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What do (you) think about Ethan Winters?
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>wife suddenly disappears
>worried sick not knowing what happened
>find out your marriage was a sham cover story for a covert operation
>suspect she was potentially fucking her colleagues
>discover your wife has been shacking up with some randos in the middle of nowhere for the last three years
>decide to confront her
>some redneck kills you by crushing your head and splattering your brains
>literal mold takes control of your corpse
>mold decides it would be funny to use your memories to role play as you
>moldman fucks and impregnates your wife
why did capcom do him so dirty?
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I liked him in 8. His debut game and the return of Resident Evil with 7 was an overall awkward game in terms of writing that felt like it was fighting to be a westernized game through a Japanese lens starring a character meant to be relatable. Now, village has flaws from its development and it deserves the criticism it gets for being really bad on the replay, but I feel like the main story gave Ethan his spotlight to shine. He feels like the last time we get a very "Capcom" protagonist since after him came the grounded portrayals of the main cast and Grace.
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I only ever played RE 7 and Village from the franchise
Now that he's dead I don't care about the series anymore
Maybe once Capcom sees that this new game sells like shit just like the rest of the franchise they will bring back Ethan and I will care again
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>>734123834
the franchise practically died after 5 and 6
re7 was their hail mary, new mc, new setting, new playstyle, everything all in an attempt to breath life back into it and it worked
they capitalized on that success with re8 and then decided to do remakes since the fanbase was once again extremely active and hyped
they literally ignored 1 and did the shittiest job possible on 3
>wow leon kennedy is so popular
said the people who only put in the work to do a good job on the two remakes who featured LK
now they want to graft the remakes and the new game to the reboot they started but they have literally no direction
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>>734122697
>resi
>resident fucking evil
>DYING FRANCHISE
Just because they waited a while to do another mainline entry after they fucked up 6 doesn't mean it was ever dying at all though?
If anything he just turned up in some mediocre games that weren't as egregiously bad as 6 so it was ok.
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>>734123742
It is worth noting that RE6 was considered as not doing as well as CapCom had hoped. It still made crazy fucking bank though and has had a very long tail. People that are saying the franchise was nearly killed are fucking delusional.
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>>734122697
I like him and the ending of Village with him sacrificing his life for Rose is the only time I've had an actual emotional reaction to an RE game other than Revelations 2. His rogues gallery is fantastic too, all these cool villains that are obsessed with him make him seem more interesting.
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>>734124180
the moment you experience physical death it doesn't matter that your (((psyche))), memories, engram, or whatever you choose to call it, lives on
that is just a copy and for all intents and purposes even IF you cannot distinguish the two and even if the copy is literally you, it is still a copy
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>>734122697
Not sure you could say he's bland. He's second only to classic Leon for one liners and with his wife and kid probably has the most fleshed out back story of the protags. Glad he didn't get overused though.
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>>734122697
Last game before Ethan was RE6.
Think about that
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>>734125198
Last game before Ethan was Revelations 2.
Think about that.
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>>734122697
Whiny tryhard bitch. Can you imagine having a beer with the guy and he’s just like “GRACE! I’ll never let them hurt you…” and you’re like “dude shut the FUCK UP!!!! Fucking chill already” and he’s just clutching his knees to his chest rocking back and forth, beer going flat as he mutters “grace…” repeatedly until you say “Ethan, I’m leaving” and abruptly leave and never see him again
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>>734125756
t.indians seething Japs like white men and not pajeets
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>>734122697
>first game literally save the franchise
>second game literally showed himself as a good father
Brown solid will never understand this because (aside from the fact that he's brown) he literally lived day by day posting 4cuck screencap on muskrat platform for engagement bait with the likes of pirat cucktion, johannigger, groomz, etc, no room for media literacy if you were in his position lole
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>>734124861
You entire body turns over multiple times in your life, identity is transitive. There's likely not even any subjective core that persists instant to instant, just a chain of thoughts all structured to have a subjective aspect.
