>>736966728
>romance options
That's the problem. There shouldn't be "romance" in games, it's so gay and pointless.

>>736966728
I will never understand why that's a priority to people. I spent hundreds of hours on crpgs growing up and never gave a shit.

>>736966728
What's so bad about Camellia?

>>736966728
buy an ad unknown developer

>>736966728
Pic unrelated
>Kibellah
>Cassia
>Heinrix

>>736966908
There isn't a single thing good about her

>>736966908
Besides the cuckoldry?

>>736966728
Your life

Rogue Trader sucks because you can't date the cutest character in the game

>>736966908
SHE IS A FUCKING HELF

>>736966898
It was fun and fresh in BG2 but since then, with it's codification as a requirement for RPGs it's just become dreary box ticking and waifuism

>>736966728
Anon, I really hope you're a paid Russian intelligence shitposter, and you haven't just been autistically posting about a game developer 'cucking' you since 2018 because of some undiagnosed mental illness.

>>736967134
>cuckoldry out of nowhere

>>736966872
>>736966898
Zoomid. Fucking is an integral part of life (for a whole host of reasons), any game where you are to inhabit a character should axiomatically include fucking.

>>736966728
Obsidian

>>736966728
why are you playing a crpg for the romance though?

>>736967235
yeah pillars 2 had a gay furry encounter in the first 5 minutes, thanks homosexuals

>>736966728
I had a threesome with the exotic twin sisters, impregnated the succubus at least twice and deflowered the pure mutant fish
Sounds like a skill issue on your part

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>>736966728
It has good options OP, a wide array of terrible and fucked up people.
Kingmaker is all about a bunch of losers and outcasts making their own kingdom with blackjack and hookers, which is why remaining virginal is required for the true ending. You shouldn't want to fuck any of these people.

WotR, in the meantime, is about a bunch of evil shits being thrown at more evil shit with the hope there will be less evil shit by the end of it. Best you can do in this scenario is a prissy gay black man. So why not aim for the worst instead, and date Cam?

Rogue Trader as well gives you an array of degenerates and dysgenics interspersed among autistic uptights. In a universe of extremes, there is no hope of a balanced relationship with an equal.

Regardless, Owlcat companions are deeply flawed people who are ultimately pretty fun in narrative sense, even if it's because they're a specific kind of retarded or evil. Overall, they're blatantly making fun of the concept of having a romance option in such a game at all, and making fun of you for falling for it. Wanting 'romance options' in an RPG is a general sign of low cultural literacy, and Persona 4 and its consequences have been a disaster to the medium. Go play Rance or a BL visual novel or something if that's what you want. Do NOT go replay mass effect for the 4th time, because it doesn't even do what you want very well at all. You are just simultaneously oversocialized, leading you to believe this kind of thing is required, and also starved for genuine human interaction. But I don't blame you, because there are many like you, and you are being used by a political agenda.

>>736967104
I remember chatting up aerie but otherwise being more engaged in the adventure.
>>736967206
I'm far older than you. Get your romance from real life or books or shows or something. Games will never be good at it, especially now that everyone is player sexual.

>>736966728
>Kibellah
>Cassia
Nah
>>736966908
there are literal demons more sympathetic than that insane piece of shit

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>>736966728
Owlcat have the incel version of the dragon age fandom

>>736966728
Octavia is hot though.

>>736967353
WotR only has four evil companions, one of them might as well not count and the other is perfectly reasonable

>>736967104
Feature bloat, but it seems like they hire more people for the horrible e-dating scenarios than the actual game at this point and they're still fever dream nonsense. Here's a question, why aren't gays normal

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>>736967454
You know what I mean. They're dregs, in a different sense than Kingmaker companions. Kingmaker companions do not belong into society for one reason or another, while Wrath of the Righteous companions are people society would be better without. Expendable. Sewer mutants, street thieves, corrupt nobles.

>>736967509
romance barely tales 1% of the game

>>736966728
the only bad romance options in rt are the two xenos

>>736967575
Sounds like you're trying to bring everyone down to the level of your waifu

>>736967360
>Get your romance from real life or books or shows or something.
>Get your romance from media, not media, media will never be good at it
You might have just won the dumbest post of the day award anon.

>>736967579
Are you sure? It's like HR for women and gays, especially the mocappers and animators. Basically just positions created in gaming so industry flunkies from streaming/wrtiting can get jobs. Hell the director of obsidian's games is an interracial romance writer married to a stinky pajeet

Old BioWare at least made romances cute and appealing.
NuBioWare made romances ugly.
OwlCat is just cuck romances.

>>736966728
>Arue openly admits to being a voyeur because she diesn't understand how humans can have mutually benefecial relationships
Her past was obvious but I didn't realize she was putting herself in the cuck chair when other people were entirely unaware.
Daeran is honestly pretty cool if you're playing a female KC.

>>736967734
bro, have you ever played an Owlcat game? romance is barely there, most of the companion content is on their questline which is mostly the same regardless of romance

Owl cat just sucks period. I can’t be bothered to play out any of their games.

>entire party dies to a level 1 crowd of small spiders because the only thing that can hit them is aoe spells and I have no magic casters

Does anyone here honestly like the Pillars 2 romances?
Not even in comparison to Owlcat games.

>>736967870
>being an unintentional voyeur means being a cuck
Your brain has been rotted by porn

If you enjoy video game romances you should stop blaming trannies and other retarded stuff because you are the tranny in this situation

>>736967235
I liked the groomer druid

>>736967206
Let me casually fuck random milkmaids in a barn and monica lewinsky sycophant types rather than trying to write dating sim shit with party members

>>736967948
>unintentional
She openly admits she actively goes looking to watch how mortals sleep together and both get off. Even if shes being shameful about it. Your options are
>give people privacy
And
>just don't get caught

>>736967575
Is the whole point of Camellia that not every one of your party members is actually capable of redemption? Shes a rejection of the main theme of the game alongside fucking Staunton?

