New thread Yana where is novel 3
Yana
Yana pls

Talk in last thread about events being referenced in the main story and dear god what I wouldn't give for Rollo to be canon.

>>557796782
Same. He's the only one from the Halloween boys I feel goes well with the main story and on par with the main cast. Glorimas itself felt like main story material.Twst can make bank if they write the guy back in please Yana please

>>557796782
>>557797494
Pen pals with Malleus. By which I mean, Malleus is sending him snail mail every week. Which Rollo burns in his little fireplace without ever reading. While suffering the eternal torment of knowing that Malleus is never going to know his letters aren't being read unless he tells him, but acknowledging the receipt of said letters would compromise his vow to ignore said lizard. An ironic tragedy repeating with the delivery of the mail every Thursday. The mail being always just the one letter because who else would be sending snail mail in a world with smartphones except Malleus Draconia.

>>557801736
And it’s delivered by the student council assistant to the council room so everyone knows. They all think Rollo and Malmal are BFFs and Rollo can’t tell them he’s not reading them and is just destroying them without looking like an ass so he doesn’t say anything. And now all of NBC praises him for putting differences aside and improving interscholastic relations. And brag to friends they made at the social who go to other schools that their president is bosom buddies with Malleus Draconia. And the guys at NRC hear about it because social media. And it gets back to Malleus because Cater. “Word on the street is that you’re pen pals with Rollo Flamme.” And Malleus is so smug and proud.
And Rollo hates his life.

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>>557812061
It makes me feel better than JP is also baffled by the lack of new novel. If they were silent on it I'd think that maybe they knew something we didn't, or the novels just weren't that popular or something, but every once and I while I see JPsisters encouraging each other to read them and joking about the next one and it's like "I fucken knew it, the novels are peak."

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Tako is coming. Lion is coming. pspsps. I don't know sound you'd make to coax an octopus towards you. Bubble sounds I guess.

>>557822353
Saying glub glub will help.

>>557822353
MY WIFE IS SO GORGEOUS

>>557822353
Duo with Silver? Cool!

And Try using moray eels to capture him.

>>557822353
He has extra MILF vibes in this card. Looks more Bayonetta and Jeanne's son than ever

>>557824794
>Looks more Bayonetta and Jeanne's son than ever
Cannot unsee it now

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>>557827779
The siblings are going to hang out!

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The shadows, one of the shadows is a hyena? A reference to Ruggie!? LeoRug canon!

>>557856449
I see 3 hyenas tho

>>557867439
Rug, Gie and Bucchi

>Post about fandom flanderization is forbidden and immediatly removed
>But the sub getting flooded by shitty OOC fan content and topics everyday is a-ok!
Twst reddit is a joke

>>557871604
>Reddit

>>557871604
*OC

>>557871604
If we could delete posts in here too bitching about bitches instead of the game, I bet a lot of us would do it.

>>557871703
>Implying it's the first time that place was brought up here

>>557871604
> flooded by shitty OOC fan content
I hate the OCslop too but I have no idea how to ask the mods to limit it. What would a rule like that even look like? "Only two OC posts allowed per day, first come first served"?
That said, I'd rather see ugly drawings of Miss Mary Suington III than have to see meangirls shit. OCs can at least pretend to be tangentially Twst related, "this fandom sucks" posts are just circlejerks of butthurt people who lost arguments on Twitter.

>>557875429
I've seen Reddit threads where some posts are only allowed on specific days of the week, like weekends or Tuesdays and Thursdays, something like that.

>>557876729
That'd be cool. Elementary Schooler Thursday: keep your self-indulgent crowing to one day a week.
But they'd have to phrase it as "this way everyone gets to see all of your wonderful OCs at the same time, same place, for easy access!!" cause saying "we are all tired of this cringey shit, children are to stay inside this playpen" would not go over well.

You could always go back and create your own twst sub-reddit with rules about no ocs (explained more tactfully of course). Be the change you want to see, as they say.

>>557814563
> the novels are peak.
Not the english ones. I tried to send a Karen-style email to VIZ via their customer support form asking what went wrong with the book 2 novel's translation but their system is broken and kept sending back errors. That's certainly one way to handle customer complaints, I guess.

>>557884720
Last thread or so ago, there was an industryanon who said that those people don't have anyone to hold them accountable. A problem has to be big enough to get the JPHQ's attention, because localization has no oversight. Localizers are just doing what they want because their clients don't understand English, so they'll never know.
But sending a complaint via the Twst JP contact form seems tone deaf. They're both technically Square Enix but I doubt those two departments ever interact.

26 hours until lion comes home whether he wants to or not.

I wonder if there is some overworked animator out there drawing Leona's overblot as we speak to try and meet some deadline that none of us know about for the second season of the anime. Who are you, unnamed korean animator. Are you using AI. Will Book 2 continue to be cursed and awful. Tell us the secret recipe.

>>557871604
How many more times are we going to have to suffer your insane addiction to Reddit? Be a mentally ill retard who can't stop arguing with underaged kids on the internet as much as you want but stop wafting your shit over to the rest of us who actually have self control.
>>557872797
Seriously. It's extra funny when they LARP at being JP readers. As if somebody who actually knew JP and hated the EN fanbase that much couldn't just spend time on JP social media instead.

>>557906776
> just spend time on JP social media instead.
I think twt did something to their algorithm cause I blocked just a dozen english language posts and now I'm not seeing any anymore, zero, it is amazing.

>>557908303
I have a VPN with my country always set to JP and this has worked for me for years.
>>557875429
A weekly megathread for OCs would probably tie up the issue neatly? I haven't used Reddit since COVID, but that used to be the go-to for any single type of posting that flooded a subreddit.
> "this fandom sucks" posts are just circlejerks of butthurt people who lost arguments on Twitter
And then those people apparently come here to post about it when they lose arguments on Reddit... It never ends, does it. I wouldn't go as far as >>557906776 , but I do wish these people would do something to help themselves.

>>557909703
I found the thread >>557871604 is pining for and it’s one of the most passive aggressive things I’ve ever seen, people complaining about being blocked, complaining about complaining, complaining that no one understands (character) like they do. I’m betting shitter is their home base and they’re trying to drag other platforms down to their level.
On a more interesting note, did anyone notice Yana saying she’s in charge of the OB cards? She was talking about how fairy bro-bot and lion man coming out together is an amusing coincidence because she was in charge of both those SSRs. I hope there is making-of art at that exhibition that’s coming next month.

>>557910631
> exhibition
Ooo I do hope there will be some decent merch. I remember at the last pop-up store, JPsisters were right pissed off that they kept running out of stock in the mornings, leaving nothing for the later groups.

>>557910631
Sad... I can tell from typing style, too, that they're the same anons getting really catty with other anons at random. They're always the issue wherever they go.
Also, neat. That explains why they're so peak. After all these years, FG Ortho is still my top pick for the most gorgeous groovy in the game.
If we do get more making-of art, hope somebody sneaks some pics.

>>557913129
Clawing for more concept art. I want to wallpaper my room in Yana's early design drafts.

