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Playstation is becoming more and more an ecosystem for women, gays and trans.
They pussified Kratos and now even fucking Wolverine lmao
Adding insult to injury the next Gow franchise main character is a Mary sue insufferable woman. Lmao
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For real, where are the games?
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Calm down, sister.
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>>734129210
Uhh...
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>>734130006
>that one doesn't count
>the other one doesn't count either
>and neither does that one
>"try again snoytard"
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Consoles are lowest-common-denominator gaming. For a very long time the main advantage of a console was
>its cheaper
>more accessible for kids/easier to use for people who are bad with technology
with the main drawbacks being
>less consumer choice
>smaller games library
>worse graphics/performance
But since the PS4/Xbox One, the "console wars" have ended; consoles are now SONY and NINTENDO, and that's it. Microsoft might push out Xboxes, but the Xbox brand has been regarded as shitty for a very long time. So now
>Sony starts pushing into the PC market
Because now that they don't really have any competition, they can just do what they want.
Consoles have always been about reaching the widest possible audience for the lowest possible cost and with the most tightly controlled end-to-end development. No customisation, no alternative digital storefronts, just whatever the console producer permits you to do. So now consoles are:
>annual ball/gun games (also on PC
>third person cinematic games (also on PC)
>some indie games (also on PC)
>limited exclusivity games (eventually come to PC)
This is why there is a big push for the idea of "renting PCs" because these corporations do not want you to own hardware; they want you to pay them to borrow THEIR hardware, and pay them to borrow their games, so that your entire gaming library is dependant on a monthly payment to them.
>tld;r
Consoles are for children and people bad at technology. Remember to set up your monthly payment plan to rent your next console!
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>>734134695
>consoles are for children
>so buy a PC so you can play a lot more children's games
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>>734135135
Kids also use computers!
That is why I noted in my post that consoles are for the tech illiterate; one of the most common "complaints" people who play consoles have about PC is this idea that
>on a console, I just press play!
>on a PC, I have to fiddle with 100 options first!
Kids play games on many devices. Consoles are for the poorest/stupidest ones.
>>734134739
My own PC specs (and anyone else's) aren't really relevant.
As I said, the appeal of consoles is that you get roughly PC-equivilant hardware (although often without the performance; graphical fidelity usually comes with a 30fps limit mode now) at an affordable price. PC users spend a few hundred dollars every several years to upgrade components, console users spend a few hundred dollars every several years for a new system-and so on.
Like I said
>consoles are best for children, the tech illiterate, or poor people
Doesn't mean they shouldn't exist, consumers just need to know what they're buying.
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Let's look at subscription services, shall we?
The annual cost of the LOWEST tier (there are 3) of Playstation Plus is $79.99. At launch, it was $59.99. Adding up the costs since the PS4 launched:
>2022-2023; $59.99
>2023 price increase to $79.99
So if someone has had the LOWEST tier of Playstation Plus (which is required for ANY multiplayer, plus cloud storage)
>$299.96 spent since launch
Meaning that if someone bought a PS5 in 2020, they spent $499.99. If they used the lowest tier of PS+, their PS5 will have now cost them a grand total of
>$799.95 for a PS5 with access to your own internet (which you also pay for separately)
>Not including games/other services you subscribe to on the PS5
The highest tier of PS+ is nearly $160 a year. Consoles are designed for poor people who use subscriptions/financing to access these things, or for children who's parents pay for it.
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>>734136557
There isn't really much of a difference in convienence between
>turn on pc
>go to games
>press play
and
>turn on console
>go to games
>press play
Maybe back in the PS2 days, but consoles have their own UI/bloat now too.
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>>734136851
PS Plus isn't even required for free to play multiplayer games or single player titles. Also comes with games and packs.
Still, a PS5 at 799 for its relative lifetime use is still a better performer than a 1k+ PC from 2020. Also get the benefits of a safe online ecosystem where hackers/exploiters are not prevalent like they are on PC.
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>>734128150
>literal GOTY and one of highest rated video game ever
>sells 2.3million in 3 months and sony never mentions it again
Funny as fuck and shows that modern PS fanboys dont give a shit about anything else than third person cinematic experiences.
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>>734127715
>Playstation is becoming more and more an ecosystem for women
Sounds great
Only good mh games, were the ones that are designed around women and kids playing them, instead of incel cinematic slop like 4, world and wilds
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>>734137916
Sure but their third person cinematic experiences sell at least 5+ mil in first month while anything different from their first party studios sells less for a reason. Reminder that ecosystem is so starved for anything different that racing game like Forza Horizon 5 is one of best selling piece of software on PS5 as it sold almost 6 million copies in half a year.
