>>737010921
are sindits viable or is mage the only class worth making

>>737010921
im too neurotypical to care

>>737011438
Sindit is almost required for bandit unless you are prepared to spend a lot of time farming/grinding safely with basic attack.

>>737010921
I didnt get in

if you didn't get your key yet you're not getting in, they sent them all out yesterday, you'll have gotten a confirmation and will get your key on the 16th.
Just for anyone who was holding out hope.
You CAN use keys outside of the account you signed up for, so get to buying if you want the limited cosmetics that you'll never be able to get otherwise!

>>737010921
>What are your thoughts and impressions so far?
Only streamers got in so no one knows

>>737010921
This was always gonna be a beta test for people who attended the IRL events, the codes people could sign up for are just a few pity codes for people who didn't get to go to an event.

Full release in May!!!!!!

>>737011778
not a fucking chance. Fall is most likely, after anniversary, before winter patch on GMS. Two months is bare minimum for them to collect and implement data from the test.

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>>737011438
Double Stab was buffed, so no reason to go sindit anymore. I can 1 shot horny mushrooms while sins are doing 53/55 with L7.

>>737010921
I'm not getting in, but from what I've seen from streams they need to do some changes and fixes.
>>737011778
I wish, but likely looking at summer. Worst case they keep pushing it beyond which would honestly suck.

>>737010921
I actually met an Asian girl playing MapleStory back in the day but she was really fucking ugly

So, these "leaf points" I'm seeing, are they just analogous to NX, or are they doing an NX/maple point split so people can buy mesos "legitimately"?

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>>737011852
there's probably going to be another beta, this guy had to reset all his stats to dex to hit 2nd job adv mobs on a sin
the game is extremely unpolished and probably full of exploits atm

What are you guys thinking of the meso/potion management? A lot of people getting softlocked by no potions or meso.

Chairs aren't in the game yet since it's this early, right? That was pretty much the fix for it back in the day. Skill issue till then. Make a warrior, don't need to expend mesos just to play the character and can save up some resources.

>>737012604
wont be a thing past week 1

>>737012604
Small adjustments could be made, but I don't think it's the end of the world. This is mainly just going to be an issue for the start of the game before things balance out. Main issue is probably people don't realise they can't just burn through HP/MP pots non-stop and actually have to think about the playstyle of old maple a little bit more.
>>737012672
Chairs are in the game, atleast the first one from the tutorial island. You have to deal with a ton of people camping the boxes though so debate if you want to stay or not. You can supposedly craft chairs iirc.

GigaTaco is almost at 2nd job lads.

Crafting is really unexplored I think thats suppose to be the main way to get gear since ore drops seem to be buffed. Maybe it might help with the accuracy woes.

>took nexon NA longer than it took wizet to make maplestory just to make classic
>balance is complete ass, somehow worse than OG and mages are even stronger than they used to be
>accuracy is completely fucked which further makes mages even better
>quests and PQs nerfed to shit, literally not worth doing at all anymore
>sell prices of certain items nerfed hard, potion economy is miserable
>forced to grind in full parties otherwise your rates go to shit
>new content doesn't match with the old content whatsoever
>dutch players fucked over and can't trade

First 5 hours were or so were fun and nostalgic. Now everyone knows it's magestory again so my interest in playing is very little. Nexon not opening up more slots and just sending out more invites is a buzzkill, shooting themselves in the foot here not capitalizing on hype. By the time the beta is over I doubt anyone will be talking about classic anymore.

>>737013307
>dutch players
oh no, all 2 of them

so it's basically 1:1 to old classic, we got baited

>>737013763
>so it's basically 1:1 to old classic
isnt that what people want? #nochanges

>>737013763
No, it's got massive changes to balance, but none of those changes adjust that the core problem with classic is that mages are better than everything else due to fundamental game design issues.
So, mages are basically minimally impacted by other things being slightly harder and more grindy, while everyone else feels it significantly moreso.

>>737013763
It's similar but there are important differences. Faster base movement, buffed potions.

>>737011438
bandits have always been viable but are probably the most involved class at high levels, dropping meso's doesn't have any support for it but is the most effective damage for several bosses in old maple

I wouldnt invest so much in meta right now. A lot of the balancing is probably going to change as a result of the beta.

>>737013763
Sounds good to me, hopefully my class of choice will be very rare. Crossbowchad maxxing here I come

People are calling Maplestory Classic "Lemonstory"

>>737014231
they said that with maplecon, you know, in october.
There were pretty much 0 changes from october to feb, and from feb to now they had some but still not that many. They're clearly not listening to the feedback.

>>737013932
Mages standouts:
>Energy Bolt is better than Magic Claw in DPS/Damage efficiency
>Doesn't suffer nearly as hard under the tight resource economy
>Doesn't need to worry about accuracy woes as hard as the others

Solutions:
>Just remove Energy Bolt period, we've had different incarnations of mages with EB, this skill just doesn't fucking work. EB is suppose to be an early game shitter skill that you replace Magic Claw with but it's taking up a valuable skill point to do so. But now magic claw is completely useless if its as strong as it is now.
>Tight Resources are a game factor, maybe make potions just a small bit easier to get. I understand the aversion to have mesos be so easily obtainable to avoid inflation but right now potions are just a little too unsustainable.
>Make mages suffer accuracy penalties as the rest, the only class which accuracy SHOULDN'T be an issue are (x)bowmans because they're naturally speced into dex.

do you guys think there will be another test, or will it be released after this

>>737012308
>109 dex at level 30
OMEGAKEK. Hilarious accuracy formula.

