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Try lowering prices to $40 and watch the results
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>>734089927
>63% of US Gamers Buy Two Games or Fewer Per Year
>only 4% of US video game players buy a new game more often than once per month
>With a third of players not buying any games at all.
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>>734089927
no they'd rather try to turn more people into no kid fags with more free cash.
yes that means many very stupid leftists are supporting out of control capitalism that's at the point of grooming its own customers while railing against it.
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Roblox
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Stop playing with your old toys anon! The economy needs your money!
NOW!
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>>734091073
the licensing and subscription models these publishers use pretty much make piracy the only viable option of you want your shit to be yours. shouldn't have gotten so greedy, maybe people would buy more games if you're weren't paying $80 for a fucking license that can be revoked at any time and for any reason. the amount of greed in these companies is out of control
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>>734091168
This is the exact boat im in. There's literally nothing to play. No im not going to try the hundredth fucking metroidvania, nor the thousandth open world survival crafting sandbox. And certainly not bothering with the millionth fucking souls clone
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>price hike on luxury goods in the middle of a massive economic war/recession
>nevermind the proliferation of free/"free" games in the last decade or so already eating into sales as-is
>"wtf why aren't people buying it anymore?"
what exactly did they expect
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>AAA games are now designed by executives in boardrooms with profit-maximization as the top priority
>indie games designed by small, dedicated teams take forever to get released
Good thing I enjoy playing the same old games over and over again
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>>734090138
part of the issue is a new game has to snatch playtime from a gamer's current fav game or two. If you're already grinding away in some game you don't tend to stop and jump ship midstream. Least of all for an unknown new game at a full cost price point.
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>>734092106
I understand wanting things to stay true to your vision, but I don't understand why Eric Barone won't hire some help for the Haunted Chocolatier game. He just needs a team who is as passionate as he is.
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>it's because the price of AAA games went up by $10!
>no, it's because of [culture warrior buzzwords]!
>um actually it's because people aren't making enough of this extremely niche thing i like
You can tell that people here are isolated and cut off from the rest of the world.
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>PC is outdated
>can't buy new hardware because of AI
>can't run new games because of the ever increasing hardware requirement
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Have you ever interacted with anyone outside of /v/? People aren't playing traditional games anymore. They're playing live service games and mobile games. Kids no longer ask their parents for a new game for christmas, they ask for robux. Tons of people have one live service game they stick to and play nothing else. Over in asia, mobile games have completely taken over and kicked regular games out of the market. A fucking ten dollar price in the middle of historic inflation has nothing to do with any of this, the actual spending is up, not down. What's actually down is the number of people playing regular games instead of live service games.
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>>734092391
Anyone who still has a 10 year old PC just because it can play lol and overwtch etc and suddenly now they care about new games and have not saved up money in those 10 years to buy a new one deserves this.
I got a new PC after like 8 years. 1 year before the AI shitstorm.
I think i am fine for the next 7 years.
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>>734090138
>seeing this post puts you into that hyper enthusiast bucket
>the actions of you and your immediate cohort likely do not match those of the general gaming audience
We won, my fellow gooners. We won.
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>>734089927
>create the free to play GaaS model. where the most hardcore can get everything for free and the rest can pay to win.
>Surprised when the old model doesn't work anymore.
And then there are the retards who actually sell games at 70+tip and still wanna bleed the players with GaaS model shit. No wonder this industry is going to hell. Soon the AAAA industry will crash with no survivors and everything will be Free to Play Gaas.
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Because hobbies FUCKING SUCK NOW
>spend $70 for a 10 hour game
>want to buy a figure
>that will be 10k¥ to ship by boat
Literally better to just read spend 10-20 dollars on a book or go to your library for free fuck capitalism
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>>734092982
Figures are luxury goods.
Honestly the only reason I buy them is because most of the time the official translation is garbage and I want to support things I like without supporting parasites who give substandard product.
Games are supposed to be cost efficient though, modern ones are not.
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>>734092954
What the anime poster said
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>>734092954
Tried making music but couldn't make anything good for years, so it's back to vidya and conversing with my fellow intellectuals on /v/.
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>>734090138
NOOOOOOOOOO ENTHUSIASTS DON'T MATTER WE GOTTA SELL TO THE MODERN AUDIENCE NOOOOO
Though I'm sure this has to do more with labeling everyone who has ever breathed in the direction of digital media as a "gamer"
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Be honest with me /v/ are u part of the 4%?
