>>734135075
It's a blast. A lightning in a bottle.

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>>734135075
>Coolest setting
Are you talking original game's setting or this one?

Extraction shooters are one of the best genres, but they're rarely done well. Marathon is a good extraction shooter.

Can anyone tell me why they think it’s a bad genre beyond boomer tears about campaigns or TDM? You get the shooty gameplay loop and the actual objectives are much more interesting because it’s not a cakewalk and there’s a real discovery process/stakes.

>>734135520
>play this shooter where you're not supposed to shoot anyone because it depletes your resources
>if you get killed one time, you're booted back into the lobby
>all the starting weapons are shit, you have to bring upgrades which you will lose if you die
Anon, 90% of people play games because they enjoy faffing about and this game deliberately punishes faffing about.

>>734135941
>you’re not supposed to shoot
? Ammo isn’t hard to come by and it’s cheap and you can trade special items for it too.

>>734135520
The problem is all the elements end up contradicting each other and making a game that's worse than if you played a dedicated PvP or PvE game instead
>PvE elements get dumbed down to not make them overwhelming when PvP, always results in brain dead bullet sponge AI that aren't fun or rewarding to fight
>PvP players have more menus and downtime to go through to engage in PvP, plus dumbed down PvE busywork if they want to unlock new toys for their PvP
>RPG elements either totally break the PvP and are mandatory for the PvE or don't matter at all, a good balance has never been reached by any who attempted it

Coolest setting? You're rummaging through abandoned research outposts on a weird planet looking for junk.

I don't get what's so cool about sci-fi settings.
You take a gun, put some pointless cathode tubes on it, and what now it's interesting? Fuck off with that

>>734135246
NTA. I know close to nothing about the Marathon series. I just like the visuals on the game, as well as this kind of transhumanist sci-fi, so I think the setting is cool.
https://youtu.be/RNTvrwEvuyM

>>734135075
The game is very, very good though. Its incredibly unforgiving and embodies a new kind of cyberpunk that is very cold. Game and gunplay is very satisfying and successful runs (and even unsuccessful ones) are crazy addicting. I can't wait for release desu. /v/ revels in failure so they'll twist Marathon into something negative but I dont give a damn.

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hmmm... I wonder what could've gone wrong with the game's development

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>>734135075
Reminds me of the dragon age veilguard chilling

>>734138847
>that headline
I think we're up to pre release cope article #3 on 'It's not a flop! Shut up!' I hope some anon is making a compilation.

>>734138847
>what made destiny great

>>734139042
Sure as fuck it wasn't bungie
Vicarious vision carried them hard

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>>734135075
>coolest vidya setting
Prefab buildings with agressive colors isn't cool.

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I enjoyed it, though the genre does drag it down. Bungie has done well in the past with narrative focused games and I can't see this as being anything but better if it resembled Marathon or Halo with a strong linear story and more focused multiplayer mode.
Mixing the two feels unescessary and contrived.
Sex with Recon SHELLs

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not my marathon

>>734136998
>>734137147
Science fiction is typically a sort of philosophical exercise envisioning what society could evolve into given certain preconditions. The aesthetic is often deliberately uncanny to complement whatever unsettling, dystopian themes are being explored.
>>734138240
I'm a little confused what you're positing, anon. Are you suggesting that this tranny forced the game to be an extraction shooter--a genre that is infamously only played by chuds?

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>no new map at launch
>end game content drops later
>account wipes every 3 months
>premium battle passes
>anti cheat already cracked by aim bots
Looks like team rocket is blasting off again

>>734135075
Something something Sony really wanted another live service game, probably. It's probably very obvious to everyone apart from the suits that Marathon would work much better as a proper narrative-driven experience given how much effort has gone into the world and presentation and making everything all weird and surreal but nah, we've got to have another endless multiplayer treadmill in arguably the worst genre of live service game going at the moment.

>>734135075
You mean roblox?

>>734135075
Because if you turned those 4 maps into a singleplayer campaign you'd have about 40 minutes of content

>>734139978
Resetting every 3 months to reset the power curve is a good thing. Why would late adopters want to join if they feel perpetually behind? Getting to keep season specific cosmetics and titles/banners, etc., still provides a sense of progress.

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>>734135075
Works on my machine, have you tried not being a shitter?

>>734135075
Literally how I felt about Concord. "Space bandits doing space hijinx" had so much fucking promise but it was a goddamn hero shooter.

>>734139819
>You never get a gun like that in any Marathon game

>>734140340
Shut the fuck up retard no other extraction game has 3 months resets. Non. Normal people don't have time to grind to end game every 3 months.

>>734135075
the game looks fucking bland as shit and I don't understand why everyone is hyping up the art style. shit looks like placeholder graphics
>but its SUPPOSED to look like shit!
well they did a good fucking job then, its still terrible.

>>734140478
I don't play extractionslop, but wouldn't the sweats just grind like neets and be topped out after a few weeks then proceed to rape everyone who hasn't grinded as much as them for the rest of the period until the reset?

>>734136072
I think part of this comes from people only playing Perimeter which has fuck all of any loot, but Marsh has way more stuff available.

Is there such a thing as a single player or PvE-only extraction shooter?

>>734140340
>>734135520
Holy stockholm syndrome.
>explain why this is bad but these topics are off limits
You literally sound like a fucking tranny.

>>734140357
>brown
>illiterate
>1080p
>shilling
good morning

>>734140739
aint that just stalker

>>734140478
Is Marathon supposed to copy every other extraction shooter? They made an intelligent design choice to keep the game from stagnating.

