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Maplestory Classic is getting a patch later tonight.

So far it's very close to vanilla beta, but with some QoL features and changes. People complaining about the accuracy.
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>>737098218
sins damage gets a lot better after leveling mastery and crit.
Ryambi is a level 40 bandit and he is doing 450-650 damage per hit with double stab.
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>>737098310
double stab was buffed and l7 nerfed
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>>737098383
Doesn't matter, claw damage was heavily buffed
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thoughts on /ourgirl/?
https://www.twitch.tv/triciaisabirdy
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anyone else niggermaxxing lately ?
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>>737098427
>they cant afford the claws because they're spending it on lemons and meat
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>>737098467
YOOOO ITS GOOD ITS ACTUALLY GOOD

https://www.twitch.tv/ereklo_game/clip/AffluentCovertLardBibleThump-5q7WTdOxDps_VRxG
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Reminder (You) are not getting into the closed online test no matter how many codes they send out.
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>>737098514
There are people who return the shopping cart and who don't
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IM IN
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>>737098514
I don't want to play, and I don't know why so many people are so desperate.
$200 for a ring lol
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were maple islanders buffed
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>>737098514
Give ME a code Stinkwell. I WILL use it.
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>>737098514
unironically just opening the beta would retroactively rape and kill the chinks who botted signups
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>>737098514
>>737098550
>check my middle school yahoo mail account for the 20th time today
>This is the only email i've received
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>>737098662
They already got their money. They already won. The damage is done. Nexon went full retard with how they handled this.
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>>737098667
>So did you like the load I shot?
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so like where do I farm at lvl 15
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>>737098681
They fucked up not making the codes tied to the accounts. They also fucked up by not prioritizing older accounts. But they mainly fucked up by not giving me specifically a code.
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>>737098681
they probably just didn't anticipate how desperate autists would be to playtest this shit
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>>737098727
golems
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Never really played Maplestory, might give it a try whenever I have the chance.

All I've read is that Mages are the only class worth playing and everything else is bad, how does that even work?
Legitimately asking, since I usually go for something that uses a bow or crossbow.
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>>737098494
YOOOOOOO
BRO ITS HELLA GOOD ONG FRFR HELLA SHEEIT FUCK MOFUGGA AAAAAHH NO FAX STR8 BUSSIN IN MY ASS
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>>737098821
>Mages are the only class worth playing and everything else is bad
Only because they fucked up the accuracy formula, which is likely being fixed in the upcoming maintenance.
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>>737098494
this gay couple is so wholesome!
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>>737098514
Nexon genuinely have no idea what the fuck they're doing even after over 3 decades and hundreds of billions of fucking dollars
Sad!
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>>737098727
Pigs and orange mushies are probably most cost efficient. You could try octos, but a lot of people are using mana skills there and you might want to save pots for Ant Tunnel training.
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>>737098249
why the fuck is florina beach in classic? fucking unbelievable.
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>>737098821
Mages have always been the best farming class, but in OSMS they were dog shit at bosses. If you only want to giga grind then pick a mage. If you want to at least be somewhat competent at bosses that will get released later down the line then pick another class.

Also good luck being a bowman in Maple, it's all struggle.
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>>737098821
Issue is that 1st and 2nd job state/balance doesn't give the entire picture. Not only can things change from closed test, but when you put in 200-400hours into a character for the potential 3rd job release and even further down the line 4th job it changes.
Some classes could get extremely nice changes in their 3rd job that would change everything. But for now in the closed test, mages are doing the best. Other classes need higher level to get mastery to start catching up in consistent damage so mages might be something that fall down a bit the higher we go in levels.
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>>737098667
>mfw yahoo deleted my email account for no fucking reason (inactivity)
>mfw i lost my main email when my xbox was stolen and I couldn't verify it was me
>mfw I lost my main email again years later when for some retarded reason microshart syncs xbox account and email together and fucking deleted the entire email address and support told me theres nothing they can do
Been on gmail ever since.
It'll inevitably be phased out I'm sure as I'm sure they're thinking of ways they can fuck my ass
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Alright /v/, why is it called MapleStory?
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>>737098871
they're 14 years old you sick fuck
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level 13 swordsman. Its rough compared to everyone else.
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>>737099046
minors can't be twitch partners thoughever so that can't be right
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>>737098514
But I am in the beta. No Chinaman can gatekeep me.
>>737098667
Got plenty of those myself, too.
FWIW they didn't send me my code until a bit after noon yesterday.
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>>737099029
because the goddess of the maple tree is trying to fight off gods of reality
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>>737099029
Mercedes
Aran
Phantom
Luminous
Evan
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>>737099076
parental controls retard
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Why do so many azn girls play Maplestory?
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>>737099192
Shade kind of ruined that.
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/ourgirl/ is back

https://www.twitch.tv/itskellers
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>>737099560
>until her cantonese bf shows up
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any other hyperspergs planning on maining perma beginner/islander?
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https://www.twitch.tv/bonchily

another one. what's with all the autistic asian girls playing classic?
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>>737098821
The best classes are relative to available content. Mages always had the best time in the early early days because there was only 2nd job advancement (mages had the strongest 2nd job), not a lot of bosses to kill so you mostly just grinded on mobs (mages handle mobs best), and they're pretty cheap to grind on (especially important on day 1 since you're starting completely from nothing, as is everyone else so no handouts). This closed test is replicating that basically one to one despite some balance changes. Once bossing becomes relevant and 3rd job rolls around mages will be balanced out better.
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>>737099532
Shade
...tory
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>>737099661
kys
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>>737099664
even pretending to be a chick back then got me $50 worth of hair coupons and the poor guy never showed up in the guild again, he took his moms credit card
being an actual vagina holder is like an infinite money glitch
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>>737099560
>>737099664
>henehoes were actually real qt azns and now they're hags
Truly the greatest gift classic MS has given us
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>>737099532
Who?
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>>737099560
you mean juwia https://www.twitch.tv/juwia
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>>737099724
>being an actual vagina holder is like an infinite money glitch
It still is, if the armies of simps female streamers of current day are anything to go by.
It's a bit more difficult these days compared to back then though because most women realized they can weaponize their boobs and hips. Also trannies exist now.
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>check maplestory streams
>top 2 in viewership are a bodybuilder and a fat nerd
>all the qt asian thots playing classic are way behind them in viewership
Has the simp movement officially ended?
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>>737099745
Aran is hot
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>>737099774
>>737099664
>>737099560
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Is it a bad idea to grind to level 30 mage with lvl 1 Energy Bolt to get the support skills, or they don't matter? Do we know how much SP reset scrolls will cost on the real server?
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>>737100028
respecs are nothing, thieves have to respec 80/20 in dex to pass job advance
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>>737100028
>grind to level 30 mage with lvl 1 Energy Bolt
People did this all the time back in the day to save on potion costs. But back then the MA formula was also more in their favor.
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>>737100061
I know NX is free right now, but I'm talking about once the game comes out of beta. I imagine it'd be miserable getting to level 30 hitting that shitty ball, but if the SP reset scroll is like $30 I ain't paying for that shit.
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>>737099917
eh, pretty much always been the case afaik. The very top of viewcounts of twitch tend to be males. I suspect there's a whole bunch of women right in the middle of twitch's demographics with anywhere between 100~1000 viewers though and they probably have a much easier time escaping the 0~10 viewer wasteland than guys.
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>>737099965
cool nx bro
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>>737100082
I imagine it also had to do with getting Max SP increase maxed as soon as possible to get the maximum amount of SP, or did it work differently for mages than it did for fighters?
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>>737100028
No actual cash shop prices are known yet. Since SP resets, reset all of your SP my guess would be like 10-15$? Could be cheaper or pricier.
The thing is since there is likely only 1st and 2nd job on launch, this is exactly what they want. It's an easy way to monetize the 3rd job and 4th job as you would want to reset points from attack skills to passive/buffs as you get new ones.
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if Nath from SydneyMS is still around I can't find your video on youtube, I really want it
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>>737100140
Max MP Increase, yes. The sooner you maxed it, the better off you would be. But unlike warriors, they also had an MP Recovery skill at 1st job which was frequently maxed out next for even further potion cost saving.
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I'll make a bolt cleric that levels at Jr Wraith and Wraiths until 70 just like classic
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Why are people surprised mages are the best grinder?
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>tfw no code
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>>737100532
Think it was more people hoping they did some minor balancing so that bad classes got love.
Just feels bad playing non-mages which was fine in 2005 before people kicked you for not being 100% optimal.
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I made it to level 15 and got bored because I ran out of free HP pots.
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>>737100636
Yeah even back in the day people would kick the warriors and archers out of KPQ parties if Magicians or (claw) Rogues became available.
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>>737099664
Maple gf wasn't a meme.
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>>737100682
Same, but for mana.
Knowing it's going to be wiped makes me completely uninvested but it was a nice 4 or 5 hours.
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>>737100750
>>737100682
Lol, retards. People have been saying for two days now to play carefully and try not to use pots before Ant Tunnel training at around 20.>>737100739
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>>737100776
I honestly thought the physical classes would have a leg up against Magicians this time around because of the potion scarcity, since they can generally survive on basic physical attacks while Magicians cannot. But due to the fucked accuracy formula on top of magic still being cracked, it's just same as it ever was.
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Got to 15 so I can take a break. Enjoying it so far, its just like how I remember it. Not enjoying my ears getting raped when I hear somebody smith shit.
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>>737100776
>NOOO YOU MUST MIN MAX THIS WIPE BETA!!
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>>737101314
It's not minmaxing, it's called being pragmatic and utilizing your kit properly.