>>737014420
The balance changes are fucking retarded.
Magic claw does less damage and costs more mana than energy bolt, just to be able to hit through terrain which is completely fucking irrelevant

>>737014530
Spotted the casual shitter

>>737014530
I think the idea was to make energy bolt more important but the skill has never ever had a good history. The skill needs to just be replaced by magic claw wholesale.

what are the chances of me getting a gf when this releases?

Hard Mode:
>no SEAmonkies
>no trannies

>>737014429
Really wanting to play I'd want a release as soon as possible. From the current state and feedback it seems they need to adjust and change things and how long that takes is unknown. Could be that they push open test and then release or go with the open test to launch method.

I'm just gonna play MapleRoyals this weekend :L

>>737014656
0%, women don't play MMOs anymore, they play valorant and league and tft and shit.
Also there won't be nearly enough cute items, they're clearly going the minimalism route with this.

>>737013316
Mages have always been wonky. They start off weak before they can job advance to magician, then they ramp up and are better than everyone else. Then they get carried by their 1st job attack skill while their 2nd job skills are dog shit until they get them with more than half of their SP invested into the skills, then they become good at grinding again. Then repeat that for 3rd job with their skills being ass until they essentially max a skill. Again for 4th job until they have heavy investment into a 4th job skill. Other classes skills often build upon one another. Like slash blast and power strike gets Mastery, then booster, then possibly final Attack. Then you get something like combo Attack that is another skill stacked upon other skills.

On the other hand not everyone cares to be a mage.

>>737014752
what is about shooter and mobaslop that appeals to ewhores?

>>737014656
For you, Patel, unlikely.

>>737014880
They're able to be supportive whores and don't need to actually be decent at the game and can rely on getting carried.
MMOs still require you to do things.

>>737014752
I met women in fucking Maplestory Worlds. Women love cute, social, grind games they can exploit men in.

>>737014420
take it to discord dumbass

>>737014978
I'm betting you met men saying they were women.
Women do not like grind.

>>737014745
I tried out chronostory but that shit plays like ass I don't get how people can pretend that feels fine to play at all.

>>737015007
The discord is containment so that feedback and complaints go fucking nowhere since I doubt they actually listen to feedback forwarded by CMs. Nexon isn't the only company that does this shit.

>>737015023
There are literally women streaming the beta right now.

>>737015059
chronostory is fucking roblox maplestory with turbofucked physics and mechanics, same as artale, mapleland, and nextale, all gross and terrible and awful.
legends and royals are literally just the old source with some fixes applied.

if players are having accuracy problems why not go to monsters they can actually hit

>>737015186
At least with mapleland they are fixing that shit with 2.0 just being their own engine that uses worlds as a frontend. But yeah artale and chronostory are the best we have globally until classic world comes out but they still just feel off to play.

>>737014752
>>737015023
I can tell you've never played classic Maple before, it was full of girls and there are going to be tons of nerdy women wanting to get into Classic for the nostalgia.

>>737015359
>the best we have
????????
no they're not, royals and legends are. They're still terrible because prebb is terrible, but they're the best. worlds is fucking terrible roblox slop, it doesn't matter which game on it, it's bad, it's terrible, it's awful.

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Chance of /v/ guild went from 10/100 to 0/100. I don't think we have enough for more than one trailblazer party, which means having to play with normies most of the time and defeats the purpose of a /v/ guild. The current Classic gameplay loop is fundamentally flawed as no new players will be able to have access to a constant supply of 6 man parties at all level ranges. People will burn out before lvl 100 and won't have more than a small selection of people to party daily with. I'm glad we all went through this dance on private servers before and know better now.

>>737015571
There have been multiple MS threads that have hit bump limit in the past few days and that's not even counting the larger number of anons that just lurk without posting.
I'd be surprised if there aren't enough anons to fill out an entire guild

>>737015748
That would be at first but it's likely not going to persist.
Plus you need Orbis for a guild and Orbis isn't likely going to be in at launch.

the ms /v/ guilds were always filled with shizo's and normalfags who barely made high level characters. The fact you guys proudly name yourselves shit and piss like its funny is just really telling

>>737015571
we will fill multiple guilds man, the game isn't even out yet, there will be more of us once it's advertised more

>>737010921
>streamerfaggotry closed betas
if there's one thing i didn't miss about the 2010s

>>737015338
Even archers are missing

>>737015847
>there will be more of us once it's advertised more
The jannies is going to cry about it and ban anons and "redirect to /vg/ or /vm/" about it...

I was kind of interested but I play the maple idle game now and realized that's good enough for me

>>737016291
literally how
it's THE definition of a slop game, at least nu-maple is an actual game and people here hate it for the sole purpose of hating it
unless you're the stereotypical japanese salaryman with 0 free time and living in a wagie crib I can't comprehend why someone would "play" those

>>737016067
>Archers are missing as well
That's a bad sign of the accuracy calcs then because archers have no business missing since that's meant to be their biggest strength over the others.

>>737013307
>dutch players fucked over
Wtf I love MS classic now

technically this is the second closed beta, because they had the in person event too where they recorded that video

pretty lame, being left out twice

it should have been a few days early access for event goers and streamers and then open beta over weekend

very gay behavior t b q h f a m

Lukless assassin is the new meta

>>737016476
Well accuracy only accounted for so much. There was still damage reduction due to level difference which mattered at level 80+ areas coupled with their high defense already. So I wonder if they have that damage degradation from being a much lower level than a monster you're fighting or if it's the same or if it's a different formula.

