>>734124719
It’s not good, entirely relies on Windows games. Forces to use Steam to download games. Corporate entity that value money. Bugs that still exist in Linux.

Stop defending this Chinese toy.

i get to play on the couch or on the shitter at the cost of 500 bucks and an infinitely worse gaming experience than i would with my PC.

>>734125009
>entirely relies on Windows
It's Linux based.

>>734125221
First handheld?

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>>734125009
>It’s not good, entirely relies on Windows games
Why is having access to Windows games a bad thing?
>Forces to use Steam to download games.
Blatant lie, you can easily skip Steam with Lutris or Heroic.
>Corporate entity that value money
Meaningless statement. All corpos value money.
>Bugs that still exist in Linux.
Yeah, but it's still a very solid experience with 90% of my games.

>>734125009
>Forces to use Steam to download games.
Why are tendies so dishonest?

why dont valve combine their streaming tech and make a handheld that plays games on your pc streamed onto a gamepad+ display

>>734124719
It's a great device. But let's not pretend this guy's hands are not gonna start hurting after 5 minutes of playing like this.

>>734124719
Consumerism, which is ironic because I'm saying this is defence of another computer.

Capitalism encourages parasocial relationships with brands, someone that plays on Xbox or PlayStation making it part of their identity means they're far less likely to buy their competitors product if it's objectively better.
With the SteamDeck it gets a bunch of hate because this parasocial relationship sees it as a challenge to Nintendo, and Sony and Xboxs handhelds.

It's just retarded loyalty to capitalist brands. Especially with all forms of media encouraging an us Vs them mentality within everything, falling for capitalism gimmicks is inevitable.

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no thanks but I'm still sticking to my gaming laptop

>>734125278
i've had every single nintendo handheld and also the deck OLED and my complaints with it are just the same as the switch and switch 2:

it's an oversized piece of hardware that is teetering on the opposite of portable. the fact that i have to carry this 5 pound piece of plastic with it's carrying case whenever i have to go outside is stupid. portable? sure inconvenient? hard yes.

look at the DS, the Gameboy, PSP, Vita. consoles designed to fit in your pockets with games designed to be played for 5-15 minutes

>>734125315
>how do I translate this controller's design into an anime girl's face?
>fuck it just make a third of the controller's features be hair accessories

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>>734125221
>>734125405
>not using moonlight for pc streaming
>>734125505
>laptop
yikes

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Can't help but notice in OP's video the console is like, partially rotated because that's how you need to hold it in order to work the trackpad the way that guy is.
99% of people will not be able to do this, or at least, they would never bother trying to get good with this style of play. The trackpads are fine, but not great.
But if these devices are gonna be so big and heavy they need detachable controllers. I own Legion Go 2 and it's hard to go back to the Deck because it's not as simple to play tabletop mode and, let's be real, 7 inches is still too small for PC games with small text and UI elements.

>>734125009
>entirely relies on Windows games. Forces to use Steam to download games
You can install whatever you want on it. It's literally just a portable x86 computer with a built in controller

>>734124719
>no 'ick on 'eck is
cringe

>>734124719
>Look I'm using controller so I can set auto aim on

>>734125009
>It’s not good, entirely relies on Windows games.
false. I play Linux games on it a LOT. Yes, it probably shouldn't have as heavy reliance on Proton as it does, but it still plays 90% of all games on Steam. That's pretty damn good.
>Forces to use Steam to download games.
Also false. You can install any game you want on it, even pirated ones.
>Corporate entity that value money.
Assuming you mean that they "overly" value money. Valuing money at all is a good thing so you don't go bankrupt and can't provide services. Anyways, Valve seems like one of the better big companies out there right now who just want to make good products for as reasonable of a price as they can. Regardless of whether you like them or not they're FAR better than most other AAA dev studios and almost every other tech company.
>Bugs that still exist in Linux.
As opposed to the ones in Windows 11?

>>734125573
>local artist incapable of putting a laptop on his lap

>>734126648
>People presenting things in a disingenuous way to push their agenda
I can't believe it, what a shock, next thing you will tell me people go on the internet and lie right???