>>737100872
If you remake as a mage you will find it's easymode.
Levels 10-20 is still the hardest part of the game by far. Once you're above 20 you enter the big boys club.
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How the FUCK do I build my warrior so I can actually shit shit while still doing damage. Tired of getting out damaged by mages 5 levels below me.
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>>737101520
Kek
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>>737101520
You thought "Magestory" was a joke or something?
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So im guessing the open beta is when they will bring back the Mark of the Beta bandana?
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>>737101954
If they do open testing then it would be a pretty likely move. We just don't know if there will be an open test or if launch is next or if there are multiple tests planned.
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>>737102041
Nemi said she has no idea if more tests are planned. Most likely, whether official launch comes next or not very likely depends on how smoothly this test turns out.
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i will forever be a peasant because of not getting the beta label ring and chat ring. even 10+ years for now i will be getting flexed on for not having it. my hype is long dead now.
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>>737102257
10+ years from now classic will have EOSd like Maple 2 so who cares man
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>>737102120
I have been following this quite closely ever since maplecon. Back then my guess was around the anniversary so late april or during may as I still think it's kind of an obvious move to do something for classic during that moment.
Now I'm not so sure as there has been things coming from closed test that makes me think they still need more time. However seeing that they are already tackling these problems and to go as far as fixing them during the closed test gives me a bit copium that they aren't completely backlogged with numerous changes/adjustments. That and they might not be too hard or time consuming to fix.

I still believe around early may we are getting something as it would be around couple weeks from closed test which gives some time to go through things and having the anniversary date be something where you would bring a date, be it open test or launch seems like a very good timing in general.
Have to see what they do, but I hope for a fast launch as I want to obviously play, but also think the current momemtum from closed test is already good to keep up.
>>737102257
If you truly care about flexing try to snipe good names, especially 4 letter ones during launch. Those will go for hundreds and thousands of dollars much later on.
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>>737102297
If OSRS, a subscription based classic game that tried its damnedest to force LGBT+ values onto its playerbase, is still running today, Classic MS is definitely going to still be here 10 years from now.
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>>737102349
Whatever they decide to do, I hope it's at least 2-3 weeks release after announcement so I can put in for vacation time. I want to nolife this game for the first two weeks with everyone else.
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>>737102358
Because OSRS is an actual good game and they pushed out a lot of good content consistently?
Do you really see Inkwell and his fuckup Nexon NA squad doing anything of the sort considering that according to Nemi's linkedin page they have been working on classic world for over 2 years now and it's a complete fucking mess? Wizet made Maplestory in less time than it took for them to take their homework and shit all over it.
Also considering the only thing you mention is "LGBT+ values" that pretty much showcases that you don't even care if a game is good or not in the first place.
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>>737102489
>Because OSRS is an actual good game and they pushed out a lot of good content consistently?
lmao when osrs was released it was a total shitshow for the first year, it didn't get good until later
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>>737102610
You think I don't know that? That's the exact reason why I brought it up in comparison to classic world.
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>>737102415
I'm pretty sure there will be enough time in advance. Shadow dropping can work very well and doing so during the anniversary by saying like classic will be out later this evening could potentially work extremely well, but I doubt this.
I'm planning on playing a ton aswell as I have a lot of time and happen to really enjoy this game for some odd reason. Hopefully launch goes well.
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>>737102489
>it's a complete fucking mess
you are such a disingenuous nigger LOL the game is not only functional but the biggest gripes are all things that can be tweaked easily, they just need the feedback for it. what a rich irony it is to complain about other people not caring about a game being good in the first place when you just did exactly that. you're both niggers and you should be shot apart by a firing squad.
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>>737102489
Classic is fine, sperg.
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>>737102882
If it's tweaked so easily why did it take them 2 years to prop up a game that already exists?
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>>737102489
the thing that autistic retards like you don't realize is the thing that takes the most work and time by far is multiplayer netcode. Everything related to gameplay is nothing compared to making sure multiplayer works smoothly.
Maplestory Classic can handle 200+ people on the same map without lag. In Wizet Maplestory this caused extreme lag, stuttering and crashing, and even more so on the java private servers. This would've taken a huge amount of time to optimize because it's using the same engine as GMS, but you still have to rewrite a lot of the multiplayer code and load balancing specifically for classic, especially since it's far more common for one map to have lots of players compared to gms.
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>>737103014
because it's a small team remaking every old asset from scratch and recreating the game into an entirely new codebase. again, disingenuous nigger. kill yourself.
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blackgoku still trying to doompost again?
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>>737098249
they should have done a twitch campaign if you watch 2 hours you get a key
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>>737103042
So you literally pointed out it's just the maplestory engine but then think they somehow needed to rewrite everything instead of you know, the fact all that work was already there made by the koreans? are you genuinely retarded? The fundamental core of the game is the exact same how the fuck does any of that need to be "rewritten" for classic. Do you think modern maple is a fucking 3d cube game or something?
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>>737103217
>dorogroid secondary posting about shit he knows nothing about
no fucking wonder he's retarded. he doesn't even play the games he talks about.
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Against my better judgment, I'm gonna be a Paladin when Classic drops. Here's hoping they make it worth a damn
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>>737103238
Genuinely tell me what about classic is so revolutionary and different from modern maple that it needs a complete engine rewrite?
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>>737103217
You are a complete idiot who doesn't know anything about netcode. EVERYTHING needs to be rewritten with a specific optimisation in mind, EVERY action in the game. You cannot just transfer the existing GMS netcode out because it's a completely different game with different stats, different gameplay dynamics.

Stop trying to talk about things you have no clue about you embarrassing dumbfuck.
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>>737103279
You're fucking retarded.
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>>737103042
>In Wizet Maplestory this caused extreme lag, stuttering and crashing, and even more so on the java private servers.
This literally never happened and if anything the game became more unstable over time.
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>>737103283
>>737103326
Take your own advice then because again, is Maplestory now a 3d cube game suddenly?
Oh wait it's the exact fucking same game underneath but they just added more skills over the years. Did the makers of mapleland and artale and chronostory need to manually recreate everything from scratch too? No they fucking didn't because maplestory worlds already handles that for them BECAUSE IT'S THE SAME FUCKING GAME AND THE SAME NETCODE
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>>737103352
It's actually mind-boggling how stupid you are anon. Even though you don't know anything about netcode or multiplayer, you still blab like you understand it.
You are genuinely the biggest idiot on this website right now. Just kill yourself, nobody will miss a worthless piece of garbage like you who can't even do the tiniest bit of research.
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>>737103425
So somehow you are such an amazing genius that you 100% confidently know that the game made in the engine, made for maplestory, somehow needs to be rewritten just so it can handle maplestory?
Genuinely think using your 1 brain cell for once, holy shit
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>>737103352
>actually citing maplestory worlds
How are you this dumb anon? maplestory worlds has all kinds of limitations including player limits per channel. the netcode is not even close to the same level of complexity as something like gms.
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>>737103476
Man if only classic was build on the actual GMS engine that handles all of that already...
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>>737103469
NTA . You're a braindead gorilla nigger. How the FUCK do end up thinking that something like netcode is trivial to solve when dozens of factors to consider.

You're medically a real retarded faggot. Just KYS.
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>>737103469
Notice how all you can retort with is comparing it to other versions of the game, but you can't actually delve into any detail on what netcode is. You know nothing about replication, load balancing, authoritative actions, RPCs, client-prediction, nothing. You're an utterly worthless piece of garbage idiot with nothing worthwhile to contribute, who thinks one game's netcode can seamlessly transfer to another. There's nothing to discuss with a complete and utter moron like you because you're just too stupid.
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>>737103526
Ah yes, the netcode for maplestory had to be remade from scratch, just so it can run maplestory with a different UI and less skills, yep.
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>>737103524
Again, you're a dead-set imbecile. If netcodes were modular, nobody would ever hire engineers for multiplayer games. Stop talking about programming when you have nfi.
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bro relax
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>>737103559
>idiot is mindlessly comparing versions again with zero understanding of anything
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>>737103546
>>737103584
>>737103619
>who thinks one game's netcode can seamlessly transfer to another
Okay so then what is so amazing and such a revolutionary jump going from modern maple to classic maple? Again, is maplestory a 3d cube game now? how come you can't answer that? Is it because you might be wrong? Almost like classic maple and modern maple are literally the same fucking game but with different content?

