because it's a fucking you dumb cunt

>>737043736
Money

>>737043736
Money. SE has been shitting the bed for years so they're gonna milk the one thing that might make them any money

>>737043736
Because they took the he fan base for granted, and assumed they'd make a fuck ton exploiting that base
Serves square right

Because they decided to expand on the original a lot, and they have investors to satisfy. A 15 year dev-cycle and a 500gb game release isn't the brightest idea.

>>737043772
>because it's a fucking (you)
thanks.

Remember when they actually wanted to make it a single coherent game, but possibly released in multiple parts, and then people *complained* about that and demanded it be turned into three different games instead?

It's your fault for this happening.

>>737044016
Normies love trilogies

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Why the FUCK is everyone utterly unable to kill the bad guys? Are they retards?

>Turks cause the Sector 7 thing
>have them at your mercy like 4 seperate times
>let them go each time

>have the fat rapist guy at your mercy
>let him walk away
im beginning to understand why people have such a low opinion of JRPGS. This is just mind boggelingly stupid. Its really hard to feel any sympathy when bad things happen to these people, when the bad things only happen because of utter protagonist stupidity.

>>737043736
They lost the technology and don't know how to make games anymore

>>737043836
do you actually make more money on this as opposed to one FF7 Remake that you keep porting? Because they are the only ones doing this type of remake. Everyone else makes it one game and SE complains about sales not hitting their targets.

>>737043736
They had a good reason at the end of Remake with the "the unknown journey continues", but they ignored that and just followed the original games plot instead because they're creatively bankrupt hackfrauds.

>>737044117
In the original it made sense, the remake is utter dogshit

>>737043736
Nomura REALLY wanted to make his World of Versus Epic project, Kitase said "ok so do it in FFVII since sales are guaranteed with this one."
Sales were not, in fact, guaranteed.

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>>737044117
>cloud literally about to kill a turk (in the original game people actually died when the plate dropped. the turks killed 1000s of people including their friends)
>dumb whiny meak cunt demake tifa chimes in
>nooo croudoo! you can't kill her she's a main character. she's in too much marketing material.. stop it croudo you're scarring meee uwu

>>737043736
Because there was no way they'd be able to complete a full game in 5 years what with their obsession with cutscenes.

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>>737043736
I’m so glad they aren’t going to pull this shit for the FFIX remake, if that’s even still happening.

>>737044360
The 7R timeline clones really are the most dumb vapid anime drones ever. They have not even half the IQ points of the real FF7 cast.

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>>737044117
Funniest part of Rebirth is when edgy Cloud ends that one Shinra soldiers life by launching him and cutting him open mid fall, and Barret and Tifa proceed to be shocked by this act of violence, despite the entire gang killing hundreds of these cunts during the game.

>>737043736
They were taking notes from Blizzard.

>>737044376
>Tifa stops Clound from killing that Turk
>literally next memory scene of Tifas dead father
>Shinra, Soldiers, i HATE them all
This annoyed me to no end.

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Was the walking dead the beginning of 'episodic' gaming?

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>>737043854
It didn't make enough money though. Every FF7remake side project they announced got cancelled or is in eos.

>>737044582
theres a difference between being a sadist that enjoys killing than doing it in self defense
they are not surprised at the killing, its about Cloud acting unusually bloodthirsty, did you even pay attention to the cutscenes?

New content just dropped in EC, why aren't there threads about it?

>>737044894
Siren: Blood Curse did it before walking dead. I'm sure someone else did it before that too

Why do these remakes have a tone of a humorous circus act with farting clowns?

>>737049386
Nothing much was revealed, it was just FFVII
at least we see diamond weapon design but...it was just diamond weapon

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>>737043736
What was happening with the Harbinger whisper we defeat at the end of remake? What fate did we change?

>be eco terrorists
>kill hundreds of shinra and civilians with multiple sleeper cells working to destroy civilization
>blow up a fucking mako reactor and kill millions of people
>uwu cloud dont kill someone story related thats like bad and stuff uwu

they are literal villains that have killed so many innocent people just in the opening of hte fucking story and then act like they are good guys and some moral heroes on high ground. typical leftist slop.

I knew the games were shit as soon as I started seeing "I'm having a blast" posts about it on release. They even had the audacity to larp as boomers that claimed they played the OG on release and that the Refakes were miles better. Just atrocious.

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Imagine a ff6 remake

>>737053792
I played FF7 in 90s. I bought FF7 Remake on release and had jar of weed to go with it and I had good time. I bought FF7 Rebirth on release and had jar of weed to go with it and I had good time again. I will buy the 3rd part on release and going to make sure I have jar of weed to go with it.

>>737053914
>>737044434
I'm sorry but 6 and 9 are not that good. They are good, but 5, 7, 8 and 10 are simply better.

>>737053958
>I need to be high to enjoy slop
You don't say?

>>737054008
ff7 is a literal rehash of ff6 plot and story beats and characters done worse for retards.

>>737053958
jesus christ. cringiest thing ive ever read. Your wife is fucking a nigger as you are zonked out on “weed dude” playing final fantasy 7 the multiverse sequel. please tell me you havent procreated.

>>737054008
8 is borderline terrible
7 has Sephiroth, who gets BTFO easily in the villain department by Kefka. Sephiroth is not a good villain

>>737053051
Aerith's fate, she's coming back in part 3. They just had to play it cool in Rebirth and leave it ambiguous.

