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She charmed millions
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>Crater theme going absolutely hard
>Get to the boss
>"Mewgenics Crater Theme - WITH LYRICS!" ahh singing
All of the other lyrical switchups were neutral or good, is this the only outlier?
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It's a weird design choice on their part, there are two types of cactus. One type is more faded in color and can't be broken, they are like part of the background art like how sometimes random clutter or other things you can't break will be, the odd thing though is they are the only undestroyable wall/environment piece that also has an effect they do extra damage to things that bump them and give them thorns. There are cactuses you can destroy too, they brighter in color and you should be able to highlight them like a unit.
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>skill on necro that revives target it kills
>kill a t-rex
>they walk toward the last target that damaged them and insta-kill them
>the fucking zombie t-rex eats my necro
The one time I think I find a good skill and a reason to use necro the game decides to shit on me again. Back to the shelf you go necromancer.
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>>734124075
I think most people's opinion will not matter to you because you are definitely in the minority with that one, that the crater theme is bad. Also you say shit like ahh so no shock you have shit taste.
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when i did that quest all it did is make every single event a "weather" event
if anything it made the run easier because i'd rather have rain a snowstorm and shit all over the place over getting touched or getting cancer
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An hour in and this game is kicking my ass
I unlocked the sewers but the boss there narrowly beat me. Should I just go through the first area over and over to get a strong team? Is that the gameplay loop?
How do I get more food, I'm low as fuck all the time
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She's charmed me very badly.
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I just started a 4 collarless act 3 run with the quest item that randomizes level ups so you can randomly get ability upgrades at level 2.
Should I go future or past? Future is generally easier but I have a lot of projectile users and I worry about the übermensch. But I also don't like concussions...
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Spoilering this since I think it's the last boss, butI just lost a run to The Creator's first phase while taking the nuke. The clones went first which didn't happen last time, is that normal? I got completely wiped by my cats and now have none of my good items. Kind of annoying that I have to do all three runs again too, since I'm a bit burned out and just want to finish the game.
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guys I think there's something wrong with my mewgenics
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will draw cats for (you)s
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When two units have the same speed it's random which goes first in the turn order. Also,after you kill the four cats the boss resurrects your downed party members (as long as their bodies are still present), so you only need to make sure the nuke carrier survives the initial onslaught.
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>go against zodiac
>easily gang up on him taking only a few shots
>think he even missed one or two
>not even blocked, just actually missed
>fight gambit
>rolls 1
>rolls 2
>gets ganged up and dies
For having such cool designs the desert bosses are such huge fucking jobbers
Even Rad Rat gives me more trouble than these bozos
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How can 4 clerics win in the infinite where everything is immune to holy?
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Ok that was incredibly hard. But i managed to pull through. Figures that 4 Tinkerers + Antenna that scrambles every spell after it's cast is not very easy to do.
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this team of quad psychics all have huddle bred onto them
the damage number on the magnet looks like that after 5 turns of huddling
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i think i may have just been spoiled on a boss, oh well
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In my dreams, I'm the king of cats... This little guy solo'd the Throbbing King in one turn.
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>>734126195
These cats have protagonist level powers and also theyre literal combat cats. They can actually kill people and cultists and genetic abominations and wield guns, in setting theyre your own retarded spec ops squad slinging magic spells.
If your cat can cast magic missile or summon lightning, your worlds power scaling has been massively reduced dude. One of the weakest bosses in the game just shoots a gun, but you got shit like Hitler bots.
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>>734125612
look at this guy
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>>734125487
Such is Gambit's life.
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>>734125004
This Primal dwarf cat I had that got turned into a kitten
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>finishing up act 3
>yet another time-waster quest to go back to a previous act and clear it
Look I get it Edmund. You want people to do these while clearing the higher difficulty levels and get those done at the same time. But the thing is, I already fucking cleared all previous difficulty levels while waiting for the stupid act 3 bosses to take a whole goddamn week to come to my house. This is just timewastey and filler at this point. Just let me unlock the highest difficulty for all acts as soon as I clear the previous difficulty once or something. This is getting a bit annoying now.