>>557913129
>>557910631
Looking at the website it's gonna be mainly Beanfest, Fairy Gala 1, Wish Upon a Star, Vargas Camp and the first and second Halloweens, so only the stuff from when Yana was doing everything.
I bet the Halloween section is going to be insane. Bring me the boys in corsets. Bring them.

Once again all praise to the 30AP limit. Gonna have all my boys max-friends at this rate.

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I like how he wears different pair of glasses with each new outfit.

>>557928685
I love my megane men.

>>557788048
Announcement next month along with the announcement of the Pomefiore manga.

>>557956258
I dig this artstyle

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>>557928685
I saw that one in the wild and sis was like “how many glasses does he own wtf” and I didn’t want to go in there and “actshually” a JPsis in English or broken Japanese so I shut up and eventually another JPsis told her that Azul only owns one pair of glasses as confirmed during Halloween, the others aren’t his and just come with the outfits. Always well served by keeping my mouth shut.

Does anyone here have OCs though? I trust /twst/ has better taste when it comes to OCs

>>557975735
Thinking some people have "better taste" in imaginary friends than others? That is some mental-asylum-level shit.

>>557977435
That's the whole point in being a yume

>>557978707
>being a yume
>mental-asylum-level shit
Whatever makes them happy, I guess. But if someone honestly comes in here like "Actually, yes! The voices in my head are objectively superior to those of anyone else," they probably have more issues than just schizophrenic elitism.

I will never get over how they foreshadowed Idia's mom hacking into his computer as early as the union jacket birthday series. I want to quit my job and comb through all of Twst content released in the first two/three years and see what else was hinted at, full time.

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>>557975735
You mean this type of OC or OC for yume? Because they suck.

>>557982189
It was so interesting to me that they didn't try to hide or downplay or dismiss the parents. They could have, easily. It's a fantasy world, they can do whatever they want. There would have been a few people saying "But where are the parents!?" just to stir drama, but if the parents were relevant to the story then they'd be there. If they weren't it would be because they were irrelevant, that's all. And they actually incorporated them. This is a pretty boy gacha, I would never have guessed that someone's mom and dad would have such a major role in the main story. Truly fascinating decision.

It’s so funny that there are so many azulfags on this board what a weird coincidence.

>>557994637
I already forgot the popularity poll results. I do remember that Vil was higher than I'd expected, and no one liked Deuce or Jack.

Octanerds and lionjocks rejoice, new cards in 1.5 hours.

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>>558000140
Vil has consistently been the most popular one here according to all the polls. I wonder how much his popularity has risen in JP compared to a couple years ago? I remember hearing it was hard finding new fanart sometimes back then.

>>558005580
>Extended maintenance by an hour
Damnit

>>558005580
Extended maintenance. A bunch of grumpy cat sisters in the responses of the tweet like “thank you for the hard work, no worries, please take your time……give me the lion.”

Kitty came on on pull 42 I am blessed. I have wanted prince Leona on my homescreen for one million years. Dethroning sleepytime Leona.

>>558007415
Yeah I remember hearing that he's not so popular in JP, which is why his popularity here is so interesting. I know EN's more obnoxious people praise him for the trans rep that he isn't, but it's nice to see he's got fans amongst us degenerates here as well. He's not my favorite but he is an objectively great character and I love that for him.

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This must feel like Christmas for that one leorid sis

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Why is this octopus so damn erotic

>>558017445
Making things unsettling in a sexual way is Yana’s whole brand and she channeled aaall of it into the fish mafia

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It would kind of be worth it to roll for sheeportho just to be able to do this

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>>558024258
If I had more uncaps, I could have them wandering my guest room.

Got my boy and pumped him full of every possible item so now everything but guest room leveling is maxed out and I won't be able to watch him in lessons. Damn.

>>558017445
In the vignette, Silver was so kind and innocent! And Azul seemed so pleased with Silver, with him manipulating him and using him, and loving all the sincere compliments from Silver that are in his "promotional" video, right? Good thing was Silver, the best boy, I don't think Azul would have been so happy if it had been another character.

>>558072184
There is something so uncanny valley about this comment but I can't put my figure on exactly what. It reads like it was written by a Stepford wife.

>>558085908
I will never get over the fact that they gave him a freaking straight jacket. I love this game.

TL is flooded in twst and olympics and I just realized there is no like, crossover. No one drawing Azul in a figure skating leotard. No one drawing rook at a shooting range. No one drawing Floyd snowboarding. Not complaining of course, the complete divide between gacha-otaku and sports fans is just kind of cute.

>>558103558
That one american figure skater name dropped her fav anime in an interview. If she'd added "oh also I play this game twisted wonderland," dear god, imagine the influx.

>>558082137
Leona's final line in his abyss thing, he says something about having a pride all of his own one day, and I am really interested by what that means. It could be anything from a dramatic renouncing of his princehood and starting his life over again somewhere else, or something as tiny as adopting Ruggie as his found family. Does he actually WANT a family redo? Or maybe it wasn't about family at all, it was just about surrounding himself with friends and living his best life. I need a "ten years later" LeoRug update basically. It is a need.

Mangadex is purging again, I wonder if they're trying to pull a crunchyroll and go legit.

Only 253 days until Halloween. What One Piece seiyuu are they going to be poaching for a beautiful but emotionally constipated man this time.

>>558114436
I think they are.

>>558114436
>>558122239
They posted an announcement that they're getting rid of "problematic" content, I swear to god I saw a screenshot of a deleted tweet where they told people to "goon to lolis somewhere else."

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Yanafied Madame Mim when?

>>558123613
Yeah and someone brought up the Konosuba Megumi spin-off being tagged as loli, showing hypocrisy that they won't get rid of the popular titles that have similar content. At this point, we can't trust even fansites anymore in this day of age. We just gotta buy manga/doujinshi and keep shit to ourselves. Use AI to translate everything for us.

>>558124083
I've been telling everyone who will listen that they gotta buy original-language stuff. Starting with that absolutely cursed Book 2 novel.

For the love of god I have once again forgotten to invite Azul to the goddam guest room I am a terrible host

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Feels good to have your birthday a couple of days before your oshi's

>>557975735
No, I've been in many fandoms yet never ever gave a fuck about OCs unless, in TWST's case, they're twisted versions of a canon disney character like this one >>558053883 or if you count it, personal interpretations of characters that have been mentioned and teased in the canon material but don't have an official design yet like the main cast's family members or some RSA students.

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So heartwarming

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>a ‘nation-founding face’ and a ‘nation-toppling face.’”

>>558153678
Been enjoying the increase in Crowley fanart recently. Suspicious bird man.

So excited for the anni coming up but they could seriously just post a png of a cupcake on the loading screen and do nothing else and I'd still be thrilled, happy birthday Twst.

>>558171893
I keep thinking about the chances of Anni releasing a new animated video showcasing the various RSA characters! And maybe more announcements about the second season of the anime, new mangas, and the OB Riddle Card.

>>558171893
I hope they will re-run all of the OBs, I need to have them all.

>>558177348
Please tell me why you are interested in rsa characters I would like to learn

>>558177506
Seems unlikely, unfortunately. Since Riddle will probably not be appearing within the next 20 days, so soon after Leona.
Or maybe they do a 6-of-7 rerun with everyone except Riddle?

