it isn't really good, but it's very cozy

The black sheep of the classic FF games, that gets unjustly hated because of some e-celeb.
Does a lot of things weird, does some things bad, but also does a lot of things very right. Great world, great music, great exploration, Squall is a great main character, and very fledxible mechanics.

>>734152008
>still blaming spoony

>>734151706
All FF remasters are shit. Literally all of rhem. Just play the originals.

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>>734151706
i love it

>>734151706
It's sword art online, but worse

>>734151706
they didnt remaster shit
backgrounds are worse

>>734151706
Yeah its great. You can adopt any playstyle you want and its all viable.

>>734152008
>that gets unjustly hated because of some e-celeb
There's a surprising amount of games that happens to. I immediately thought of Egoraptor and his shitty Ocarina of Time review.

>>734151706
the remaster? no
the game itself? not really

ff8 is the only game that actually needed a remake, it has a lot of really cool ideas but they're all either done horribly, not developed at all, or needed to get cut. it's the peak game to cause people 5-10-15 years later to go "wow it's awesome because of that 1 scene I remember and not the other 29 hours of bullshit"

>>734151706
Yup. Anything else?

>>734152138
This

FF8 had a god tier soundtrack. Just don't abuse the junction system like a lil bitch and you'll have a great time. Lots of side quests and mini games, memorable plot points. Man they were cooking with FF7-10, then it all went to shit with everything going online.

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>>734151706
These are the only good ones, the rest don't matter

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>>734151706
What's the difference? I bought the Remastered when it was on Sale a while ago, but I have fond memories of playing the original.

I know they 'improved' character models but did they make any changes to story, quests, combat, action, anything like that?
If they did I'll go with the original.
(Yes I know it's still Steam version and not the REAL og but I don't have access to a PS1 right now)

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>>734153832
>FF13

>>734153832
>FF13
nice meme

>>734154196
had the end the image in bait

>>734152138
>just play a shittier version
Can you stop being contrarian for two seconds and develop an actual personality?

>>734154031
original has 15fps during battle with smooth 60fps menus (great for renzokuken)
"remaster" has 15fps battle AND 15fps menus, very shit for renzokuken

What type of sex was Seifer having with Rinoa?

>>734155495
The type of sex that you'll never get in your life.

>>734151706
>remastered
no

>>734152008
It is justly hated for having an utterly dogshit combat system. Disc 1 is top tier but literally everything that comes forward is garbage.

>>734155495
Cid popped her cherry, and Seifer her anal cherry. Poor Squall.

>>734155836
>can't just spam spells
>bad
You are why everything is casual and covered in yellow paint.

>>734151706
Better than 7 in my opinion

>>734157036
Draw isn't even the biggest problem with the game. That'd be Junction making literally everything else obsolete, or every character being basically identical, or the retarded level scaling that incentivizes you to do shit like card enemies to never gain a level, or the perfectly fine Limit Break mechanic being reworked into a worse version for no reason, or combat being basically deterministic with how much fucking menus you have to fiddle with, the fact that your GFs, which are basically your equipment slots, are often missable if you don't Draw every enemy to exhaustion, etc etc etc.

>>734157276
>leveling
Imaginary issue imposed by the same breed of retard who refuses to level up in Oblivion. Learn how to play the game and you won't have problems.

>>734151706
Best Final Fantasy! 7 would bebest but it has a nogger as a main character, plus the chibi artstyle looks stupid

No but it's kind of batshit insane so I recommend for that reason alone

>>734157386
fuck off, retard. level scaling in a JRPG literally adds nothing to the fucking game and merely introduces several ways to make it miserable to play. every other FF title plays better by not having it.

>>734157579
>gameplay actually exists and this is bad somehow
>I NEED 90% of the map to be level 1 encounters I can beat in less time than the intro animation and loading screen takes to complete
Learn how to play the game.

>>734157579
level scaling doesn't change much
in normal RPG : you progress, ennemies have more HP, you do more damage
with level scaling : you progress, ennemies have more HP, you do more damage

ff8 is interesting because it has a secret alternate battle system where you completely replace the normal ff system with the card game.

