>>557389586
You don't have to keep making these

>>557391985
True, but I'm sure some people still want to discuss the game here

nornmin

>>557392076
What the actual fuck gave you that idea? There hasn't been a single meaningful discussion in here since fucking September, and I'm being generous.

>>557396472
Tell the [other] to stop derailing then

at least we'll always have sarah's butt

>>557391985
>You don't have to keep making these
it's all gothtroon has anon

>>557403456
Gothtroon isn't the one making these, and he usually hangs out in /cp77g/ from what I hear

>>557404947
Not since they kicked him out or he left or something

>>557403456
>>557404947
>>557408548
how do you faggots know any of this. what are you doing with your lives

>>557408903
You must not browse /vg/ enough. People don't stick to only one general, and /vg/ being a smaller, arguably less retarded community than /v/ means more people easily recognize each other, especially by posting habits.

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>>557409430

lole

Stand up

Join us

Would Sarah have more appeal if she was a single mom?

>>557434159
She becomes a single mom in her loyalty mission and nothing changes because she's also a terrible mom most likely because shes being a mom to your grown ass man ass

>>557434425
This site is full of anons who want mommy girlfriends

>>557434590
Well Todd wasn't serving. So go try somewhere else. Serana is old enough to be your mommy

>>557434725
>Serana is old enough to be your mommy
In that case, you're technically old enough to be Sarah's father.

>>557435108
What?

>>557435272
Serana is thousands of years older than the Dragonborn, you in real life are hundreds of years older than Sarah since Starfield takes place in 2330

>>557435467
This is the kind of logic pedos use to justify crushing on a 700 pre-teen vampire girl

>>557435776
Pretty sure some anons are using Skyrim mods for that exact purpose, I know I've seen someone either in /tesg/ or /v/ post a pic of a lolified Serana.

>>557435906
Okay well don't bring that shit over here, please?

>>557435906
Oh, and I forgot to account for Babette

>>557435958
It was already over here with that one anon showing interest in Cora

>>557434159
No that would make her less popular actually.

Starborn powers kinda make me want to play Soul Reaver again, though I'mma wait for the Remaster to get discounted first

No updates.
Dead game, dead studio.

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Can't wait for the updated NAF

>>557454723
Same. Whole bunch of mods relying on SFSE dropped and I can't even use them since I'm still on the Nov 2024 update just to use NAF

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>when you're out on patrol for spacers and your partner throws you that crusader stare

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>I paid for mods
It's over vigilance is pretty good

>>557459782
Easy to get lost in that big facility, but otherwise a very content rich mod

Are the mod tools still unreleased?

>>557463996
No, they were released like 2 years ago

>>557464983
fully?

>>557465117
yea, there's zero interest in modding a dead game

>>557465117
Yes. If you're asking about animation tools, that's likely never coming as Bethesda has never released these kind of tools for their games, modders have always had to make their own 3rd party tools.

>>557391985
It makes (You) upset so yes, we do

>>557434159
>Would Sarah have more appeal if she was a single mom?
Sarah would have more appeal if she weren't a judgmental harpy. I empathize with her but her personality is penis repellant.

>>557475085
>[Sarah Disliked That]

>>557478197
>[Barrett Liked That]
>[Sam Loved That]

Walter and Isa sitting in a tree

Can't lurk 4chan at work so no more it's ups from me

>>557478197
>>557479097
Andreja didn't even react

Tonight the music seems so loud

the music stopped

Did you spend time Valentine's Day with your romanced companion, /stag/?

>>557536723
How did I fuck that post up?

>>557454723
Does it have titty physics yet or are those things made out of concrete?

>>557537457
SFF (the one I use) and Milky Way Vixens both have titty and booty physics

Seems like this will be a pretty cool quest mod once it comes out. There's even a part where you can fly your ship through an asteroid
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a4_-sUUf8uE

>>557544068
oof, that's a yikes.

>>557544068
An issue that was present even in older Bethesda games. Starfield's body mod scene is decent now, but it still has a ways to go before it reaches 3BA/BHUNP levels.

>>557544068
post sarah like this

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>>557551157
Thankfully she reverts to the Constellation space suit when I strip her of literally everything.

>>557555773
You're gonna need to open xEdit and make yourself a patch that flags her spacesuit as playable in order to be able to strip that, otherwise it will be invisible to you.