>>558171893
Blazing Jewel card releases...!? But dumping 22 of them on us at once would be insane. They could spread that content out over years.

>>558178578
I still can't believe those weren't this year's birthday series. So many people complaining in advance about how much they were going to hate them and then they just never showed up.

>>558184782
Blazing jewel is the new set to replace the club cards, trust

>>558187246
Or maybe Master Chef? I'd take either one. I love love love those designs.
>>558184782
>So many people complaining
Ah, memories. When people don't have enough problems in their lives they will literally make things up to make themselves unhappy.

>>558187954
Ashamed to admit I was afraid too, platinum jacket was a precedent and it just seemed like what any other gacha would do. Very pleased that twst seems to know what not to do though, which still surprises me. I think I just have the lowest expectations ever after years of playing other gachas

>>558189134
Twst is my first/only gacha, so that probably explains my confusion at all the gloom and doom. Even if the birthday series was Blazing Jewel, there was no way it would've been worse than Platinum Jacket, that entire year of Disney jacking itself off using Yana's hands.

>>558189827
I hadn't really thought about it but the birthday series all have almost zero mouse influence, I think? There are some movie callbacks in the first series but those are all tied into the characters' backstories/families. Union was about little brothers and deserted islands, Bloom was about school classes and hobbies, Loungewear was about makeup, Bonbon is about Sage's Island. I think it was really only Platinum that got all up in everybody's faces about THIS IS A DISNEY PROPERTY. And was objectively the worst one.

>>558171893
What are the odds they will add special banners like last year (dorm specific showcases with past limited SSRs and SRs would be nice) instead of re-running dorm uniform SSRs for the xth time?

>>558150789
I dare to say they have enough material to make their own series

>>558201365
I'd watch it. The shenanigans that would abound.

>>558197307
What are the odds they'll give me puppy ortho for being a loyal consumer zombie.
But yeah something to replace or at least something to add onto the usual dorm showcases would be pretty neat. I wonder why they rerun those all the time.

Just saw someone casually reference SIlver's brother and keep wondering who it could possibly be. Malleus? Sebek? Deuce? A small creature that Lilia found outside?

>>558215983
And I just found somebody wanting this info I got but when I went to their profile to message them I saw "proship dni," so, nevermind.
Also the thought of lilia finding like, a wombat and being like "Silver this is your new sibling" is somehow hilarious. Mostly cause you know Silver would have one shot of looking mildly alarmed and then be like "can those hands hold a sword, or?"

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>To those who are avoiding Twisted Wonderland because they think it's an otome game. First off, Twisted Wonderland feels a lot like a high-quality TRPG. If you like TRPGs, or games like Hoshiumusubi, I really, really recommend giving it a try. The main story is just that good.
It's interesting that the JP side is having this issue too. They needed to call it "Disney's Twisted Wonderland: Not an Otome."

>>558220307
>Don't worry it's not an otome
>It's actually good
kek

>>558223408
TWST is definitely one of the more successful joseimukes in current modern times. Every other one is trying to ride off that similar success. Look at the recent cleaning product one that has been announced. RIP Rider Kamens too.

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I always found crazy that people call Diasomnia a family on twitter when it's just
>Monarch
>Slave Cuck
>Slave #2, son of the original slave
>Grandson of another slave training to become another slave
Do you think they even get paid for this?

>>558187246
true if big

>>558187954
I'm getting nostalgic for when character songs were more popular. Imagine if with each Blazing Jewel card release they would release a mini CD that had a solo character song for those who just liked the boy, and a duet that included the duo buddy. This would bethe "look, we did an idol set finally," for the game.

>>558245965
If they do this they might need to be careful about not overdoing it or making it the main content for the year, because like how people don't like otome there are those who hate idol shit too. There were already complaints popping up about how people who don't like the idol genre felt left out of 5th anniversary, only mitigated by there being at least an in-game rhythmic event

>>558210358
>I wonder why they rerun those all the time.
See, I understand why they were doing it during the game's earlier years but there are enough limited SR+ cards by now, they should make it a bit easier to obtain them instead of just holding an annual event. Getting dorm uniform SSRs isn't that exciting anymore (especially if you're an old player), you can basically get Hearts/Savanaclaw for free when creating a new account for fuck's sake, there's no point in doing special anniversary banners only for these anymore.

>>558247783
>those who hate idol shit
That's me, and I'm still struggling with Blazing Jewel, but in a good way somehow? I really don't like idol shit. I don't understand the appeal and it all looks the same. Real-life or video game stuff, it's just not interesting and I can't force myself to care. But BJ was different and I can't figure out why. And it's not like I 100% loved all the BJ songs/performances or anything, but the fact I loved any at ALL is weird to me. I enjoyed the little in-game event about rehearsals. I liked the music videos, despite being a combination of idolshit and didneyslop, two things I really dislike. And I loved the virtual show. And I can't figure out why. Twst is always working some weird magic to keep me invested in his disney cashgrab as it is, and they took a gamble with extending that to yet another genre I do not care for, and made me care for it hard. Really weird.
So my knee-jerk reaction is to condemn Twst going in the idol direction, but I would've vetoed BJ entirely, and they proved me wrong with that. Maybe they'll do it again. Weird.

>>558272752
I've looked into the woman who is in charge of Twst's music and it seems she wasn't exactly a huge deal before Twst, wasn't exactly getting a ton of work, if you catch my drift. But she is doing banger after banger with Twst and I don't know if she finally found her calling or if it's once again Yana being a goddamn goddess or what. We know that Yana is giving input and having changes made to the music, you add a sprinkle of Yana to anything and it turns into gold, apparently. Except Skate-Leading Stars perhaps, but she wasn't calling the shots, no responsibility there.

Sometimes I think about that interview Sugiyama Noriaki gave when the anime came out about how he used to voice creatures in foreign cartoons but he usually voices attractive men in anime, so voicing Grim has been nostalgic.
Grim getting a human form would be inSANE.

>>558289705
Some think it would be endgame after saving Grim. Cause you know, monster beast, gets saved by power of friendship/love, becomes human. Being human now means he can continue NRC without Player.

>>558289950
>can continue NRC without Player.
Is him being human going to make him any easier to control? Or is the only thing keeping him from being sorted into a dorm and becoming a housewarden's problem the fact that he's a catdemon thing? Gonna end up in Pomefiore and Vil is going to be like "god fucking damn it."

>>558289705
ikemen catboy trust

>>558279103
Yana's passion and love for her work is infectious. Crazy stroke of luck and genius that twst landed in her hands, wasn't it said before that twst was originally going to be something more akin to an idol raising game and Yana's ideas were so good they just handed it to her to handle instead? Best decision ever. Original idea would've died as fast as Star Smash, how's Mirrorverse doing now I wonder

>>558305786
I dunno about the idol thing, what I've seen is that she thought she was just being asked to apply to be put in charge of character design and ended up being given the whole project instead, but she's Japanese and a Disneyfag, so there is no way she's gonna say "Disney asked me to submit my portfolio to potentially become the character designer and then changed their mind after hearing my ideas," even though that's probably what happened, so in her interview it's phrased like "I thought I was going to be the character designer only, I will not say anything about how it is that I came to that conclusion, silly me."

