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Stop Killing Games public hearing in the European Parliament
https://multimedia.europarl.europa.eu/en/webstreaming/committee-on-int ernal-market-and-consumer-protectio n-ordinary-meeting-committee-on-leg al-affairs-com_20260416-1100-COMMIT TEE-IMCO-JURI-PETI
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UK cuck here how do I become European again?
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NOOOOOOO EU SHOULD NOT FORCE ME TO LET PLAYERS HAVE DEDICATED SERVERS. I AM SUPPOSED TO MAKE OLD GAMES UNPLAYABLE BECAUSE OTHERWISE THEY WONT BUY OUR NEW SLOP WRITTEN BY VIBECODING POOPEATERS AND FILLED WITH BLACKS AND TRANNIES.
SHUT IT DOWN SHUUUT IT DOOOWN
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>>737046794
Actually SKG won't work because I'm illiterate
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Rate Ross's look
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There is something funny how SKG haters used to scream that nobody would take the initiative seriously but now that EU goverments are seriously considering the fact that game companies can take away products people legally paid for the only "argument" haters have is fear mongering and being clueless about how the EU works or what it's like to actually have your consumer rights enforced.
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>>737047096
Optimal.
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>>737047104
I wish we could have UK consumer protections without all the other dystopian shit that comes with the UK.
>>737047139
>A world without normalfags fucking up my lobbies
You don't have to sell me on the idea, I was already onboard.
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>Government overreach is BASED!!!
Don't you faggots realise that these are a slippery slope that will lead to authoratarianism, like how you lost all your gun rights?
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>>737047104
We are still a long way from new rules to be written.
The EU moves painfully slow. By the time they'll outline the plan against planned obsolescence in games the next US president will be worrying about midterms.
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One mold man is taking on the biggest entertainment industry in the world.
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>UK hearing
>who cares, not an issue, we won't change anything
>EU hearing
>the exact opposite
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>>737047334
>I don't play live service games but I care about SKG
Then you're by definition a slacktivist. You aren't affected by the outcome of this initiative, you just want to feel a part of some grand "movement"
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>>737047252
There's a balance between government overreach and re-evaluating market politics.
There were a ton of them created just in the 90s and 2000s that you don't know about because all you do is wax nostalgia about games you played as a child. In reality, developers back then already had to deal with the EU and US market conditions. Literally all japanese games would've had naked women and bukkakes in them if there weren't rules against age ratings and content and decent market publicity back then.
I know what you're thinking. "Buh-buh-buh-buh-BASED--!" but no. Think about it.
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Just think about it for two god damn seconds, son.
Do you wanna scroll down the Steam store, PSN or your local Gamestop and see nothing but sperm clots and tits on game covers? Because that's what the market would look like, if it actually had zero regulation.
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>>737047427
>you shouldn't work on something that doesn't directly affect you
>even if it indirectly affect you
The US being a shithole suddenly make sense.
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EUChads, I wasn't familiar with your game
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>>737046932
marry this anon >>737046960
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>>737047478
Those subhumans are mind hacked to follow their corpo overlords
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Shut up. Be quiet
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>>737047545
>this will kill all live service games and also possibly murder the publishers in cold blood
Please let this be true
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>>737047729
>You literally said that if live service slop had those features you would play them
>"If live service slop stops being made in favor of..."
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>>737046794
>your petition will never get enough votes!
>Nobody cares about these old games! Stop making a fuss!
>They wont even bother with your petition!
>These old boomers in charge dont know or care about your silly toys! Grow up!
>Your demands are too unreasonable and expensive! It will be rejected!
>It's pointless! Give up! You wont win!
>YOU CANT HOPE TO DEFEAT CORPORATIONS!!!
>The entire room agrees with SKG during the hearing
>everyone there has either played or has friends and family that paid for and plays videogames
So what's their newest corporate sponsored doomnigger narrative?
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they're 100% going to force some gay age verification shit and some way to track users aren't they
this is the perfect trojan horse
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>>737047252
It's transparent you have no idea what you're talking about. Joining the EU was a mistake for many countries but being able to leverage its power via democratic processes like this is a silver lining.
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>>737047252
Gov does something I like = Good
Why don't Americans understand this simple concept?
Why even have a government if you don't want them to ever do anything?
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NOOOO!
CURSE YOU ENTITLED EUROPEAN GAMERS!
YOUR GREED IS KILLING INNOCENT BILLION DOLLARS COMPANIES!
UBISOFT IS DYING BECAUSE OF YOU!
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>>737047891
I didn't know basic consumer protections are "Nanny welfare state" shit. You're right, we should stop checking food storage facilities for mold, and we need to stop all these faggoty "Air quality" standards. A real man drinks his smog.
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>>737047936
>UBISOFT IS DYING BECAUSE OF YOU!
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>T.
