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>Reshowing of the Metaphor Orchestra Concert set for June 2026
>Metaphor: ReFantazio won Game of the Year 2025 from the Japan Game Awards
>The manga adaptation of Metaphor: ReFantazio will be published monthly in Shueisha's V Jump magazine, with an anime reportedly in the works.
>Resources and useful links
https://rentry.co/MetaphorRefantaziovg
https://rentry.co/scenicvista
>Metaphor Manga (Chapter releases on the 19th of every month)
https://mangaplus.shueisha.co.jp/viewer/1023739
>How to Make an RPG With Katsura Hashino - Metaphor: ReFantazio (ENG)
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1EivtGe8xwfWrk7TXZbRqTgXmWk_iSn TW
>Metaphor Digital Artbook
https://mega.nz/file/VisTTLhB#G4epdYn-DfoS9QnkDccPaverj_LjwY35_VpCAsj8 kTc
>Metaphor: ReFantazio Special Soundtrack
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kT8go1ScWljmvHOjpzywgsnV 1fI036Ovg
>MetaphorFix (adds proper ultrawide, things, etc.)
https://github.com/Lyall/MetaphorFix/releases
>A Metaphor in Fantasy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-eFkMJzc6ow
>Metaphor Orchestra Concert
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TwXSEndmlj4
>Metaphor Live Reading Event
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8sLzctQQ9h8
Common Questions
>"How should I build my MC?"
Realistically anything works, you won't brick yourself even on Hard or Regicide. Common consensus is a hybrid STR/MAG/AGI is best.
>"What is the best team comp?"
Just about everything works, do whatever you like the most and it'll work on any difficulty.
>"How should I manage my time?"
There's more than enough time in the game to 100%, do whatever you'd like.
>"Which royal virtues should I focus on?"
Prioritize eloquence and tolerance and avoid courage boosts.
>Royal Slash scales based on the higher of your STR or MAG.
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Coming soon to Meta TV, Metaphorb Adventures.
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Zorba go easy on the Lord's mascara
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>>557954549
>retard trying to talk about shit he doesn't know about again
when will you learn? merch companies usually release something once and then never again
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It seems that the last time algernon made some cocorots was in 2024 for blue lock, and 2023 for jjk and csm but they're not as cute as the original run orbs from 2018-2020. They do still make them, but I guess it depends. They never re-ran the P5 orbs despite how popular they were though
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Zorba will get his time to shine and won't be constantly made fun of like Glodel, I'm fine with waiting
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>>557963146
that can be arranged
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>in a period of record studio layoffs SEGA gave the guy they had running Atlus total control of all their single player game output
I still don't know if this is a good or a bad thing yet, it's not a good thing for their marketing department at any rate because they still can't announce a fucking video game that's even remotely close to completion
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tiny little crumbs of unused content, first not the faintest idea what it would've been used for but they were trying to keep track of the value of a morale gauge in their big list of global counts. The 【変更予定】is a label they use pretty consistently in this file for things they were going to change or scrap
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Some of the comments left on the counts in here are very apparent holdovers from P5. For example 162 is supposed to be a coin possession count for D06, which in Metaphor is Martira, but the comment says "Casino Dungeon" and Sae's Palace was the 6th dungeon in P5. This is the first time we've had access to commented enumerations for global counts, bitflags, etc. in an Atlus game before but it looks like they've been using these naming conventions since at least P5.
The second one here is cool and I hope it actually works, supposedly it keeps track of all damage taken.
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Some other very obvious P5 ones in here just by looking at the enumeration, but this is also where they keep track of metrics for unlocking trophies (and we always knew this but the Atlus team is very Playstation brained and they do say trophy here). This is cool because I can read from this count wherever I want and for example I can change someone's moveset based on how much you've spammed Merchant skills during the game.
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love_______________________________with fidelio!_________________________________
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Figuring out how to manipulate the weather so you get bad weather in any dungeon including where normally impossible. For some ungodly reason the game crashes when you go into a magla hollow having set the weather yourself. It also didn't work that well on Zorba's boss fight but I might be able to fix that by messing with some encounter flags. Overall a huge pain in the ass
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>>557988126
Fortunately only seems to be a problem in the cathedral itself, no crashes anywhere else. Just have to figure out why boss fights will skip the effect.
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Louis' final boss arena in broad daylight
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>>557990575
I'll be honest I don't remember seeing these at all, but there's calcified remains of giant corpses on both sides of the floating rock
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>>557990737
Also finally got the opera house theater. None of the seats have collision but the walls, the floor and the stage all does. Was still possible to get myself stuck in a wall though.
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The only seat in the entire house that's well lit is Louis'
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the roof is leaking
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roger was based and his epilogue dialogue is probably the most lucid one
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>>558030626
No problem.
