Any pointers for my DQV TTRPG concept? Still being fleshed out

>Set in the Kingdom of Gotha, 100 or so years after the events of DQV
>Haven't decided on a canon bride, maybe I'll just go with Bianca since she's my preferred one, or leave it ambiguous. Not really a big deal either way
>The Kingdom has expanded, as monster tamers became part of it's military
>Generally a kingdom where humans and monsters live in harmony
>Monster Wrangling and Battling has become a common sport in Gotha
>Prestidigitators and Old men of the sea are court wizards well respected in it's magical academies
>Golems work in construction and defense.
>Healslimes and relates slimes are part of the local clergy

>After the events of DQV, the following monster communities and villages were established by monsters tamed by Madason/hero
>Dwight invites fellow dwarves to live in Gotha, as well as elves(establishing dwarves and elves as playable races)
>Goodian invited his clan to live in Gotha, establishing a community of slime knights as citizens(halflings will be playable, slightly modified to fit slime knights better)
>Ward establishes an orc village in the kingdom(orcs will be playable)
>The previously mentioned races won't be treated as monsters, but other sentient races that can tame their own monsters, with halflings/slime knights coming right out of the box with their own green slmes
>Maybe I'll also reflavor mandrake marshals and hawk men with Dragonborn and Aarakockra stats if I want to use 5e

>Estark may or may not be the villain

I'm thinking that Gotha gets besieged by Estark's forces during a Monster Arena game as the impetus for the players to get into action.

>>557798786
The only way I can see the bride's identity mattering is if you wanted to do something with Stockenbarrel or Mostroferrato based on who wasn't chosen.
Remember that in the world of IV/V monsters can and often do turn into humans when well treated. There's Healie but also the whole town of former monsters in Nadiria.
You might want to check out the Heroes games if you haven't before. Don't get too excited for a good story, but they both take place in worlds where monsters are normally all friendly (1) or live in separate but mostly peaceful kingdoms (2). I always felt like Heroes 1 represented what the future of V's world would be like, even though it's definitely not supposed to be that.

I'm actually a bit glad that DQ12 won't have to target the Switch 1 hardware by this point.
Now that there're no remakes on the roadmap and we're not on an awkward generation shift it would be a really good time to get some news.

>>557801503
>no remakes on the roadmap
that we're aware of.

>poop goodness

>>>/vr/12387028
Man, that's a funny thread. Really shows just how many Dragon Quest "fans" in /vr/ don't know shit.

Who should be the artist for DQ12?

>>557807876
mspaint slime anon

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do u care her

>>557805649
A lot of people call Matilda an "OC" for whatever reason even though she existed the entire time and Horii said that he wanted to do more with her for a very long time. I guess its because barely anyone plays 2.

Is DQ7 Hero Sharkeye's spirited away baby or is he the descendant of said baby

https://youtu.be/dHg-v_34AB4?si=USTIhrrhiBNhsPI_
Missables in 7R

>>557827473
She pretty much is an OC. Nothing about who she is now matches her original portrayal beyond being a princess and a sister.

>>557827576
He's literally his son. Divine intervention led to him switching wombs in mid-term. It's just that nobody but the player ever figures this out.

>>557829628
A lot of the stuff in 2HD was made up for that game by using what little character that we had for the cast if at all. So by that logic, we're playing with a cast of OCs.

OCs are used specifically to refer to characters that were specifically added to a remake/port, chief example being the litany of remake only girls in Atlus RPGs.

>>557831079
Lady Cannock wasn't a character even by 8-bit standards. She was an NPC who only had one block of relevant dialogue explaining that her brother's a scatterbrain, and you could go the whole game without ever knowing she exists. As far as I'm concerned, she in 2HD is an all-new character at best based on an otherwise-nonexistent NPC.

>>557831849
She had different dialogue if you talked to her while Cannock was dead iirc
Maybe t hat was added for the GBC version

>>557832672
The "cursed Cannock" side quest wasn't in the original game, only the remakes.

Its weird seeing people say that phys isnt good enough in DQ7R just because magic isnt shit for once during the midgame.

Man, the cathedral of blight is hard as shit. I tried it out and got wrecked immediately by random npc's in the tower so I figured I might as well do nottagen first to gain some levels but even with that I'm still getting wrecked at the tower.
The difficulty spike is kind of crazy considering how easy the midgame was. I probably have to go out of my way to grind for the first time in this game

>>557836465
DQ7R flatlines its difficulty between Kiefer leaving and Hubbleish to give players "breathing room" in case you have bad combinations. Once Trolls, Gigantes and so on become more common, (Aeolus/Vogograd) enemy damage and more importantly bulk really start to spike because they expect you to make synergistic teams instead of random bullshit.

>>557836967
>because they expect you to make synergistic teams instead of random bullshit
Honestly that's probably where I'm going wrong. I managed to get this far using pretty much any vocation combo to grind them out while progressing through the story but I guess that time has come to an end

>>557837706
Yeah, save unlocking the extra stuff for postgame.

>>557836967
Not the same anon, but Cumulus Vex is definitely the point where 7R stops pulling punches. I only won the second tine through luck that he didn't Let Loose until near death. Now I'm at La Bravoure smacking slimes around for easy VP to get more jobs done, having already swept the cathedral once for treasure and dodging every battle because they're borderline bosses in themselves.