Again, answer the question, is maplestory a 3d cube game now?
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>>737103656
there's honestly no point in explaining anything to a moron like you. For some reason you randomly think being 3D is relevant to this discussion. You just don't get anything and you never will, because you have an IQ of 60.
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>>737103692
So you can't even answer the question and in fact straight up don't even understand the question considering your comment, yet you genuinely think you are correct when you can't even answer such a simple question that even a baby could answer?
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>>737103757
You're literally too stupid to understand concepts. How do you even breathe?
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>>737103757
I'm choosing not to answer the question because you've exposed yourself as being thick as a brick. Why would I waste time even going over the basics of multiplayer netcode to a subhuman idiot like yourself? You could easily look some of this shit up yourself but you would rather behave like the idiot you are here on /v/.

I'll say it one more time: EVERY SINGLE ACTION IN THE GAME HAS TO BE REWRITTEN FOR MULTIPLAYER, ESPECIALLY IN AN MMO ENVIRONMENT
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>>737103757
when the underlying data is different, yes you have to change what gets packed into bitmasks, what gets allocated in relevancy culling, etc. just because the games are similar doesn't mean you can copy-paste everything over, that's what jeets like you do
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Iron Arrow at 190% multiplier is kinda insane. It does some excellent damage on just two monsters. Hell, it looks like Iron Arrow is competitive with your single target skills on two monsters present if it's at least level 3 doing 241% damage split between two monsters compared to Arrow Blow or Double Shot being 240%.

On the flip side for Hunters you need level 21 Arrow Bomb to be comparable to the damage output AB/DS gives on two monsters present.
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>>737103825
Have you tried reading what I said in >>737103352
Did those people need to rewrite the entire netcode from scratch too? Because all of those worlds clients took way less time to develop than classic world did. Huh, almost like the netcode for classic maplestory already exists, because maplestory is maplestory and they didn't change the core of the game?
>>737103885
So your answer is that Maplestory is now a 3d cube game? Because surely if you actually played either game you'd realize they are literally the same core! But nah, Nexon totally had to rewrite everything for this revolutionary amazing jump in technology that is... removing skills and content from the same game...
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>>737103986
>So your answer is that Maplestory is now a 3d cube game?
you are legitimately an idiot, sorry anon.
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30+ year old maplers, how are your fingers and wrists holding up? I went strong for nearly 12 hours but had to call it a night after that.
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>>737103897
I'm going with xbow on launch as I find the defense ignore passive to be cool and piercing stuff is also cool. That and I never really played either bowmaster or marksman so it's a bit more fresh.
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So what's the likelihood of an open beta/launch on the anniversary?
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>>737104005
Which is why you are mad that you can't answer the question and lash out at the person asking it instead? Please take a look in a mirror
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>>737100150
if they don't give free resets with expansions then they're going to have a riot, virtually every asian mmo knows better than to fuck with skill balance without giving out at least one "unbrick your build" token. even games with worse p2w than maplestory avoid that trap
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>>737104051
you are illiterate, and not qualified to have a discussion about programming, let alone multiplayer programming, sorry tardo
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>>737104084
Huh, nowhere in your post did you answer the question, could it be that you just genuinely don't have the intelligence of even a baby to be able to answer the question?
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This >>737103986 might be the single stupidest post I've ever seen on this website.
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>>737104125
It's just really hard being a programmer okay? Everytime blizzard releases a new WoW expansion they have to completely rewrite the entire netcode from scratch just to support the new expansion. How could you complain about their games when so much effort is put into them?
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>>737104018
I'll be honest, defense ignore probably won't matter outside of bosses since it's at a 1/5 shots to trigger. Maybe I'll be wrong, but if I am then it'll only matter on high defense mobs like level 80+ mobs. We have to see what the Classic team does for level 80+ training areas since training from levels 1~75 is radically different from levels 80+ due to monster HP, defense, and damage they deal. We don't know if they're going to keep high level content like that or alter it like they changed the HP/EXP ratios to Tauromacis and Taurospears. If level 80+ mobs will have high defense then the defense ignore will help while mobbing on them since their defense was considerable enough to see your damage reduced.

There's also other factors as well like damage reduction level difference formula as well.
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>>737104265
Anon, it's time to stop.
Swallow your pride, accept you're pretty dumb, and stop trying to talk about shit you have zero knowledge of. Classic is a completely different game to GMS but your small brain still refuses to learn.
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Anyone got a spare beta code? H-haha
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>>737104378
So your answer is that modern maplestory looks like this picture? Huh, I must have just imagined then that it's possible to go into Zakum JQ in modern maplestory and it controls and functions exactly the same as it did back in the original maplestory!
no that can't be, surely it's not possible that such black magic was made by the developers, they must have recreated zakum JQ from scratch with every single update that maplestory has ever received! That perfectly explains everything!
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Antagonist is the best hairstyle.
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My private server with my friends is still more fun than whatever the hell classic is trying to be.
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It's absolutely crazy how feral people are going for codes. I got one and actually had to debate playing because that shit could pay half of my fucking rent for this month. Used it though but damn, I keep second guessing myself, feels awful to not be able to enjoy because there's a serious financial incentive not to play lmao
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>>737098514
>Didn't get a single invite
>But key sellers get thousands
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Crazy how mages are doing 2x-3x more damage than me 2 levels below me.
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>>737104692
I thought it was pretty common knowledge that you make a mage first (Cleric, but I think Heal got nerfed?) to be able to fund your other characters. Do zoomers not know that?
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>mages
sissyboi class, no thanks
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>>737104324
I'm hopeful it'll be useful in much later areas and bosses, aye. It might just be a complete let down, but that's something I'm fine with. Mainly just looking to play something I haven't and hopefully they'll make it a bit interesting where it would actually matter as I'm more of thinking about the later levels when it comes to this passive.
I'd really love to see it be a noticeable change if it does trigger when piercing through beefy enemies.
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>>737098681
>Nexon went full retard
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>funding
Thats zoomershit, back in 2006 we just played the fucking game.
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>>737105026
No we didn't. My advice is from the GMS MapleStory beta. Even as a retard who was new to MMOs, I understood that I ran out of money, so I made a I/L mage because I saw them farming pan lids in that screen left of Hene.
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>>737105026
no, in 2006 you sat around henesys not playing the game because you had no funding to afford pots, lmao
that's why like 87% of players never hit 2nd job, much less any further, according to nexon's own stats (Which they published after the 10th anniversary for pre-bb vs bb)
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>>737098249
Whens the open beta?
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zoomzooms trying to rewrite history
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>>737105026
>>737105389
Why is this zoomer trying to larp as someone who played MapleStory? What would even cause a zoomer to do this?
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>uhh actually you didnt!
zoomzoom mad
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Modern 4chan is literally just:
>brown people larping as white people
>zoomers larping as boomers
>sometimes both
It's so weird.
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I dont know, personally I never had trouble with mesos getting to 2nd job as a Sin.
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Concerntrolling should be bannable
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OSMS won, nuplers die.
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>>737105693
won what?
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>>737106636
The right to kill all nupler scum.
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>>737098249
Would be sick if I could get this working on my AYN Thor when it releases. Then I can chill in bed and grind away.
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I hope Nexon doesn’t start making new content exclusively for the turbo autists who play the game 25 hours a day new content should be for early, mid and end game
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>>737106962
>content exclusively for the turbo autists who play the game 25 hours a day
That's all the game has ever been though?
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>>737106962
Theres a new map releasing on the 21st so thats a start.
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>>737107219
No? There were several low level areas released back in the day along with high level areas
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gotta admit, nu-maple is good and fixed most of the old problems
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>>737107219
Stupidly false, Ludi came out after 3rd job but still had content for lower level players.
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>>737107453
nice try
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>>737107453
everyone loves Lucid...
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>>737107560
don't have to when you keep biting your tongue trying to say classic is good
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>>737107574
Ok by why is that BOWMASTER Athena Pierce trying to attack at melee range?
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>>737107607
don't bully them, classic is fun for a couple weeks or months at least
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code... please I beg...
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>>737107650
That's just her desperation move, it's just like my japanese animes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZ7odc3Cf10
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the earliest POSSIBLE time they distribute more keys will be the 21st, if they do at all.
I do not believe they will. Don't get your hopes up.
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>>737109035
it's all going to go to botted chink accounts anyway since nexon apparently didn't forsee that happening. never had hope anyway
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>tfw didn't get the invite
Ye...Yeah. I didn't mind it at all...
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>>737107453
I CAN FIX HER!
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I'm more confused why people are upset about not getting keys, we've known since the 14th that if you didn't get an email then you weren't getting in. 3 days to cope.
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>>737109124
>I'm more confused why people are upset about not getting keys
Because they wanted to play the game...
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>>737109124
Inkwell said they were sending more keys
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>>737109168
No shit retard, why are they still being mad 3 days later?
>>737109184
and they said they were going to communicate more on GMS, and add tespia for the west, and have more GMS exclusive updates and content, and fix bugs and not commit bait-and-switch marketing fraud.
Here we are.
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>>737109184
>believing the words of the man who added cubes to maple
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>>737098965
why do you keep doing this?
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>>737109391
you can't trust anyone who works at nexon
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>>737109184
>Inkwell said
Look at this gullible idiot.
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does classic have pirates?
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>>737110052
no, cause it's classic and not your new maple fagshit.
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>>737110081
pirates are classic
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>>737110136
Then why isn't it in it then?
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MAPLE SATORY
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>>737110136
no they're not, the game was out for years before pirates came out, they're definitively numaple.
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>>737110136
>pirates are classic
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The game should stop at horntail tbqhf
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>>737110764
it SHOULD stop where it is right now
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>>737110764
the game should eos ngl
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>>737110197
Orbis and ludi aren't classic either then with that logic
>>737110250
>>737110405
Everything before BB is still classic
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>>737111280
>everything after a very clear point in time where the game could be considered "classic" is still classic
lmao
no, anything after the nexon acquisition is not classic, cope, seethe, mald.
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>>737098667
Boomers fall for this
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>>737111313
Okay but down jump got added after pirates but that's fine apparently?
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>>737111280
>Everything before BB is still classic
Potential is not classic.
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>>737111563
no, I think that's stupid too because it ruins the maps made to have slight platforming in them to navigate to new areas. The maps outside of henesys are a great example of this, and it gets fucked by down jump.
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>>737111572
Potential got added like a couple months before big bang so that's basically semantics
Anyway, they already showed that Balrog is likely being added or part of a questline and that boss wasn't added until past Cygnus Knights came out
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the diceroll on stats is good and removing it makes it nu-maple
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I wonder how accurate the formulas are. Looks at it weapon attack from gear outside of your weapon/stars/arrows isn't calculated into the weapon attack variable and will only show up in the attack power variable. So does weapon attack on anything like gloves/boots/cape/earring/helm/top/bottom/overalls count as just attack power rather than weapon attack? Apparently attack power from something like Rage isn't very impactful towards your damage range. If this is the case then weapon attack gloves might be significantly worse than gloves that increase your chance to critical.
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>>737111892
Another thing that is vague, for weapon attack it says BASE damage of the weapon. So does that mean weapon attack gained from scrolling the weapon will only show up in Attack Power rather than being counted towards your full weapon attack? People are going to need to have scrolled weapons and possibly even gloves with their damage range to see how everything lines up. A lot of people have been going around with clean gear so I don't know if many people can offer such things.
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HELLO ARE THE SERVERS DOWN?
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>>737112816
should be down for ~15 more minutes unless extended
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>>737102882
I dunno, I was optimistic but you say the biggest gripe is with things that can be easily tweaked and just needed feedback i.e. accuracy formula, especially on 2nd job advancement for jobs like archer, but isn't that specific gripe immediately obvious?
How don't they have a parallel instance of the game to test and immediately catch the avoidability or level (whatever the culprit seems to be) of the mob to cause so many misses to occur instead of opening a 5000 players closed beta to tell them that, seems kinda weird imo.
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>call out sick today
>no key
this is so gay
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>>737114153
why would you call out without a key?
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>>737114242
cause I'm sick duh

