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How do I keep up in current day Yu-Gi-Oh? I love farming gems, but the last time I played I was used to summoning Celtic Guardian and passing turn.
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I play exodia.
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Fill the deck with monsters that have 2000 defense and 1800+ attack that you can summon without any tributes. Pepper in some power summons like summoned skull. Throw in some dark holes and trap holes. Throw in some cards to negate spells and traps. It's pretty much game over for your opponent if you follow these tips.
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Seriously considering building Branded Dracotail Tear after seeing some replays (pic related, see the turn counter)
I did not give a shit about Dracotail (with a minor Branded package) when it came out and did not roll for it
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its utterly disgraceful that all this garbage is still legal
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>>734095694
FTFY
Elf is not a problem if all the things that matter that it protects are gone
Maxx "C" is not a problem if all the problem handtraps it draws into are gone
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>>734095694
Leaving in the TCG boogyman cards like Verte and Elf is good bait but you should also add in more blatant "I just really hate this pet deck" cards like Huli or some Blue-Eyes card. Engage and Hugin aren't obvious enough while Clear Vicious Knight isn't believable.
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>>734095906
You got me. I am still pretty terrible at the game though, if it's any compensation.
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>>734095694
>2026
>still crying about birds
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>>734096243
this only requires a wind on board
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>>734092712
Learn to normal summon Aleister.
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>>734096440
>seems bad
It's not. It's not an Ash Blossom, it's a layered interruption and board breaker that's harder to interact with by sitting in your hand.
And the main reason board breakers are so bad is that they do nothing going first so you have to either give up the going first advantage or risk bricking on them going first and getting shut down by hand traps with nothing to protect you. This obviously doesn't have that issue.
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>>734092712
Honestly, I think yugiboomers need to stop trying to get back into the game. This is one hundred percent my opinion. It is no longer simple or intuitive how the game works, it is by no means pick up and play like it was back when yugiboomers played. You need a lot of knowledge and a lot of experience with many different decks to not get btfo.
Just stay away. I'd rather not hear bitching about how it's too complicated. No more "I remember...", no more "Whats a synchro/xyz/link", ITS A DIFFERENT GAME.
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>>734096814
You can definitely do it. You just need to drop your preconceptions about what the game is supposed to be and accept that it's a whole new game based off the frame of the original. Or just play old formats instead.
t. quit the game when 5Ds started airing then picked it back up with MD's release
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>How negrumps start actin' when I tribute summon my super ancient dinobeast to the field
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Ideal situation
>handtraps result in half boards, not either no board (decks having chokepoints or silver bullets) or full board (decks not caring about handtraps)
>cards/effects having actual costs, not just "costs" that benefit them
>handtraps being 95% in-engine
>either all or no decks have turn 0 combos
>negates being rare, and not being on cards that stay on the field or recur themselves
>anti-hypocrisy clauses on cards (e.g. can't have special summoned monsters if you have a special summon floodgate)
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>>734097530
the only actual solution to the current state of the game is to ban every 1 card combo and go back to 2 card combos
>since every deck needs 2 cards now every deck requires larger engines which result in less handtraps being shoved into every deck
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>ash
You tards can not be serious
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>The anus of my sorry opponent as I summon charcoal inpachi in defense mode
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>>734097754
this garbage deck building trend is a result of 1 card combos doing everything
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>>734097792
It's funny how this has gone from getting you instantly outed as a noob to suddenly being an acceptable opinion because a couple youtubers said so. The people saying Ash only helps going first players suddenly are delusional. If that were the case then Purge would be worthless but everyone still runs it at 3 if their deck can.
I would like to see some statistical analysis on the winrate of going first with+without Ash and going second with+without Ash though.
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>>734098247
Why would you so purposefully miss the point being made? It's clearly not that Ash isn't powerful. The argument that people are running Purge(which is often a weaker Ash) is an argument FOR Ash being powerful.
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>>734096814
You are full of bullshit, this game plays itself. You just need a strong deck and the game helps you to play. I had a really long Yugi break (didn't even know what XYZ was). The client spoon feeds you, telling you what to do, if you can activate shit etc. All you need is a strong meta deck and some meta knowledge. Everything is flowchart and autopilot. Everyone can hit max rank.
>experience
I agree, this game is borderline unplayable irl on paper, but Master Duel isn't hard. There is no skill involved if 2 even players play against each other, it's just draw.
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>>734092712
lets play a game anon!
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>>734098135
>suddenly being an acceptable opinion because a couple youtubers said so
I said Ash should be banned when I started playing, when I was using Lair of Darkness, and I kept saying it until I reached Master and played meta decks, and I still say it today.
