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Square enix shuts down 10 year old FF14 fan site for flaming Dawntrail developers
https://x.com/squareenix_jp/status/2028323800308396115
https://ff14net.2chblog.jp/archives/63035237.html
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>japs have to pay a fine for shit talking devs
cuck nation
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>>734116112
What do you mean?
>take down your site, apologize and pay us a sum of money or we sue the shit out of you
Japan's legal system is legendarily fucked and the more money and power you have the more likely you are to win. SE has 4000 employees and can do whatever the fuck they want.
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Japan lost
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10 yen "midget" Yoshida very angry
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>>734115958
What are you talking about the anime industry is booming. So much shit is coming out that we could only have dreamed of having back when I started watching in the 90s.
>Frieren
>Dungeon Meshi
>Jujutsu Kaisen
>Demon Slayer
>86
>Baki
>Kengan Ashura
>Da da dan
>Bocchi the Rock
>Yuru Camp
>Cyberpunk Edgerunners
>The Apothecary Diaries
>Mushoku Tensei
>Heike Monogatari
>Gundam Witch of Mercury
>Odd Taxi
>Spy x Family
etc etc, I could go on. So much better than the wave of LN slop we got 10-15 years ago with pandering moeslop garbage like oreimo and monogatari becoming as big as they were. Honestly we can thank gacha and vtubers for that, all the brainless gooners like >>734116231 moved from anime to those hobbies leaving the real fans.
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>>734116098
How would that even work? If I was a YouTuber and SE sent me a "please stop talking shit about us despite the fact that we haven't made a good game in decades oh and pay us money" I think they were out of their minds.
You can't sue people for having an opinion.
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>>734115906
Ahhh... based Japan...
>You get dragged to court and jail time for pirating games.
>You get dragged to court and massive fines for emulating games.
>You get dragged to court and massive fines for modding games.
>You get threatened with court and forced to pay fines for writing something in a blog post the publisher doesn't like.
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>>734115940
>good video games
Hasn't been the case since the early 2000s.
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> We recently filed a request for disclosure of the sender's information regarding the administrator of the website "Netoge News (formerly FF14 News)" (https://ff14net.2chblog.jp/), which published the article, due to the website's content being degrading to the public reputation of the FINAL FANTASY XIV staff.
>public reputation of the FINAL FANTASY XIV staff
Clown world
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>https://x.com/squareenix_jp/status/2028323800308396115
>google translate
are japanese really this pussified?
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>>734117031
>criticized the social standing of ffxiv staff
>degrading to the public reputation of the FINAL FANTASY XIV staff
what does that mean, what did the site say
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>>734117080
It's complicated
You can't actually discuss real people or things without opening yourself up to legal liability
They additionally have no fair use in their copyright law so you can't even identify what you're shitposting about without infringing its copyright
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Recently, Square Enix is under pressure from shareholders due to their financial results. Some of the pressure from shareholders include actual documentation on negative feedback from various social media websites about their games. I reckon since Squeenix can't go after investors, they can go after negative fansites where the investors get their negative feedback from. If all the people who gave negative feedback are arrested, it means there are no negative feedback right?
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https://ff14net-2chblog-jp.translate.goog/archives/63035237.html?_x_tr _sl=ja&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-US&_ x_tr_pto=wapp
americans should sell their freedom to foreign nations so said foreigners can speak their mind through them so they can't be put in harms way just for letting others hear their opinions. how has this now happened yet? you can commodify everything, so why not the american's ability to say almost anything?
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>>734117207
He posted an article that was just the stats of the latest financial report (MMO sector down the shitter) and the comments were full of angry and sad people flaming XIV staff for not fixing the fucking game, which apparently made SE so angry they contacted the Admin right away and raped his anus. The article about the financial stats was posted on februrary 5, then there was random shit on the 6th, and the website has been inactive since then until today.
They got his ass the same fucking day.
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>>734117207
The site said shit. It's posted a news article about FF14 recent financial results. But the key is that the site allows for comments. 5chan shat on Yoshi-P regularly with lots of memes not just on that sites but other too. Because of the comment section, the owner is fined
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>>734117353
>ARR-EWfags finally reaping what they sowed by always defending the devs
HOLY KEK
>>734117482
Financials are really really bad like last quarter we were aware of the game losing 50% of its player from the IR. Imagine how much worse it is now.
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>>734116376
Only two anime on that list can be considered "good", oddtaxi and edgerunners, everything else is unimaginative slop
>>734116112
Japan is a shithole anon, it's basically a third world country, in terms of income, laws, rights it's well behind Poland now
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>>734117427
Japanese defamation law is different from the US in that even if what you said is true, but it can hurt the company's reputation, you can be sued and fined. For example, if a restaurant food is shit that gave you diarrhea, you are legally not allowed to post about that because it would hurt the restaurant's reputation, and they can go after you. You can post
>The food is not good
Or rate them 1 star silently. But if you said
>The food hygiene is not good. The food is shit
You get fined
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>>734117495
I'm surprised anyone responds at all. If some company doesn't like my opinion of them they should go fuck themselves or, god forbid, make better products.
I don't know why so many Anons ITT are pitching this as something that's completely okay in Japan when average Japanese citizens are just as entitled to free speech as most other civilized countries are. You are allowed to have an opinion about a company and not get sued over it, even in Japan, for fucks sake.
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>>734117482
Japanese defamation law forbid it, but Japanese newspapers are protected from defamation law due to journalism. You legally can be attacked if what you are saying is 100% true because it hurts the company image
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>>734115906
Idol culture in Japan, especially idol culture around Japanese devs is such a funny thing. There's an almost cultism with Japs and weebs when it comes to jerking off devs that you'd never see from people who primarily consume western vidya.
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What confuses me is how this makes sense strategically from a corporate perspective.
Shutting down criticism or negative opinions is good for keeping existing fans happy (who want to live in their delusion) and to a certain degree your own staff who don't want to acknowledge that the product they made is bad. But this isn't how you encourage growth, which is the cornerstone of all modern industry. People who AREN'T fans yet, or who were fans but aren't anymore, will see this type of behavior as tyrannical and will be less likely to give your products a chance in the future. Long-term it is not a good idea to shut down criticism like this because you're essentially shitting where you eat and, eventually, the food's going to start tasting weird.