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>Spend 70 dollars on a game
>Or spend 70$ to suck a hookers fat tits and get sucked off
Yeah I'm going with the hot piece of ass and tits. Games are too expensive now and hooker tits are too tasty and I like having my dick sucked
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>>734093345
Yes
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>>734089927
There's tons of lower budget games that cost $40 or less. But you don't buy them because they don't have a $300 million marketing budget. You want the AAA game that has a $500 million budget, but you don't want to pay for the marketing budget. Buy more medium budget games and the market will respond to that by making more medium budget games. Which will in turn lower costs.
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>>734089927
>Try lowering prices to $40
Games already do this on PC, the real problem is that purchasing a game no longer ends with the base price and the amount of non-cosmetic post-MSRP additional purchases has gotten out of hand.
Should also note that people can just play retro games, either pirated or for pennies on the dollar, and extract the same amount of enjoyment out of them, if not more, than they would have with the newest titles coming out these days.
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Why do they insist on counting non-game buyers as gamers in the first place?
They're literally not your market. Ignore them. Disregard everything they say.
The only people they should be listening to are neckbeards buying every new game that comes out.
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>>734093818
if you didn't count people who only play live service games then the market would suddenly seem tiny. /v/ doesn't realize that people who like traditional single-player games are a small minority nowadays
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>>734093921
They ARE a small minority!
That's how it's always been!
If you're a game dev, target the ten million actual hardcore gamers and ignore everyone else!
That means hot chicks, lolis, hard games, good gameplay loops, short dev cycles, and cutting out the culture war and censorship bullshit.
Publishers have got to stop targeting 100 million sales targets. That's absurd. Target a comfy one million sales, or even 100k. Make a good game FOR ME AND PEOPLE LIKE ME.
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>>734093889
>taking up everyone's attention
Among other things. There's only so much time in the day for leisure.
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>>734094316
Only Nintendo games are $80 and they're at the forefront of pushing game prices. Everyone else quietly backed off on $80 once they realize how hard it is to get people to buy their games at that price.
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>70 dollar vydia
>Tons of old franchises murdered or raped beyond recognition
>Everything takes to fucking long to develop
>Sometimes its shit when it actually comes out
>Small devs got priced out
>Portables don't exist anymore so there's no way to make some cheap stuff
>Even indies are getting stale
Gaming had a good run, but seeing what its become, it needs to die.
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>>734089927
fuck the economy copers, it doesnt matter, bread and circus will always be appealing
the issue is the circus now isnt appealing at all, on top of being quite a bit more expensive than it used to be
theyre asking you to pay premium for pure dogshit
ive barely played or pirated anything in years, i used to spend a lot and pirate even more, both are dead in the water now, the games are just shit and, even worse, entirely unappealing
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Why bother gaming when you can just scroll tiktok?
That's what /v/ does, just endlessly repost things from twitter instead of playing video games. Video games takes time and effort to play, it's just easier to gamble or scroll social media.
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>>734089927
>Devs start making low effort formulaic garbage based on statistics and trends instead of taking risks and making stuff with actual identities
>Turn activism to 100 and forego all subtlety and subtext
>Generic topics, generic characters, generic questing, generic looking world built of generic realistic assets and indistinguishable from other games
>Raise prices to 70
>Tell players they should get used to not owning their games and that the future is online services
>Cut costs by replacing humans with AI to ensure everything is even more derivative
Gee, i wonder what could it be...
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>>734089927
this doesn't surprise me in the slightest
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i play my classic backlog over and over again.
not even touching modern AAA shit which have a jeet stench on it.
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>>734093505
i PLAY a new game every month, as in i pirate them. When it comes to buying, usually its 3 - 5 in a year. I usually only buy denuvo games on sale, and i will add a few other cheap games to my cart alongside that, but thats pretty much it for the year.
I wonder if the people in OP's pic accounted for piracy.
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The amount of people in this thread complaining that the latest ass creed or whatever wasn't good is grim. When did this board get infested with so many casuals? /v/ should go back to being more gatekeepy and bully normalfags who are super concerned about the quality of the latest cawadooty.
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>>734093247
>I'm sure this has to do more with labeling everyone who has ever breathed in the direction of digital media as a "gamer"
this. the market is infinitesimal compared to what the kikes would like you to believe
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>brazil below india
lol. lmao even
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>>734092954
I would like to get into gunpla or lego, but i live with my parents so i can't. It would be too embarrassing.
And i can't live on my own because its way too expensive in canada.
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China won
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>>734092954
Binge watching drama shows. Way cheaper than games too.