I don't need yugigoober approval.
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>>734098665
oh no.
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>>734098729
they were never good
this was the actual boss monster alongside CED
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>>734098965
Not really. Search is only really problem if it's a deck with 60 cards due to time. The game isn't really that card to understand. The worse part is really keeping track of your opponent's sneaky GY effects and battle step rulings
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>>734098786
is this more up your speed anon?
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>>734099091
people tend to say that tear is the most complicated deck but that title belongs to F.A. due to the constant level modulation effects
its a literal nightmare to play in analog ygo
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>>734099329
Why can't they just nerf all the meta decks?
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>>734099238
I don't even play this game anymore. HEROS is just a bad deck and you're bad if you consistently lose it
>>734099315
There's a million choke points beofre they can reliably go into Dark Law, and most staples can deal with it. If you can't stop them going into Dark Law or out it once it's on the field, you probably bricked anyways.
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>>734098729
Funny how you mention that, I watched a couple of YGO retrospective videos about how the game evolved and they all reached the early conclusion that both those cards would get quickly replaced by Summoned Skull because it was easier to summon and strong enough to keep the opponent at bay, with only BEWD seeing play because it was a 3k ATK beater that could only be beaten with spell cards.
The YuGiOh you remember only existed in middle school. Even me as a little casual who bought Joey's SD as his first deck was quickly introduced to Chaos once I started going to a card shop close to the high school I was attending.
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>>734099398
I saw like 4 Artmages in the dice rally but yeah they're not great and they didn't make it cheap. Also only 1 is actually in MD with just the first wave of support so I don't know why we're talking about them as plural.
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>>734099720
>Elvennotes is a cool enough name
>localized to Elfnotes because fuck you KoA needs to justify their worthless existence
>the cards being cute matter jackshit because they're still part of the Medius lore
>and Medius will be contaminating the deck anyway
I like to pretend Medius doesn't exist and that Diabellstar was only ended prematurely because they needed to give lore decks a break.
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>>Elvennotes is a cool enough name
oh no no no sister...
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>The DMG Overframes are trending big time
Dark Magician Girl won.
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>Ancient Gear Faggot Queer
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i set 4 cards and end my turn
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>>734100303
Looks 100% on model to me.
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>>734101175
No one would post anything but. It'd be disrespectful to the cards to do otherwise.
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https://yu-gi-oh.jp/news_detail.php?page=details&id=2463
HER GAME
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>>734102397
Quick Google translation
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>>734102523
Wow, this brand new card is going to be really strong when backed up by a Widow Anchor.
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>>734100802
Does your friend likes naruto too?
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>>734102562
It's an alt art of widow anchor.
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>>734102606
no way
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>>734093538
>pick one deck to play
>play card, special summon, search archetype related card, play, special summon, search, play boss monster, search, special summon, search, play second boss monster, search, search, special summon, set omninegate/generic removal pass
>pick another deck to play
>play card, special summon, search archetype related card, play, special summon, search, play boss monster...
>pick yet another deck
>...
I gave up and just play the DS games nowadays
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So Sky Striker now has 8 different alt-arts that can be used in the deck if you include alt-art Reinforcement of the Army and manga Roze. Be honest with me: do japs even like Raye for her to get new toys every couple of months?
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They don't. Raye is only shilled by that one Konami high executive and the tourists who buy into the fake hype. Sadly that means that the Sky Striker alt arts will be a hit because the target demographic for them is people who don't know any better.
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>Yes? You can read comments on the Twitter post
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>>734095539
The problem with this is at some point the Branded cards are going to be ditched. The Fusion lock is too limiting for Dracotail which is pure a pure slop enabler.
Yeah the current best OCG build uses new Branded support but the only card in Dracotail that locks is Rahu which is cuttable once something better comes along.
Hypothetically you can also run Shaddolls over Branded cards which do shit when fused. Faimena can summon Winda turn 0 which is a stronger presence than Arthalion.
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>>734092712
All that tuner synchro pendulum whatever shit is where I just lost what little interest I had left. You might as well play something else.
>>734093351
whoa I didn't know willie garson trooned out
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>>734104598
https://x.com/yu_gi_oh_jp/status/2028289188177519031
Where else can you see Japan's opinions easily?
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>>734106698
None we're past the deep draw MR4 era
VSK9 wants attributes in hand, discarding is retarded
Dracotail shuffles into the deck
Mitsurugi alone shits out R4NK/R8NKs so you don't have to play the dogshit Chupacabra or Bigfoot missing, Snake-Eyes can shit out Curious if you're so desperate to mill.