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>>734122824
Your cuck fantasy isn’t what happened, the Ethan you play in the games is still Ethan, but the mold saved his life and resurrected him, with the caveat that his biology changed. But it’s still ethan. he is now made of mold the same way that darth Vader is made of robotics that saved his life. But they are still carrying the same soul of the human they were, which is literally the entire point of the character
If you still don’t get it, then just imagine the mold being superpowers that Ethan got, which makes him part of a mold hive mind and makes him incredibly resilient even though he still feels pain
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>>734125372
>comparing the slow process by which humans replaces cells to having your head caved in and your body instantly assimilated by mold
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>>734128624
I fail to see where that is not what happened
it is established that his mind was absorbed by the mold and implanted back into his new mold body to serve as a father figure to evelin
the fact that he couldn't be brain washed like the others is explained by his mind actually not being his but a part of the mold hivemind and thus the mold itself
so at what point is he still ethan anymore and not a .exe running on mold
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>>734129025
Does the speed really matter? Even if slowly you're acknowledging that the specific underlying matter isn't fundamental to what we understand as self given every part of it can be swapped out. But with regards to speed the vast majority of bodily cells are recycled quite quickly. It's basically just ligaments and tendons that sit there for decades.
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>>734129239
the fundamental difference should be obvious and the speed is indeed a major factor
would you argue that progressively replacing parts of a ship during a 10 year period until no original parts are left is the same as blowing it up and then shredding what's left to mix with a completely new material and build a new ship?
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>>734122697
He's barely a character. They could have made him a silent protagonist and nothing would have changed, because he says so little of worth and displays so little personality.
>>734125159
Ethan had one liners?
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>>734129540
Yes it doesn't matter. Whether I replace one plank of a ship a week until it's all changed or just keep replacing the planks in a session the same outcome is reached that you have the nominal ship with no original parts.
By trying to invoke some painful, extreme process you're evading the actual concern, it's a thought experiment so you'd just have to imagine all your cells painlessly and seamlessly turning over in a day as the equivalent.
You might be trying to say time is important as the new parts will be integrated by virtue of mixing with the originals for a while but ultimately when all originals are gone you're still saying identity is transitive.
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>>734122697
Chris Redfield: Anti-Umbrella
Leon Kennedy: Neo-Umbrella hater
Ethan Winters: Umbrella Enjoyer
Grace Ashcroft: Umbrella's Kid
Sherry Birkin: Umbrella's illegitimate and lame-o kid.
Claire Redfield: Sorta Anti-Umbrella, but will bend the rules sometimes.
Jill Valentine: Mind controlled Umbrella enjoyer
Out of tall the protagonists, only Ethan genuinely enjoyed manipulating Umbrella to his own selfish ends. He used The Connections and Mia to get closer to Rose, and he even manipulated Rose's future to get a better understanding of the state the world was in. All while he sat cozy in between Mother Miranda's buns.
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>>734122697
The entire concept of thinking of a franchise as some eternal thing that needs to be saved after decades and countless games is absurd and it makes me want to beat the retarded autists that are obsessed with these shitty games.
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>>734124145
im more fond to RE7 as the demo launched with full horror experience like good old RE games, but i cant blame them the success of RE7 made them go bonkers with RE8 going full action mode. The RE8 game overall is ok, story has concluded for ethan's journey but i cant help knowing what comes next of this mold zombies and its entirety and what organization(s) are gonna do with this information for their next master plan.
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>>734130052
his head literally gets stomped on until it cracks and his brain oozes out
he is dead
the mold absorbed his memories/mind, entirely replaced his body at a molecular level with mold and injected his memories/mind (which are now literally part of the mold) back into his body, I'd hardly call that a resurrection
same principle as the ship, you blew it up with tnt then proceeded to turn whatever remained into sawdust them you poured said sawdust into a different material which you then used to reconstruct the image of the ship
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>>734130391
they honestly should have kept re7&8 and any future games inside the new timeline with minimal involvement from anything pre reboot
they could have continued the original story after they finished remaking 5 and 6 but they got big money bags in their eyes and started doing crazy shit
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>>734130508
It's true that the occupation which defines value is absurd, but just because it's absurd doesn't mean we have to take it literally. We do absurd things all the time, but they aren't literal. You come to McDonald's to get a hamburger, not see the cow get killed. Fundraisers to help starving children in Chile are offered to customers, every time they buy a Venti coffee at Starbucks. That's absurd in and of itself. Absurd things are all around us, we can observe them and become better by acknowledging them, but we must not accept them.