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>>557556176
>all those steps to see hag mammaries
No thanks

sarah should be nude

>>557556379
lol here, use mine.
https://litter.catbox.moe/3f17lqetlnu9lqbc.rar

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>>557556964
not downloading random rars nigga

>>557557325
Alright then, have it as just the plugin file. I don't know why litterbox renames files as it should say Undressable Companion.esm
https://litter.catbox.moe/hbhcx0f5nayy3vuw.esm

no new mods
star warstrek only things in a year
it's over, over.

>>557557992
Not working. Dropped it into the main folder and added it to the plugins. Based Todd doesn't want me to see hag titties.

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>>557560907
That's weird, it should show Sarah's Spacesuit as an item in her inventory you can remove or unequip.

please just get sarah naked

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>>557561737
She's naked in mine

>>557562026
based

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>Radiant Bounty quests are STILL bugged
>thought Trackers Alliance Mission Board mod would fix it
>didn't and removed it
>Cydonia TA Agent's space rogue muscle gear's top became latex
PS: Jannies body mods are /stag/ related. The absolute state of (You)

>>557562889
You didn't do a good job of censoring the naughty bits. kek

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>>557563091
Oh no a hint of areola.

I did it and I loled

>>557536723
No, I didn't talk to any NPC in a flirtatious manner since I created my character
I'm level 29 btw

Everything little thing I do never seems enough you

Starfield was a mistake.

You are a mistake

Any hopes for the rumoured Starfield 2.0?

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>>557435467
>Serana is thousands of years older than the Dragonborn, you in real life are hundreds of years older than Sarah since Starfield takes place in 2330
For me it' Amelia.

>>557598390
>Any hopes for the rumoured Starfield 2.0?
supposedly they're working on the PS5 port.

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would you let this very obvious jihadi in your bar?

>>557599471
I shoot browns on sight.

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>>557599934
[laughs in serpent]

>>557599934
He says while never holding a gun against a real person irl

>>557601697
Have you?

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>>557603889
I did..... and that person was me

Down?

>>557465316
>yea, there's zero interest in modding a dead game
There's 12000 mods in the Nexus.

>>557617761
And how many players actually using them? Dipshit. I bet you can think of a million things that were made that nobody asked for, used or remember.

>>557598390
At this point my only hope is that VI has sailing and whatever ship/space improvements they're working on for TA carry over to that.

>>557618352
U mad bro?

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>>557618352
This is the best you could come up with? Lmao.

>>557618352
They clocked you up ngl

>>557618352
You sound pretty butthurt, anon

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Another day another pirate scum not getting throated.

>>557633041
Don't worry, I've give it to her on your behalf

>>557617761
>There's 12000 mods in the Nexus.
>it's all recolors or translations

>>557638428
There's no tags to filter out recolors, but translations only accounts for approx 2000 mods. Filtered out, you have 10,000+ left

Animations(80)
Appearance(178)
Armor(160)
Audio(304)
Characters(575)
Clothing(1,268)
Companions(180)
Crafting(100)
Environment(247)
Gameplay(1,536)
Items(229)
Locations(79)
Miscellaneous(745)
Modders Resources(147)
Outposts(255)
Perks and Skills(205)
Planets(63)
Player Home(112)
Quests(76)
Races(4)
Ships(848)
Space Suits(222)
User Interface(611)
Utilities(151)
Vehicles(54)
Visuals(1,110)
Weapons(823)

Rest in Peace Robert Duvall

>>557638986
most of your list is recolors

>>557639106
>Robert Duvall
Were they in Starfield?

>>557655131
Can you prove it?

>>557655167
>Were they in Starfield?
He was the voice actor for Sarah.
They made sure to find an actor that was the same age as the character like they did with Dumbledore.

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>>557656394
>He was the voice actor for Sarah.

>>557656394
>old
Ah i see

>>557639106
Is he the brother of GTA 6's protagonist Jason Duvall?

>>557658258
Oh fuck I forgot about GTAIV. Time to ditch this dumpster fire of a game. Thanks anon!

>>557658258
Might be a relative to The Shining's Shelley Duvall

>>557658373
>IV
slavslop

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>>557655568
>Can you prove it?
first page, mostly recolor

>>557667016
>first page
lol

>>557667524
ok show me different.
I don't care how you organize it, it's still shit.

I have a vanilla + sharted space save from forever ago.
All quests done, all planets mapped. Waiting for a reason to enter unity or continue.
It's been there for so long.

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>>557667769

>>557668336
fuck yea delayed starts

>>557676695
It's up

>>557687526
I lied, it's down actually

OMG stop going down!

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Why the fuck am I autistically arranging food items on my ship?