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https://x.com/nnkk933306/status/2028035424061726933
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It's way worst. It the whome shebang, playmat sleeves, a fully foiled deck with 18 arts from the anime and 2 overframes and probably even some of the most busted handtraps just to make sure it doesn't flop and smears Raye's reputatio. Gee Konami.
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RADIANT TYPHOON AND DOOMZ COMING
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And whoever this guy is
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a very reluctant kind of.
She's definately more popular than most, but she's nowhere near popular to warrant all the nepotism she gets. She gets pushed harder than DMG does despite being like 1/10th as popular.
Its annoying but honestly could be worse.Im also an FEfag so the shit that happens there with a certain blue cancer makes Roman Raye's pushing look quaint.
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I stopped playing YGO for Disney
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>>734107974
Man, I'm glad we're finally getting some skippable banners, it has been month after month of constantly spending gems on bundles and alt-arts. Literally nothing on the horizon for me until Killer Tune is released.
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Missing cards
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>>734109207
>missing for so long it didn't even make the list
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>>734109568
Flametongue is in the game bro. Since October 2024
It's the TCG where the card hasn't released yet
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>>734109614
Ah, my bad.
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>Miss
I have good news for ya
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>>734102397
About fucking time. I was *BURPS* starving over here
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>>734109614
That's a digimon
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>>734110813
Junk Gardna has two effects:
>1) Once per turn, you can select 1 monster your opponent controls, and change its battle position. This effect can be activated during either player's turn.
>2) If this card is sent from the field to the Graveyard, you can select 1 monster on the field and change its battle position.
When its second effect is activated, the text that will be highlighted is this
>This effect can be activated during either player's turn.
Which is not a fucking effect (let alone the second effect), but basically the "Quick Effect" text of the first effect.
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>le yugioh soul!!!
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>>734092712
make one of these
https://www.masterduelmeta.com/tier-list#power-rankings
Use an online sim to familiarize yourself with the decks you dont understand so you know when to use your handtraps
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Labrynth eating good
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Centur-ion support when?
I would take a centur-ion primera or trudea mate at this point too...
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>>734110859
The continuous trap is what is negating every chain MST activates
Enjoy combing in the draw phase, and chaining your big guys to your opponent's monster effects
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>>734096275
sorry to hear that, thanks for the laugh anon
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>Special Summon from your Extra Deck, 1 [blah], by using it as the Xyz Material. (This is treated as an Xyz Summon. Transfer its materials to the Summoned monster.)
Shit ton of text, for what the Japanese just word as "slap it on top".
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>>734114293
Hey you stole my shtick
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>>734099674
>they're not great
The deck has significant resource generation and is pretty consistent. It heavily relies on the field spell though, and if you deny them that access it does feel weak. But that's also vanilla Artmage without any Elevenotes, Doom Z or the new support on way.
To beat the full Artmage board I needed a hand like >>734111614 to win so if you told me 1 year from now Artmage goes 100-0 in no banlist cup I would believe it. It feels like Snake-Eyes pre-Poplar.
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>10/10 design
>awesome name
>but get a shitty effect
This suck
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>>734116157
Yes, then you get drolled and instantly lose
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>>734116157
Ash punishes decks that have limited starters but mass on handtraps
Roach punishes decks that mass starters/extenders but limited defensive cards
When Maxx was banned in the TCG, TCG players adapted to Ash by reaching for big combo decks that could extend through Ash but were also unaffected by Droll. Think Adamancipator. Prank DPE was more popular in the TCG than OCG because it was less vulnerable to Droll, which was far more common side in the TCG.
Snake-Eyes was the first format, roach or not, that brought the TCG and OCG more in line with a similar style of deck and TCG players have been seething since.
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Admancipator cards don't add from Deck to hand. They excavate then special summon from the Deck.
The 2 points to Droll would be the search for Block Dragon off Galant Granite or Block Dragon refilling their hand. And even if you had Droll they frequently would normal summon Ko'Aki Meiru Guardian as protection from handtraps.
The only reason Adamancipator didn't win a YCS is due to covid. And it got slaughtered on the banlist anyway as if it did. The deck was unstoppable going first and you needed specific breakers in hand to win going second.
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Nop, I kinda build everything I wanted
>Ryzeal
>ALICE
>Yummy
>Teleport
>Millenium
>Mimighouls
>Gate Guardian for events
Im waiting for Enneacraft and maybe Killer Tune but its going to be like three packs away it seems.