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>>734093505
last year the only new games I bought were monster hunter wilds and silksong. I bought sandland for 20 dollars at a walmart when a friend told me about it, SMTIV apocalypse new in package for my slime 3ds new in box. Oh shit wait I bought a switch 2 DK bananza, air riders and pokemon ZA. Oh no.
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>play Chink and Gook gacha games
>tons of cute characters
>huge updates every ~6 weeks for FREE
>easily thousands of hours of content, again, for free
>actually optimized, easily runs at 120 fps with zero stutter or issues
>gameplay is serviceable; not as good as the best Japanese games but certainly better than AAA movie games
>no woke propaganda being shoved in my face
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>play AAA western slop
>$70 + early access tip + DLC that was intentionally cut from the release
>10 hours of content
>dogshit optimization on UE5
>gameplay is essentially holding forward while doing the occasional QTE
>every female character is either ugly, brown, a girlboss, or all three
>is made by a group of activists who literally hate me for being a normal heterosexual male
I mean it seems an obvious choice to me which one I'm going to play.
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>>734094026
Alot of adults play live service slop
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Idk man, the webm seems pretty soulful
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Another video game market crash would be a good thing
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>>734095670
No, he's right.
Hyper normie games like RDR 2, witcher 3, etc don't have better gameplay than Genshin. I would say that they are about on par with each other.
Which is why normies are ok with playing gacha slop
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kids play the same 5 live service games because why wouldn't they? modern major games take so long to develop there will be one single title across an entire kid's youth, you can't build a brand
>Game 1 releases
>the sequel, Game 2, releases 8+ years later
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>>734093505
I buy maybe a couple games on sale and a big budget RPG anymore if the reviews are pretty decent, since RPGs are the only good bang for your buck when it comes to the absolute clown AAA industry these days.
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>>734090138
I think I might on average buy more than one game per month, but only because I gift friends games on Christmas and their birthdays. There ain't enough games I'd want to buy for myself to reach that bracket. Maybe like one per two months.
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Not my problem.
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>>734092305
I'm sure that you know full well that if you're a normal guy who doesn't follow tranny artists or believe that videogames need to be inclusive and who wants to focus-target games at the predominantly male customer base, you're not getting hired into a position of authority in this industry. You're just a liar.
>muh wider audience
If this were anything but an excuse, the woke project would have been aborted when the comic book industry started imploding over ten years ago.
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This. Though people would find the money if they were making things that they wanted. Maybe not $100 (psychologically powerful number), but they'd skip a few takeout meals to buy something on the level of Skyrim or Halo. Entertainment has always thrived during economic downturns, including the great depression.
The industry and its shills don't get to get away with blaming uncontrollable factors so that they don't have to address the blaring problems that they have full control over.
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Price doesn't matter as much as making something that people want to play. The unintended consequence of flooding the market with live service games was you have to make a really good game or stay on target for years in the red to scrape together a community because the average person playing these games does want to be on the ground floor but they get spooked easily if they see the words "layoff" or "EoS" when they could just stick with what they currently invest time and money into.
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I want games that make my dick hard. Simple as. And I'm tired of all the bullshit devs do to make their game as unsexy as possible just to placate the puritan assholes and get their game sold.
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>>734089927
>OP: 17.21
>pic: 17.04
Just /v/ things
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>>734097186
And to this day, people are still babbling about not discriminating on the basis of political beliefs. Which is the absolute bottom bar for protecting your culture.
How are you supposed to stop them from taking over if you won't even tell them "no"?
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all we want is a game worth buying fooor
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>>734093505
I only bought two new releases last year, one of them was the remaster of my GotY 2015 Xenoblade X which I already knew I would love, the other was Metroid Prime 4 which was a massive fucking disappointment.
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>>734095243
I wanted to jest but from the scraping I usually see from kemono, some of them literally have dedicated discords and DMs for the higher paypigs and people also are devolving from watching e-girls on twitch to straight up paying for fansly exclusive streams where they just sit and moan into a mic. People were posting that it was refreshing to see some sports footage without LIVE GAMBLING ODDS taking their screen during the winter olympics as well.
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Games I have purchased and were made in the 2020s at full price
>Elden Ring
>Nioh 3
>STALKER 2 (bad choice, never buying a game from them again)
>Starfield (bad decision, TES VI will be bad so I will not buy it at full price)
>BG3 (Early Access, I won't buy a game before it's made again)
5 games in 5 years. Almost everything I play was released in the 00s or 10s. I bet I'm in the vast majority.
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>>734098405
What's the matter goy? Not enjoying neo Weimar?