>>734140536
I guess you forgot the part where seasons are 3 months long. If you don't like the competitive aspect in any degree, then multiplayer games that involve player versus player killing matches are not for you, so your point about people grinding for the best gear is moot. Those people are still going to be better than you at killing with or without the best gear.

GARISHMAXXED art style is something else
me, personally? i dont care for it much

>>734140478
What a shit argument.
>this has never been done before!
>this is so Le unprecedented!
>omfg fps games are supposed to have campaigns are team deathmatch!
>I hate change I hate new thing!!

>>734140739
Yea, Arc Raiders and Marathon.
You can literally go mutiple runs without seeing another player in Marathon due to its non existing playerbase

>>734140536
No because those faggots will be in the end game map and everyone else will be on low level maps. Are you genuinely stupid?

>>734140739
I played ten matches of marathon and never encountered another player

>>734135520
Helldivers works because you have effectively infinite lives.
A shooter where the game ends and you have to requeue after getting shot is shit. This goes for BR and extraction shooters. Even search and destroy has rounds.

>>734140969
>it's not for you
retard, I was asking whether, in the 3mo reset model, the sweats wouldn't just be raping everyone for 2 of those 3mo. If that's part of the intended experience, then this shit deserves the 5k dedicated players it will get.

>>734141052
Why would the sweats not want to stomp people? Or do you mean they're forced to only go to the high end map?

all they had to do was find a good middleground between arc raiders and tarkov but they fucked that up by having at ttk near tarkovs
you are either hardcore like tarkov or you are casual if you want your live service game to do good. its just that simple

>>734141178
Oh, they're forced to go to the high end map alright if ya catch my drift

>>734141094
I’m so tired. You don’t have to like it buddy but plenty of people do, I don’t see an issue. You play a round for 10-20 minutes perfectly acceptable.

>>734135520
>the actual objectives are much more interestin
>press e on this terminal
>press e on this other terminal
>break 20 glass panes
>kill somebody
yeah really innovating the questing here

>>734141282
If plenty of people do why are you here defending it. Extraction shooters are oversaturated, just like hero shooters.

>>734141282
>ask a question
>get answer
>"ughhhh I'm so tired, here's this irrelevant dribble from my mouth unrelated to your answer "

Buy an ad like everyone else.

that opening trailer is pretty cool, if the different fonts in the game was specifically for each of the individual companies that you can do different quests for, that would make for a good experience
it doesnt really make sense why a future earth would want to extract stuff from a generation ship sent from earth over 400 years ago
all of that tech would be ancient and they could probably have faster ships in that time so when they learned about tau ceti and the troubles of the marathon, they could go to the ship/planet instead of manufacturing drones

>>734141239
>if you catch my drift
I actually don't.

>>734135075
This game is amazing, 23hrs I put in as Destroyer shell. It’s a very dangerous game, everything can kill you and you have to move strategically. Me and some players in trios my last games wiped 2 teams at North Relay, I took my biggest exfil haul of 14k. I’ve done a lot of dying though also doing missions, I got like $29k cash and $28k vault worth with 30+ health kits and 30+ shield kits. Having an absolute blast!!!

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>>734135520
I want to shoot people, not walk around looking at the floor

>>734140478
tarkov resets every 6 months, 3 months is too soon

>>734141414
Not an argument.
>>734141430
>irrelevant
You made an appeal to how long matches are.
>wahh it’s shit so it’s shit that’s final

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>>734141505
Yeah, I was having trouble justifying the story too. My guess is that it's all just a cover and these Corps and Factions are really just interested in the aliens etc.
Unfortunately this will all just be lore dumped in the codex.

>highest and lowest player counts have been dropping 10k every day
it's over

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>>734141505
>it doesnt really make sense why a future earth would want to extract stuff from a generation ship sent from earth over 400 years ago
>all of that tech would be ancient and they could probably have faster ships in that time so when they learned about tau ceti and the troubles of the marathon, they could go to the ship/planet instead of manufacturing drones

The colony is not the one the Marathon built, that was glassed to nothing by the aliums 3 months after events of the first game (told in Marathon 2) what happens is
>Marathon takes 300 years to get there
>builds colony
>attacked, sends distress call
>distress call takes 12 years to reach earth
>nu-lore begins here - UESC sends ship in response, takes 94 years to arrive
>in that time, corps are using advanced faster ships and the exfill molecule transportation technology to rebuild colony
>they get it to ~30k people again but then they all disappear

That's why we are recuperating the losses, and everything looks brand new, because it is. This is not explained properly in the game.

>>734140739
Duckov, exclusively single player by development but I think the co-op mod is officially recognized

>>734141785
Yes, the beta is literally over and all progress is being wiped today. lol.

>>734140739
Tarkov has official and unofficial PvE modes.

>>734141926
Oh and in old lore, during that 94 years the UESC also defeated the aliums

>>734141717
>he was talking about how long matches are!
Literally no one did. Find the quote you think relates to this and gain some reading comprehension.

Buy an ad.

>>734135075
The art direction will kill this game and for the first time ever its not about ugly women, its about a legitimate bad aesthetic

>>734141926
i havent played marathon, i did see that the originals are on steam for free so when i get a new pc im gonna play them (my old one died), what happened to the hero from the first 3 games that sent the distress signal from the marathon?

>>734135108
It isn't when you have to say it.

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>>734141926
Oh shit, really?
I honestly assumed this was completely disconnected from the original lore.

