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>>734141181
not much since i just play 6+ year old games, play vns and emulate.

>>734141181
It's less about performance and more about freedom.

>>734141181
Did it used to be free?

only like 20% of 4chan users use desktops to browse the site.

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>>734141480
You jest surely, please

>>734141375
Flippity bippity

>>734141541
lemme see if I can find the info for you. I saw it in some other post (could be bullshit, who knows)

>>734141181
I got NS2. I'm okay waiting another 7-8 years if that's what it takes to get a good PC at great prices

>>734141181
I'll pay whatever

>>734141181
Where is this narrative coming from that PC gaming is a cheap or affordable hobby? AI hate is becoming so delusional it’s inventing whole narratives to be upset over. PC gaming has always been the most prohibitively expensive way to play games.

>Hachman
Gee, I wonder.

Don’t want or need one but sucks for those that do

>>734141541
>>734141541
https://www.semrush.com/website/4chan.org/overview/

in the Website Traffic by Country

You mean interpolated frames upscaled from 540p? I'm good.

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>>734141843
God. Thanks for sharing that.

>>734141181
Between my rig, ultrawide monitor, desk and chair. I've probably spent 3 to 4 grand in 2024 money. For 120 fps on a 5120×1440 monitor that I spend hours a day on, I'd say it is worth it.

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I boughted an
>i3-12100
>16GB DDR4
>2TB SSD
>RX 6600

For $400 last October

>>734141843
i didn't realize there were so many germans here

>>734141743
It never was prohibitely expensive, it was $1000 for a midrange build that would last you 5+ years. Now it's $1000 for a midrange GPU that can't even run modern games at a consistent 1440p60 without retarded blur generation

>>734141375
This but 16+ and emulate

>>734142271
a midrange build years ago also couldn't run games at a consistent 1440p60 tho

>>734141181
lmao imagine being a bad person and believing in the shit on the floor false king of the "gods" jesus or any religion
look at the world shit on the floor has built on the extreme levels of evil of all npcs
who are literally his avatars
adonai is not a god he is a terroristic parasitic child rapist who made a false 3d universe to torment
fuck you shit on the floor i am insulting you with impunity because i am the real god not you

>>734142363
Yes, it could. 4k60 was widespread until everyone decided to ruin everything for (((some reason))).

>>734141181
None. Once it was determined by capitalists earlier this decade that all FPS games going forward would be made for aim assist I stopped buying. I used to spendhundreds a year.

Glad I got out before the AI grift. Can't imagine spending thousands to play capitalist slop. Humiliation ritual.

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>>734141181
Unfortunately I'm cursed when it comes to these things because everytime I wanna upgrade (usually to the bare minimum standard) there's always some crisis, whether that's covid, economic downturn, bitcoin mining shit, or the AI shortages
Probably $500 for basic 1080p 60

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>>734142449
4K has never been widespread

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do I get this?

Doing a rough calculation of the price;

RTX 5080 is around $1,300-1,400.
Ryzen 9 9900x ~$400
Motherboard ~$250-300
Ram (before price hikes) = $150, now >$300.
Case ~$120-150
2TB NVMe ~$200

Total to build something similar = $2,300 BEFORE the RAM price hikes Seems like a good deal to me, should I jump on it?

Already have a keyboard / mouse but will be nice to have new ones.

>>734142556
4k60 was widescreen on high end cards, as it should be. Now you need to upscale, you need garbled interpolated frames.

>>734142556
>tf still on 1080p
i'll stay with it until my monitor dies

>>734141743
There was a time where you could build a midrange PC for $500 then steal every videogame.
Even now, in the height of this bullshit, gaming is still a cheap hobby. $2000 for a good PC and $50 per game? In terms of hobbies thats nothing. My other hobby is target shooting and it costs me about 50c per trigger squeeze. I have a friend who likes to fly light aircraft and the bills for that are just fucking nuts.

>>734141181
>if you want performance you have to pay for it

oh, did something change? It hasn't always been this way?

>>734142271
Dude you’re talking about spending $1000 USD on a device that plays video games. The GameCube was $99, the ps3 was $500. A grand or more is prohibitively expensive.