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>>737044216
>>737045058
Wanting to make more money ≠ Making more money

>The reason why did they thought it was a good ideia cut one 70dol game into three 70dol games?
Money
>Did they succeed?
No

>>737044615
yes it's disneyfied anime trash now

>>737054032
>>737054173
I love dopamine and enjoying myself

>>737054063
>>737054195
Which one is more popular, FF7 or FF6? Thanks.

>>737055068
based. i bet you pleasure yourself to pornography on cannabis as well. Its over. Might as well get high, jerk it to porn, and play vapid high production garbage on your nintendo switch.

>>737055142
FF6 now since Rebirth flopped so hard
sub-1M sales is not popular
the VII golden goose has finally been cooked by trite anime ubislop garbage

>>737053958
weed is making you dumb

>>737055214
I have a wife and I make money drawing fetish art.

>>737055323
Nope, me smoking weed makes you dumb

>>737055334
what is the fetish

>>737055142
billions of flies eat shit every day. doesnt make it good.

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>>737053914
It seems like they've already been remaking 6 in the dumbest ways possible ever since.

>>737055562
Hey, I'm not saying FF6 or FF9 are bad. They just aren't as good as the better FFs 5, 7, 8 and 10. I wouldnt tell anyone to skips FF6 or FF9, I would just warn them of FF9's slooooow battle transistions and characters in battle taking forever to go from idle to executing the command. And of course I would warn them how both 6 and 9 lack in player agency compared to the better FFs

>>737055808
>muh player agency
>in final fantasy
Might as well be comparing different varieties of onions
6 is also unironically the only game of the 5 with any narrative differences based on player choices given Shadow and the World of Ruin for that matter

>>737055231
Funny how v's take on 6 / 7 changes over time depending on stereotypes about their respective fans.

>>737056020
>narrative differences
Calm down. I'm talking about the gameplay. 5, 7, 8 and 10 have more customization and replay value. 6 has good story. Its gameplay is just not as good as the better FFs.

If FF6 is your favorite, good for you! I enjoyed it too. I just enjoyed the FFs I mentioned more. No need to get your panties in twist.

>>737053958
>I need drugs to enjoy this game

Sounds about right.

>>737043736
They're sequels, not remakea

>>737050598
Isn't it the perfect remake people want? There should be more discussion about it

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>>737043736
>Why did these retards decide to stretch out 1 game into 3?
If we're looking on the bright side, they genuinely thought they could deliver a game that was worth releasing what was originally 1 game as 3 games, and that people would be hype about it because it's Final Fantasy fucking VII. Unfortunately, they gave it partly to Nomura, and Nomura has been bastardizing Final Fantasy since Kingdom Hearts. He needs to be removed from Final Fantasy, or reverted purely to a character designer.

If we're being realistic and looking on the bad side, they wanted to milk their remaining fans for all they were worth. And hey, it's working. Remake sold a bunch but Rebirth didn't sell anything except to the diehard fans who were always going to like it no matter what it was.

>>737058590
>/v/
>discussing vidya

Where do you think you are?

>>737043736
For the same reason they decided to name a Compilation sequel with time travel and alternate timelines a "remake" when it's anything but.

>>737054008
10 is utter dogshit and the beginning of the end.

>>737058828
>that pic
>the price gets lower for each game
Only untruthful thing about that pic.

>>737058590
Unfortunately 7R killed off the last goodwill SE had. Nobody cares about FF7 now other than the hyperfixated autists whose obsession with the characters stops them from moving on.

>>737059158
Shut up retard

>>737059051
Wrong. It was good.

it should have been two games, not three but it absolutely could not have been one game.

>>737059158
Sadly true

>>737059158
Calling it a Remake when it's anything but really pissed me off.

>>737058590
Proof no one would have given a shit if it was a straight remake.

>>737059853
We will get it as one game when it's bundled together.

>>737060784
SE never did that. Not even with the Tomb Raider games.

>>737060784
>"buy 300 hours worth of FFVII for the low low price of $150!!"
What were they THINKING?

I heard Cloud cried like a little bitch when the whore died.

We have threads about how shit 7R is
every
single
day.

This proves SE made the right choice. A straight remake wouldn't have been posted about at all.

>>737043736
The real crime is the over reliance and prioitization of combat to the complete detriment of the rest of game.
The battles should load into a proper battle field like in the original game. That way you could design proper dungeons worth exploring, instead of running through giant empty linear corridors and locking every useful item away in the dumb ass combat simulators. Just look at the cruise ship with its ridiculous giant rooms designed to accommodate monster battles and having six or seven characters running through.

>>737061097
That's like saying XV is good game because Barry made threads about it for 15 years.

>>737060961
It will be 90 dollars tops, and the length is the reason it was split in the first place.

>>737060868
>Kingdom hearts bundle

>>737049386
>>737050598
>>737058590
>>737060584
Best of luck with this, anon.
Signed: A Friend.

>>737054195
Kefka vanishes during the second half of the game, I have no idea why people like him so much

>>737061097
>We have threads about how shit 7R is
ah yes 4chan, the most objective site ever

>>737061368
>and the length is the reason it was split in the first place
That's not how that works, anon. It could have easily been one game if they simply removed all the bloat and checklists and minigames.

>>737061436
Oh yeah. I forgot about that mess.

>>737061513
In their minds that was never a possibility. It's why they said a remake of 6 would be much longer than 7. Because to them remakes are about expanding every aspect of the original.

>>737043736
>Why do drug dealers dilute their product?