As much as I want Classic to release, they definitely need an open beta.
Things are complete ASS to play right now, and it's a shame because the issue is at a fundamental level.
>Potions are impossible to get forcing players to stop and regen regularly, disengaging them from the game
>Accuracy formula changed making grinding not only require tons of potions, but significantly more time
>Quests are nerfed for some reason, facilitating the potion crisis
>KPQ, the most notable social aspect of old Maplestory, has been nerfed for no reason

>>737016476
yeah, I remember being a hunter in OPQ at level 51 and still being able to hit Papa Pixie

>>737016656
The think buffing the shit out of party grinding is somehow more social except it really isn't because you literally just go
>j party
and then get invited and that's literally the full extend of the social interaction.

/ourguy/ wrote down his complaints
>mage is too strong 1st job
>quest/pq exp is BAD
>solo grinding is way worse for exp

>>737016837
>solo grinding is way worse for exp
It's actually not.

Watch GigaTaco's stream. Solo grinding stirges is better than partying anywhere, AND you make way more money.
He got mad as fuck after being duped into leaving the stirge map for partying.

>>737016837
I thought everyone wanted MMOs to be about social interaction? You have to party up to grind now. You got exactly what you've been asking for for 20 years.

I think the main problem with party exp being so high is that it makes unpopular maps even worse and popular maps even better
What if I wanna train in a niche map like monkey forest?

>>737016837
>>737016895
Solo grinding is definitely better, but soloing good maps still outshines partying bad ones

>>737016895
>picks sin despite everyone saying mage is better
>solo grinds despite everyone saying party is better
>ends up actually being better anyway
giga chad meta definers > sheep metaslaves

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>>737016952
>Solo grinding is definitely better, but soloing good maps still outshines partying bad ones

>>737016620
but there was never damage reduction in old mapre, that was a post big bang thing

>>737016917
God damn people find any reason to bitch. If you need a break and want to go somewhere else then go there. You don't need to giga autism sweat lord max all the damn time. Take a break from the game, chill and chat, do quests, go somewhere else to farm. Thinking you need to be the ideal class training in the ideal spots with the ideal party is an autism problem making you too ridged to do anything else because you see it as a waste of time. A waste of time in a Korean grinding MMORPG. Entire game is a time sink.

>>737017046
>go out of the way to do quests
>get 3 mobs worth of xp and half a mob worth of mesos as reward
wow...

>>737016291
Im level 97 on that game, I will be playing both. Been logging in every day to Idle. It scratches an itch. I pay like 2 dollars a month and some change for offline rewards. That away I stay with the pack and have quick ques for most things. I plan on going free once I hit 100 for 4th job

i just spoke with blackgoku and he said classic is slop

>>737016903
>I thought everyone wanted MMOs to be about social interaction?
what do you think pqs are for dumbass?
party training is ass because it makes it harder to begin playing and quitting whenever you want

>>737016903
how is that social? nobody fucking talks to each other you just kill shit solo but together.

I'm gonna play a Paladin or a Hero I don't care if they end up being dogshit

>>737010921
>What are your thoughts and impressions so far?
you'll never be young again

>>737017332
>if

>>737014752
BDO has a decent number of biological women playing it, as in if you join a guild there's probably women in it, and maplestory is a way cuter game so I wouldn't be surprised if it had even more
>b-b-b-ut trannies!
There are more women than trannies on BDO

>>737017313
It's a playtest, sperg.

Hows day 2 of the beta looking so far?

Do you guys think they should add some post-Big Bang content for endgame when the time is right? Or should they keep the vanilla Zakum/Horntail endgame loop?

>>737017595
They are 150% going to go through the existing content and probably stagger in new content every x updates. My guess would be they do major updates on a seasonal cadence (maybe alternating with main line MS? so like major summer is GMS, then fall is classic, winter GMS, spring classic) and every 2 updates they add a new region, since they already said they were doing a new storyline, and that storyline is going to cross over with modern maple's ride or die mapae stuff.

>>737017595
people wont keep playing if zakum and horntail is all there is
even just taking something like guardian angel slime and removing all the gimmicks would fit and be a big addition.

>>737017638
>>737017595
Hit post too early, shit.
I don't think they'll go all the way to big bang. I think if classic lives that long (which is still up in the air at this point) they'll probably diverge overall at that point. If it's successful enough to afford a full on development team, I think a yearly update is not out of the question.

>>737017595
post-BB content was already following BB philosophy of small maps and shit like that so they would need to change a lot of things, just make new content

>>737017595
Idk but I hope they never introduce any of the future henesys or cygnus garden stuff, shit tier giga flat map galore, even cygnus's map is a flat piece of shit. As the other anon said they should just make brand new content. I wouldn't mind seeing high level deep ant tunnel stuff

Thoughts on Classic so far?

>>737018074
Watching streams, it looks fucked

>>737016656
Buffing party xp so much but nerfing PQs is not a good direction to take imo. The former is fake socializing, the latter is at least a little more tangible.