>>557716770
Hope your room is as tidy as your ship

>150 procedurally generated space station dungeons
That had to been a ton of work assuming they're of decent quality
https://www.nexusmods.com/starfield/mods/16025

>>557716770
>Why the fuck am I autistically arranging food items on my ship?
There's nothing else to do in the game.

>>557716770
I have one memory of trying to arrange things in Skyrim and having the game just chuck it all around when I loaded back in so I never did it again. Did they fix that shit? I can't imagine NPCs don't just walk right past this shit and knock it all about or the physics just wigging out and ruining it all.

>>557723247
>Did they fix that shit?
Yes, using the decorator interface

>>557721143
>in the middle of trying this mod out
>one of the locations a mission is based in is Serpentis, a high difficulty starsystem
Well shit. Gonna have to temporarily enable god mode for now until I land on a planet since I haven't visited this area in the new universe, and haven't dealt with Watchtower in this location yet either.

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Alright, here's one of those spacestations

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The enemies are high leveled here

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lol at all that ass jiggle

>>557731961
looks like fun, anon..

>>557732070
Fun is subjective

>>557732289
mhm..

>>557732756
Urameshi

>>557731961
heh

>>557731231
>>557731501
>>557731961
so blurry

>>557731501
>>557731961
Ah. More shooting, I see.

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>>557745545
We could gamble instead

>>557746161
Why?

>>557746314
Why not?

Starfield could definitely use more minigame mods to help break the monotony of being a mostly mercenary experience
https://www.nexusmods.com/starfield/mods/14641
https://www.nexusmods.com/starfield/mods/12989
https://www.nexusmods.com/starfield/mods/11536

Mielu91m NAF update when???

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>>557748368
It's going to take him some more time, the original mod is a mess.

>>557749038
Mod worked before the game got its latest update.

>>557749435
The game has had several updates since this mod was last updated (November 2024), all sorts of shit could have gotten broken, especially considering this mod relies on reverse engineering methods to get working. And Mielu91m is trying to create a successor to both NAF and CCF rather than just update the original mods.

I just want the sex mods

>>557760373
There's 3 of them right now. Lets me go fetch my copypasta

>>557760852

1. Gergel Ebanex
-The furthest along with over 1000 animations
-Allows for blowjobs and furniture use
-Has lesbian sex, but no gay male sex (coming in the future)
-Will support threesomes in the future
-Does not have orgasm animations
-Allows for NPC on NPC scenes
-Designed around it, but does not force you to use Robert S body

2. SnuSnuField
-Second largest animation library, currently supporting 9 positions, no orgasm animations yet
-Initiated through stripping completely naked or setting up a hotkey
-The least buggy of the three
-Has threesome animations (Currently MMF)
-Has kissing and hugging animations, including a separate mod option if you don't need the sex
-Can perform necrophilia with it (lol)
-Does not support lesbian nor gay scenes

3. NAF Seduce
-Currently has 3 built in animations
-Initiated through dialogue after using a consumable
-Each position has multiple animation stages, including an orgasm one
-Has voices but only for the player right now
-Allows for same sex interactions
-Designed around it, but does not force you to use Robert S body

Do note that all 3 frameworks requires you to use Native Animation Framework, which as of the time posting this, is outdated and requires you to roll back Starfield to the November 19th 2024 (1.14.74) update to use any of them.

>>557761317
>but no gay male sex
based and straightfield

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>>557761317
I will look into all of this very shortly. Thank you for your assistance. Starfield is back

it has failed

>install https://www.nexusmods.com/starfield/mods/11025
>install SFF
Finally, a true ASStral Lounge

>>557746356
I wanted to play a space game

>>557783639
Then go and gamble in a space casino

>>557784272
tbf Star Wars Outlaws has a pretty fun card game. Haven't played it for a while, but it wasn't half bad. Thanks anon.

>>557784339
You're probably better off playing KOTOR for pazaak

>>557784339
>tbf Star Wars Outlaws has a pretty fun card game
the majority of my playtime in outlaws is playing sabacc

>>557783639
Space is a state of mind

up

You are now imagining

>>557808714
Imagining 2.0
I can feel it

there's a mighty drama brewing between the dude making SW Genesis mod and some tranny youtuber (Micky D)

>>557824498
Can't have a modding community without e-drama. I looked into it and it's just some self righteous whining over AI generated voices, more or less the same drama Skyrim faced a while ago over the use of AI voices in NSFW mods. I see that both are getting a ton of ego boosting flattery from their userbase too, so the drama is likely going to get out of hand.