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https://github.com/eu-digital-identity-wallet/av-app-android-wallet-ui
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>>737047936
i already signed the initiative, you don't have to convince me any further
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>>737047936
Good.
Rape Bungie.
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i signeded (⸝⸝⸝• ω •⸝⸝⸝)
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>>737047478
Because the far left in america is unhinged, stupid and extremely dogmatic. Their proposal would be something like:
>american stop killing games act
>now companies just have to tell you that you dont own the game
>AND makes it so you have to register your state ID with the company before purchasing
>AND includes a pathway to citizenship for illegal aliens
>AND codifies new taxes on the middle class
>AND gives $200 billion in assets to isreal
>AND gives $250 million in assets to ukraine
And if anyone refuses to pass it they will shut down our government for 4 months, skip the original purpose and just demand that illegals should be allowed to vote (for them).
All their proposals are always vague bullshit like "help americans act" that exclusively harms americans. Its like the free Congo state. The american far left DNC is badically operating like Leopold, trying to get free/cheap labor.
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>>737048164
this.
5 years ago i watched 'the market' invent their own ideas of what safety requires and the phsyically assaulting old ladies for not following those rules. the people running the show focused on that market of hysterical yet hypocritical fuckwit.
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dalit + low izzat
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Americans when gov gives a citizen healthcare or education
This is commie shit! :(
American when gov bails out a big bank or corporation
THIS US TRUE AMERICAN FREEDOM BABY WOOHOO FREE MARKET! :D
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>>737048107
>You are the market, your actions affect it.
My only actions are
>YAY: spend money to support shitty practices
>ABSTAIN: dont spend money and not be counted as part of the audience
Ther is no NAY option available anywhere. The "vote with your wallet" faggots always leave that part out.
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>>737047363
>virtue signalling about pointless shit
Literally how is any of this a virtue signal? Ross is very passionate about this and clearly threw everything he had into getting this far. This is the literal opposite of a virtue signal.
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>>737048381
You don't get it, they could be a CEO one day if they work very hard for Shekelstein, they can't have regulation now, this could hit on their future profits!
>>737048392
I'm mocking retards who think regulations against corporations are the problem, and often believe in fucking trickle down economics.
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>>737047089
i hope the developers do the same shit that say, apple does with their phones, where the EU regulates that they can't fuck the consumer over in a certain way and so they make a special exception for europeans only while continuing to buttfuck americans without lube.
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>europe is literally on the brink of destruction and the irish are doing braveheart tier motivational speeches
>and then there are these nerds
based nerds saving genshin from going EOS
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>>737047252
It's not overreach when people are literally going hey government please reach here. I'm not saying the final product can't have some form of overreach and you can gloat then but currently this is something the EU citizens went out of their way to ask for.
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>>737047525
That core rotted the instant conservatives started favouring industry lobbies and getting into bed with multibilionaries.
Now "government intervention" is only a problem when it's about favouring the customer, if it's financing private industries with public funds or manipulating the stock market to make investors happy then it's all good.
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>>737047819
>Rights are granted by the government, anon. Unless God almighty starts striking down people during crimes in progress, the state is who decides what rights you have.
That's where you are wrong. Read Douglas Wilson. Local communities centered around a Church should govern themselves, not some libtard nanny state.
Nigth watchman state
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>UBISOFT IS DYING BECAUSE OF YOU!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=roRQ2mNwMMQ
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>>737048664
numbers don't lie
the 50 million muslims are vastly out breeding the europeans.
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very based I hope they win and save games.
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>>737048082
It's funny how hard the DCV keeps biting them in the ass
>Couldn't prove a dumbass lawsuit wrong because the vaulted content cannot be put in a playable stat if it isn't outright deleted and the judge didn't accept let's plays as proof.
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>>737048446
>politicans want our lives to improve!
>they will give us rules that do that!
Wrong! They want to be reelected. How does this lead to them getting relected?? If it doesn't it most likely wont pass or it will be heavily re-tooled to give their donors more control or capital. The DNC is backed by insurance, banks, and media (including software groups). Good luck getting the most curropt Americans to turn on their donors.
They protect fraud racketts. They could not care less if their friends rip you off, as long as theyre reelected.
Welcome to u.s politics.
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SKG History. Ross have been fighting this since 2013 https://youtu.be/DlOX3wRQvUg?si=0zmcCRnySPol9nAP
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>>737046794
He's based for taking faggot ubisoft to court in a way for making games always online which was always a bad idea and is gay.
He's still ugly.
But based.
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>lmao it won't even reach 100k signatures
>okat it did but it won't reach 500k
>okat it did butit won't reach the threshold
>okat it did butit won't get additional signatures to account for invalid signatures
>okat it did butit'll never get heard in the eu, they'll just throw it away in the preliminary hearing
>okay they didn't but politicians will just laugh it out
>okay the politicians agree with it but
what's the next line in corporate bootlicking ?