>>736967897
>Complaining about a problem that affects one encounter in their first game almost a decade ago that was patched almost immediately
You don't want to play their games, no dramas.
You could have just said that instead of shitposting about a nonexistent issue you saw on 4chan.

>>736968028
Unintentional because it's not fetishistic, she's not getting off to it, and it's still not cuckoldry which was my point. There's one girl in this game that's okay with you fucking someone else and it ain't her

>>736968092
Tbh those things still fucked me up in 2025 cause the bombs I had weren't enough to kill all the swarms.

>>736966728
Obshittian
/thread

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>>736966728
Sorry I can't hear you over the sound of my fishwife moaning while we fuck like animals

>>736967896
Okay? Have you looked at something like BG3 which is supposed to set new standards and how much time they wasted trying to create a stinky EDM festival tent cuckhold sim over writing a plot? Or how much of the story and characters was verbatim thinly veiled projection by the queer/female writing staff.

>>736968090
No, that's something her fans made up to make her sound more deep than she actually is. The game isn't even about redemption, there are just element of it that you can firmly reject.

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>>736968090
If you're playing Angel, I suppose.
Aeon can fix both of them, but in Cam's case it's probably wrong to do so.
Apotheosis is the only ending where is more or less truly redeemed - all her insanity was in service of becoming a goddess of insanity.

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>>736967870
Daeran is cool even as a male KC

>>736968152
She's not getting off to anything, lets not pretend that a fucking succubus doesn't know what sex is or that watching it is a kink or that denial and chastity play are also kinks.
>watch this random girl get fucked lovingly and sit there thinking about how its not you because you don't deserve it and you aren't allowed to get off
Lets not pretend a succubus doesn't understand that even if its self-imposed rules and shes hiding behind a thin veneer of scientific curiosity.

a warhammer game doesn't even need romances. such a fucking gay gimmick.

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>>736968276
I'm not letting him give me dozens of rose bushes when I play a male character.

>>736968296
Projecting your fetishes a little bit too much, as always. She's well aware what sex is, demonic sex, watching people do it is unironically just curiosity to try and understand how mortals work

>>736968323
Listen we need 10 gay dudes and femcels to ruin the entire game talking about their daddy issues and that's not negotiable, now throw together a game so we can sell our fanfiction

>>736968362
I thought it was cute and the straight man shutdown didn't feel too mean

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>>736968362
Coward

>>736968213
>has children with another navigator but not with you

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>>736967896
and that's a good thing, rpgs should be about adventure and romance (not the gay physical kind)

>>736968323
>warhammer is not allowed to have anything but grimdark redshirt armies constantly failing to progress the setting in any way.
Main reason I'm not into that franchise.

>>736966872
I intentionally reject romantic advancements.

why is there always a cuck fantasizing about his cuckoldry fetish in every crpg thread?

>>736968440
Not if you get the best romance ending. She still won't have kids with you, I don't think it's even possible really, but she won't marry and have kids wiht another navigator out of obligation, she stays unmarried and continues her affair with you for the rest of her life.

>>736968498
She very much can have children with you, she just doesn't, but will with another navigator, literally Valerie 2

>>736968498
i dont think that's allowed in warhammer, if you're a navigator you MUST continue the bloodline as navigators are mandatory for going through the warp. "romance" has no fucking place in a navigator's life, they're destined to be livestock

>>736968553
That's nowhere close to Valerie anon

>>736968492
CRPGs are a high IQ genre and NTR is a high IQ fetish. It's like peanut butter and jam. They go hand in hand.

>>736968579
If you actually played the game you would know why this doesn't apply

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>the first primary tank in the game is a sassy black paladin woman whose defining character feature is being comedically incompetent and overly defensive of her hood rat friends
>the second primary tank is a sociopathic serial killer who lies with every breath (but it's ok because she's hot and likes the feeling of a man inside her)

You know we're not breaking the jackpot with Valerie either, but still, can I just get Hellknight Valerie instead?

>>736968579
That's why you need to get the absolute best ending, otherwise she'll still continue her affair with you but will marry and have kids. She's the head of her house also, so even though it's probably very controversial she can refuse to procreate.

When's the next RT DLC meant to be dropping?

>>736968484
Good because they're literally trying to get you to be gay and engage in their projected fantasies into a male hobby. Bg3 and pillars 2 was "mask off" with both games featuring "romance bugs" that made you gay if you talked to a male companion

>>736966728
if there is no fappable material the romance is pointless
I play H-games for romance

>>736968724
On the topic of fappable material I played through the first witcher for the first time recently and I really appreciate all the bushes.

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>>736966872
fpbp

>>736966728
I'm struggling, though Obsidian is pretty bad. Sawyer, who I respect, is a spiteful cunt when it comes to writing any sort of heterosexual relationship.

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wake up babe, new daily spambot just dropped

>>736968765
Surprising considering how much of the modern cosmetic industry and plastic surgery have been invented by the gigasluts known as sorceresses.

>>736968638
it's funny how there's an objectively correct romance option in every game
Kalikke in Kingmaker
Arueshelae in WOTR
Cassia in RT

>>736967206
Taking a shit is also an integral part of life, but I don't see anyone clamoring to include it in games.

>>736967353
>Owlcat has good romance options
>They're fucked up and laughing at you
>You shouldn't even WANT options, you oversocialized sperg
Nah fuck you and your retarded argument.