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Giga retard boomers
>>734115906
People handling ff14 became senile boomers and it's very typical of them to be petty like this. It's big issue in Japan with seniority positions in general.
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>>734116376
>Gundam Witch of Mercury
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>>734117832
Unless OP is lying then it seems pretty easy to understand. The site was not criticizing the game, it was attacking the staff personally, which is childish and doesn't help anyone. Unless someone wants to post the offending statements from the blog then we will never know.
I know I don't care, maybe eventually people will realize if they don't like something they can simply not interact with it and they don't need to spend hours of their day every day hyperfixating on it so they can get mad about it.
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>>734117832
If you ever go on Japanese /v/, there would always be a Yoshi-P post on the front page. Imagine a western chairman being posted on /v/ nonstop for years straight. That's the FF14 experience. SE is just lashing out because they can't touch Japanese 4chan
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Square just shot themselves in the foot.
I don't know how much the rest of you know about Japanese culture (I'm an expert), but honor and shame are huge parts of it.
It's not like it is in America where you can become successful by being an asshole. If you screw someone over in Japan, you bring shame to yourself, and the only way to get rid of that shame is repentance.
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>>734117959
i'm imagining that rioght now
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>>734115958
Have you? I was surprised that newer episodes of One Piece look so good, considering it's a weekly anime, and consistently good as well episode after episode. I was used to most episodes of weekly anime looking like slideshows because of the time constraints.
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>He's still playing XIV
Why?
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>>734116376
>86
>Frieren
these are the only actual anime i've enjoyed since shinsekai yori aired. am i missing anything else that i should watch?
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>>734115906
>Japan praising SE and openly admitting to consooming whatever they shit out
There's really no hope, is there?
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>viera still can't wear hats
>use the resources to SLAP random bloggers around
Epic.
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>>734118086
There's Four types of Japanese autism that seemingly plagues millennials to an unhealthy degree.
You're loyal to Sega as a brand.
You're loyal to Nintendo as a brand.
You're loyal to Square Enix as a brand.
You're loyal to Playstation as a brand.
Sega autism can double as Nintendo autism from time to time. Playstation autism can also double as Square Enix autism a lot of the time.
Unfortunately, XIVtards are obviously suffering the Square Enix autism.
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>>734116189
>legal system is legendarily fucked and the more money and power you have the more likely you are to win
You mean just like everywhere else in the world? The more money you throw into litigation the more chances of you winning because the other party ran out of money before you do. The legal system isn't there for justice or anything.
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So let's see if I've got this right: in Japan, the private citizen is actually not allowed to express a negative opinion about a product or the company who made the product in fear of that damaging the company's poorly-defined reputation under defamation law?
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>>734118189
>viera still can't wear hats
Uh
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>>734118306
Try to see it from the Japanese governments retarded perspective:
>our nation needs money and growth
>this money and growth comes primarily from corporate taxation and corporate employment
>the bigger the corporations are the more people the employ and the more tax money they pay us
>therefor it is in our best interest to protect those corporations in any way possible
>even if it is at the cost of our private citizenry (which we don't care about because the pay less taxes)
That being said there is a reason Japan's economy is one of the fastest dying economies on the planet and why their suicide rate is through the roof while all innovation is practically dead.
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>>734118397
>innovation is practically dead.
Innovation is dead because there is a group of grandfathered in corporations that owns every conceivable copyright related to their industries to "protect the industry from outsider disruption", which means only old farts approved personals are allowed for innovation. But that is a different topic
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It's grim
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>if you hurt companies "feelings" you get sued
>99% guilty conviction rate
>completely innocent people getting lied, gaslit, psychologically and phisically tortured by the police to confess to a crime they never commited because it's the right thing to do for society
Weebs on /v/ told me that Japan is fucking amazing and what every country should shamelesly emulate. Have i been lied to?
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>>734116376
This list doesn't have my wife's anime in it
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>donation to black charities
>100000000 yen
>donation to trans charities
>100000000 yen
>anti-fan-complaint lawsuit funds
>10000000 yen
>budget for FF XIV writing team
100 yen
Someone help, for some reason peoole don't like the game's writing.
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Kek, they've even got bots to defend Nomura in their replies.
https://x.com/KH05376350/status/2028340959222903102
https://x.com/Psychrein06/status/2028398859718709459
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>>734118721
These are PPP adjusted so Japan still has a edge over Poland when purchasing goods like semiconductors but yeah, they're gonna be left in the dust soon.
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Negative feedback is important to improvement, but Japan actively WANTS to be a yes-man eco-chamber. Which kinda sorta worked when major companies like Squaresoft were on the top of the world, but when they aren't doing as well it is the correct time to listen for criticism to best find out what it is that is going wrong. The problem is that they've essentially groomed their population into a "silent protest" group who would rather just not buy your products and never tell you why, because they can be sued for doing so if the context isn't right.
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>Be the only game director to add himself to MTG in your path
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I started playing recently out of curiosity and this fagfest is mostly dead and a shithole. 95% of people just sit around AFK doing jack fuck all and 95% of the time they aren't its to pretend-fuck another homosexual.
Shite game from a shite company.
I'll get to the trans-dog story and delete this shit from my PC. Shame about the rest of it, so far as FF is concerned I've not been having a bad time in the story.
So I'm just having a good time, going through the MSQ, I get to the samurai town Kugane or whatever, out of curiosity I see if the hot springs is anything interesting.
All faggot NPCs. All of them.
The fuck happened to Japan. Deleting this shit ASAP
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>>734117883
He is thinking about shutting the site down to protect himself.
http://blog.livedoor.jp/umadori0726/archives/63045550.html
>正直、ブログ運営を続けるべきか迷っているところ…。誹謗中傷などのコメントをする方はスマホでIPを何度も変えてコメントするため対応しきれず。
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>>734119225
Eh, there's one or two decent ones on that list, but it's mostly garbage.