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>>734092659
You clearly don't kbow what youre talking about. Kids aren't playing roblox either. They're just not playing vidya period. Kids are doing other things these days, vidya is transitioning to a boomer hobby
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>>734089927
>4% is responsible for 50% of the sales
I'm not suggesting that western AAA isn't in big trouble, but I'll bet that if you look at any large industry, the distribution is similar.
For every one person who plays golf every day, there are twenty people who play once per year
For every person who's watched every major sci-fi movie and read every book and is scraping the bottom of the d-list, there are twenty people who've only seen Star Wars and Star Trek
For every person who needs to buy 2-3 new sets of running shoes every year, there are twenty people who buy a new pair every two years.
etc.
Much of that 4% isn't buying western AAA slop.
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>>734093868
Turns out lua is powerful and the ROBLOX corpo continues improving their “game engine” beyond what was possible there 20-10 years ago. Kids can make games with AAA gameplay on that fucking platform and it’s free and available everywhere. It’s actually insane.
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>>734098919
It's a whale economy.
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>black crime wave; peak of gang culture
>undercurrent of modern problems; woke taking root in universities, problem women being pushed to HR instead of fired because of the CRA
>goods cheaper than now but still not as cheap as in the past; build quality starting to get cheap
>videogames, music, and pro wrestling were in an optimistic place, rest was meh
>didn't take a lot of pride in decorating our cities
The 90s were great, but we can do better if men take back the pants.
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There's nothing that can be done about it. They manipulated all sorts of circumstances they funneled the masses into a circumstance that ultimately doesn't benefit them long term. People who are playing games are long entrenched into their GAAS(s) of choice and see almost no reason to go out of their comfort zones and thus money is being burned trying to make the next thing.
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>>734095243
they mention onlyfans and "creator pornography" specifically, apparently people really get into that thin veneer of personalization
https://metro.co.uk/2026/02/19/video-games-struggling-compete-tiktok-g ambling-even-porn-26999854/
>since 2019, spending on video game software in the US has risen by $12.9 billion, but the country’s spending on OnlyFans content, online betting, and iCasinos has collectively risen by $31.6 billion
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>>734100541
i'm just glad I don't have whatever personality trait draws someone to it in the first place.
Without knowing the history there's probably very good reasons it was made illegal all over the place back in the day and it's probably back to quietly devastating segments of society now that they're loosening restrictions but that's how it goes.
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>>734100118
Samefag here, I also forgot to mention that the term "political correctness" was invented in the 90s for a reason.
Again, we shouldn't aim to get back to the 90s. We should learn from the mistakes of the 20th century and aim to make the 2040s absolutely amazing.
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>>734089927
The market was fueled by millennials, and we're starting to bow out of buying new games. Zoomers and Alphas either can't afford the hardware, and even the games sometimes, or the new games are pure dogshit compared to what they already have. They need to lower the prices, and in order to do that they need to trim down the development team size and fire all the unnecessary bureaucracy that's infested the industry.
A studio department responsible for the development of a single video game should not exceed dunbar's number.
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>>734100951
You pesky little samefag! Pesky!
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it’s very simple. kids are out of the gaming market. talk to any kid and max they play is roblox for a while, 98% of the time they are melting their brains on tiktok or livestreams, actively playing a game is too much for them nowadays, especially if it’s something complex and not pumped by the algorithm.
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>>734098869
>LMAO stop thinking old good new bad, games are better than ever!
>PS1 had three great mainline final fantasies
>PS2 had two
>PS3 had two ehhh mainline final fantasies
>PS4 had one shit mainline final fantasy
>PS5 is now on track to have one shit mainline final fantasy
And that's just one series I liked. Surely it's just nostalgia that I like old games more.
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>but...the brands
LMAO
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>>734092305
>$10
there are been multiple price increases in recent years. games were £50 for some time (~2016), and even that was too much. they're now releasing at £70+, and some publishers want to increase that to £100.
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>>734089927
>Burgers are now poorer than yuropoors
What a weird timeline
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>>734097967
>this is the fruits of the “gamers don’t have to be your audience” leftist shitheads
Yeah or you know instead of your political brainwashing diatribe it's because the economy is shit for everyone in the bottom 90%
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>>734092954
Yeah, I've moved onto other hobbies since 2017/18
>Tabletop RPGs
Started playing old rpgs, like CoC, CP2020 and OSR, which is my main type of game now.
>Music
I listen to music a fuckton now, almost all Heavy Metal and derivatives.
>AI
I play around with it in local.
Nothing much, but it's pretty fun since it's uncensored.
>Books
I also started reading often, but mostly really old stuff, with some exceptions.