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zorba and eupha sex
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z534BbV3yt4
its fwm (fuck with me) friday
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reactivity about trials of the dragon is nice
is there anything about the ng+ dragon?
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How can someone die to this? Mf literally farts at you
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Which one of them is DiCaprio
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>>558079208
The events of where the royal magic gets disabled so candidates can now kill each other and Rella takes Forden's place as a Sanctist candidate last exactly one day, with no dungeon, one boss fight, and then empty game days until Louis tells you to fuck his shit up.
So this translates as a cope that there must be additional content that was scrapped because there's no way that entire section lasts exactly unironically 1 day
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It just feels like cope to me desu, game was supposed to be way shorter and the calendar dynamic wasn't even thought about it til later dev cycle. To me, a bunch of the present game subsystems were stapled later due to them wanting to fish the personnal audiences
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>>558080923
i wish you could save louis
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>>558087272
It's terrible, they make you play as a shark. No one wants to be a shark.
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What's your favorite 3+ hour video essay analyzing how Metaphor is very deep and good-good?
I finished the game a year ago and I already forgot almost everything that happened, except that the setting is a bad rip off of Shinsekai Yori.
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I will make him my king consort and nobody will stop me
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Louis has remarkably little to say about dragons if he says anything about them at all
You'd kind of think he would be more interested in world ending bioorganisms left behind by humanity that the academy studied at length and the royal scepter was built to help contain, but at the same time the reason why he's doing what he's doing is because his solution is way more controllable than how humans got created in the first place
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>>558126841
>ceo demon king serial killer
louis really is designed as fujobait eh
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mimimiiiiii
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>>558131715
>ceo demon king serial killer
>8koenji art
when will this louis slander end
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It is specially important
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>>558030328
I still haven't played Expedition and I am glad I didn't. It screams "astroturfed AI slop" to me. I can tell it won't be remembered by anyone because it has almost 0 pornographic animations of its female characters. Metaphor doesn't have any sexy girls (expect Gallica) and somehow it still has more hentai than French shyte. This is how I intuitively determined Expeditions must be astroturfed.
t. INTP king
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>and somehow it still has more hentai than French shyte
I don't like E33 but this is wrong because most metaphor porn art is all AI slop. Go try to find anything and it's all sloppa.
Metaphor models are way uglier than Persona ones so nobody does SFM porn with them either
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>Metaphor doesn't have any sexy girls (expect Gallica)
How is it like to live in such a lie ?
I would sex all Metaphor girls including Lina. Maybe they are not lewd enough for you but how can you say they are not sexy ? Just look at Hulk's hips, look at Rella's legs, look at Junah hair and waist and her slim and slender body. Even Eupha is cute although wife coded.
I won't even mention Brigitta who is my fertility godess.
Unfortunately I have to admit that there is much less fan arts than I would like.
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>nothing to say about catherina
You are right. That was my mistake.
I love her cheerful personality, sexy belly and sweet lips. She must be so much fun in bed. Just look at her armored top, unzipped boot, hotpants and metal thongs. She is so flirtatious.
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But what if she stuck to her guns and slaughtered the rich
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cute gal
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I forgot how triggering this is to some people
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Here's mine
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handholding with bro
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>>558207369
why did they make gallica so cute
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the faggots spoiled fidelio dying day 0 on the very first trailer of the game, and he's not on the cover art and the steam achievements/cards spoil that basilio joins. they're retarded and trying to keep a goro 2.0 secrecy even though basilio isn't that meaningful of a spoiler
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sorry you are right IS
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no corpse, no death confirmed. See you in the re-release
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Do you think Metaphors wouldn't be so unpopular with womyn if you could customize your main character's gender expression? I mean you can't date anyone anyway, so why not let you pick at least body type A or body type B?
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Who should I pick, chat?
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He's so happy to be there
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>>558267012
gallica
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more fucking snow
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>>558299843
You called?
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>>558308971
Have you ever known a music person to not be a leftist
also I don't think too many people will disagree with that anyway, most zoomers and late millenials only know american left propaganda but most people that actually know what fascism is like could compare him with Italian fascism pretty easily
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Mandatory Neuras bullying session
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NTA, but the issue is that it became a buzzword, it was used so often it lost it's meaning, just like Pepes and Keks
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Coolest unique location yet.
Some things still fall weirdly though. The late king was supposed to be this giga nigga who united the continent, but from what we hear from him, he seems such a meek useless goober
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Kinda interesting how Strohl shaped up to be your tactician/second in command, thought he would be just your average persona bro that gets completely outshined when new toys come in. I dig that they took a different approach when picking each gimmick for the party members, was really expecting him to be Yusuke 2 ans Hulkerberg to be a more goofier and gloomier Mitsuru, glad I stand wrong.