>>736966728
Larian and Obsidian easily.
Obsidian either doesn't have or has some fucking horrendous options that make staying a virgin unironically appealing.
Larian's game are full of literal manwhores and sluts who fuck you 5 minutes after meeting. There's no romance or courtship, it's a literal meet and fuck that cheapens any emotional payoff.
BG2 and Dragon Age Origins is still the king when it comes to romance in CRPGs.

>>736968941
they should, preferably by a sexy girl

>>736968654
Round about June iirc.

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>>736968968
>Larian's game are full of literal manwhores and sluts who fuck you 5 minutes after meeting

funnily enough, the one companion that doesn't jump on your dick immediately turns out to be the biggest turbowhore in the game, but this fact isn't revealed to you until the final act of the game.

>>736966872
You’re gay and pointless

>>736969160
It should be obvious that Karlach would be horny after a 10 year dry spell

>>736969242
he's talking about Shadowheart

>>736969160
who, karlach? i thought every "romance" in bg3 sucked ass although minthara was pretty alright since her being an evil drow matriarch fit with her being a whore

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>>736968950
As a critique of the concept and a future reference point, they're a productive addition to the medium, pushing the discourse forward in some way, shape, or form.

This alone is more than can be said about anything Bioware has done past DAO.

>>736968884
>Kalikke
And Kanerah

>>736969335
it's funny that you posted Yrliet since everything she says is a lie and she's secretly masturbating at the thought of "monkeighs" ravaging her body

>>736967206
> Fucking is an integral part of life
why are you looking for it in a fucking CRPG then, go fuck yourself IRL first and then go play the game instead of bitching about romances

>>736969404
keep telling yourself that lmao

go back to your general

>N-NOOOOOO YOU CAN"T TALK ABOUT VIDEO JAMES IN THE VIDEOGEMS BOARD!!(&!&#(!

>>736969160
>play 50 hours burning through the slowest slog gameplay imaginable
>act 2 is "I hate my dad/white men"
>whew finally act 3, thank you mr larian sar
>*act 3 loads*
>that hot babe catphishing you through telepathic tapeworms is actually a tranny squidman that wants to groom you
>your girlfriend cucks you
>dragonborn, punch the brain to win
THAT happened

>>736969416
Why are you pretending to be a hero in video games, go be one irl

>>736969956
*removes the ability to play paladin from your cuck game because killing evil gay transhumans is problematic*

>>736969948
Its too bad I knew fuck all about mindflayers and githyanki when I tried this shit and it expected me to think I was going to zombify in 24 hours to establish any kind of stakes when there was a clear transformation pod on the ship with a fucking activation code and I wasn't in one. At least I managed to sneak around half of act 1 with no companions before I met the only tolerable one (Karlach)

>>736970545
schizo reply

>>736970545
What game doesn't let you play paladin, its gotta be the most common fantasy class in rpgs.

>>736970584
The best part is it's entirely fanfiction so even people that know the lore don't know what BG3 is. I'm pretty sure the entire plot was originally you getting catphished/coached by a homosexual mindflayer who sticks estrogen patches on you to power you up but they realized that's too on the nose so they made up constructs powered by telepathic tapeworms for act 3

>>736967353
>Go play Rance
You're saying that as if Rance doesn't have superior writing, setting, plot and characters.

>>736967937
>no Ydwin
No

>>736971069
remember when they went through all the female art in the game and tried to make them uglier just before release

>>736966728
Games shouldn't have romance options, the only people that want them are the lowest dregs of humanity that shouldn't even have human riggts.

>>736966872
It's a set side quests and a hidden progress bar. It's not even about being "gross wish fulfillment" or whatever, its just stilted unnatural trash that's tacked on because it's an expectation even if romantic involvement is extremely out of character. I have always hated it.

>>736966728
If romance is important to you, why play RPGs and not dating sims/visual novels?

anti-romancefags seething itt lmao sorry but romanceGODS won

>>736971189
>blank group should have no outlets whatsoever because I am personally disgusted by them
>what the fuck why are they acting out
Gamers rise up.

>>736971324
I want games where romance is part of the story, not complete separation of sex from plot. Nu-media is gay as fuck when it removes all normal romance whatsoever.
Knight saves princess for romantic reward. Who gives a fuck if its problematic as long as its heroic.

>>736971809
This
What's the point of being a hero when you don't have a wife and kids to come back to

>>736969956
being a hero isn't an integral part of life

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>>736971809
Not really much of a romance but I remember appreciating that Jump King delivered on the promise of a hot babe at the top without pulling a subversion

>>736971365
>romanceGODS won
if you won, why are you always complaining?

>>736972502
I'm not, only retards here do because they like complaining about anything

>>736966950
Unironically these games never let you go far enough on that end, why can't I ask to watch Camilla get destroyed by a couple of black guys if I want? They want to simultaneously give you slutty used goods while not letting you watch the slut part, I get that it's not a porn game but they could just slip some casual
dialogue in referencing it

>>736972983
That's why BG3 is the best crpg, you want Shadowheart to fuck Halsin? She can do it, no one compares to Larian

>>736966728
If you can't handle the writing why don't you just pretend like that one fucking comic faggot who has made endless garbage about him and Yrilet not acting like Yrilet in the slightest?
>Wahhh but my ending slide isn't a perfect ending of romance and love in fucking 40k
I hate you people on a level I could never express with words

>>736966728
Twins were good, Nyrissa was interesting, Queen was okay, Cassia and Kibbles were GOATed. Dunno what your issue is.

