-gen4 games and their mods and don't care about modern pokeslop.

>>734058778
legends arceus was them trying to make a game that appealed to older fans (it worked imo) but then they never did anything like it again since. za might as well be a different series, it sucks compared to arceus

>>734057964
Do they though? Even pokemon fans openly admit the games have sucked for at least three console generations. They just buy them to explore new places with their favorites.

>>734057964
Palworld
lost

>>734058996
the entire switch era of pokemon was shit
at least gen 10 looks promising
hopefully it just gets better going forward and they realize fans don't want kiddy garbage like let's go or half assed remakes like bdshitpiss

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>>734057964
brand loyalty, sunk cost fallacy, personality based on a franchise. It's the biggest case of Stockholm syndrome en mass in the world

>>734059106
>hey realize fans don't want kiddy garbage like let's go
Fans want more of the heart attack inducing cuteness that was in let's go. Other than that, yeah. They can pass on the rest.

>>734057964
>Why does wanting gamefreak to do better offend them so?
Because Pokemon fans are a subgroup of Nintendo fans as a whole. They've been raised on decades of "Nintendo does it best" propaganda that they turn a blind eye to anything bad Nintendo has done. Just mention any kind of commercial or financial flop Nintendo has put out (Like the Virtual Boy, Starfox Adventures, or Metroid: Other M) and the Nintendo shills will shit their pants in rage as if you just punched them in the face.

Also the new pokemon look like shit and I have no intention of buying a gay ass switch2.

>>734059106
>at least gen 10 looks promising
Problem is, gen 10 is what gens 8 and 9 should have looked like.

This first trailer isn't even a good indicator of the general quality of the game either, just that it looks somewhat passable graphically and performance wise.

>caco thread
-489473 karma to ziony

>>734057964
I don't know I just feel like there's a lot more scrutiny on Pokemon compared to your average JRPG franchise like Ys.

>>734057964
if you like something it sucks to hear people rag on it constantly, even if it's low quality slop that you probably have shit taste for liking

>>734059745
Most people complaining are pokefags that want to see things improve for this franchise.

>>734059825
yeah but OP is talking about the people who accept mediocrity and get offended by people wanting gamefreak to do better, not the fans wanting gamefreak to do better

>>734059857
Well they're both fans in this case. One just accepts the shitty slop and the other one doesn't.

>>734058778
I'm still mad that we don't have a Tauros/Miltank common prevo, and that we have tons of male only Pokémon which should basically never be able to breed in the wild. I'm not asking for much here, just basic world building shit to explain how mons like Rufflets even survive in the wild (which I actually just discovered is male only, why it's just a randomass bird??)

>>734060092
anon, egg groups exist

>>734057964
Why does TPC still use the same fucking logo from the 90s in all their games for every western release

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>>734057964
>mediocrity
You wish.
That ship sailed a long time ago, it's been nothing but dogshit for well over a decade now.

>>734060173
better they do that than simplify the logo into something that looks like shit

>>734060173
>>734060231
which is the realistic alternative

>>734059386
What?

>>734057964
Fuck you; that's why. Gamefreak could kill 10,000 people every day and I would cheer just to spite you. Every joyful moment in your life is offensive to me. You should be fall in a ravine and starve to death. You should witness the deaths of everyone you care about and suffer through life alone.

I like Pokemon, and if you don't, get over it. And instead of trying to convince me to give a shit about your complaints, consider suicide.

>>734057964
There is scientific evidence that playing Pokemon as a child rewires your brain. That’s why people feel a need to defend and support the brand no matter how lazy the products get.

>>734058329
idk why people on /V/ expect "competitors" that try the exact same thing as the original ip they´re based off to do anything except perform worse than the original and then think the original ip is doing some ultra special thing that makes it better.
pokemon is owned by a massive company that has most of its sales from merch and general synergy from the brand that´s all preplanned before anything starts. how do you expect a "competitor" to do any of that espeically when theres no fucking point since every pokemon fan will never think "oh, these games suck, i should look into something that plays like pokemon" theyll just think "oh ill just find another fucking pokemon game"

>>734060141
When two Pokémon of different species breed the egg always belong to the mother's species
Male only Pokémon should be bred out in a single generation

>>734060976
Pokemon has been very carefully managed so as to remain the absolute top dog in its field
kids grew up on Pokemon, Pokemania was a thing, grown adults and children alike are very attached to their designs, they grew up on the games, the anime, the toys, the cards, all of it, the Pokemon Company ensures it has a slice in each part
the games aren't even what make TPC their biggest profit, its the merch sales, the anime and games are ways to push more merch and make new plushes/toys, all the game has to do is be serviceable since everyone will buy it no matter what, some will even double dip and get both versions because they cultivated fans to behave like this
even if a competitor arises that quite literally made better games than Pokemon, it won't beat Pokemon, it can't, even Palworld's success is never going to reach a fraction of Pokemons because how can it?

>>734057964
Game Freak is doing better. What’s the issue?

>>734060092
Ditto is basically your answer, but yeah Miltanks and Tauros should produce baby miltanks or Tauros, and simply having their natures determine the baby would be simple enough, i.e breeding a Tauros with Brave and a Miltank with Jolly would give you a Miltank, something like that.

Why are Pokemon fans in "WE'RE SO BACK" mode on a trailer that is quite literally labeled "not representative of actual gameplay"?

>>734059154
It’s funny how you keep spamming this image in every Pokemon thread and get zero replies.
Here, a pity (You).

>>734061496
It only took them 30 years.

>>734061527
But Ditto is supposedly rare. Dittos themself can't breed to make more Dittos. It's just a very basic world building pitfall

>>734057964
A dystopian number of people essentially stop maturing at puberty and spend the rest of their life pretending they're still 12 years old.

>>734058017
This tard was brainwashed by Nintendo at a young age. Sad.

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>>734057964
You're never going to believe this, but their fans are mostly children.

>>734061635
Why were you in full on hall of anal devastation mode shitting and pissing everywhere after Scarlet and Violet trailer that also was labeled "not representative of actual gameplay"?
None of Switch Pokemon games looked or ran worse at launch than in the trailers.

>>734061720
So what’s the issue? They did better like you wanted.

>>734058421
every other jrpg is better tho

>>734059154
Trvke. Spot on image btw, Palworld has better designs than Pokemon these days even.

>>734057964
Why does wanting you to buy an ad offend you so?

>>734061905
>Why were you in full on hall of anal devastation mode shitting and pissing everywhere after Scarlet and Violet trailer that also was labeled "not representative of actual gameplay"?
yikes, touchy

>>734062148
It’s funny how you can’t shit on the graphics anymore so you invent new ways to get upset.