>>737061505
It'll be okay anon. In heaven nobody will call 7R bad. Then we can finally be at ease.

>>737043736
This game had thirteen hours of cut scenes and all of it was garbage.
It was absolutely painful to get through. There is no way I'm going through that again.

>>737061521
>get more games for a lower price
>mess

>>737061097
I wish it was more different. The reason I'm malding is because they set up an interesting situation in Remake, and then failed to deliver on that promise in Rebirth.
Rebirth is a cowardly game.

>>737061097
Are all the threads ragebaiting then? Why not make threads of the OG instead?

>>737061907
Aeris content was good.

>>737062138
We occasionally do, and we have pretty decent discussion about it. Mostly boils down to who was in control, Sephiroth or Jenova.

>>737062061
I also was excited to see the unknown journey become a wild ride once the whispers were destroyed and fate became uncertain, but when I played Rebirth and saw that didn't happen I realised that Rebirth did exactly what I was hoping for, even if it was the opposite of what I'd previously hoped. It was perfect.

>>737062138
>ragebaiting
Why would it be ragebaiting? You'd only be ragebaited by people calling 7R shit if you were one of the few people autistic enough to like it. And those people are usually too busy in kingdom hearts threads.

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>>737053914
I've imagined it every which way you can already, as is, HD-2D, 3D, loyal, expanded, the 90% of the story on the cutting room floor reintegrated, re-imagined, following sprite art, based on the SGI demo, everything including environments in Amano style etc. I'm 100% certain Square-Enix would rape it and also 100% certain I would buy it anyway. Maybe I would even start to enjoy my anger.

It's the Holy Grail. It could be made perfect and beautiful, moving beyond belief, but it won't happen and they won't even try.

>>737062216
No. It wasn't.

>>737062291
all true fans feel the same way

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>>737062372
>I'm 100% certain Square-Enix would rape it
My opinion is that VI is already one of the lesser entries into Final Fantasy and that they game its fans imagine that it is does not actually reflect the game that it actually is when one plays it. VI is in a state where any remake would be better than the game that it is.

>>737062291
What are you hoping for the third game?

>>737062547
This is really disappointing. I was hoping they would cut the Scarlet/Tifa slap fight. It just seems like a strange reduction of two really powerful characters for the sake of leaning into a gendered cliché and a little too silly for me to find ‘funny’

>>737062372
The problem is they would make it 6 games instead of 3. But I would probably buy it, too.

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>>737062547
Lazy slapfight

>>737062547
That slap fight is pathetic, there's no energy behind it.

>>737062372
If you disliked anything about a VI remake it would be your fault, not SEs, because you imagined the original wrong.

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>>737044434
I'm playing 8 for the first time right now and it genuinely sucks. Might have the worst cast of characters of any JRPG I've ever played, the story is a literal nothing burger and the gameplay gimmick is cool but ruined by how unbelievably easy the game is. 8 is worse than 7 in every single way.

>>737062895
welp. I'm out.

>>737062887
Everyone heard you the first time

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>>737062547
Not even when they keep it people are happy

>>737062921
Go GF menu, choose abilities. You can now see you can actually choose which skills the GF learn and in which order. Teach Refine skills to make spells from items and items from cards.

>>737062547
nice sky.

>>737044117
It's so fucking weird how the game can't take its own plot seriously so in the end neither could I.

>>737062380
It was. It expanded on Cloud's feelings for her and made you see why he is so hurt by her death, as well as hope for their reunion.

>>737043736
>announce one game during the PS4
>releases during the PS6
this is why, they do parts because otherwise they'd dump a decade+ of time and money into one release which would be disastrous if it flopped.

>>737063229
I fucking hate that anime cringe shit.

>>737063015
There are people who will hate whatever SE do, but thankfully there are people like you and me who will love and defend whatever they do, so it balances out

>>737053914
I don't want modern square to touch anything to be honest. They're only going to turn it into atrocious whiny Disney teenie garbage.

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>>737062931
This is who we're dealing with. He actually believes it.

>>737063575
jesus fuck thats embarrassing. im glad hes being made fun of for saying this.

>>737062931
>>737063575
>>737062742
definitely not the same poster, but 3 people :)

The tears of FFVI fans are what keeps VII on top.
IXfags are equally delusional it's hilarious

>>737056402
>7, 8 and 10 have more customization and replay value
Illusory choice because characters have at most two correct builds.

>>737044894
not even the first time Telltale did it. They did it for Sam and Max Saves the World first I'm pretty sure.

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>>737043736
>why did these retards stretch it into 3 discs?

>>737063767
Your (You), you've earned it

>>737063646
Actually I am REALLY NOT OK with this take being mocked

>>737058886
Make sure to call it a demake while you're at it so you can sleep at night.
VII haters are pettier than 13 year old girls it's fascinating

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>>737062742
That thing has been Nomura's fap material since 1993(=97-4)
https://arch.b4k.dev/v/thread/720119167/#720158848
https://arch.b4k.dev/v/thread/711964703/#711966165

and it's literally the only reason why both Aoyama Misao(= Tifa) and Sakurazawa Kaori(= Scarlet) knockoffs were shoved into ff7 universe.
Even though they are still trying to whitewash that blandass pornbait by cutting off her TOSHIMA ONNA!! line
>>>/vg/563737580
which was as well copied from that Hgame Nomura jizzed over back then.

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>>737058828
The remakes are a good commentary on a script that was never very good to begin with. Nostalgiafags can't process this.

>>737059087
It's more truthful than you think.