>>734142654
you could build your own and save on the mobo and cpu, you don't need a good cpu for most games

>>734141181
It's 2026.
If you have a current generation PS/Xbox or a gaming desktop featuring 2020 or newer components, you won't *need* anything else for years to coom
Stop being a consoomer, just play on a small 1080p display and be happy

>>734142654
Is the ram DDR5, is the SSD a brand you recognize, have they cheaped out on the PSU; mobo or CPU cooler?

That does seem like an okay deal. but with prebuilts it always feels like they've cut a corner just as a sneaky fuck you.

>>734141181
I gave up and just emulate ps2 and GameCube games on my phone.

>>734141181
It's already been covered, but I'll reiterate that all my favorite games were released 26 years ago or more so "more performance" is pretty low on my list of needs. I don't mind paying a little bit for it just in case I run into the odd new game that piques my dick, but if you're talking about doubling or tripling of prices you can straight get fucked. Real good games run on a Pentium.

The actual losers in this scenario are devs of games that require such extra power. They're the ones that have to eat the bill.

>>734141181
>if you want performance, you have to pay for it
cant you just download more RAM?

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>>734142852
Even if I got a cheaper CPU I don't think it's gonna be possible to build something much cheaper right now. I also forgot to add in the price I'd have to pay for a PSU and CPU cooler which would add a couple hundred dollars to the price I already calculated to build it myself.

>>734143032
Doesn't say what brand the SSD is, or the ram but it's DDR5 at least.

My current build is a 3080 with ddr4 and an i9 10850k, pic related.

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>>734141843
>Germany 3.73M

>america 36.97M
what in the fuck. why are there so many burgers here

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>>734141843
I'm literally surrounded by faggot phoneposters
lol

>>734143215
>why are there so many burgers here
american website...

>>734141843
So all our rajesh are indian-amnericans

>>734143249
>I keep actively hanging out with phone posters every day, how does this keep happening to me?
hurr durr

>>734142689
same, fren
i just bought a new 1080p monitor last year

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>>734141181
Yeah? Watch this.
*pirates performance*

>>734141181
About $20 for a game not made by streetshitters.

>>734143215
>>Germany 3.73M
WAS? Nein Alter this is insane

>>734143315
funny joke

>>734142654
>2300$ PC to match a 600$ PS5 pro
Lmaooooo

>>734141181
These days $2,500 I guess? I think if my total started creeping past $3,000 I might start reconsidering. It's not really an impactful purchase in adulthood, but I still get iffy about putting down that kind of money on frivolous purchases, even if it's only one every five years or so.

>>734141181
The question is not if I'm willing to spend to get the framerates
the question is whether current gen development is willing to optimize so that I can get the framerates on my mid tier PC or not.
I'm not going to chase after framerate out of my own wallet anymore, they proved it's a losing game by giving less and less of a shit about optimizing ever since "good" PC:s became the standard.

>>734142271
>>734142747
It's not that ~$500 used to get you a midrange pc and now it doesn't. The processors and the gpus and ram(used to) and hdd/sdd that you can buy at ~$500 are still incredibly powerful machines that will allow you emulate pretty much every console except all ps3 games and do all kinds of cool shit that you couldn't do before.
The problem is that ALL big devs themselves have become pants on head retarded and stopped optimising their games. If you don't give a single fuck about these goyslop- press up and listen to retarded dialogue- "games", ~$500(before the ram spike) would give you an incredible machine that could run older games (ps4) at 60fps/1080p with cool temps at high settings and older at even higher res and framerstes if you want. So with just 500 bucks you could play most of the games ever made with great performance while if you bought a non jailbroken console you would be stuck with the games they had the mercy of even allowing you to buy.
PC is still an incredibly good deal if you managed go get one before the ram and ssd shortage as oposed to a modern cucked console if you are actually interested in games rather than just participating in "the current thing" culture.

>>734144457
A PS5 pro can't run factorio

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>>734141843
>Mobile: 81%

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I know this frame doesn't exist. I know that when I put it in my monitor; the GPU is telling my brain that it is 1440p, and 60 FPS. After five years.. you know what I realize? DLSS is bliss.

Hopefully I'll be able to get at least 60 FPS in Spire 2.