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>>734130602
plausible, but im expecting people are tired with multiverse shenanigans. Wasnt RE4 or RE8 revealed that one of those zombie virus founders discovered another form zombie virus thus the settings of the game happened?
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>>734122697
PT saved resident evil, kojima saved capcom
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Some of his one liners showing how fucking done he is with the situations he gets in are very funny.
He's a bit like Ash from Evil Dead, starts as a relatively normal guy but becomes more and more pissed as crazy shit keeps pilling on him.
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>>734122697
>Attempt to write everyman hero
>End up with madlad with will of iron who responds to horrific sights with dad jokes and fixes broken bones with bottles of antiseptic
>Just roll with it for RE8 and end his story before he outstays his welcome
>Straight up turn him into a fucking guardian angel in the DLC
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Ethan in 7 was supposed to be a blank slate because the player is supposed to empathise with his situation, its half the reason the game is first person.
The whole Mia thing is ultimatley just there as a reason for Ethan not just GTFOing the second he is able to
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>>734131089
It's kind of insane that's all she had to be, and then by RE8 they just made Mia the hidden villain who got away with everything for literally no reason (and is apparently a terrible mother to Rosemary)
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>>734131143
Ethan is left wing.
Leon is right wing.
Chris is a right wing mouthpiece with leftist ideals.
Claire is left wing.
Jill is right wing.
It's so obvious that Ethan relies on vox populi and the emotion of the audience to do his heroism. He's not like Leon that ends up looking shady just through self-defense (even though he's the one getting bogged down with Mutated T-Viruses and several women complaints).
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>>734131515
No affiliation necessary, justChinese.
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>>734131765
it's the jap mind virus
>if it doesn't make sense it's good
every jap made or influenced game suffers from idiotic narrative
>metal gear
>darksouls
>silent hill
>resident evil
>persona
the list goes on and on
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>>734131765
im guessing the story ended, the tease where ethan didnt died was just a theory, rose's story pretty much concluded in her own DLC. What happens after is pretty much chris's responsibilities since he is the head of the operation. But as for now capcom shifted back focusing on leon's story, im expected we are going to have another leon for RE10 and grace's concluded story
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>>734131908
RE9 really has some super-evil vibe about it, which can only be contained in Ada's lens of personality, so i believe you when you say the original game was supposed to be set in Asia.
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>>734122697
He's just a normal guy and that's a good thing
Horror is inherently at its scariest when the people involved are powerless to do anything about it. That's why RE stops being scary when you start to focus on elite bioweapon elimination operatives instead of people in desperate scenarios needing to fight off a city-wide zombie outbreak with a single handgun
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>>734130807
Until they bring in someone who can literally fist fight B.O.Ws its not that extreme. yet. Leon doing all that cool shit in cutscenes and being allowed to parry tyrants and RPGs is getting there I suppose
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>>734122824
>>find out your marriage was a sham cover story for a covert operation
That didn't happen retard. Ethan was just a random guy at the beginning, Mia was with him because she liked him. She lied about what her job was.
This is what happens when you don't play the games you talk about.
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>>734124180
Technically in Prototype you can even still argue then that Zeus and Mercer truly are one and the same. It's his body, his biomass, his memories, his personality, everything. It's not like Alec Holland, where the Swamp Thing is just the plant life as this separate collection of organic material that was imbued with another living thing's memories, it's just straight up everything Alex Mercer, just temporarily conked out.
Like I feel they presented it pretty well in the story that Zeus is basically the last sliver of what's good in Alex Mercer, who is only able to present himself after amnesia blocks the trauma that fully turned him into a bad person, along with the irony that it's only able to present himself after he both figuratively and literally became a monster. It's a fable of a man's only good qualities being tasked to clean up his own mess.
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I liked Ethan cause he was a decent every man but you also could feel him getting more jaded and fucking done with everything over the course of both games. He went on a character arc and the only other protag I can think of doing that is Isaac Clarke from Deadspace.
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>>734132891
I remember that everyone liked him for being a well-fitting change of pace. Other than arguably Claire, there was no other mainline Resi series where the protagonist was just an everyman that was caught up in the nightmare but was desperate enough to fight his way out. It helped that this was in conjunction with the whole "no more Michael Bay, let's re-ground things" mindset as well, and not to mention Village later doing well to cement his character traits. Guy had no intent to revisit anything and was fine living out his days in witness protection if it meant his family was safe, and he went through hell again when it turned out they weren't.