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VANQUISH SISTERS DON'T OPEN THIS PIC THIS DRACOFRAIL TECH WILL KILL YOU
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>Tuner
It was ultimately unnecessary. They originally tied the effects to the subtype but later realized you don't have to do that. Thus subtypes were relegated to little more than parameters and were later supplanted by archetypes.
Consider BLS-EotB is effectively a self-summoning Ritual Monster. It was one of the first cards to have "Cannot be Normal Summoned/Set" but at the time Konami didn't realize you could have a Ritual self summon itself because every other Ritual did so via card effect. Same shit with Fusions up until the anime came up with Contact Fusion in GX.
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I feel like there's something to the Ash Blossom complaints.
>need 2 handtraps to stop their starter
>they have 3 stops to my push going second
Ash doesn't feel that powerful going second unless it hits a card that forces the opponent into a lock like Branded Fusion or Junk Speeder.
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>>734123556
Notice that Solemn only got limited again once the TCG migrated to an OCG-style meta that was very handtrap heavy.
When the TCG was just endless extension, Solemns and Ash were not very good. But now that every deck is running 20+ handtraps killing the starter is a turnskip again.
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This is the kind of card I wish we got out of the RDA support. This would have helped way more than anything released in BPRO.
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>>734092712
They're making a new series of cards that use new versions of Yami Yugi's cards including Celtic Guardian. I'd probably look into that even if it's not the "best" deck. You're gonna have the most fun if you're playing cards you personally like.
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>next pack is not exosisters
Holy shit!! how long should i wait!?
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>>734125435
>Foolish Burial Vision Resonator
>search Crimson Gaia
>search this
>Make Red Rising
>Make Crimson King
>Search Crimson Call
>Search Crimson Resonator
>Normal Crimson Resonator
>Special Soul Resonator and Synkron Resonator
>Search Bone Archfiend
>Special Hot Red Dragon Archfiend Abyss
>Synkron Resonator activate to add Vision back to hand
It's really, really, really good within the existing RDA cards. Basically a main deck Red Rising. Power Vice, Darkness and Fiend Piece aren't that great and their whole gimmick is making Crimson Blade Dragon easier which is already accessible thru Bone Archfiend.
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I'm new, why didn't tidying work here?
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remember, chinese letters mean better shuffler
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People want all my good shit in my binder when their binder has just straight up dogwater or their binder is all $300+ cards. No inbetweens.
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what other funny stuff is said around here
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Is it gonna be meta or useful in other decks?
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Synchro was cool because it moved boss monsters into the extra deck so it let you have hype anime moments without waiting for both players to hard draw into their one-of Dark Magician or Blue-Eyes.
Eventually they printed so many of them that every deck just turned into synchro toolbox with the only difference being which mechanism you used to vomit bodies out.
Xyz was the same but they speedran the generic toolbox aspect so it was boring and gay nearly right away.
Also rank 4 just doesn't have the same aura as a level 8 so most Xyz era boss monsters don't even feel like boss monsters.
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>>734133001
This did wonders for a shitpost that I thought would get deleted. I'll take it.
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Why was this guy so afraid of Crossout?
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>>734093351
Woud play Yugioh with(after violent fucking)
No seriously, that troon automaticly becomes more attractive by virtue of genuinly enjoying something i realy like, and no one around me even takes as a valid hoby.
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>>734103241
To be fair, back in the day most decks consisted of the same bunch of staples and power summons too.
Everyone played breaker, everyone used Raigeki and so forth.
Its not that much different nowadays, most decks do the same shit in different sequence and in a different flavour.
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It doesn't just stop combo decks, any engine that needs more than one special summon to get anywhere is just giving the opponent a huge advantage if Maxx C resolved
A simple 2 monsters into a XYZ is already giving them +1 and if like 90% of decks stopped there they'd get buttraped even if the opponent wasn't drawing extra cards
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I'm taking a break from Shadowverse what decks are rogue right now so I can lose and complain about meta decks?
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>>734092712
You don't. Even Konami indirectly admits that they're not getting any new players since the game gotten way too convoluted for it's own good.
Just stick with GOAT format or Edison format.
There's also Genesys but I still think it's abit too retarded for YGO boomers.
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Lab - waifu deck that uses traps and tries to grind the opponent to death by recycling them
Branded - off-meta but powerful
Dinomoprhia - waifu list that als has cyborg dinosaurs. It just says "no" with counter traps and halves your lifepoints repeatedly. It's exceptionally oppressive when it's working but you are constantly on the edge of losing because you want your life points as low as possible
Raidraptor - extremely cheap list focused on robot birds with giant numbers, mostly contained in a structure deck that is 1500 gems for all 3
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>>734136807
Sky Striker
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>>734137460
He's gone, you have to let him go.