now give my a key or else!
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>>737114389
everyone who's going to get a key got an email like half a week ago bro, your own retarded fault for getting sick without a key.
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there will be no bullying in the guild on launch
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time to beg
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>>737115004
will do nothing. Nexon outsources support to zendesk (indians) so no one who has any access to anything will see your tickets. They basically answer questions from a script and if they don't have an answer either close the ticket or kick it it up to a human with an IQ above 30.
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>>737099532
>>737099694
mapuurr shade-tori
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>>737113483
Why dont you shut the fuck up before i smash your teeth in kid?
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>>737115113
fine then
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>>737110136
Pirates really aren't classic, I wish we could see account creation day of people who want pirates. Nobody who actually was there for OG maplestory wants pirates. Only newfags want pirates. Pirates were when the game really started to become retail. Even at the time they felt out of place
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bruh
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>>737116009
yeah people are going crazy over this shit, it's really funny.
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>>737116009
I'd imagine people will be spending thousands in the first month on buying mesos.
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pirates
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>>737115113
I got a decent non generic response when I complained about the dutch trade restrictions but it could also just be that they use AI now
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>>737116367
I really think the 'leaf points' are them testing out maple point equivalent for classic, cause they know meso selling/buying will be so big. I hope it's the case, I'd love to be able to buy cosmetics without having to put real money in, that was my biggest issue with ms back in the day, having to gamble on getting scammed by buying codes from people.
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>>737116525
It's AI. Brother, that entire third paragraph SCREAMS chatgpt.
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>>737116537
leaf points are 100% just the maple point equivalent for classic. They don't want to straight up use maple points because then people could sell shit on interactive for maple points to then buy shit in classic as maple points and NX are account wide shared between servers.
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>>737116525
>full blown AI sloppa response
why do they even fucking bother. disgusting. I'd rather them cut 90% of the chaff but actually write it out instead
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what animation is this?
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>>737117106
It's a vfx, not a character animation, just a little swirling thing.
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>Day 4
Hows it looking so far? I saw people are already hitting level 40+
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>>737116525
Indian AI response. It's sad how the modern internet doesn't have any real human beings anymore
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>>737116009
>>737116237
no they arent lmao
You guys are key sellers trying to create a market. You've been doing it for several threads now.
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>>737117206
There's 0 content after 2nd job, really, after level 15, so it's just grinding to grind. The game was surprisingly empty last night. Expecting more people to log in for the first time this weekend, but honestly I think most people are done already since they hit level 15. Accuracy makes it nearly impossible to play anything besides mage unless you don't mind wasting a ton of time having to sit jerking off.
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>>737117183
Does it look like MP eater? If so that's cool cuz the MP eater animations is nice and juicy
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>>737117340
People are only really playing just to see the new area they are dropping next week but even then that's just a couple maps and mobs to grind on, since nobody gives a fuck about the quests
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>>737117340
>so it's just grinding to grind
Just like MS used to be.
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>>737117685
I don't know why there's all this revisionism with maplestory. Most people didn't grind, most people at most did one or two PQs ever because of the amount of tracking horseshit and smuggling. Most people sat in towns chatting, lmao.
You can even look at historical rankings, and those are VERY generous past pre-bb, and STILL well over 75% of players never even hit level 30.
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>>737099560
>>737099664
>>737099774
for me its https://www.twitch.tv/ericarei
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>>737117861
>most people didn't grind
That's irrelevant to what there is to do in the game. People choosing to sit in towns to talk doesn't mean the game wasn't designed for grinding to reach higher numbers. I can choose to only grow herbs in terraria, that doesn't mean that the game isn't about exploring and fighting bosses to acquire items or materials to get stronger and take on larger bosses.
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>>737117340
Also i dont think people will really dedicate their entire week to grinding in a game where progress will be wiped as well. But yeah the Accuracy formula is really bad atm
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>>737117861
I was in the FM half the time. The other half was PQing at certain levels, doing long ass quests, and hitting up henehoes like a jeet.
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>>737116009
>Low and behold
It really is a doggy dog world
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>>737118113
Shut the fuck up faggot. you said >>737117685
implying that people grinded back in the day.
they didn't.
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>>737118113
Even then MS wasn't just designed to be grind for the sake of grinding since there was clear unique content you unlocked at later levels, even if it wasn't much.
Still it's worth pointing out that most of people's experience with post 3rd/4th job content wasn't until after BB happened precisely because they made it so much easier to level up.
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>no guilds
This game will be DOA Day ONE
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>already made over $30k selling beta codes
>don't even plan to play the game
nexonpiggies are the best paypigs
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>>737118562
>30k
there aren't even that many keys.
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>>737098514
This is exactly why Maplestory will never return. The game we knew and loved needed the 2005 internet and 2005 world and our 2005 selves to work.
This is the 2026 selves on a jeeted and botted dead internet now.
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>>737118026
god numaple is so soulless
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>>737098821
>Never really played Maplestory
you should have signed up for the beta, you would have gotten a key!
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>kobe was hyping up classic so much
>check his stream
>still just playing KMS instead
kek
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>>737118287
lvling up prebb was hell if you weren't a priest or DK, you really had to love your class enough to endure it
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>>737118782
Probably because there are drastic changes compared to previous tests he joined in on, for no discernible reason.
It's like going over to your coworker's house for steamed hams.
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>>737118782
Well he hit level 15, what the fuck else is there to do? bro it's just fucking vic island. They don't even have the new content.
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>>737118860
nevermind he got filtered and is ragequitting back to classic
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>>737118287
I think that's just cause of how MMOs work. You will eventually reach a point where you're grinding for the sake of grinding. There's never going to be an actual end to content since developers will push out new areas, quests, bosses, whatever, to keep players motivated. At the same time the level cap was 200 while the stuff you could do aside from grinding dried up well before then. They were definitely putting in a buffer to add in new stuff, but that always pushes the point where you'll start grinding just to grind further back.
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>>737118996
>semen meter low
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why is kobe upset?
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>>737119175
he fucked up his bossing and lost cause he's shit.
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>Kobe shitting on classic
LMFAO THE GAME IS DEAD
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>>737119175
>has enough damage to solo hard kaling
>but not the hands
>goes full rant mode about him being a dark knight being the problem because his friend sunny who plays hero can clear just fine with similar damage
>now getting extra filtered because ant tunnel has too many people so his rates are getting fucked
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god classic is so soulless
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fuck off back to your dead general, retards
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no I'll keep posting here, thanks, this thread is lively and discussing classic, the general is mostly for modern.
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go back