>>737017595
Seasons or leagues that keep the grind alive with a twist and new skills here and there. Path of Maple

>>737018074
i bummed an account from a friend who went to maplecon. Made a cleric,felt pretty fine. Made a warrior, and it became nearly impossible to kill shit. Thought maybe a bowman might be a bit better, and it's only marginal. I really don't like the new accuracy calculations.
I think the potion cost increase and meso adjustments are good. I like things being a bit more scarce.
I don't like how they're probably going to sell potions in the cash shop cause I'm jaded and just don't trust them.
I don't like that KPQ is basically worthless now. They need to multiply the amount of item rewards by like 4x. party play is something I like, and it makes taking over a map feel important and fun, but if you don't socialize I can see why you'd think it's bad.

complaining about needing to party up in an MMO is why MMOs are not popular anymore

>>737012308
>No "Hands" stat.
Fake classic Maple.

>>737018216
there's a new crafting system, retard, cause no one used the old one besides to make work gloves and literally nothing else.

For those saying KPQ isn't good, what about grindKPQ where you just stay on the first stage and grind with the party EXP? Does that make it any better despite the lack of rewards, or would it just be for the folks with potions and money to burn

>>737018246
So you never played OG Maplestory? "Hands" was an unknown stat no one knew what it did for literal years and the only real description we had was from KMS which was vague at best. It only disappeared after the Big Bang update.

>>737018074
They overshot on trying to make accuracy relevant. It’s clear now that this game is nowhere near ready for release.

>>737018319
>unknown
it affected crafting success and this has been known forever.

>>737018323
>recreating maple takes longer than it took to fucking make maple from scratch
these devs are fucking retarded

Damn shame warriors are dog. Still gonna play one.

>>737018323
Wonder how much ChinaMS' classic system will shit on GMS' retarded version.

>>737018413
Pretty sure that only got revealed towards the tail end of pre-BB because we didn't have any use for it until at least 2009 or so. Still, if you're gonna be Classic MS the "Hands" stat should still be there regardless if you're using the new crafting.

FIRST LOOK AT FIRE/POISON:

https://www.twitch.tv/ereklo_game/clip/AffluentCovertLardBibleThump-5q7WTdOxDps_VRxG

>kpq exp is reduced by a shit load
>and reduced even further if you do more than 1 a day
jesus christ

>>737018323
Accuracy should be relevant, but not to the point that an Assassin is building their character like an Archer. Could be the way lucky 7 is balanced since you simply can't dump points into luck.

>>737018709
Accuracy should only be relevant on bosses. There is no reason to have it apply to literal mobs like snails or slimes.

>>737018753
Accuracy was always relevant. It allowed Archers to train at level 90 places in their early 80s and was something warriors had to think about gearing up for their training spots.

>>737013307
why was pq nerfed?

>>737018709
The main issue is that they CASTRATED the conversion of dex/luck into accuracy. If they softened that a little then there wouldn't be a problem.

>>737018526
Poison Breath seems pretty damn good. That's at level 1 as well. It's range seems pretty crazy.

I just realized this game can't work in 2025, there are too many troons and freaks online

>>737018680
>>and reduced even further if you do more than 1 a day
wait what? am i missing something here?

>>737018796
Just make accuracy tied to level and give bosses bonus avoidability that requires investing into accuracy gear or partying with people that boost accuracy

>>737018968
Kobe ran KPQ and got 700~ xp at the end of the first run, but only around 200 xp when he cleared a second time

>>737018996
>Just make accuracy tied to level
that's exactly what they did for Big Bang so no

>>737019013
Thats so fucking shit wth, so nexon really is trying to force people to party grind instead

>>737018526
WHAT
THE
FUCK

Everyone was talking about Fire Arrow but forgot about Poison Bubble

>>737010921
I got reminded real quick that this game sucked and only the community made it great. The magic is gone. Idk why i fell for it

>>737018963
Pretty much, you can never truly go back.

You niggers are really going to complain about every little thing until we eventually have Big Bang 2: Electric Boogaloo, aren't you?

>>737010921
I got reminded real quick that this game sucked and only the community made it great. The magic is gone but mages still dominate, funnily enough. Idk why i fell for it

>>737018996
>Just make accuracy tied to level
that's exactly what they did for Big Bang so no

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Surely you won't play a shitter class, right?

I just don't wanna miss as a fucking bowman

>>737019224
Cleric is not the best class in the game

>>737018963
>2025
someone tell bro......

>>737019042
>>737019186
They already made it so you get a 95% damage penalty if an enemy is 10 levels or greater than your own. Just add the other half of the formula.

Watcher bros how is archer?
Worth taking in the beta or is it like classic maple where mage or bust.

>>737019335
magestory

U ISRAEL?>>737014928

>>737019370
Idiot.

>>737018526
Listening to these wiggers speak is like brain bleed. I can't believe this isn't a bit.

>>737019335
It seems okay for 1st job. Nothing too special. It all depends how good the 2nd job mobbing skills are.

>>737018526
YOOOOOO BRO ITS ACTUALLY FIRE DOE NGL YOOOOOOOOOOOOO NO CAAAAAAAP

Are maple streamers the only streamers that got the beta inv and playing?
This thing's gonna flop

>>737010921
Are they sending the codes out in batches? My email said I'm not getting one until tomorrow.

>>737018526
Despite their fucking screaming, F/P is fucking back bros.

>>737019681
Two, I think.
1000 people total and everyone who didn't get in yesterday is getting in tomorrow.

Congestion worries since only 2 channels I think.

they have a nice foundation but there are still a lot of things to balance

>>737020132
yup hopefully things get fixed for release

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What do we think of the upcoming maple anniversary?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5FjUkyOOaQ

>>737018526
Are these the faces of maplestory in 2026? Wiggers?