>>736966908
Chaotic evil is such an awful alignment for a human-adjacent character. A lawful or even neutral evil character with grand ambitions is 100x more compelling than a crazy bitch who kills just because it makes her cum hard

>>736973191
>queen
no thank you

>>736966728
3some twins and salad are nice
Galfrey was pretty cute
Cassia is pure waifu bait

>>736966908
Savior bait. It honestly worked too well.

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>>736973234
>a crazy bitch who kills just because it makes her cum hard

>>736973121
Thanks, I hate you too

>>736973440
what was the bait exactly? her nonstop murders and you allowing her to do it? her murder of slaves behind your back? finding out that her spirit's desires are actually hers? finding out that she wants to murder her father and not really hesitating when killing his clone?

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>play wrath of the righteous because /v/ keeps jerking it off as the greatest crpg ever
>get the corniest writing I've ever seen

>>736966728
Twins: threesome'd
Succ: impregnated
Fish: deflowered
Owlcat has never done me wrong, I'll eagerly wait for Regina

>>736966728
They also like to actively waste character slots on characters very obviously no one gives a shit and no one puts on their team giving the choice, instead of using that dev time on literally anything else.

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>>736966728
I don't think it's even BAD romances. Owlcat is intentionally blue balling players.

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>>736974968
never seen anyone praising the writing beyond the waifufags slurping up everything about their oneitis

>>736974968
I find a majority of the writing to be fine with the corny shit standing out noticably. I do like both the writing and gameplay more than baldurs gate 3 but thats not exactly a high bar.

>>736966728
Obsidian

>>736975217
Lets see
>the orc and the slut
>gay priest, reddit dwarf and the black paladin maybe
>jae and the secret companions
Thats my list, you could add the undead elf and doomer dwarf for kingmaker too, put that was more my personal problem of not figuring out how to build them

>>736975350
Jaethal and Harim are good. Octavia and Regongar are the only low tier kingmaker companions

>>736975534
Valerie is worse than both of them

the older I get, the more I agree with JSawyer that romances with the player in RPGs are a mistake
>>736974968
Owlcat is Russian therefore trad and zased, you lost tranny

>>736973440
Savior bait worked good for Wenduag's thing at least. It was fun playing an evil guy that lightened up over the campaign alongside her doing the same

>>736966728
Obsidian and Bethesda

>>736975605
her breakdown after getting scarred was fun

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I love Owlcat because I hate RPG romance schlock and all of the faggots that love it

I genuinely couldn't care any less about CRPG romances.
>>736967206
Use your imagination, retard. Make the romance inferred. We don't need devs wasting months of dev time to help you masturbate.

>>736975772
>just completely headcanon an entire shipping tier subplot that the game will directly contradict
People do this whether an actual romance is written or not. But its no reason not to implement it if both people and devs want it in. Yes there are still examples of games both with or without romance as an option.
You could play the outer worlds or crimson desert or something if you hate expressions of affection so much. I can play pathfinder or dragon age origins or dragons dogma or fable.

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>>736975605
Valerie is the funniest Owlcat companion. She has 8 int, and the game constantly makes fun of her for being, at her best, the exact thing she is trying to not be perceived as.

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>>736975772
>I love Owlcat because I hate RPG romance
Owlcat likes romances and they know it's popular so that's a bit odd

Larian obviously

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>>736966728
I actually like most of them
90% of cuckposting is headcanon, out of context, or bad faith
I'll admit Jae and Octavia are a bit daring and deserve the shitposting, though I will make the case that Octavia is well written and her situation makes sense (while still being degenerate)

Mind you, while they are mostly fine they could be much better, Owlcat definetly has bad habits when it comes to the companion roster.

>>736968853
>regardless of how Neeshka's author felt about her place in the story
maybe don't fucking write multiple instances of Neeshka getting jeaous over you paying attention to other women in the party then, CUNT

>>736977407
>headcanon, out of context, or bad faith
I know who your waifu is, sorry, but you're a cuck

>>736977407
As much as I'm against non-virgin romance, I think the core concepts of a lot of these characters are well formed. I just personally wouldn't follow through with a romance with any of them myself, thats why its up to fictional characters to do it.

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>>736975772
Appropriate you used Bret there since he's a bitter self mark retard that almost nobody agrees with aside from his takes on HHH sucking omega dick

>Yrlietfag STILL seething he can't fuck the eldar
She's only good for target practice anyway, treacherous xeno whore

>>736966728
Pillars of Eternity 2 exists

>>736974968
I think a lot of that just comes from the pathfinder setting, because I remember being irked by that in those games too but had no such problems with rogue trader. Still, wotr has some kino stuff too.

>>736975534
Octavia is pretty fun outside of her relationship with the orc imo. Her banter with most party members is pretty good, Harrim especially.

>>736977407
Jae has a weirdly sweet romance considering one of the first things she does is playing poker in the nude while high

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>>736966872
This, "romance" in games is always time wasting garbage only retarded porn addicts can enjoy

>>736967183
>out of nowhere
>>736966950
>>736967804
>>736967870
>>736968628

>romance is a core component in cRPGs and not just some tacked-on fluff akin to a sidequest
I see Bioware's influence is still alive and well.

>>736978984
>nude poker
she had an orgy

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Behold the best written companion for a cRPG for the last 20 years. A random bumfuck racist farmer that travels with you as a tank having a crisis of faith because his god started a rebellion and got btfo'd. Even his own companion-related quests don't do him justice, in BOTH games.

>>736979420
He's based

>>736979420
He's based, a canon womaniser, a playful racist and the most useful companion. What's not to love?

>>736974968
Play Pillars of Eternity if you want good prose for a semi-recent cRPG. Every other cRPG writes prose like a cheap YA novel. Although, it does get very purple-y at times, that's more forgivable than having curt or bland writing.