>>734058017
>>734058378
This is a grown "man" worshiping a series for literal children btw

>>734062301
>It’s funny how you can’t shit on the graphics anymore
Oh I'll find em, just give us a trailer with shitty looking tree and it's all over for you
hell some of those ground textures didn't look so hot in the trailer, better watch out

>>734062425
Well, your first reaction was to accuse the trailer of being a bullshot, so you think it looks good enough.

>>734058329
>ww doesn't look as bad as the other pokemon games
>it's at least a huge upgrade over sv
>might be the first pokemon game i ever buy
You retards say this about literally every new Pokemon game.
>idk at least sv looks better than swsh, maybe this time it'll be good, I'll give it a try
You're genuinely braindead cattle, holy shit.

>>734057964
do you think they aren't doing their best? the LZA leaks reveal that they downgraded the game for final release

>>734062373
i'm literally negative about the games, you're brainless. the ip has undeniable appeal

>>734061728
The world building has many broken pieces, the fact that legnedaries can be caught at all, not to mention by a 12 year old who can take on adult pokemon trainers is already dumb enough. I know its geared to kids so they can self insert, but its still stupid.

>>734062075
They cant buy an ad on 4chan as that will result in bad PR, dummy

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>>734058329
>there isn't a single monster collector franchise that captures this particular flavor of adventure
This could intrest you, kickstarter went live two days ago and they're already halfway to their final goal.
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/narastudio/wonderful-neoran-valley

Pokemon fans only care about pokemon and trainer designs though, even if the open world is shit the battles look great

>>734063351
Looks like they are copying the same style of pokemon and will be sued before they even learn to crawl

>>734057964
the new trailer looks great
why not just be happy for them?

>>734058778
>better story, more complex world, gym leaders who dont suck
YOU GOT THAT
IT WAS CALLED BLACK AND WHITE
AND YOU HATED IT FOR BEING DIFFERENT

>>734058017
people who don't play the series will seethe about this post, but its correct. Pokemon hasn't changed since its first game, and its the perfect example of a game that is refined to near perfection. You know the broader strokes but the details change so its an adventure that never ends while still feeling familiar enough to be cozy. Compare it to games that constantly try to reinvent themselves like final fantasy and Zelda, those fanbases hate each other, the new games, the old games, themselves, and everything else under the sun. Pokemon? It's akin to dragon quest, it perfected itself and is happy to be what it is.

Consider also that 99% of the complaints about the games are that they have shit graphics and performance, so when something like winds and waves comes out people are shouting how good it is now despite the only difference being how it looks. Grahpicsfags hate Pokemon, people who actually play video games love it.

>>734057964
experiencing the peak of an IP during your formative years creates diehard fans for life, regardless of the quality going forward. it's probably the reason I still cling onto all my gen 1 Bionicle sets despite the IP being long dead and having a shit revival.

>>734063475
Nah, the gym leaders were easy in that game also. Gym leaders should have a full 6 count, and healing items should be banned on both sides, they should also not cheese gym leaders pokemon to make them have abilities and what not they wouldn't normally have be it their level or what have you. For someone to make a new pokemon like game they would have to lean away from the elemental aspects and figure out a new paper/rock/scissors mechanic.

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>>734063393
>The battles look great

>>734057964
bootlickers get off protecting their masters
whiteknights are the biggest cancer of any communities and the west is filled to the brim with them.

>>734063823
honestly even by Pokemon standards, S/V ran like complete shit, I don't hold Gamefreak in particularly high regard, but I expected better than this
I can't help but feel Wind/Waves will run just as poorly, but who knows

>>734058329
pokemon's only remarkable asset is a casual-friendly utopic playground that revolves around the protagonist to facilitate his coming of age rite of passage and enable the player to live a power fantasy. the world bends over backwards to enable it, which may be ok gameplay-wise (everyone would hate having to sit in the sidelines and giving up legendaries to the authorities), but ends up making no sense plot-wise (12-year-olds put the entire police force to shame, man-eating creatures subsist on berries instead of eating people or each other, everyone sets up cockfights instead of just shooting people dead)
multiplayer is just a coin flipping simulator that is often decided at character select and gameplay consists of guessing what the opponent might do

https://youtu.be/UCZW9Rhq80A
TPC gets constantly btfo by their fans, they could literally never do a system as good as this, and this is made by one single third worlder with a decomp of HG. The new games can't hold a candle to the base HGSS let alone this.

>>734063823
Should have been more specific. Multiplayer battles look great, that's where you spend 99% of your time playing with bros

>>734063428
Not really, the mons are intelligent and speak and you don't put them in balls, you talk to them.

>>734058778
There is a t rated Pokemon, it’s called Fire Emblem, which is why the vast majority of Pokemon sycophants are also fire emblem sycophants
>bu bu bu they’re completely different
They’re really not

>>734063351
>kickstarter
Lmao lmao even

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>>734058421
>the games are AAA quality

>>734058329
most of pokemon's success is due to its branding and designs. take those away and no one will buy it. it's been demonstrated time and time again

>>734064142
ngl these bugs were soulful as fuck

>>734064151
>most of Pokémon’s success comes from the fact that it’s called Pokemon and contains Pokemon, take away the Pokemon and no one would buy it
Okay Socrates thanks for your wisdom

>>734064079
Thats mechanics, im talking about how they look, you have to step far away from resembling pokemon art style or they will sue you.
>>734064106
I didnt know you collect monsters in that game and have them fight on your behalf, must have missed that part of the story.

>>734064242
You just collect humans (and shapeshifting children) instead of monsters, you said you wanted it t rated no?

>>734059857
Remember when #BringBackNationalDex was trending on twatter and the bootlickers responded with the "counter-hashtag" #ThankYouGAMEFREAK?

>>734057964
I have two friends in their 30s that buy all the main games still. One of them even got the $20 FireRed
Switch 2 release.
From what I understand, they just want to turn their brains off after a long day of work and play pokemon.

>>734058329
Because you're retarded. There are tons of creature collectors and I played 2 demos this steam next fest. There were a lot but I only found 2 going the pokemon way. A lot were fucking idlers bakas.

>>734064274
I never understood why this was controversial, do people really want a single game with 1000+ monsters to collect? Like .00001% of players could even be assed to catch them all when there was 250

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>>734057964
Pokemon fans are Pokemon fans first and care about everything else later, so video games, anime, card games, anything.

The palworld discussions have basically proved that they know nothing about video games beyond pokemon.

>>734064048
Multiplayer battles look like fucking shit even compared to SwSh, the hell are you on about

>>734063351
>roguelite
I hope they die.