>>734142638
There are some connections, but remember it's being written by modern day Bungie and not 1994 Bungie. Expect lower quality and woke shit to seep in.

>>734135075
Quit being a fag and embrace the chaos of PvPvE. Enough with the save scumming and checkpoints, you niggers need to push yourselves beyond your limit.

>>734142572
Durandal the ships janitor AI, kidnaps him, and some surviving colonists which he turned into cyborgs, takes them on a ship to some other alien planet and they fight a war to liberate it. Some crazy shit with a God that lives inside a sun happens, eventually they make it back to earth and tell everyone about the aliens who attacked the Marathon, UESC piledrives them.

>>734142638
I preferred it when we were pilferring the old colony desu

>>734135246
No one cares about your shitty unc slop, bro.

>>734142267
shut up, zoomer

PvPvE could work but the TTK is so low it's kill on sight, it's faster to shoot a mf in the head that it is to say "friendly" and have it register with the stranger.
I played 10 hours and coop-ish happened only once in solo queue because i saw the dude hiding in a container and stood infront of it with my knife jumping up and down even while getting shot, doing upwards downwards motions. I still got nearly killed and we both extracted succesfully but yeah.
TLDR ; increase TTK and there will be a real human component, rn it's simply kill everything that's not AI.

>>734142993
I haven't finished Infinity yet, but isn't that last part what happens with the crew who leaves you behind in Marathon 2 and not the security officer?

>>734143306
Maybe it's it's a blur

>>734143287
>TTK too low
Ok doshit, now try killing a purple shield player as a free kit, then get back to me.

>>734143476
Jamie bring up the ttk spreadsheet

Guys... the server slam is over... I don't know how I can survive until the game officially releases... how am I supposed to have a blast now??

>>734143287
But if they increase the TTK, how will we get our ebin adderall monkey 1v3 clips?

>>734143476
Link your faceit before calling anyone dogshit.

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>box is rad as fuck
>figure looks like shit

Curious

>game is too slow i don't want to look at the floor
>no adderall monkey 1v3 if they increase TTK
make up your fucking minds

>>734135108
a return to lighting in a blast

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>>734143287
I managed three friendly engagements. Two were just passing by with waves of knives and the friendly ping. The other was as a Rook, teaming up with another Rook at an exfil to ward off a three stack.

>>734144146
adderral monkey: "game is too slow i don't want to look at the floor"

It's that easy anon

>>734144036
Big and tasteless figurines completely ruined Collector's Editions for me. It's just a cheap way for the publisher to skyrocket prices, right? All I want is a cool box and an art booklet. Reach had a cool box, but games like Halo 2 and Oblivion had the best ones.

>>734144036
The box is insane. The figurine is above average as far as this kind of shit goes.

>>734144516
yeah I had more friendlies than I was expecting. In solos, if you see someone fighting UESC and you help clear the area, they'll usually leave you alone. Walk around each other, loot the area, then go on your way.

>>734139941
the game had no chance of being good, regardless of the genre, since it was developed by trannies

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>>734140739
If they add a PvE mode with more AI enemies and shit I'd honestly probably buy Marathon, I genuinely liked everything about it apart from it being a fucking PvP extraction shooter. Never going to happen though, can't let anything get in the way of peddling cosmetics to players through the medium of "oohhh look at how shiny and cool the guy who just killed you looks maybe you should spend money to be like him".

>>734144681
You should see the shit they gave you for MGS Delta's collector ed. The amiibo Snake looked better than it

>>734135075
My thoughts exactly.

>>734140739
Witchfire and Zero Sievert off the top of my head.

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>>734145013
Skill issue pal, maybe try not being a bitch

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>>734145241
>ACK!

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>>734145241
I'm sorry Mr. Marketer but I'm afraid I will NOT be purchasing your game as it does not cater to my tastes.

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>>734145380
Offing Vandals is even better, you can see despair in their face

>>734135075
What's so cool about it?

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>>734145650
lmao

>>734145650
anon you is a vandal, dont bully your sisters!

The hype is real

>>734140256
Marathon was in development long before Sony bought them and it was always planned to be an extraction shooter because the tarkov early access came out 6 months before Marathon development started. Some high up at Bungie saw Tarkov and thought they should copy that and here we are

>>734140739
COD Zombies had a year where it was a PVE extraction shooter and it was fun

>Marathon has lost ALL of its players
That’ll teach them to make a woke extraction shooter

>>734146761
>woke extraction shooter

I'm not sure why it gets called woke

>>734146761
The playtest ended this morning, I think.

I played the tutorial mission, died at extraction, and it wanted me to start the entire thing over from the beginning. What kind of game doesn't have basic checkpointing in the single player mode?
Anyway, is there anything worth looking around for in the tutorial outside the buildings you're guided to? Any tips on finishing it easily so I don't have to do it again?

>>734135520
It's boring. Sometimes you can go an entire match without even seeing another human. Plus the quest shit is lame
"Go flip a switch"
"Go pick up a funko pop"
It's retarded.

>>734146806
garish colors are woke now

>>734146761
what's woke about it

>>734146914
It uses the colors of the pride flag!!!

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>>734146842
>I played the tutorial mission, died at extraction

this is why we can't have good games

>>734147057
??