>>736979420
He's Alistair in DAO if he was written better.

>>736966728
I love my twin-wives though.

>>736966872
If you want a game that explores the human condition and relations, to just pretend love and romance just don't exist is to give a painfully limited and usually incorrect out look on things, people can and will fall in love with each other and have feelings and shit and have all sort of complicated situations or feelings as a result of that, it's just if you treat it as something to put a check mark on rather than something that is actually apart of the story and has meaning to the overall message to the game it comes off as cheap, boring, even detrimental to a character, which is probably why you feel the way you do cause you've been burned by shit writing.
And RT kinda has both Romances that do feel like they are actually trying to communicate something and others that feel like they're just like there for arbitrary reasons.
they also have a romance that should exist but doesn't for arbitrary reasons

>>736979280
She didn’t
Cassia would have actually cooked their brains if there had been more going on than some nudity

>>736979581
be careful about praising pillars because for some reason it attracts a certain anon who will spam the thread to shit shitting on it

>>736979420
Is PoE worth playing?

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Octavia is 11/10.
People just dislike how she already had a relationship with her childhood friend orc-stepbrother when you found her.

>>736980092
Yes. It's just had a new turn based mode added as well if you prefer that

>>736980150
If you didn't romance them as a pair you didn't beat the game

>>736980150
>people dislike how she's cuckbait
Yes

>>736979420
I love Eder.

>>736980092
Did you like playing the Infinity Engine games? Pillars is meant to be a collection of fan suggestions in forums for more than a decade about those games all collected into one franchise.

the options are all pretty awesome when it comes to what they go for there's just 0 conventional romances that are played totally straight. More fun to engage with in a game than say bg3 but not so much so when you want to talk waifushit with the boys on the basket weaving forum

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>>736966728
your fault for picking the worst options than

>>736980364
>there's just 0 conventional romances that are played totally straight
Yes there are

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>>736966728
Fucking Marvelous LET ME ROMANCE THE DRAGON YOU FUCKIGN COWARDS

>>736979420
Him, that midget druid and the fish orc bard with Durance were a good duo to travel with

>>736980472
>Dragon
only alive female dragon is a red dragon single mother with tons of children. /v/ would call it cuckbait too

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>>736980092
No, the writing is like watching pain dry and the gameplay is dull and tedious.

>>736980496
That was usually my party too along with either Aloth, the monk or robot from the DLC. Deadfire's companions were just not as good sadly and it's telling that the best companions were the returning ones from the first game.

>>736980496
Durance has the best companion quest in the game but they way how they designed it was the worst. You basically have to convince a priest that his own god wanted to kill him but how Obsidian did it was to exhaust SPECIFIC dialogues checks by conversing with him that are not only dispersed throughout the main questine but he refuses to speak to you after a few lines so you have to rest again (which is bugged for some inns to not progress because he and Grieving Mother conflict with progressing their quest through resting).

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>>736966908
Nothing, bitches can't handle her because she's helpful.

>>736980754
The helpful joke is more ran through than Camellia herself

>>736980653
Just so the other anon knows, what you posted are backer characters meant to populate areas. The game literally advises you not to interact with them. The same goes with the gravestones.

>>736977407
what the fuck is regill's problem anyway

>>736966728
your problem is that you keep playing western CRPGs when you really want to be playing japanese dating sims

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>>736966908
Plenty

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>>736968090
the main theme of the game is how you cope with becoming an unpaid janitor, everything else is secondary

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At some point in my early 20's I realize romance in games is fucking stupid and I actively avoid it.
If anything Owlcat is based for having bad romance. I'm still not going to play their games for other reasons but I will applaud them for not investing.

>>736980194
The goats are right there for the superior two for the price of one deal.

>>736966728
>Romance is bad
>Stories are endlessly meandering
>Gameplay is obnoxious stat-padded bullshit
Is Owlcat good at anything?

>>736981614
Every time you post this you get btfo, this has been going on for 2 years now
When will you get tired? Everyone who ACTUALLY played the game knows the context for this line. If you wanted to shit on the romance in good faith you would use the ending.

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>>736969948
>make dream guardian male so it's not a tranny catfish
>dreams become obviously gay-coded
the only winning move is not to play

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>>736980372
She needs to lay dragon eggs

>>736979581
>Pillars of Eternity if you want good prose
lol
LMFAO even
i'll take Owlcat's slightly juvenile but refreshingly forward writing over Pillars wordslop proper noun soup.

>>736980203
But I'm better for her.

>>736981832
A steak is better than fried fish but after eating it 3 times in a row I'd take some of that fish.

>>736981882
>knows the context for this line
What does Cam like to do after killing?
>If you wanted to shit on the romance in good faith you would use the ending
Like the one where she starts fucking other men if you sacrifice yourself, being the only romance to do so? Yeah I know

>>736981849
>>Romance is bad
no rpgs other than old Bioware ever did good romances so that's not really a knock against the games
>>Stories are endlessly meandering
filtered
>>Gameplay is obnoxious stat-padded bullshit
GIGAfiltered

>>736976023
Kingmaker's party of adventurers are honestly great. Individually and the dynamics between them.

>>736982010
>What does Cam like to do after killing?
I don't know anon, the first time she explores caves and sleeps in a tent, the second time she helps you hunt gargoyles
Statistically, it depends.
And Herrax is clearly trying to piss her off there so if she did anything beyond killing she would obviously mention it
Though you will ignore these arguments as you have done every single time you got btfo in the past

>Yeah I know
Then why do you use your headcanon intead of the in game canon? Just use the ending, you will look less retarded

>>736966985
Pascal...