I'm surprised there hasn't been any drama with Crimson Gayboy. Hes one of the most popular Starfield YouTubers and all he does it talk shit about modders while offering poor quality/low effort content and sucking Todds dick.

>>557828372
He mostly reviews Creation Club content, and paid ones at that. The lack of community there pretty much means that he's not going to get as much ego filled negative attention as he would have if he was more critical of mods released in the cesspit we call Nexus

>>557829045
Well someone needs to start a fight with him, his content is boring af

>>557829328
lol i'll do it

>>557828372
Maybe because Starfield players are actually chill and wholesome? get your problematic ahh outta here I bet you jerk off to that wasian dude moist something hey guise I'm not a funny person and today bad thing happened with one bad YouTuber you didn't see that coming didn't you oh my fucking christ shut the fuck up already

>>557824498
>Micky D trooned out

what in the fuck is going on

>>557828372
I don't see why anyone other than the especially scummy VCs like Daze would have a problem with him. Most of his criticism boils down to "this is a bit expensive for what it does", he only shit talks the ones that release garbage and even then not half as harshly as they deserve.

>>557845443
Hos critisism gets really personal, he doesn't often know what he's talking about and he's under the impression Bethesda care about their products, always acting like a hallmonitor for poor mods when its Bethesda who literally allow them onto their Creation Club. Occasionally he almost figures it out, wondering why Bethesda QA would allow it, but then goes back to just ragging on modders ability to speak english or test everything on XBox.

https://youtu.be/QQRzJj9xQHs?si=FaWC-Xce2RvaI7U4
Thoughts?

>>557847710
>always acting like a hallmonitor for poor mods
He's a reviewer, that's what he's supposed to do. Yeah, Bethesda is also at fault for rubber stamping trash and not having any built in feedback options, but what do expect some random youtuber to do about that? Spend every review repeating an impotent speech about how bad Bethesda is, while tiptoeing around the actual products he's reviewing for fear of hurting some glorified scammer's feelings?

>>557849259
Another ugly low T loser who gets mad at fictional characters because he can't get pussy? Show us something new.

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>>557849259
I don't even have to open it, I can tell from the title alone that it's the same old public broadcasting shit we've heard a thousand times that aims to get ad revenue support from viewers like you. I'm sure he thanks you for it though

>>557850092
>>557850691
Nice cope

>>557852306
Keep seething

Todd interview starting now. Shadowdropping TA in the Kinda Funny interview would be kinda funny haha

>>557852901
I didn't even know that was a thing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sX4rKpB97L4

>>557853145
Todd says they're going to be revealing something for Starfield soon. Also confirms the upcoming update is not going to be a Starfield 2.0

>>557853359
Just about sick of hearing this cute son of a bitch say "soon." Just give us actual information, Todd

>Todd prefers to just keep quiet on things until they're practically ready to go

>>557853359
The newest update for saarfield will drop immediately after the NAF update is completed.

Happy ramadan /stag/

>2.0 isn't actually a thing
it is well and truly over

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>>557853359
>Also confirms the upcoming update is not going to be a Starfield 2.0

>It is not Starfield 2.0 – I’ve seen some of that, and for expectation setting – I think it’s the kinda thing where – if you like Starfield, we think you’re going to love this. It’s updates and things that change the game, not in an isolated way, but you know ‘meta’ – using outer space and things in ways that we haven’t.

>But if Starfield is something that didn’t connect with you right away, or you bounced off it, or found it boring in places – I don’t think it’s going to change that fundamentally, but if you’re someone who loves Starfield and we think, we’re really happy with it.

>>557859313
Game must be doing well if he can brush off the haters like that. Sucks, but some of you people are going to have to accept the fact that you're not part of this game's audience and will likely never be. Time to play something else.

God damn it, we're really going full on Jedi now. And I probably can't even play it right now due to being on an older version of the game
https://www.nexusmods.com/starfield/mods/16053

>>557855617
2.0 was always delusional overhype based on pure speculation, not even trailers or dev statements like NMS. It'll be a noticeable QOL bump like the past updates plus whatever the fuck TA is, nothing more.

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>>557859313
>It’s updates and things that change the game, not in an isolated way, but you know ‘meta’ – using outer space and things in ways that we haven’t.
uh this kinda sounds like it could be a "2.0" update anyway so I'm very confused

>>557862020
Don't believe anything Todd says. He under-hypes leading up to game announcements, and over-hypes during them. The update will be huger than his losery, wimpy answer implied.