>>734157727
Why on earth should I go back to the starter area that I beat back then with a wooden sword and find out the monsters have inexplicably octupled in strength?
>>734157941
So, again, the mechanic is pointless! All it does is introduce more ways to screw yourself over.

>>734158057
>why isn't everything streamlined, casual, and super duper easy
>why do I have to actually engage with game mechanics
/v/ - videogames

>>734151706
Original is fun. I wouldn't play a remaster.

>>734153832
Replace FF9 with FF12

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>>734151706
It's awesome! It's one my favorites.

>>734158115
Level scaling doesn't actually introduce any ways to "engage with game mechanics." It just introduces new ways to trivialize the game (not leveling). In fact, it makes you engage with the game LESS, because it's more favorable to keep enemy levels low, meaning you see less of thenmost complex AI they get with higher levels.

>>734158057
level scaling is for retards who run from every fight and then complain that mandatory fights are too hard. whenever a game has some retarded mechanic you can safely assume it's because of idiots in focus test groups who refused to engage with the game like a normal person.

>>734158474
Running from every fight will actively help you in FF8 because enemies outpace the stat growth you get with levels. The optimal path is to kill as little enemies as possible and only get stats from Junction.

>>734158324
this is retarded and only idiots who didn't play the game parrot this.
if my 10 year old self could beat it while grinding the hell out of levels in the training center early on then what the fuck is your excuse

>>734158691
>oh but I could beat it!!!
I don't fucking care you retard. It doesn't matter if it's beatable. It sucks to play and is retarded for a JRPG to make the game harder for you for daring to defeat enemies. It actively disincentivizes you from ENGAGING IN COMBAT. It is objectively a terrible mechanic that adds nothing to the game.

>>734158812
>>734158324
You just want a game where you can not actually play the fucking thing beyond walking between story events. That's all you're saying. Without level scaling, you still get random encounter battles, but now you're wasting time sitting through the loading screen and intro for a fight that takes 3 seconds to finish while giving you nothing in return.

>>734158812
>make the game harder for you for daring to defeat enemies.
it doesnt: when you level up you do more damage, the difficulty doesn't change. What you're saying is "it sucks that the game doesn't get way easier when I overgrind"

>>734155841
Robin williams would never do that to squall.

Besides Rinoa had a dog. You just know.

i really love it. so much freedom to dick around with how you play, you basically design your own difficulty curve and it's never the same game twice.

>>734159712
>it doesnt: when you level up you do more damage, the difficulty doesn't change
Did you even play this game? Enemies flat out improve at a higher rate than you. A level 5 character can take on a level 5 enemy rather easily, but a level 30 character will have a lot of trouble defeating a level 30 enemy. Enemies also see a huge jump in strength at levels 10 and 30. you don't know what you're talking about.

Leveling up also does very little to increase your stats. The game was designed with junctioning in mind, so you're not going to get much stronger when you raise a level, because most of the stat growth is keyed to Guardian Forces that increase your stats when you level-up with one equipped.

>>734151706
It's alright.
It has a lot of problems in terms of story, but also some really neat moments.
Ganeplay can be quite abuseable, but it has some neat instant-gratification with how you increase your power.

I guess it's in the top 10 among final fantasy games for me, but wouldn't be in my top 100 games in general.

If you've already enjoyed some other final fantasies, you can give it a go.

>>734152942
>ff8 is the only game that actually needed a remake, it has a lot of really cool ideas but they're all either done horribly,
I don't want a remake, but I agree it has some cool ideas and they should steal ideas from ff8 when they make a new game.

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>>734151706
Every Final Fantasy is good. Yes, even the bad ones, cause those are still better than any other JRPG.
Only exception would be 7R so far. We don't know since the story isn't complete yet

>>734160525
>skill issue

>>734159421
that doesn't make sense since in order to get strong enough to beat enemies in 3 seconds you would have to spend a lot of time grinding, which is the opposite of just walking between story events.