>>734064208
>pokemon is just a title and character design
might as well buy a picture book instead of a game faggot

>>734064273
I guess any game where you recruit or collect stuff is pokemon in your head. Gran Turismo is pokemon. Sometimes in AOE campaign you find other units that join you, you can even make a
Monks and collect units from other teams, guess thats pokemon also

>>734064403
Deny it all you want but there’s a reason those franchises two have so much overlap, fire emblem is simple a natural successor to the Pokemon formula. Hell you can even go on YouTube and pick a random “poke tuber” of your choice and I can guarantee you if there’s any other game featured on their channel it’s fire emblem

>>734064328
>I never understood why this was controversial, do people really want a single game with 1000+ monsters to collect?
Yes, what a stupid question. Most people never even caught them all back when there were only 150(+1) and that didn't stop more from being made. This is the same logic that gets you barebones games with nothing to do in the world after the Pokémon League.

>>734064328
nta but yes, people playing collectathon games do in fact want more things to collect.

especially when pokemon home is a thing so you can get everything in a single game instead of needing to buy other shit to finish your dex.

>>734064242
They don't really look like Pokémon to me, not anymore than Digimon do.

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>>734058901
>it worked
It didn't though i still hate it

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>mediocrity
Pokemon has world-class hebe designs thoughbeit

>>734064515
Deny what? You are insinuating that any game that has recruitment and/or collection mechanics is pokemon

>>734057964
Similar to when you point out flaws in translation for any games. First is selection bias. Poor quality turns a lot of people off so the people that remain either like poor quality or are able to find diamonds in the rough, enjoyment despite the poor quality. For the latter group the concept that a game is/could be better is purely a boon. For the former, it's an attack on their identity. They actually like whatever stupid bullshit the game had, somehow coped that it makes the game unique or some shit, and so the idea that a game could be better means that they experienced the "wrong" version of the game. No one likes the idea that what they enjoyed personally was inferior, or shouldn't exists.

>>734064515
Collecting has nothing to do with it, Shiningfags had jrpgs and srpgs. Final Fantasyfags have jrpgs and srpgs, there's even a P5 srpg.

RPGfags like RPG games, the only connection between Pokemon and Fire Emblem are that they're Nintendo exclusives, but even then the average Fire Emblem enjoyer would be more aligned with the Advanced Wars series than Pokemon.

Does anyone have the Vaporeon copy pasta with ghe Oblivion guy?I just remembered it existed

>>734064810
And the fact the game is geared to 12byear olds, they know they have a strong adult audience so they constantly draw their female 12 year olds to look 16/18. If it wasnt for thr fact most adults were killed in some massive war, id question why adults allow this behavior at all

>>734057964
They have been conditioned to accept mediocrity from the start.

>>734065021
>>734064824
There’s three groups of people that play Pokemon;
Children
Children that grow up and want a nostalgic experience but can’t admit that they’re older
Children that grow up and want a better version of what they liked as a kid
First two groups will just always buy Pokemon, third group moves onto fire emblem because they want a tactical experience that isn’t based around cute monsters
I’m not saying that they’re the same game, I’m saying that if you’re a grown ass man that wants a “better Pokemon experience” then you naturally move on to fire emblem.
If you want a mindless collectathon or pretend like you want a “mature Pokemon game” when it’s clearly a children’s series and you can’t admit that what you really want is to be 9 years old staying up til 10:30pm with a gba a copy of emerald and a wormlight then you simply just fall into the former 2 categories

>>734059386
stop leaking gen 10 pokemon names

>>734064386
>The palworld discussions have basically proved that they know nothing about video games beyond pokemon.
You retarded? Palworld proved that people who hate Pokemon have never played it in their lives. They genuinely think Palworld is a Pokemon game despite being a shitty Arc clone.

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>>734058329
>no idea why no one else has bothered to copy this formula
Many have, but it's also why you likely never heard of them. Fuck the first Beyblade game uses Pokemon as inspiration and it's been openly admitted that Tyson and Kai were modeled after Red and Green (Blue) and having Beyblades themselves basically being Pokemon with tops having elementals, multiple monsters to pick from and raise, and being allowed to carry up to 6 beyblades at a time.

Here's the thing you have to understand, Pokemon did this shit first and capitalized on it hard and fast. There was no other video game, none whatsoever, that did what Pokemon allowed you to do in the mid to late 90s at the time of its release. Go on an RPG journey, collect monsters, train them, watch them grow, trade and battle them with your friends at the drop of a hat (provided you had a link cable)? The closest thing to that was Tomagatchi and Digimon and those devices were cheap tiger electronics tier shit compared to a whole ass adventure on your gameboy.

Another issue is most of the pokemon inspired imitations are either indie or made by smaller studios who don't have the name, resources, influence, or reach that Pokemon does and they never will.

>>734065268
SMT is closer to "Pokemon for adults", even Persona is. You're talking just in the scope of people that are tied to the hip to Nintendo ecosystem but even then, SMT is also tied to Nintendo hardware and Persona games are on the Switch now.

Even then, nu Fire Emblem is nothing like how the series used to be when it was known as the "hardcore" Nintendo franchise back in the SNES/GC/GBA days. Fire Emblem is simply the game that people buy because the characters are in Smash. It's tendiecore, in that it's the Nintendo fanboy choice.

>>734064328
more pokemon = better

I thought it fucking sucked when ruby sapphire cut 100 pokemon. A Pokemon series that strives to become bigger and better over time would have been much better than the tiny budget shovelware releases attitude that is more typical of their output. We're literally talking about the most revenue-generating IP that has ever existed, it's crazy that they're making so few games and all the games they do make are cheap, low quality trash

>>734064810
just call them lolis you fucking faggot

>>734065463
lol. Pokemon fans were making the exact opposite argument that it's only a pokemon clone so it's funny you'd say that.

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>>734065268
I want a monster collecting game that isnt geared to children, simple as that, if pokemon gave me that I would play it, if something wlse gave me that I would play it. FE is fun in its own way, but I also played one FE and that was three houses, outside of Pokemon I hardly play Nintendo games at all.

>>734065874
fucking kek

>>734064391
That's like, your opinion man

i havent bought a mainline pokemon since s&m and i returned it
i stick to romhacks and fangames which scratch the itch instead. don't even play tcg online anymore since i cant buy physical cards.