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I'm watching EU parliament proceedingswith interest to boot
what has this world come to
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I want fair consumer rights but I also want less regulations and more competetiveness in tech in EU. That constant feel of European decline
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#StopKillingGames live on Twitch in one hour, with @accursedfarms
. Reflecting on the public hearing at the @Europarl_EN
https://x.com/Moritz_Katzner/status/2044778829986529728?s=20
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>>737048831
>damnit my derail failed
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It should be.
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>Wasting taxpayer dollars building useless high speed rail so niggers can ride it...is le BASED
Why are yuros so cucked? Don't they realise 15 minutes cities are literally trying to trap people in and take away their freedom to move as they please?
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>>737048864
Let's all remember the games who had forced online or always online features
>mfw thinking about my inventory not being available in HITMAN because it couldn't connect to the server due to maintenance
>or when I'm rudely being interrupted every 5 minutes by a message telling me I lost/regained connection to the server
IT'S SO UNFAIR! WHY? WHY WOULD THE EU TAKE THAT AWAY FROM ME?!
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>>737047525
That’s not conservative ideology. If you’re trying to conserve the sentiments of the founders of the country, then you would believe in social contract theory, where the populace yields up some freedoms and control to the government in exchange for the government protecting their rights.
That’s literally what the US federal constitution is. The articles are we the people giving the government certain rights and powers. The bill of rights is the government giving we the people certain rights and powers.
Conservatism isn’t anti-government intervention. You’re describing conservatardism, aka a Potemkin ideology cooked up by corporations to convince people liberal, democratic, capitalist societies operating as intended is socialism (it isn’t)
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>>737049083
>convince people liberal, democratic, capitalist societies operating as intended is socialis-ACK
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SOON https://www.twitch.tv/stopkillinggames_official
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>>737049202
Or the classic
>"Here's the plan."
>"Also we'd like to amend this plan by adding this completely separate thing to it that everyone hates and doesn't want in any capacity."
>gets voted out because the amendment is that fucking bad
>"Well guess nobody actually wanted it!"
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>>737049234
Democratic socialism is the most retarded ideology ever conceived. It’s literally just highly altruistic liberal capitalism that has been falsely accused for so long of being communist that its practitioners just gave up and said “sure, fuck it, we’re communists I guess.”
Just another example of corporate conservatardism poisoning all discourse by using rote repetition in propaganda to make words mean something they don’t mean.
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I like how a poorly fitting blue dress shirt is the most professional looking outfit he has in his wardrobe
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>>737049464
>publishers will stop making online games as its too much legal hassle to deal with so they will make more single player games instead.
They'll either eat the pitifully small fine or geoblock Europe. They're that fucking retarded.
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>>737047525
Thats classical liberalism
Conservatives have always been statists
Horseshoe theory? More like CIA plot to get young people to support dictatorship and or stronger governments and a weaker populus
Your mind has been thorougly subjugated and you cant use your own judgement anymore
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>>737049025
The problem is inherently with needing to work around Patent and Copyright law, both European and international variants.
IP law in general is highly corrupt, shortsighted, draconian and inflexible, being mostly composed of an increasing number of ad hoc additions and extensions to obsolete laws.
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The UK can't stop ruining Europe even after they left the EU.
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/mbg/ my beloved schizos one of ours is on the case
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>>737049025
motherfucker we have literal water shortages and skyrocketing electric bills in the US because of AI data centers here and you want big tech to run rampant in the EU??? I WISH the government would curbstomp the tech industry
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>>737046794
Okay, I just watched it all. Huge W, they literally all agreed, even some cringe gayming references!
Can't believe a filthy american started this initiative, but I'm glad he did. Gayming is saved. Thanks ROSS, thanks EU. <3
Enjoying a Beer now, Prost!
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Mfw gamin is saved
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oh thanks :DDD
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>>737047901
>automatic protections for miners
>miners
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>the need to create a safe digital environment for our young people
>automatic protections for minors
>we've seen positive examples we could base ourselves on
Oh my fucking god they're actually gonna mandate ID checks for playing video games.
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>>737049069
World of Warcraft.
After an undisclosed length of time, the publisher disables the game I payed money for, which was a MMOrpg made for straight mentally healthy individuals, without the in-game currency being sold for real money, without the in-game items being sold for real money. This game is no longer exists and the publisher is actively destroying every attempt to resurrect the original game (Nostalrius).
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>>737046794
The funniest thing would still be if some EU politicians genuinely become convinced and widen the scope to all software, not just games. Adobe wants to discontinue a product again cause they don't know how to innovate it anymore? Fine, open up the code then!
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Can I get TL;DR on what's currently happening?
I haven't been accompanying the "Stop Killing Gaems" news for a while.