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I assume you mean big BOWs, since RE7 ironically enough was the one to introduce fist fighting the enemies and what not, in the End of Zoe DLC
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>>734122697
Very great character that I liked so much.
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>>734134770
>since RE7 ironically enough was the one to introduce fist fighting the enemies and what not, in the End of Zoe DLC
And that wasn't even Ethan with his super powers it was just fucking swamp action grandpa, ex marine(?)
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>What if I let Ethan come inside me every night, behaved like a tradwife, and loved him and cuddled with him every day?
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>>734130409
I think he's trying to say that it still is Ethan's soul but just his physical cells were replaced with mold. You can't measure a soul anyway so it could've remained long enough until the mold (regenerated) him enough since it's make believe.
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>>734136354
Yeah I agree. Also a better way to say it maybe is that his soul was dormant after Jack stomped his head, then the mold regenerated his brain enough for him to "wake up". He might've been dormant and close to actually dying since there wasn't enough mold regenerating yet and prevented him from dying flat out, it just needed to regenerate him enough (when he woke up being dragged by Jack).
I don't like the idea he's a soulless husk either.
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>>734122824
This is cuck fanfiction.
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>>734129239
>Does the speed really matter?
It's a matter of integration, really. In the case of a slow replacement of cells, like what happens to humans naturally, each new cell has time to be integrated into the old system and at any given time the majority of the "old" cells are still in tact, allowing for physical continuity. If you instantaneously (or near instanteously) replaced 99% of someone's braincells, that sort of integration wouldn't be there.
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>>734122697
Its the opposote for me.
No Ethan, No buy simple as.
Im not gay so I don't like characters like Leon. It's just too try-hard.
Ethan is a simple man, with simple motivations, not a Mary Sue homo- and FoidBait.
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>>734130807
it's pretty weird that the series devolved to a point where the franchise could have ended if RE6 performed badly enough, and they decided to soft reboot it with RE7, only to return to RE6's design style with RE9
that's on top of all the fucking weird spin offs that no one asked for
>re:verse
>umbrella corps
>biohazard resistance
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/ourguy/
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>>734138757
What pisses me off about stuff like Re:verse and Resistance is that they never remade fucking Outbreak. Both titles were great, but limited in scope being for the PS2.
Modern consoles are all about the online, and that's where Outbreak would shine.
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It's thought to be cool to shit on Capcom but in retrospect I've only ever had fun playing RE games, even when certain sections or titles are lackluster.
RE1r, RE2, RE2r, RE3r, RE:CV, RE4, RE4r, RE5, RE6, RE7, RE8, RE9 (in progress).
RE5 and RE6 were kinda shit but I had a lot of fun playing Mercenaries with my friends.
Still need to play original RE, might go with the DS release. Want to play the RE7 and 8 DLCs, putting off purchasing RE8 for PC as there's a surprising lack of variety of Lady Dimitrescu nude mods.
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>>734122697
The worst bland and forgettable protagonist in the RE franchise
A shit main character, for shit games, of course Americans will love it and tell you 7 and 8 are excellent
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>>734122697
>What do (you) think about Ethan Winters?
He is the best resident evil protagonist.
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Not really surprising he doesn't like Ethan and RE7 in general. He is your stereotypical post RE4 fan, someone who just wants an action game and doesn't like the slow, inventory management style of the older games.
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Surprisingly high considering he only had two games and came out of nowhere
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>random nigga
>go look for your wife in some bumfuck nowhere haunted redneck house
>see dead bodies, weird body horror, your wife turning into some weird horror movie monster and your only reaction is some variation of "fuck!" but you keep going
>get killed
>become a mold monster but for some reason you're so OP you just keep your memories, your own will and your sense of self.
>beat mold monster final boss just to save your bitch of a wife despite just being a normal untrained nigga
>live years with healing super powers and never question it. Impregnate your wife.
>your wife gets replaced by some eldritch horror lady to kidnap your half mold child
>cock so good she just decides to fully replace your wife and cook for you and shit
Who even is this guy???
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>>734141452
>Who even is this guy???