>>737020802
The only thing noteworthy about it is that we may get a release date for Classic. Nobody anywhere cares about the anniversary otherwise.

>>737020802
Looking over the notes for this and maybe I'm missing something, but it looks EXTREMELY forgettable. The last anniversary event was nice because it offered a lot of NX items and even produced conclusions to popular classic maplestory quests.
This one seems kinda.. bland?

>>737020860
There's a fun jump quest in there tho
https://www.twitch.tv/isiinggunz/clip/CharmingRenownedKeyboardJonCarnage-7CU_g_XrrV3fyRLT

>>737021202
>>737021043
Isn't that just the same jump quest that was in Saitama's collab?
https://youtu.be/dbsBpCkN0Qk?t=902

>>737021202
>we gon finish
>close tab
who the fuck talks like that?

>>737021202
not playing a dogshit game for one jump quest. there'll be JQs in classic, i think i'll live.

>>737020802
Did Sin and Bow vertical attack tracking get fixed yet? And why are bows prevented from jump shooting?

>>737021202
Yeah my monitor would have a hole in it if that happened to me.

>>737021202
>it just keeps going
Heh.

>>737021357
Seems that vertical range is fine if the enemy is above you, but very poor if they're even a little bit below you.

>>737021271
Yeah but KMS got the anniversary event with the tower first, then the OPM event came out after that and included the tower as a joke. The point is that Saitama can just completely cheese the entire thing while the real version disables skills and locks you to slow movement so you have to actually go through the entire thing properly this time.

>>737020802
Looks generic outside 10% meso drop rate and more sol erda

>>737021202
how it feels to support Nexon games in current year

Classic World releasing on May 11th
Source: I made it up

https://www.spritefan2.com/
Bannedstory is back

>>737019224
I really hope they undo some of the nerfs they made to the other classes. Mages were already one of the best 1st level jobs due to not needing to worry about accuracy. Them cutting Slash Blast from hitting 6 enemies down to 4 feels criminal. Also why is Spearman higher than Fighter and Page? Everything I've seen so far suggests Spearmen were hit the hardest of the three Warrior jobs.

>>737022380
Hyperbody is overvalued still and things like 3 seconds of stun at a 25% proc rate are hard to visualize

>>737022258
Just in time since twow is getting taken down.

Trust me, maple story is complete shit. Not worth your time, final fantasy online is way better graphics if your pc can handle it. I am a pro final fantasy online player and have achieved great feats of power.

>>737022439
Things like stun and freezing is pointless until level 80+ mobs.

>>737022380
that site is vibecoded with AI generated analysis of classes using data from pre-classic world. it's fine for viewing datamined stuff, but any ranking should be ignored. that same site had shields equippable by spearmen.

So what needs to change for Classic based on what you've seen?

>>737022380
Spearman gets free partial stance and a small heal on their final attack, I guess. Rage in its current form is lukewarm, and lmao Threaten.

Anybody got their code?

>>737018526
>level 30
>1600 mesos
>7 blue pots
brutal

>apparently Mages are really OP in the beta
The anti-Magic Guard schizo is gonna FREAK

>>737014194
nothing of this will apply to the game though

Kek, holy shit, even archers for their 2nd job advancement has like a 40% chance to hit. Crazy work going on in here.

>>737022513
It's not about the mobs it's about the bossing

>>737023323
I was watching the dude who's making a crossbowman and that's pretty accurate, he can't fucking hit the 2nd job evil eyes and zombie mushroom, this is NOT ok

>>737023401
What bossing that shit basically doesn't exist

lil bros talking about high level content when theyll quit a month in.

>>737023447
We literally don't know what's being released anon
Even if it's only for LPQ it's still significant and prior to that there's no point in caring about what your class can or can't do.

>>737014194
i really hope that they soft rework CB (and eventually shadower if we get 4th job) for classic, it was one of the most "throw shit at the wall" classes in OSMS and it felt like the devs had no idea what they were doing with the class. meso dropping was always a shit mechanic
if there is one thing I wouldn't mind them downporting from modern for skills, it'd be modern shadower pickpocket (fake meso coins on hit, with an obvious indicator that they're pickpocket coins) with a modified classic version of meso explosion (only explodes fake coins, coins explode where they are left instead of seeking out mobs like modern).

>>737023541
Warrior is acting like he's going to hit the Ludi PQ boss.

accuraccy is completely fucked at the moment

>>737023652
I've not played either version of CB but does meso explosion... explode meso that are not gonna hit anything?

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>>737010921
I hate my life so im going to play the shit out of this.

>>737019224
this tier list reads like it was made by AI

>>737023741
NTA but it's not so much an explosion as it is a missile.
>Toggle for farming meso explosion
>Toggle for bossing meso explosion
>Whenever you attack, special "meso coins" drop (red if they're for bossing)
>When you use meso explosion, these coins home in on the closest monster (or all on the one with the highest HP if they're for bossing)

>>737023760
you don't look like that

Im buying a beta code.....

>>737018680
>Make a big deal about PQs being back
>Nerf them into uselessness
Huh?

>>737023791
refer to >>737022527
every resource right now is vibecoded. the information itself is correct on most of them except the one with the job ranking list, the guy prompting got overzealous. they're all functional with the exception of this one.

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This job advancement is peak comedy.