>t.european
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you can tell ross is smart because he made sure to emphasize how it's as much of a consumer rights issue as it is an ideological issue in his blurb
fuck you I paid for the game, you don't get to take it away from me
FUCK YOU EA I WANT TO PLAY BATTLEFIELD 1943 YOU FUCKING NIGGERS BRING HIM BACK BRING HIM BACK BRING HIM BACK
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I dunno probably the fact that they straight-up said it? >>737047901
Honestly makes me think that they're gonna copy the thing China did.
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>>737049901
>Good morning saar please sign petition
Are you in Mars? We are beyond that point
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I meant the presentation shitting itself ONLY when you get up to showcase it...
I'm not even questioning shit going out of service, I've had it happen to me multiple times already
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>>737046858
>Makes countless non-EU billionares seethe, cry, shit, piss, puke on a daily basis
>"no, you're not allowed to kill humans and destroy nature just to make a few more millions"
>US tech billionares seethe so much they spend countless billions to get Trump elected in a desperate attempt at destroying the EU
>EU said no once and Trump immediately caved in and bent the knee
>mission failed
>billions lost
get fucked US lmfao
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>europe ask for help over the ukraine war
>united states: "not our war. We are suspending the aids btw.
>ffw 1 year
>united states ask for help over the iran war
>europe: "not our war"
>united states: "WTF, HOW YOU DARE"
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>>737050167
In the same way that you should wash with cold water because of rising gas prices, that you should choose between the air conditioner or peace, that europe has the values of the talmud, all things said by EU politicians btw, it doesn't have to make sense for them, it just needs to fuck you over for their jewish masters.
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>>737048875
The way their butthurt kept getting worse over time because skg didn't quietly die as they expected is hilarious.
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>>737047337
>Just as many petitions involved
>We hear you, we're still doing it, we're not making an assembly for it.
I hate my country.
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>>737048546
More like 10 years, government action is incredibly slow.
Anyway, I'm pretty sure they already said that SKG would only affect games released after it goes into effect, so developers get a decade to prepare for it. Or to find a legal loophole.
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>>737049519
Probably never dressed up before. Can't see a reason he has done it before outside of discreet, personal stuff. Still, seems the type to have never dressed up. And that's ok he's in fucking parliament speaking on our behalf
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Ross Scott voice of Freeman's Mind saving videogames with SKG (He started) team. What a timeline
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I sent ross a really long email to recommend him Xenoblade X and he actually responded
Imagine a game dungeon episode of X
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>>737051173
The unfortunate truth is that for good shit that you like to be able to be played forever, so does the slop.
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>>737051173
So you want Concord to be a fading memory so that a company in the future can try again and potentially succeed, shitting up gaming even further?
See that's the nice thing about having games still be playable:The shame of its failure will never go away.
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Stream live https://www.twitch.tv/stopkillinggames_official
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SKG news
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THE MOLD IS IN
THE MOLD IS IN
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hello sirs, what did i miss good sirs?
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>>737047252
If you want to talk about slippery slopes, how about the slope that’s leading to game companies being able to kill any game, live service or not, single or multiplayer, by mandating online connections?
Any argument you can make about government overreach can also be made about developer overreach, except there is direct precedent for game developers consistently trying to fuck over the consumer at every angle while the government has made both pro consumer and pro business decisions alike,
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>>737047139
>Enjoy having all online games immediately die because normalfags prefer matchmaking
they are not mututally exclusve.
games can have both offiical servers that are matchmade and a lobby browser.
tf2 does this for example.
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If SKG gets what they want implemented, nothing would really change about GaaS besides the games still being playable via player hosted servers or p2p after they shut down and maybe the game still being purchaseable. For example, look at EVOLVE. You can still play the game offline and online via private p2p lobbies.
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never fucking happened, 10,000 troops are going to be deployed and a blockade we set up is already letting ships through, cope all you want but we wont this ran shit in the end, and then Europe will be cucked when we control their oil
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>>737051897
Some things would have to change depending on what the law will cover, but we don't know it all yet. At the end of the day all that matters is the game is still playable, even if it's just for a skeleton player base or game nights.
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>>737052009
Considering how movement started. This feels surreal
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>>737047936
>UBISOFT IS DYING
Good.
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Its really not that hard to create an offline version of a game with peer to peer connectivity when the official servers go down.
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>>737052220
you must remember, in the real world. NOTHING EVER HAPPENS. peace talks will go through, things will be resolved
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>>737047217
Finally, an excuse to post this.
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>>737052330
I remember the battlefield 3 trailer starting with a shot of a dinosaur as a nod to 4chan
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>>737046990
This is the sad part. The only reason corpos are seething is because they plan on degrading future game quality. If they evolved game quality people would still buy the new versions of games even if the older versionsare DRM free. Examples.
>The Witcher
DRM free and each version of the game was bought by more and more people.
>Divinity:Original Sin
DRM free and each version of the game was bought by more and more people.
Seriously. Having the older games available and not dead would be an asset and free marketing for the upcoming game IMO
(as long as the new game is not a cashgrab). So pretty much anyone seething about StopKillingGames is a corpo that want videogames to get shittier and sloppivied by AI and DEI hires.