>>734116376
>complains about LN slop
>posts mostly LN slop adaptations
amazing
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>>734118831
Unironic bootlickers
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The golden age of Final Fantasy had well structured story, the player felt like the MC, and you didn't want to put the game down or take breaks.
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Of course they're losing money. Kitase needs to be ordered by Emperor Naruhito to seppuku.
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>>734118058
>newer episodes of One Piece look so good
Posts like this are why sakugaslop is mainstream and ceaseless.
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>>734119225
>Your taste is... le shit!
>It just is ok
>Uh no I won't post anything I think is better, that would be gay
I feel genuinely bad for you. You are unable to enjoy anything, permanently trapped in a cynical, contrarian, irony-poisoned state. I hope that as you get older you learn to like things again.
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They doxed the admins of the website forum, they are forcing them to make a public apology, shut down the website, and then pay Square Enix.
What was it they did you ask? They criticised the public facing developers for FF14. No really that was it.
They didn't dox anyone, they didn't attack the low level devs, they reposted articles from other games websites like PC gamer discussing FF14.
It was incredibly tame compared to what happens on here.
This is amazing kek, just absolutely how to speedrun nuking your final, last bits of good will towards your own player base and MMO community, this web forum was huge in Japan for FF14, so this is such a retarded move by SE.
I think it's fucking hilarious to see how desperate FF14 has become after the failure of Dawntrail they think by suing their own players, their own fans they can stop people quitting their game.
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Holy shit, you can't buy this level of bad press, how are SE this retarded? HOW KEK holy shit my sides have gone interstellar
https://ff14net.2chblog.jp/archives/63035237.html
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>>734120886
So is this only a thing they can do in Japan? Or does yoship know that if he goes after any western sites he’ll get his ass raped?
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>>734120886
Read the comments from here
>>734120814
There are bots posting but then you can tell real comments like this
>I seriously got the information here, so I guess I won't know about the update information for 14 anymore.
Once I enter the indifferent phase, it's all over.
>>734120886
Also you do not post negatively on Twitter/ X or the Official forums, which is why this forum was so popular because it allowed people to speak their minds freely without fear of being identified.
It's like a cult over there, they have to prove to the social group how much they are willing to prostrate themselves that they are good people, no one believes what they're saying it's all an act "Yes Square Enix you're such a good company we believe in you!"
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The sad part you could objectively prove that Dawntrail sucks in court but still lose according to Japan's law.
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>>734120886
They're not, you're reading bot comments on social media.
This is what people really think.
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>There are bots posting but then you can tell real comments like this
I actually believe it
I dont think any real human not being paid by square would ever defend this
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I like reading comments like this on here "well with the negative comments deleted for good the game will improve, right?
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>>734116376
Holy shit. There truly are braindead slopeaters who will blindly watch anything as long as it's animu and don't even understand the concept of good or bad, it's all good as long as it comes from that one specific place. Fucking grim.
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Well guess what Square Enix next quarter's numbers are going to be even lower.
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>>734121151
It's the former disguised as the latter. XIV staff notoroiusly are thin-skinned and take criticism very badly. There was an infamous situation a couple of years ago when JP fans were criticizing the nerfing of the Samurai class, and Yoshi-P actually made a blog post on the Global XIV site basically begging fans not to criticize the staff.
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>>734116376
>Gundam Witch of Mercury
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>>734116402
Japanese specimens think the rest of the world has the same homoerotically submissive relationship to megacorporations as they do.
Every culture has their own way to be a cringe corpo-rimmer expert, but japs do it in a particularly alien way.
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Can Mabinogi Mobile just come out in the west already? Japan clearly doesn't understand what gamers want anymore.
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It's complicated and a bit of a long story I'll try to summarise the best I can
Dawntrail caused a lot and I mean a lot of people to quit FF14.
It's the first big time since the game initially launched in it's first version there has ever been this level of criticism towards the game.
The damn broke against long standing issues and people had had enough and were venting their frustrations.
They weren't happy about the combat, the story, the graphics update, the lack of action against cheaters and then seeing the lack of actions to user complaints and requests from the devs, people were wanting to see YoshiP take seriously these complaints and address them in a Live Letter for transparency like he had done back in the 1.x days.
He did not do that, instead he got drunk on a Mahjong streams and the complaints got so bad they had to close the live chat.
Wuk Lamat was also banned in all Square Enix live chats along with all emotes that looked like Lions because the character was so unpopular
I'm skipping over some other scandals and events but all of this culminated in early 2025 where Square Enix sent out a press release stating they will no longer tolerate criticism and negativity towards their developers and will take the harshest action possible up to and including legal action against people who criticise their staff.
The official FF14 forums for the Japanese side are heavily moderated and any negativity, complaints or criticisms are banned, you need to have an active subscription to the game to post on the forums, so SE were banning their own players instead of addressing their complaints, this led to frustration upon frustration and places like this blog website blowing up in popularity.
They would mostly repost Game news articles about FF14 but they have an open comment section under the article and people would discuss the game openly, still all Anon but it was basically a 'lite' version of 4chan /v/ threads for FF14.
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Ironic. I've noticed that SquareEnix is in a ~10 year time lag. As far as they are concerned its peak woke, leftist mind virus with tranny worship, cancel culture and crybullying the norm. They haven't moved with the pendulum, and that's why they will cease to exist before the end of this decade.
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>SLOP SLOP SLOP SLOP SLOP SLOP SLOP SLOP SLOP
You have no ability to think critically. Your brain has been replaced with memes.
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>>734115994
>WoW won
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>>734121412
They made a whole game series about this…
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Not really related but I remember when I was working in Japan and there was a typhoon and I basically had to swim to get out of the area I was living in to get to work. So I call my boss and he says if I can't come in I have to take the day off using my pto, and I fucking say that I'm basically underwater at this point, and he responds that it wouldn't be fair for everyone that's already at the office for me to get a free day off. Fuck Japan
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>>734121292
Maybe the japanese should just look at how americans and chinese make fun of people and copy that
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>>734121449
For another example of this, see FFXVI being a Game of Thrones action game with zero RPG elements and releasing 8 years after that style of game fell out of fashion. Meanwhile yoship says turn based is outdated while a turn based game sells Skyrim numbers that same year.