>>557801503
It will still release on switch 1 of it released prior to 2028, switch 1 has such a large install base compared to switch 2 that it would be stupid to ignore it

>>557801503
If its a keycard release im not buying it on any platform

How annoying is it to get the lucky panel exclusive items? I'm so close to 100% but I'm kinda tired of it.

>t. newfag
The wind spirit's hot. Time to see if the water spirit's also hot.

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>>557852156
Okay, she's also hot.

>Physical
Hero, Ruff and Aishe generally have access to the actually good physical gear. Prioritize good secondary effects (elemental damage, effective bonuses and increased crit over highest attack).
Hammerhood, Cyclops, Brownie, Troll Skeleton Swordsman and Great Sabercat are your best friends. HM to Bodkin Archer since that also works for them but physical fighters are spoiled for choice.
>Magic
Maribel, Ruff and Mervyn have access to the Duplic Hat and so are objectively better than Hero and Aishe as mages when it comes down to it regardless of what "stats" may say since you can just use seeds to fix any issues.
Bodkin Archer, Meowmagician, Clawcerer and Vis Mager are the main hearts for these guys. Its also very important to take advantage of weapon effects when using mages as its impossible to cover every weakness (Lightning Staff in particular does a lot of work).
Make sure that you unlock Armamentalist or Monster Master along the way to Druid since they carry some very useful tools.
>Support (not an exhaustive list)
Oomph(le) - Fisherman, Armamentalist, Luminary
MMight Up - Troubadour, Mage, Sage
Buff - Fisherman, Priest, Sage, Hero
Magic Barrier - Armamentalist
Sap - Mage, Sailor, Pirate
Spell Res Down - Troubadour
Ele Res Up - Troubadour
Ele Res Down - Armamentalist
Zing - Priest, Paladin, Sage, Hero
Forbearance - Paladin
Kerplunk - Paladin

Gonna be on my way to wake up the Wind Spirit with a mage, a bard, and two clerics.
I don't remember if you have to fight her, but if so, I'm bout to get my ass handed to me.

>>557853137
Any good party compositions yet? I was thinking of running something like:
>Hero/Champion x2 for damage
>Druid/Armamentalist for magic+support
>Luminary/Mage for pure support
>Champion/Paladin on backup for Kerpluck or replace support for more damage
Double Kabuff and double Oomph turn one, (Ka)Sap afterward, spam Sword Dance or Gigaslash. Druid doing magic damage and emergency Omniheal. Luminary can start passing their turn if they're done with (de)buffing or swap to backup.

>>557860515
There's only 1 copy of the big monster hearts so trying to run 2x dps of the same damage type is a bit of a fools errand outside of Magic Burst memes which needs insane amount of seed farming.

>>557861331
I mean, I imagine there has to be some overlap somewhere with five characters. Something that hasn't been clear to me in recent games: Do elemental slashes scale off both Strength and Magical Might? I always feel unsure what I should be buffing for things like Gigaslash.

>>557861970
I think they're just based on your attack.
Gigaslash is weird cause in 2HD I noticed it didn't get boosted by Oomph

>>557861970
>>557860515
>Physical DPS
Champion/X. Sabercat/Skeleton Swordsman using Multifists.
>Magical DPS
Armamentalist/X. Elementary with Duplic Hat should be the best they've got since Mage's Rage is a forced crit and Duplic can simulate the Twocus Effect. This one needs more testing but the X is most likely going to be Druid or MM depending on how the crit thing with Kazam vs Kafrizzle stacks up.
OR
Sage/Druid, worse damage than the above but more of a generalist that can double as a Magic Burst bomb due to having the highest overall MP before seed shenangians.
>Enablers
(Destiny) Dancer - Muscle Dance is equivalent to non Brownie Focus Strength
Troubadour - Mandatory for any magic based DPS on top of bringing defensive utility
Luminary - Pass the Torch is broken
Armamentalist - DJ is stupid when you account for elemental phys skills/weaponry due to property inheritance on top of it already helping out mages.
>Defensive Support
Druid (Omniheal), Hero (Kabuff, Kazing, Multiheal), Armamentalist (Magic Barrier), Paladin (Kerplunk panic button, Forbearance tank)
The hard part is just coming up with a combo based on what you're missing
>>557863691
Gigaslash, Splitters and IIRC BoUP have fixed damage ranges based off your strength or something. But weirdly enough Flame/Gust/Aqua/Lightning Slash scale off multipliers (but are worse than just using a property inheritance weapon skill as long as the weapon isnt vastly outclassed)

>>557863914
Hm... Is there any reason to use Muscle Dance to boost an attack over Pass the Torch to just attack twice? Maybe MP consumption on your attacker, but does that really matter in a damage race?

>>557864774
Why are you running Luminary/Dancer on the same person? You split them for higher overall damage.

>>557865893
So what? One physical, one magical, two support?
>Champion/Hero
>Armamentalist/Druid
>Destiny's Dancer/Paladin
>Luminary/Troubadour
>whatever for backup

At what level is it reasonable to fight the almighty in 7R

>>557863914
Is Multifists better than Swords Dance for DPS?

>>557874631
Apparently Skeleton Soldier pushes it over the edge.

>>557869791
Champion/X
Paladin/X
Luminary/X
Armamentalist/X
Filler. Eg Mage/Dancer for Sap/Muscle Dance if no one is covering Def Down.