A GOD
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>>734141452
Legitimately why didn't Christ just fucking tell him about the skinwalker instead of barging in like a movie supervillain to kill his "wife" and kidnap his child in front of him before also kidnapping Ethan himself?
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>>734142336
Hot.
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So we went from
>immortality
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>transferring my memories/conciseness into other living beings for being resurrected
Meanwhile in Real Life, we have A.I. there is Video Footage where Michael Jackson is stealing Chicken Nuggies, or Michael Jackson is singing Christmas Songs or other current popular songs with his Style or even creates new Songs if you give him some prompts.
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I think it was funnier when you think Ethan isn't a moldman and it was the special green sauce is the reason he could attach limbs back. The fact that it keeps happening and losing fingers to the lycon at the beginning of village was triggering my guro fetish.
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>>734122697
I don't like him at all. I didn't like him silent, I don't like him talking.
Im not convinced capcom actually had a plan for Ethan to be a mold man and did that "you reattached your hand because you're moldman" as a retroactive thing. I don't like Mia or any non Jack Baker characters for that matter. Ethan's 2 games both have bad sloppy gunplay and dogshit enemy variety and ultimately go nowhere meaningful while escalating way too far way too fast. What seemed like an attempt at rebooting and re-grounding the series spiralled out of control faster and farther than the mainline series did in a microscopic fraction of the time with so much less context given and all of that falls on Ethan.
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>>734142905
Japanese can't do grounded to save their lives. The writing has been on the wall for a long time
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ki9TniAUA1Q
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>>734122697
>release game to rebrand the series as a serious horror affair again
>the literal next game goes batshit insane on the lore again
>the third game in this soft-reboot has returned the series thematically to the exact same spot it was in during RE6
what even was the point of doing all this?
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>>734143131
Resident Evil had zero consumer faith after RE6 so they had to release one really good game to get the audience back before they could go right back to making the crazy shit they wanted to so it would sell.
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>>734143131
I don't like that Village only partially leans into the hallucinative aspect. I was fine with the idea that Ethan was in this surreal Grimms Fairytales dreamscape brought on by [I don't know what][the tree]. But then Chris shows up and he's completely sober minded and he's still fighting big werewolf guys and Frankenstein monsters shit while not under the effects of the shit.
I think it would have been way cooler to at the end be like "The big lady was just a big lady, not a vampire, the giant mechanoid man didn't fucking happen, the fish guy mutated into a giant fish(this is kosher), you were tripping balls on the dolls, but all the werewolf people were actually just psychotic people zombies"
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>>734122697
I’m pretty sure whatever next mainline game that would come after 6 was going to be praised to the roof if it was at least good. His game are not as talk as much now with the remakes and why 9 leans towards the remakes gameplay rather than 7/8.
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>>734124297
If it was such a fucking hit, why did they course-correct as hard as they did then? I’ll tell you why.
7 and 2R are a direct result of REmake HD coming out in 2015 during a period when the series was directionless and fan enthusiasm was tepid at best, and sold better than anyone was expecting, sending the signal that fans wanted the franchise to step away from the action schlock, and get back to the horror.
It’s ironic that the game that undersold on GameCube and prompted the tonal shift in RE4 is also what prompted a shift back to horror when it was re-released in HD and sold really well.
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>>734124297
Capcom was smart to see the writing on the wall. 7 was still riding on the coattails of 4/5 being good games even if 5 had some issues. Would re7 if they kept going with the tone of 6 do just as well? No that's insane
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>>734144485
>why did they course correct then
Because the entire world was practically destroyed in RE6. You had underwater cloning facilities full of the scariest most dangerous motherfuckers on earth, punctuated by giant mutant sharks. NYC was occupied by giant Trex and fly zombies. China and Russia were being terrorized by "Nemesis but hes 20 times bigger now"
How do you scale that up? The only way forward was down.
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>>734144621
He starts getting tired of everything in the 2nd half of 7
It's really bizarre people pretend re7 doesn't do the player progression power thing when it does it to a tea
First half of re7 Ethan is whining and going fuck fuck fuck using his little Glock and 2 shotgun shells but by the mines he's loading up heavy magnum rounds, and landmines saying he doesn't have time for this shit
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Was it rape?