>>557862184
>He under-hypes leading up to game announcements, and over-hypes during them.
HE CAN'T KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH IT.

it's going to be a 3.0 update

Abandoned status?

what exactly is 2.0 supposed to be, in our headcanon?

>>557862607
Probably similar to Cyberpunk 2.0 in levels of engoodening

>>557859313
That is honestly the worst possible answer he could have given. This game is fucking doomed.

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>>557862607
The Triforce

>>557862020
There's no objective definition for what a Starfield 2.0 would even be, people just want it to "be better". For POI improvements, would it mean implementing a whole new procgen layout system or just unfucking the algorithm so you don't get 5 cryolabs in a row? For space, would it mean obfuscating the load screens and adding a handful of space POIs or using unholy code wizardry to add NMS style flight?

Hopes range from shit modders are already doing to absolutely insane dream game nonsense and we don't know which one Todd had in mind with that statement. He could be trying to put expectations in the dirt for a half assed B team update, or it might be chunky enough to still quality as 2.0 for many.

>>557863937
I need modders to make
1. Zombies POI (not just unarmed NPCs punching you, at least make it swipe).
2. Brothel POIs
These two alone will save Saarfield.

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>>557863937
>Er yeah the update is gonna be shit, don't get your hopes up lol.
>BTW did I talk about the Nogout TV show? I'm hollywood now, don't care about games anymore.

Someone needs to kill Todd. He's too juden.

i liked starfield even at launch, only 150 hours i know, but i hope 2.0 is big. will be reinstalling to try it out.

>>557859313
HAHAHAHAA and you actually thought it was gonna be some huge overhaul.
It's bethesda, you delusional faggots.

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>Starfield fans when they find out there is no 2.0 and it's just the Shattered Space again.

>>557866159
It's not the fans who are disappointed, it's the fence sitters

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>>557866289
Haha yeah, it's only the fence sitters who are unhappy. Yes siree.

>if you love starfield (ie you have low standards) you're going to love this
yeah pack it up

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>Todd just aborted his baby.

Chuds win again.

>>557867297
more like left it in a hot car with the windows up

Can we all agree its finally over? Its over. I'm pretty fucking sure its over.

>>557868762
The question is, who is it over for?

>>557868845
... this thread?

>>557869080
Nope. I'm still playing Starfield and will still post here.

>>557869080
Probably not. I'll still be here to make another one unless someone else once to take the mantle (such as the guy who was originally making them)

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>>557869080
It ain't over until Trackers Alliance Agent is bouncing on John Starfield's penis.

Its over.

>>557869329
*wants to

>>557868762
It has never been more owari than it is now desu.

Its over.

I sure as fuck aint waiting around for the next dissapoinment. Plenty of other games to play. Fuck you Starfield. We barely knew thee.

>starfield was extremely successful, we think the game is a masterpiece and our best game
But also
>we're going to try to not make elder scrolls 6 like starfield
Alright dude lol

So now we know it's gonna be a nothingburger, but how much of a nothingburger exactly?

>>557871832
Enough that it's only going to benefit existing players. If you already don't like the game, then there's nothing new that's going to change your mind.

/tesg/ is laughing at us
/fog/ is laughing at us

>>557859313
get rekt gothtroon
No 2.0 for you faggots.

>>557874112
I'm not a schizo, so I couldn't care less.

>>557862752
>This game is fucking doomed.
welcome to 2023

Boy this hater is having one hell of a melty, you must have really wanted a reason to play this game.

>>557874605
Not a hater, but I wanted a reason to reinstall.
This just finalized it.

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It's so over.
Dammit todd.

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What do you call this mental illness?

I'm glad Todd at least put expectations in check and basically killed the "Starfield 2.0" thing. I'm also glad this is sounding liking an update for the fans rather than something to appease the people who seem to live just to shit on Starfield.

>>557877204
anons for years, since "TORtanic" probably, have been addicted to video games failing

Haters get fucked. Todd is prioritizing existing Starfield lovers instead of altering the foundations of the game to appease whiners who can never be satisfied. Tough shit.

>>557879630
Makes me feel kinda bad for them though. Some of these people are genuinely suffering from the FOMO and wanted a reason to really enjoy this game.

Like what were people expecting? The interview mostly had todd say they overhauled a bunch of systems to make the overall approach to the gameplay better.

>>557877204
You seem upset miss.