>>734061883
(X) Doubt

>>734059027
https://youtu.be/NU040CTdJI0?si=6f5YhMcdsE0Yyvoj
https://youtu.be/dY58m46-6WE?si=a6tDh_k2qiM3_tuW

>>734065021
>>734065268
i wan to say i hated what Fire emblem became went to advance wars, when that failed i never looked back at fire emblem. Pokemon was always shit after gen 6 and you could tell because that game is half finished (Sun and moon is worse)

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>>734057964
because despite the catastrophic junk they keep releasing, their customers still get entertainment out of it.
it's unironically a nostalgia snowball that keeps feeding into their fans' children. gamefreak unironically fucking won the market race. do you question coca-cola drinkers for drinking garbage? fast food havers? shit music fans?
the only "valid" action against mainstream culture being "hiding in a fucking corner of the internet and crying like a fucking baby" should tell you that these movements are pretty fucking huge and moved by more than just "lol fan". people unironically base their lifestyles around gaslighting people towards or against pokemon simply because "big popular", ignoring all the aspects of the series, which is exactly what you're doing right now. this is how base humans are.

plus they can't improve the games because that would mean more spotlight for waifumons and little jimmy will start asking questions about that guy holding hands with a gardevoir or something and you know how well adjusted adult people fucking crumbles when they see government unsanctioned sexuality expressions.

>>734061883
Lol no, pokemon is a manchildren franchise.

>>734063823
>this sold almost 30 million units
Pokefags aren't human.

>>734057964
what fandom DOESNT accept mediocrity? that's what being a "fan" is, apparently

>>734057964
It doesn't matter if you're a kid wanting to have funny monster to catch
Or an uncle who hits you with his game cube for beating him in halo
Or some Disney adult type of fucker with too much money
Or a porn addict in his 30's
Or someone with a paraphiliac disorder for crawling through intestines
Or an asexual video essayist lady
Or a tumblr autist safe enough to gaslight you about this franchise having speculative evolution
Or an autist screeching about their dimension merging end times
Pokemons infest your brain all the same
Like microplastics and that one song

>>734067335
Sonic fans and 343i halo fans as they accept flatout shit

>>734067581
Cool 2010 youtube opinion, dude.
Too bad us SonicGods have been eating great for the past six years.

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>>734067581
at least there is somewhat of a good fanmade games in sonic fandom even if some of them look gay they take effort
what has pokemon fans produced other than porn? like, pokemon uranium? can't really think of a high value fangame if it isn't taken down immediately

>>734067825
Any at a AM2R level of quality?

The Pokemon "fanbase" is composed of furries who want to fuck dogs, 9 year olds and 30-something milennials desperate to recapture the feeling of being a 9 year old. None of these groups have the capacity for self-reflection and proper judgment of quality

>>734067958
>furries who want to fuck dogs
Yeah we know there are women who play this don't need to remind us

>>734067712
Halo has gone so fucked I have found more enjoyment from the axis of rainworld, ultrakill and look outside these days
My 2010 self never would have anticipated that

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memes and porn

>>734064810
>Nintendo fans being pedos
What a shock.

>>734068178
Goonified fandom

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You will never get it because you're a contrarian faggot who love to shit on everything just because.
Pokemon games are about the trainers and monster designs, wich is how they spend 90% of their development budget.
Retarded "gamers" just beat the games and call it a day, actual pokemon fans spent 500~1000 hours per generation actually playing the games, that why you will never understand them.

>>734068461
They really need to try more stuff if this is their only game franchise
Like just so their neurons don't starve

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>>734068461
Real gamers play THIS for 1000 hours?

>>734068553
Wow nice emulator video anon, did you record it yourself? Is your toaster not being able to emulate a 2017 console?

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>>734068604
XD

>>734068537
There is this "comfy" feel to pokemon games that not many other games share. They probably play other games but having a "spent thousand hours" sink game is difficult, only factorio fans would compare

>>734068178
>pokemon ww
eww i hate it

>>734068664
You mean like fucking Minecraft
It's just one of those sorts of games people just try to have for a sense of cultural consensus

>>734068650
Wow a glitch on launch day, amazing did you have an entire folder with them saved just in case?

>>734065931
>I want a monster collecting game that isnt geared to children
you won't ever get that
>games must appeal to (((modern, global, casual audiences)))
>adults play skinnerbox-filled garbage like cowadoody and sportsball garbage
>a good chunk of adults hate video-gamey games
>monster collecting is basically cockfighting. you can't seriously come up with a plot that justifies making critters fight to exhaustion/death. closest you can do is summoning spirits persona-style or subjugating demons smt-style. former is basically corny highschool drama simulator and the latter is super edgy
>the west hates cutesy, cartoony media for adults, because if it looks like disney or looney tunes, then it MUST be for kids period, and all-ages means lobotomized like peppa pig or backyardigans
it's incompatible with mass appeal, so only kiddy stuff remains

>>734068826
That's the thing, I said "comfy" and you though of minecraft but every gamer have their own "comfy" kind of game they pour thousand hours in them. For me its PumpItUp

>>734068650
>post emulator footage
>proceeds to post a full online lobby of story mode desyncing
Wow, how original. Whats next, running SV on a calculator?

>>734068664
It is. I thought having 200 hours in ultrakill was crazy but then I saw the time someone spends in factorio and realized that was nothing

>>734068912
>online lobby glitching out
so you admit the game is a glitchfest? great, thank you for your concession

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>>734068650
>>734068553
thats nothing

>>734069021
You're welcome anon!

>>734069046
kek, we know, fans usually rush thru the story just to start enjoying the pokemon post-game, be shiny hunting, collecting, breeding, battling, 100%, etc

>>734057964
>Mediocrity
Then explain to us what would be good that does not involve graphics, """"""""""""""difficulty""""""""""""""""", forcing us to use shitmon, or a retarded story where a caveman says I HAVE AN OPINION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>>734069178
The fuck story is there to tell?
I just don't get why humans are immune to pokeball capture if all a Pokemon is actually is another word for animal like the Zoomies seething about glaceonwife think.

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I simply stop buying things when the quality starts seriously degrading, I don't cling to a product just because it once held value in the past.

Why can't these people do the same?

>>734063351
>humanoid slop
>that disgusting artstyle for both monsters and characters
abysmal dogshit

>>734068104
Astounding how Animal Crossing is carried by the very same group.

>>734069649
>The fuck story is there to tell?
Do you have mental retardation or something? I just say people just rush thru the main story AKA skipping it just to unlock everything you need in post-game. This imply the story is shit if you didn't get it.

>>734063567
Well it changed in gen 3 and 4 and people hated it to the point where they literally remade gen 1.
And people hated that because it was a dollar store version of gen 1.
So they came to their senses and realized what people wanted was to have a shit ton of pokemon available and have more trading and battling, so they made gen 6.
Then for some reason they decided to throw that away in gen 7 with a bad battle gimmick and worse pokemon.
Then they decided they wanted to kill the pokedex in gen 8 and people hated it and also had a bad gimmick.
Then they came to their senses again in gen 9 and made sure that there was a ton of pokemon available, better trading, better battling, better gimmick, better dlc, better multiplayer, and better ways to build up competitive teams.
The experience trumps everything.