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Death Shroud + Bulletproof Vest. I brought along two cats with the "resurrect on healing" ability, and just had them kill and resurrect him over and over again, sometimes up to five or six times per round. I also happened to find a uranium rod while I was out, which gave him a couple of extra beneficial mutations while I was at it.
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>150 kots
>majority have the PRR PRR mutations
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cKIxWMN5fVI
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someone help this poor creature
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Entire lineage? I thought it was getting bad with just 5 yapping cats and threw them all out. You got more patience than me. It was the same Shannon Shaw voice too.
Throwing them all out might not be an option if you're late in the game.
I don't know what Ed was thinking. These voices are funny for like 1 hour and then you learn that they're heritable and you'll be hearing the same lines echo over and over, forever, unless you take action. Should've made them more rare or something.
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>Tfw 100+ hours and still havnt entered act 3 yet
>My house is like 6-10 cats max
Im chewing too slowly and keep making stupid risks
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>>734127856
yes. oc making is fairly cringe as a concept but i think he'd fit in
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>>734124075
Just fight the Crater Maker a few more times and you will start to love
>Alien crater, feline invader
>Alien crater, feline invader
>Alien crater, feline invader
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>mouse over enemy, see "999 damage" or "∞ damage"
>okay my holy shield can tank it since it says it blocks AN ENTIRE INSTANCE of damage
>doesn't block it, cat reduced to atoms
DOES IT OR DOESN'T IT YOU FUCKING CUNTS
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>>734125807
I may have to refrain from posting other cats then, well except maybehitler.but I take a lot of people already know about him
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HAHAHA FUCK YOU EDMUND I hope you will in your next time a cow; on a trash farm, you sucker. I just cheesed the C-1000 with blood geyser. So fucking satisfying.
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>Have a crack team of Ubercats ready for a long run
>But before them, I send a team of four inbred losers and strays to die so the RNG thinks i'm in a bad spot and dosen't fuck my A-team with Aids, Cursed Hairballs, Blood Frenzy or Malaria
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Wait was the core and butcher a reference to Diablo?
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Strays can take you all the way to late act 2. Probably further, but that's when I started putting effort into breeding so I can't say for certain.
You should equip whatever items you have laying around in pretty much every run, there's no reason not to given how many items the game gives you and how limited your storage is, but again you really shouldn't have to that early in the game.
You're definitely doing something wrong gameplay wise which you need to figure out and fix, a better team isn't going to solve that for you.
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>>734129054
-radiomode true
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>Doing angry mask
>Mid way through the cat in question goes to an event
>Figure they'll just get stats down so what's the harm
>They're abilities get scrambled
>They get a Forbidden Frost spell
>If I don't take them out on turn 1 they cast in without fail
Fucking hate this game
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you are delusional. there's no poop, no random bits of gore, no Y incision, it's the least edmund thing edmund has produced... if he even made it rather than one of the other devs
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>112 appeal
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>>734129172
Yep. The furfags scared all the normal people away. I've been posting here far less since the fetishists have taken a greater share of the posts. I still play the game every day but these threads are so fucking boring and disgusting when half the posts are "she looks like she fucks humans!!!"
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If the game is kicking your ass with random events, it's because you're neglecting your cats' luck stats.
The average of your cats' luck is used to calculate whether you roll good or bad events and whether your most suited cats are the ones to participate in those events.
Luck is probably one of the most impactful stats in the whole game. You can't just decide you don't really care about maximizing your critical hit chance and neglect luck in favor of your other stats.
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Why are my cleric's melee attack and fury heal inflicting frozen? Happened in the Ice age boss fight, caused me to lose a cat cause it just fucking happened out of nowhere. Am I retarded?