>Going into the final dungeon with incredibly scuffed setups because of bad midgame vocation routing
Whoops

>>557825889
i need a source, please.

>Going into the final boss without Omniheal
Hmm, this'll be interesting. Fortunately, T2/T3 vocations are generally sidegrades, so I should be fine with a bit of optimization.

Might end up running
Paladin/Armamentalist
Champion/Gladiator
Sage/Mage
Luminary/Troubadour
And a back up Paladin.

If I had actually bothered fighting all of the trash, it would be a different story lol.

I wish Serena was my girlfriend.

Your girlfriend should lay off the cakes.

But she likes them so much.

I'll give your girlfriend a cake.
With special frosting.

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they put me in the game 5 times :)

>>557907910
no that's me

>>557907910
Maribel’s charm stat must be the highest, because I swear no matter where I put her she always gets gangbanged by enemies turn 1.

Almost finished with DQ7R. This will be the 4th DQ I've played within 6 months and I had a lot of fun with it. I don't really like how they scaled vocation exp relative to the strength of some of the random encounters in the back half because after a while, it essentially turns randoms into things that you only fight for the sake of filling out the bestiary or getting drops like the Angel Leotard or the Hela stuff from Drakulards. If you actually want vocation exp, its way faster to just do a sweep across the world map while you're hunting down the Magic/Ultimate Key chests that you missed.
Maribel and Mervyn are my favorite characters, best island was probably Alltrades.

https://www.nexusmods.com/dragonquest7reimagined/mods/36
https://www.nexusmods.com/dragonquest7reimagined/mods/40
this guy is just making his own remake at this point

>>557932836
>those mods that replace the characters with Digimon
Why?

>>557932836
These patches are kinda lame to be honest because the skill progression in 7R is explicitly balanced around the idea that its a bunch of sidegrades.

Maribel's head on Angewomon's body dot jpg

>>557932836
Now why can't somebody mod the 3DS version so jobs work like on PS1 (all skills permanent)?

>>557932836
It may not be the most balanced, but the PS1 style is definitely the most fun to play with.

>>557932836
How about a mod that only makes the skills of everybody default job permanent, like how the prior releases had everybody learn basic skills through normal level-ups before the Abbey opens up.

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I'm tired of grinding, can I beat the Dragonlord at lvl 17/18?

>>557940104
His breath attack can hit for up to 70 damage

If I could retroactively tackle the vocation system of 7R, I'd give each vocation a cost and then would progressively give the player more slots to equip two or more vocations.

Example
Start the game with 1 vocation slot, end with 6 slots.
Base vocation costs 1 slot.
Intermediate costs 2.
Advanced costs 3.

>>557941971
If they wanted to keep the Pick 2 system I think it would be better for the classes to also bring the skills from their prerequisites with them
But I guess that wouldn't really work with how Hero is unlocked

>>557942598
They'd have to rework a number of skillsets, not just Hero alone because Priest for example has Midheal/Multiheal/Zing that are shared with Paladin.

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Wow, a good chunk of the islands in this game are real fucking bummers.

>>557942707
That was a change made for 7R since you wouldn't get to keep the skills unless you take Priest as your secondary.
Same for some of the other advanced jobs that got a few skills pulled forwards but not everything.

>>557943094
I definitely think that vii is the most depressing dq game

>>557943265
Good to know. I've only ever played 11 besides this one, and the only particularly sad bit that I remember was that whole mermaid thing.

>>557943738
Mermaid thing was a callback to the DQ2 mermaid town but yeah, might just be from the sheer volume of town stories but 7's got the most sad endings

We now have people claiming 11 was referencing 2 when it was actually 2 HD referencing 11 because nobody ever plays the original version of anything

>>557944548
Gimme a break I played it when I was like 6
I thought they just changed the town layout to match 11

>>557940104
You need to be like 19-21 bare minimum depending on your stats, which are determined by your name, strength being the most important one.
Your name gives you higher strength, so you should be able to do it at 19.

Is there no way to set tactics for party members in the mobile phone version of IV? You have to manually select actions everytime?

>>557948037
Are you at the hero's chapter?
I believe you can't set auto battle until then.

>>557941021
>>557947805
Yea, I just did an attempt to see if I could reach him but those red knights are too strong for me, low to flee and also low chance to stop his spells. Back to the grind I go...

>>557948948
Ah, yeah that would make sense. I haven't gotten very far. Only to Alena's chapter

>Takeshi Ichikawa, Producer of Dragon Quest VII: Reimagined:
>"I was in the lower grades of elementary school when I first played the PlayStation version. I remember thinking at the very beginning, “When will the battles start?” and I don’t think I managed to clear the whole game back then.
>When I played it again as an adult, I was able to complete it successfully, and I found the dark world filled with irrationality especially striking and modern."

So who started this meme about the guy in charge of DQ7R hating the game?

>>557951329
>I really liked the world, that's why we cut out a bunch of it plus some monsters because we were lazy

>>557951329
People who hate the remake.

>>557951329
PR-ese statements from producers don't actually mean anything.

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I want to buy DQ 7, I have switch2.
Is Switch 1 version a lot worse than s2? I hate game key cards.

>>557951534
If anything the game reeks of being forced to release before it was finished to pad out an investor's report. Vogograd and the new Kiefer scenario makes it blatantly obvious.