>>734060231
>better they do that than simplify the logo into something that looks like shit
Japan doesn't have this problem. Ask them how they do it.

>>734069792
You have retardation, I was agreeing with you lotso.

>>734060173
Americans are too stupid to read and are insanely afraid of change.

>>734058017
That would be GTA

>>734057964
>Why do their fans just accept mediocrity?
Decades of conditioning

>>734057964
did you see the underwater shots? it's kino

>>734057964
Pokemania hit them hard during a critical formation period in their childhoods

>>734065485
this is not the same concept
it's just kids having a toy each that they speak to
it's retarded
same reason why bakugan never took off
pokemon works because it's a world full of monsters that mostly resemble real life animals, and giving the player unlimited capability to capture any mons they want
developers need to stop being retarded and just copy pokemon's concept but change the way they capture those, that's literally it
roco kingdom literally copies pokemon, the only difference being it's some kind of a magical fantasy world with a hogwarts style school instead of pokemon's more casual and modern setting

>>734069660
because you either tolerate the slop or get nothing, and people can't stand nothing

>>734070026
How many active fans are even left that were kids during Pokemania?

>>734065485
>beyblade did this
problem is even if they summon monsters, they're spinning tops bumping into each other at the end of the day, which is lame
imagine how lame pokemon would be if it were just rolling pokeballs on a circular arena super monkey ball style

>>734069046
Monster Hunter stories on the 3DS mogs both

>>734070264
Imagine if it were just cards

>>734068461
Nice cope

>>734068604
>>734068832
https://youtu.be/iO3BFuJYTq8?si=UiRvegpErfkllTno

>>734069178
>can't defend the animation
You kneeled.

>>734065485
>smt
>dq 5
>dq monsters
>Digimon world

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because their "attempting to do better" results in Gen V, ZA, or LGPE, which are absolutely abyssal dogshit.

>>734071002
that's a tcg, not a monster-collecting rpg

this is the only monster collector so far that gives off the same feel as pokemon
youtube.com/watch?v=mlZB2yEiJFA
youtube.com/watch?v=MqTSjDIxKi0
youtube.com/watch?v=cflVncFBJDY
it's not gacha btw

>>734057964
It makes them feel good and that's all that matters to these people. Acknowledging how the series quality's decline means they might damage how good that feeling makes them feel so most Pokemon fans will never acknowledge it.

Combine that with how most Pokemon fans don't even play the mainline games anymore. Some dip in every once in a while or stick to spin offs and mobile games. Most will only buy the plushies, the cards, and other merch so it means they will never even have to engage with how shit it has become in the first place.

>>734071403
another recent trailer
youtube.com/watch?v=aJnSFxmfFgI
feels very similar to pokemon
if you swapped out the setting for a more urban environment, people would confuse this for pokemon

>>734069046
>omegamon
>again
I'm tired boss.. can we move on?

>>734071760
Well maybe they should make new digimon that are
you know
actually fucking good?
digimon could make an insane amount of hot chicks and yet it REFUSES
REFUSES
to do that one simple thing

>>734071996
>digimon could make an insane amount of hot chicks and yet it REFUSES
but... they are...

>>734071280
They have a thousand of them to animate
With dozens of moves each
Please understand

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>>734071996
you forget that we should be allowed to fuck all the hot women Digimon too, like Minervamon Antibody X

>>734071996
I've given up on digimon romance/dating. palworld is the only hope left. hopefully they'll deliver something for this april fools'

>>734072271
I still find it funny how they let you arm them and make them work in the mines
Add textile mills to sell clothes with and then I can be like a third world country warlord but with a personal army of pals

>>734057964
>fanbase has been made up of aging millennials for more than a decade
>30+ year old sóy lords in the USA make up the vast majority of TPCi’s merch revenue
>they still make games aimed at 2 year olds
lol. Not saying I want blood and death in Pokemon, but the Pokopia tree house felt like it was geared to toddlers. Guarantee that no one younger than 20 was watching the stream

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>>734072530
>find it funny how they let you arm them and make them work in the mines
it's the logical conclusion of any world with intelligent monsters. pokemon just stopped at cockfighting for PR reasons
>Add textile mills
drawn together beat them to the punch over 20 years ago

>>734068832
Look at that goalpost go!

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>>734072705
>geared to toddler
nintendo has been trying to break into the toddler market for a while now. gotta brainwash 'em young

>>734071996
They're good when you don't have any bias for the first season
Digimon never lost it, the new designs look different from the earlier ones but they're not bad
inb4 someone tries to counter argue with an Appmon

>>734072705
They should make a gritty Pokemon themed spinoff aimed at teens at the very least. Leave the main games all ages but branch out the IP a bit, if GameFreak was more willing to let others use the IP then this probably would have happened by now.

>>734072905
I forget drawn together was a thing sometimes

>>734073142
All toys and franchises aimed at kids are groomer coded by default

>>734057964
>Why do their fans just accept mediocrity?
Why do the critics?
The entire reason /v/ despises Pokemon is due to believing the series fell off after Gen 5. If you criticize Gen 5 it's suddenly the Gamefreak hater like you that starts slurping Masuda's balls hard.

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Every single actual Pokemon fan I've spoken to is completely reasonable, recognises the flaws with the modern games, and the entire fanbase universally agrees they want to see them do better.

90% of people complaining about "Pokemon fans" will call you a "bootlicker" three seconds into the conversation if you express a remotely positive opinion on a game that there is a very real chance they haven't even actually played.

There is one side of this that is sane and one that isn't.

>>734073975
/vp/ exists, do you really think you're fooling anyone?

>>734072181
And only about 100 or less each gen.

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>>734063935
I'm not too worried about performance since they seem to be giving games more time in the oven to prevent another SV launch fiasco. Plus ZA and the switch 2 update of SV both run fine, though of course the latter still looks like shit.

>>734073975
The posts here say otherwise.
>>734073967
>strawman

>>734069660
Because they do not deem the quality to have dropped. Outside of the, yes, very bad visuals in Scarlet and Violet, it's a good game mechanically and a twist on the usual formula by having open progression.

>>734074013
Are you implying that /vp/ does not have criticisms of the modern Pokemon games? That's an utterly absurd statement that someone would only hold if they've never been to /vp/ in their life.

Like I'm genuinely confused by your response. What.