>>737059690
Nope.

>>737061097
Because as we all know Resident Evil (2003) was utterly forgotten about the day it came out, hasn't been talked about for 20 years and isn't held as the golden standard for how to make a remake of a game.

>>737064158
Don't ruin this, I am 100% certain this EC thing is the gotcha I've been praying for. Finally all remake haters will be destroyed.

>>737064037
Ok. What did you like about it? Everyone can call game shit but to make sure you are legit, tell me what you liked about it?

I'm gonna give Rebirth another playthrough and see if I'll like it this time. First time I did everything and started hating the game around the Junon area. This time I'll just play it like an action game on dynamic difficulty and ignore all the side content. Nothing is gonna fix the plot but maybe I'll have fun with the gameplay.

>>737064010
If you think that's good, how about this for a mystery: What's with the guy in these threads who gets off on women being beaten, lied about being married, is very autistic and in his 40s, and gets pissed off if anyone makes fun of this take >>737063575 even though he personally loves the slap fight more than anything else in FF7 (before of the women beating)

>>737063820
But you bought them all at the same time and played through them as one game.

>>737064352
kek i find funny that you have make up all of this just to enjoy a videogame

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>>737044894
Square themselves did episodic FF prequels and sequels and original FF games for mobile phones and Wiiware all the way back in mid 2000's.

>>737063820
It was mostly the FMVs, actually.

>>737064278
All reasonable people are able to say things they liked or disliked about any game they loved or hated. Unfortunately there are people in the FF fanbase like Barry or BA7RY who find this simple task impossible.

>>737064415
Schizo post, disregarded

>>737064434
That's why the ba7ry test works every time

>>737064354
Tldr lil gup

>>737064354
I'm married and I draw commission art of Tifa and other anime and vidya babes getting beaten

>>737063575
How do men end up like this

>>737064558
Cool but you didn't explain why you get upset about the tweet being made fun of

>>737064415
I just want to understand why some people like the game so much because I didn't. Trying to play it like an rpg was miserable so maybe playing it like an action game is where the fun is at.

>>737064673
Im sure there are many reasons. Ive seen people enjoying bad games in here.

>>737064278
>to make sure you dislike a game, tell me what you liked
If I liked it I wouldn't dislike it Rajeesh, learn to fucking read
>noooooo you need to like *something*
Want me to say the most indifferent thing like "the soundtrack" or "the Sphere Grid"? Would that satisfy your autism over the shit melodramatic plot and characters, or the hallway maps?

>>737064668
Oh, the guy who posted that is Jimbo. He's been on his crusade against FF7R since 2020 and he spends daily shitposting about it and posting copy pastas like the slapfight copypasta. He doesn't like to be acknowledged so I make him seethe by informing others of him.

>>737064860
I wonder why FF attracts so many schizos

>>737064785
Just any thing you genuinely liked. If you didn't like anything, you come off insincere. I'm sure you can name 5 things that you liked about it.

>>737064860
And how many people have you successfully convinced to care about this so far?

>>737064946
None so far but I've only been exposing him for 5 years. I'm optimistic about the next 5 though.

>>737065001
Oh... well, good luck with it.

>>737064860
But you didn't explain. Making fun of that tweet isn't anti-7R posting. I'd call it anti-fag posting. The slap fight will probably be in remake like it was in EC. Your post makes no sense.

>>737064946
I dunno. There are more people lurking than posting so I'm sure enough people see through his monkey dance

>>737064926
Yeah wouldn't wanna come off insincere to a random schizo on /v/ - Video Games.

>>737065150
Great! So, 5 things you liked about FF10 despite the game not being to your liking?

>>737065146
But why does making fun of this take >>737063575 bother you? Thats what I dont understand. Especially since youre a ryona fan.

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>>737043736
Between the two games Ive probably put in 240 hours. Ive really enjoyed playing them, Im glad they did it this way.
I also enjoy not knowing what will happen with the story after playing FF7 20 times over 3 decades.

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>>737043736
>Why do high-fidelity games take longer to develop than low-fidelity games?
I bet you also wonder why there are three Lords of the Rings movies instead of only one.

Hint: You are retarded.

>>737065248
It's impossible for me to answer that. I'll dodge this question 100 times, maybe more, if I have to.

>>737065372
>I bet you also wonder why there are three Lords of the Rings movies instead of only one.
because there were three books?

>>737065248
The guy's been shitposting and copypasting daily for over 5 years and hates having thread fame which he kicks and screams against and tries to squirm he totally wasn't doing it and if he was he was being ironic. So he just needs to take it.

>>737053958
>Anon enjoys playing video games
>Cussed out by the board
lol, lmao even

>>737065442
Ok you are just repeating yourself and skirting around actually answering the question
>>737065376
Apparently

>>737065442
And you're the only person who cares? Why do you think you're so bothered by it when nobody else is?

>>737065615
You think I can let him away with making fun of this tweet? >>737063575
I wasn't okay with it 5 years ago and I'm still not ok with it.

>>737065615
I just dislike dishonesty. If Jimbo came clean and admitted how many hours he has used to pretend to be retarded, he... well he would still come off retarded but at least he would be honest about it.

>>737063798
The Homestar runner point and click was episodic too

>>737065724
>I just dislike dishonesty
But you lied about being married. But at least you didn't lie about being in your mid 40s and very autistic. You admit that and I admire you for it.

>>737065783
? I am married. Is being married something unrealistic to you? Are you a virgin?