>Movies
I've become a giant movie enjoyer. The /hor/ thread on /tv/ ruined me for good.
I completely ignore TV series, I already watched all the old ones that I liked or had any interest.
>Comics
I read only European Comics and Manga, with the latter winding down after reading a fuckton of them in my youth.
Other than that, I study Japanese when I have nothing to do and.
I do still play vidya, but only emulated games, recompilations, visual novels, some porn games and the rare indie game that inspire me, like Dwarf Fortress, Stardew Valley, Cry of Fear, Factorio and so on.
If I had more money, I'd build a homelab and enter the self-hosting rabbithole.
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I have about 1600 on Steam and more than 600 on GOG, not counting the pirated games...
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>my old games will run on my hardware i already own
>my backlog is untouched
>I keep getting games for free from epic or GOG
>pirate retro games I never got to play when I was younger
>most games now are indie demos that should have stayed in their college dev phase or AAA wokeshit slop
>slowly growing out of F2P
>can count how many times i bought a game near release on one hand
I'm just old now
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>>734090138
>big AAA releases take longer and longer and longer to come out
>people are buying games less and less and less
Imagine if there weren't the occasional indie firework to pulse the heart on occasion between giant releases.
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>>734089927
>games have been consistently getting worse with less features, gamemodes, interactivity, visually, and especially performance wise where computer upgrades are becoming ludicrously expensive
>while increasing the price and draconian levels of control via drm, kernal level malware, getting your money stolen for saying nono words
>while calling you a crybaby, entitled loser for having high expectations from an industry that puts out products that cost hundreds of millions of dollars for some reason and as a whole makes more in revenue than tv/movies/books combined
>while taking 10 years to make and leveraging a studios existence on one or two games
>meanwhile, many competent enough indies put out games that offer 10s to 100s of hours of entertainment for 10-15 dollarydoos that can run well on anything that has power connected to it with the caveat that a lot of them never escape early access hell or just die
and it really doesnt end there. I dont buy anything knowingly that uses unreal engine because it and tim are such an unending cancer on the industry. I dont buy GaaS shit, i dont buy gacha, i dont buy games that run like shit, i dont buy games that are 90% dlc. I could never buy a video game again and through emulation/piracy of anything before 2020, i would have more GOOD games to play than i ever would have the time for. why should i even pretend to be excited for more shitslop garbage designed to try and milk me for as much money as possible with the feature of it not even being a fun money sink
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>>734089927
Games suck so much now that most days of the week I would rather just study biology and fucking calculus. That’s more fun than playing utter shit.
>but muh indies
Are all gay and have no QA testing and the few that don’t have either of these problems are still 1/10th the scope of an actual video game made by a real company.
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raise prices to $70, they'll pay them -Tim Sweeny
>game sales drop
NOOOOO YOU WILL DO WHAT I SAY RAISE THE PRICE TO $80 -Tim Sweeny
>game sales drop even further
imagine listening to that troglodyte retard Tim Sweeny
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>>734089927
I'm buy just as many games as I did 10 years ago
Probably 2 or 3 times as many!
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>>734089927
Because they aren't cool anymore. Late genz and gen alpha don't give a fuck about video games and think they are boomer medium. Games today resemble Hollywood, cheap, derivative, lame, with no testosterone or edge.
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>>734090138
Lower the price and remove the pozzed shit too.
Not paying $80 for a 4 hour game with 16 hours of cutscenes where all the bitches are ugly as sin and voiced by ugly vocal fry whores from Cali, that holds my hand the whole time with constant hints, thrusts allies in the final boss fight that do % health damage and has a Souls/MonHun/DMC wannabe soundtrack + game loop that fails at it.
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>>734090138
>make garbage woke shit games
>$70 + tip
>why won't anyone buy our anti white, faggot filled wokeshit games that are also terrible?
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>>734111020
>muh go woke go broke
Except all the big name brand shit that continues to sell despite doing that?
nuPokemon's 10th gen already has their loyal fanboy consoomer subhumans BREATHLESS and jizzing in their axe-wound discharged panties, despite looking like ugly pozzed low effort shit once again.
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>>734111176
>like muh one example while ignoring the dozens of success for woketrash
Yes?
Retard?
>>734111284
Except the ones that are too big to fail and are selling record numbers for the first time in decades, but go off retardGOD. Just two more weeks for total wokeoid collapse! If I keep repeating it then it'll happen!
In reality the only way this gets fixed is if consoomers had :) happen to them
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>>734093505
The only game I bought in 2025 was Silksong. Even then, I got it at 20% off.
So, no.