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>>557879630
>Todd is prioritizing existing Starfield lovers
Whew, charge $60 for the expansion and he might clear $200k.

>>557881351
>steam numbers fag
lmao

>>557881437
No rebuttal.

>>557881859
go get the numbers off xbox

I'll wait

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>>557881351
>still pulling out the steam charts
Oh fun! Do the Cyberpunk or NMS line, next. Or the NPC face screenshot from two years ago. Dance for my amusement!

>>557881351
>anons still don't know what concurrent players means
lol

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>steam charts

>>557862184
Todd has been underhyping everything he says ever since the "Tell me lies Todd Howard" meme became popular, he obviously knows about it. if you look at everything he said in the past 5-10 years it's all very toned down.

>>557878813
It's good to nip such things in the bud, not that it'll stop people from expecting more than what they'll get. Doesn't exactly get Starfield out of it's dire state though.

>>557865302
well the good news is you don't have to wait anymore, we just learned that there is no 2.0, the next update is much smaller and less ambitious than people have assumed (demanded?)

What were people demanding? Something like a POI rework is something that is already doable with Creations (not even SFSE enabled mods) and things like the space travel rework is also a shoo-in based on leaks.

What Everything else can be modded.

>>557859313
Based Todd. Fuck the haters. Can't wait to see what improvements they've made to the engine with this update and further down the line with Creation Engine 3.

>>557862521
that's bg3 and cyberpunk
>>557871570
why would elder scrolls be like a space faring game, you retard.

Why do people want a new engine? All the fun bells and whistles that make cyberpunk look so good also make it impossible to mod to the degree of a CE game.

>>557886858
they collected feedback from people who played the game like 2 years ago and POI rework is easily at the top of the list along with more immersion with ship travel.

>>557887390
People largely don't know what they're talking about and thinks that Bethesda switching to a new engine would be a akin to the second coming of Christ.

The entire discussion around bethesda is extremely offputting. Genuine psychosis by the "fans" that they should be releasing a game every season of the Fallout TV show for maximum brand synergy. Obsessive video essay galore about how Bethesda doesn't get fallout or their head writing guy talking about keeping a story simple means that he should be fired, even retroactively making him the boogeyman for games he wasn't the head writer of.

Guy retires after a long fruitful career? This is proof that bethesda is finished when they have unionized steel mill levels of talent retention.

They practically feed hundreds of sloptubers with their existence.

>>557887650
They've been using the same engine for 24 years. Its limitations are widely known and obvious to everyone, from gamer to modder to developer.

It doesn't solve everything. However, chances are a problem you've had with a Bethesda game has been because of their engine: the loading times, the low actor and object limits, the bizarre animation bugs, floaty props, pathfinding errors, and on and on.

People have been begging them to swap since Oblivion made it obvious that these problems were only going to get worse. There's not been a more vindicated group of gamers, they were exactly right in every way.

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I think everything is going to be alright.

Damn nigga, I never knew that morrowind was a 64 bit engine that had Physically based rendering and the multithreading capability that wasn't present in hardware of the time.

The most vindicated gamers are the retards who have been eternally seething that bethesda makes the wrong kind of games that get popular and starfield finally caught up with them with a poor reception.

>>557887184
There are (unfounded) fears that VI will just be Starfield with boats.

>>557889104
that sounds based

>>557889005
You forgot to quote my post, are you new to 4chan? Just click the post number.

You don't know what a game engine is, or how game development works either. Those aren't crimes, but you shouldn't feel so confident in your answers - and derisive of others - if you're going to be so ignorant.

>>557889153
Personally I do hope for ships, no reason they can't be in a handcrafted world but Bethesda does have a bad habit of throwing babies out with the bathwater.

>>557889247
listen here bud, bethesda's game engine has been updated in line with what the rest of the industry uses. CE2 looks worse than most top of the line games and a lot better than something like avowed.

The netimmerse fork morrowind started with didn't have physics like oblivion/FO3 did. Nor did it have the NPC scheduling system that got marketed as radiant AI.

The point is that the game engine has been updated over the years just fine. It allows Bethesda to ship a game editor that lets you add content very easily to the game, a plugin system that allows you to load things readily into the game and other stuff which is generally relegated to more niche genres rather than AAA RPG games.

Throwing that away so you get better mocapped animations and badly implemented nanite would be a bad thing.

the dreaded loading screens in starfield were in... every previous bethesda game lmao why are people going nuts now.

>>557890336
Same reason why fallout 4 isn't an RPG but the Witcher 3 and cypberpunk are.