>>734140739
The Forever Winter. It's janky and buggy as hell but it's awesome. The atmosphere is so good.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0NfKoPmWvac

>>734146842
Theres rly no need to. I died twice too and then didnt bother a third time and i can manage jist fine now at lv 10 after i got the ropes

>>734146827
That’s the joke

>>734147386
what a godawful trailer showing you 0 gameplay

>>734147517
it's a cinematic trailer retard

>>734147773
It did nothing to make me interested in the game you stupid piece of shit

>>734138240
it zieglers fault they should've put that valorant monkey in some deep dark chaamber

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>>734147386
fundog completely dropped the ball with the forever winter, shit is borderline unplayable jankcore to this day and massive, serious efforts at optimization are still nowhere to be seen. besides that the AI of the troopers and such running around hasn't been given the lavish attention called for to make them earnestly tactile and properly alive. the maps need to be procedurally generated each go with a pool of setpieces and pre-defined geometries that define the archetype of the area being entered and such besides but there's no example of that really properly being done anywhere because it'd ostensibly be too much work even if it would revolutionize what these sorts of games amount to. i am not able to take the settings of any entries in this awful genre seriously because the boxes are being repopulated on literally the exact same map and locale from match to match minutes later in a new round. it's not in good faith to the settings or the sci-fi or the story or whatever of it all. one has to be frankly stupid or willingly wearing blinders to swallow it in the slightest. games need to be better.

all this said yes what the forever winter first conveys in its setting and feel and hilariously horrific and oppressive vibe is second to none and throws marathon or whatever else into a woodchipper by comparison. absolutely gnarly and hellish in extremis. i really do love it on that front but so much else about it fails to live up to the standard that sets whatsoever

>>734147828
that cinematic trailer is actually pretty close to the gameplay, it shows a squad saving some civilians, collecting water as reward, exploring these epic vista warzone maps, doing jumping puzzles, scavenging loot, planes dropping cyborg enemies, encountering a big mech and one player dying and one getting out. All this happens in the actual game. it's not obvious from watching, but after playing it's really fun to watch that trailer back and see all the connections to the gameplay. The biggest draw to the game is the atmosphere though so if that trailer didn't interest you, stay away

>>734148030
Just die in a car accident you stupid fuck

>>734148071
one of the classes is Gunhead, a robot with a gun for a head

>>734148030
damn if the game really was that then it would be fun. but right now its just a pvp sweatfest deathmatch that actively punishes you

I had enough fun over the weekend to justify buying the game, but I think I'll wait until they release a roadmap or something.
I want to see how hard they go on monetizing their quarterly seasons.

>>734148151
fuck you

>>734148550
there's also a cool gameplay overview trailer if you wanna see more ingame stuff https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIRrKM4AUW4

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The game would have bean an amazing Stalker like.
But they had to make it a Multiplayer Live service game because Sony acquired them specifically for that reason.

>>734148756
faggot

>>734146914
>androgynous they/them characters
>Bungie being a known superwoke studio and being expected to inject more woke stuff over time, like the tranny Darth Vader skin

It's like a woke down payment for now.

So now that the dust has settled, we all like this game.

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>>734148941
at least they didnt put a fat nigger in the game

>>734149027
No, it's still reviled and made the subject of jokes and memes.

>>734149078
Not yet.

>>734148941
so in other words, it's not actually woke

>>734135075
Complete trooncore aesthetic.

>>734149112
why is it reviled?

>duuuuuuuude it's like ironically ugly
>here you go, 500 million bucks, do whatever you want
Does american-based Sony Interactive Entertainment really?

>>734149164
>>734149198
let's see some good aesthetics, then

>>734149198
they already did some shit-filtering to make it less bright, even though that was what drew me to the game

>>734149138
It's partially woke and on the way to becoming woke as Bungie adds more content based on their track record.

>>734149185
>divisive aesthetic
>unfun, uninteresting extractionslop gameplay
>Tarkov-level TTK for sweats
>paid shilling on /v/
>$40
They did themselves only disservices by trying to shill it here as aggressively as they did.

>>734147924
They're too busy making massive, sweeping changes to the game no one asked for like reducing the amount of loot containers by 75%

>>734149265
>divisive aesthetic
I can't imagine what sort of fag is upset about a style that looks like neotokyo or a 1999 album cover.

>trying to shill it here
By "shill it here" you mean the same old forced "heh blast-havers" meme every faggot tries on each new tortanic yeah?

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>game looks so good bros frfr

>>734148941
>androgynous they/them characters
Nigga most of them are robots, and the ones thats resemble females are fucking hot. I know /v/ likes to post vandal’s loadout screen, but all characters have that prowling stance. Look up her MIDA skin and them look at her ass. If you’re dick don’t twitch even a little you are actually gay.

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>>734135520
Now listen to me, I actually played the game
Marathon is DEAD because bungie are retarded, nothing to do with the style or game mode. Bungie are fucking retards
>Medic can revive players after death, instantly
Turns a 3v3 into 3v6 you fucking lose vs medic squads. Why are hero powers even in a "hard core" game? Why not just let players build their fucking kit from loot parts?
>Thermal scopes attach to every weapon
Legal wall hack that shit highlights everything and isn't effected by smoke or anything
>No safe pocket no insurance
Even le ebin hardcore tarkov has insurance to recover some gear. Nobody likes losing all their shit either to thermal snipers, ratting or game bugs. You need something to keep people from just leaving the game when they enter a death spiral and having to solo rook vs 3 stacks
>No end game confirmed and 3 months season wiped
It's fucking cooked. It's over. Bungie are known to remove season content permanently even if it's paid for. You are the biggest idiot of you think they won't do the same thing again. This game will not hold a player base in this state. Get fucking real, stop dick riding

>>734149524
Marathon's art style is divisive. I've never seen a game's art style get mentioned so much in both 'I fucking hate it' and 'it's new and interesting' as with this game. I like it personally, desu It's also the only risky thing the game is doing.