I hope the industry crashes.
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>>734098358
It's more the investors expecting that an expansion into turd world markets was going to bring the same kind of revenue as selling games to humans if only they manage to find the right marketing tricks to fleece shitskins out of money they don't even have. Their profit projections were based on pure wishful thinking.
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If the industry were putting out a classic every month, people would find the $70/month in their budgets. They'd go pick up the tacos instead of having them delivered. It would be a priority.
If your live service game is appealing, most people will take a break from their main to go check it out. There are successful new live service games popping up all the time.
People with BlueSky accounts are trying to overemphasize other factors so that they don't have to acknowledge that THEY are the ones responsible for destroying the industry.
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>>734111681
>Pokemon has monkey-faced girlbosses and antiwhite propaganda
You're really reaching.
The body type A/B thing is a little annoying, and we should aim to completely purge our culture of the farce that is critical theory, but it's not a deal breaker for most people, since you see it once and then never again.
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>>734092391
>>PC is outdated
Ps5 hardware is on RX 6700 XT level. Almost all games will target the Ps5, so if you have midrange hardware from 2021, you will be able to play anything this generation. And Ps6 won't come soon.
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>>734092273
>>why isn't anyone buying price hiked woke garbage during a recession
>Gee... I wonder
What games are even woke? Nigger, name at least 3. I refuse to believe you chuds. Just because Celeste had a cute subtile story, doesn't mean it's "le woke" you fucking in the closet faggot, grow up.
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>>734089927
I still somewhere around 2003 on my list, lots of good shit to go through. And given that old vidya come from closed up shops I probably won't spend a dime on any of them
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>>734104380
that's some straight up horseshit anon, you were probably too young to remember the wall street crash in 2008 but there was virtually no effect on video game purchases because games were actually still good at the time. Games today fucking suck ass and all favour a long term live service model instead of shorter term, passion driven projects that didnt insult their target audience in an attempt to make the most money.
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>>734112251
It's the fact that the characters are all androgynous except for the FOTM safe horny shit
>>734112496
>abloobloobloo whataboutwhataboutwhatabout
Take it up with Ninty making another $4 billion off of what was previously a dying series, but go off retardKING.
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>>734089927
Even when I was younger I was consooming launch games constantly through Gamefly's massive discount incentives.
These days as I've shifted to PC I'm patient enough to wait for discounts, and even then major publishers manage maybe 1-2 games per year that I'm interested in.
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Let’s see
>no games worth buying
>if a game comes out and it’s worth it it’s either single player and why would I pay full price for that? I’ll get it on discount later
>if it’s a multiplayer game it’s likely free to play live service slop and why would I spend money on that if it has a limited life span? The whales can pay for my copy
>the economy is in shambles so I’m not blowing what little I have on game
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>>734112798
dragonage
highguard
concord
spiderman miles morals
assassin's creed shadows?
suicide squad
forspoken
redfall
saints row
marvel's avengers
immortals of aveum
>>734113176
you got proven wrong you gay, dickless retard
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>>734113165
Jews fucked up their own toy and game market. For decades kids and young adults would desperately want something if it was presented to them as the coolest shit ever. It could be pulled off with insane marketing promises that couldn't be debunked before release, there just weren't that many avenues for leaks. Things that were transgressive, edgy and pissed off the parents and teachers almost always worked. If all else failed, tits and booth babes could sell anything. These days there's no magnetic pull, the market is way too oversaturated for that. And on top of it, pretty much everything is cringe. It's cringe to get excited and passionate.
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>>734113516
You faggots have been saying this shit for the last 6 years and there's literally nothing to show for it lmfao
>b-b-but stock
Monopoly doesn't mean anything.
>b-b-but studios closing
With 99% of the same staff of subhumans hired by the main branches at Shitny, Microshit, etc. because the industry is nepotistic and cannibalistic like that lol
>b-b-but millions lost!
Monopoly doesn't mean anything.
Censorship has never been more prevalent. Demake/demaster slop is at an all time high, and they're designed explicitly to replace public consciousness of the old originals because they're gross and icky.
It was never about money lmfao
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>>734113936
The real perpetrators that killed the industry are subhumans such as yourself that consoom the """""based""""" slop, however, like SB lmfao, but go off retardGOD.
Nice dodge on all the points yet again, I'll accept that concession :)
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>>734114156
>feel the need to push woke shit
Despite me openly shitting on it in my posts? LMFAO
Go off ESLtardGOD, I'm just lamenting how nothing ever actually happens because the industry is incestuous and self-sustaining. Another post dodging the points too, so another concession... accepted!