>>>/vg/
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Is there really an autist complaining about video games being discussed on /v/?
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Yeah, the trick is to not quote their post, they get EXTREMELY angry. Anyone following the thread can obviously keep track of the conversation anyway.
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>the one tranny thinks we care about his 'im not backlinking' autism
Back to your veegee wage cage moderncuck
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autistic nu-maplers just won't be able to help themselves and will shit up the mscw general on /vg/ too won't they? the seethe is palpable they can't stand the flood of people coming back for classic that wouldn't touch global with a 10ft pole
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a toast! to maple gen posting culture
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>>737098249
Fuck everyone who got in
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>>737120162
i have fun in nu-maple on the reboot servers
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>>737118596
Nigga the game was full of cheaters in 2000s
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>>737120162
classic players spend way more time shit talking nu maple. Nu maple players either play classic too or don't really care about it
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>can't remember my keybinds
>everything I choose feels like shit
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>>737120226
I visited the global general and saw a bunch of people replying to each other without actually quoting. The only other time I've seen behavior like that was a long time ago when I visited the Starcraft general. Why are asians like that? It's kinda funny tho how the brain just makes the obvious connections so you know who is reply to who still and it feels so passive aggressive, it's kinda great tb q h
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>wasting your life on video games

God i hate millenials
Grow the fuck up losers
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>>737098462
Anon, please give this Japanese princess 50 dollars when they stream today. If you give her enough money, she might even play MapleStory with you while she rides her boyfriend.
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well? why don't you shower?
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>>737120505
they're just petty faggots like that is all. depriving someone of a (you) is a le ebin dig
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>>737120462
I just use joy2key.
Use it in modern maple
Use it in classic
Use the joysticks for both mouse movement and mouse clicking so I can just lay down in bed and play without needing to ever get up.
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>Posts on 4chan
Grow up faggot.
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KOBE IS MALDING
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It already has or will have
>Shitty class balance
>p2w elements out the wazoo
>a hacker/farmer infestation
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see? they get inconceivably rabid when you don't quote them, it's funny.
Anyway, classic is just magestory all over again. Which is kind of cool cause it means they're probably using balancing and info from a pre-bb source for valuation to start, and working on it from there.
Bad cause it means magestory again, and the change to hp and mp valuation means that DKs are worthless so now every boss fight will almost certainly be 6 mages.
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>>737120809
One thing I learned recently is that these people do actually shower most of the time but they don't know how deodorant works.
>Aspie showers
>At worst they don't properly wash themselves and lightly stink
>If they use deodorant, it's the cheap type they grew up with
>They SLATHER it on while immediately fresh from the shower
>If they didn't wash properly, this also locks in the "light stink"
>Because they're still not fully dry from the shower, the deodorant mixes with the water and becomes thin
>All of it gets absorbed by the cotton of the shirt they're wearing
>The built-up light stink becomes terrible and they end up walking around with bad body odor anyway
Any anons here, in case you didn't know, the way to use deodorant is
>Wash your armpits with soap and water
>Dry yourself completely
>Swipe your armpits with deodorant just once or twice if non-gel and ONLY one "tick" if using a gel
>Wait a few minutes for it to dry
>Then get dressed
The reason why so many people grew up fucking their shirts up is because they overdid it with deodorant or they used a deodorant that didn't agree with their skin supercharging bacteria growth.
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Girls dont like gamers
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normies don't care about meta
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mage is a woman’s class
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I mean, yeah? why do i have to pretend that the slow lowbie grind, limited content, class imbalance, and the lack of qol is good? The social aspect is just to level faster and it's going to be p2w eventually
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Stop wasting your life on video games and get a grindset mentality
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I like both classic and nu maple. Why must you fight? Both are carved from the same flesh and born from the same womb.
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>>737120456
>hehe we dont really care
>has been seething for the last couple of months
This is the same chimpout Reg servers had with Reboot, and now they join forces to constantly shit on Classic.
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>>737098249
this game is dogshit and i don't understand people's obssession with it, my friend desperately wants to play it but from what i see, it's fucking garbage that doesn't respect your time at all
i'd rather play any other korean F2P than this garbage, I don't think I remember ANY OTHER MMO forcing me to pay 9k just to finish a quest, and thats just one quest, i'm not talking about the others that also force you to pay for random bullshit
and to top it all off, they make the most low level fuckers knock you around like they actually matter and aren't just there to waste time
actual dogshit game
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>>737105417
Lol, the sweats on /v/ don't represent how people actually played maple back then. There were always those sick azns or whatever that minmaxxed the fuck out of everything but they were vastly outnumbered by casuals that didn't give a shit. That type of gamer is extinct now but they did exist at one point and that's how it was and revisionism isn't going to change that fact
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>>737121951
>That type of gamer is extinct now
are you joking lmao, minmaxxing is basically the default now
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>>737121823
no
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>>737121934
It's amazing how much time they take to just camp the threads. I don't care for modern Maple and yet I don't camp their thread. This is some sort of inferiority complex.
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>>737122027
The casual not the minmaxxer
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>>737122159
>why would maplestory players talk about maplestory
also serious passive aggressive projection energy coming off of your post
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Why does maplestory attract so many nasty entitled people? I don't get it. Classic would have been unimaginable just a few years ago and as soon as its announced everyone is making borderline death threats to nexon about it the whole time
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>>737122282
>also serious passive aggressive projection energy coming off of your post
He never saw himself in the mirror before.
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so uhh... where's the second wave of keys?
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>>737122470
It's not an issue here, but in general. There's a lot of people who misunderstand how Nexon works, with them seeing Maplestory itself as one giant entity with limited resources instead of multiple teams working entirely segregated from one another outside of a handful of people. Right now, Classic is "causing flak" because there's a growing sentiment that Inkwell is diverting resources from the GMS team to produce it, and since there's a lot of issues with modern Maplestory, it leaves people embittered.
Similarly, there are people in KMS who think that it's unfair that GMS gets so many "buffs and benefits" and either stoke the fire or try to join it outright, leading to things like the Classic codes being sold and guides on how to navigate the English version for Korean players. There are a lot of comments criticizing GMS for "not following KMS" since it's supposed to be "first", especially when GMS announced it'll be taking itself into new directions and when the Shine branch of classes released.
So to answer that question, it's because there are a bunch of retards, Koreans, and retarded Koreans all quick to voice their opinions on everything.
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Why would there be a second wave?
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>>737122776
NTA you're not (You)ing (that's this guy: >>737122740) but Inkwell said he's sending out more codes yesterday.
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No announcement on any official channel, why would it happen?
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>>737122763
>be inkwell
>okay we will try to communicate more with people!
>somehow communication gets worse and becomes straight up completely silent about anything but classic
curious isn't it? GMS is literally the only region that doesn't get roadmaps for updates for example. Hell even Global Maple M gets fucking roadmaps.
The way Inkwell handles GMS does not inspire much confidence in Classic at all.
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>>737122740
Nexon is selling keys on Ebay
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It's funny how fondly I look back on Maplestory when I know I got frustrated because my main was clearly the worst class, and I ragequit when the game told me to go to the second continent and I immediately got stuck after going the wrong way and falling down some lego block looking tower. The game's feel good vibes were immaculate.
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>>737123032
even SEA, which isn't run by nexon at all, and is run by one of the worst rated gaming companies on the planet, worse than EA when accounting for player pop percentages, has better communication. It's crazy. They also run events in person every year and have for like 15 years, and when GMS tries they rent a gigantic warehouse and have nothing to do, on par with that willy wonka experience ass shit.
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So the changes heavily nerfed sins and made Iron Arrow only hit 4 mobs instead of 6, but they actually BUFFED cleric with 3-hit Holy Arrow? lol lmao
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>>737123196
We only know about 2nd job right now though, which isn't really relevant until we see 3rd job balance
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>>737122763
its not just GMS's skeleton crew diverting resources, its always been the sentiment among modern maplers that classic sucked and nexon is wasting time on something that will be defunct in 6 months because 'people will get bored, dont know how hard it was, rose tinted goggles, etc'. Classic maple continued to be highly requested by a section of the playerbase ever since the RED update (to the point they had to ban discussions of it on the official forums) and every time it got shut down by modern maplers.
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>>737123323
>the class you're stuck grinding on for 1000+ hours to get from 30 to 70 isn't relevant
nah
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>>737123362
I don't think classic sucks, but unless it gets actual consistent support with new interesting content it will die because only genuine autistic grinders are going to stick around otherwise.
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>>737121823
>Just grind your life away for paper so you can be a slave to the state and/or some soulless foid
No thanks.
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So what's gonna be the actual longevity of Classic? knowing Nexon this is just to funnel people over to actual MS.