>>734124719
Ouya, Stadia, Steam Deck. The holy trinity. As in, holy shit those products are bad.

>>734125254
>>734126109
>>734126431
The games, the single most important part of Steam Deck is on Windows OS only. You people never fix the “leaving Windows” when your toy depends on it.

>>734125315
>>734125371
>Don’t install Steam
>Realize you need Steam to download the game that’s only available in Steam
Why are you people dumb.

>>734130292
>The games, the single most important part of Steam Deck is on Windows OS only.
what? you do know it runs on linux right? proton is just a compatibility layer.

>>734130292
>The games, the single most important part of Steam Deck is on Windows OS only.
they run better than they would if you installed windows on it? what's your fucking problem here retard?

>Realize you need Steam to download the game that’s only available in Steam
you do know that this thing is equivalent to a fully jailbroken console from the get go right?

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>>734125009
>Chinese toy

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>>734130292
>mfw linux is better pretending to be windows than windows itself
ohnononono microkeks btfo

>>734130631
Like to simplify it. All 32-bit software on windows runs on 64-bit windows through a compatibility layer that converts 32-bit stuff to 64-bit ones on the fly. Proton does the same thing but it's Windows to Linux.

>>734130631
>>734130658
Linux doesn’t have games, that’s why you people always say use Proton. Also it’s incompatible with other platforms outside the OS it was built for so you can’t say it can play Linux games if the system doesn’t allow it.

A full jailbreak console can play Nintendo Switch games. Steam Deck can not.

>>734130918
>Also it’s incompatible with other platforms outside the OS it was built for
this is literally also false. As long as you have the library files required, it'll run. I've done that before for a custom Linux port of Megaman Sprite Game I made.

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It's so funny that people think the Steam Deck is reliant on Steam when it literally runs Math Munchers Deluxe which was a game from my childhood completely fine via Proton and better than Windows 11 which will bring up an error when trying to launch it. And if Steam ever shits the bed I can just put Kubuntu or Windows on it, the bootloader isn't locked.

>>734130918
what's wrong with using proton? do you expect valve to spend billions on paying developers to make native ports that would run 5% faster?
in the end games play fine and better than they would on jeetdows, as seen in benchmarks vs the xbox ally
same soc, more power and less performance when it's confined to jeetdows

>A full jailbreak console can play Nintendo Switch games. Steam Deck can not.
it can? what the fuck are you talking about? do you know how easy it is to crack steam games? it plays your tendie games too, and more of them since you need to beg for backwards compatibility
all without people wasting their time on jailbreaks
you're a genuine moron, stop talking about things you don't understand

>be me
>get steam deck for grad school
>cheaper than ipad
>use it with bt keyboard in class. estimated battery life 15 hours
>dock it at home with a 100hz vrr monitor and mechanical keyboard
>playing hogwarts legacy and marvel rivals and overwatch and halo infinite atm
>runs software needed for design class, unlike ipad
>do assignments
>friend wants to play fortnite
>k
>dual boot into windows
>do that for a bit
>he logs off
>boot back into steamos to wash the filth off
>feels good man

>>734131170
>what's wrong with using proton
not them but devs SHOULD put more work into Linux ports. Proton is great, but native linux ports are 9 times out of 10 going to be better. It being overly reliant on Proton is a valid complaint, but it's also like such a nitpick lol.

>>734130918
I've played Linux games on my Steam Deck, including non-Steam games for Linux, so you're either clueless or deliberately lying. Either way, you're a waste of air.

>>734124719
I am turbo shit at using a controller. I need a mouse and keyboard for everything. I have no problem with the Deck though, it's a weak PC but does the job of running old games which is what I mostly play.