>>736966728
>romance
LONDON

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>>736980092
yes and no

>>736982381
I don't think this is how the meme is used anon

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>>736966985
Cassia is basically the default romance thoughever?

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>>736966985
I should have fixed her...

>>736982010
Cam swears that she didn't have sex with anyone else and I believe her, she would never lie to me.

>>736982531
You kinda can but she fucking dies a millisecond afterwards, only survives if you are evil.

>>736982531
You'll never unknot her

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>can turn lower deck into unwilling followers of Nurgle
>can't do this to any other part of the ship
I want my main deck on my ship to be tzeentch or slaanesh themed, the heretical aligned changes are so ugly because it's all just generic spikes and cages compared to Iconoclast (blue explorer themed) and dogmatic (red church themed) https://www.youtube.com/shorts/zse5v0glUDM

Yrliet never betrays you btw unless you're a dipshit.

>>736982782
Stop making me lust after demon ass

>>736982815
Yrliet literally always betrays you
>b-b-b-b-but it wasn't a b-b-betrayal she just got tricked!
Lmao yeah sure, tricked by deldar, telling her to go to point A and taking you there without telling you who told her to, the most obvious trap ever

>>736983164
She also gets captured and raped unless you help her. She's guilty of being a retard, not of being a betrayer.

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>>736982495
Least you could do is post good fanart of her, not Raszard's

>>736983253
>good fanart
doesnt exist or if it does i have no idea where to find it

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>>736983140
Feeling lust towards the sex demons is only natural, guardsman
I really wish we got a daemonette companion for the heretic path

>>736983307
I literally just posted one

>>736983319
I wish owlcat was more brave with companions, rogue trader and wotr really could've benefited from more "exclusive" companions. RT already has an extremely bloated companion roster that honestly should've been trimmed depending on which alignment you play. Would've helped to make each path feel more unique since they wouldn't have to account for 12 different companions in every scenario.
WOTR was especially retarded in that sense in which you could go for a literal demon or lich path and still have holy paladins or hellknights working with you.

all wrpg "romances" are shit because devs aren't actually interested in creating appealing heroines and are just making checkboxes for mentally ill california gaymers and retards who don't know better because they refuse to play anime games. even if they did want to they couldn't because they are ideologically limited by woke imperatives. basically every wrpg heroines falls into one of 3 categories:
>domineering bitch who judges everything you do (will tell you about her past relationships so you can't accidentally think she's a virgin)
>bisexual whore who will fuck anyone and everything
>quirk chungus

>>736983363
Yeah it is quite nice. I really hope one day Owlcat can do dynamic portraits like in VNs or have good enough 3D models to actually animate. Cassia deserves more art.

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>>736983319
>No (good) Eldar lady romance for my Iconocuck playthrough
>No Sister of Battle romance for my Dogmachud playthrough
>Not even a Daemonette romance for my Chaosnigger playthrough because she got cut from the game
I'm never gonna forgive Owlcuck. I'm also pirating all their games from now on until this is corrected.

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>>736983514
is that you Sawyer?

>>736983590
He's absolutely, empirically correct about everything btw.

>>736974524
Yes. Up to this point in RPGs, no matter how vile and evil she was, you could always "redeem" a romantic interest through love.

Viconia is the ur-example:
>served an evil goddess for 150 years,
>then switched over for an even more evil one,
>had three husbands prior to meeting the main character,
>had multiple lovers prior to meeting the main character,
>prostituted herself on the surface,
>a confirmed child-killer,
>made numerous sacrifices to her evil goddess,
>still hits on a different man in your party (Sarevok), even if you're romancing her,

But people still ate it up, because you could switch her alignment and make her a bit less of a bitch for the last 30% of the second game's expansion.

So Camellia is a giant middle finger to those types of romances.

>>736983816
Cambros' need to feel unique and special will never not be funny, to the point that they genuinely have to convince themselves that she's some kind of "subversion" even though the game fully expects you to be an evil asshole alongside her

>>736983514
You're just a tasteless bitch. Here's a list of female romances who fit none of the three, just off the top of my head:
>Raven (Arcanum),
>Aerie (Baldur's Gate II)
>Elanee (Neverwinter Nights II)
>Trish Merigold (The Witcher Series)
>Lara Ravel (Pathologic II)
>Kibellah, Cassia (Rogue Trader)
>Wenduag (Wrath of the Righteous)
>Aribeth (Neverwinter Nights; Neverwinter Nights II)
>Fall-From-Grace; Annah (Planescape: Torment)

>>736983481
RT has some exclusive companions but there isn't much meat to them

>>736983926
>>Wenduag (Wrath of the Righteous)
lol

>>736981645
The actual main story is about becoming an entity that is both beyond and outside of humanity.

Unfortunately, the only paths that achieve it fully are Aeon and Demon. Even Lich, for 80% of his playtime, feels more like just playing a Necromancer. Trickster, Azata and Angel just have you feel like a super-powered human.

>>736984003
Yes, you retard, maybe actually try playing the game. Her whole schtick is that she's acting like a slavering toady for the majority of the game.

it's telling that owlcuck made it so you can't do romance with argenta and had the dark elfdar party member be a dude instead of a girl.