>let classic run for X amount of time
>milk whales for as much as possible
>pull the plug on classic
>allow people to transfer their characters/cosmetics over
>have everyone on numaple
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Classic as it was sucked. It could be made better, but if you change it to add in all the qol like downjump, better mobility on all classes, and bosses that aren't just walls with bullshit "haha you die" shit like marionette in ht, it's no longer classic, it's just modern maple. Classic is going to die off and the reason people keep saying it is because we literally have 20 years of data to back this up, the game doesn't have legs. The new content they're making is going to have to do extremely heavy lifting to keep people engaged, because most people will not be engaged with the intense grind. Even with heavy multipliers like the worlds games (Artale, nextale, chrono, mapleland) people quit before hitting 3rd, 4th, MAYBE.
Again, this is not a guess this is not "Well maybe" we literally have seen hundreds of pservers rise and fall and the data is almost universally concurring that people do not play past a certain point, and that point is the fucking slog of 50-70.
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>>737121823
What' the end goal of this whole "grindset" thing everyone screeches about?
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>>737123685
The issue is nuMaple is SO fucking different from classic they don't really appeal to the same audience. It's like the split between OSRS and nuRS, the games fundamentally do different things, even more than Classic vs Retail WoW.
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>>737123509
Most mobbing in 2nd job is from 3~4 monsters.
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>>737123685
true, we should just not play classic and start playing on nu-maple since it is inevitable that it's just some trick by Nexon
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>>737123685
The best guess I've seen is that they're going to try and run it to fill in the slower months of regular updates for mainline, and alternate major events. winter modern, spring classic, summer modern, fall classic.
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>>737123741
turning house slaves back into field slaves
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>>737123735
Is numaple worth getting into? I played when I was younger, like in the early 2000s. I was gonna wait and try classic but I don't wanna spend a bunch of time playing it for them to just shut it down.
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>>737123520
I mean it already got exclusive content from the get-go, plus they have years of event assets to work with. I wouldn't worry about content more so than class balance and revenue strategy. Plus I don't know if you've missed the discussion, but casuals were a mainstay in old maple and will be classic (just as they are in modern maple and literally every other MMO)
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just for reference as to why I personally am shitting on it, it's because GMS is doing terribly, they are supposed to be piloting and pioneering this whole thing.
Meanwhile china has 300k registered signups (why weren't we shown the number? Mostly because there were probably 750k or some ludicrous number)
also they let you pre-register names for your characters.
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>>737123774
I've never played runescape, it just looked so fucking bad I never even bothered. I also didn't play wow until the near end of cata and only played until like the end of Throne of Thunder (MOP) so classic means fuck all to me too.
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i sorta wana get back into maple again. I had fun as a thunderbreaker in reboot. But i saw the game has a big mechanic behind having multiple alts and it kills the drive for me.
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>>737123874
How many of those sign ups (assuming you mean beta) were just bot accounts so people could sell keys for $200?
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>>737123843
No, I gave it a shot a few months ago and there's fucking nothing I enjoyed. You basically get handholded past all the content I once loved and to all the shitty new stuff
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>>737123843
It's a tough question. The game is a grind, literally, all it is is grind. I don't think they'll shut it down, honestly, unless it does VERY poorly. I think it will be kept alive and maybe they do seasonal ladders/races rather than continue to update it if it's not popular. The seasonal server thing has been doing gangbusters for modern maplestory.

Anyway, modern, yeah, there's 50-ish classes, most of them are quite similar. This is bad because besides a few standouts, they all FEEL very similar (standouts being ilium, mo xuan, kinesis [soon to be gutted], cadena, khali). But it's also good because them being so similar means balancing is usually very simple, and most classes are viable from start to endgame.

Everything is solo-oriented. All bosses are designed with solos in mind, even if not at launch, eventually, they WILL be soloed, the devs know this and make all content with that in mind, so it never feels awful to solo shit and you also don't HAVE to deal with big faggy groups of people.

Reboot (now called 'heroic') is a less p2w version of the game, where the main costs are vac pets (Which are a pet that suck up items in a very large range around you, named after the vac hack which you probably remember where hackers sucked up all items on the map), but the cubes are bought with mesos, and there's no scrolling to contend with. This server has no trading between players. This of course means you grind a lot more to make the mesos to buy the cubes, since you can't sell dupes off.

Interactive are the trade-enabled 'traditional' mmo experience, while heroic is more like ironman sorta shit. Heroic is WAY more populated on gms. like 80-20 at the very least. Possibly more disparate nowadays.
I enjoy modern maple for almost nothing besides bossing. Events are all identical to one another with a new skin, but the bosses are the most engaging in any MMO I've ever played. You need hands.
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>>737123685
the first two points are plausible, the last three are nowhere near realistic, Nexon has only ever pulled the plug on KMS reboot even when GMS reboot was a better candidate.
>So what's gonna be the actual longevity of Classic?
Old school pservers have been running fine for well over decade, at one point they nearly had as many players as official maple (before the covid influx).
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>>737123843
yes, most of the problems of old maple were ironed out and all the classes feel strong and mobile. The problem is playing the grindy endgame with its weekly quotas and legion management
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What are you thinking of Classic so far?
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Classic will die unless they address the issues that plague private servers.
No one wants to make 3 characters on 3 separate accounts just to be optimal for buffs.
No one wants to HP wash.
No one wants the market flooded with chinese farming bots.
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>>737124003
on GMS we don't have public facing numbers, but we do know there were botfarms being run to collect keys. I'd wager, like I said, probably somewhere in the realm of 750k signups. I personally signed up with all 10 of my accounts (back when kannas were still usable as frenzy analogs I had lots of alts to make cash) and got 1 key, I know there were lots of people who signed up with at least 10 accounts, many in the realm of 25-50.
Most of the signups were bots though, 0 question.
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>>737123843
>>737123967
are your brains fried and dead enough to enjoy something as retarded as this?
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>>737124248
More information I get from this closed test, the more I feel they will do open test and launch pushing further. There seems to be things they either really need to crunch hard if they want to fix fast and even then more testing like this might be needed.
Actual players are showing and bringing up issues that seemed to completely miss them.
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>>737124426
I don't know what's going on
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>>737124367
>multiboxing for buffs
fixed, hyper body is not necessary, blessing isn't necessary.
>hp washing
removed in classic
>chinese farming bots
won't be fixed sadly, nexon refuses to police their games, they probably coordinate with the farms to get a cut like how it works on PoE. This will never be fixed until games start demanding verification of users on a level that anyone with any brain will not accept, so it's a stalemate.
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>>737124367
>No one wants to HP wash.
im sure this was confirmed to not be present in classic
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What profession is best? Mage? Bowman or warrior??
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>>737124367
>multi-account
This is really hard to stop unless they have active mods banning people. Which would be easier on private servers like royals but even they gave up and straight up allow it now.
>HP wash
I think they actually did change the mechanics on this. Everyone has more HP and MP at base and washing doesn't work anymore.
>bots
Same as the first problem.
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>>737124468
an extremely low bitrate webm.

Guy is dodging gigantic gold and purple indicators, and attacking the boss. It's not that complex.
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>>737121823
I love how he uses all this inspiration just to tell people to make money, lol. Truly zogged nation of peoples.
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>>737124367
>No one wants the market flooded with chinese farming bots.
literally every mmo ever has had this problem and theres never been a solution except if you have active gms checking the reported accounts. But now with AI for all you know they might program the accounts to respond to shit anyone says on the map at a certain delay.
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Is Kobe /ourguy/? Or is it dinofries?
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>>737124739
dinofries is the most annoying weird performative jew ever and he has untrustworthy eyes
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>>737124528
In the current meta, Mage.

Warrior is the worst.
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>>737124173
>The game is a grind, literally, all it is is grind

Anyone who has played this game knows this, and that's part of the appeal.