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>>734145073
Nope
Bad game
Retarded anon
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7 is talked about still, 8 was forgotten though
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>>734143131
Getting people interested in RE again. 5 was mediocre and 6 was outright bad, if they had released a RE7 on the same line as 5 or 6 it would have been the end of it for good, they had to reinvent themselves in some way
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I think 8 is the only bad modern re game.
The remakes 7 and 9 are perfectly good games for what they set out to do
Worse thing you can say about 3make is I wish their was more.
8 is just ehhhhhhhh, the most memorable thing about the game was people gooning to a character.
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>>734144932
>6 is better 7
This is why democracy doesn't work.
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Do people actually think re6 has good combat? It's a shooting game with no bullets.
>Oh you're supposed to melee
The melee is one button lol why are we pretending that's enough
Re4 original is far more satisfying and fun at a visceral level
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FACT: If RE7 and RE8 were natively third person and you were allowed to see Ethan's face, he would be lauded just as much as any new character.
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>BRO THEY COURSE CORRECTED BECAUSE RE6 WAS TOO EPIC AND BIG AND THEIR WAS NO WAY THEY COULD TOP IT AND NOT BECAUSE IT WAS THE FIRST MAINLINE THAT RECEIVED BAD SCORES AND VISIBLE FAN OUTCRY
6 nigga cope is so strange
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Agreed, but there's a point I will always defend: 6 has the most effective and non-retarded villian in the whole series, Carla.
>Her whole motivation was a shot of self esteem to fuck over Simmons and the world.
>Did to Chris what Wesker just tried to do
>Had control over several BOWs
>Fucked up several cities
>Infected Simmons and made Leon, Helena and Ada kill him
>Had a plan if she ever got killed
>Made Chris "fight" against Leon
>Effectively kidnapped Jake and Sherry for her own plans, didn't need to wait for someone else to kill them and then take over the bodies like Wesker did with Steve and Krauser
>Did most of this shit as almost regular human being
Man I hate that Carla is forever trapped in that shit game
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>>734146316
People saying he has no personality as i lf Chris is just flowing with charisma is funny. The most intriguing part of chirs is all fanon shit. I still hold that the only the game with a protag that actually enchanted the game is re4 original.
Just that Leon and his lines added anything, every other release the protag is whatever
Hell if I had to name a 2nd game with a protag that added anything it would Ethan re7, his few lines and visible confidence increase over the course of the game is charming
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>What's your most memorable Ethan Winters character moment?
>Uh I like when the character yelled "FUCK!" or "SHIT" and maybe "FUCKING SHIT" when something shocking happens
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>>734147434
Take your pick.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x02KVQq_Nss
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>>734124861
I hate it when retards like you start spouting pseud mumbo-jumbo like you understand the secrets of the universe.
Ultimately, the nature of consciousness is an unanswered question. You may as well just say you don't believe the soul would return after the body is reconstituted; what you're saying is just as irrational, you're just being more of a reddit twerp about it.
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>look these tweets up
>the one shitting on ethan got ratio'd 1:3
>the response saying his games saved RE has a much much better ratio and far more likes to boot
Warms my heart seeing the masses appreciate ethan and 7/8.
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>>734148618
>the response saying his games saved RE has a much much better ratio and far more likes to boot
all of which are retarded because the popularity of 7 and 8 have nothing to do with ethan
he's barely a character
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>>734148618
>look these tweets up
>the garfield avatar browses this place
wow, shit opinions from a /v/tard?? no way...
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>>734124861
I played RE7 ages ago and really don't remember Ethan canonically dying. When did it happen?
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>>734122697
>Ethan saved the franchise
>The only new characters normalfags actually remember from those games are Jack and Lady Dimitrescu
Sure thing, buddy.
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>>734142905
Do you understand that the guy who did RE7 has not worked on 8 and 9?
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>>734152536
Jack Baker kills him immediately. the "welcome to the family son" into curbstomp was ethan's death. we thought it was a knock out, but it was revealed in a scene in village that ethan died there and became mostly mold. that's why hes able to shrug off a lot of the damage that's dealt to him.
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>>734144485
They started "course correcting" when indie horror walking sims like Outlast were cool then started creeping back towards 6. Like how parrying disappeared for a bit because it was too action-y but now it's a core mechanic of recent games again.