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>>734089927
https://store.playstation.com/en-us/category/4dfd67ab-4ed7-40b0-a937-a 549aece13d0/1
All of these games can be played for free online. People are buying consoles for F2P mainly now. Fortnite and Roblox are Sony's biggest revenue streams for PS. That's why Sony have done a scattershot of live service releases because only one has to become a hit to make it worth it. A lot of Gen A and younger zoomers are laughing at the idea of paying money for games.
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>>734114548
What changed? Millennials had an endless selection of f2p chink and korean MMOs + early MOBAs, but they still coveted many proper AAA and AA games. Why can't the current generation of kids imagine wanting to play more than one game?
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lol the aaa games are just shit. the money still flows, just look at gachashit, friendslop assetflips, or people becoming millionaires through shitty roblox horror games. Concordlikes simply do not capture the popular imagination and the industry basically just waits for big games like RE or GTA to have a pop
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>the west has moved gaas goyslop
>china and korea make nothing but gachashit (also goyslop). When they arent making anime slot machines they make mediocre copies of jap games
>japan is in a weird lull and not making games at all
i really have nor reasons to buy games at all
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I think we should just make it illegal to not be a billionaire. The cattle are only fit for being tortured to death. Let's turn Earth into a gigantic torture chamber. Imagine entire fields of people impaled on spikes, and great big torture machines. Isn't it beautiful?
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>people can barely afford basic groceries that serfs from the Dark Ages had easy access to
>they dont own their own property and are taunted by the banks and politicians over the fact that they never will
>divorce and breakup rates skyrocketing
>microplastics and other kinds of pollution in the air
>owning and maintaining a car a near-prerequisite for work costs alot
>jobs pay less and screw people in more ways than one
>numerous articles and people going “why arent people buying plastic toys and consuming more media”
>these same articles and people will then go on to say how gaming is destroying the minds of people and that free time is “laziness”
These people have to be tone-deaf sociopaths right?
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They simply got too greedy. Like, im willing to pay $40 for a 7/10 game that I'll play through once and forget. For $70+ I have to be damn sure im getting my money's worth.
I haven't bought a switch 2 game since launch. I haven't bought resident evil 9 because even though I know I'll like it im only going to get 7 hours out of it.
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>>734115276
Real estate prices doubled bare minimum in the last 10-12 years, it's closer to 3x the price on average though. Meanwhile wages have gone up like 10-20% at best.
>These people have to be tone-deaf sociopaths right?
Some, others know all this and the point of writing that shit is to wear people down mentally because they get off on fucking with the "plebeians".
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>>734114743
Millenials knew what real games felt like, even casual gamers could sense when the point was suddenly friction to extract money. Kids don't know any better and they also formed online social networks around the f2p games while Millenials would hop on Xbox live or go to their actual friends house and play a new game every month.
Halo 3 got kind of close to what mono game culture would become, it had a stream of user made maps and modes and there was a weird cultural swell around it with machinima and other content creators, it was the first time your entire media consumption diet could revolve around a single game. Minecraft and Fortnite were probably multiple times more sticky than halo 3 so I can see how it would trap a wider, more casual audience forever.
I don't really understand why there aren't more hardcore gen z or gen a gamers who behave like millenials though, maybe they just don't have the money.
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>>734090138
Longer dev cycles means less releases
No physical media raises the bar for entry into the hobby
>Can't lend games to friends
>Can't trade them in for a new one when you're done
>Cant pick up cheap preowned copies
Plus there's nl splitscreen anymore so anything multiplayer needs 3 friends to buy the game as well
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>>734116618
don't forget
>chopping the game up and selling you pieces of it via season passes
>making characters' base appearance ugly then selling you costumes that used to be unlocked by playing the game for $$$
>games which can't even dream of attaining 60 fps at 1920x1080 unless you turn on fake resolution and fake frames
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>>734090138
I mean why?
So many free games that you can sink 1k+ hours into and lots of good indie games you can pick up for $15 on a sale and sink 600h into.
MMOs have private servers or free-to-play models that you can sink 20k hours into.
Then if you're desperate you can just easily pirate everything
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So 63% are fucking normalfags
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>>734092954
cuz video games are free its the only hobby worth doing.
everything else is so fucking expensive or regulated now, or the communities went to shit since covid.
cant even snowboard anymore cuz its $175 for a day pass (plus $50 for the bus cuz you're not allowed to drive yourself anymore cuz you have to save the planet goyim!)