>shill it here
I mean actual paid shills doing a marketing campaign on /v/. The board was lousy with threads for the last two weeks and they'd all have the same three or four shills using the same talking points, images, and words. Early on they started getting btfo so bad they'd abandon threads after losing control, make a new one to try again, get quickly btfo, then repeat. It was a fucking mess to the point the jannies even started deleting them on sight.

>>734149569
If you look at the actual faces on them they're a DEI fuckfest with every race/gender present except a white guy.

>>734135075
>coolest setting
You mean the original marathon with the aliens....... right? The original marathon right?

>>734149697
>The board was lousy with threads for the last two weeks and they'd all have the same three or four shills using the same talking points, images, and words
it's trolling from people who hate the game

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>here's your medic btw bro

>>734149785
the characters are so bad. That's the #1 thing putting me off the game

>>734149785
>robot shell can look like anything
>congolese please

>>734150167
Aren't games meant to be about gameplay?

>>734149773
No, that's a ludicrous cope right up there next to 'Embark paid people to come here and shit post about Marathon.' Not to say there isn't a lot of ironic shitposting in those threads, but there were actual shills with shill talking points using marketing images and everything else.

>>734149697
>”no white guy”
>bro is so idiotically captured by the culture war niggers that even in a cyborg game he sees race and color
you clowns have become just as retarded as the woke libshits you people criticize

>>734150292
well the devs obviously see race which is why they excluded white people

>>734150284
what talking points? having a blast, lightning in a bottle, return to form?

>>734150206
games are both interactive and visual media
the greatest gameplay in the world can't excuse dogshit visuals, if it did we'd still be talking about nidhogg 2 or rumbleverse.

>>734135075
>OP post is about the setting
>oh cool, I can finally find it how they're supposed to be telling the story since half the shills mentioned it
>nobody actually talks about the story
So it really is just some audio logs no one is bothering to pick up, isn't it?

>>734150292
I'm talking about facial structure, you midwit. Go look at the facial structures of the character models and tell me which one is the white guy.

>>734150383
In the case of the actual Marathon shills, their talking points were largely
>be sure to play in the Server Slam(TM)! (and never referring to it as anything but)
>here's why Arc is bad (including one shill who got permission to use no no words and call it 'Troon Raiders' over and over)
>public sentiment has really changed about the game!
>Bungie has a good pedigree for online shooters
>the art style is unique and interesting
And so on. And they hated having anyone bring up the art scandal or pointing out how Marathon is a hardcore PVP game for sweats (and not casual friendly).

>>734149785
OOGA BOOGA

>>734150547
To be fair, text-in-terminals you don't actually have to read is the way Marathon's story has always been told.

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>>734150593
>yes i feel very well represented by triage how could you tell

so is there some overarching story?
why do you do what you do, running through empty levels, pressing buttons and killing shit?
game just seems to lack a purpose

>>734150561
>>public sentiment has really changed about the game!
why did you fall for trolling?

I've gotten bored of BR's and extraction shooters every time because i dont wanna wander around for 5 minutes before something happens. Will this game change my mind?

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>>734150547
most of the lore is ingame and can be found by looting simple stuff or killing certain enemies, shit like that
if marathon had a storymode or wasnt an extraction shooter this game would be a lot more interesting

>>734150826
story in an extraction shooter?

>>734150841
Retard, I'm repeating the phrases the shills tried to use.

>>734150826
yes you do 'contracts' which tell the story via dialogue sections in the menus after you complete them

>>734150632
True. But I had shills promising shit like "this is the first story focused extraction shooter" and "there will be lots of secrets and even aliens again eventually" and "the story was a big focus" and it's obvious that none of that was true.
>>734150907
I keep saying that. I still cannot understand why even name this Marathon. It seems like the connections are vague at best.

>>734150907
just like breath of the wild

>>734135075
>we made a bunch of things neon green and ugly
I get that that's different from making things purple and ugly and that makes it kinda unique, but it's not that great.

>>734150909
yeah, you can kind of expect that from a huge company like bungie using an IP they sat on for like 20 years already

>>734135520
You run around collecting a bunch of shit that doesn't really do anything for you and half the time you don't even end up getting the useless shit because some camper gets you.

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>>734151027
The S'pht are literally on the splash art of the game so I'd expect them back in short order. The story is probably a big focus, you just probably have to, you know... read it. It's Bungie, that's the only way they know how to do more than a surface level narrative.

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>>734151027
>I still cannot understand why even name this Marathon

it's not even the original colony that the marathon built, that was destroyed. they just built a new one but everyone died again. So yeah it could have been any IP or a new one really

>>734150826
>>734141926
You're a freelance brain-in-a-box piloting androids to loot a failed colony for various factions who want to exercise their salvage rights / rage against the machine / uncover the mystery alien glowies.

>>734150561
i hope someone autistic and crazy enough starts jotting down all the names of the access shilling and people openly tryin to market this shit

its gettin really tired hearing shit like the games amazing and works and vibes, and its in a good spot.

>>734145654
its fun and a fresh experience

>>734150935
clearly just trolling

>>734151310
are there any games you let people talk about?

>>734151237
ok this is funny

>>734151310
Whatever shills got sent to /v/ were low quality borderline ESLs, probably from some marketing firm in Mumbai. They don't care about anything other than getting paid, like a prostitute.