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The healing is the least important part of the druid kit, druid is all about damage mitigation
Every hit taken by a squirrel or toad or your crow instead of one of your cats is more effective healing than your primary attack
If you luck into the passive that makes your primary attack harm enemies, now you have an aoe poison as well
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>>734129642
False equivalence
The in game cat sex isn't meant to make you horny unless you're a zoophile. It's different from the subhuman mongrels constantly talking about wanting to fuck the fat snorlax character or whatever the fuck
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>>734129610
When health is high there's a chance every night for a cat to miraculously heal their disorders and you might not want that to happen. Conversely, a low enough health stat (I think it has to be in the negatives) can inflict disorders on your cats.
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>a low enough health stat (I think it has to be in the negatives) can inflict disorders on your cats.
wait is this the reason why my kittens have aids most of the time
i have -1 health in my breeding room
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>go to desert
>get the snow/ice element weather event
>still have heatstroke even though it's literally snowing and snow is just frozen water, and any water puddled I do make instantly turn to ice
make it make sense
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Negative health in a room leads to cats in that room generating disorders.
You want disorders that synergize with your cat's starting abilities because then the upside outweighs the downside and you have 1-2 free passives.
E.g. making a cat with kidneystones a tank so they create a petrock every turn.
A butcher with schedenfraude and munchausen by proxy so he starts with 8 more con and str
A overconfidence cat with necrosis so its always considered to be at full hp.
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let's try one more time
set this party to go
game's not so hard
i think the cats go right here (it's an event! it's an event!!)
just a little choice, you'll get a new item!
(OH NO!) well that doesn't look quite right
(oh so unlucky...) he probably shouldn't have blood frenzy
I’m feeling so blue (blue)
maybe there’s nothing I can do
the more I try
the more cats die
i’m so tired of working
so hard and not getting it right
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>didn't beat first rooms in Act 3
>didn't beat bonus bosses in Act 1 and 2]
>didn't play for 3 days
>60 hours in
>threads are slowing down
It's over.
The game is just RNGslop with 2 hours long unfun runs. If you lose a run you lose everything.
Isaac was better.
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TOE NAIL REMOVAL!
FEEL THE PAIN, FEEL THE BURN.
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i was questioning whether i was having fun too until i started breeding all 7 kitties and the game opened up from there
runs stop being 2 hours long and start getting fun when you become able to grind the enemies' bones to dust in a single round
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>>734130440
>You're reading guides and savescumming. Facts.
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In memory of bobby.
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>Decide to try out undead summoning on my necro
>While my cleric has regen aura
>Instantly kills all my undead every turn
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I charmed white rabbit in an event. Seems nice
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i just beat the spider boss, what happens if i bite into this wall of flesh?
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cats?
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found a way, whole run went like this
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mutations are always worth it, at worst they'll have bad synergy now (for example poison in basic attacks on a cleric would poison your teammates) but you can breed it into another cat where it'll be good
the "bad" mutations are called birth defects and as their name implies they only come from birth (usually due to inbreeding), although even those aren't 100% negative all the time, just most of the time, also some mutations come with birth defects prebaked (like the pyramid head making you blind because you only have 1 eye)
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with this webm in my possession i have no further use for porn
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The future is easy as fuck ?? Wdym just bring a thief or necro
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Is mage the most RNG class in the game? Like i need perfect passives and skills to not be utterly useless.
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It's weird, when I played Xcom it felt like everyone was a vet that could do legendary difficulty challenge runs and I sucked ass. Now with Mewgenics it's the complete opposite and everyone is complaining while it seems pretty easy
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>First hard mode run
>Jester miniboss
>Has 10% dodge chance
>Miss 6 times in a row
>It confuses my guy
>Hurts self in confusion 5 times in a row
Yo, what the fuck? Is hard mode just like this? Where you lose every single RNG element?
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Fighter, Ranger, Butcher, Cleric are all baseline useful, no matter what they get, while other classes like Thief, Psychic, Tinkerer, Necromancer, can all just get literally nothing that synergizes and they are borderline useless. Despite this, I love Tinkerer and Necromancer, but if I get another useless death passive and coffin flop I'm gonna vomit
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Just pause, the radio carries on with no background noises.