>>737065839
Props for not denying being in your mid 40s and very autistic. I hope your wife doesn't mind that you've wasted several years "outing" an anon on 4chan for... making fun of a tweet calling the tifa scarlet slapfight problematic.

>>737043736
Maximize profits. It's a corporate run project. The actual gamers and those who would want to give a remake true justice are at the bottom of the pecking order, as intended.

>>737066026
Kek

>>737066026
So is that "yes" on you being virgin?

>>737044360
In the original you had the option to fight the Turks one final time and you still didn't fucking kill those bastard criminals. You win the final duel against the Turks and they walk away alive. Trash. And I hate how Rufus was revived in Advent Children. I just hate this shit about forgiving villains and criminals. The only villain that died in the original FF7 is Corneo if you do the Wutai sidequest and the only reason Corneo dies is he's a fat ugly bastard. For crying out loud not even Hojo dies in the original FF7 because Dirge revived him.

>>737044586
I'm shocked even more games didn't do that shit after they did it

>>737066121
Duel means 1vs1. The last Turks battle was 3vs3

>>737066121
Scarlet and Heidegger died in Proud Clod that exploded after you beat it

>>737066106
Juju, you are in your mid-40s, deeply autistic, and wasted years of your life having autistic spats on 4chan with anyone who will give you any attention at all. You bite down and cling on for hours, every single time. You are an old man and a lolcow.
And no, I'm not a virgin. Congrats on the "wife" though. I'm sure she's very happy.

>>737066418
I dunno, you sound virgin and you got mad when the topic was brought up. Are you virgin with rage as CWC used to say?

>>737066546
Sure, you caught me. Add it to your "expose"
Maybe it's just the ingredient you need to finally make someone else care.
I'm sorry I made fun of that tweet calling the slapfight problematic. I shouldn't have done it.

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>>737053914
The Pixel Remaster of VI is the closest we're getting to an HD 2D remake. But I won't turn this into yet another discussion of which the best version to play is.

>>737066685
So you admit you been doing this for 6 years and you are a virgin :D Damn, son...

>>737066773
I make fun of you with facts about you. You have to make things up to make fun of me. Says a lot, doesn't it?
>I just hate dishonesty!
lol, go spend some time with your wife for once. I think you like talking to me more than her.

>>737066875
Aye, virgin boy. See you tomorrow :D

What Is The BA7RY Test?

Firstly, who is Barry? Barry is a XV fan who combs 4chan for posts criticizing XV to reply to. In his mind, every criticism of XV is wrong, no matter how big, small, reasonable or unreasonable. It's all wrong, and he will set you straight on that matter.
Unfortunately, FFVIIR has its own Barry, named BA7RY, who acts in the same way. He's hard to miss. Do you suspect he's ITT? Then apply the BA7RY test. It's simple!

Just ask him: "What would be a valid criticism of VIIR?"

Barry would never criticize XV, even slightly. And BA7RY will never criticize VIIR either. This simple test lets you know if you're talking to a reasonable person who is capable of discussion, or a wall of fanboy autism who will never give an inch and is only here to tell you that you're wrong wrong wrong!
If your anon replies reasonably, he passes the BA7RY test. If he immediately chimps out and starts screaming about boogymen, BINGO! That's a BA7RY! After all, Barry's favourite tactic was to call everyone Nathan. Because only one person ever called out Barry, right?
Try it yourself!

>>737043736
Milking the retards who worship one of the worst entries into the franchise as of it's some kind of holy symbol.

>>737067001
Barret is a bigger man. He knows killing Shinra exec won't bring Shinra's victims back. He shows his strength by giving Shinra exec's life.

>>737067012
good to know, thank you

>>737066852
IX has a comfy atmosphere, charming characters, and great music. It's one of my favorites but I can see why others dislike it. FWIW I played it on PC with mods so I was able to speed up the combat and Chocograph grinding. I can't imagine Chocobo Hot and Cold at normal speed.

>>737067012
Virgin hands typed that post

1 game = 70$ from goyim and short-term stability, jobs not guaranteed for employees
3 games with the same content or less = 210$ from the goyim, ensured long-term money stability and guaranteed at least 10 years of job security

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>>737067524
>with the same content

>>737064673
>How come some people enjoy things that I don't? Clearly there is something wrong with them as every single person on Earth should be a carbon copy of me
Get some help nigga you are so far up your own ass

>>737067524
You can shit talk the remakes all you want, the one thing they arent is a low effort production.
>>737067646
Chrono Trigger is 100% next, if they bother. I think they will look at this and just double down on Gatcha and MMOs.

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>>737067860
Maybe.

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>>737067860
Have a picture.

>>737044016
>and demanded it be turned into three different games instead?
what else did the voices tell you, anon?

>Honey, you've been calling out your 4chan enemies for hours. Please, think about your heart. You're an old man now.
>NO! I have to expose botfag... again!

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>>737068325
I am that, I say those things and act this way.

The original game had zero voice acting, pre-rendered backgrounds, and very rudimentary polygonal assets. It was far easier to tell a very long story with tons of enemies and locations. Even if square didn’t want to triple dip, they couldn’t have pulled it off at Remakes visual fidelity.

>>737043736
If you just focus on plot and not characters, you can write infinitely. Characters have to die eventually, plots can just have another twist added onto it infinitely.

>>737044117
I just started disc 2 of xenogears after like 50h and all the bad guys just do a "arrgh, next time I'll beat you!" and run away. It's so fucking lame and makes it feel like you're hardly making progress. I'm guessing most jrpgs are like this.