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>>734121432
So this resulted in this unofficial news reposter website being doxed by Square Enix/ FF14, finding out who ran the website, forcing them to issue an apology, forcing them to close the website, and paying a settlement to Square Enix.
See here the apology they were forced to write.
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But anon, you're consuming slop, you're watching a show that primes you to buying figures, LNs and other stuff like fumos or nendos. You're watching ads and enjoying it, by definition you're consuming slop
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People are saying this is because of something they said towards the developers, but I disagree the articles on there were incredibly tame and would only talk about the public facing developers not unnamed devs.
What I think has got them in trouble with SE are all the financial reports, all the negativity towards SE's financials and how badly FF14 has been performing, I think that's what is more than likely to have done this.
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To put this in perspective: If laws and social sentiment were the same in the US as they are in Japan, Blizzard could have sued, silenced and received money from every single news site and blog that posted about the cosbey suit and the breastmilk bandits a few years ago. It is absolutely insane how retarded SE is being here.
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>>734121725
With an MMO community it's different from doing this to a single player offline game.
It won't affect SE's reputation in NA or Eu, they won't pay attention to it, but it will fundamentally change things in JP.
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>During the time of FF11, 2ch was the main platform and there were no summaries.
14 was just about horses and this place was ranked higher than 5ch.
>Let's go back to 5ch.
They're just going back to their chan boards, which will be a much harder egg to crack.
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>>734121560
Damn. I'm a die-hard fan but fuck these dudes. Instead of fixing their crappy game they resort to sueing critics? Really?
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The site has been out for 10+ years and they have been exclusively posting about XIV. Until the most recent expansion, it was all positive, the 'worst' articles were about cheating in high end raiding. Now with DT the studio legitimately delivered an awful, awful product and hasn't shown a single bit of willingness to course correct. Them now lashing out on a site that is just reporting on bad financials and that the sentiment towards the game has soured is extremely poor optics.
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>>734121753
Right
Because we arent talking about this
This is horrible pr GLOBALY
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>>734121847
Square is riding a wave of legislature and news regarding カスハラ, customer harassment. This has originated in the retail/service industry, where customers became more and more rude (this has a lot to do with the economic situation in Japan; for the first time in forever the country experienced inflation and wages haven't moved in 20 years), but now corporations like Square, who really shouldn't give a flying fuck about that, use it as a beating stick against any criticism aimed at them.
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>>734121954
It's a dying game that never quite launched into real success and now SE wants to treat people like this?
Who are you, who are you to tell others not to take this seriously.
Let alone that the game is massively full of trans pedo groomers.
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>>734121847
And here I was thinking Blizzard was the most pozzed company to date. SE has proven both with their shit pozzed games, but also with behavior befitting of a Stalinist communist ruler, that as a company, they have left the realm of reality years ago. RIP Final Fantasy, it was good while it lasted. The shitty Lightning faggotry should have opened the eyes of everyone back then.
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There's only one good show on that list.
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>>734121954
It's not that people have ADHD. It's that every die-hard fanbase, be it in WoWshit or XIV Pozztrail, will never, and I mean it - never stop playing these games no matter what happens. Even if they got banned, they'd just buy a new account, do everything to play again. It's a real addiction. Even if the retail servers closed, they'd search out private servers to keep playing. As long as something significant doesn't impact their ability to play the game, they will continue to do so.
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>>734122269
>the ship was so hated, the lion mans VA got banned and blacklisted from the entire entertainment industry in Japan
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>>734122159
These are the only references to waterfalls I can find from 7.0:
Alisaie: Look at those falls... Even from this distance, you can feel the weight of that water!
Alisaie: I'd love to stand at the bottom of those huge waterfalls and bask in the majesty of it all! Pity they're so far away.
Alisaie: The water from the falls must flood the wetlands and flow into all these streams and rivers...
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>>734117245
Right refers to feudalism, rule by rich lords; aka corporations at this point. There is no left in the US. Left is something like Hitler where the government works for the benefit of the people against the rich.
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>>734121449
I mean just look at that new Dissidia trailer they put out a few days ago for even more proof of this.
It looks absolutely horrible. Unbelievably so. The character models, the animations... it's all ultra low budget that it would have looked bad 10 years ago, and looks absolutely embarrassing by any modern anime game standard.
But because the boomers running SE are quite literally stuck in early 2000s, they somehow thought it was a good idea to release it.
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>>734120994
In Japan you can apparently get sued to hell for defamation for hurting someone's business, even if you publish or repost objectively verifiable facts. You can get sued for a negative review unless you can demonstrate what you said is not only true but also "serves public interest".
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>>734122576
>they left the comment section on
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0UPQ1G9K5UI
Youtube is gonna get sued for sure.
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>>734122618
Well yeah it's a self fulfilling prophecy
>my in game friends aren't quitting so I'm not going to quit either or I risk never being able to play with them again
It's just a large group of people getting stockholm syndromed into playing a game they might not even like anymore.
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Bots and low IQ third worlders. There are Indians posting in response to this on X supporting Square Enix.
I don't think they're fans either, I think they're Jeet coders and 'moderators' for SE doing it.
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>>734122793
To understand this mentality in Indians one has to understand the Indian mentality. They worship over 3000 different Gods. To them any figure of authority or company that is in a position of authority is worthy of worship and reverence.
It goes beyond being a fan, a fanatic, it is worship.
They do worship Square Enix or Rockstar or whatever game company they have attached themselves to. They see the people who represent these companies as prophets, that they can almost walk on water that's how Holy and reverent they are.
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>>734122842
Yes, that is why his XIV OC is in the game instead of the games usual rep. Feel free to guess how that OC looks like.
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>>734115906
Yup. I am never touching XIV ever again. Fuck JeetEnix. They obviously have no intention of wiping their ass. They're just going to go after critics like a bunch of retarded niggers.
That's how you know they're beyond redemption. They're so fucking dumb holy shit.
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>>734122216
>This will piss more people off than endear them to the company and their games.
They're probably betting on the language barrier to keep them safe overseas. Unrelated shit, but similar to how Blizzard handled that one prize winner ban years ago by posting "we're just a politically neutral company UwU" on English social media while saying shit like "we will always prioritize upholding China's national integrity" on the Chinese-facing accounts.