>>734131269
they should ditch directx and switch to vulkan, that's all that really needs to happen for now, valve needs to iron out the kinks and fully lay out all the details for developing native linux shit
and with the coming steam arm expansion they will, you're not going to gimp your game with forced raytracing and directx when you can be selling to all those phone users

>>734131435
100% agree

>>734126648
I can see how that'd be ok if you already have cancer

>>734124719
>Why are people upset
*tendies

I'm pissed that Steam hardware petered out because now Valve really has no reason to fix their buggy fucking software.
>bring deck out of sleep
>gamescope crashes
>controller doesn't work (original steam controller)
>reboot
>now sound doesn't work (literally no knob on the volume bar)
>reboot
>finally get to play games again
This shit never ends with Valve

>>734131032
>Kubuntu
>Windows
But why
Just use Arch or an Arch-based Distro instead since that's what SteamOS is

>>734131665
I don't want to compile every fucking piece of software when it has a debian release lmao

>>734126648
He's holding his laptop in his hands because it illustrates the stupid implications of the claim that a laptop can do the same things as a Steam Deck. If he put the laptop on his lap in the second panel then he might as well put the PC at a desk in the third. The point is that a laptop isn't a handheld, and if you're going to say the laptop should be used differently from a Steam Deck then you're just agreeing that the argument mocked by the comic is wrong.

>>734131557
>gamescope crashes
never encountered this
the only issue I've encountered is sound which is kind of an issue with Linux itself and not exclusive to SteamOS

>>734131691
You never need to compile Anon
>Debian
Horrible for gaming

>>734131829
>You never need to compile Anon
AUR is compiling

>>734131876
AUR is not needed for most relevant stuff
If that bothers you too much, there's also this thing called Chaotic-AUR

>>734131981
>AUR is not needed for most relevant stuff
lmao

>>734132005
What do you actually need to install?

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>Enter Steam Deck thread
>Tendy already mad
Classic.
Stay mad.
I'm playing Ape Escape 3 on the shitter, on the TV and at work.

>>734124719
it's a PC, so it's mean for browns

>>734132101
>it's not capatilized
>i'ts mean for
I think YOUR the one that's brown anon.

If you wanted to stick to emulating older games, how is the AYN Thor?

>>734131748
I'm thinking right now of being a cheap 600 bucks laptop or a steam deck since i will be travelling alot soonish. Pros cheap laptop: typing, work, can still run non intensive games cons: only oldish games. Pros deck: run any steam game, controller cons: not really a pc? No keyboard, idk if I can browse etc on that thing

>>734132224
I dunno. cost of a steam deck and keyboard could be cheaper than a laptop.

>>734131751
>never encountered this
I've encountered it a bunch of times, you probably have also if you do anything with your Deck

Also coming out of sleep, input just doesn't work for about 15 seconds, that's fun
>the only issue I've encountered is sound which is kind of an issue with Linux itself and not exclusive to SteamOS
It isn't a Linux issue, it doesn't happen on any of my Linux devices, or even the Deck when in desktop mode. Gaming mode (i.e. the mode most reliant on Valve's work) is fucked.

>>734125009
>entirely relies on Windows games
As opposed to the switch relying on switch games? Or the ps5 relying on ps5 games? Or the xbox whatever relying on xbox whatever games?
>Forces to use Steam to download games
Incorrect.
>Corporate entity that value money
Valve is by far the least greedy and most customer friendly of the major gaming companies.
>Bugs that still exist in Linux
Such as? I'm sure you've actually used one and are speaking from experience.

>>734132296
Deck isn't available in any countries anymore. It's de facto discontinued.

>>734132189
Heard it had some major hardware issue at launch (like the thing straight up was falling apart) but nobody's complaining about it now so I'm guessing it got fixed in the second run? It's Android based so you're only going to be able to use emulators that released for Android. You have retroarch, but you're slightly more limited otherwise.

>>734132224
you can plug a keyboard and mouse into the Steam Deck via any USB-C dock. So if you wanna use it like a laptop you can.

>>734132378
well it sucks you're having an issue nobody else is having. at least you're somehow not having an issue that other people have though.

>>734132427
This is false. The Deck is continuing to be made, it's just going to go out of stock more often. They're making as many as they can with the shortages. It just recently went back in stock in the US for a bit.