Its funny because people were saying that you could lose places like Greenthumb, El Ciclo and Grondal without losing anything meaningful from the overall narrative and now that they're cut, everyone's acting like its a huge affront to humanity.

This is why devs should never listen to fans.

>>557952207
The Switch 1 version has some annoying hiccups on the overworld map. But that's if you're playing on the Switch 1.
I don't think many people have compared the performance of the Switch 2 version with the Switch 1 version while played on a Switch 2.

>>557951827
anons' opinions on what is actually going on don't either

>>557952851
You might be shocked to learn that the internet isn't one guy and people have different, conflicting opinions about things. There are parts of VII I've complained about but the solution is to make them better, not remove them and call the game fixed.

>>557952569
The Kiefer bit is no more half-assed than the 3DS release where you go back to save him from getting killed by Cumulus Vex.

One guy online called the childhood part of V slow so we have to get rid of it so players don't get bored. Enjoy!

>>557953652
Slow ≠ pointless

>>557953652
Everything in DQV is relevant and if anything they need to add content for the other girls.
DQ7 does vignette storylines but not all of them are actually directly connected or relevant to the core plot which is why 7R removed 3 and left 4 as optional.

>>557953492
I just find it fucking hilarious how the prevailing narrative can change from the game desperately needs to excise stuff because its too long into I can't believe they cut stuff based on over 20 years of complaints all over the world.

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>>557953969
>not all of them are actually directly connected or relevant to the core plot
Greenthumb was supposed to show Kiefer what being a cuckold who doesn't pursue his love interest looks like. Just because the game doesn't beat you over the head with a complete lack of subtlety doesn't mean they aren't important. It was kept, but shuffling it until after his departure really defeats the point.

>>557954737
Roamers ends with Florin leaving and a big Kiefer shaped hole for him to fill in the camp since he's obviously in love with Lala and he never actually wanted to become king anyway. Watching Carraway cuck himself over not wanting to "hurt people" is a useful support for the decision but not necessary to tell the full story.

Isn't every DQ world supposed to have a Yggdrasil tree in it? Why would 7R remove what's meant to be a recurring fixture? Heck, where does all the Ygg leaves and dews come from without it now?

Why can't Kiefer just use the portal to visit his family and friends once or twice a year?

>>557956116
That might be technically true but it's usually a pretty minor element. Of all the things missing from 7R I'm not that broken up about it falling off the world tree checklist. I'm actually more annoyed that Yggdrasil in 2 HD didn't use the theme from 11.

The roamers dont stay in one place long enough.

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>medabots survivors releasing in the west before dragon quest 12
>new no game no life volume before dragon quest 12

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After almost 5 years I finally got her Crimson suit. Those boss fights sucked to do.

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Those status prevention rings don't do shit even at +3. I put 2 on everyone and they still get statuses.

>>557954175
Because you're hearing from people who didn't like the original saying they need to cut shit and then people who did like the original sad that they cut shit
This isn't hard to figure out

>Anyone that complains about an aspect of a game never liked it
Let's not go down this slippery slope.

>>557966128
There's no such thing as total immunity in a DQ game. Even with 100% block chance, certain enemy skills like sleep-gaze can totally ignore it.

>>557967772
*Lullab-Eye! That's what it's called.

Happy belated year of the horse, /dqg/!
Would’ve posted on the 17th but I was on vacation.
Also, what level am I meant to be at for 7R’s DLC bosses?

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>>557977146
Forgot pic.

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Idunno, I think cutting content in a remake is terrible precedent to set. They could've improved upon it, made it optional, put in an alternative, etc., but instead they just outright removed it in a full price remake. This, on top of making the game easier overall with added guardrails, is basically giving a middle finger to fans who actually liked the original for what it was, all in the name of casualization.
Pic related was a "casualized" remake that
>made the hard difficulties actually hard
>incorporated the bonus content from the prior versions into the main campaign/post-game
>expanded heavily on a lot of areas (like the final dungeon which is now three thrice the size)
It was not without flaws, but overall it was well received by fans and newcomers alike. But DQ relies a lot on brand power and, much like Pokemon, can get away with a lot because of it, at least in Japan. It's just a shame that this kind of thing is becoming more acceptable now.

Maribel STINKS
ewwww

>Flamesplitter
>Gigaslash
>Sword Dance
>Share MP
>Mens Sana
Kiefer doing his own thing.

>>557963163
what’s the big deal about no game no-
>3 years since the last volume
oh

When doing post game grinding did any of you change the settings for exp earned to make it faster?
I'm tempted to

>>557979014
Its not like DQ7 was hardcore its just fucking long
They shaved off a lot of the percieved reasons why 80% of people never finished the game originally whether it was the best thing to do or not

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Wow, fuck this guy.
Even after sucking it up and changing to some already mastered intermediate classes, instead of the beginner ones I was trying to get through, he can still rock my shit and wipe me the second he decides to start landing brutal hits, each one is basically a guaranteed kill, and he's a fast fuck too.
I definitely did not remember him being so difficult in my first playthrough, hell I didn't remember him at all, but he's giving me hell this time around.

>>557980667
You know what REALLY stinks? The fact they made her less bitchy in Reimagined.

>>557990257
FINALLY
He got tired of picking people off instantly with 250 damage brutal hits, so I finally got the chance to fucking kill him.