>>737023741
classic meso explosion
>explodes any meso on the floor that you can loot (mob drops, self drops, etc)
>damage formula is a combination of your stats and the number of mesos dropped
reworked meso explosion (sometime around post-chaos, pre RED I think? I can't remember the exact timeframe)
>explodes pickpocketed meso on the floor
>explosion hits
modern meso explosion
>same as reworked, but now the mesos are heat-seeking missiles that fly across the map

classic pickpocket
>hitting mobs drops miniscule amounts of coins (imagine 10 brown meso coins falling on the floor)
>can pick these up
modern pickpocket
>hitting mobs drops fake meso that is unlootable, can only be used for meso explosion

here are some vids as reference
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pUu-TxzOtko
https://youtu.be/jbtZSMCJ_Gk?t=6

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>>737018680
>people complain about PQs being limited to 1 party per channel
>Nexon listens and changes it
wew

>>737024029
>MISS
>MISS
>MISS
>MISS
make it stop...

>>737018680
>PQs are effectively dailies now
thanks I fucking hate it

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>>737023865
Same. Im waiting for the 16th to roll around so there will be more codes.

Classic is going to die if they don't fix the early game.
It's literally unplayable right now unless you pick mage.

>>737018680
The exp nerf would maybe have been tolerable if you got really good item rewards from kpq but you don't even get good items let alone a good amount.

>>737018680
>you can do PQs whenever you want now, meaning that spamming them would be even more unbalanced than when you had to fight for them
>WTF WHY WERE REWARDS NERFED
you are such a bitch LOL

>>737024232
Honestly considering the new professions, I'd even be alright with KPQing if they offered random basic materials.
Same with LPQ and other PQs.

>>737024209
>tranny with a name like a groomer's poisoning the well asking for aran
NEMI RUN DON'T FALL FOR IT

guess I won't be going page...

fighter it is then

https://www.reddit.com/r/MSClassicWorld/comments/1sluthz/comment/ogb3eo9/

>>737024209
this image has way too much soul

>>737024209
I trust Nemi

>>737024036
Thank you for your help, I thought the skill only exploded mesos that are eligible to hit something (the old version).

>>737024303
Good I don't want to see Pages running around that aren't me

>>737024036
honestly I loved how Artale did it although it really wasn't meso explosion anymore
>pickpocket now applies a stacking debuff
>meso explosion explodes the debuff

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rate my custom (she canonically has big boobs and thick thighs)

>supposed OG mapler youtuber/streamer doesn't know there's a land of the wild boar 2
i always knew he was a fake

>>737024425
that's it I'm going page to spite you now

unless this is a reverse psychology trick and you just want me to suffer?!

>>737024638
are you looking for a boyfriend?

>>737024303
anyone assuming the meta based off of the original game is going to get fucked over
this is a classic+ situation and not a pure copy/paste; the mastery skill changes, shield mechanic changes, and the handful of new skills we got should make this apparent to anyone who has played the game enough to get out of victoria island in the OG or in a private server

as far as we know, they could completely radicalize the warriors at third job to make them less samey; we could see something as goofy as Paladin being reworked into a classic version of MS2 runeblade by doubling down on the original elemental buffs and turning them into stances

>>737024691
He's a real one, should see his ilbi hunting

>>737017313
actually party grinding is the only time i've actually had conversations in this game so far

>>737024862
i did. just doing some light ribbing

>>737012042
Mobbing is overrated. It's okay for some classes to just excel at being mobile with high single target damage.

For anyone playing now. How long does it take to get the beta rewards?

>>737024841
i could see pages getting %chance to keep charge integrated into the base charged blow, which would be a pretty big buff and give them buttons to press that aren't power strike/slash blast
page/wk seems like a good target for buffs

Togain

>>737011778
No way are they doing May. Why is everyone saying that? What even gives you an smidge of hope that they would do that?

>>737011778
absolutely not
maybe if this was a PR CBT where the game is 99% of the way there, but this is an actual test with how fucked some of the formulas are

why is everyone judging everything based purely on 1st job
IMO balance can be fucked for 1st job as long as it gets better in 2nd

>>737025845
If your class can't hit any enemies except snails in first job, chances are you're not sticking it out to 2nd job

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>>737024209
>people asking for Pirates and Aran
Please fucking stop

>>737025882
Nemi made Pirates and they were appropriate
Not cannoneer though

>>737025845
remember, most of the people hitting level 30 on the second day have been playing non-stop, realistically most people would take over a week to get to level 30, and spending a whole week like this just isn't fun

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>>737025882
nu-maple is good, actually

>>737025882
Pirates are pretty much a given at this point, but fuck Aran and any other donut steel "class"

>>737025882
Anything beyond Pirates is unnaceptable.

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Do we have any idea what time/timezone codes might be going out? Do we know what time they went out to the Maplecon attendees yesterday?

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>ruins your nostalgia

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>>737025882

>>737025845
to be fair, the second job advancement having fucked up evade stats is absolutely something worth judging over

Speaking of classes, would you be against new exclusive classic classes to the game as long as it remains true to the ethos of "Classic"? Realistically does the GMS team even have the resources to produce something like that?