>>734145613
If a game is easy enough to be played with the incredible amount of input lag that fake frames generate, then it's easy enough to be played at real 30 fps anyway so why even bother with dlss.
Modern devs don't even make badass games where turning off vsync means victory or defeat so who why even give a shit?
Even MonHun Wilds is a babby game so at this point why even play modern slop.
Think about this.

The right time to buy a PC, if you were holding out, was in December when shortages were forecast. You knew it wouldn't get better.

>>734145978
it's basically all bullshit. if no one has the means to interface with the AI the AI is worthless. it will become cheap much quicker than you think.

>>734141181
>you have to pay for it
damn, I missed out on FREE PC's???

>>734145978
Or you can still buy a cheap prebuilt that they had in store before the shortages.
It's only the top of the line marks that got cucked. And if you have enough money to throw around on a 3k PC, what's 4k for you? But as I said before in this thread, what's the point in playing shitty modern games in 4k/120 fps anyway because they are made for braindead normies, anyway.

>first it was the hdd shortages when a tsunami flooded most of the east asian factories in 2010 that produce the vast majority of that stuff
>then a couple years later gpu prices hiked for the rest of the decade due to crypto
>then ddr5 production did not meet expected quantities and gpu and console production went down with it
>now storage and ram again
then storage of any kind and ram again
fuck this gay earth

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>>734141181
>willing to pay for their desired frame rates?
I'm willing to pay to price out thirdies

>>734141181
I think 1200-1500 bucks (pre storage / ram hike)
>Free online
>Free games
>Local AI
>Multi purpose device
>ADblock
>Mods
>Fan games
>Piracy
>Emulation
>Upgradability
>Used market
The list goes on and on. A console just isn't worth anymore. I would even be happy with a PC from 2021.

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bro, just download some ram

>>734145494
I do most of my browsing at work, and I'm not about to do it on the company hardware.

>>734141181
About 4k, maybe 5k.
PC is always worth it.

>>734141541
why do you think it's so awful around here

>>734141743

ZOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM

>>734141181
Eh, I'm willing to fork out a hundred bucks for 16GB of extra RAM, but that's an unnecessary bonus - let me go to the dentist first, then I'll treat the old boy to a nice stick. Video is perfect, monitor a bit small, but other than that nowhere in the "PC master race" did it say 'cheap'

>>734143553
>actively hanging out with phone posters
We were here first.

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>>734141181
saar it is worth it, ai make everything feel like stone age

>>734141181
I completely agree with that article, but the title is really funny to me. "If you want a good PC you have to buy a good PC." Like no shit?

>>734141181
>most played on Next fes recommended requirements:
>Marathon: rtx2060
>Burglin' Gnomes: GTX 1070
>Windrose: rtx 3080
>Far Far West: rtx 2060 out of these this is the only one I'm excited for
>Outbound: rtx3060
yeah, I don't think low spec PC players will have a shortage of games.

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>>734141181
>tfw specs are decent enough, but really need an SSD upgrade
Waitfags... I'm sorry for laughing at you. I can feel some of your pain.

>>734148146
Damn, what's the deal with Windrose?

>>734141181
>you have to buy the $800 ram sticks to play the unoptimized turds shat out by indians
No I dont.

>>734148146
>>734148320
>minimum specs GTX 1080Ti/RX 6800
What the fuck? It's just some pirate survival game.

I been saying this for years but I still think we have reached a point where games don't need to get any better graphics wise. Game worlds are way more focused on stylized settings over photo realistic. You don't need a million sparks and particles for every in game action.
Like lock it down and focus on game play design and we should, in theory, be fine with modern hardware for a very long time. Unless one is pushing for 4k with high frame rates of course. Overwatch looks great and it's from 2016. More games are going for a retro look anyways.
Arc looks good. Marathon is weird but it's looks visually interesting. I just don't think we need a dozen layers of Inception like light reflections for a character walking past a store window and your frame dump into the gutter.

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>>734141375
/thread

>>734147840
But you never left, you love phone posters that much.

>>734148909
you're not wrong
I have realistic graphic fatigue, I prefer stylized with good animation and gameplay any day.