>>558082137
Fics of overblot Leona ravishing dream Ruggie fucking when?

>>558311349
oh my god new fetish unlocked

>>558314531
He's also realizing that the benevolent prince he idolizes so much is actually a violent self-pitying villain.

So it's like a double rape.

>>558316861
Would dream-Riddle idolize him like real-Riddle does, though? I can imagine dream-Riddle and overblot-Leona hate-fucking and it is delish. "shut the fuck up" - "no you shut the fuck up" and shagging.

Someone remind me in 12 hours to do special lessons with azul because I keep forgetting

>>558289705
I was watching a clip with grim in it the other day and my speakers bugged out or something so everyone was sounding a little off, and I swear I could hear the ikemen in him. That little bastard has the voice of Naruto's Sasuke, Bleach's Ishida and Black Butler's Will. It would be so funny if they hired Sugiyama with his background of "creatures and sassy men" to be the voice of a character that starts out a creature and then turns into a sassy man. It's Twst, I'd believe it.

All the anni talk has me wondering if we will legit get a blaze jewel banner this year. I haven’t spent money on this app in years but it might finally be time, they all look so damn good in that series.

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Happy birthday Tako-chan!

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I love my stinky octo.

I'm waiting for the Blu-ray release of Blazing Jewel, because the video will have much better quality, camera work, and angles than the Disney Plus version, right?

>>558365610
There was an ad a little while back that had waaay better quality than the streaming version yeah, and they said there will be options for different camera angles, iirc.

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jpsisters are on another level...

>>558379917
And excellent taste. I wonder how she navigates that room when she wants to add a poster or something.

>>558365610
Holy shit I forgot about that for a second doesn’t that come out on the 18th? Yessssss just going to have it playing on loop for the first month, I am dying from blazing Jewel deficiency.
Also if subtitle-anon want to do the other intermissions that’d be super neat but no pressure.

>>558394571
That's the plan! I've always wanted to do TwstFes too, but it's just so long my motivation crashes. With 1/3rd of Blazing Jewel already subtitled, I'm hoping I'll be able to do the rest of the show once it comes out without my brain melting.

>>558317848
>"shut the fuck up" - "no you shut the fuck up" and shagging.
And Real!Ruggie off to the side recording it for a paid livestream, tech stuff overseen by Dream!Ruggie. The argument over who gets what percentage of profits will be legendary.

>>558408134
One of the points I liked about the dreams is how Ruggie and Deuce suddenly became good students but it wasn't because they actually got any smarter. It was a prison of their own minds, so they couldn't make themselves know more than they did, like an author trying to write a character who is smarter than themselves. Ruggie says straight out that the didn't suddenly become a model student, it's just that all the test questions were things he already knew. They didn't change, their environments just adapted to suit their limitations.
In retrospect it makes sense but I still find it so interesting. They didn't wake up and go back to being dumb, they themselves didn't change at all, all Malleus does is make little terrariums of the mind without touching the person themselves. What a neat concept.

>>558411604
>an author trying to write a character who is smarter than themselves
My dumb ass trying to write Leona fic.

>>558417190
Reminds me of the time the members of JPsis discord I’m in all decided to play Among Us in character as Twst guys. Absolutely zero of us chose our oshi, everyone chose someone oshi-adjacent in some unspoken fandom rule, it was so funny. I like to think I’m decent at writing for Ruggie but I only get compliments on AO3 for my portrayal of the autistic lizard.

>>558247783
Yana loves playing with genre but man do people get up in arms about it. The sports-anime-style arc in Black Butler was hilarious, and then she pivoted right into an idol arc? Funniest shit in the world, but there are people out there it pissed right off. No one lets Yana be funny. Charlatans.
Actually now that I think about it did Twst do the same thing backwards, from idol to shounen sports story with the interscholastic games coming up?

>>558426591
>shounen sports story
Not with these assholes kek
That'd basically just be Jack's dream again

I remembered that Ortho's mom built him that body in book 7 and had the thought of "hey so that was kind of like his mother giving birth to him in the most literal way she could given their situation" but then I realized that that goes both ways and would loop around to Idia having given birth to his own dead brother, so that was certainly a thought to have. I hope I looked like I was concentrating at work because I was not, was thinking of an anime-disney-boy and his mother both giving birth to the same dead child.

>>558479250
cute!

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Twst is top 3 joseimuke in the nothing-month of feb, so that's good, but how the fuck is ensemble stars making almost three times the profit, that art is so shit.

>>558497978
And the boys on it are just plain and soulless cardboards.

>>558497978
>>558503446
Are any of the songs in Ensemble Stars any good?

>>558497978
>nothing-month of feb
>lion OB
Shaaame

>>558497978
>>558503446
>>558503562
That's something I've been wondering myself as well a while ago. Twst seems to have a bigger presence online nowadays, many fans are dissatisfied with Enstars's current state (EN fans at least), I agree that the character designs aren't good and they arr rook the same but with different hairstyles/colors ( however let's say this one is purely subjective and this is a common issue with gachas anyway ) yet it's still outselling Twst? Is it because Enstars music is legit good or is their japanese fanbase that dedicated and loyal?

>>558510821
Theorising here but probably the latter. Enstars is an idol game and it's 10 years old? I've seen people do really crazy spending in idol culture, loyalty is part of the game and whatever we think about it now can't negate the huge following it has gathered over those years because of the bigger mainstream appeal. They have way more things to pull than twst too. Adding on my personal experience, twst feels very f2p friendly. I've seen a JP post once admitting to never spending money on it since they've been doing just fine pulling for their oshi f2p but the story was so good they decided to start paying monthly as appreciation kek

>>558513397
I've never touched ENstars cause it looks shit but I agree. I bet after a certain point it just becomes a part of your everyday life. You pay ENstars like you pay your gas or electric bill. It's not a good or bad, it's just...what you do. Like a subscription.
>paying monthly as appreciation kek
I've done that too. Don't particularly NEED anything and would be perfectly fine not spending money, but throwing occasional cash their way is the closest I'll ever come to being able to send bank transfers straight to Yana and Ozawa, so that's what I do. Having ggwp out there for free on YouTube is a crime, I would pay for that no question.

>>558517053
>for free on YouTube
I hope Bjewel's recording sells really well, would love to encourage more of that stuff, doing a real world/in-game overlap was nuts.

Just saw a live-action-moana ad. I wonder if they're gonna give us a moana event. Give another 1/3rd of the cast beach outfits. I'm thinking: Cater, Leona, Ruggie, Jade, Malleus, Jamil

>>558525679
Twstfes was 2023, yeah? And BJ in 2025? I wonder if they're gonna keep up with every-other-year live events.

>>558532614
Does enstars do stuff like that? Is there anyone on this board who can tell us anything about enstars. Or are we all cursed with good taste.

>>558529805
I admit I keep thinking that if Fairy Gala can get a remix, then because of Lilo & Stitch 2, the chances of them doing a Lost in the Book with Stitch remix are high! Maybe they didn't think about it when the first live-action movie was released, but with the success of the film, and I bet Yana liked the movie, when the sequel was released, they might release an "If" version of the Stitch event, with maybe other experiments, like Angel? But then, which characters would be in a new version of the Stitch event? Silver, Sebek, Leona, Ruggie, Idia, Ortho, and Jade?