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>>734132271
are you high? psychic has so many abilities that are broken and completely trivialize a lot of encounters/bosses on their own
only issue with it is that it's not really good at doing damage since it's a support class
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marshmallow ran away with my godly cat in a solo run
a few runs later she shows up again with said cat in tow
i fucking hate this game
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Fuck man i hate when this happens.
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>no isaac didn't actually kill satan it was just delusions from suffocation, the sheer thought of killing satan is ridiculous
>anyway this scientist revived isaac's mom and she bred an army of mutant cats to go to the future to killhitlerand thengod, who looks like guppy for some reason
thanks edmund very cool
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Bros. I'm doing the nuke quest for the final boss, and the 4 duplicates he spawns at the start somehow have ambush on me. How the FUCK am I supposed to do anything about my overpowered team that does 1000000 damage in 1 turn getting a free full pass at me? this shit is so fucking bullshit. No counter play. I saw my fighter kill 3 (THREE) of my cats in 1 single fucking move before I alt f4'd
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What’s her IQ?
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The in-game version of Alone In The Dark is so much better than the OST version it's not even funny.
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>Bats
>Cat fails three confusion rolls in a row
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>>734132492
people who shittalk thief and tinkerer are just unga bunga brained retards who can't do combos and synergies
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Yeah but then you get a Mage who can cast Meteor Storm for 6 mana and for every 12 mana spent you refresh your basic attack and movement and the basic attack generates more mana...
Annihilated Man in the Moon and the second kaiju home defense with that fuckin' cat.
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from ed himself (14:16)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SuJIx4ZcZ9E&t=856s
>[blessings events] can happen when your luck's really high or if you're if you're struggling to get through
>we do the same thing with the opposite as well, if you're playing really well we don't pull any punches
but afaik no one has broken down exactly how the mechanic works
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I’m pretty sure it’s just people going off a random statement Ed made that, to me, means that a given seed tries to have a fairly even spread of events, not overwhelmingly biased positively or negatively.
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katia?
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Note to anyone waiting to combine The Loner with Angry Face, don't bother because it doesn't auto-kill bosses it only hurts them for 25 HP and then you have to deal with the boss as usual along with a cat that has the gun every turn. Even with a neverstone and picking a shitty stat class like druid you are going to get fucked up.
Just do a true solo run for The Loner, it is way easier.
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>>734133546
Go fuck yourself, edmund
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How the hell am I suppose to deal with all these stupid meat fucks
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Man breeding is basically easy mode. Not doing it is just making the game harder for yourself.
Even at worst 10 mutations would be around +10 to stats, which means a well-bred cat has the equivalent of five extra levels compared to some random stray. And you get a team of four.
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>>734125487
>Just attack the dice.
>attack dice
>it goes from a 5 to a 6
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I'm beyond upset to hear this.
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>Attack the dice 5 times
>6, 6, 6, 6, 1
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>My Tinker gets a random mutation to counter with chain lightning
>Completely forget about it
>Get overwhelmed on the king because I have the quest item that deals 1 damage to everything
>This happens
I'm not sure I would have won without it, even if I'd killed the king I think I would have just been eternally swamped by clots.
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>Short Shot
>range 3, dex-based, restricted to line of sight
>Short Lobbed Shot
>range 3, dex-based, no line of sight restrictions
why
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Lesson learned. Just got there after the sacrifice and got fucked by meat fuckers
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The game gives you bad outcomes if you're doing too well and good outcomes if your'e doing poorly. That's all we know until someone datamines how this really works.
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>>734135729
it's an edmund roguelike so "fuck you up" is probably the default setting anyway, at this point we're just arguing semantics
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Obviously, but this just means that lobbed is a straight upgrade and that cats born with non-lobbed should never be picked for collarless.
I feel like the non-lobbed collarless basic attack as well as the mage basic attack would both benefit from a +1 range buff.