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>>734136995
>Still, a PS5 at 799 for its relative lifetime use is still a better performer than a 1k+ PC from 2020
I agree, I think consoles by far remain the safer option; and one of the few upsides of a tightly controlled end-to-end hardware situation means hackers/exploits are easier to tackle.
Both of these (imo) reinforce the idea that consoles are for
>children
>tech illiterate
>poorer people
Which again is not a bad thing, I just don't think the idea of "Console vs PC" being a thing makes any sense.
It's Sony vs Nintendo vs PC.
>>734137613
No anon, it's just hard to have an actual discussion with someone who clearly wants to push everything into lane he feels he can control.
My PC isn't massively powerful; 16gb RAM, RX 7800XT, i5 12600k, playing mostly at 1440p. Consoles by far remain the better value option (especially given the last few years events), but the worse option in terms of capabilities+choice+consumer rights+games library.
It's cheaper to get a console, but there are drawbacks. PCs are better, but there are drawbacks (primarily financial). That's fine too.
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The "exclusivity" argument doesn't really work anymore for consoles either; as of 2026 (more than half a decade into the PS5's lifespan) it has only around 8-10 completely exclusive games; many of which will end up on PC.
The ONLY pro-console arguments are:
>it's fairly cheaper (but not cheap), easier to do for poorer people
>more accessible for kids
>more accessible for people bad with tech
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>>734138402
>consoles are best for children, the tech illiterate, or poor people
>16gb RAM, RX 7800XT, i5 12600k,
You have a poorfag PC. Barely better than a console. If given the option I'd choose a Pro console over your PC. It's always the same from people like you. You make out consoles are bad while PC is some god-tier experience, yet your own PC doesn't fit into the category you try to present PC gaming as.
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>>734138594
>You have a poorfag PC.
I definitely wouldn't say so. I wouldn't call it powerful, but all of those components together can very easily (depending where you are) run up much more than what it costs for a cheaper 1080p alternative, or a console.
>If given the option I'd choose a Pro console over your PC.
I wouldn't, because I like all the extra things I can do with my PC+the vastly larger games library and lack of subscription for multiplayer access.
>It's always the same from people like you.
See what I mean? How is anyone supposed to engage with you when you're just waiting to go on a spiel against some random PC master race faggot that you've invented in your head?
>You make out consoles are bad
No I don't. I make out that they play a specific role in the market, different to that of PC. I make out that they are "worse" in many ways (game library, consumer freedom, etc) but note that this is a trade off that comes with being MUCH more affordable.
>PC is some god-tier experience
I think the PC experience is better than console in almost every circumstance. Definitely wasn't always that way, but as of the last few years it definitely is. Price is the main downfall of PC.
>your own PC doesn't fit into the category you try to present PC gaming as
My PC can and does play new games at 1440p at 60ps without any real issue, sometimes more. I am not presenting my PC as anything other than my PC.
My entire point is that
>consoles play a specific role; better for kids/tech illiterate/people with less money
>pc is "better" but much more expensive
You are very defensive, assumedly because you've already had this entire argument in your head.
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It's a fucking tragedy how badly they turned out. Their presence used to make gaming better. I remember how blown away i was as a kid when I found out that ps2 could also play every ps1 game.
>>734137706
NTA but what consoles now have are all these forced downloads/installs which is way more annoying than a shitty UI.
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>>734137706
>No they don't.
Yes, consoles absolutely do have their own UI and bloat now. The PS5, for example, has a dashboard; you select which game or app you want to launch from there.
It really isn't that different to pressing play on a game on your desktop/steam.
>>734139548
Agreed. I moved to PC during the 8th Gen Consoles; the lack of games on the PS4 and the shitshow that was the Xbox One felt like it was time to move on. Similarly to the PS3, the PS4's library improved over time-and the PS5 did well given the complete death of any real competition as time went on.
Consoles are rammed with anti-consumer practices, and these practices are being attempted on PC by certain groups who do very well on console (such as Epic Games).
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>>734138879
>I definitely wouldn't say so
I would.
>I wouldn't, because I like all the extra things I can do
First you talk about gaming then you quickly flip to PC stuff outside of gaming when it suits you.
I bet nearly everything you do on your PC out of gaming could be done on a tablet.
>See what I mean? How is anyone supposed to engage with you when you're just waiting to go on a spiel against some random PC master race faggot that you've invented in your head?
Not sure if you remember but you started by called everyone with a console a child, a moron or a poorfag. Now you're crying like a faggot about engagement.
>I think the PC experience is better than console in almost every circumstance.
Yes it is. But not your PC. The gaming experience of your PC isn't better than a console. It's probably a lot worse than console in quite a few newer titles.
>You are very defensive,
I'm not defensive. I'm telling you your little rant about the inferiority of a console is funny as fuck when you have a dogshit computer. You're being defensive because you don't like what you're being told.
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