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>>734071996
>they should make new digimon that are
>you know
>actually fucking good?
you have plenty faggot. it's your fault that you live under a rock

>>734073975
Which fans
Does Pokémon really even have a single coherent “fan base”? It’s at that scale where you can stumble on whole communities worth of people who do niche fetish RP decked with a whole custom lore setup for their OCs based on a spin off game.

>>734057964
BeCaUsE iT'S hEcKiN pOkÉmOn! GoTtA hAvE mY pOkÉmOn!

>>734073903
all ages used to mean all ages, geared at toddlers. you used to have characters drowning their sorrows, playing poker, going to cavarets, etc., in the looney tunes. nowadays you can't even have characters skating without knee, elbow, and shoulder pads
>groomer-coded
zoomer brainrot buzzwords

>>734074215
i should have quoted the "completely reasonable" part, my bad.

>>734074263
Like whole communities dedicated to inflating Pokémon big and round with years long running OCs and thousands in comm money spent to depict it
And this is like one fucking cranny of it all
How far does the fucking web go?
Can the human mind even process it?

>>734074263
>It’s at that scale where you can stumble on whole communities worth of people who do niche fetish RP decked with a whole custom lore setup for their OCs based on a spin off game.
Average pokemon fan.

>>734069660
You can't have an honest discussion on Pokemon's quality here because it always devolves into one retard crying "yawnfag yawnfag yawnfag".

>>734074263
I mean you're not wrong in that Pokemon has plenty of subculture fanbases, but pretty much any associated with the main game are pretty up front with how they feel about the quality of things like SV, generally. /vp/ is rightfully critical of the modern games. Poketubers are rightfully critical of the modern games. Social media is too. The general fanbase that discusses the games is pretty open to discussion of their flaws.

>>734074370
Then fair, not gonna act like /vp/ is sane, but that's for different reasons. I don't think anyone who goes to /v/ is sane either, including myself, but hey.

4chan has changed. We are ALL buying FRLG on Switch. Oh, what's that? You're poor? Yeah, thought so. Buying ROMs is now considered the 4channiest thing you can do in 2026. Or would you rather buy woke DEI slop?

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>Adult Pokémon fans

>>734074448
What even is the average
I cant tell man
Like I don’t think the average sonic fan to be Chris chan yet the mind still visualizes that
People usually when they complain of fans are meaning very much the type who make it their personality, not just any rando doing it as a time killer or whatever

>>734059154
They do look like discount pals

What always gets me is the brand loyalty. You could take gen 10, release the game 1:1 before Nintendo does with another name and with all references to Pokemon removed and it would hardly get attention unless you pulled a Palworld and made it a parody. Meanwhile if you take any mediocre shit and slap an official Pokemon/Nintendo seal on it immediately thousands of retards are lining up to buy 16 copies of it.

>>734074565
>Like I don’t think the average sonic fan to be Chris chan yet the mind still visualizes that
The average Sonic fan is either a child which is the target audience, OR it's someone from a broken home who replaced the empty void in their development with Sonic.
Pokemon is much the same, but children and degenerates.

>>734074498
>The general fanbase that discusses the games is pretty open to discussion of their flaws.
NTA, but certain communities like reddit are more willing to have toxic positivity towards the franchise. There's a toxic positivity mindset brewing in the Nintendo communities in general recently, presumably as a pushback to all the perceived "grifters" making content negatives towards Nintendo.

Really, it depends where you're browsing. I remember some anon linked a Resetera thread for Pokopia the other day after the treehouse presentation and everyone jumped on a guy saying that it didn't look good and that it wasn't for him.

>>734074615
That's a lot of words to say "I can't believe people buy things from a brand they recognise and like"

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>>734057964
They like the Pokémon so much that they're willing to eat literal shit to interact with them
But they don't want to believe/admit that they're eating shit/wasted money on shit, so they come up with excuses to justify their horrible decisions as a means to cope
Same as how gachatards delude themselves into believing that throwing thousands of dollars at pixels is a good thing

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>>734066170
It's objectively true, the arena and NPC crowd is lame, and Doubles ran even worse than they did in Gens 7 and 8. Switch 2 improving the performance years after the fact isn't anything to write home about either.

>>734057964
>Why does wanting gamefreak to do better offend them so?
Because I hate gamefreak and want them to suffer.

>>734074615
Consumerism and branding is a thing across all industries, like why do you think you get people willing to shell out 400 dollars for a branded shirt when any shirt can do the job of a shirt just as well? You can say status but it is also just brand loyalty and brands act as a convenient mental default that is easier to go for than gambling on something new, of which also has the issue other people will be absent from it because they didn’t also make said switch. Single player games have this issue less for obvious reasons but Pokémon has the whole trading activity aspect that makes a switch a harder sell. It is also why FPS games all consolidated mechanically, players would refuse to play games where their skills in one game wouldn’t transfer to another.

>>734074773
More to say "I can't believe people are willing to eat literal shit because it has a logo they recognize on it".

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>>734061883
>mostly

>>734074746
Isn’t this a general Nintendo issue?
Metroid fans are one of the only ones with a semblance of standards from what I can tell with how they chimped out against federation force, other M and recently, prime 4. And that franchise happens to be a bit of a black sheep for Nintendo,

x rated Pokémon sex with misty

>>734074746
I can't speak on Reddit specifically, as I don't use it, but I do use social media outside 4chan and I do follow multiple fan-run Pokemon podcasts and youtubers. And by that I mean the ones that actually like the games and make generally positive content (shiny hunters, comp players) and so aren't "hategrifters", and they're all pretty reasonable in their takes on the modern games (SVs performance and visuals being ass, LZAs map being too samey etc.)

I'm sure some pockets are uncritical, but surely that's unavoidable in any large fanbase.

>>734074918
To be fair, this is more representative of Legos marketing than Pokemons marketing. Lego has hard pivoted to being an adult collectors brand in recent years.

Pokemon does the same to some degree but its marketing is usually a hell of a lot more balanced than this.

>>734075014
Maybe I’m wrong on this, maybe it is just that sci-fi games get people who bitch about stuff more because sci-fi people tend to bitch a lot.

>>734073975
I hate this Marnie image because it's attached to a retarded opinion or unverifiable anecdote without fail

>>734064142
Have you seen AAA games?

>>734057964
tell me a real alternative that plays like pokemon that is actually better
pro tip, you can't

>>734065931
Try SMT?