Does anyone remember if any interesting info came out of last year's Anime Japan Twst stage?The hosts for this year are Tamaru and Furuta.

>>558502124
Cute

Anon we appreciate the thread bumps but I swear to god if you hit the image limit when we still have 500 posts to go in this thread

Are any of the OB cards even good? I've been using the same teams for the past few joint exams because I'm too lazy to rethink buddy bonuses.

>>558629561
Now that you mention it the joint exam thing coming up in an hour will be a great time to test that out. I've been loving OB Azul and Leona but I might just like watching the little attack animations. Mental breakdowns in chibi form. Love the hyenas.

>>558629561
Idia is very OP
Malleus' cosmic boost makes him very useful in cosmic exams
Azul is a health regen beast
Jamil and Leona are pretty strong attackers too
And I heard that Vil is so-and-so but I don't have him to give my opinion

>>558633139
Oh man I forgot about OBMal, I use him all the time but I also have basically no other cosmic cards.

Maintenance extension, odd. I wonder if they're pre-loading for the anniversary.

Getting my butt kicked in the cosmic battle as we speak god damn.

Twst has me wondering if I only started complimenting things as "absolutely beautiful" after Book 5 or if I've always said it as a part of just speaking english but I didn't notice how much I say it until after Book 5.

I wonder if there is already someone who has made it to S6. I just got to S2 and it's the highest I've ever gotten.

>>558656758
I got S2 as well but my flora and cosmic teams suck ass so I don't think I can do better than that.

>>558544821
I don't know the answer of your question, but I've seen jpsisters speculating that:
>The introduction of Prince Rielle and Twst Jasmine as we do know that 2C will compete together
>Anime-related news (but why would Azul and Kalim's seiyuus be the hosts since Savanaclaw is the next book to get adapted)
>A new Lost in the Book event featuring Kalim and Azul as SSRs this spring (I personally think this one is the most likely to happen)

>>558664960
Huh??
Wrong thread homosuck anon

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>>558665331
Sorry, meant to post this. Would Azul's teeth be like bone teeth? Or is it like small beaks in a mouth since octopusii don't really have teeth?

>>558665863
Kek, is this the artist's thinly veiled fetish or something?

>>558593214
Jamil always seems to get lots of "copying the Disney counterpart" type art.

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Amazing update lets us choose and set supports for each exam. No more praying your whale friend changes to what you need.

I think it's slightly cute how Azul's seiyuu has his birthday a couple of days after his character.

>>558662731
People who try to connect the hosts to the content are so cute. I bet all my madol that Furuta isn't there for a Kalim-relevant reveal, he is there because he's cheap. The guy barely works, probably had the most open schedule and the lowest rate, that's all. Tamaru is a little busier so I could imagine a connection to Azul in some way I guess, if someone decided it had to be him and his schedule allowed it.

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>>558702387
This is a baseless and bitchy thing of me to say so I can't ever say it on main but you know how furuta never smiles in photos? I think he hates his nose. He practically ruined the presser for the first twst exhibit cause Hanae was there doing a proper job and he just stood there staring like a dead fish. It is so hard to find a photo of him smiling, but he is super expressive and energetic in live events, and I think it's cause smiling makes his nose look big and he's self conscious about it. I couldn't believe they let him promote the exhibition like this, all the photos are just like this, what were they thinking?

>>558702387
One thing that his jp va and dubber have in common: struggle to get people to pay attention to them kek
his dubber posted to fucking reddit introducing himself. that's how you know you're a bottom-of-the-barrel dubber.

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Keep trying to figure out why ENsisters keep talking about these but I'm not sure I get the attraction. They're just more trinkets? Maybe I'm missing something. Twst going to impressive lengths to invent merch that can't be sent overseas.

>>558728387
Proxies gonna be getting instructions to break them open and dump out the black stuff, bet.

EN is dropping Idia's OB and Vil's OB together. I'm not a "death flag" kind of person but I would love to start spreading the rumor that EN is gonna EoS and they're squeezing the fandom for all they got first. They deserve it.

>>558740325
It is quite odd. I have been saying forever that EN seems desperate for cash. That isn't to say that JP doesn't want our money. It is a gacha, it is a literal money-making machine. But a third rerun of Glorious Masquerade? EN-exclusive clubwear reruns? And then they ran through the events and main story so fast that they caught up. We'd all been assuming that was their aim but apparently not, because now they're rerunning Ridunzel less than a year after the first run because they just don't have any other content to use. They went too fast. There was never a plan. What did they think was going to happen?

>>558740325
Imo they're doing this either because the EN profits are bad or the anime has brought a new wave of fans and they're trying to milk them dry. Crazy ass schedule either way, two OBs and a fan-favorite event card whose initial run was approx. 4 months ago? JP server would never.

>Birthday Jacket from free 10 roll
>Cozy Clothes from 10 gem right after
Azul hot period, crazy luck. Also damn, this is THE Azul card for me, no glasses and bed sex hair.

>>558740325

>>558747349
>What did they think was going to happen?
It's like EN is living every month as though it might be their last. "We might get shut down in February, but we know we're here through January, so quick, boardgame Idia rerun and OB Malleus out together." Then 30 days later, "We might get shut down in March, but we know we're here through February, so quick, OB Vil and Idia together than that rapunzel thing, this could be our only chance to rerun it." That's how they've been working for four years now. No wonder the localization sucks if they're working on 200% speed to try and beat a clock that might end everything at any time.

Sitting here minding my own business and suddenly remember Miyamoto's line reading in the first episode of the anime. Just him going まったく!but so perfectly in character, I love that grandpa.

Abema anni announcement let's gooo it's literally the entire first year class, they were able to get fucking aoi "god himself" showta for their little gacha livestream, twst is so cool.

Hey oldfags were ENers even more annoying before EN server because they didn't actually know what was going on and would make stuff up, or were they less annoying because the lack of English content acted like gatekeeping against the more obnoxious people? I'm wondering how hard I should be wishing for EN to EOS.

>>558764574
EN fandom was less obnoxious before because it was much less numerous and a lot of people in there knew japanese. Gatekeeping definitely was a big factor on why it didn't suck as much.

>>558764574
It's too late to gatekeep EN by eos the game server at this point, considering the anime, manga, and novels. Did you forget a good chunk of them don't even play the game? People will "translate" the jp server anyway if it comes to it. Still blows my mind we had people actually claiming the novels were the superior way to experience twst of all things.

>>558759818
I think they're going to reveal more news about Book 8, right?

Where are the rumors of a glorimas movie coming from, there's a bunch of jp theories about it did I miss something

>>558784559
I've also seen some people saying this and I'm confused. What could be the origin of these rumors? And is it possible to make a good movie out of this story?

>>558774554
The novels are the superior way to experience twst. If you can read Japanese. Cause the english ones are pure shtit.

>>558809015
No different from the game, then. Every time I switch from my en account to my jp account it's like "oh, right, this is actually good."