>>734132224
The trackpads work as trackballs/cursors for virtual keyboard handling
Works fairly well compared to the shitty touchscreen and using analog sticks. But I wouldn't do serious work on that shit. It's just more manageable than say, a ROG Ally on desktop mode.

Why are tendies so loud with their stupidity? What's the point of spending hours arguing with people about shit you don't understand just to feel better about buying a console instead of a pc? It's fucking wierd.

>>734130918
You don't have a single clue of what you are talking about

I don't understand this dumb bullshit about the deck being exclusive about fucking anything.
I can install a linux distro with no steam on it and run all of my pirated shit there.
Oh it only accepts PC games? That measly 5 fucking billion of them? Oh no, what the fuck man.

>>734132441
>well it sucks you're having an issue nobody else is having.
There are countless issues reported for Deck's sleep mode. I get you just play CS2 with your Deck, some of us actually use it though.

>at least you're somehow not having an issue that other people have though.
With what? Linux audio drivers? Why is that a "Linux issue" on a device where Valve wrote the drivers? Fucking idiot.

>>734132736
ok buddy

>>734132776
What a world, where actual hardcore Steam hardware users get pushback from Valve fanboys.

>>734132851
oh so you are that other guy lmao.

>>734131269
You're basically asking for trouble there. You'll lose most of the support, more people will have trouble getting shit to run properly and everyone will have to be shoved into flatpaking it all up to avoid glibc fuckery again (because some of these people that maintain your libraries do not give a flamboyant fuck about you being able to play a videogame you rightfully purchased if it means "not secure")
Also a lot of native linux ports run like absolute dogshit compared to Proton, sometimes not even half as good, what the fuck are you even on about.

>>734125009
>entirely relies on Windows games
so what
>Forces to use Steam to download games.
it doesnt
>Corporate entity that value money.
which corporation doesnt? is there anything you can play on where the company doesnt value money?
>Bugs that still exist in Linux.
skill issue desu senpai

>>734130990
>>734131313
>Just get the library files
>Just hope the website or dev doesn’t abandon it
Stupid way of living the gaming life

>>734131748
Then get a Tablet stupid, Steam Deck offers nothing new.

>>734132409
>Don’t download Steam
>Realize 99% of games exclusively on Steam
Why are you dumb, plus Valve literally is in court in the USA over contract issues they created to benefit themselves by forcing developers into unfair competition. They are not the good guys.

Linux problem exclusively to Steam is Valve’s own update creates resets. Did you forget that huh cultist.

>>734133834
>just use a tablet
Nah, Winlator is still fucking dogshit.

>>734133563
>Yes let Valve continue to port Windows games.
If Microsoft one day releases something that makes Proton obsolete, don’t go crying to me. Their dumb Ai doesn’t care about your feelings or opinions on games. Don’t forget, Americans don’t have legal protections anymore because you people elected a war criminal.

>>734133834
>Just hope the website or dev doesn’t abandon it
>Stupid way of living the gaming life
doesnt this happen with games all the time?
every other week theres a server shutdown on online games that now become unplayable

>>734133834
>offering the best service and not nickel and diming gamers and making them pay to use their own internet
>maintaining a consistent vision over 30 years
>nothing stopping companies from making launchers and valve doesn't actively try to sabotage competition the way Epic or EA has
>unfair competitions

You are kike cattle

>>734131221
This nigga doin his homework on a steam deck lmao

>>734132851
See the thing is that "pcbros" care about having a great gaming experience and will burn Valve at the stake if the went anti-consumer. You tendies will pay for AI produced downgrades and call other people poor--you are not the same.

>>734134453
Kek. Mods got so tired of consolefag bitching that drone gets autofiltered.

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>>734134303
Umm no they killed Artifact, CSGO, the original Counter Strike game, Nexon Counter Strike. Abandoned Half Life series with other titles. Created Lootbox, allows cheaters in their games. Never updated gerrymod or their game engine.

They are the bad guys.