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>>737047478
It's actually a lot of Japanese people too. Americans and Japanese are the ultimate corporate bootlickers. It's unreal how delusional they all are.
>yes corporate sama fuck my ass i don't need no consumer rights
Thang god for Europe actualy saving videogames.
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At what point does false flagging end and mental retardation begin?
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>>737052439
Piracy, as long as the game is good, is a net positive for the long-term health of the company.
>people pirate game 1
>like it
>talk to other people about it (free marketing)
>decide to buy game 2
There was an EU study, which showed that video game piracy results in increased sales. Though films, audiobooks, ebooks etc are hurt by piracy.
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>>737052592
They don't really understand that, either. Ironically, despite founding their country due to government overreach, they yearn for a king and always oppose government overreach but only when such "overreach" would benefit the people. Benefiting the would-be monarch is always a positive.
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>>737052439
They don't even have to improve the game's quality if they expand by adding new stories, quests etc. Look at expansion packs for example. BroodWar, Blood and Wine, Phantom Liberty etc.
>same game but adding more story content
And people will buy it. Killing games is a retarded mindset when you could be selling story DLC for your game.
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>>737052505
>Eat my entire ass
PIRATE SOFTWARE WILL GET EVERYTHING HE ASKED FOR, AND NOTHING HE WANTED.
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>>737052739
Based.
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Ultrabased.
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>>737052257
>strong leadership
>straight up pretending we own the strait and doing a second blockade on top of iran's to show how big our wiener is
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>>737052435
WoW is much more of a complicated case actually. The original game was sold on CDs with all the game files to run it (I still have the discs), the only thing required to run it is a server running the correct game version. The subscription was paid separate from the game- in other words, I only paid for an ACCOUNT not the game. This goes for the expacs too.
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>>737046794
Only ever played sigle player games and pirated them.
So not really my problem.
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>>737050358
You consider being ruled by pedos and sending money to more pedos instead to your own population a achivement.
Truly, the greatest nation of goys imaginable.
Tell us more about coping since you´re obviously a expert on that field.
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>>737052757
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12 hours?
Is there some important part to watch it's all important?
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>>737052854
>the only thing required to run it is a server running the correct game version.
Oh and also a change to realmlist.txt
After that, the game could run any day. People figured out private servers based on a leaked beta client that they reverse engineered the network traffic from in like 2006 or 7.
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>>737052989
Right wing sweep among politicians and only politicians, seemingly
Lots of retards trying to grab power and only finding prison cell bars in their hands, like South Korea's president and Brazil's president
Brazil! BRAZIL managed to not only root out their previous president but also rooted out all of his buddies in the military planning a coup!
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>>737053109
How so? I'm not very familiar with Hungarian politics post 1956.
>>737053121
I've heard Brazil overthrows a lot of their leaders or force them to abdicate. Like Ferdenando and Dilma Rousseff.
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>>737047271
>nigel farage will live to not only see his epic meme secession be reversed, but also lose the UK pound and pence in favor of the euro in the process
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>>737052757
Mashallah
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>>737053214
Brazil and other corrupt South American shitholes do tend to overthrow the previous leader in sudden and bloody revolution, it's noteworthy however that Brazil is one of the countries with leadership who saw Donald Trump completely get away with Jan 6th and thought they want a piece of the pie, then get immediately thwarted
Even more noteworthy is simply that Brazil routed everybody responsible, they went completely top to bottom and imprisoned everybody involved with the coup with almost mechanical precision and grace
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>the chest hair
Jesus fuck Ross
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>>737049258
On 1 good idea ,like Universal USB-C, eu Does like 5 diffrent retarded thing that make you wish to burn that Tower of Babel they have in Brussels.
Like Climate BS, retarded Online survelience BS under a mask of Protecting the kids(as it they were ever protected considering the racial makeup of EU cities), Some crisis Push for more centralistation because tha always worked so well, constant blabering on Abaut sommon Forces that ends in nothing, Establishing Erasmus aka A free way for girls to whore themselfs. Etc.
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>>737053330
Government control is worse than corporate control in his diseased little head, regardless of how completely identical both systems are when corps are allowed to entrench themselves into law the way they are in America
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>>737053372
I'm all for reducing climate change and protecting nature and shit, but I hate paper straws and will never use them. The EU cannot make me.
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>>737052938
>based on a leaked beta client that they reverse engineered the network traffic from in like 2006 or 7.
And then people say "Community servers could never work its too hard" when SKG wants to legalize running your own servers (or atleast make the law clear on that) when devs shut down their servers
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>>737052259
California, NY, Illinois, Virginia, and NJ
Specially in places like L.A, San Diego, San Francisco, Seattle, portland, Chicago, Manhattan, Brooklyn, Bronx, and their satellite suburban sprawls.