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>>734148201
It really did. 5 already lost a lot of 4’s momentum, then 6 was dire. You had a slew of derivative B story side games coming out at the same time.
If 7 had been slop it would have death spiralled the franchise.
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>>734145092
She raped him.
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>>734147434
For me it was the part where after being handed the shards of his daughter's mutilated corpse, he was told by a random fat man that he could put her back together like Humpty fucking Dumpty and proceeded to treat collecting the rest of said corpse like a goddamn Final Fantasy fetch quest
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>>734122697
>Rock Solid OP
Can we please stop posting this retard here? All he does is come to /v/, learn what the hive mind opinion on a current thing is, then share it on twitter for upboats.
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Emily/Rose teamup when
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>>734128540
>There's likely not even any subjective core that persists instant to instant, just a chain of thoughts all structured to have a subjective aspect.
There is, it's called "consciousness" and it's why anesthesia works
btw during anesthesia your conscious brain activity completely halts, enjoy this information
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Resident Evil always had fun action with horror, some games focus more on horror and some more on the action, I enjoy both extremes. RE7 is fun. RE6 is fun.
>b-but I need to pretend one is the best thing and the other is the most horrible shit ever made
Yes, if your personality is based on tribalism for a franchise.
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>>734122697
isn't he just supposed to be a stand-in for (You) the player, and that's why he had no face?
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>>734159887
Yeah I liked him. Not overpowered but takes constant insane beatings in his stride (obviously until the end of 8 where it’s revealed he is overpowered). Acts more like a realistic guy than Leon or Chris.
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normalfags and the "modern audience" don't like silent protags or blank slate protags for some reason, and that's why zoomers and women mald over him. he was perfectly fine imo, but I do feel like RE is more defined by characters with strong personalities so that could be another reason some don't like him.
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>>734122824
He’s not the only one, the real Leon has been dead since Gaiden, since 4 Leon has been much stronger because he’s actually a shapeshifting tyrant.
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>>734151045
Funnily enough there were tweets saying that but then it's pointed out that a big part of 7/8's appeal was making the protag a average dude. The masses really do appreciate what Capcom was going for with Ethan.
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A lot of it is RE4 fanboys on a death spiral. RE5 and then 6 was supposed to be the sequels to the "best game ever" by and a lot of RE4 fanboys had so much hype for them because of this. They didn't respond well to the increasingly popular opinion that the games weren't feeling like horror games anymore and even more so didn't respond well to the game's own developers agreeing.
RE4 was a good game but it gets overlooked that it still felt like a horror game somewhat.
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>>734124861
>the tens of millions of people who've coded and been resuscitated in a hospital aren't real people anymore
You're a special kind of dumb.
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>>734124861
It's Resident Evil. This magic mold shit from some random cave in europe literally contains people's mortal souls as memories and information that can still act within the hive mind separately of it. Your theology bullshit doesn't matter.
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>>734129635
the two best selling RE games at some point of their release?
I don't get the "saved a dying franchise" attribute imbued upon 7, and I like 7 and loved 8.
the two revelations games were also good games and nowhere near "bad".
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6 is severely misunderstood but it's not a bad game. it has the best combat and mechanics of any RE game, but it's the least "RE feeling" game and it has the most QTEs.
I loved it and it's a blast to play coop.
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>>734122697
>Dying franchise
>Only had 1 bad game in between 4 and 7, it wasn't even bad, everyone was just being retards over it
I hate REfags so much
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>>734170656
RE6 was so fucking dogshit I haven't bought a single RE game for full price outright since. I got REmake 2/3/4 for $20 in a bundle. That's skipping everything from that game releasing since. Series is fucking ASS and they hard corrected way to much. Fuck 6 and any Jap who had involvement in it. Ruined the entire fucking thing. No I won't play revelations, no I won't play 7 OR 8. No I won't buy Requiem. No I won't play your multiplayer cash in. It's straight fucking DOGSHIT.
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>>734173229
RE5, Revelations, RE6, Rev2, and UMBRELLA CORPS were all garbage. This revisionist history zoomers are doing with RE5 cause they were seven years old when they played it and didn't realize how shit it was is not acceptable.
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>Gun zombies
>Grenade zombies
>Artillery section
>Motorcycle section
>Over the top setpieces
Yeah it's closer to RE4R than RE6 is, but it still has plenty of RE6 DNA in it. I would've been completely fine if Leon didn't show up at all and the entire game was Grace.