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>>734132215
I've had the same experience. It's probably just that the audience for mewgenics don't play other strategy games or something but damn, my ego has been inflated beyond all measure by all the crying over RNG. Pretty sure I'm a fucking god at videogames now.
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Why did she wanna fuck with some weird moon obelisk in the first place. Was she stupid?
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Im pretty sure what's really happening is just that the game has some basic heuristic for "struggling" (such as multiple downs, low health, fights that take many rounds) and the actual weighting is just like 5% in favor of the player, and otherwise you get no bonus on all the events that are already designed to fuck you.
If it was significant enough of a shift people would be abusing it like they did in Isaac. Most of the events in this game are just luck and stat checks (even the ones where you have no input), so no amount of meta knowledge and skill will let you game the system to such a degree.
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idk; I feel like, anecdotally, the game adjusts the difficulty of your next run, rather than adjusting weights of events within the current run. It would make more sense if the difficulty scaling was run-by-run, rather than adjusting on the fly within a singular run, as that way it's a lot less open to abuse. Neither Edmund's nor Tyler's statements on the difficulty scaling would contradict this theory.
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>beats coven in 2 turns and chaos in 1
Jack would be proud.
Also, it was really funny fighting Cerberus with this build cause turnabout made him turn 180 each time he got hit, spit and instantly turn back.
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>If it was significant enough of a shift people would be abusing it like they did in Isaac.
The game is still pretty new, people don't know the nitty gritty details of those things.
This isn't yet like Isaac which had been data mined and reverse engineered to hell and back.
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>>734134015
The problem with tinkerer is that you don't roll any combos or synergies half of the time, and even when you do they often only come online 1 battle before the last boss. Other classes are either better at baseline or their ability line-up makes combos far more often, or both.
Thief is actually good though, don't know who's shittalking that class.
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Whats the point of "path of the" skills?
They have an annoying niche unlock condition and it's a massive chance that the skill will even be useful to you
Just take a jester hat, infinitely better then having a brick skill
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Even "friendly" he's a hazard.
>>734131123
He does some spin bullshit like labrats or the fighter mini boss (Magnus?)
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>>734137087
not necessarily easier but it's just as viable
i would say that doing 3 cat runs is as easy as 4 cat runs most of the time, maybe slightly harder but the upside is that the cats end up becoming more powerful individually since the levels are shared between a smaller amound of cats
but 2 and 1 cat runs can be harder if you're fucked by what abilities you are offered
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>>734136931
Anon people were breaking Isaac week 2 after Florian patched a bunch of launchday bugs and crashes.
The D6 itself was a gamebreak item and Cain's luck foot let him abuse arcades since it gave him better odds to win.
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>>734124490
Quit runs early if you're not confident. Heck you could even do a string of Alley runs till you get the hang of the gameplay. I agree with the anon who said Butch tips, the tips he gives are surprisingly good.
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>>734132492
Thief has probably the best value damage to mana abilities in my experience. Maybe scaling can change that, but with thief it's generally 4 mana for 3 damage +1 debuff or something. Some of the best move tech too.
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>>734137904
I just beat my first kaiju and I have 28 cats. Why keep so many more around? You're just lowering your furniture stats (and quality of offspring). Any excuse I have to get rid of cats I do it, and I donate all my suboptimal kittens to Tink. It's called Mewgenics for a reason.
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Shannon Shaw or something like that.
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Ensouled individual.
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https://www.nexusmods.com/mewgenics/mods/94
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I have 10 tops.
Gives me far more time to maxx out mutations, disorders etc.
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Does your cat have less than 5 luck
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God I want to pet marshmallow and scritch her chin then rub her tail bone area as she purrs loudly.
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How do I save Pyrophina from the chaos dimension thing? I beat it a bunch of times and there's no option to save her yet
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>>734138091
You're the guy that also made the Beanies dialogue changes right? You might want to be clearer as to what the fuck the mod does, I had the impression that it was some inside meme or based on esoteric underground lore
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I don't know the exact mechanics actually I only got the rabbit on my very first run so I had it for maybe 2 fights. I do know those lab rats can fucking shred in the right circumstances.