>>736983974
>>736983481
It's understandable from a dev time perspective since it takes a large amount of dev time to make a companion that's fully fleshed out with sidequests and such so it's wasted if you have to dumpster that companion for some large % of playthroughs
the way they get around that is by making the exclusive companions extremely lategame with no content aside from just getting the character which also sucks

>>736984031
She literally gloats about how much of a slut she is and openly tries to fuck other men

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>>736983319
I'm honestly fine with not having the daemonette, but I really do wish that you actually saw companions becoming degenerate as you become more evil, just like Kotor 2 and falling to the dark side.
Both Cassie and Jae are basically immune to chaos and have no real changes happening to them during heretical run, think Cassie only comments on seeing weird colors around you but that's it. Not even sure if they have unique ending slides at all for heretical, something that Kibellah,Solomorne,Idira and Abelart have

>>736983874
She lies to you and tells you its for a greater purpose (while its still obvious she's fucked up), that is the classic playbook of a character arc questline, she also gets a tragic backstory. The game then subverts this as it becomes increasingly clear that it all doesn't matter, she's still irredeemable, none of that was relevant, even the true parts like the backstory.
>Cambros' need to feel unique and special
It's literally what her character is, there is no need for anything. It's not super deep or complicated, it's pretty on the nose, but somehow you still missed it.

Jae is bae

>>736984116
Yeah, I like RT companions, it's probably the best roster of Owlcat yet, but there is a lot of room for improvement in that regard, it still feels like all runs are the same when it comes to companions, in fact in RT the issue is worse than in Wrath where you had a decent good/evil balance

>>736984098
Try to not to view everything from the angle of your own insecurities.

You're not lovers. You are her MASTER. You can use her body because she sees it as your right. It's not a relationship, but a transaction. Only if you go on the True Love route does she start changing.

>>736984184
The game doesn't subvert anything because it never expects you to "fix" her, it's obvious that she's lying from the get-go unless you're a brainlet and you're supposed to be okay with her committing mass murder, the game already has an I can fix her slut, as badly done as it may be, you consistently have to encourage her to be better. That doesn't happen with Camellia because there's no subversion, the gotcha towards "I can fix her" fags only exists in your head

>>736984303
Can you read?
>will tell you about her past relationships so you can't accidentally think she's a virgin
>bisexual whore who will fuck anyone and everything
Wendog fits the criteria for both

>>736984031
>demon escapes the "super-powered human" designation but trickster doesn't
Demon is just the story of becoming a generic warlord or a simp lol

>>736984398
And can your little brain understand you're not in a romance with her?

>>736984598
But it portrays from the very start that you're slowly turning into a different being altogether, and your companion reactions reflect that.

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>>736966728
Only Owlcat were capable enough to create my husband, so i cannot possibly agree with your assessment of their romances. Total Jimmy Love!

>>736984656
The first one she only does if you're romancing her, and the topic is about female romances, what the fuck are you talking about?

>>736984656
I catalog those reactions as moral rather than the demon's inherent presence, in that regard it's no different to the other paths.

>>736969335
I get that she'd be disgusted by sex or breeding. That makes sense, since to her kind it'd be the same as bestiality

But the part that's weird/retarded is why would hugging or regular intimacy be uncomfortable for her?
IRL, people hug their pets or let dogs sleep on the bed all the time. You can care deeply about an animal and form a lifelong bond with one without wanting to fuck it.

But in Yrliet's case, the player is like... barely a close friend? Even after everything you do to help her.
Really weird writing.

>>736983926
>Trish Merigold (The Witcher Series)
>Kibellah (Rogue Trader)
>Wenduag (Wrath of the Righteous)
>not a bisexual whore that will fuck anything
lol

>>736981312
Chaos

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>>736984878
I'm sorry but how is Kibellah a whore who will fuck anything?
Has shitposting evolved to a new level that I was not aware of?

Like, the worst thing you can say about her is that (after travelling with you for a while) she has sex at the first "date", but she sees you as a literal god, it's not like Jae who was going around distributing blowjobs to the crew

>>736984031
she's also a disgusting mutant and lann's sloppy seconds. also aerie was the original non-threating quirky girl.

>>736983590
he was 100% right but for the wrong reasons

>>736984964
>the original non-threating quirky girl
Ah yes, the "she's not a cunt, therefore she's non-threatening" you're indeed correct that this (retarded) logic has plagued that type of girl since Aerie

>>736984656
>umm dude it's an open relationship she can fuck other people and I respect that

What kind of Rogue Trader build should I run if I'm generally aiming towards having Abelard, Argenta, Cassia, and Pasqal in the party.

>>736967206
Taking a shit is also an integral part of life, even more integral than fucking, yet I don't see you advocating for every game to include a shitting mechanic

>>736984285
WotR roster is better. RT companions have almost no content. They are cool but unless you are named Kibellah, Heinrix, Yrliet or Cassia you basically don't exist past Act 1.
Argenta especially is a travesty with her turning into a merc when you leave Footfall and not getting even a single iota of content or reactivity until Comorragh.

>>736985387
>WotR roster is better
No way. Only Daeran and Regil are good. The rest can go die in a fire for all I care. They are all extrenely unlikeable. RT companion might have jack all for content but they completely mog in terms of likeability and banter

>>736985347
It unironically doesn't matter. RT can be anything. Psykers are by far the most powerful class if that's your thing.

>>736985470
>the edgy midget and the annoying homo (he's not annoying because I want to fuck him)
daring today /v/

>>736985470
Disagree. I like RT roster but they're just objectively less fleshed out than the WotR one. You might not like the WotR characters but none of them feel like mercs unlike RT.
RT needed a dlc to add content to every companion rather than adding even more companions that'll get 1 quest then remain silent for the rest of the playthrough.

>>736985347
Noble/Officer skill monkey. Just sit back and buff everyone.

>>736985591
I don't care how well fleshed out a character is if they're unlikeable. wotr roster isn't just the bottom of the barrel. They had to turn over the barrel and scratch the other side of it, then made wotr companions from what they'd gotten there

>>736985470
arue, woljiff, and ember are all fine
camilla is funny if you like her gimmick and you can kill her quickly if you don't
the only companions in wotr who i think are really irredeemable are the dwarf guy and wendawg

>>736985347
something Psyker would be good because how diverse you can get with them, just experiment with what you think is the coolest psyker school with exception being Diviner

>>736968941
Yeah, but it's a negative part of life. Why include the bad instead of the good?