>>737065372
Why does length of development correspond to number of games released? The tardy brothers worked on Dwarf Fortress for like 20 years but only released 1 game.

>>737065724
>I just dislike dishonesty. If Jimbo
This post is so funny holy shit

>>737043736
The game was originally on 3 discs, maybe someone was convinced they should make 3 modern discs worth of games.

>>737043736
It also felt really bad to hear the dialogue spoken, the characters aren't that great and it worked better when the story moved fast and you just read the dialogue. Also all those anime mannerisms from Aerith and Tifa and weird reactions from Cloud all the time. Just embarassing man.

>>737043736
>retards

If these "retards" didn't do that, they would have spent 3 times the budget, barely sold any more than Remake did, and no one would be talking about it in 2026.

Instead the games are still relevant and they get to sell 3 full price games for massive profits.

Sounds like the retard is you.

The remakes are superior, characters have more depth and they took generic enemies like Hell House and Swordipede and made them unique bosses.

>>737069536
Cloud, Tifa, Aeris and Barret were just as one note, only stretched for 30h. Expanded shit like Jessie ws really dumb as well, Cloud never once showed any reciprocity, he just does the pikachu face any time she does anything, just crap.

>>737064010
You could try and prove me wrong, instead.

>>737069901
You are not worth it.

>>737043736
Because they made it for goys like you. I'm not a goy, so I don't consume goyslop. Passover is coming soon.

>>737070234
huh? I didn't buy it

>>737065220
ffx is repulsive on every level althoughbeit. set the stage for all the bad decisions that would follow.

>>737061097
>>737069532
This!

>>737069049
What would be a valid criticism of 7R?

>>737070012
I'll accept the concession, then :)

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>>737070886
Tifa tits too small

>>737065220
NTA, but
>dropping ATB
>the summon system is goofy
>worst girl Yuna is the love interest instead of best girl Rikku or runner up Lulu
>first game without the world map, and it's jarring and gay
>the dub is godawful
>the story is uninteresting
>hero talks like a fag, and his shit's all retarded

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>>737071104
Remake haters think we'll just let them run this town... heh. Fat chance.

>>737067015
I never cared much for the original and only managed to play it all the way through once as a teenager. I find the remakes entertaining because they clarify a lot of script / plot fuckups which made the original difficult to deal with, and I have no problem paying for them because the new visuals and music are great and I'm not insanely poor.

I can also understand why people who spent the last 25 years picking apart the original and probably coming to more nuanced conclusions than the remakes would be annoyed by them.

tl;dr the target audience for the remakes is people who never actually gave a shit about the original but played it once or absorbed it by osmosis over stream

>>737071201
>dropping ATB
I much prefer the new combat system to fast-forwarding through static ATB sequences.

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To make money

Same reason why a short fantasy children's novel had to become a three-movie franchise.
On a related note, most people have forgotten about these movies already.

>>737069264
extra funny considering its juju saying that. notorious for being /v/s most dishonest poster. all he does is schizopost about his enemies and advertise his shitty art all day, every day.

>>737063575
The slap fight just doesn't make any sense. Tifa should body Scarlet in one hit. If you are okay with it, then you shouldn't be bitching about Peter Parker getting pinned by a refrigerator because it's the same inconsistent nonsense.

>>737071323
The entire remake trilogy will be forgotten after a month when it's finally done, doomed to only be discussed by the obsessive nohopers who cling to this IP due to an unhealthy attachment to the characters. The world will move on, but this dwindling group of autistic balding millennials will still insist the trilogy was a phenomenal success and continue discussing it like the shit movie that came out 20 years ago that nobody but them cares about.
tl;dr: The OG will continue to be a classic, the remake trilogy will be tossed on the garbage pile like all other compilation trash.

>>737071492
True. I appreciate the honesty even if it's upsetting to accept.

>>737071435
The point was that Scarlet slapped her so Tifa slaps her back.
Scarlet is a bitch that hides behind technology and weapons to kill people, and Tifa was so offended by being slapped that she just slaps her back harder.

It's supposed to be a funny lighthearted moment after so much heavy stuff with Cloud just went down and you almost saw Tifa be executed on live TV.
You people are such downers.

>>737071492
I can't say you're wrong, all I can do is point out this has been posted before.
If I had a rebuttal I'd post it but I don't.

>>737071435
>If you are okay with it, then you shouldn't be bitching about Peter Parker getting pinned by a refrigerator because it's the same inconsistent nonsense.
Not at all, since Peter Parker being overpowered by a fridge was used as an excuse to further the plot along and get MJ in danger.
If Tifa was capture because Scarlet slapped her hard and knocked her out, then you would have a point.

>>737071434
Who the fuck is juju and what does their art look like? First I'm hearing of this schizo, but if this schizo has art I'd like to see it.

>>737071567
I agree.
By the way, what do you think of people like >>737063575?
Must suck taking a lighthearted scene so seriously.

>>737071685
I think someone like that should stay FAR AWAY from any Metal Gear Solid games... they'd probably have an aneurysm.

>>737071685
That tweet is so embarrassingly preformative it's hard to know how honest it is. Maybe he really believes it, or maybe he pretends to for good boy points from other preformative males. Either way it's pathetic.

>>737071492
yeah you are right

>>737071323
There's a difference between selling out and not blowing up your entire business over one project. A full 9 hour LotR trilogy in one movie would be the most expensive film ever made, inflation adjusted, and I can only imagine what the theater would smell like.