Rampaging Orgodemir was kinda easy. Meanwhile, Xenlon and the Four Elements keep kicking my ass. I don't know how I'm supposed to do anything, they act so many times. Xenlon literally acted five straight times the last time I tried.

>>557995146
Act 2 Jade one day after the defeat of Mordegon

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>>557995923
You mean after we left everyone in the doomed world?

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Who did you choose?

>>557998872
The dog, of course.

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>>557998872
I chose to change Serena's hairstyle.

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>>557999692
I did too until I gave her the crimson suit because short hair looks weird on her.

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>>558000187
Serena is really really smart.

>>558000187
Anlucia is that you?

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I wish Reimagined had more costumes.

>>558004170
>Add costume system
>Don't add costumes
really boggles the mind

>>557992832
powerthrow is your best friend and it helps with the almighty too

>>558000187
Why do people dual wield with Serena so often?
Is it due to the bonus effect of the wands? Or is it just the magic mending?
Doesn't seem worth to me.

>>558007269
It's cute.

>>558007269
>>558008932
Dual wands is a novelty, and it's cute. And I like stealing a ton of MP. But mostly it's cute.

>>557991319
Most of the time desperate attack type moves are straight up a HP checks
It does get a bit annoying when it happens before the postgame

>>558007269
>Is it due to the bonus effect of the wands?
Her two best wands autocast buffs on her IIRC
You can swap the offhand wand for a shield after that

If you equip Serena with a shield and she blocks an attack from a slime she probably licks the splatter off the shield when nobody's looking

>>557990257
Paladin, Golem/Dragon
Buff on the Paladin, Immense Defense + Miracle Shield
Mash the Forbearance button.

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>Pokeshit selling gen 3 roms of Kanto before dragon quest 12

>>558011513
Man, at least when Squeenix sells us the same games again they generally make significant changes, even if not all those changes are for the best.

>>557996529
God I despise that part of the game. It's not a heroic decision at all

>>557979014
>is basically giving a middle finger to fans who actually liked the original for what it was
where were they when the game was exclusively shat on for almost 30 years?

>>558011513
>>558012356
they're not selling anything, they're putting them in the switch online subscription "people" already have
don't make me defend them

>>558022671
Untrue actually. They are selling on the eshop for 20 bux. It's not NSO.

>>558022892
i got bamboozled by the trailer showing a gba on there then, i stand corrected
good thing my switch is hacked

>>558022465
Don't ask him that, he'll claim that they were totally there the entire time and it was only a vocal minority that frequently put DQ7 among the bottom 3 games.

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>>558012356
*zooms behind you*
Heh...

>>558010445
I was talking about PS1 version.

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Is DQVII RE worth it?

>>558028968
No, not really.
Its objectively worth less than the HD2D games, however you feel about those.

>>558028968
Yes.

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>>558028968
The voice acting and visuals are a novelty, but the PS1 version is still the only one with all content by virtue of being the original. Dragon Warrior VII is still the best way to play the game, and its visuals are charming in its own right—especially if you liked the DS remakes of the Zenithian trilogy.

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>>558028968
yes, by which i mean it's worth to play. Whether it's worth to spend money on it's up to you

>>558032181
This. All it really needs is a smaller font and cleaned-up text to get rid of the crappy abbreviations and it'd be truly perfect.

>>558033243
An exp system for the classes similar to FF's Job Points would be nice as well.
7R almost did it right, but just made everything give the same amount of points, which defeats the purpose.

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>pokemon firered and leafgreen 20 dollars each on the eshop before dragon quest 12

Honestly, I don't mind the casino not returning in future games. It gets boring after being pretty much the same thing in so many games. You just have to savescum until you win big. Nowadays I dread having to do the casino on playthroughs

>>558033810
gamefreak are the biggest scum in gaming

>>558033831
DQ game without a casino is just soulless

>>558033810
Will it still have the game corner?

>>558033831
Dragon Quest made me into a bit of a gambling addict, and got me interested in going to one irl, so having no more casinos really sucks for me.
I'd probably be going bankrupt irl at the casinos if Megami Tensei and Yakuza didn't have me covered, thankfully I got into those series recently.

>>558034107
It should. The new E10 rating mentions simulated gambling.

>>558034213
So a re-release of Pokémon can keep its casino but a remake of DQ can't?

>>558034745
Maybe PEGI defaults to their old rating for rereleases? Or they don't give enough of a shit to edit it so they'll take the mature rating in Europe, only manchildren are gonna be buying it anyways.

>>558034060
The first game with a casino was 4, not to mention that 9 never had one.

>>558034745
>>558035039
The game contains elements that encourage or teach gambling. These simulations of gambling refer to games of chance that are normally carried out in casinos or gambling halls. Games with this sort of content could previously be classified at PEGI 12 or PEGI 16.[7] As of 2020, all new games with such content, whether or not real-life currency is directly involved, are rated PEGI 18, although older games retain their existing classifications

Lucky panel it's such boring bullshit. And I still have 7 items to go.

>>558035480
I unironically prefer Tombola.

>the substories look kind of "empty"... I remember for instance in DQVIII some substories were really beautiful. I played that game many years ago and still remember the story of the tiger that didnt accept death or in DQXI the mermaid story but on DQVII after 23 hours I find the substories not memorable at all (they are all basically the same: a town, a problem, solve the problem, next) or they just dont make much sense (the "egyptian" one, the "dragon" is missing, you travel to the future get a skull, back to the past, throw it in the water and voila! the dragon is back, does his thing and vanishes again). It is like a children book where things happen just because.
>People saying that this is how DQ games are have no idea... DQVIII and IX were ABSOLUTELY NOT like this.