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>>734134226
>If Microsoft one day releases something that makes Proton obsolete, don’t go crying to me.
if you know what you were talking about, you would be able to give an example on how they would do that
yet, you just fearmonger over a hypothetical that is not even feasable
>release something that will break proton
change the ABI? change what? they dont even want to touch that kernel anymore since its 40 years of legacy crap, if they fuck over proton, they fuck over windows' backwards compatibility
at that point you can just call windows dead

>>734134453
I'm the Steam hardware user, idiot.

should have included an actual keyboard because the on screen one is horrible for trying to do literally anything
if they made a magnetic bluetooth one like ipads have even with smaller keys it would have been fine

>>734134538
>CS
I don't play counterstrike

>lootboxes
other companies took the idea and made it 10 times worse. Hell, some games make your roll for more chances to roll--also
>Fifa 09 (EA) -March 2009
>TF2- 2010
>CS crates -2013

>cheaters
Never played an asian game online, huh?

>>734134585
Sounds something the AI would do, don’t forget it removed the power button. So your augment could have already been fed to Microslop severs and ready to execute.

Remember, these “Ai”s are not real AI. They are dumb copy and paste machine with no brain.

>>734134772
When your post calls someone a valve fanboy then what do you expect someone to think, you confrontational retard?

>>734134947
No they never created a way to gain money, which is why they are being sued.

>>734124719
>Why are people upset at the Steam Deck
Where? I don't think anything is upset

>>734134397
and it’s awesome

>>734124719
>brown
>running aimbot
why is always browns who resort to cheating?

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>>734135238
>aimbot
>clearly using mouse trackpad + gyro
>misses his first shot
Nice try tendie.

>>734135514
>First Super Star Smash dies
>Hardware cost makes Steam Deck unbuildable
Steam deck is this close to dying anon, bad image to upload. Only Nintendo Switch 2 lives.

>>734124719
For some people, if it’s not the best, it’s shit. You can play thousands of great games perfectly fine on it, but it’s shit because it can’t play the most recent high end games on the highest settings.

/v/ is a bunch of 40 year olds who have a hard time comprehending anything that isn't a $5000 gaming pc to play their retail priced pc rentals on

>>734124719
>having to waggle the entire device and fuck your wrists up just to aim
gyro trannies still never making a compelling argument

>>734125813
I'd maybe get the legion Go 2 if they release a steamOs version, im too lazy to do the bazzite bullshit

>>734130918
>please don't use your computing device for computing, only use it for one task and buy a second computing device for another task
>I love windows because it's a general computing device
your stance is blatantly illogical

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>>734130658
>they run better than they would if you installed windows on it?
actually yes, fairly often.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hV3HNr1MTH8

>>734133834
>Just hope the website or dev doesn’t abandon it
you mean... the official debian website? I just search the library there, extract them from the deb and point the app to the folder I keep them in and the game just runs

I had a lcd and bought a rog ally z1 extreme with the insurance money when it croaked

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>>734125009
>>734130292
>implying MacOS and Linux by default has had the same level of support for game development compared to Windows
>implying you can't boot directly into the Arch distro SteamOS runs on
>implying you can't emulate games and run your library entirely on them as opposed to Steam games
Just admit you hate Valve and move on. Being this dishonest and disingenuous is why you keep arguing with everyone.

>>734131269
Nah, games NEED a translation layer to code to because they're closed source and one-shot deals (outside of EA/live service slop). If you don't want old games to rot or to freeze userspace forever, you need a condom to wrap the abandoned code in.
Windows uses a compatibility wrapper for most games as well iirc. It's not really practical to do otherwise. The only games that should be native linux are open source with ongoing development, like gzdoom etc.
desu when you look at how much OS and driver vendors have to hack around games shitcode you wonder why it's so rare for games to be open source. It doesn't stop you from selling your game at all, no one is not buying Doom because of Freedoom

>>734125009
>entirely relies on Windows games
The fuck, no?
> Forces to use Steam to download games
You can uninstall Steam and use whatever launcher (or no launcher if you're feeling like it)
It's just a pc
>Corporate entity that value money
Give us one corporate entity that doesn't value money; that's the point of a corporation
>Bugs that still exist in Linux
One of the good points of it being Linux (and especially Arch) is that it will be patched at some point, and if the people originally making it stop, others (or yourself) will still be able to do it
>Stop defending this Chinese toy
But enough about [your favorite console]