>>557890890
>cypberpunk
pfft

So now that we know that the update isn't going to be overhauling Starfield at a foundational, fundamental level, I wonder how many people are still going to act like Starfield is "fixed" when it comes to the PS5. People were already claiming the Star Wars Genesis mod basically "fixed" Starfield and it's literally just a modpack that even keeps some of the quest lines the exact same as they were in base Starfield.

Games dead, simple as.
TESVI is dead as well. So is fallout 5.

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0.9% of players finished sharty space.
How many will complete next dlc (if it releases)?

The simplest answer as to why Bethesda cant swap engines is that most of the people at Bethesda have been there for decades, they're near retirement age now and swapping engines would mean retraining themselves on UE5 for an engine that's going to do a lot of things the creation engine cannot do. Also you cannot outsource Bethesda games easily to outside studios because they have to learn how to work on the creation engine itself, which is a positive or negative depending on how you look at things.

>>557892589
>most of the people at Bethesda have been there for decades
Incorrect. Most are dei or indian. Only the higher ups are old.

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>>557891005
The foundation isn't so much the problem with this game for people, but rather the problem is that people are having issues finding some actual sense of purpose to continue playing it at all. Star Wars Genesis gives people purpose as Star Wars is a familiar enough IP that people can at least have some fun roleplaying in it.

>>557892589
creation engine is better. no compilation stutter or traversal stutter. seethe.

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>>557892589
>you cannot outsource Bethesda games easily to outside studios
Read the starfield credits (you know, the 35 minute list after you enter unity. You did make it into the unity didnt you?).
There's like 40 different studios involved.

>>557892589
what the fuck would you even want from an overhaul, you dumb motherfucker. cyberpunk 2.0 didn't change the flow of the game either.

>>557892832
>creation engine is better.
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>crash.exe

>>557890336
Density, and its not just the loading screens. There's more menu fiddling, transitional animations, and loading packed into a single travel sequence than the other games (for the most part, looking at you Vivec), and the gameplay loop encourages frequent travel so people ram into those interruptions constantly.

Same problem as the elevators in Mass Effect. That also had loading screens for space travel, but people only complained about the elevators because there were fuckloads of them packed into the bigger areas.

>>557893068
all that shit was in the previous games, retard.

>>557892727
>>557892910
Jeets are literally too retarded to work on bethesda games and they're all trained on unreal engine 5 and not creation engine. The only thing starfield did was outsource creating 3D assets which other games like Baldur's gate 3 and Elden Ring did so that's not a crime.

>>557893418
The guy who came up with house direnni for daggerfall was a jeet you retard. End of the day bethesda has gabagool no-show jobs levels of employee retention. Its more akin to a based nipponese company in terms of keeping people on board.

>>557893064
epic industry standard UE5 crashed more for me on both avowed and Oblivion remastered than Starfield until I was done with it.

>>557893826
>epic industry standard UE5 crashed more for me on both avowed and Oblivion remastered than Starfield until I was done with it.
So why are we still using either? Its 2026, it's been 30 years for both of those.

>>557893205
Yes, but there's *more* of it in Starfield.

>>557893205
yeah but in fallout or tes you can walk in a direction on the main world and generally avoid loading screens. It was no big deal because an SSD means the loading screens were like 1 second long. That star wars game requires like 20s landing sequences which lets you travel from one end of the map in Starfield to the next.

Hopefully the travel overhaul will cut down on that but even then people don't like low level sci fi instead of space opera shit like Mass Effect or Star Wars.
Dickriding the genesis modpack when its made by a thuggysmurf tier tard is the stupidest shit ever. Just proves that bethesda makes games unlike anybody else.
>>557894140
not particularly. Fallout 4 in places has that same amount of loading screens. Its just more egregious in SF.

>>557894520
>people don't like low level sci fi instead of space opera shit like Mass Effect or Star Wars
Starfield is already a space opera which is why its ridiculously easy to reskin into a Star Wars game, the only hard sci-fi aspects are the nasapunk aesthetic and lack of sapient aliens. I don't believe going all the way by gluing tron lights to the tech or turning Sarah purple would have helped much. People don't dislike Starfield's setting just because its grounded, but because its painfully dull in ways that would drag down a more fantastical setting just as much if not more.

Just gives space amulet of mara so i can marry non constellation, todd.

>>557877204
being brown

TODD HOWAAAAAAARD

I'd love for some minigames to dick around in. Mybe darts, maybe one of the board games is playable, maybe a simple card game.
Also this >>557910000

I am waiting to get back into Starfield until more DLC comes out though. Any great mods? No Star Wars stuff.