Do you agree? Is DQ7 a hollow outlier from the rest of the series?

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>>558038379
>It is like a children book where things happen just because

>>558038379
>Do you agree? Is DQ7 a hollow outlier from the rest of the series?
No. It's simply the culmination of what every DQ game before it did, and then DQ8 changed everything about how the franchise worked.

>>558038379
I always found 7's substories to be more memorable than the other games.
1 and 2 had none basically before HD
3, 4, 6 and 8 I barely remember anything from
I remember nothing from 9
Did 5 even have substories?
Actually the only games with memorable substories for me are 7 and 11. Time will tell for 10. I'll probably forget the Erdrick Trilogy ones again when the remakes aren't so recent in my mind.

>>558039298
Yeah, but 90% of DQ7 is substories.
If you don't remember them you may as well not remember the game.

>>558039298
I feel like the first game that really started the sub story thing that DQ is known for is 4. Like yeah I know that 3 had the stuff with Kandar/Robbin 'Ood, but its the remakes that steadily fleshed that (and 1+2) out over time.
Aside from that some games are more main narrative focused and others are more sub story focused.

>>558039298
9 is by far the most similar to 7 in terms of town stories (and the main plot barely mattering). Some of the early ones in 9 are really good, but later on it peters out a bit.

>fucking DQ7 gets a remake
>we'll have to go through fucking DQ6 before getting a DQ5 remake
depressing

>>558041253
Good. DQ5 fags are too uppity and I'm tired of people parroting that 6 is a bad game.

>>558041253
>>558043118
Won't matter because we're no doubt getting another DQ4 remake first.

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>>558017219
It makes me sad leaving them to live their lives without the hero and just live in that messed up world.

DQ6 is cursed and will never receive a remake without DQ4 and DQ5 receiving one first.
But 4 and 5 are much longer games than 1 and 2, so they aren't as easy to come by, and also by the virtue of being long games, most players will be burnt out of DQ by the time 6 gets its chance, just like last time.

>>558044230
>timeline order
6 > 4 > 5
>release order
4 > 5 > 6
Either way, 5 has to wait.

The only dragon quest games that actually need remakes are 8 and 9. 8 so we can get all the content that the 3ds version added along with actually good graphics that it should've had and 9 so all the dlc dungeons are part of the base game and because that's the only one without a remake yet

>>558044639
Please look forward to UE5 Team America DQ8

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On the left gigadein, iconic sacred lightning spell that only the hero can use.
On the right gigospark, a completely unrelated lightning spell that anyone can learn.

Is there any lore on this?
Or did the devs just went "whatever, I want to give lightning spells to other characters too"?

>>558044936
>Heavenly lightning that can only be used by the hero
vs.
>"Hell Spark", most associated with edgelord Terry
DQ magic doesn't really have lore but the general idea is clear enough.

final boss in reimagined is kinda hard. idk if lvl 50 is just too low or something. I wonder how much grinding I gotta do to beat him

>>558045180
>resorting to grinding any time a game poses a little threat
Build a more optimized team and/or use panic button tools like the billion Kerplunk Bracers that you'd inevitably have.

>>558044091
According to Horii you don't actually leave them behind, that world merges with the new one when you go back in time.

>>558045496
That's what I assumed.
Time travel rules work whatever the way is more convenient.
When the hero time travels, other characters start having deja vu about events that happened on the other timeline, clearly implying the timeline was merged into one.
But when Serenica does it, she just creates a new timeline so she doesn't erase the hero.

Maybe it's related to the sword of light breaking?

>>558046270
>But when Serenica does it, she just creates a new timeline
She's dead. She went back in time dead, reunited with Erdwin who was dead, and they reincarnated into Eleven and the twins. There was no timeline split.

>>558044852
But we already had Matt Damon.

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>Nuh-uh! Actually, we're all still alive and also I still have my turn!

Why are Meena and Maya brown?

Wow, 87 hours of playtime and I'm at the end of disc 2. That was way shorter than I remember it being, though I plan on doing immigrant town and the bonus dungeons I never tried before so its not quite over for me yet.

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Yes I did marry her in the 3DS version.

>>558050919
Yeah, around 90 hours is pretty normal for DQVII PS1 just focusing on the main story with some padding from party talk and item collecting. Getting all the Immigrant Town variants to buy everyone's best equipment is a bit of chore, though. You can skip the Cathedral variant since it doesn't have anything useful. By the time you do all that and clear the bonus dungeons, you'll probably be around 110 hours depending on any miscellaneous grinding you want to do.

>>558051886
>You can skip the Cathedral variant since it doesn't have anything useful.
Doesn't it still have a Mini Medal? I think the King won't accept any more after he gives you all his prizes.

>>558058942
Cathedral has zero treasures. No mini medals or anything else.

>Sim's Diary: "Page 250 - The city has grown bloated with clergy. The women that have been drawn to this town are so cold and demure. I went to the temple again this morning. It's become a part of my daily ritual. Every day, I pray for God to annihilate the religious zealots that now choke the roads of 'town name'. I pray that they all die suffering."

>>558024241
That at least came with an art gallery.