Call me strange but I really couldn't fathom caring enough to actively desire EN's shutdown. It's absolutely not up to snuff on quality but it also has literally zero bearing or effects on JP's side; it's existence can be ignored entirely without consequence.
>But the EN fans are annoying!
So? Block them and move on, you aren't forced to interact with them, it's not like they wouldn't be annoying cretins without being interested in twst anyway. You're not losing cool points from being into twst because they're also into twst, it's a disney anime boy gacha game, people who would think you're uncool for enjoying the same things as them already think you're uncool for enjoying it.

>>558818240
>it's not like they wouldn't be annoying cretins without being interested in twst
It's amazing how many people don't get this. I've seen hate again fujoshi for the same thing and it's like, sure. Some of those people are annoying as hell and should probably be institutionalized. But not because they're fujoshi. The gay porn is not the problem, those people would be annoying as hell even without the porn. Some people are fundamentally fucked up, but that is not the porn's fault, or Twst's fault, or Disney's fault or whatever. They're just annoying people on a molecular level and should be ignored.
But I do understand not wanting those kinds of people in your circle. If I could excommunicate every annoying person from my immediate area, I would. And if EN shutting down will assist with that, there's no harm in hoping EN shuts down. It's not like people saying "I do or do not want EN to EOS" is going to affect anything at the end of the day anyway, who cares.

>>558818240
The people who complain the most about
EN players here are as mentally ill as the people they hate. If you can read JP, there's no reason to be wasting your time pissing yourself off hanging around the subreddit or whatever unless there's something psychologically wrong with you.
>>558510821
Enstars had enduring popularity because it fairly competently covered a lot of ground with little competition in the joseimuke market for a long time. Most of the properties that have come to inherit its popularity with female audiences only cover specific corners of what it provided, like twst with its well-written ensemble cast of highly-driven assholes or hypmic as a musically executed narrative project.
Sure, there were other male idol games like i7 and idolmas sideM, but the... I don't know how else to put it, strangeness? Of the characters and writing in enstars for an idol property allowed it to pull in fans who wouldn't have typically been interested in idol media. i7 has brother drama, and enstars has HiMERU, who speaks exclusively in third person while impersonating his estranged dead brother in order to exact misguided revenge on another idol, whose main character gimmick is that he's devoutly Christian. When the sequel game came out, they had to come up with reasons why all of the newly introduced boys had never been seen in the first run, and one of the character explanations was that Mayoi was there the whole time, but he was just living inside the walls of the school. It took place in modern day, but more often than not felt completely divorced from reality for reasons independent of the idol setting. It's up to you whether any of that is good, but you're really not going to find it anywhere but enstars.
It's been going on a long time, though, and poor decisions on the part of the developer, hand in hand with the writer obviously getting tired of working on the IP, have turned it into a pale shadow of its former self.

Thinking about that one enstars concert where two Rei oshis got into a fist fight in front of Midorikawa Hikaru.
Which twst boy is most likely to have this happen between his fans?

>>558824090
Described like that and enstars actually sounds kind of interesting but I will never be able to get over how awful the art is.

>>558825474
Midorikawa has got the worst luck with fans, the poor guy.
I can imagine any yume doing that in general, though. Those people are nuts.

I love the OB chibis turning up in the guest rooms and floating around like evil spectres. Vargas was a jumpscare though.

>>558824090
God, remembering all of the insane shit they were up to in enstars is so. It really is all about perspective, isn't it.
Vil's whole deal with Neige was kind of extreme in the context of Book 5 but when you compare it to enstars it's like... Oh yeah, you hate this other performer so badly you want him dead. Get in line. At least he didn't drive a bunch of people to suicide in pursuit of creating the best idol group like Eichi kek.
I feel like the most interesting thing to me is that enstars is the only joseimuke i can think of that pulled in a decent number of male fans? Ig since it had actual rhythm gameplay as a pull, but i saw a lot of male fanartists back in the day.
>>558827536
I prefer twst's art too bc the costuming is way more intentionally designed and yana's distinctive art style really matches the setting.
I still like enstars' art, though. I guess games like mhyk coming out and poorly apeing enstars's art direction made me appreciate it more.

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>>558832876
The face of true evil kek. Twst is ostensibly about villains but i think in terms of misdeeds eichi puts most of them on suicide watch
(Spoilered for off topic, sorry guys, will return to twst talk immediately)

>>558833565
Yeah this is the kind of art I'm talking about. It's so generic. That face looks like it was doodled in a teenage girl's notebook after reading her first "how to draw manga" book.

>>558833857
Honestly the fact that these guys were so genuinely insane while all of the card art was generic glitzy idol shit was kinda peak but I get it not being everybody's taste. I'm 90% sure the main writer for enstars is actually mentally ill. Not for the outlandish backstory stuff but because of shit like linkrel: https://uquiz.com/quiz/InKnrS/who-said-it-classical-russian-literature-or-ensemble-stars
>>558833565
Fr though the way ibara has everybody living off of idol scrip by 2nd is like Azul's wet dream lmfao

>>558835660
I'm not a fan of edgy for edgy type of stories, something dark doesn't necessarily make it good, looking at what anons are saying here it's probably not my cup of tea if the art didn't already turn me away. Twst feels more purposeful. Having Yana be so passionate about the ip is a huge plus. Once upon a time long ago though I applauded games like enstars and tkrb for at least giving joseimuke more attention and mainstream acclaim but now seeing them get away with poor quality and shoveling idol shit just doesn't sit well with me. It's like they know they can get away with the bare minimum and they do too.

>>558838809
If your game is going to be the top-selling IP, earning three-times as much as the next best-seller, no matter what you do? Yeah, you're gonna go onto autopilot sooner or later. I don't think Yana even has an autopilot, a mangaka out here telling a professional musician how to make music, and she is goddamn right. Damn. Maybe it's a shakespeare situation and she's actually like eight people in a trenchcoat.

>>558838809
>edgy for edgy type
Not really? That's just what these series tend to sound like when fans are casually talking about them, I've seen the same occur with twst many times in the wild as well.
Same as you're not going to get into a full play-by-play of how Lilia's backstory reveals the depths of what he's survived to become the playful but beloved figure he is to the Diasomnia group in a random convo, it's not like a couple of fans mentioning things off topic are going to give you a full rundown of the slowburn friendship development over the years through which Kanata has unlearned the dehumanization of his youth to achieve personhood.
Enstars can be criticized for what it's become in the past couple years, largely due to some poor writing decisions, but a big part of why those writing decisions have been so poorly received is because the development up to that point had been treasured by fans. Your criticisms as somebody who doesn't actually seem familiar with the series are somewhat premature and uninformed.

>>558839516
I used to worry a lot about Yana burning out eventually as she's only human at the end of the day, but one one of her hidden strengths is definitely that she's good at delegation and utilizes her studio to its fullest while still maintaining creative control. It's the same sort of "soft" skill that has kept other prolific multiproject creators like Kinoko Nasu in the business for so many years.
My biggest fear on the creator side is just that twst will eventually overstay its welcome, which I've seen happen before with other IPs. I know we all like to say here that we're fine with the status quo forever as long as we get to keep seeing our boys, but the financial reality is that titles like twst need regular injections of shiny new things to keep earning momentum going and henceforth stay afloat.
This is where enstars stumbled in recent years imo. It continues to outsellf twst because the scope of its audience vastly eclipsed twst's to begin with, but it lost a lot of audience due to the addition of new cast in a manner that unpopularly upset existing dynamics. It's a difficult line to walk, and they successfully pulled off something similar at large scale in 2020 with 2nd, but failed spectacularly with the latest attempt.