>>557862607
Ideally a patch where you just go to a new universe after you beat main storyline first time on a character and meet your original universe companions to see them grow into better written characters. Expand on the Starborn and write more lore with a new storyline. Also make more POIs have different randomization with factions and enemies and layouts.Let us have custom marks on systems to track down the Trader again.

>>557897724
>People don't dislike Starfield's setting just because its grounded

People literally said they hated the game for not having aliens and what does dull mean? Grounded, you stupid nigger

>>557910110
Like 2/3rds of Bethesda, or New Atlantis?

>>557915690
See >>557747892

>>557925912
The setting is fucking boring. There are plenty of human centric sci-fi stories. But they have cool politics or drama or explorations of themes.
What the fuck does Starfield have?
>The wonder of exploration in an optimistic future
>The Explorations faction doesn't do anything and the world is full of raiders and pirates and abandoned science outposts

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please redeem the 2.0

>>557930768
Starfield is a rather simple space sandbox experience with some roleplaying opportunities. It's not some grand space opera like Mass Effect, nor does it come close to the Minecraft tier sandbox experience that games like No Man's Sky offers, it's just a hybrid jack of all trades, master of none space adventure for people who want the freedom of choosing and making their own adventures, but still has some form of narrative that they're not totally railroaded into and are free to engage and disengage from at any time. In a sense, it's Elder Scrolls/Fallout in space.

>>557915690
>Any great mods?
nope

>>557930768
>>The wonder of exploration in an optimistic future
It's more post apocalyptic than fallout.
>>The Explorations faction doesn't do anything and the world is full of raiders and pirates and abandoned science outposts
Don't forget the space hobos living in shipping containers. One or two of which are missing and need you to extract them all from the planet.

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>>557932579
>it's Elder Scrolls/Fallout in space.

It's not a space opera like mass effect or star wars.

It's not whatever no man's sky or even online is either.

It's NASApunk

>>557925912
I guarantee those people aren't articulating what they actually want and wouldn't be satisfied if it did have aliens, but otherwise remained the same. They want more appealing companion/romance options like ME's as opposed to nursing home nags, they want more entertaining cultural dynamics instead of everything being a dystopian spinoff of Murrica, they want more compelling moral dilemmas like the Krogan genophage and not "REEEEE WHY DON'T YOU TRUST THE SCIENCE", or they want more dynamic gameplay that comes with something like the Covenant instead of 90% of enemies being functionally identical.

People associate those things with aliens because of popular franchises but they aren't strictly linked, a human-only setting could still bring those things to the table and an ayy filled one could still lack all of it. And grounded just means sensible, not necessarily dull. That's a failing of the writers.

>>557935426
>NASApunk
Is that supposed to mean something? Its a term they made up, and then did nothing with. It doesn't describe anything.
The visual genre of the game is sometimes cassettepunk, sometimes space cowboys, whatever. But NASAPunk means literally fuck all.

>>557937424
>They don't know what they want
>I can't understand what they want and so it can't be a valid opinion

>>557937778
I didn't say they don't know, just that they aren't bothering to fully articulate it in low effort complaint posts. They're using aliens as shorthand for all the shit that usually comes along with them that Starfield: Crayola Edition would still fail to deliver.

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>>557937670
NASApunk just means old ass real world tech and machines being repurposed for living in space, a similar concept to Steampunk. Starfield is basically a game that's designed to incorporate mid 20th century space age tech rather than the advanced alien tech with holographic projectors people are used to seeing now. Also has elements meant to be nostalgic for anyone who knows what a VHS tape is.

>>557941231
Everything you described is cassettepunk you fucking moron

>>557945043
NASApunk is basically a subgenre of that, yes

>>557945265
NASAPunk was made up by Bethesda and does nothing in its own right to justify its existence. These aesthetics are created by communities, not companies.

looks like Todd's plan is to drop one final update to please those 100 people still playing and move on

>>557948284
>100 people
10 people, maybe

Upcoming Grindterra mod that's going to add waterfalls to the procgen
https://www.reddit.com/r/starfieldmods/comments/1r8zycf/recent_news_got_you_down_well_here_is_a_sneak/

>>557949469
Its gonna make no sense wherever it spawns. The procgen isn't going to account for rivers and shit that lead to these waterfalls. Theyre just going to be random structures of rock jutting up out of the ground with water coming out of them.