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>>734117605
At least try not to be hyperbolic. If it is not of the public interest, then reputation damage can be recovered even if the statements are true. So, in the case of a restaurant giving people diarrhea, that can be in the public interest. On the other hand, knowing that the janitor cheated on his wife with the neighbor is not in the public interest.
Yes, it does get abused, and corporations do what corporations do and try to argue something is not in the public interest when it clearly is, but that doesn't just mean it is flatly, "Oh, a reputation was harmed therefore the speaker is fucked."
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>>734122640
Every time I see something new from this company it's somehow worse than what came before it. Turning a your 3D arena fighter into a soulless auto-battle gacha game comes across as dangerously retarded.
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>>734122926
>its second from the right
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>>734116402
Nintendo literally stopped people from talking about Smash until the community begged them to reconsider
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>>734123106
It's like Kiryu was pulled aside and told that Square Enix has a quota for retardation that they have to fulfill every so often (lest they magically wither away into dust), and that killing Sony exclusivity deals means they now have to make up for it BIG TIME in other areas.
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>Zero likes
Kek
Ok now that the 'negative' people can't post anymore and are gone, this means Final Fantasy 14 will improve right? It means the game will be good now right? R-right?
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>>734116376
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>>734122876
>go ahead and post about pirating pokemon in japanese and you'll have 5000 of the little pingpongs screeching at you
You don't even have to do that much. A couple years ago, a vtuber (I think Pekora?) bought some lot of used GBA Pokemon carts, played them on stream, and faced a torrent of harassment and reports to Nintendo for her unwittingly having carts with hacked Pokemon on them. Jap normalfags are actually soulless husks and have legendarily shit taste in video games.
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>>734123501
This might be just what kills off the game for good.
How can you have an MMO where you kill entire websites that are made because of the love for the game, dox the people running it, force them to write an apology and then make them pay you settlement money for 'harassment'.
All FF14 is going to be from now on is nothing but complete positive comments, if people thought the toxic positivity was bad before, it's nothing compared to what it's going to be from now on.
Game will stagnate even further because everyone will be too afraid to criticise anything in the game that needs changing or addressed.
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>>734123818
>I think that was more of a vtuber/peko anti thing than a nintendo fanboy thing
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>>734115940
You should be more impressed that they make such good doujins, considering derivative content is illegal by default and you are completely at copyright holders' mercy in terms of enforcement.
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>>734120624
You unironically have great taste. I love being a japanimation fan.
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>>734115940
Japan always had very strict libel rules. These blogger's mistake is that they were doxxing and sharing personal details, they were not talking about the game but the employees and that will get you shut down in an instant. In Japan you can't talk shit about anybody even if it's true.
Another thing about Japan is their 99% conviction rate, you don't want to do any type of crime there or you are going straight to jail.
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>>734117792
>"Last episode was peak"
>30 seconds of fighting
> 2 minutes of talking while interesting fights happen in the background
>Repeat until episode is done
Uh huh
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>>734123790
You need to understand a company doesn't want to be "good", it wants to make money. Negative comments are seen by SE as a potential danger to money making, as it MIGHT turn current/possible customers away from their products. They don't want that, no company does. It doesn't matter what is true and wrong. If shitting on SE made them more money, that's what they would encourage.
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>>734124090
Yeah with some caveat
>The people criticising you ain't anonymous
>The people criticising you live in Japan
>You have the money to sue
Like stars in Japan does it all the time. They may be a turbo sluts or cheat on their spouse or even abuse their children, but as long as it "doesn't affect the public" nobody can say shit to them without being sued. So be as horrible as you like
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>>734124040
This is for their new FF dissidia mobile game.
They have comments turned off, they don't eve have likes Likes enabled. The fuck?
Are these Jeets so retarded that videos that get picked up by Youtubes algorithm, that are more popular are the ones that get engagement, with comments and people liking the video?
So they're a video game company that doesn't like to be a video game company, that tries to limit the size of it's reach because they're afraid of people criticising and being negative towards them?
Might just be about the most special snowflake, cotton ball vidya company I've seen, or at least it's up there, in the top ten at least.
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>>734124072
It existed before the draconian copyright law did and basically got grandfathered in, so to say. Right now yeah anon's right if a company woudl want to ban it they could. Though idk how enforcement would go
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>>734116963
No. Before EW he knew he was one fuck up away from getting shit canned. But since the fans were somewhat understanding of the delay of EW's launch he now has a Kojima level arrogance and straight up refuses to believe critique if XIV is legitimate now. That being said, with the shit show that is DT he is very likely feeling the heat from his higher-ups.
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>>734124072
Doujin culture is a paper bag compromise.
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>>734124024
The 99% figure doesn't come from the fact that police are doing their job well. It's that police ONLY prosecutes cases where they're 100% sure to win. That's the actual problem in Japan, too much shit goes unpunished and the only ones that EVER get punished are the average people, not even crime lords like Yakuza.
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>>734124072
Same way Pachinko and other gambling shit makes for 5% of the yearly GDP of Japan, despite it being officially forbidden by law. It has been around for a long time and people would be very, very pissed if companies went against that.
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>>734124367
There was a lot of comments about it being pay to win so they premeditatedly shut it down
>3v3 tactical command PVP
>But all units have to be rolled in the gacha
>And their equipment are from the Gacha
>And their abilities are from the Gacha too
>To unlock the Gacha you need a Battle Pass to actually start rolling
>The story is locked behind Battle Pass
>Progression is locked behind PvP unless you pay
It's a game solely designed for whales
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>>734124412
>That being said, with the shit show that is DT he is very likely feeling the heat from his higher-ups.
I am half-half on Yoshida. His comment about 'not having enough resources' during a live letter seemed to be more directed at the upper management.
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>>734124395
Good animation is like good cinematography, the cinematographer did their job but that doesn't magically make it good just because the visuals are pretty, especially when the quality of the story doesn't warrant the level of cinematography it gets.
> like half of those don't even have spectacle as main appeal.