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>>734074498
PMD's fanbase split is hilarious
>roleplaying isekai escapism fags infatuated with escaping their shitty, meaningless lives and pokefuckers who think they'd be in paradise
>MD fans who who like MD games and are fed up with pokefags who don't give a shit about gameplay and dismiss other games without even trying them
>embittered rescue/exploration team fags who will never forgive tpc for changing the old formula and refuse to accept its flaws (iq grind for every new member sucks dick)
it's as disjointed as it can get

>>734075142
They can’t compete against a franchise that has infested the brains of a hundred million millennials
It is like trying to upend marvel or DC at this point

>>734070043
>it's just kids having a toy each that they speak to
Yeah and those happened AFTER the initial beyblade games released and they started following the anime more. But the very first installments of Beyblade were very similar to Pokemon in terms of raising beasts and having various elements to pick from like fire, water, etc. It didn't branch into its own thing until the anime started.

>>734071353
>lists a slew of games that weren't on Gameboy and were instead on consoles so therefore couldn't be played in a car or at school unlike Pokemon
My dude, I think you may be retarded.

>>734075014
>Isn’t this a general Nintendo issue?
Yeah, and it appears to be getting worse with time. The more pushback Nintendo gets, the more fervent they defend everything. I've seen people defending the new XCX patch. Metroid is the only series where the fans are more critical like you said but it's also the genre with the most alternatives, Metroidvania games are a dime a dozen.

>>734075026
I mean just recently you had tons of people running defense for the $20 for FR and LG. Granted, you also had tons and tons of people getting upset about it. I think the defenders stick out just because they start defending things that are very egregious about the franchise(like SV's performance) and they're often arguing against more level headed fans that are calling out the franchise because they want it to be better.

The only exception I can think of is the Mega Dimensions DLC, I'm not sure I've seen a single positive sentiment about it other than the usual crowd liking Ansha a bit too much.

>largest media franchise in history has drones
This is just expected. Too bad they'll never know Pokemon when it was actually good.

>>734075217
have you played either games?
other than being a "monster collector" smt isn't anything like pokemon

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>>734075130
They have all the same bugs and enshittification but either look or perform better, Pokémon SV had to compromise on either visuals or performance to look and run well but failed completely at both.

>>734075235
Weird how PMD dropped off just as Pokéfucking became more mainstream with Vaporeon memes and smash/pass. PMD was sating and holding back the horny.

>>734075142
Monster Hunter's monsters are the most boring shit imaginable. Just dinosaurs and dragons. Wake me up when Crapcom creates its equivalent of Gardevoir.

>>734061957
They should have done this well ten years ago. Now they're still 10 years behind, so no, they're not doing better.

>>734057964
>blanket statement that most disagree with
wow cool thread you got here

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>another pokemon seethe thread
Beautiful, winning feels so good bros.

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>>734075368
I think call Monster Hunter a Pokémon killer is like calling a nuke a rat killer. Like sure, if it kills Pokémon, whatever, it's a hundred times the better game regardless.

>>734075142
Pokemon's success is a once in a lifetime miracle
No one will be able to compete with it, not because those other monster taming series are bad, but just because they aren't Pokemon
Pokemon fans don't want games that aren't Pokemon

>>734075430
What are you winning?

>>734057964
>Pokemon is mediocre!!
>"Ok, what game should I play instead then?"
>Play [Digislop that does all the things I screech about Pokemon doing]!

>>734075516
His imaginary shower arguments

>>734075304
>I mean just recently you had tons of people running defense for the $20 for FR and LG.
You have to understand that these things are reactions. The moment that price was revealed, there were a thousand posts of "dude you know you can just emulate that shit on your phone". Which on paper sounds reasonable, but it's also something literally everyone knows and is missing the point in the first place, and is repeated constantly by people who want a cheap dunk.

I personally bought FireRed because I specifically wanted to play it on my Switch 2 and I like Home transfer from classic games as it leads me to being able to keep things even when replaying them which makes replaying them more interesting (for example, I played a lot of Crystal on 3DS and ended that playthrough by shiny hunting GS Ball Celebi). I fully intend to shiny hunt Deoxys at the end of this playthrough.

Do I think $20 is overpriced? Yes, absolutely. Do I think that the fifty thousand people repeating that you can emulate it are missing the point of the release for most of the intended audience and are generally a nuisance to discussion attempting to get cheap dunks by saying something everyone already knows? Also yes.

>>734075496
>No one will be able to compete with it, not because those other monster taming series are bad, but just because they aren't Pokemon
okay which ones are actually good and are actually like pokemon beyond being a monster collector?

>>734075142
pokemon competitors will never have that je ne sais quois

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>>734075516
Everything. Pokemon remains popular, has a ton of fans, it will never go away and I will continue to be happy and enjoy playing them.
Meanwhile you keep making threads getting angry, desperate, anxious and sad. This also makes me happy. It's literally a win/win for me, nothing bad really happens, only bad things for you though. This is what being a pokemon fan feels like, happiness.

>>734075368
lol ok poketard, let's take a look at your ice cream, bags of trash, sludge puddles, magnets, and keys

>>734075719
You still didn't say what you won. Gamefreak is the one making money off the games, you're still getting nothing by them being popular and selling well. Is this another "we" cope?

>>734075812
>>734075368
Genuinely the stupidest fucking discussion I've seen, both of you two are retarded. The two franchises are obviously going for wildly different fucking designs and concepts and gameplay contexts. I fucking hate this website so much, you are both clearly fucking incapable of actual thought jesus fucking christ

>>734075812
>>734075884
You can have generic dragon...or you can have CHARIZARD. which ignites more feels? I will just never give a fuck about any of the monster hunter creatures the same way I will about my favorite pokemon.

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>>734057964
I haven't purchased a Pokemon since X & Y on the 3DS but the trailer for Winds/Waves looks like it has finally reached the gamecube generation in terms of graphics so I'm slightly curious if it will be worth buying used at a deep discount in 2032.
The best Pokemon game of all time is on Steam but sadly it is in (((Early Access))) so I haven't bought it yet. The demo was incredible though so I can't wait for the 1.0 release: https://store.steampowered.com/app/2288470/Aethermancer/
Gamefreak is going to have to meet or exceed the quality of the combat and visuals here for me to ever consider buying their games again.

>>734075923
even shitty ass Rathalos has more soul and character than slopizard, this is genuinely pathetic

>>734075340
PMD didn't hold it back, it enabled it by giving a canon where they very much are talking and intelligent and like all of them too

>>734075235
>MD fans who who like MD games and are fed up with pokefags who don't give a shit about gameplay and dismiss other games without even trying them
>embittered rescue/exploration team fags who will never forgive tpc for changing the old formula and refuse to accept its flaws (iq grind for every new member sucks dick)
both of these are me but idgaf if people like PMD or not, simply liking any game post gen-7 or being a genwunner is enough for me to label someone as having abysmal taste
also iq grind was fine, it gave you a reason to keep farming gummis which in turn made you focus different dungeons
also spinda's café made it better which is why Sky yet again is the best PMD game

>>734075142
>It doesn't have as good of a gameplay loop or a formula
>It doesn't have good mechanics
Underrated criticisms. A lot of the alternatives tend to be pointlessly annoying in their own ways, maybe because they're forced to since Pokemon already grabbed up everything.