If youre a real nigga about it, no these are extremely far left strong holds. Our far left is the progressive-democrat. They are socialists who believe in critical theory regarsing rqce, gender and religion and believe dismantling civil rights to property ownership, self defense, and private wealth. These are tenants of their ideas, putting them in line with Marxism and Maoism. These groups were very extreme and resulted in millions dying for pursuits of equality and equity.
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>>737053453
Some politicians are aight
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PVUoQAtEUnU
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>>737053483
Everybody pissing and shitting themselves about Mamdani walking into office and then immediately fulfilling his promises is fucking slaying me
"What do you mean he's not just sitting on his nuts in there? There should have been a real American patriot in there doing nothing and signing off billions more to the NYPD! THIS IS COMMUNISM"
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>>737052669
i gotchu anon
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>>737053502
The US is such a young nation. They still consider paying tea taxes the peak of tyrannical rule. Here in Europe we've had some actual tyrants, which is why we take politics seriously to keep them out of office.
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>>737053510
Yeah, most pollution and waste is caused by companies and corpos, the personal carboon footprint shit was made by oil companies.
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>>737053214
>Hungary
In short. If he actually did what his detractors said he was Doing he would win in a Landslide.
But he didn't and now ex Fidesh guy who left because corruption (aka did not get his cut) Now rules.
And his party is a frankenstein of bassicaly any party that was antyFidesz. And that was their entire platform. Doubt they will last more than 1 or 2 years before infighting for EU Gibs begins.
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>>737052317
Of course it isn't, but companies want to take your game, hold it hostage for a few years to reignite demand, and sell it to you again. It's nothing personal, just business.
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>>737046794
All video games should be live service games that get free updates every 6 weeks. Prove me wrong.
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>>737053661
>The US is such a young nation. They still consider paying tea taxes the peak of tyrannical rule.
Anon, the average American these days is a brown mutt from south of the border who views the American Revolution as a white supremacist event to promote slavery and genocide natives. They have no clue nor do they even care about colonial taxes, parliamentary representation, etc. The demographic replacement was a resounding success.
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What complete delusion is this?
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>>737053786
The whole industry is pretty fucked up, honestly. Like consoles. Basically selling you a weak overpriced computer which their games only work for. How is that any different from memory cards or cards that only work for a specific device, and have already been found to be illegal?
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>>737053767
>Games live on forever
>all non-EU IP addresses are blocked
Stop, I can only get so erect
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>>737047096
A far cry from actual formal dress and grooming, but to his credit, he does look like the kind of guy I'd trust when he's talking about nerd shit like video games and advocating for preservationism. I wouldn't want him doing my taxes, but I'd follow his advice on which Linux distro is right for me without question.
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>>737053510
the funny thing was that they were supposed to be "More EcoFriendly" but ended up actually being less eco.
https://stroodles.co.uk/blogs/news/paper-straws-are-they-really-as-eco -friendly
That and moral grandstanding while still doing Buissnes with Russian companies(see Belgium) makes them Look retarded/malicious
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>>737053681
Gen X has some very specific mental illness regarding conservative politics and worshiping at the altar of Infinite Capital Forever that isn't reflected in the immediately preceding generation and the immediately succeeding generations, genuinely I think it's some chemical in the water or they've all been eating lead paint chips. Survey recently showed only ages 45-59 don't like Mamdani over in New York and thaaat's Gen X
Genuinely things might not get better until the entirety of Gen X is dead!
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>>737053829
I think it's really interesting how companies say there are no games for girls, but the moment one is made like Love and Deepspace it makes a shit load of money. Same thing happened with K-Pop Demon Hunters for movies.
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>international practice due to EU law is bad for le myrica because murica politics bad
the world is currently picking up US slack because your deep rooted supremacy insecurities have failed the country for 400 years straight, with the internet, you're all seeing it for the first time and every corporation is working their hardest to block the sun from you all.
You need to hold your politicians accountable and start giving them the chair. The left woke crowd is right and its no contest.
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>>737053839
The founding fathers were white slaveowners upset over basically imaginary problems (Britain rarely actually enforced its taxes because of the sheer physical distance) and demanded rights not given to any other colony, then sunk an impossibly huge amount of tea about it. (Compressed tea bricks, it wasn't loose leaf tea aboard that ship. Would have been a couple million dollars' worth of tea in today's money.)
They got away with it largely by a combination of guerilla warfare and the sheer physical distance between Britain and the American continent. The juice wasn't worth the squeeze.
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>>737053286
The European commission proposes legislation. It would be almost as if the US cabinet had that power. Why is it so? Don't ask me.
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>>737053967
>Soviet Union 2
SU at least managed to quickly industrialise and actualy managed to have some world influence.
Better comparison is Austro Hungary aka
A, overbeurocratic state held by ducktape of ideas filled thih etnicites and where bigger ones dominate the smaller ones and they all secretly detest eachother, and are in it for the gibs from the "imperial core". And the moment the moeny stops flowing the Shit will shatter.