I'm too lazy to breakdown each one, (Baki is obvious) but JJK and Frieren 100% are only mainstream because of the sakuga animations. If it wasn't for the le epic fight scene animations Fieran wouldn't have gotten anywhere near popular.
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>>734124546
>3v3 tactical command PVP
>But all units have to be rolled in the gacha
>And their equipment are from the Gacha
This is so ass
>And their abilities are from the Gacha too
HUH? What? How?
>To unlock the Gacha you need a Battle Pass to actually start rolling
Nigger what???
>The story is locked behind Battle Pass
>Progression is locked behind PvP unless you pay
WHAT??
Explain.
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>>734124370
There is precedent of enforcement, Gridman banned all doujins of itself (and got slammed for it), and Uma Musume goes specifically after futa content. Individual doujins can be pulled too if the publisher really doesn't like them. But most people realise that doujn culture is free advertisment for them so they let it all slide.
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>>734124586
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I used to be Luke with the force
That boy don't live here anymore
That boy was never into sports
I carried the Olympic torch
Please don't get too close, you might get scorched
White Havaianas and some shorts
They think I'm stealin' in this store
I'm winnin' dirty boy awards
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>>734115906
>Square enix shuts down 10 year old FF14 fan site for flaming Dawntrail developers
Now tell us the real reason they shut down the site. Were the Japanese fans stalking and harrassing the devs? They're famous for that sort of thing.
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>Trailer for new Expac drops during fan fest
>It looks cool
>Music is good
>Blitzball is the new flagship class
>yfw Wuk Lemat out of nowhere
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>>734116376
bro youre so fucking stupid modern anime caters to a global market now driven with amerimuttoid pie chart mutants at the forefront. they haven like 20 years left tops before Japan demographics will be mixed heavily with Nigerian and Indian genetics so hopefully this entire mistake of a country and industry goes down the toilet with it
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>love the game to death in 6.0, like slurp up everything about it and spin every negative into a positive
>actually sparked a light in my heart, hopeful and naive enough to think that FF is actually back again after 15 years of despair
>now dont even feel anything about it, like complete apathy after seeing the new fiasco
>just think to myself "Oh that's classic squeenix."
I'm just waiting for 8.0 to release and lose any hope I have left for FF,
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>HUH? What? How?
Skill upgrade and alternative skill set. You need multiple copies to fully use a character at full power btw
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>Nigger what???
You need a Battle Pass to unlock the Gacha banner
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>WHAT??
>Explain.
The game gives you a free Battle Pass to start your journey through the story mode and a few free roll for starter unit. But when the Battle Pass expires, the story and Gacha banner are locked until you have enough in game currency to unlock the Battle Pass, which unlock game functions. The only way to earn currency is from winning PvP or paying
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i think its funny the inverse relationship between public opinion and the state of the expansion
dawntrail has some of the better content in the game, even down to holiday events, because they can see that people are quitting and reviews are low so they're scrambling to trying to hook people back
meanwhile endwalker had jack shit to do because they knew everyone was sucking the game off nonstop so they didn't bother working and every holiday event was talk to 3 people slop
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>>734116963
He was always like this, think about it. The criticism of ff14 1.0 wasn't directed at him but the original guys responsible for that disaster, so he was more than happy to apologise and do the head bowing because in his mind he wasn't apologising for his own fuck ups but the company.
He knew he was there to fix it and was getting ego boosted by the people around him who requested he move from Enix side working on Dragon Quest to FF to work on FF14 to manage the team.
Then over the years, after it was fixed he became very much beloved by both the company and people for a time people would say that 'Yoshida can turn a turd into gold', that was his reputation.
He had that reputation along with game news articles calling him the 'Super Star game developer' whenever they referred to him.
But then FF16 released, FF14 Endwalker post patch drought, and FF14 Dawntrail and it completely shattered that image.
He has never had to deal with this level of scrutiny and criticism that he has had to experience over the last few years.
Yes he's been in 'emergency' situations with FF14 1.0 but that was an 'emergency' sitatuon not of his own making so his own ego was not in play.
This however, is a situation of his own making he is very much the most responsible for how FF14 (and ff16 complete lack of interest among ff fans and how it didn't resonate) Dawntrail has failed, how they've lost so many players.
He is directly responsible because instead of being transparent with players, he's gone radio silent to only then come out with threatening messages about if you criticise the devs the company will take action against you.
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>>734124927
I wonder why that is Anon, I wonder why that is?
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>The game gives you a free Battle Pass to start your journey through the story mode and a few free roll for starter unit. But when the Battle Pass expires, the story and Gacha banner are locked until you have enough in game currency to unlock the Battle Pass, which unlock game functions. The only way to earn currency is from winning PvP or paying
This is the most backwards ass way of doing this. This basically means you either have to grind through whales in PvP or pay a monthly sub for the privileged of spending money on gacha banners? Are they for real?
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>>734117643
Aside from being a bootlicker, this entire post is just retarded
>it's not about repressing free speech
>it's just that you think differently from most people
>that makes you subhuman trash who shouldn't exist
>as such, this corporation is good for using its money, power and influence to oppress you
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>>734124987
>The story
>Alphinaud and Alisaie losing all brain cells and memory of the various times they interacted with other cultures
>Everyone except for Krile being fine with the Alexandrians voring souls for 1-UPs because it's 'their culture'
>Wuk Lemat forcing herself into shit that doesn't involve her
>The general retardation of Tural
>Krile getting straight up cucked out of her big story moment because the portal needed authorisation from someone who didn't exist when it was built even though she has the fucking key to it
The raids are the only good part.
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>>734124986
Just to be clear, he did not direct FF16. You and a lot of other people like you seem to mistakenly think he did. The game actually had two directors, neither was Yoshi P. I think it's kind of stupid how only with this game do people completely ignore the actual directors and act like one of the Producers is responsible for everything in the game. I don't play or care about FF14 at all so I have no opinion on him but when I see posts like this from people who clearly do it just makes me think you guys have a hate boner for him because as I said, I have never seen a producer get so much flak for how a game turned out over the director and this game had TWO directors making decisions that weren't Yoshi P.