>>558841590
Yeah I'm worried about where they're going, too. A thing about stories like this is they have to end. People who play Twst aren't the 12 year old boys stuck on one piece and dragonball. I am the first person on the front line defending book 7 from people who bitch about it being too long, but even I know that things can't go on indefinitely and that is actually part of the appeal, the fact that there is a ticking clock and the school year in-game is actually moving forward, with characters getting older and everything. There is like one, maybe two months left in the NRC school year by this point. I do not believe for a moment that they are going to move the 3rd years into internships to continue this timeline. I do not believe there is going to be a new year of first-years. This game is its characters, and the characters are only popular because of their dynamics. Aging everyone into the next school year would be throwing away 6 years of dynamics, 6 years of the reason why people play Twst. It's just not going to happen. Period.
So wtf are they going to do then? We don't know and thank god for that because the ideas I've seen people suggest are always crap. The only choice is to trust Yana and not worry about stuff we can't influence or change. Presumably, they have a plan. They've been seeing the rise and fall of the same gacha that we have and will not be blindly making the same mistakes.
Gotta tell myself I am only allowed to worry about the future of a disney anime boy gambling simulator once the mouse starts paying me to do so and not a minute sooner.

>>558809015
>Fraction of the amount of Yana artwork
>No Voice Acting & no 2D Live Model animations
>No Vignettes
>No Event/Birthday outfits, stories, and characters

Going with a resounding "No" to that claim. The Twst cast truly shines thanks to all that the mobage format can offer. The novels can be neat for world building or alternate ways of doing certain things but that's more of an added bonus on top of what is already established by the game. The novels also have to waste screentime on arguably one of the worst Yuus out there. I'd only rank Yuuka lower. Recommending the novel over the game is like recommending the anime over the VN for F/SN.

>>558843648
I totally agree.
This is the inherent tragedy of live-service story-driven games, I guess... I've been playing mobage for well over a decade now (been around since a few years before FGO first showed the world that mobage could be a serious storytelling format) and I've never seen one make a graceful exit. The business model demands you keep going until you're no longer profitable, and you either die young and beautiful having failed to reach a paying audience, or live to see yourself become a soulless shell of what you once were. I hate to say it, but it's almost better for something good to die prematurely than it is for it to rot to that extent.
Like all mediums, things are always changing, though, so maybe a new way of closing things out will be found in the coming years. Best thing we can do is as you say, trusting the process and relishing the good times while they're here.

>>558844179
Disparaging the novel for a lack of voice acting and animation is hilarious and also retarded. And it's not better than the entire IP, it is the objectively better retelling of the main story.

>>558844453
I keep trying to think of an option and I just can't. Maybe they will just legit end the thing before it gets too shit, who knows, "Thanks for playing Disney's Twisted Wonderland." It would be sad but it would be graceful, which is not something Disney is known for being. I also lowkey wonder if part of getting Yana onboard was the promise of a deadline. Like, a set ending, so that she can go back to Kuroshi.

>>558838809
Sorry that we gave you a poor impression, but I don't want to imply that enstars is just gonzo for the sake of being crazy. It's successful because the writer successfully maneuvres under the bright and larger-than-life idol veneer to ask serious questions about what it means to be broken and incomplete human beings navigating a cut throat society. All of these characters come from diverse and sometimes tragic backgrounds into odd solidarities with one another that may not portray a normal ideal relationship, but mutually provides what they need to heal and strive for whatever their better tomorrow looks like. Enstars is infamous for having a very intense and often mentally ill fanbase and it's absolutely exhausting to exist in, but I think it's because the topics the series tackles resonate with a lot of people who are lost and hurting.
The head writer has been working on this sprawling IP for over a decade now (enstars was preceded by a girl idol game in the same universe that EOS'd early) and has understandably lost steam– I empathize with a creator who's given their best with no hand in choosing when their child gets to see its exit. I appreciate the work that's been done, and saying that he's mentally ill wasn't meant to denigrate the overall quality of the writing– I think personal struggles with existence can be turned into good art that saves people. It's the unfortunate reality that there isn't a suitable replacement to properly pick up the mantle and keep enstars going in a good direction, and that it's not allowed to die. We should be so lucky if the same doesn't happen to twst one day, as others have discussed.

>>558841337
>>558846309
Oh damn anons I wasn't expecting these and will fully admit fault like anon said that I am uninformed since I don't play it. I also poorly worded what very specific and possibly nitpicky part of my tastes that stops me from getting into enstars. Hope we good here, didn't mean it as criticism.

>>558844179
Ch7 is a huge problem to adapt due to how much it uses the mobage format. There's just no replicating seeing Idia's special skill is summoning and then watching it come full circle summoning everyone to battle in a gacha pull. Laughed really hard

>>558847947
I'll admit that that moment wouldn't be the same in novel format but also the novels are never going to get to book 7 anyway so the point is moot. I can confidently say we're never getting a 4th one, and at this rate we might not even be getting a third. But the first and second ones were way, way better than the main story of the game. Especially Leona's.
>Yuuya bitching
Yeah it figures that americans don't like protagonists like that. It's the same reason why ENers all have dragon empresses from venus as their OCs and JPers have normal school girls. Cultural differences.

>>558838809
Dunking on irl idolshit i get but fixating this hard on a mobage being idolshit over and over is weird. We play twisted wonderland, people constantly make fun of it for being anime boy disneyshit. We should know better than anybody else not to judge something for superficial reasons

>>558847947
We're cool, I was half speaking up just because I was worried I'd misrepresented enstars when talking with that other anon. A lot of things that draw me to twst's writing in the present are things that drew me to enstars's writing in its heyday, so I'd hate for people here to think it's just full of shallow edge. I appreciate that we can have peaceful discussions in this thread.
Hope you have a good day/night, anon.

>>558841590
>the addition of new cast in a manner that unpopularly upset existing dynamics
Ugh, yeah. For those who aren't in the know, this is referring to the sudden addition of a new character who had never been alluded to or mentioned before to the unit Akatsuki. Akatsuki is one of the idol units of the original enstars game, so this was a trio that had an established dynamic developed over the course of a decade of content suddenly being upset with the addition of a new member.
I bring this up because this is my concern whenever fans mention injecting the series with new life by bringing in the 4th years or introducing a fresh wave of 1st years.
The enstars 2020 revamp was successful because new characters were able to be introduced as their own units with their own dynamics. In a crude approximation of twst's vocabulary, this would be like introducing new dorms. Enstars' 2025 drama, in comparison, would be like introducing a new character to Pomefiore with little to no consideration of Pomefiore's existing dynamics or aesthetics.
It's not like I have the professional background of Yana and co., so maybe they can think of a way to introduce new staple cast members that isn't disruptive. But I have a very hard time seeing it going well, as twst's interpretation of a school setting is more rigid than enstars's is.