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Shills are getting desperate. What's he guideline, spamming cp not working, thus go to TDS?
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How did it even get to this point?
>People see a game that tells you: you don't own it, you pay a subscription to play it for a little while and it can shut down whenever they're sick of you.
>Basically renting an opportunity to waste your own time.
>Gamers say YEAH THAT SOUNDS GREAT LET'S DO IT.
>They don't even have an offline mode.
>Gamers just keep ignoring singleplayer games and swarming these scam-services.
what exactly do you fags expect to happen? Stop falling for service scams.
Games should be PRODUCTS. Products should be able to be used WITHOUT INTERNET.
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>>737054191
girls like boy stuff
boys like girl stuff
you see it on /v/ everyday
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>>737054319
It wasn't Ross.
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>>737053329
A federalized EU would be rivaled by no one. Not even the JewSA could push it around
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>>737054356
I remember the day that Final Fantasy 11 was announced. FF 6-10 were at the time the best games I had ever played, but I put my foot down and refused to get 11 because that shit made no sense. I don't even own the games I own?
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>>737049913
What do you think you are proving here? Wow these countries have fucking irrelevant parties that call themselves communist how awful. Why don't you show us a map depicting which of these parties are actually in power?
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>>737054228
Not really, retards are still buying shit en masse, what's killing AAA companies is that their projects are bloating faster than people stupidity can pay for it.
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>>737053591
>oh you want to tax the rich
>lmao fuck the middle class, own nothing faggots
Fun fact his parents are worth about $14.8m
Socialism worked for FDR because we all fucking got something out of it. We got roads, interstate highways, bridges, tunnels.
Progressive socialism doesnt work because we get nothing from loud black women.
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>>737054479
Most people pissing and shitting about communism are pointing to the enormous failures of past countries that claimed a conversion to communism in revolutionary parties and then immediately had zero interest in pursuing communism, instead becoming kleptocratic capitalistic countries but with more state-owned industries than is normal
I am never sure how much of it is capitalistic brainwashing and propaganda at work ("capitalism = good") and how much of it is simple inability to conceive of any economic theory that isn't capitalism; an alarming number of people believe Money Is Exchanged For Goods And Services can only happen under a capitalist system
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>>737054161
I feel like you are ommiting
>Colonial overlord dragging the colony into wars with Indians and French
>then Brittan imposng new taxes and even moving the administration to Montreall as if the 13 colonies did not directly support the war effort
>Brittan ignoring any attempts to negociate (see "Declaration of Rights and Grievances")
>and all that plus a dumb law where Colonist HAD to house any british troops
Boston Massacre was just a match over a powder barrel.
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>>737054634
Dark Spore
Nier Reincarnation
Concord (I wanted to play a 5v5 Bazz only match with my /v/ros)
I don't really give a shit about any other game
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>>737054634
yeah here you go
>https://stopkillinggames.wiki.gg/wiki/Dead_game_list
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>>737054363
Dual Monarchy is fun because you enter reading abaut it thinking "Hmm How did this work?" and leave thinking "How did this Utter Mess lasted this long?"
Still cool flag tho even if a Bit fake.
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>>737054631
Communism only happened a century after the french revolution, which actually was a complete overhaul of the existing institutions and a new start to human civilization, that most eventually considered to be a good thing. They were hoping to do it again, but it became TORtanic.
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>>737054161
>The founding fathers were white slaveowners upset over basically imaginary problems
They had much more varied interests than this. Some were ardent abolitionists, some event thought there should be a new American monarchy once independence was achieved. The only thing that somewhat united them is that they thought the British royal family were a bunch of fags and no longer wanted to serve them.
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>>737054762
The New Deal was bad for companies but great for Joe Dipshit, especially with the art explosion that happened immediately afterwards because an enormous amount of average Joe Dipshits were now capable sculptors, painters, construction men, artists
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>>737054724
Elasmosaurus. It's so cool.
>Actually-
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>>737053681
They didnt get raised on propoganda, their whole life experince is propoganda. Imagine growing up being 17 years old. You got a job, a year later, you had enough for a house or to pay for university, went to university, got your wife, got a cooperate job, worked to middle manager in 2-3 years, have 2 homes etc whatever. Of course they believe they system they grew up with and the system that does everything to please them. Who wouldn't? They got the golden ticket to life. But now its coming back and we are feeling the consequences.
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>>737054631
>parties and then immediately had zero interest in pursuing communism, instead becoming kleptocratic capitalistic countries but with more state-owned industries than is normal
>UNIRONIC "tHAT WASN'T REAL COMMUNISM
All the Warsaw Pact countries gladly ended the communist rule and May I remind you. Which system had to build a wall to keep people IN?