>>736985728
No way, nenio, sosiel and seelah are way worse than wenduag.

>>736985613
Officer is the most boring class in the game. Just let Jae or Cassia do it. MC is way more fun Asa psyker or archmilitant.

>>736985835
I forgot about Nenio because I literally never take her kek

>>736985728
>arue, woljiff, and ember are all fine
Lol, ablooblooefag immediately jumping to his garbage waifu's defense. Fuck off, retard, and kill yourself. Terrible character, just like emder. Woljif is at least isn't offensively bad

>>736985613
Look at the buffslut, gonna put on a dress? Sissy

>>736985835
Nenio is based
Sosiel is bland and I've never used him really when Daeran can easily cover Divine.
Seele is boring but you should be playing a Paladin in a good playthrough anyway so she's redundant.

Nigga said emder

>>736985897
You sound upset

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>>736985728
>dwarf guy

>>736985728
the dwarf is hilarious because you recruit him on a mission to slay a dragon, but his build is so bad he can only hit the dragon on a 19+.

Wrath party mogs the dogmasharts in Rogue Trader. Abelard, Kibellah and Cassia are the only good companions in that game.

>>736985973
It was an incredible decision to have him fuck up the second time he was on screen

What I'm getting from this thread is that everyone hates 90% of Owlcat characters

>>736986017
It would be hilarious if the story didn't pretend that he's this super skilled assassin when in truth he's extremely incompetent. You really don't need him to kill that dragon

>>736985973
It's funny how even this dude is somehow more fleshed out than any RT companion lol. WotR really was the better game.

>>736966728
Modern Bioware or Obsidian, Larian.
Well, that was easy.

>>736986018
And lo and behold, all 3 are dogmatic.

>>736986053
>everyone
No, just /v/ contrarians, the characters are mostly beloved or at worst divisive, with some exceptions like Sosiel or Gaybore who are so boring nobody cares about them
Also this contrarianism applies to every modern CRPG, people always act like the companions are the absolute worst of the worst but then they go and jerk off to their favorite turnip midget from their favorite boomer game

>>736976023
Valerie has lower INT and WIS than the barbarian who occasionally does Hulk speak and the retarded goblin

>>736986018
>Abelard,
nothingburger character, even more than Argenta
>Kibellah
not even a character
> and Cassia
ok

>>736986017
>>736986085
Dual wielding is just bad in Pathfinder without a fuck tonne of investment. Also he's a dwarf (20 ft move) and specialized in Dwarven Axes (medium sized weapons) and has no defense since he's a slayer with low DEX.
Probably the worst built companion desu. Lorewise he probably should be effective against the dragon.
Regill's build is also not great but it can be redeemed unlike Greybor.

Can't think of any game where "romance" wasn't a low effort waste of time.
Maybe stop being an incel.

>>736986330
Dual wielding can be amazing, but not on Graybore hilariously, Wenduag with dual throwing hatchets is a DPS machine and can do so from the safety of the backline

>>736986330
>Regill's build is also not great but it can be redeemed unlike Greybor.
Redpill me on how to use Regill.

>>736986330
Can't slayer just cheat all the dual wielding requirements? Greybor still gets full bab and has okay stats so how bad could he really be?
>>736986453
Ignore hell knight completly and go all in on fighter levels. Going strength is also an option despite his initial build, it’s just a much easier stat to buff sky high.

>>736986453
Triceratops statue to give him a mount. Completely ignore hellknight and level him exclusively on Fighter. Grab mythic finesse to convert his DEX to dmg. He'll eventually become a blender that shits out dmg with his full attacks.
If Triceratops is too immersion breaking for you you prolly won't have a great experience since Gnome also has the movement malus for being a small race.

>>736986359
It's not an issue of effort, by nature romance in a crpg has to satisfy a bunch of requirements
>several dialogue options
This is a huge limiting factor, you are not writing both characters, you are only writing the npc, and the player needs to have different options that fit different players. This already makes it harder to do than a romance novel
>decent amount of options and appeal
You can't write a properly placed, unique romance path, you have to write several paths, for several girls, and for at least some of them to be generic enough for wide appeal
>separate from the companion's quest
Since the romance options are companions, you want their bulk of content to be outside of the romance. This makes the romance much shallower because the bulk of the character writing happens outside of it.

Still, I wouldn't say it's not worth doing, players like it, me included. It cannot be a gourmet dish like a well written book/show/movie romance but its a decent burger.

>>736986559
>has okay stats so how bad could he really be?
nigga has a 27 point buy dog

>>736986563
>Triceratops statue to give him a mount
My niggy. I always give it to him.

>>736986559
Fighter is the only class that can cheat medium weapon dual wielding. He's also just made of paper. STR dual wielding is horrible for defense. His AC is so pathetic he'll likely get shredded by even the shittiest fodder enemies.
He CAN shit out dmg if he's untouched but most companions can do that while not being a glass cannon.

>>736986563
>>736986559
OK so just fightermaxx him? That sounds easy enough.

>>736986690
>Fighter is the only class that can cheat medium weapon dual wielding
my demonslayer ranger is able to get the TWF feats despite not having the dex for them though

>>736986739
I'm talking about effortless dual wielding (no penalties on dual wielding medium weapons).
Only Fighter has access to that. You're pretty much stuck with using a handaxe in his offhand if you don't want -4 to all attacks.