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>>734138302
nothing else feels like Yugioh so there's no other way to get the same kind of experience. for better or worse it's like the only card game that doesn't try to balance the game around ramping mana costs
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okay? that's the whole point of yugioh, don't you like sacking your opponent? that's the dopamine retard. it's like if someone goes to play slots and then gets mad they always lose all the time
like no fucking shit stupid
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>>734138241
My new favorite ygo pair of lesbians.
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Speak for yourself. Yugioh is at its best when it's a back and forth struggle past turn 2. It feels like racing through dense traffic in a tight tunnel. Sacking your opponent with stun or negate spam just feels like a single player experience you could have just by doing test hands.
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>ygo is a coin flip simulator because the win rate isn't 50/50
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>>734139674
Radiant Typhoon's biggest issue right now is the missing Fallen and the Virtuous and Forbidden Crown.
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just saying
power patron
elfnote
doomz
guess who's the strongest out of these 3 archetypes that released relatively at the same time and are related to one central archetype
if you guessed it's the idol waifushit themed one and not the COOL ASS MECHANICAL EDGY MECH SHIT OR THE COOL LOOKING MESSED UP CONCEPTS OF EDGY CREATION guess what. You're right!
REEEEEEEEEEE FUCKING KONAMI BUFF ASHENED AND REGENESIS YOU BITCH
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>>734139946
Forgetting THE nepo deck?
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>>734140820
tits tits tits tits tits tits tits tits tits tits tits tits tits tits tits tits tits tits tits tits tits tits tits tits tits
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>>734141160
https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/141828128
I too love tits
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>>734140951
yeah
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What site is this? Do they maybe have one listing for multiple cards, or is it individual listings for each card? The former is the only reason I can think to hide the number aside from trying to hide that it's a "bad" number.
Really dumb either way. If someone's dropping money on these things they should know exactly which copy they're getting.
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depends on the theme, i been trying non light/dark normals so they cant get banished. i tried wind dragons, mixing that with kokai miru drago makes some nice deck locks. normal warriors i use the exclusive warrior honest for beat down.
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>>734147880
Let's play a game. How many impact numbers that may fetch more money than the 001 and 100 you can think of.
>Blue Eyes White Dragon 004, the number that started the plot of the whole show
>Dark Magician 005, his LOB number
>Red Eyes Black Dragon, 70 his LOB number
>Dark Magician Girl, 80 somehow that number means big tits in japan same will go for Labrys if she ever gets one and to the spell that has her
>Dark Magician Girl 062, the number of the first episode where she appeared
Also im willing to bet that the 096 of every card will be more expensive than the 100
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For Blue Eyes I bet you that number 4 will be the most expensive of them all and it might become the most expensive Yu-Gi-Oh card of all time.
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why didn't tidying work here?
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>RANDORI WATCH OU-
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Randori watch out!
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>>734151678
Spooky board
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>>734092712
cardfight vanguard is 92% off on steam right now
I think I'm gonna get it since Konami doesn't make any card game videogames anymore, and I really want to play a new card game rpg. it's really fucking sad that ygo has just been abandoned
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>>734152756
What is there to read? Just need to shit out some maids and link that avracunt off
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>>734153234
VGfag here.
The one on sale is the old version. While the base game is 92% off, it was $70 with $130 of DLC for new packs, hence the low score. It is also 3 years off of the current game.
They did it again too, VG Dear Days 2 is 70 dollars and will have just as much DLC.
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>>734153247
dragonmaid player....
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Why do these live in your head rent-free?
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>>734154446
>knows that all of his webms get filtered
>has to look for other people's screenshots to shitpost because he doesn't even play the game
Never change AGschizo, your hate fuels me.
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your dumbass can't even read
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>>734154446
What does that reddit fag have to do with your gay tower having an out?
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Probably not that bad. Modern AG is alright. It just has little room for non-engine, only does one thing, and you have to sit there and watch your opponent combo every game.
The deck's come a long way from its only play being to open AG Fusion+4 bodies to summon Chaos Ancient Gear.
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>>734156326
Pankratops
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>>734155996
The legend says that one day, back when Master Duel was first released, a humble Dragonmaid newbie got matched against him and bodied him. AGschizo, being also a /dbs/spic, couldn't handle the trauma and it's said that to this day, he still tries, and fails, to terrorize the Silver ranks in hopes that he gets matched against another maid player to have his revenge, but an unsung hero always keeps him in check.
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What's the line for Sunny + Griphon?