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>>734100541
>80% of slot machines are in Australia
>80% of those are just in New South Wales
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>PS2 had two
PS2 had one of the greatest MMOs/FF games ever made
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>>734115176
>I ignore countries with a population under 10 million on graphs like this
>apart from Denmark for some reason
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12 is the 5th best FF game and you can take turns sucking on my balls.
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>>734090138
HE CANT KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH IT
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>>734120339
AAA is, or was, dependent on ESG investment funding, that's the only reason AAA has blown out and inflated to the scale it has. It's become obvious over a decade plus of this shit that it doesn't make any financial return, and is having the inverse effect ideologically, so it's beginning to dry up and the industry is turning to cost-cutting measures to make the line go up. We're not far off from an industry crash, assuming nothing about the way they make games changes over the next decade.A good investment strategy for a while was to invest in a developer after a game bombed and dropped share prices, but before platitudes were put out to restore good will, then sell your shares just prior to the release of the next game as hype built up the stock price, then repeat the whole cycle over again. You wouldn't believe how much money I made doing just that for the last 15 years.
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>>734116393
Many children are consuming "content" on tablets and smartphones. This content comes in all shapes and sizes, from professional animations to amateur videos on YouTube. They also play wth smartphone apps, which are more like interactive toys than actual games.
Basically, just as there was a problem with children watching too much television before video games came along, now there is a problem with children consuming too much "content" on smartphones and tablets.
Video games were actually a good thing that got children away from passive consumption (TV), but apparently they are now losing ground to new passive consumption + simplistic digital toys.
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>guys I don't like woke political propaganda
>shut up nazi
>guys I don't like the spyware and data harvesting
>shut up conspiracy theorist
>guys I don't like the microtransactions/subscriptions
>shut up brokie
It was inevitable that I stopped listening to them in the way they stopped listening to me long ago.
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>>734089927
No one is talking about this but I think we've reached a carrying capacity on "entertainment" existing. There is enough of a backlog of... everything that these digital circuses are becoming inherently worthless
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>>734092269
that's only an issue with live service type games that companies want players to play exclusively for months or years
single player games you're expected to buy and finish maybe once don't compete for time nearly as much, but they also won't make six gorillion dollars like a successful GAAS does
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$70 isn't that much of deal for me, since I buy cheap keys.
The problem is that new big games these days have no appeal to me. I buy like 2 brand new games a year.
I just got new Resident and I enjoy it. I'm not bothered by playtime, I actually would rather more games to be finishable in 15 hours. I don't need to play game for 100s of hours. Give me something condensed, which I'll enjoy for a couple of hours straight, replay, move on and I'll come back to replay every few years.
Modern live service and online games make me tired, they basically expect the game to be new job.
But also entry level gaming is now fucked.
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>Why can't the current generation of kids imagine wanting to play more than one game?
Their attention spans are fucked and want instant action from instant downloads while leaving no room for options, if you ever had to sit in same room as alphie to play a game or god forbid find a movie to watch you'd know.
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>>734127842
Quality argument bro.
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>>734098702
Pretty much the same. The only new games I got in 2025 were College Football and Battlefield 6 on the PS5. Only other games I can think of that I bought since 2020 are Cyberpunk, MW2, and on super cheap sale Borderlands3.
Most of my time playing games is spent flying in DCS or playing old modded Total War games on PC. Tried some live service slop when Marvel Rivals gmae out but got bored of it and uninstalled pretty quick, not even 5 hours in.
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>>734133983
An thus the cycle continues.
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>>734089927
It's more that 99.9% of this "gamer" population have only a passing, practically non-existent interest in games to begin with.
Then if you look outside of the US, you get this.
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>>734089927
It isn't even price for me anymore. If a game is good enough, I'll happily purchase it but most games are so bad, I wouldn't buy it for a nickel much less 60$.
Triple A titles just aren't worth playing to begin with. I love the dragon age series and I love Civilization, but if DA4 and Civ7 came as a bundle for 2$, I would say "no thank you."
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If you're actually interested in video games, you have a never-ending amount of ~$20 games to play and any new game ultimately drops to ~$20 within a year or two (with updates to make the game actually work). So it loops back to my point.
99.9% of people who are "gamers" have no actual interest in video games
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>>734134151
Sure thing broke incel. You just can't even afford a haircut so you cope by telling yourself they must be bad
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>>734089927
Stop kiking games with battle passes and DLC and MTX
Stop doing this on top of $70 and $80 games
Stop buying into AI bullshit and making hardware prices astronomically out of touch
Playtest and QA your fucking games. Grifting fags, bots, and autistic streamers are not metrics to base gameplay on, they are retarded anomalies
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