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chat gpt ass responses going on.

>>734151482
oh yeah. they are resorting to chat gpt for their posts >>734151489

>>734151489
omg that's exactly how Grok talks

>>734151550
I like to imagine these are still being made by human shills who are so lazy and apathetic they're using ChatGPT instead of writing anything themselves.

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tau ceti bushman circa 2893

>>734151680
Big Floyd has revturnstd!

>>734141926
>another game that will rely on 3rd party wikis and youtube videos for the story to be told
into the trash it goes

>>734149785
I feel like when yoou're at the point of ultra utilitarian design to the point people are being marked like products that you're not going to further bother even making them look like distinct races like this. this guy's head should be a fucking cube with sensors on it
doing the ultra bleak corporate utopia while still leaving room for human diversity just seems inconsistent at best.

>>734151597
>omg

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I enjoyed listening to the first two games OST while playing. They should incorporate the originals into this more throughout the seasons in story and everything else like gear. I don't mind seeing how Marathon turns out in 1-2 years time if they actually build off of just this extraction mode.

Honestly Bungie never should've ever created Destiny in the first place, Marathon would've been the most logical next franchise to build from because it's one they already own with actual history. Why didn't they do this 15 years ago?

In another reality Marathon is a modern classic like Halo with a meaty campaign and plenty of multiplayer game modes and reasons to hold a large playerbase for awhile.

>>734151898
What if Neo Blackrock and the Immortal Empra Fink are gonna pay you a lot of shekel if you make sure that your chinesium plastic robots look like gay niggers?

>>734151898
They're being piloted by human consciousness so they need human bodies, even if just for the mental aspect.

>>734151898
The npcs you fight are straight up robots, but the SHELLs that the players use are at least partially biological. One codex dump explains the reason for them having the ability to vocalize as helpful for the Runners to immerse themselves in the body or some shit.
I don't really care as long as it leads to some neopunk clussy porn.

>>734152017
contradicted by rook being a shell fren

>>734151680
loooool

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>>734152017
If i woke up in the robo floyd shell I'm gonna freak out harder than the failed ocp robots

>>734152309
Rook is a protoype shell that can temporarily disguise himself as a uesc bot you fucking mong.

>>734152309
No I mean, that's why all of the shells have faces. Eyes. Mouths. The female ones have facsimiles of hair. The thief and vandal are fucking asian.

>>734152393
>>734152407
why don't all shells look like it if said format is viable to be one?

I like the visual design of this game, moreso in lobby/menus than the actual game though. The characters look pretty gay and their abilities are just as gay and feel like reused assets. If this shit were f2p or pve/coop I'd play it but I play too many different games to want to sink time and sweat this type of game. It's not that I'm bad at FPS or don't want to be competitive, but PvP in this type of game just isn't the type of shit I'm trying to timesink and that's clearly what the game wants from you

>>734152345
The proliferation of facecams is a blight upon the internet.
What the fuck is wrong with his nose.

>>734152348
A Robofloyd shell would be like Kane in Robocop 2 where your robot suit has a port for ingesting drugs. Just find a big supply of fent, then drift into the robo abyss.

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>>734135075
Does anyone else think Marathon is a Return to Form for Bungie?

>>734152498
why are some of the shells women and some men? i dont know man, maybe the civilian market sexbot versions sell more when you have them ethnically coded.

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>>734152671
rook has more personality about itself than any of the other shells

>>734152724
DANGER

Guys, I'm fiending for Marathon. I want that Marathon juice. I feel like I've been jacked out of the Matrix, and I want back in. I want to become a transexual alien assassin and I want it now! March 5th can't come soon enough. My silk is MAXXED.

>>734146914
maybe i'm just a schizo, but i swear "TRANS RIGHTS" flashes for a second in that sequence right after you queue up for a game

>>734151942
Marathon is too similar to Halo for them to have jumped straight from one to the other. It's effectively set in the same setting just different timelines.
Hell Destiny could arguably be in the same setting with the traveler being the moon the jarro ran off with.

What they should have done is revived the single player shooter genre with a Marathon revival and truly united all the schizo writing from all their games.

>>734152891
Destiny is a hideous game though.

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>>734152665
>story told entirely through terminal
>good, satisfying, and well made gunplay
>incredibly difficult to find objectives in sprawling maps
>random areas with 10 bad guys who can all practically two shot you
>the rifle fucking sucks

It's certainly Marathon, I'll give them that. It definitely feels like Marathon.

>>734152724
Kek

>>734149603
>Turns a 3v3 into 3v6 you fucking lose vs medic squads
it's really not that substantial of a perk mid-fight given they revive with no shield and barely any hp. a strong breeze kills them if they don't have time to heal up. if triage has time to pop off their ult and the player has time to heal up, you weren't applying enough pressure. this shit is only a factor against a sniping rat who gets pissed he gave away his position for nothing

>>734152345
apparently the TTK was higher in the alpha and they made it lower for the server slam, so all of the fanboys see low TTK as some sign that the devs listened and feel the need to defend this horseshit

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>>734153296
yup.
"its perfect because uh it just is i think"

>>734152917
I fucking hate the gameplay loop and the gaas grind in Destiny. But I think 2 had some of the greatest art direction in a shooter ever. Especially the environmental art. It's an amazing mix of sci-fi and vaguely fantasy stuff.
I mostly only know because my friends convinced me to play around release (which sucked and the art wasn't there back then) and then again when Witch Queen released, which was fucking awesome visually.

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>>734153332
>circular reasoning
i love glazer cults don't you?