>>558034745
Emulated titles have special exceptions that allow them to be released as they originally were without changes being forced on them.
Usually. Sometimes things like a lewd sprite or something might get covered up.

>>558062429
Doesn't there have to be proof from the developers that nothing in the original game is being altered barring tiny edits for content?

>>558062429
This is what SEGA was using to get around being able to keep using Michael Jackson's songs in Sonic 3 for a long-ass time. They were only releasing emulations so could keep using the music scott-free.

>>558063468
To my knowledge, nobody in the Jackson estate really cared about Sonic 3 until MJ died and everybody crawled out of the woodwork trying to cash in on his legacy. Sega simply stopped re-releasing Sonic 3 altogether to shut all the moochers up.

DQ game with a Crush 40 main theme

>>558063945
There's gotta be a reason the old-ass PC version didn't release with that music.

THWACK!

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>phil spencer retiring before dragon quest 12

>>558078081
Everybody wish Maya good luck as the new head of Xbox

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>>558044091
Uh? What's the origin of those marks under each character? Besides the luminary mark, I mean.
I've just realized their skill trees are roughly based on those marks.

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>>558079969
Butterflies are the universal symbol for big tits black haired girl

>>558051886
How does the option to evict immigrants work? I know you can't go under 24 and there's some who won't ever leave, but I only ever get a small group to kick out. Are they selected based on how long they've been around or is there something else?

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>>558079969
Jade's MMA mask was a butterfly.
Best I've got.

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Common enemy types that transform, did they make any of these after VIII? Whenever I run into frog enemies, I want it to be these guys, I can't remember if they ever returned.

>>558084189
Alright, looks like three get picked at random and you keep shuffling through them until you're down to 24.

>>558090412
I think they showed up in a couple Monsters games.

12 has got to be coming sometime this year, right? I can't imagine any other reason why they would release 1&2, and 7 so close to each other

>>558095773
There's not a single trailer yet, and the developers were probably busy with the remakes until recently.
I wouldn't bet on that.

>>558096354
The first CG trailer for DQ11 was like a year and a half before it was out in Japan
The actual gameplay trailer was about 6 months before launch
But ultimately Squeenix loves to announce shit before they even started actually working on it so who knows

>>558096742
At least we will have a simultaneous release this time.
But this will also add one month or two of development.

>>558059649
I think it's the only place to buy the Vivify Staff, though.

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>>558104051
Things were simpler back when there were only 2 wives.
I could edit my save, add both and change the hair color of one kid.
Can't quite do the same with 3.

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>>558104805
Hero + three slots in the active party makes this pretty elegant, though.

>>558107296
>Lv 8
>Lv 18
Fix your team, anon.

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wtf is this guy's problem

>>558098407
i never got that thing anyway, like SE says it as if every other developer out there doesn't also do worldwide releases without complaining about additional dev months
like i get it being a thing up until the early 00s, but with SE it's like it's still a problem to this day

>>558084189
>>558090694
Sounds like you figured it out. I also recommend saving the Casino for last. It has the most activities once you're done item collecting, and God's dialog after you invite Him there is funny.

I was scouring the japanese internet and it seems like a lot of people like the new Maribel content.

>>558130469
Noted. Currently trying to unlock the farm first.

>>558131420
Following up on this, is it me or are farmers, dwarves, and animals the rarest spawns? Seems like immigrants needed for the other towns are fairly consistent in appearing, but those for the farm take forever to pop up. I didn't even get the last crucial pig to appear until post-game.

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Do you emulate or do you play on the original hardware?? I wanna play the ds and 3ds versions of the games, I have a 3ds and a switch but sitting at my desk is just more comfy most of the time than holding a little handheld.

>>558138092
Depends on whether I want to take screenshots to share with the class.

>>558045496
This still erases peoples experinces and memories, it essentially kills the people we knew if this is the way it works.

do I need to equip metal king slime heart on someone in my main party to get the increased chance or can I put it on one of my backup party members and still get the bonus?

>>558138092
you do what you want, for example nowadays when i want to play in bed i just stream shit from my desktop pc with moonlight to my hacked switch, as i don't have a steam deck and buying one at this point is not worth it (i'd rather wait for a new revision instead)

>>558141338
you're not supposed to think too much about the details, it's essentially "the good stuff happened while the bad stuff didn't, don't worry about it"

>>558138092
I was gonna play DQ7 PS1 on original hardware till I saw that it was 200 bucks on ebay and said "fuck that" and just emulated it instead

>>558142971
I would never play DQ7 on the PS1 again, because I know at some point in the game I'd just get fed up with the vocation system and would want to cheat.

>>558142971
Damn, I bought it for like $40 back in 2018.

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>>558142971
Are prices really that crazy now? Damn.
>>558144950
>he didn't master all vocations (including monster hearts) on all five characters
You are weak.

>>558145385
it seems to have calmed down a bit since reimagined came out but a few years ago it was around 150-200$ for a ps1 copy of DQ7 yeah

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>>558145685
I found one for $70 at my local game store recently.

Is Maya's entire personality just wanting to be at the casino? I'm only at the beginning of the fifth chapter and I swear at least 10 of her party chat's that I've seen are about her wanting to be at the casino in endor

Now that I'm going through the town building process again, it makes a whole lot more sense how I had 123 hours on my original save of 7 PS1 despite not doing the bonus dungeons.