>>737026440
I'd be fine with that and it wouldn't even be unexpected
>does the GMS team even have the resources to produce something like that?
Yes. In fact GMS has a track record of having unique classes and exclusive classes. The whole Shine branch of classes (Sia, Erel Light, whatever that archer is called) are different in 6th job compared to other classes specifically because it's a "non-KMS class".
I can easily see them doing Classic classes and then "revamping them" for modern later on

>>737026440
yes, GMS is capable of it
they could realistically downport some of the modern classes with minor reworks

I got accepted into the petit planet closed beta before I got my code for maplestory classic beta

>>737026440
I'd prefer to see additional classes be worked in as new branches for the original four classes. Like Pirates could be reworked as a third subclass for Rogues alongside Assassins and Bandits. There's only so many "class archetypes" and stat combinations that can be done in OSMS without major overlap causing one class to completely outperform another at its "job" (e.g. single-target dps, mobbing, healing/buffing). New classes are an easy way to generate hype and always bring people back to try them out but I think they really get away from the ethos of "Classic Maplestory". I would much rather see them add more build variety among the existing classes, which they seem to be trying to do with some of the skill changes and fact that you can't max every skill for each job.

>>737026510
modern classes try to be way too unique with their exclusive mechanics and such that are too far off from classic's philosophies so most of them couldn't be de-made for classic even if you stripped away their "character" status

ones I can see POSSIBLY having potentials of being fitting after de-makes are:
>old Cygnus
>battle mage
>cannoneer
>dual blade (if they make the distinction between it and shadower clear without mogging shadower)
>Evan's playstyle of combining spells to create a stronger attack (not the class itself)
>Shade's spirit monk theme
>Lara/Ho Young's nature magic theme

also, as for thieves we could potentially create a new branch that uses a chain or a chakram as the weapon

>>737026785
nice, now if only the quality of the game was as good as their animations and artstyle

sex with nemi

>>737027360
the music certainly is of even higher quality
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7iRkbo0EpW4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tE5p3f32uq4

>>737026440
As long as those exclusive classes don't push ClassicMS into a direction that it can't ever recover from
>Double/Flash Jump on everyone
>Streamlined flat maps
These were some of the few things that led to modern maple as we know it.

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>>737024209
Cute and hopefully the adjustments aren't too hard to implement

>>737027535
nemi kinda cute ngl

>>737027304
+blaster

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I understand that event goers got the invitation codes, but some fuckass streamers? Total streamers death.

>>737027304
this but add hayato too
you could also steal some of kaiser's attacks for a hypothetical OC 4th job for dragon knight/dark knight

>>737027834
Almost all of the streamers playing the game did go to events

>>737027689
I'll actually take it a step further,
Genesis/map wide-AOE spam introduced with 4th jobs needs to go away period.

>>737027880
I cast death upon them anyway

>>737012308
>make sins unplayable
>make bowman unplayable (no jumpshot)
unfathomably retarded

They should bring the Maplestory Home feature into Classic.

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>>737013307
>>>dutch players fucked over and can't trade

>>737027304
>old cygnus
absolutely the fuck not, they were copy/pastes that were deliberately overpowered in the earlygame while becoming absolutely useless lategame
anyone who has played a private server in the last 15 years knows that cyggers are a bad idea
>battle mage
acceptable, it was designed with preBB in mind
>cannoneer
acceptable as long as they tune down the hitbox size on certain attacks and change some skills
>dual blade
acceptable, give it a soft rework to make it more different from shadower (which is likely already getting its own soft rework as it is) and avoid doing cash shop bullshit
>evan-like class
a magical combo class could be nice, but desu I see a reworked classic+ OSMS paladin overlapping here
>shade/lara/hoyoung
they can be in but they might as well be completely different classes in-name only

So lemme get dis str8 yte boi
Classic is launching with only second job adv? Or is that just beta, and its 3rd on launch?
What content is there even to do?
Zoomies will 'beat' this game literally within a few weeks and then move on to something that's getting updates and has bosses or something to do

>>737028718
>Zoomies will 'beat' this game literally within a few weeks
level 70 took me several months back then

>>737015571
Just recruit normies you dumb cunt
Most zoomies are racist incels anyways so it shouldn't be too difficult

Do we know what servers they'll launch with? Any sheet reference with time zones?

They haven't said anything about third jobs yet, so we can only speculate about after the closed beta, same with vic island only.
What we do know is that it's absolutely filtering modernfags and pserver brainrot fags.
The only people even high enough level to advance to second job are the sweatiest of the sweatlords.

They will be reminded what it means for the grind to begin at lv1, to be destitute spending all your money on pots, and they will be filtered.

>>737029037
Am I a modernfag if I have a legion of 10500?
I played since the beta on-and-off and still have the mark of beta, but I switched to Reboot.

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>>737016656
>give streamers access 2 days before the beta beta because fuck you I guess unless you're a cocksucker
>decide to nuke archers and sins because fuck you I guess
>made job advancement cheesable
>going to make everything else ezscape and cater to nufaggot NEWBS who fucking SUCK
private servers are genuinely better than what nexon is fucking doing rn. It's genuinely pathetic
At least classic WoW had a solid 1-2 years of fun, Classic Maple won't have ANY fun because wizet is RETARDED

>>737015571
I'm gonna say it. MapleStory /v/ guilds are always dogshit.
If you want to play with anons, just post in a thread for parties or play with anons you've befriended in other games.

>>737029207
>jojoposter
>retarded
yerp... pick two...

>>737029037
>to be destitute spending all your money on pots
this and figuring out how to overcome this issue is something i miss dearly about old mmos. the struggle of being poor was kinda fun, then eventually you don't need to worry about pot costs anymore and that feels like progression in itself

>>737029280
>nigger
>faggot
nigger... faggot...