>I think it will be kept alive and maybe they do seasonal ladders/races rather than continue to update it if it's not popular

Seasonal game sounds concerning

>there's 50-ish classes

Guess this is good and bad, you can choose "I like X weapon and choose a class with that"

>balancing is usually very simple, and most classes are viable from start to endgame

This is also good because then you don't have to worry about your main being gutted


>Everything is solo-oriented

This is even better because I don't want to have to deal with other people

>is a less p2w version of the game, where the main costs are vac pets

How P2W is normal. The reviews make it seem like the stingiest gacha with no pity, I also heard the vac pets are like $100 initially and $15 a month after like 3(?) but considering the utility they provide if you play a lot I guess the cost is worth it

>cubes are bought with mesos, and there's no scrolling to contend with

I don't remember what this is

>bossing

I never made it far enough to kill bosses when I played but I always wanted to kill zakum.

>you'll need hands

I assume you'll need a lot of keys? I play with an azeron cyborg and a g502 (swift point z3 when it releases) so I don't think this will be a problem


I haven't seen anything that point to "numaple isn't for me" and from the streams I've seen watching the screen be deleted with fuck huge numbers is always really satisfying. It's like PoE screen clearing but you don't have to worry about seasons.
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>>737121823
>just be a walking scrotum like me bro and do steroids so your dick is limp unless you are hooked on test bro just make money for bitches bro bro
No.
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>>737124484
>>737124510
>>737124534
>hp washing is gone
So warriors are worthless now? Got it.
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>>737123843
You will enjoy it at first, but you'll get bored once you find out all classes are essentially the same FJ+FMA grindset, that you'll find the game is more of a daily chore (dailies/weeklies, fomo check in events, minmax sustain systems like familiars and legion artifact, etc) and actual progression is locked behind rng. The bosses are actually the only thing about modern maple thats worth playing, it may look visual clutter but its simple once you get familiar with it.
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>>737124602
Try to deny this
Protip you cant
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>>737124658
>never been a solution
korea did great with it, still does great with it. Require real life verification. You have to tie a check card or postpaid mobile phone plan which both require ARCs or identity cards, which are not something you can get an infinite amount of.
The west loves to sell it's data though so you can't trust the privacy would remain in tact if they DID try it. I mean, look at discord and roblox, not even 1y after implementation they both had breaches and lost millions of accounts worth of data.
>>737124739
Kobe has been in the english KMS scene for 15~ years now, I trust his opinion at least.
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>>737124426
looks fun compared to classic tbqh
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>>737098249
I had to reactivate my account
waiting for it to let me log in
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>>737124827
Yep hate that guy
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>>737124838
hp washing was only for weak noobs like sins and clerics
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>>737124827
dinofries is italian
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>>737124528
As of right now, Cleric is the best.
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>>737124426
Yeah. I really like PoE and Satisfactory so seeing big numbers and optimizing those numbers brings me great joy.
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>>737124367
>No one wants the market flooded with chinese farming bots.
Chinese bots actually saved the game economy at one point because Nexon can't do math and figure out how to balance supply and demand.
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>>737124426
ubel pussy...
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Ryambi is level 43 as a bandit. How does he do it?
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>>737125037
Oh man, the Chinese farmers saved the market it one time out of the hundreds they've fucked the markets in online games with economies. Let them all in boys.
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>>737125143
this but unironically
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>>737121951
>That type of gamer is extinct now but they did exist at one point and that's how it was and revisionism isn't going to change that fact
Like I said, I played GMS MapleStory beta. There is no revisionism. Anyone with a brain figured out that you make a Mage to fund your other characters. How do I know that? Because I was a retarded kid in middle school who had never played an MMO before and even I figured it out. Later, once I had some capital, I started buying and reselling scrolls to make money because that ended up being way faster due to how stupid everyone was, but I was a kid and I figured it out. Anyone who didn't figure it out was just a retard.

Now, I didn't figure out or care about Dexless shit, and that didn't even really exist until towards the tail end of the beta when I was too high level to want to start over, but there is no revisionism occurring here. I'm am only describing what happened. And apparently it's something zoomers don't know about, because some retard is marveling that Mages do more damage than their unfunded characters at an earlier level.
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>>737125143
Yes
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>>737123032
Yeah I think this is the point people don't really get when modern players shit on classic players. The current GMS communication strategy is literally
>patch notes
>bugs inevitably show up
>bugs beneficial to the player get fixed almost immediately while detrimental bugs are left outstanding
>hours to day long maintenance on top of the already long maintenance to update the game
>players get upset at the mishandling of the update
>apology note with promises for something alongside immediate freebies
>patch notes, said thing that was promised is incredibly underwhelming
For fucks sake the only thing relevant to modern maple in the inkwell note from January was that the Shine classes would continue to be supported and they would "look into current gameplay systems."
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>>737124835
Seasonal is what maple is, unfortunately. Solstice updates are large updates that span 2-3 months worth of events and usually 3 major patches that drop content in between. The last 10~ years have traditionally been either a new major boss, or a new area, sometimes both, and every 2 or 3 patches is a new class, which has slowed down some lately.

>how p2w is normal
Also tough to explain, GMS is unique because every other version of the game did away with paid cubes (a potential upgrade system where you buy a cube, use it on gear, and get a set of 3 random lines rolled that can do things like give you x% additional stat or damage, or 15 jump, or MP or HP which are all worthless stats), and they're free everywhere. GMS only has 'free' cubes on heroic servers. They're still paid for real cash on interactive. Most events give them out in the double to sometimes triple digits though, so it very rarely becomes a genuine issue to cube things, until you get into minmaxing and trying to get 'perfect' rolls to be able to more quickly solo bosses.

>I always wanted to kill zakum
lucky you, there are 3 versions now. Two are the classic zakum you know, one is "Chaos" zakum reborn, an updated version that has new mechanics like tunneling under the map and shooting wide lasers that you have to be on platforms to avoid. It's one of the first weekly bosses you'll solo too, so you can reach it in very little time, under a week.
>you'll need a lot of keys
surprisingly, not really. Most classes have on main mobbing skill, and a rota of burst skills. And you can nowadays macro the burst skills to a single key press. If you WANT to press a lot of keys, Cadena is great. She uses a chain-whip as her weapon, and all of her skills are combo oriented and heavily positional, so you will basically lay out sets of attacks to weave around. There's also blaster, who has a steady 3 button combo you repeat to get optimal damage.

If you want to, try it. Nothing to be lost. Go on Kronos.
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https://ohmi69.github.io/osms_datamine_dashboard/#monsters
>MSclassic
>Snail
>45 hp, 2 exp

https://ems.hidden-street.net/monster/snail
>Pre BB MS
>Snail
>8 hp, 3 exp

Are the hp/exp ratios genuinely this fucked?
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>>737124426
Classic is just spamming your skill on identically behaving mobs then using heal potions
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>>737121823
>>737124848
>go check who that guy is
>Andy Elliott is the most Intense and elite sales trainer in the world
>sales trainer
Given the chance he'd betray his own kin for 2 shekels.
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Powerful

This is why women rule the world
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>>737124848
DUDE JUST EXERCISE

This is a fucking meme

>decide to try out the exercise meme (cycling/running)
>really enjoy it
>get to a point where I don't let myself do anything else I enjoy becasue "I haven't gone out yet"
>barely do anything else I enjoy now even after going out becasue it took me so long to go out
>don't feel like going out
>brain says "but you put in so much work, you put all this time and it's going to waste"
>"but I really don't want to go out"
>get in a cycle of this
>start to look more forward to taking days off than I do to going out
>eventually stop all together
>still feel like shit all the time because I used to put so much effort/time into and now it's all going to waste
>start again after a few months
>fall back into the same cycle
>remember back before I did all this shit and enver had any of these worries

I will say I do feel good when I actually go out and I feel good when I get back but those feeling never last and the "feel good" period gets shorter and shorter every time
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how are nu-maplefags not embarrassed by this?
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>>737125250
>unfunded characters
I didn't play in beta but I did play when GMS launched. It was universally recognized that thieves required mesos to play because the barrier to entry was the cost of stars (very expensive due to nosebergs). It was common sense.
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>>737125515
Real niggas just thugged it out.
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>>737125513
by what?
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>>737125120
I assume these skins/classes are gacha and you have to spend no less than $300 just to get one and even more to get the one you want? Is there actual collab content or is it just cosmetic stuff?
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>>737125421
retard
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/msg/ here we hate classic and wish it dies, come play numaple
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>>737125596
The actual collab content was demon slayer (You played as tanjiro, a whole class), and one punch man (a whole world where you played as saitama and monster spawn rates were boosted like 40-50x so you killed a thousand of everything like a mobile game with every button press, it was fun).
The frieren collab is like 80% cosmetic, there's a few quests to do to get free things, a mount, a chair, and an android. The clothes are all gacha though, yeah.
There's no minimum spend, no lucky draws or anything, just low rates. But in every region besides GMS you just go on the auction house and buy it from someone else who got it. Even the most expensive shit never costs more than like two characters worth of weekly bossing so it's easy to get. GMS because it's all repoop can't trade and that's how they make their money, so people will spend $5000 to get it and suffer through dupes.
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>>737125576
truth
one of my best friends was a bandit that toughed it out until he got groomed by a college chick that played a cleric
was smooth sailings for him for me too kinda after
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>>737125513
bright, colorful flashing lights make my brain happy
big flashing numbers make my brain happy

I don't know what that fairy thing is but I like it as well.