>>558849985
>an established dynamic developed over the course of a decade of content suddenly being upset with the addition of a new member.
This is exactly what I'm afraid of for Twst, and exactly what the en children I see talking about, and exactly why I am so baffled by those who don't seem to think anything is wrong with it. It is so beyond comprehension to me that someone would come up with the generic idea of "what if we added a new year!?" and think they are god's gift to originality and creative genius when no, no, no, that sounds just so terrible, it would ruin everything. It is like talking to a space alien.

>>558850441
I could see it going well with the 4th years coming back to campus as new core cast if twst had consistently hinted at these characters existing in any tangible capacity beyond just "4th years exist". But despite twst being a well plotted-out series that's gone in for the long haul with a lot of its developments, we just haven't seen any inkling of that. So I find it unlikely that it will happen, and if it does happen in the current environement, I'm going to think it's a result of producerside cash grabbing.
My ideal would be for them to find a nice closing point on twst, shut it down gracefully, and put out a legacy version with all of the content available in one package like what Mega Man X Dive did. And then maybe a new project set in the same universe can be rolled out with a different theme focus than villains, giving space to continue expanding the world and leaving opportunity for the original twst's characters to make cameos. It's not favorable, but I'd even accept them bringing on a new artist/writer for this project and just having Yana in to write cameo events where the old characters appear, because a new project would be divorced enough from the original twst for me to not care. I guess because I've just seen too many good story mobage die ugly deaths after having their canon disfigured by attempts to strangle just a bit more life out of them.
Sorry for all the downer talk guys. I do kind of feel like I'm talking about grandma dying while she's still healthy and happy in the room with us, kek, I'll drop it after this.

>>558851556
Yeah I can see them dropping Yana and bringing in another creative, or more likely multiple new creatives. They've kind of been doing that since day one, yeah? The anthologies, the art galleries, the manga, all these published books of people who aren't yana and have no connection to Twst being brought in to write for it. Just like Yana gets called onto projects like touken ranbu to contribute, maybe they'll start calling calling in other people. It's in line with precedent, but personally if Yana is out then I am out, too. It would be a clean graduation point for old fans, and I doubt I'd be the only one, and I doubt the game is ignorant to that. There's that hollywood reporter interview out there with disney execs who said straight out that they wanted yana for this project because 1) she's a huge disneyfag but also 2) she comes with her own, built-in fanbase. That's one of the things they bought when they hired her, and I could see them losing it if they lose her.

>>558852667
Yeah, that's why I think they'd have to have a clean cut ending the current twst as we know it with Yana's stated consent even if they want to start a new project with a different creative spearheading. It'd have to be a new cast even if it's in the Twisted Wonderland universe, too, for me to be okay with it. There are plenty of other artists and writers who have huge followings they could bring on.
Honestly people here tend to talk like Yana is unique in her creative output and the diversity of projects she's gotten onto between twst and Kuroshitsuji, but she's only singular in that she's a female artist catering to a female fanbase that's done this. I'm not saying this to lower her regard– rather, I'd like to see new female-catered female creatives step up and follow suit if and when the day comes that Yana feels like she's done here and the stars align.
>>558226492
Moving beyond the scope of twst again but it still pisses me off that they pulled Yuya Takahashi for Ride Kamens when IMO he's produced the most vapid entries to Kamen Rider in the past decade. The latter 2010s when Ex-Aid yaoi reigned supreme were so bleak. There are plenty of other writers who have a better handle on what makes the female KR fanbase tick. If we could have gotten even a fraction of Junko's humor and sincerity with a side of her gleeful sadism (during Gavv last year I actually saw men complaining that it seemed like male ryona was her thinly concealed fetish), Ride Kamens could have had better wings. But the designs alone told me that that project had grossly misinterpreted what female fans would have wanted out of a Kamen Rider joseimuke. Like, do they think we don't have eyes??? What were those dogshit suits they tried to pass of on us??? But I digress.
Every day I'm so thankful that twst JP exists as a relatively competent and enjoyable joseimuke despite being under Disney. So many other IPs that could have gold on their hands have zero idea what fans want.

>>558854243
>dogshit suits
Had to google "ride kamens" to follow what is going on and huh. Those are some looks.

>>558854737
The designs they gave Ride Kamens felt condescending and out of touch. The majority of Kamen Rider fanart comes from female artists who show a great appreciation for the main series' suits in their careful rendering, and here Ride Kamens is acting like women can't get into Kamen Rider unless they explicitly show them at all times that these ugly, pale imitations have anime boys in there. Embarrassing failure to trust both your fanbase and the power of your own IP.
This is why it's so important to give creative freedom to somebody who is an actual fan with an understanding of what your target fanbase wants. Yana is so skillful that I've been compelled to go back and watch Disney movies I haven't thought about in decades. That's potency.

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If they don't rerun Savanaclaw Rook on JP I'm going to do something drastic

>>558855496
>compelled to go back and watch Disney movies
Twst hasn't been subtle about how that is one of the purposes of the whole game, to keep Disney movies relevant in the culture and people re-watching them and buying Disney shit because of it, like the world's longest and most plot-driven commercial. And I am right there with you, I am annoyed by how effective it is, as one of the hypocrites who adores twst but dislikes Disney. How dare they. But then Yana comes in like "And that oogie boogie thing, that was a fun time, right? Anyway, here is this ancient fae who escaped from prison" and it's like god fucking damn it Yana you are correct, and now I want to rewatch Nightmare Before Christmas.

>>558856519
I genuinely couldn't care less about Disney but I'll (totally legally, prommies) rewatch all of these movies to better understand Yana's vision lol

>>558857519
I signed up for disney+ to rip the twst anime and canceled after the final episode with "will register again for season 2." Which at this rate will be in 2029 I suppose.

>>558860112
There's no way the second season is gonna have anything near the hype of season one. I wonder how they intend to handle it. Gonna have a real-size cardboard cutout of Yuuka with Leona, Jack and Ruggie in Ikebukuro station? Doubt.

>>558854737
There is something uniquely depressing about seeing the characters of a cancelled project, like abandoned kittens or something. Even if they're just the product of a cash grab, they're still someone's babies.

On twst radio they were talking about the Anime Japan stage appearance and the anni ABEMA at the same time. And Ichikawa said, specifically, that it was the Anime Japan stage that is going to have some unbelievably big news. Wtf could it be.
He also said he's seen the groovy for Sebek's birthday card. It's kind of hilarious that the seiyuu are seeing those in advance.

>>558868267
Most likely a new trailer and release date for the second season, right? Or do you think that wouldn't be considered unbelievably big news? And if it's at the Anime Japan stage and not ABEMA, it probably isn't about the game, right? Do you think there's a chance the rumors about the Glorimas movie are true?

>>558868510
>the Glorimas movie
I found ground zero for this rumor and it's just someone talking about the costumes. The other tweets are just people talking about if it were possible, based on that original tweet, what they would like in such a case. Probably another example of AI translation sucking and/or someone who fancies themselves a JP->EN translator actually understanding nothing at all and making stuff up as a result.

>>558868267
Ichikawa is such a cute patootie. And he is an excellent MC, poor Ban gets nervous and only ever repeats "that's true" over and over again but you can tell Ichikawa actually plays the game, knows the story and has opinions on the characters. He and Midorikawa are a gift.