The Hobbit trilogy was just blatant cash grabbing and chink pandering.

>>737071658
The point is the character's perceived power within the world becomes inconsistent. It also makes Tifa look like an idiot for humoring Scarlet that way, but I could say the same for the treatment of the secondary villains in general. In these japanese games everyone is always way too lenient with people that should be hated so much by the main cast that they try to kill them at every opportunity instead of letting them go or holding back.

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>>737071492
kek

>>737072064
Glad youre having fun too :)

>>737071919
It's not very heroic to beat down someone far weaker than you even if they are jerks. If the best Scarlet can do is slap Tifa and tell her to stop, it would've been weird if Tifa punched her and (probably) killed her.

There are moments for the hero to callously off some bad guy, but only if they are actively trying to murder you like in Raiders when Indy just shoots the sword guy. Scarlet had no power at that moment, so Tifa didn't take advantage of the situation to hit her full strength.

why ff7 threads attract samefag posting everytime
I barely click on these threads but every time I do, I see the same shit that get posted on previous threads

>>737072713
Every Final Fantasy thread is like the same ~20 people over and over again, and it has been this way for a very long time. Of these maybe ~20 people, there are just a small handful who account for most of the posts. Of this small handful, some of them are schizos who are constantly on the hunt for random namefags from other websites.

>>737068563
>a very long story
It's like a 35-40 hour game at most if you aren't spending forever at the chocobo races
They embellished the fuck out of Remake to be almost that long on its own

>>737072525
>If the best Scarlet can do is slap Tifa and tell her to stop, it would've been weird if Tifa punched her and (probably) killed her.
Scarlet is responsible for all the robots, mechs, and other weapons at Shinra. Every single death caused by any one of those is because of her, on top of her being outright shown to be an awful person besides that.

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>>737073084
Yeah but who are they gonna get to replace her if they kill Scarlet? Probably someone just as bad but even dumber. The goal is to curtail Shinra's worst excesses not exterminate them.

>>737072713
The Ba7ry test proved over 50% of these threads are just the same guy being Barry but for 7R. It's not exactly subtle either.
It's just one guy combing every thread replying to EVERY negative post to dismiss them but with no actual argument. Barry 2.0

>>737043736

Because teh modern audience doesn't have the patience for a lore-heavy 30-hour game.

Allegedly.

>>737043736
The trilogy thing is a red herring, the compilationification of the story is the real issue.

>>737073030
The original script is way too condensed. 20 hours per act is a pretty fair length. Which is about what the remakes are if you don't engage with any of the kill N monsters and fetch quest bullshit.

>>737043736
Good graphics take time. Also it makes more money than one time sale. Imagine how many times they can re-release and do editions of 3 different games + sell the full package with fixes that is a "must buy" even for the people who bought all 3 already.
Also it allows much more DLC and mtx stuff.

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>>737073426
For some reason this panel reminds me of this extremely strangely animated scene. Could they really not have animated this better? It feels like this is almost still a storyboard.

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>>737071225
The tit mogging is pathetic, square better include this scene in this shit "faithful" remake.

>>737074291
>not letting me see Tifa's panties
In the OG I could even collect them. Square has been fucking up, they better include an interactive sex scene to compensate players.

>play 7 OG
>game is depressing and world is bland/small too much a straight path "dungeons" are a joke compared to older ffs
>materia is annoying makes characters feel universally the same
>limit breaks are OP
>other materia/summons in some minigames cant be bothered to find them

I don't get the appeal of this game. It was probably cool if you were 14 in 1997 but its a mix of too easy and too grimdark to me.

>>737075232
It's modern AAA game 1.0. They made a lot of mistakes everyone else got to learn from.

You should try 6.

>>737075232
It's definitely a product of its time that gained popularity because:
>multidisc game that wasn't a FMV game, so it's HYOOOOJ
>Final Fantasy's jump to a new format
>really ambitious graphics
>SPIKY HAIR AND BIG SWORD SO FUCKING COOL
>GOTH DUDE WITH LONG HAIR AND MASAMUNE SO FUCKING COOL
>CHICK WITH BIG TITS HOLY SHIT
When it turned out it wasn't actually a BAD game, that was enough to make it a huge success. It was instrumental in making console gaming as big as it is today, as FF7 had enough elements that normies were interested in.
I used to talk about video games in the 8-bit and 16-bit eras with a few friends, but most people didn't play them (or admit to it). Mortal Kombat and NBA Jam were exceptions, not the rule.
I personally burned a few hundred discs for people in my high school and taught them how to do the swap trick so they could play FF7. That's how many people were interested.

>>737075664
Yeah its crazy how popular ff7 was. Guys who normally only played fifa or fighting or racing games were playing a turn based jrpg and loving it. Sadly now the only fans left are the hyperautistic 1% who became obsessed with the cast and will now choke down endless shit just to spend more time with them.

>>737076427
True.

>>737076427
>hyperautistic 1% who became obsessed with the cast
These are people salty about the remakes existing not the ones buying them.

>>737076593
lol sure, the people with Zack or Tifa profile pictures don't care about remake

>>737076773
Ok I admit my no u argument didn't really make any sense once you think about it, but the post above touched a nerve and I lashed out.

>>737076773
They care about the remake a lot, but they're not the ones buying it. They're too salty the remakes shit all over their headcanon or failed to implement this one obscure detail exactly from the original.

>>737077525
What's a valid criticism of viir?