I think I'm going to try out the game
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>>737125775
Naw.
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>>737125829
What is GMS? Global maplestory?
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>>737124835
>seasonal
Yes and no, while it has long term progression without resets, major events often boost progression by a ton. Trying to get into maple without a hyper burn active and without one is a massive difference for example.
There is also Challenger World which is straight up seasonal but that's for gearing up new characters and it's completely optional.
>watching the screen be deleted with fuck huge numbers is always really satisfying
Honestly I would just say give it a try and see if you like it. There's a lot of number go up systems and it can be really satisfying to overcome late game bosses.
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>>737125913
yeah, global, western maple. the service hosting classic as well.
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I hate niggers spics beaners wetbacks and gooks
Can i still play this game?
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>>737124848
>if you're depressed it's because you don't love yourself
True but I'm happy without a six-pack
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>>737125515
Yeah, I really don't understand why these zoomers who didn't play MapleStory back then are trying to rewrite history like this. If you just "thugged it out" then you probably didn't play the game for very long because you went broke.
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/ourguy/ Kobe is streaming classic

https://www.twitch.tv/isiinggunz
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>>737125513
holy soulless
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>>737124835
Even reboot is pay2win, it costs $1500/3 months to get these monthly benefits. If you don't spend that much in 3 months they take it away.
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>>737125978
>I hate gooks
>Literal gook game
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>>737125360
You also deal significantly more damage. Not sure why they inflated the numbers so much.
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>>737125978
No because any MMO with western servers will be predominately ESL.
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>>737123843
lots of boring childish unskippable long ass cutscenes

although i saw on r*ddit the other day that apparently you can alt + f4 and load back into the game to skip them
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>>737126094
none of those are necessary though.
All it is is shortcuts besides superpower buffs (Which you can just buy on the AH anyway).
And the 10% off star force, that one's OP, can't lie.
the entire right side is just shortcuts. Shit you can do in an hour or can pay $500/mo to skip lmao
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>>737103352
you are a fuckin idiot
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>>737125978
Maple story IS a gook game.
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>>737126094
>$1500
>3 months

Surely that's not USE or a typo?
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>>737126249
Yeah he's bullshitting, it's actually $3000 for MVP black
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>>737126204
>unskippable
???
when's the last time you played, 2014? literally every single cutscene can be skipped just by hitting esc since 2018, and they let you outright skip tutorials for new characters at the start since last year.
>>737126249
no it's true, you have to charge, and then actually spend through $3000 in a rolling 3 month period.
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>>737126249
Nope, you've been warned. Shills don't even mention these exist and will come to say they are not needed and you can play f2p.
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>>737126381
>when's the last time you played
2024
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>>737126386
>don't even mention them
why the fuck is it relevant? No one but whales has them, because it's $3000 every 3 months, it's an unreasonable amount that no normal person is spending.
You CAN play f2p, what in that list is required to play? Please, tell me and everyone else.
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>>737125360
https://bbb.hidden-street.net/monster/taurospear
>Pre Big Bang Taurospear
>18,000 HP
>350 exp
https://ohmi69.github.io/osms_datamine_dashboard/#monsters
>Classic Maple Taurospear
>6,258 HP
>350 exp
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>>737126386

Does this apply to those f2p servers? It seems like it's just EXP boosts right and some mvp lounge? Unless you want to get like 100+ levels in a day I don't see why would need any of this more than what, once, if even at all?
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>>737098249
do warriors need dex in this? i only play warrior class
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>>737125775
based
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>>737126632
>anime
Grow up loser
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>>737126606
Yes.
https://ohmi69.github.io/osms_datamine_dashboard/#equipment
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>>737125513
god I hate sⲟy faggots so much
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>>737124848
I'm literally a millionaire and I'm still suicidal. I used to lift and then I realized it's pointless. I don't miss eating full time either
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>>737126601
Yes, it applies to all servers. A supermajority of whales are on those 'f2p' servers, btw.
The main things of value in the list are the star force reduction (starforce is the endgame upgrade track for gear, you have 30 'stars' you can upgrade and the success gets lower and the cost gets higher, you will end up spending billions of mesos per attempt. so 10% can be the difference between 5 hours of grinding and 4 per attempt.), and the permanently available hyper teleport rock (instantaneous teleports to any map.) That one's less valuable because you can just teleport using the ingame teleport system instead of the world map to get to all but a very tiny number of worthwhile maps, and then walk the extra 20 seconds. Lots of convenience, but that's really it.
The "lounge" is crazy op though, you get ENORMOUS exp drops every few seconds in there. Still not necessary though, again, just a nice to have and won't help you if you suck ass at fighting the bosses (Which you will if you just throw money at levels, and people WILL judge you for it and blacklist your ass from endgame parties if you fuck up runs)
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>>737126708
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oKr11Vt28lY
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>>737126601
Yeah it's an indirect way to pay2win on Reboot.
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piss off bennybear shit
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>>737126743
>OH MY GOD ARE THOSE SATURATED COLORS? I HECKIN LOVE BRIGHT EXPLOSIONS AND FLASHY LASERS AND NUMBERS ALL AROUND ME AAAAAAAHHHHH
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>>737125513
embarrassed by better class balance and classes being more fun to play? embarrassed by actual content? which is it?
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>>737125838
>"thugged it out"
>actually got carried by a girl
kek
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>>737126601
It does, but yes the rewards are mainly just QoL benefits and the stuff like the exp coupons aren't that big of a deal at all. For example most events absolutely drown you in 3x exp coupons and most people do not go through all of them.

I would say the biggest benefits from MVP are being able to insta complete dailies/weeklies (but only on one character so it doesn't save nearly as much time as you would think) and being able to use 3 cubes at a time instead of only 1 which saves a good chunk of time when going for multiple prime lines.
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>>737126473
The only thing that is substantial is the 10% off on star forcing.
>exp boosts
>monster park and epic dungeon passes
Time savers
>constant spell trace fever
Useless on reboot, on reg servers it means you don't have to wait until weekends to scroll items
>sol erda
Useless on reboot since fragments are the limiting factor, 10 sol erda a month on reg is pathetic compared to the amount you get from grinding
>3 resets for potential and bonus stats
Purely a time saver, you still need 3 cubes to use this option this does not give you free rolls
>death penalty exemptions
This only applies to dying outside of boss arenas, and if you somehow die there you are not paying attention
>permanent hyper teleport rock
The game nowadays lets you teleport to towns at anytime and maps to grind at with a cooldown. In the actual level range where the game takes place you will most likely find your preferred grinding spot and that's that for the next several weeks, you are not going to be teleporting enough to warrant needing this.
>10% off star force
This is good, on reboot not necessarily as the limiting factor for star force will be having enough copies of equipment to brute force the item, but on reg servers saving 10% means more mesos to buy items from other players
As the other anon put it, to do the bosses you will need to actually know how to fight them otherwise you won't get anywhere. You can reach the point where you can attempt the bosses faster, but that doesn't mean you'll have the skill to clear them.
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>>737127128
Ain't nothing more thug than being pookie.
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>>737126708
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>>737127075
Zoomers literally do not understand what they're looking at unless its done like this
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>dark sight straight up makes you completely invisible to other players to the point players think GMs are messing with them by dropping items while invisible
SOUL
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>>737126708
That's just about the only sensible thing that effeminate, bald faggot ever said.
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>>737127179
the 10% only applies up to the 17th star and does not reduce the safeguard cost (x1.9) so the actual savings from tapping to 22 are significantly smaller than you think
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>>737126743
How the hell can anyone look at that shit and not feel utter disgust?
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>>737098249
Heh, I'm 20 years older than when I started playing. And worse off in every way. at least I'm not an mmo/gacha addict I guess.
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Should Maplestory Classic have Resistance classes?
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>>737128027
IS THAT?!
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>>737125513
this seems better than the 10 second long cutscenes
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WHERE THE FUCK IS THE TAXI IN HENNESYS? HOW AM I SUPPOSE TO GET TO ELLINIA?
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https://meowdb.com/msclassic/tier-list
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>>737128339
all the way to the left of the map
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>>737128358
This is a trash list. Cleric is not the best class.
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>>737124940
on second thought you might actually be right
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>>737128358
dits are highest single target dps?

kinda makes me want to play one again, but everything after SB is boring
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>>737128470
It is, objectively, the best class with dungeon as endgame.
When forgotten hollow comes out, f/p will be best because they're fire weak.
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>>737128215
No
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>>737128470
Cleric makes your life a lot easier
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Why the fuck is leveling so slow? Boring Ass gay Ass game. Going back to normal maplestory fuck this crap

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