>>737029207
it's not streamers, it's people who showed up to the physical convention

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>>737010921
I remember getting a sin from 1 to 35 over a weekend during Summer break. I think Omega Sector was getting released for the first time so I remember Dark Sighting to see how far I could get and then quiting shortly after. Those were the days.

This whole project feels directionless. It's a given that it's a cynical release whose main motivator is another revenue stream (it's Nexon after all) but I was at least hoping it'd be somewhat well-managed. They've chosen such weird things to stubbornly stick to like a lack of early game resources and an extremely slow grind while implementing the weirdest balance changes and doing truly confounding shit like nerfing KPQ. Not to mention the general lack of communication and insanely slow pace of news and updates, I can't imagine there's more than like 12 people working on this. And now that a (slightly) larger audience than some shills attending an IRL event have finally gotten their hands on it, it sincerely doesn't seem ready to release somehow despite being a year out from the announcement. Maybe on a technical level it's working, but it seems like a cut and paste job with a smattering of balance changes that seem so random I can't even tell what they're trying to accomplish with them.

Still gonna play the shit out of it. I just wish it would just come out asap, not even because I'm desperate to clock hours so much as the wait doesn't seem like it'll be worth it given the glacial pace of dev combined with how meh the balance changes are turning out to be.

Will I get to talk to ambiguously aged female teens over the phone again though?
People casually giving out phone numbers was some shit back then.

>>737018423
there's no way it took nexon 2 years to make maplestory

Dreamscape, Breaking Benjamin, MS classic. Home.

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>>737029550
The closed test so far has given me the image that they'll run an open test. Some of the issues are likely not that hard to adjust and fix, but I'm also afraid some would require similar sort of a test ground.
I'm also hoping for a soon release as I want to clock in the hours.
>>737029859
We're going home... soon... maybe

>>737028903
>Lvl 70 took me several months as a down syndrome toddler who knew nothing
The game is solved
Most gamers will hit cap within 3-4 weeks and there'll be fuckall to do but goon

when are the gooks sending out my key it is already the 16

>>737030301
>Most gamers will hit cap within 3-4 weeks and there'll be fuckall to do but goon
this applies to every single mmo since 2012

>>737030301
you clearly never played old maple

any axe fighter reach lv30 yet? I want to see how bleed works

>>737030352
If they do it around their time(PDT) and similar to the launch on 14th then it's going to be like 10-14h from now

>>737030301
That is a player mindset issue that no game developer has the power to fix.

>>737030301
my man, no game has infinite content for people who play 24/7, not even MMOs, and specially not a remake of a 20yo MMO
GMs should not make a game for that 1% of players

>>737030547
it probably works like every other dot in the game

>>737030547
I'm more interested in how the Pages utilize their stun

>>737030727
I meant Nexon, not GMs, obviously

do we know if INT = 1 M.Att or does it work more like Att stat in this ?

>>737030804
The formula changed making lukless pointless

>>737030727
>WoW Classic lasted 2 years
>OSRS lasted 4 years
>MapleClassic doesn't even have 1 months worth of content
my man, this shit is dead assholes.

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Which of these should be brought over to classic?

>>737030878
Haunted House and CWK are both core classic maps, albeit very late into its life

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Send me my key already REEEEEEEE

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>>737030878
https://youtu.be/AfsNt5oZrqw?si=fMlsOZDpaOrOL95D

>>737030878
Definitely not Singapore, that map completely broke the game's balance with their overpowered mobs

>>737030946
Im prison mike. I’m going to hack your ip address and deliver everything you want and more. I’m driving there right now, I accomplished the backtracing of your post history in mere moments and am driving to your house duder to deliver everything you need.

>>737030959
>Mysterious Path 3 needs a map layout overhaul.
>Ulu City really needed stronger/harder hitting monsters to offset the high EXP.
>Krexel needed to be buffed because that fucker was just too easy to farm since he barely did shit.
Under the assumption Singapore is brought over since it is considered classic even if it led to profound exp problems later. I have no idea why the MapleSEA stuff was barely threatening against the players outside of Targa and Scarlion.

I forgot to register for CBT...

>>737016656
>>Potions are impossible to get forcing players to stop and regen regularly, disengaging them from the game
This is literally the point of maplestory. Stand around at the hangout spot in HHG1 and chat for five minutes while regening MP to kill more mushies.

>>737031314
>This is literally the point of maplestory.
No the fuck it's not
Are you retarded?

>>737028718
dont worry anon i promise you can get 3rd job as soon as you make it to el nath :)

korean guy made a guide for common english maple terms for the koreans vpning and playing on our server.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6itadmNb_E

>>737030878
Unironically none. I place Classic's spiritual cutoff the moment Wizet was officially dissolved which was during Aqua Road

>>737031075
>Krexel needed to be buffed because that fucker was just too easy to farm since he barely did shit.
Krexel was fucking weird. It was braindead to farm, but it was basically an HP sponge that dropped jack shit. It was okay exp if you had fat damage, but most people would go farm mobs instead of marching their asses over to Krexel anyway.

>>737030804
They've changed the formulas around, but magic attack one is a bit conflicting info. It is not 1int=1matt and they've also changed some of the scrolls so you are not getting nearly as much total matt so easily anymore. Early on mages are still really good and especially because they aren't having problems with the accuracy like others are currently in the closed test.
Other classes are likely to even out as they get access to mastery and 2nd job skills so their damage becomes more consistent.