>>734130918
consolefags are so retarded they have to bring their console war faggotry to OS's
>linux doesn't have games
what kind of deranged statement is this man, you install a distro of your choosing enable proton and wow suddenly linux has ALL the games

>>734125405
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.valvesoftware.steamlink

Steam deck was good for what it’s marketed as. I got one as a prelude to the Steam Machine to build up a library as I just made my Steam account in December when it arrived but the delay killed that dream. Sadly the Deck didn’t suit me well and I ended up selling it a few weeks back to offset grabbing a PS5 Pro just in time for pssr to get a boost so that’s nice.

My goal for the deck was TV play on my 55” but half the games had hard to read text and performance was all over. Lossless scaling helped but I don’t like tinkering with game settings or trying to figure out why something isn’t working as it should be so I punched eject on that experience pretty fast. I just have no need for a handheld or PC, I’m going on 45 and pretty set in my ways seems.

>>734124719
Because it's actually good. It shits all over consoles and of course that's going to upset battered housewife, sunk cost consoleplebs.

>>734125009
Why do you people feel compelled to comment on and criticize things you know absolutely nothing about? Ask yourself that and try not to be ashamed of the answer.

>>734130918
I hope you're just pretending to be retarded with how wrong you are

>>734124719
God this console looks like cheap slop next to a Switch 2.

>>734144417
switch 2 is literally cheap slop
no oled? 20wh battery? come the fuck on
nintendo makes a lot of money per unit and they can't make your experience enjoyable?

>>734144417
This looks cheap to you?
Wait until you see the Switch 2

if only 9t was smaller i'd enjoy it more

Release the fucking controller already Gabe, I'm sick of waiting.

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>shill a failure with even worse sales than the ps vita
>get called out as a shill
>play victim

>>734125009
this post really confuses me

>>734124719
Tendies

>>734144417
Switch 2 has an underclocked display with unusually high frame persistence, blurring and ghosting in motion- because they wanted to reduce the display's power draw instead of giving it a bigger battery as they should have.
An issue no modern PC handheld has, including the Deck

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Shouldn't have shilled it as the "switch killer" only to sell 150 million units less than the switch

>Steam is the main force beyond gyro aiming support and improvement
Pretty based

>>734145609
>tendies so mindbroken they still compare the sales of one single device that shares a library with every pc in existence to their toy that's the only option in their generation
your console would flop if you could officially play its games without buying it
it's shit

>>734145885
It is the switch killer. It shits all over the switch and is so objectively better I will never buy another nintendo system or console in general ever again. You and nintendo can kneel and thank gayben for not marketing it out the assor rolling it into every retailer that will take it like a console.

>>734146063
That’s more due to them being unable to meet demands for floor space. Look at how few units they sell compared to the others and how they can’t even keep their own store in stock atm. Steam are small fish in a big pond.

>>734144687
>>734144959
>>734145830
RE9, 2077 and more demanding games run much better on Switch 2 than the deck. Cope.

>forced animosity between the Switch 2 and Steam Deck
Peasants crave reintroducing console wars even when the console market is all but dead. PC (which extends to the Steam Deck) + Nintendo device was always the sensible way to go. Steam Deck for my emulators, VNs, indies, etc., and the Switch 2 for first party releases I sink like 300+ hours into.

>>734146282
Is that why the S2 is going on clearance despite all the money and marketing Nintendo dumps into it?
Saying Valve is a small fish in this industry is funny.

>>734146282
The AI-related hardware shortages affecting the Deck are going to affect most other gaming hardware including consoles too, sooner or later.

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I have the steam deck 2 it’s much better and I didn’t need to pay 1300 dollars to buy it. 32gb of ram and I can run the Witcher 3 at 60fps at high settings without using upscaling

>>734146531
you bought multiplats on the worst platform for them only to play them at 40fps upscaled from 540p?