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>>734115906
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>>734118641
Why do you think SO MANY manga and anime have themes about living free from societal expectations, or how just being different is enough to make people want to kill you, or how the power structure is comically corrupt and evil, or literally just wanting to die.
The pressure to conform is high everywhere in east asia, but it is soul-crushing in Japan.
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>um he didn't actually direct xvi he just approved of the decisions made by the directors and defended those decisions extensively in the media
there were a lot of his ideas in there.
and its not just a hate boner directed at him, xvi is an example of how out of touch the entire company is.
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>Ashleytroon enjoys modern slop like Frieren or Demon Slayers
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>The game gives you a free Battle Pass to start your journey through the story mode and a few free roll for starter unit. But when the Battle Pass expires, the story and Gacha banner are locked until you have enough in game currency to unlock the Battle Pass, which unlock game functions. The only way to earn currency is from winning PvP or paying
This sounds like some outrageously made up bullshit by professional doomposters, but considering the stories of how much people had wasted on other SquareEnix mobile games, that probably could be true.
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>>734124859
ShB and EW were very, very good about pulling your heartstrings. Sadly, with EW they just ended XIV and DT was supposed to reignite it, failing catastrophically in it because they moved from a fantasy game to a futuristic raid simulator.
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>>734125330
Your greentext isn't very convincing because you didn't address the actual point I made: No one ever gives a shit who producers are on a game or blames them over directors... except in this situation when it's a very public facing well known figure. Did you even know he wasn't the director before I told you?
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>>734125469
Because they don't actually matter and make very few decisions on a day to day level so producers rarely matter unless they made a bade buisness decision related to monetization or something. Or in this case, because people have a hate boner for a public figure and want to blame him over the people who were more responsible. I don't see how you think you're doing anything with this post other than either agreeing with my point or demonstrating you don't get my point. If you wanna shit talk FF16, why don't you shit talk the actual directors? Because you're dumb and have a hate boner for a guy and want to provide "good reasons" he's bad at his job when in reality other people dropped the ball way more than he did. Again I ask, did you even know he wasn't the director before I told you? Why do you keep dodging this question?
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>>734125634
But you didn't say that in your original post, you blamed a man for a game failing when he wasn't even one of the two directors, the role in game dev that has the most effect and control on the final product. You're only now saying this after I pointed out how stupid you are. You also refuse to address a remarkably simple question: Before I posted in this thread, did you think Yoshi P directed FF16? It's becoming really clear that you did in fact think that which is not surprising because I have seen a lot of slack-jawed MMO players with a hate boner for Yoshi P make that mistake. I guess you guys are too busy on your hate crusade to do a simple google search. MMO players are truly sub-human.
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>>734125730
i didn't make the original post. the fact is yoship was the one jerking off in interviews about how xvi was the next coming of christ and that the fans needed to shut up and take it. only for a turn based game to outsell it 7x over just 2 months later.
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>>734125891
>third world incel wants to talk about platforms
You are aware you are being made fun of because European and American locales of windows have auto corrected “i” into I going all the way back to windows 95, before you were born. It’s literally only Indians and SEA that does this shit
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>>734125986
>i
No one who is coherent does this, see
>>734126009
You genuinely do not understand it is the ultimate symbol of being an ESL and living in some of the biggest shitholes on the planet. It was being corrected by technology before smartphones and auto correct even truly existed.
You’re existence is literally a joke
>i
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Theres a truth in that people bitching and moaning online isnt very valuable.
The capitalistic system leads to games that attempt to make more money, and this is essentially people trying to coerce something to change to appeal to non-gamer whiners.
if you ever visited kcd2 threads on /v/ you'd know how these people are. People who havent played a game spamming polshit or repulsive imagery to achieve making other people miserable for having played a game and trying to discuss it. Them being executed would make the world a happier place.
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>>734125828
So your point is that people make the same mistake with another game? How exactly does that prove what I am saying is wrong? I am calling people who do that retarded. Yes, there are also a lot of retarded people that think Todd directed games he didn't. The fact that happens with another series in a similar situation doesn't prove me wrong, it proves me right you ape. Can you try to actually articulate your point with multiple sentences like a big boy that doesn't play MMOs?
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>i
No, you do not. Even if you’re an Indian who refuses to remove the activate windows timestamp “i” would have been auto corrected. You are Indian or SEA which is the same shit really. Subhuman and will die early due to their shitholes life expectancy
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>No, you do not.
yes i do
anyway, what does this have to do with yoship and ffxvi again?
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i dont care who directed the game. they all suck.
>>734126246
what are you babbling about?
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>>734126281
>i
Yep, Indian or SEA. You’re even doing the kitboga thing where you get exposed and trolled for 30 straight minutes
>but SAR what about the google play card! Saaar the card sar we talking about the card
No, we are talking about how
>i
Shows you’re a subhuman thirdie who’s going to die before me, nice life expectancy in your shithole
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>>734126281
>i dont care who directed the game. they all suck.
I know you don't care, that's why I am calling you retarded. You are genuinely one of the least intelligent and most pathetic people I have spoken to on this site and that is not hyperbole. Legitmately making arguements for me and when I point that out, "um i not care or capitalize words cause all suck adn dumb cept me". You got me anon.
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>>734126591
is this a bot? or some raid? it just came out of nowhere.
anyway i still live in america and your posts are still off topic so idk what your game is.
>>734126529
what are you even babbling about at this point?
wasn't this your first post?
>>734125218
im so very sorry people are slandering your beloved producer
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>>734126067
When people lose internet arguments they scramble to latch onto any perceived fault, real or imagined, to try to piece their shattered ego back together, because the alternative would be to have some introspection about what they think. Better to shitpost over and over until you get bored and close the thread than to even consider the possibility that they are simply wrong.
Such is life in the modern Internet.
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>>734118641
>>99% guilty conviction rate
Almost every country has a conviction rate of higher than 90% because almost every case ends with a plea deal of some sort or a settlement before it even gets to court (which is the same in Japan). For Japan, the even higher rate is largely because prosecutors only every pursue basically guaranteed cases, rather than it being something where they don't let people defend themselves.