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>>734141961
>Mia dies at the start by Chris's squad
>turns out it was Miranda shapeshifting and the real Mia has been held captive for weeks (this is where the Miranda fucking Ehtan memes come from)
>doesn't how up until the very end when Chris finds her
>turns out she knew Ethan was part mold but didn't tell him
>is left alone with Rose when Ethan dies
>Rose DLC starts
>turns out due to being part bioweapon Rose spend her entire childhood in labs
>mentions Mia hasn't visited her in ages
Basically they wrote her out because they didn't know what to do with the Connections, the group Mia worked with. So yeah she never gets any sort of redemption arc.
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>>734174432
Nigger, I'm older than you, pre-ordered the fucking thing, went to a midnight release when they were still big, had a fucking party chat set up on the 360 for a group of 8 people (4 pairs each) and we all had the same conclusion a few hours in. Dogshit. Go fuck yourself.
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>>734122697
hes great and even better how much he makes people seethe for being such a great guy
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>>734159164
Vtm enjoyer spotted in the wild? o.O. Now comes the question if you're on the v5 bs or the v20 Owod chad camp
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>>734122697
worst protag in the whole series, I'm glad this fag is gone. I dont like Grace either but at least the constant screaming and getting thrown around fits a woman more
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>>734165594
I mean at the end of RE8 SoR epilogue DLC Miranda died, Ethan was wounded, and Rosemary left him there in the Megamycete. Eveline was unharmed and as powerful as ever. So...yeah probably.
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>>734166787
Rosemary was born in 2019. She'd be a seven year old in the custody of Chris, Claire, or the BSAA. None of which I doubt would let a little girl that is the ultimate lifeform anywhere outside a secure compound or completely secret safehouse.
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>>734122697
He was good in 7, but dying like a bitch because of Chris in 8 was stupid.
They're right that 7 saved the franchise, only for Capcom to immediately crash the car straight into the ditch again because they GOTTA have stupid-ass shoot-bang sections instead of tension horror.
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>>734174432
>The game is fun wi-ACK
Every game is fun with friends dipshit.
If the game is shit without friends then it's shit.
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>>734122697
this nigga only saying this because Resident Evil is trending now, like the jew he is to get money from the blue check, and yeah, RE7 did save Capcom ass, anyone saying otherwise is a HUGE faggot
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I'm 32 and I'd honestly never cared for Resident Evil before 7. I'm not crazy about them enough, but I'll buy the Gold/Deluxe Edition for 20 Euros down the line. Just replayed 7 a month ago too. It actually saved me from buying 9 for full price since I scratched the itch.
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>>734122697
I think Grace is what I thought Ethan would be. A normal, very person in a resident evil game. Ethan's best moments are him freaking out and showing anger and fear all at the same time. I wish they showed more of that angry side.
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>>734180940
He literally said the MOMENT you experience PHYSICAL DEATH you're no longer a real person. People get resuscitated from textbook definition physical death all the time in real life. I'm replying to that single post, not the entire chain before it, because the person I'm replying to made a blanket statement that went way beyond the specific discussion in the chain about vidya mold men, and is patently retarded.
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>>734185576
I don't even know what the fuck you people mean with physical death, like as opposed to what? spiritual death? non-physical death? I assume it just means dead.
you can be dead or clinically dead, difference being the latter has the possibility of being resuscitated
you can argue Ethan was resurrected but that's a whole different can of worms
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my point also being that you can't resuscitate someone who is dead from something final like having your head blown off your head
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>Ethan West
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>>734122824
>forgets that he's been fucking Miranda for months before Chris ruined his fun.
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I know they set it up to look like Leon was gonna die in RE9, but Chris is getting way too many voicemails in RE9 instead.
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>>734123869
>revelations sucked as well
only rev 2
rev 1 was kino
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>>734124294
People turn into retards where RE6 is concerned
It's a great game which sold extremely well, anything else is just cope
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>>734192441
Resident Evil sale figures are the most schizophrenic thing ever. Every sales chart under the sun seems to have completely different claim over which RE is the best selling one.
But by all accounts I'm not losing sleep over the idea that one dumb action RE sold better than another dumb action RE.
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