>>734135075
concord 2

>>734150561
isn't destroyer white? and rook is honourary white

>>734153426
this post and gif really summarizes my thoughts and feelings right now.
thank you.

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>>734135075
>Most of the inventory is taken up by meds and ammo
Bungie has no idea what they're doing with this game I also didn't care for all the different status effects.

>>734153543
whoa is that one of the DLC shells for marathon

>>734152345
>Another HRT Raider complaining about TTK
You need to go back.

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>sir we need this shell to sound like an authority figure and experienced!
>fuck it make her sound like she smokes a pack of 40 a day

dead game walkin
the heat gauge is full

>>734135075
We get it you love Roblox.

>>734153332
personal preference doesn't need reasoning

>>734153741
their balance reasoning needs an explanation.
which is lacking from 99% of the people defending anything

I WANT MARATHON NOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW

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>>734153513
rook is this

>>734135520
I can't wait for after 3 months when every body's bank and skill points reset and you have to grind all over again.

>>734153296
I'm curious to see if the balance shifts with more gear. I didn't really see anything that pushes pvp damage during the beta.

>>734153863
I agree, because each season brings new changes, which means it won't get old!

>>734153856
>WHAT YOU ARE?

>>734153847
so does yours

>>734154034
thankfully im not debating anyone and no one makes good points. if i was to sit here and argue with every single person you would just tire me out and not care.
which is what you want in the end. so eat shit

GIVE ME THE FUCKING GAME NOWWWWWWWWWW

>>734135520
This genre would work if both the progression and mid-match objectives were extremely involved/interesting. As it stands, these extraction games are basically designed with lower standards than even your average TDM arena shooter. There's nothing to fucking do. There's barely anything to strive for. Wow, 2% more max stamina and better shields and a higher DPS gun. Whoopty fucking do, dude. Shit is boring and low effort.

GOD GIVE ME THE GAME OHHHH GODODDD HGOD HELP ME AND GIVE M ETEHE GAMEMMMMMMMM

>>734138240
This explains the storyline.

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>>734154227
>go home casual/not for you/git gud/ok unc/he/him/ noted and ignored/bungie can do no wrong/arc baby/xhe/xhim/skill issue

>>734140739
Cargo hunters
Road to vostok

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>>734152724
I wonder how things would go if they went the Haydee route and modeled Shells after pornstars or celebrities.

>>734135075
The fuck are you talking about? This game is hideous to look at and completely lame.

>>734153852
Honestly same, and not in the ironic shilling type of way. I haven’t played a PvP this good in a while. Last one I truly enjoyed was TLOU factions. This game kinda brought me back to those times. The aesthetic and music are also enthralling.

>>734135520
I think the genre works for Arc Raiders because it's slow and cinematic. It's feels weighty and it's enjoyable to look at and listen to even during the downtime. The TTK is high and other players are loud and slow so if a fight is about to be put upon you there's usually a chance to reposition, fight back, de-escalate etc

When I hop on Marathon and some dude double jump boost slides 50 feet and drills me in 0.5 seconds it just makes me wish I was playing COD team deathmatch. I can't imagine how must worse it would feel if I was actually invested and had valuable loot on me

>>734140739
Incursion: Red River

>>734154581
post good-looking games

>>734154598
Arc Raiders is genuinely the TLOU factions of this genre. If you haven't played it jump ship now

>TTK is low

99% of kills you see is people with no kits. Free kits have no shield. That's who you see getting 2 shot. Once you level your factions you can buy shields right out the shop.

Game needs to just do better explaining the missions and the shop and vault. I love the retro 2000 aesthetic.

>>734154614

I ALWAYS push people. 99% of people never push they just camp their spots waiting on you. People are whining the game is too slow and sliding is useless. Arc is just 3rd person peeking so its pretty safe. These are just two different types of games honestly. Theres no reason to be friendly in Marathon. I commend Arc Raiders for tying to make a hugbox and hey godspeed but that just aint for me.

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>>734135075
>ugly, texture-less maps and designs
>stupid and cringy Fortnite x Apex characters
>"coolest setting"

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>>734138240
it's over

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>>734154670
>>734154839

>>734140739
Witchfire. Which is unironically amazing.

When i saw all the faction cinematics i knew i need this shit to survive cause art direction this good only comes out of AAA once in a blue moon

>>734152407
vandal isnt fucking asian you retarded gook

>>734140739
theres literally a growing list of them that all look x10 better than Marathon

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>>734135075
I really like visuals and I'm not against the genre if gunplay is done well. What really scares me is bungie themselves. I played Destiny 2 since it had no content at all and let me tell you - bungie is arguably the most evil company in the gaming industry. they are ok with doing pure illegal stuff in player's face and they always get away with it. I just know 100% that even if the game is good at the release they will ruin it within 1-2 months. the fact that game might be good makes it all sadder. bungie always had very strong design team and it is very sad that talented people are getting fucked by retarded bungie bosses

>>734155353
>bungie is arguably the most evil company in the gaming industry. they are ok with doing pure illegal stuff in player's face and they always get away with it.
got any examples? not doubting they'd done shit since i've heard other people say other things, but i skipped destiny 1 & 2 and haven't touched anything bungie since they were still running halo

i dont get the pvp worship Bungie gets. Destiny 2 had one of the worst pvp modes ive ever seen.
Insanely dogshit
I swear most pvpers are actual morons

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>>734135075
This has mainstream written all over it I can't wait to heal with my hamburger snoylent.