>>734075625
The reactions are often overreactions so more valid criticisms get brushed off by people that get overly invested in defending things. In the case of FR/LG was that Wii U GBA games were only $8 so there's a very high premium attached to the Pokemon brand.

I view it the same was as I view World of Warcraft players, where they're now paying a $40 premium for 5 days of early access. Expansions are now $90 for them and they will all pay it and the companies know they'll pay it even though it's so overpriced. I think the commonality between WoW and Pokemon being overpriced is that both are games with a heavy sense of community where if your friends are buying the new one, you don't want to be left behind. You want to talk about it with them, you want to play with them, and that plays into FOMO. Both are also games that people have as their "main" game, there are people that mostly play Pokemon if not only play Pokemon between romhacks, nuzlockes, shiny farming, etc. Pokemon is a lifestyle game, just like WoW. So it gets a heavy premium tacked on that many are very willing to pay because that's "their game". They will be playing FR/LG and doing nuzlockes for months. That's well worth the price of admission.

>>734075719
Rich corpo stays rich
Ok
But you, what do you win out of that?

>>734075923
>You can have generic dragon...or you can have another generic dragon
Alright
You know that it being famous and you being attached to it doesn't make it less generic?

>>734076184
>also iq grind was fine
no speedup in the post-game was aids. 200 favorite gummis (100 in best case, e.g. purple to grass/poison type) to reach the cap. 120 (66 in best case) to get trap seer

>>734077293
yea but pokemon has the pokemon. which automatically wins.

>>734075884
>>734075983
charizard is huggable. rathalos not really. that's a huge minus in anyone's book

Just got through Mt Moon in LG. Who should I give the mega kick and mega punch to? Or should I hold it for someone specific?
Ivysaur-zubat-butterfree-nidoran-geodude-mankey

>>734077767
just wondering why are (non-reobtainable) TMs single use? who in their right mind thought this was ok?

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>>734077616
Well, for MH fans, it's the exact same for the Rathalos
Nothing's generic when you're into it enough; your point is retarded
I'm not the biggest MH fans, but I played them a nice amount of time and grew attached to some of the designs (picrel is my favorite, it's not a generic dragon but still, would have never known about it if I didn't got past those), despite thinking the same thing as you before giving those games a shot

>>734075927
As a nu-Pokémon hater that held out hope that Sun and Moon would be kind of mechanical and performance step up that Black and White were to Diamond and Pearl, I'll be generous and say that Winds and Waves are actually looking closer to a mid-level Wii U title, which is fine for once.

>>734077918
you can show him Brachydios, Agnaktor, Gigginox, Rajang, Ceanataur, or any of the fully unique monsters and he won't care; pokesloppers have Indian level iq

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>>734077672
In Monster Hunter they're not really meant to be your friends
And when they are, like in the Monster Hunter Stories games, they're redesigned to look more friendly and huggable
Silly little guys when it's needed, badass monsters outside of that, the best of both worlds

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>>734057964
>mediocrity
It looks good now. You lost.

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>>734058329
>no idea why no one else has bothered to copy this formula

>>734064328
>I never understood why this was controversial
because you are a boot licking retarded tranny

>>734068461
It makes me sick, I remember asking a vtuber what their favorite video game is and being mortified when they answered back Pokemon.

>>734073975
So you do in fact lick the boots

>>734078289
>It looks good now
>It doesn't

Tendies will never break their curse of slavery

>>734075719
players get happiness nintendo gets money. haters will keep seething

>>734068553
How come Cyberpunk discourse has moved past the day 1 glitches but Pokefags still think SV is in this state?

>>734079968
Because even pokefags know it won't get better no matter how much they complain

>>734078289
The water looks alright but the rest looks just as shit as gen 9, we just haven't seen the empty plains yet but just pause at moments that aren't just water like that forest area and you'll see that absolutely nothing improved
The whole trailer was "look at the cool water and those Pokemon close ups, don't look at the backgrounds, look at them" because it's apparently where all the graphical improvements went
You may think that it's disingenuous because I'm asking you to pause a trailer, but if you're playing the game you won't have fancy camera angles, Pokemon models right in front of your face, and the camera changing places every 2 seconds
Gen 10 will be another successful cheap cash grab as they all are since a decade

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Why pokeniggerd keep spamming their crap here instead of staying on their containment board?

>>734079968
Because your game isn't Cyberpunk.

Cyberpunk glitches are funny because it's such a big, complex game where everything can break. SV glitches are just sad. Here's a game that doesn't have the complexity of a final fantasy game on the DS but still manages to have the most ridiculous bugs imaginable.

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>>734080056
>but the rest looks just as shit as gen 9
Why lie when we can see with our own eyes that's literally not the case?

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>>734079968
Because Cyberpunk isn't a 100.000.000.000 dollar franchise owned by a trillion dollar console maker.
There is no excuse for this.

>>734058329
>I haven't played any monster taming game series that isn't Pokemon despite sperging out about the genre
Nice of you to admit it
Literally half the genre is about collecting monsters, fighting others, defeating some form of evil team or a bad guy or at least about becoming the strongest or shit like that
Just look at stuff like DMQ/DQMJ, Spectrobes, Digimon Story, Coromon or Nexomon (and all the other more recent indie games of the genre that stay very close to Pokemon)
All of those have some form of evil team/guy to beat, are about getting stronger to beat others (maybe not that much for Spectrobes, for the first game at least) and collecting monsters
The Pokemon formula is the rule, not the exception
Monster taming games are either vpets, Pokemon inspired or SMT inspired (they can also be multiple or all of those but they always get in at least one of those categories)

>>734080458
>cyberpunk was made by a small indie company
Cope.

>>734080372
>literally not the case
Say that when the game is actually out

Palworld won

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>>734080372
Dude, just that rock/dirt that the character is on, that texture looks like dogshit
And the screenshot you decided to show is mostly water, but look at this one that I got
I literally don't care if you show me a screenshot showcasing how it does look worse in gen 9, the point is that it still looks like shit

>>734080535
Yes, CDPR is literally an indie dev.

>>734080372
I see the textures haven't changed 1 bit
Now to see if the horrible pop ins make a comeback as well