>>734141181
My PC is pretty new and new fabs are built all over the place. It's gonna be fine.
>nooooooo It's totally different this time, it's over
>t. my age starts with 1

>>734150735
You can still pick up mid range builds for fair prices but you have to actually physically go out in rl to find them.
Anything online gets gobbled up by "side hustle" faggots.

>>734148248
Poor anon, something that'll last you for 10+ years now costs $30 more. That's like 4 cent per week.

>>734148146
>low spec

>>734150838
More like a hundred bucks. Not out of reach, but I still feel like a sucker.

>>734151976
>rtx 2060 isn't low spec

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>>734141181
>if you want performance you have to pay for it
This has literally been the status quo of PC gaming for the last 25-30 years. Why in the fuck is this now headline worthy and reaction worthy?

>>734152178
this is 4chan, you're talking to brazilians who can't afford anything better than a $50 used 1060

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>>734141181
We need a final solution to the Sumerian demon problem.
https://x.com/Holden_Culotta/status/2027887416678170729

Name one good game released since 2014
Hard mode: no bloodborne

Performance was always expensive. Today is much cheaper since once you stop buying woke crap, there will be no need to update for next ~5 years anyway

>>734141743
Couple of years ago you could buy a good gaming PC for 500-600 dollars. Now a certain group of people ensured this is not possible.

>>734153446
Monster Hunter Rise.

>>734153492
>Couple of years ago you could buy a good gaming PC for 500-600 dollars.
No you could not. Describe the specs of the gaming PC that cost 500-600 dollars a few years ago, and tell me for how long this PC remained good. You can't.

Whenever there's a discussion graphics or the state of gaming, anons should be obligated to attach their spec sheet and country of origin to their posts. I promise you that 90% of the "uhh gaming went to shit in [X] year and games are so unoptimized now" comes from brazilian GTX760 users.

>>734153609
You could buy a 2060 or AMD equivalent for 200 dollars then a decent Ryzen CPU for 100 dollars, then all the other parts could be found on the 50 dollar range each. I paid 100 dollars for a 1 TB SSD and I felt like it was too expensive, that shit dropped to like 50 bucks before the AI demon bubble.

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>>734141181
Not much at all. I recently beat Silent Hill 2 Remake on a laptop with 1GB of VRAM. It ran at like 12fps with everything cranked to lowest settings. I thought the mirror room cutscene was going to make it spontaneously combust.

>>734154013
>You could buy a 2060 or AMD equivalent for 200 dollars then a decent Ryzen CPU for 100 dollars
A 2060 or AMD equivalent was 350 dollars MSRP at launch, and took until the 4000 series years later to fall down. A 100 dollar CPU at the time of 2060's release was the Ryzen 3300X which is definitely not a good processor lol. The 3600 was a solid processor at the time but it cost 200 bucks. So that's already 550 bucks spent out of your 500-600 budget, and we didn't even get a motherboard + RAM + HDDs + SSDs + monitor + peripherals + PSU yet.

>>734153781
>hasn't done it himself

>>734154320
Because I didn't make those claims, and because when I post the specs of my 4k monitor and 16gb vram card I know you'll just call it fake.

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>>734141843
>Brazil: 90% mobile
Grim.

>>734153781
>anons should be obligated to attach their spec sheet and country of origin
>b-but not me.

>>734154667
Put on your glasses and re-read the post, from the beginning this time.

>>734142227
There aren't

>>734154745
>>734153781
>Whenever there's a discussion graphics or the state of gaming,
which this thread is.
>anons should be obligated to attach their spec sheet and country of origin to their posts.
which you haven't done despite saying anons should be "obligated" to do in threads of this type.

>>734155037
Good first try. Now re-read it one more time, this time from the beginning.

>>734154858
Lügenpresse

>>734155241
Still not seeing your specs, you hypocrite shithead.

>>734141181
Nothing because I'm not a poor fag and I got a ps5 pro baybeeeeee!

>>734141181
My 3060 faces such challenges as emulated PS1 games and emulated PSP games, maybe some indie games here and there.

She only ever seems some use when I generate slop or throw a curveball like Nioh 3 in there so she can sweat some bullets and feel the thrill of turning on her fans.

>>734141843
>Keep pointing out for years why 4chan keeps getting worse
>Nahhh nahhh it's the Jews making 4chan bad!!