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>>737054946
>don't pursue communism
>one hundred years later
>some horse toothed faggot: LMAOOOOO THAT WASN'T REAL COMMUNISM? GET A GRIP
Like
Yeah, it wasn't real communism, they didn't chase the dragon for very long, usually only long enough to get in the chair
Do you think the Nazi Party was socialist too? Be real for a second since you're spraying spittle based solely off of the veneer of the government and not its actions and practices
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>>737054906
Honestly I lay the blame on those "environmentalist" grifters that keep enabling this shit. They don't actually care, but just push for shit that helps out their overlords even more and delay any actual solutions.
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>>737055048
It's the feeling of actual openness and care for *humans* over just profit profit profit and power to those already in power. Americans are so obsessed with "winning" that as long as they feel like "the opponent" is losing, they don't care about anything else.
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>>737054946
Well, it's true.
But that's because communism inevitably lead to someone taking over and doing something else, because as it turns out, the guys who distribute the resource have an absurd amount of power.
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>>737055210
Professional water muddier at work, please wait warmly
>>737055253
/pol/tard talking point from more than a decade ago, I remember sending "Swedish muslim rape gangs" concern-troll articles to people when I was a teenager and losing friends over it because I fell for obvious rags
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>>737055253
I didn't say that the EU is perfect. There's plenty of bullshit, but this particular case? It's good. The US isn't all shit either, but this type of nuance is rare on here and kind of annoying to deal with the aftermath of.
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New thread by the way >>737054848
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>>737055301
Capitalism is riddled with high management hoarding all of that abundance, yes it is a cargo cult, this is why that upper 1% tries so goddamned hard to keep people focused on race warfare and sexual degenerates instead of class warfare
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>>737055203
Yes now condemn the holodomor
>>737055210
They've always been real. Ever since the wall came down, they've been crying that the worker's paradise they championed wasn't real communism.
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>>737049025
The EU quite literally does not have the industrial capacity, resources nor the stopgaps to do that. It's just not a reality. The EU is not the place to look for tech innovations or a tech race of sorts. The US, while leading on that tech, has to put alot of energy that dwarfs EU consumption and expenditure by the billions to basically lift up the entire world by its shoulders when it comes to AI.
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>>737049025
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>>737055083
that's the point, retard, muh communism is an unreachable ideal that will fail halfway in thanks to the nature of the power structure leading to an even worse abuse of power than what capitalism suffers from
you gay commie bitch
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>>737055856
Definitely not helping is retards that attack you for just talking about economic theory and whether it was achieved or even attempted, some niggas on 4chan stake their entire life and identity on hating communism and think not being similarly "hardball" on it means you're its most loyal defender
Black and white faggotry
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>>737049025
Kill yourself. I want more regulation of tech. Instead of implementing age verification they could've instead tightened the noose on social network anti-consumer practices but even in the EU billionaires are able to buy certain politicians. Thanfully not all of the EU is bought by billionairs like the USA is.
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>>737055994
Communist theory is literally an outdated and outmoded economic and international relations theory. Its lasting impact is propped up by provocatuers and zealots that want a radical ideology to vent their grievances.
>>737056125
That's on-paper goal for all systems of governance you fucking moron.
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>>737056190
>Its lasting impact is propped up by provocatuers and zealots that want a radical ideology to vent their grievances.
Its lasting impact is dipshits and neo-nazis on the internet still fighting it like Joe McCarthy is alive
>That's on-paper goal for all systems of governance
The vast majority of governments aren't governing at all by this logic, the US is notoriously opposed to any kind of social safety-net right now for example
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>>737055365
The zealotry devoted to class warfare is the cargo cult. Capitalism is literally just economic literacy. From Adam Smith to John Maynard Keynes, they're all capitalists because they follow the academia on economics.
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>>737056343
>The vast majority of governments aren't governing at all by this logic, the US is notoriously opposed to any kind of social safety-net right now for example
Wait, do you think the US has ZERO social services and programs whatsoever? Who the fuck is feeding you this propaganda?
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>>737055210
You see, the reason they keep saying this is because the communism we all know and love is only a transition stage. ACTUAL communism is a total utopia that magically happens after spending a few centuries or millenia under "not real" communism.
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>>737056530
USAID is not the only social safety net, and of which was an INTERNATIONAL aid sinkhole with no net social gain and at its baseline was an actual social negative. It started in the 60s to combat the Soviet Union's soft power.
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>>737056635
>USAID is not the only social safety net,
Nobody said it was
You keep replying to things I didn't say and didn't imply, third strike and you're out
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ROSS THE POWERPOINT IS MISALIGNED
ROOOOOOOOOOOSS
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>>737054526
I would never endorse a Federal State whose governing organs are managed by a bunch of unelected technocrats. Currently the only EU body that's subject to election is the Parliament, and what power does it hold when compared to the EU Council or the European Comission?
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>>737057160
>big tech actively trying to sabotage the movement