Now that I've played some more that raving rabid probably has an infectious disease like those lab rats.
I also remember fighter has another spin attack, it's the one where they start moving, not the one where they stand still.
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I just can't bring myself to throw away cats that have 6+ in everything, I take the worst four (usually low libido or gay) and then give them to respective upgrades the same night, I've never skipped a day to adventure before.
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>>734138252
What I don't like is that it covers would cat, would have been better like a borderline palette or something similar, full cat color changing makes meaningless what kind of coloring does your cats have before asign them a class
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>>734135318
Makes no sense, h isn't even near s on the keyboard.
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>>734138060
Thanks for explaining.
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I wasn't using it. I didn't do the Scorsese post.
>>734135543
The opposite, 'fellow kids' is supposed to be pretending you're a teen; asking for an explanation of teen slang is the exact opposite, confessing that you're not hip and with it anymore.
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>>734138249
I run on 100. I hoard cats. I breed surplus so even the breeding room rejects are put in the fight room and their SMASHED and SLAMMED genetics are amped by SMASHING and SLAMMING other cats. I have the Idol of Chaos to help with this.
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>>734138187
Yeah, I added "Dialogue Replacer" to the title and made the overview text clearer for that reason. It started off as a joke, but he still felt a bit too reddity while I was playing, so now I'm going through with a more detailed rewrite to make him a little less of an ironic character. Not that there's much dialogue, mind you, but still.
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>>734138270
Well think of it like this. More nights at home = more generations = more mutations/optimization of stats. Take those high stat cats on runs and then donate them to Butch or Frank.
>but muh house bosses
I always use neverstones or do solo runs to concentrate a bunch of levels on one or two cats, then use those for the boss fights. And I always throw the stray into the gene pool to cut down on inbreeding.
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>>734138403
>Makes no sense, h isn't even near s on the keyboard
The point isnt that its a typo that stuck, its just a way to pass filters, which most social media have, while keeping the meaning and overall word structure.
Similar to using 'graped' instead of raped or 'unalive' instead of suicide
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>>734138252
You wanna know the annoying part? It's trivially easy to disable class collar colors for the cats, but it also disables the coloring of class abilities and passives, which is a no-go, at least for me.
Shame, I was really enjoying the one test run where my cats had their natural colors.
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>>734138567
OP is this person: >>734123434
The anon you're referring to is this person: >>734124490
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>Oh yay sparkles
>Fucks your run hitting enemies that should only be hit when you can kill them that turn
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OP just means "original poster", contextually it made sense for anon to refer to >>734124490 as the original poster of the conversation.
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with the sharks i didnt have to deal with this bulb bullshit and he's spawning FOUR (4) a round in random positions this is FUCKED
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YOU CAN'T RUN
YOU CAN'T HIDE
TRY TO FIGHT FOR YOUR LIFE
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>tar baby
what's next, jungle bunnies?
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>>734139959
That's Bunker hard route iirc, don't think the core has one.
That's the issue, acts 2/3 have rare boxes but only 1 box available on like stage 2 because they start offering meteors and bones and irradiated shit that has class abilities and so on in other slots instead.
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>rare furniture
I didn't even see red items in this game
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FAREWELL WICKED EARTH
SO LONG SKIES OF BLUE
HELLO UNIVERSE
SOMEWHERE BEYOND THE MOON
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ねぇ 歯を磨いて
ねぇ ちゃんと聞いてる?
つかれてるのはわかるけど
いそがしいのもわかるけど
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>>734141229
You have to Jackmaxx and his infinity reward is increase the chance of rare.
Otherwise you need to go routes that have furniture in hard route in act 2/3. I know Bunker does but it's like 50% chance rare. Some act 3 do as well but not sure which.
Set up a fight room. Stop sending kittens to Tink.
It's unclear whether the increase is specific to the next restock or permanent. It doesn't seem very big so likely permanent.
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TAPPING MARSHMALLOW'S TAIL BONE