>>558147619
Her personality is also "Find and marry a rich man (So she can spend his money at the casino)".

>>558147661
Walked out on the NPC I wanted by accident FOUR times now.

>>558147661
Good luck. Me, I'm trying to figure out which Mini Medal I missed after having done the math and realizing I'll still be one short after all the final towns and the second bonus cave are done. I'm confident I got all the ones that could be permanently missed, though that fear is still in the back of my head.

The GBC version of DQI+II only allows 4 letters for hero names
What should I name them?

>>558157716
BALS
TO
THE
WALL

>>558157716
Lora
Cann
Moon

does the game ever tell you about the puzzle for the grand conjuratorium hidden room? how do you figure that shit out? is it one of those secret things that used to be exclusive to guides so they can sell them?

>>558161184
Its literally the exact same puzzle you had to do in the castle. Its super easy to figure out.

>>558156654
Did they give Door-chan a personality in 7R? Haven’t played it yet

>>558161184
One of the NPCs in the past tells you.

>>558167743
She has a lot of personality during the first few hours of the playthrough.
Then eventually your party just stops directly reacting/interacting with the events of the game, because that's how the original game was and the team didn't want to reimagine everything.

>>558168452
I think anon meant Aishe.

>>558168452
>Then eventually your party just stops directly reacting/interacting with the events of the game, because that's how the original game was
The party in the original reacts to literally every story event though, its just all in the party chat.

>>558169203
Kinda wish they still kept the ".../lost in thought" message so I know when to stop checking the party chat and move on.

>>558176130
This plus making the prompt only appear when an interesting chat appears, rather than only for the lame "hey retard, go here" lines.

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>Simulation forces you to live out 10 years of slavery in seemingly real time

Wow thanks devs, very cool

>>558190998
Of all the dumb shit in this movie the way it shrugs off the slavery sequence is still the one that annoys me most. I guess it fits the twist that it would be glossed over rather than making salaryman-san break rocks for real, but man. Gotta save that screentime for the love triangle that doesn't matter at all in a movie, I guess.

>>558191378
>program a suggestion system to help players pick the wife they choose before going into the simulation
>it makes them pick bianca anyway

>>558191541
It's all so goofy. I'm sure they felt like they had to include the bride choice because it's such a famous part of the game, but that was never a major contributor to what made DQV's story good. I'm not even a Biancafag but the only sane way to capture any of V's magic in a movie is to just have Bianca, cut 90% of the courtship shit, and spend that time on childhood, slavery and the final act where it's actually needed.

Anyone have that image of the dq3 party just starting out. then the other pic of them a big grown up and the gadabout has become a sage and is giggling at the mage?

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>>558194706
found it

>>558157716
Lors
Cado
Peri
Tily (if she was in this)

>>558202204
(she was in this but not as a party member)

>>558203190
Doesn't count, then.

chubby Veronica

Cor blimey!

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Hot take:
The PS2 version of DQV is inferior to the original and the DS remake purely because it makes Pankraz's death a cutscene instead of an in-engine battle.

It doesn't have shitbora so it's already superior to that shitty fanfic demake

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Why does Maribel always smell absolutely horrible? What's going on?

Does Veronica smell like a child?

Is the dq dai game worth it? I haven't watched the anime btw

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>>558221836
i find it really fun but i did watch the anime. if its on sale its worth it but im not sure you will like it if you are not already attached to the charcters.

>>558218704
she stinks

>>558218704
She wants to learn Magic Burst but has to turn into smelly monsters to do it.

>>558221836
>dai game
>suddenly remember this Dai game I played as a little kid in the mid2000s, made with RPG Maker
>site is still live

neat

https://www.oocities.org/tokyo/fuji/2595/projects_rpg.html

>>558221836
Dai is more of a Dragon Ball than a Dragon Quest. Personally, I don't even think it's a good Dragon Ball. The only thing really Dragon Quest about it is the spell/skill names.

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So if I have a 3ds and a switch 2 i can play all the dragon quest games? Why would anyone have any other console!!!

>>558236989
because you can’t legally play the best versions and even illegally you can’t really either. the best version of 8 is the original, 3ds content feels awkward and shoed in, the new party members just don’t fit at all and it looks way worse. 7 ps1 is also still the best version of that game even if the translation sucks and ps1 emulation is shotty at best on 3ds, new 3ds probably runs it better

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>dragon ball xenoverse 3 before dragon quest 12

For me, it's Rosalind.

Even though I just finished it about a week ago, I already want to play PS1 DQ7 again from the top. Am I nuts?

>>558243257
You're nuts if you actually get through the whole thing.

>>558243335
I'm a persistent nutso, then.

>>558243257
If you do, do me a favor and see if you can complete immigrant town while Kiefer is still with you.

>>558243854
Pretty sure you can't complete the town until Disc 2 regardless.

>>558242839
Will we ever get another ginger mage?
It has been a while.

>>558243959
Thats what I thought, but I was seeing stuff suggesting otherwise when looking up guides.

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>>558244438
Maybe in 12 or DQW 3

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There's enough Jess to last us for a while yet.

Chubby Jessica sexo

>kafrizzle, the strongest fire spell, traditionally has a 10~12 MP cost
>DQ9 increases the cost to 45 MP, DQ11 to 52 MP
So that's why a 30 MP skill feels so expensive in DQ8. It's not just Yangus having low MP, this thing has been inflating since then.