>>completely innocent people getting lied, gaslit, psychologically and phisically tortured by the police to confess to a crime they never commited because it's the right thing to do for society
This happens in every country. There are famous cases of people being coerced and manipulated into confessing to crimes that literally did not even occur (i.e. the Tom Perez case, where he was browbeaten into confessing to the murder of his father, who was alive)
Not defending Japan's legal system, because it is generally worse than most countries, it's just that the extent to which it's worse is exaggerated in threads like this. Just expressing annoyance that literally all legal systems in every country are corrupt bullshit that essentially hinge upon abusing the ignorance of normal people, who are incapable and unequipped to parse how opaque they are. And so officials (police and lawyers) take advantage of that for their own benefit. Don't get complacent that you're not in danger of just as much bullshit fucking you over randomly from your own judicial system while you're scoffing at Japan's retarded system.
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>>734124859
Still no beastmaster btw
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>>734124024
>Another thing about Japan is their 99% conviction rate, you don't want to do any type of crime there or you are going straight to jail.
that's just because jp prosecutors are cowards who refuse to do their work when there's a small chance they can lose
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>>734125218
Did I say he directed FF16? He was the Producer and in Japanese game development the Producer is the big boss, he was still responsible.
He gets the 'flak' because he gets the praise. How can you be this stupid and not understanding company hierarchy, he has the most responsibility but in returns gets paid the most, and gets the most renown when the game is being praised.
I had to dumb this down because you're so stupid this basic fundamental seems to not register with you.
Reality vs your feelings.
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>>734125637
>Fans will do anything but blame the company. It's why they rage at random people on the internet instead
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XIV is absolute clown show now.
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>>734115958
>le modern anime XD
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>>734121646
The comments sections were almost entirely unmoderated and people could get pretty... intense. JP gamers are crazy when they get pissed off about something.
I've looked all over and can't find a confirmed reason why this happened just speculation. Is this how it is in Japan? We'll never actually know?
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>>734116376
Good picks, yeah there's more decent SoL shows but these are just better and for a reason.
This is on par with seasonals from two decades ago like Haruhi or SZS. People just have nostalgia.
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>>734124654
Maybe but it's pretty well known SE funnels money FFXIV makes into its other AAA flops, they even regularly take people from the XIV team for other shit.
Yoshida has often complained about how he doesn't have enough programmers throughout the years as well and how it's hard to find any due to SE's requirements.
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>>734115958
Popeye mogs 90 percent of anime.
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>>734127949
his phrasing certainly isn't helping things
"cancelled due to lack of cost" was more "we don't have enough employees to make it on time"
but because it was translated as "cost" people thought he was just being a cheapskate
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>>734126896
>making up your own interpretation of intent after the fact
That's cute but it doesn't work on people with normal intelligence
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>>734127646
What made it worse, is the places people tried to share reasonable criticisms like the Official Forums, or even Twitter, they were banned from the forums and brigaded by discordgayops anime profile pictures on twitter.
So people got frustrated, they were banned in the live chats on twitch and youtube when trying to air their criticisms which were mild but because they kept getting shut down they got more and more frustrated and the blog site ended up acting like an Alcoholics Anonymous where people aired out their grievances.
Think about it, I saw plenty people complaining about the graphics update ruining their character or Wuk Lamat replacing their own MC in the MSQ, they were banned for it. That there alone banning a paid player from the forums, something they have to pay a sub for in order to access will absolutely piss someone off further if they're already annoyed with a pain point in the game.
This what they've done to the blog site is so fucking retarded, it's like SE and FF14 think if they do this, force the admins to pay them a settlement, force a public apology that somehow it'll make all those thousands of people already annoyed with the state of the game, it'll somehow make them go away, if anything it'll give them more motivation to shit on SE and FF14.
What a shit show.
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>>734125635
How are XIV players cucks when large numbers of them have actually just stopped subbing to the game over their displeasure? SE is scrambling to win people back.
That sounds like the opposite of cuckoldry to me.
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>>734126646
Just ignore the kiddies. They know you're right about the state of SE and their games in general, so they'll resort to the only thing left for them to do - calling you brown and 3rd world. They're that mad and mindbroken.
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>>734127768
>timeless classics
Lol.
If any of these anime were shown today, you would call them modern shit. It's common thing for "born in the wrong generation" to build personality around watching/playing old trash because they think it's make them special. It's a safe choice because you can use "timeless classics" as shield from any criticism. "Timeless classics" is the most popular anime majority called good, but when the same majority call current ongoings good your "born in the wrong generation" /v/tard experiences cognitive dissonance.
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>How are XIV players cucks when large numbers of them have actually just stopped subbing to the game over their displeasure?
It's cuckoldry to still be subbed, not to be unsubbed.
Over 1million characters have quit since the start of Dawntrail, the majority did quietly quit. They did take the advice of so many Forum defenders who said "if you don't like it, just quit!" well they did.
Now SE are fucked without that juicy sub money they're having to resort to using lawfare and intimidation against the little guy complaining on an obscure website.
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>>734129016
>great anime
Someone told you they were great after grace period of 10+ years. But with modern ongoing anime you need to make your own opinions. And those opinions affected by the fact that watching ongoing anime doesn't make you special.
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Shit i think I'm legally entitled to getting the DT expansion refunded because I haven't even got out of SB yet.
Deleted my account because of then treating the website owner this way.
They're going to act like everything everyone says on the internet is real then Square needs to address the insane perverted shit that goes on in the NA servers every day.
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>>734129315
>They're going to act like everything everyone says on the internet is real then Square needs to address the insane perverted shit that goes on in the NA servers every day.
Just look at this website, on /aco/ there are 2-3 ffxiv threads that are nothing but modded characters using ffxiv to fuck.
/xivg/ also has a general where they organise fuck sessions using FFXIV.
But these are ok.
Moaning online about the state of the game is not.
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>>734129445
>If I pretend it didn't happen, it didn't happen, lalalalalala, it didn't happen.
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>>734118142
Apocalypse hotel is absurdly good and im still mad it flopped and nobody knows about it. A flawed work of art, the only show to surpass Frieren for me personally.
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>>734129863
you lack literacy so let me spell it out for you
it's okay if you like these, but if you don't like anything outside of these, I have very bad news
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