>>734146623
Sony had no trouble securing ram into the next year, their partners trust them. Valve is known for abandoning things and has a far smaller foothold on partners to get shit from, behold the Steam Deck shortages now. They are big fish in digital distribution but not hardware.

>>734146531
Yes, the Switch 2 is somewhat more powerful than the Deck on the inside. Which is why it's a shame that the Switch 2's display was sabotaged by power draw and battery life choices to the point that it looks like cheap slop when it didn't need to

>>734146063
>It is the switch killer.
>It shits all over the switch and is so objectively better
These are not the same statement. The PS Vita objectively shits on the PSP, but it failed to overtake its own older brother.
The selling point of the Switch wasn't that it was a good piece of hardware. It was a cheap piece of hardware that had all the Nintendo games people liked to play. Valve made a much better machine like 4+ years later, but it won't "kill" the Switch.

>>734146531
Objectively wrong. There's a reason you fanboys immediately stopped trying to shitpost over cp2077 the moment it came out. Literally the only game the switch 2 runs better is outlaws, which nobody gives a shit about and the reason it runs worse on the deck is because it has forced raytracing on pc.

>>734146810
>more powerful
it has to do with the efficiency of the chip. It performs a lot better with a much smaller watt budget, and the DLSS on its SoC far outstrips the FSR capabilities of the Deck. The Switch 2 is exactly what it should be in terms of a power ( a mini-PS4), but the screen and battery need revisions. An LCD panel (OLED VRR is tricky to do cheap) with a much lower latency + double the battery life would turn it into a decent machine into an excellent one.

>>734124719
Because it goes against the very principles of PC gaming.
Those principles being keyboard and mouse controls, powerful hardware, and sedentary lifestyle.

>>734146782
The ps5 was also spotted on clearance. Consoles aren't doing so hot. If valve wanted to use their gorillions for hardware, they could. They prefer the slow and steady route. Steam is not reliant on valve hardware so they can easily afford to do so. Console games are utterly reliant on console sales, so they need to throw as much money behind the hardware for as many sales as possible as they start over every 6-7 years. Super risky and bound to inevitably fail.

>>734146894
RE9 literally does run better on Switch 2 than on Deck. 2077 typically runs better than Deck (especially since it's a custom build), but the Deck can tweak a lot of settings, so you can get comparable performance by sacrificing a bit more fidelity. Both completely shit the bed in Dogtown though.
The Switch 2 will generally outperform the Deck by like 10%-20% depending on the graphical needs since its chip is much more efficient and literally just has much better DLSS onboard. We're likely going to see a Monhun Wilds port now that Capcom has overhauled the performance to the point where FSR can give you 30 FPS on Deck locked.

>>734146589
>forced
The moment the deck was announced tendies were shitting all over it in terror and trying to get the threads kicked to /g/. There are definitely genuine fanboys on both sides, but nintendo has the loudest, most obnoxious and dumbest ones.

>>734146841
I'm looking at it today, I'm looking at what it means for the future. There are a number of things that will kill Nintendo's last hardware line, and the Deck is one of them.

got my 'ecker today. its cool. played a bunch of games and installed decky loader and emudeck. i wonder if i should install waydroid on it since i always have issues with it on my main pc due to having a nvidia gpu and waydroid being a dogshit emulator. mainly the Dbus error.

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>>734130918
>A full jailbreak console can play Nintendo Switch games. Steam Deck can not
Does he know?
We have chinkhelds that can run Switch games (that AYN Thor thing can), doing it on the Deck is nothing new

>>734147183
RE9 has a smoother framerate because they noticeably lowered the visuals. Especially it's blurrier in many scenes. The only time the Switch2 can beat the Deck is docked, which defeats the whole purpose of a handheld. And if we factor in all the options the Deck has, like lossless or remote play, it's just not a comparison.
ARM is more efficient, yes, but that doesn't translate to visual fidelity and the battery is so tiny it doesn't translate to good battery life either. The Deck beats it there too.
I would not get your hopes up for Wilds, they're going to have to nuke it hard to get it to run.