>>734155030
i will be all over this when it comes out of early access

i like that model for game developers but i hate it as a gamer.

Arc Raiders has 5 great maps, each very different from each other.
Marathon has two maps that look like exact copies of each other, one unknown map, and the marathon map which will be pretty hard to get into.

This game is going to need to survive off one good map that most people wont even play on. Lmao.

>>734155835
its like arc raiders coming out with only the Dam and Stella Montis. noob map and a fuckin ffa pvp fuckfest

>>734155470
They removed paid content (3 DLCs) from the game without any compensation or any good reason at all. These DLCs were quite expensive on the release and they sell them in different tiers, so not only you were robbed of the game content you paid for, you might've been robbed from special rewards you paid extra for. Destiny 2 is not MMO with clear subscription-based contract between publisher and the user, it is a single player game with multiplayer elements. Imagine fromsoftware just deleting shadow of the erdtree one day, no refunds, no reason, no sorry.

Also one of the executives once went on stage and publicly said that they intentionally make shitty content because if they made good content it would raise player's expectations and make their profits smaller.

In terms of writing/social impact bungie is probably one of the most pozzed studios ever. Imagine life is strange level of millennial hipster neo liberalism and multiply it by infinity - this is bungie.

>>734155929
one of their devs once said "they dont want those kind of players" in their games. Youd think this was referring to hackers or griefers etc. No this was hostility to people that just wanted to solo queue and play with pugs for strikes and raids and enjoy the content they paid for.
They have some sort of reverse logic belief that solo players are toxic.

>>734135520
GaaS is ALWAYS shit.

>>734138240
>go tranny
>instead of picking a cool or slutty name choose Jessica instead.
These retards don't even have good taste to be faggots.

>>734155835
I actually had no problem telling the maps apart after only a couple rounds, the compounds all have very different layouts even if some of the rooms in each of them are identical

>>734156443
they are all colour coded, colour blind people got filtered hard
Also faggots afraid of moths

>be struggling indie triple A studio with funds of 500 trillion dollars
>shart out a game that looks worse than
>actual indie devs working on a budget

>>734135520
its a hero shooter team pvp. Possibly the most aids genre in the history of gaming.
Like literal acidic aids in the eyeballs

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>>734155470
dev response when titan mains asked for a crumb of FUN instead of "haha me punch hard" *gets nerfed*
this dude is now working on marathon and destroyer is a 1:1 of titan

>>734141926
Really interested to see what the Marathon is like inside.

>>734149265
you forgot
>Kernel level spyware "anti-cheat"

seriously, anyone installing this shit on your computers deserve to get hacked or some hardware damage.

>>734149785
looks like that time-god nigger from mortal kombat with a facepaint.

>>734154839
>>734155000
wow what an aesthetic

>>734157124
Is there a major multiplayer FPS that doesn't do this kernel level shit? I feel like all of the major ones seem to have it because cheating is just so easy and widespread and people won't spend on MTX in a game where they're getting wall hacked and aim botted 24/7.

>>734156846
Destroyer feels like shit outside of his mobility. The slow ass rockets are only good for clumps of bulletsponge bots and the shield is retarded.
Good to know they will likely neuter him in the future.

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>>734153148
Retards like you will be the first to complain "omg triage op" when squads of thermal decked instant revives start curb stomping lobbies. You push into triage he emps your dumb ass and you die. You chase a revived player the triage guns your dumb ass down with weapon boost.
Enjoy 10k players and f2p by the end of the year, assuming Sony is too far in the hole to pull the plug on this turd

>>734135075
It's actually a fun genre when it's ARC Raiders
this game failed to innovate orat least follow in Arc's stead.

why did they have to make the medic a nigger seriously?
You think thats bad check out the early look they gave him, literally just a black face actual nigger face.
These people cannot help themselves they had to give a robot a nigger brown face.
Its annoying to that they keep trying to push niggers as cyberpunk or scifi when niggers cant even read and no nigger country has even an automotive industry because they are illiterate low iq savages.

>>734157429
It reminds me more of Hunt Showdown than Arc.

>>734157323
>point out you can easily stop cheaters by just returning private lobbies
>zoomer tards in disbelief and dont know what that is.

>>734149603
Those are some really good points, especially
>Bungie are known to remove season content permanently even if it's paid for
If they are going to do wipes every three month and erasing seasonal content - yeah, they are done. Even shit like fallout 76 brought back seasonal content for purchase in their cash shop, and did not dare to remove stuff players got beforehand (unless duped/cheated).

>>734158017
>private lobbies
Don't devs hate this because it lets people cheat to get MTX currencies or skins or something, so they (the devs) have to be the only server authority?

>>734150195
>why them robots dont look like roman statues?!

>>734158121
thats how bungie forced people to buy expansions.
As well as sunseting old content, they lock you out of content like certain game modes that required all the latest expansions.
They would add invincible enemies you can only kill with the latest expansion.
And this would start sometimes practically as soon as the current expansion was out they were already onto the pre-release for the next expansion

>>734135075
>Synthetik aesthetic but made lame and gay
Yawn, pass.

>>734158361
zero aesthetic sense

>>734157327
Even his mobility feels bad, I don't think his improved sprint is that much faster than vandal's regular sprint, if it even is at all, and the jet boots are certainly worse than vandal's slide unless you don't have even the foot needed to get the running start for it I suppose.

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>>734150547
Time for me to upload some shit then.
There are codex entries. There are audiologs. There are entries that are both.

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>>734153296
The TTK is perfect, fuck off