>>737077525
>they're not the ones buying it
Like most people, it seems

>>737077638
stupid filler missions
aeris and tifa are too waifuized

>>737077734
inexplicable pronunciations of aeris and ket shay

>>737077820
>crying about optional content
>hating girls being cute
Retard

>>737075232
I still think it's fun to replay today, it's still one of my favorite games. But the point you bring up about characters feeling samey is true. This is a point where you just have to admit Remake/Rebirth did that part better. All the characters feel different and have special moves beyond limit breaks. I would just like to genuinely know why the fuck they don't just copy and paste this into an actual new FF game instead of lol here's your one character.

>>737077998
This would be the hyperautistic 1% who aren't buying it.

>>737078126
That makes no sense but I know you need this so let's say you win

>>737043736
It's not trying to be the original game.

>>737078126
looks to me like a lot more than 1% of ff7 fans arent interested in buying rebirth

>>737078126
Then why does Remake have like 8 million sales or whatever while Rebirth has so few (~2 million) that Square Enix wont say anything about it?

>>737044376
...They didn't kill anybody? What?

>>737074178
good graphics don't require lengthening the game

>>737074932
>create a sex scene out of thin air when there was not one in the original
For the last time, no.

>>737078597
Ba7ry just no us the posts that upset him, even if his point makes no sense. It's a coping mechanism.

>>737078654
Grill that fucker. Question them until they tap out.

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>>737044376
>Tifa

>>737044376
>Game makes you stroll through a 9/11 tier event you directly caused
>Cloud gives no fucks about preserving life at all
>Does all this for a single time gil payment
>payment is like a day's worth of goods

Cloud is a fucking psychopath even if you take out all the mind fuckery, he's complicit with terrorists for a single cash low value payment lol

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>>737077638
To me it is
>Despite being just 1/3rd of the og game, they barely added more of Midgar, just filler
>The story needs you to play og FFVII to make sense, but also kinda shits on it with fanfic level of changes
>The new OCs
>Due to timejanny shenanigans and it being both remake/sequel/reimagination at the same time, it is hard to take the story seriously
>Sephiroth everywhere and has no dramatic impact because he's more of an advertising tool than actual character or part of coherent plot(and he HAD to appear and be visible in first VIIR because what is FFVII game without the iconic Sephiroth?)
>Boss battles are more interesting(at times) but more of bullet sponges with way too many phases(first boss doesn't need to be as epic as some mid-game climax boss, feels more fanservice-y)
>Honey Bee Inn(no, not because of the "gay" stuff, but because it is so over the top rather than being just optional thing/area)
Then the fun stuff
>Split into 3 $60/70/80(90?) games
>All the fucking mtx and dlc shit that was slapped in, seriously just the butterfinger shit is embarrassing
>Sold as remake even when it is a pseudo time travel shenanigans(And now people insists it was ALWAYS meant as sequel and you believing it was remake because it was called remake is your fault)
And for Rebirth I only need to say
>Dyne
If you want criticism. What a way to rape a character completely, I guess the original version was too "problematic and dark".

Anyway, people will (re)buy the 3-game package and cheer.

>>737079004
>Yeah...
Brutal

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>>737043736
They wanted to fill out the entire game world with their autism because they couldn't simply leave things to an overworld. And somehow gigantic JPGs for Midgar justified an entire game of its own when it's two hubs and a bunch of awkward dungeons tied together.
Seriously, 30 seconds and an optional boss fight of an area to traverse in the OG somehow became an explorable area with a mandatory boss fight and plot and that's the surface level of this sort of shit with this trilogy. God help the Midgar sewer retread.

>>737079038
Sucks that they made Yuffie button up. And switching her into the CPR scene then not even doing it? Very gay

>>737044615
>Cloud blows up a magic reactor
>kills people
>im doing this to establish myself as a mercenary
>next job is killing junk rats and a big pit bull

>>737079163
Rebirth especially is extremely gay and pozzed. Yuffie buttoned (AND belted, thanks Nomura) after Intergrade. Cid had his cigarette removed.

>>737078545
What makes you think fans are the target audience?

>>737043736
The original game was too long if I remember correctly, but three separate games feels like one big one when you line them up.

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>>737079262
99% of being a mercenary is trying to get paid while avoiding balls to the walls commando action and set peice battles

>>737079038
>Dyne
>If you want criticism. What a way to rape a character completely, I guess the original version was too "problematic and dark".
Barret and Dyne were always stupid niggers and Mt Coral was always the hardest part of the 2nd act to slog through. I'm glad they minimized it. If you want to remake Mass Effect with 50% less Jacob I'm down for that too.

>>737080142
Plot contrivances.

>>737079896
>too long
It takes about as long to complete the original VII in a story run as it does to 100% Remake by itself, arguably shorter than Remake on average depending on what you're doing. VII was actually not that long, 3 discs just makes people imagine it was when in reality without all the FMVs eating up the discs you could fit everything on one easy. If anything that highlights just how absolutely dragged out the remakes are.

>>737077638
I'm fine with story changes. Releasing the games on multiple console generations is my complaint. All games should have been playable in ps4. Would even sell better.

>>737080142
'Cause she sucks

>>737079004
>anon can't get laid
>turns it into a cheating fetish
Why? Why not fantasize about actual sex?

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>>737044316
>they ignored that and just followed the original games plot instead because they're creatively bankrupt hackfrauds.
Nah they were just afraid of the backlash. I believe it was Kitase who said that they would change the story of part 3 depending on player's reactions

>>737078837
Keep coping