He kinds feels like my co-protagonist, hella nics
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Also why are they doing the virgin walk..
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Why so many shitty music spamming this thread ?
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party is so fucking stupid
they were on the verge of letting the ultimate evil of establishment to get away with everything
and even after louis miraculously survived and did all the heavy lifting, they still stick to "maybe we should improve things somewhat"
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I mean, til now Louis been an ass, he tried to kill everyone at Grand Trad, killed everyone at Strohl place, tried to get US killed indirectly through Klingugugu scheme, his goons roobed our carriage and he said he would sat bomb Eupha village.
Prince or no prince, I would want him dead too. Forden will also get his serving, but he didn't try to kill me through his gay notvampire lover
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How come the party is completely fine with forden pushing systematic racism on to people, diddle little paripus boys for experimentation and keep other religions demonized but Louis is the ultimate evil just because he (supposedly) killed the Prince? They never seem to be bothered by what he does at all like it's not their problem, only Louis is
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RetardGAWD.
They hate the system and dislike the church (You would notice that if didn't fell asleep during Brilehaven), but they don't hate him or the system that far because they don't know how deep the rabbit hole goes. Junah specifically goes out to talk with Rella because she doesn't know what sort of man he is. His PR is THAT good
Til the big reveal, he's just a corrupt bureaucrat, not a satanic mustari fetus muncher.
Louis on the other hand, openly antagonize everyone, Eupha plainly state that she can only find darkness on his heart, he's loony, while Forden is just feels like a jerk. If Louis didn't came back and fucked everything up, the party could just do what they were doing and Will could safely win the race for the prince, specially after killing the state enemy number one
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Even more than that, most people see Forden as a true moderate and attribute almost everything that they don't like to the state rather than the state religion. Only the upper echelon understood at all that Forden was inacting his own policy through More's authority, it's why so many people want him to be king in the first place and why Louis is the only one actively working against him, because he's one of the only ones that know.
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Atlus didn't have the balls to have our party actually dirty their hands and even had to hammer again in that Louis is evil after all that happened at the opera. I wish it was actually more morally grey than it is.
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But what about the One Formula?
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Tf they are doing there?
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Tf, he's back? And even gayer now?
What I don't get it how this wreck of a person managed to be a high ranking sanctist church goober, what with all the hybrid racism and all that
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Evil Haru..
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Kino..
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Is just me or Berg and Strohl weapons turned gold out of sudden?
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Hella feathery..
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Goobers will see this and say "BUT THE CHURCH, THE CHURCH".
Louie boy is literally a (dumb) SMT chaos rep
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He looks like a sad squidward.
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NYOOOOoo
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TEN DAYS? I only have TEN days? But Basilio link isn't even unlocked yet..
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>>558426552
reveals are just getting started
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>>558472873
Being a woman wouldn't really change that much about him or how we feel about him.
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>>558473081
You aren't wrong, but...
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>>558473081
there would be way less kino art by fujos, so I'm happy it didn't come to this
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>>558481237
Bro, it's anime.
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>>558481452
Bro, it's anime.
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No, it's because whenever I post in Metaphor, I get a warm feeling that I just interrupted a "conversation" - aka two people posting. I am always the third poster active in the thread, because without me, there are just two posters. Simple as.
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>>558482023
Why did they portray Satan as a woman?
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Samefag >>558472120
I'm sorry, that was mean. I don't know what came over me. I feel so ashamed.
I sincerely apologize.
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He's intersex actually. He has a penis in the manga. Supposed to represent how satan/lucifer is beautiful because how he mirrors human beauty yadda yadda.
He's also him and the other versions of him at the same time, it's weird. Devilman Lady
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https://youtu.be/heHWE89k220?si=qGYnLjtEbor1UE5n
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Stats.
Strohl, Hulker, Basilio and Heismay suck as mages
Heismay and Junah have the highest Agi growths, so they would often go first, hella nice for certain strats like synthesis weakness exploits turn 1 with Knight or Magic Dancer
Basilio is a crit god, Eupha has the highest mag growth.
Most of that can be chalked with grinding, I guess
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Right when you get them they can use their archetype earlier than you can kind of like how P5 gated baton pass except way better, and also the later characters are way more specialized stats compared to the original group and your only extremely Ma friendly characters come later
If strohl was built like basilio he would be the strongest STR character ever
And then of course there's the rank 8 rewards
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>>558490018
We see enough of them in anime. They aren't common, but they aren't exactly rare, especially among villainesses.
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>>558507669
just off the top, there's pic related
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>>558506298
about gallica
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>>558507669
Don't make me post her
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>>558506298
Bunch of series generals exist, cult following and all.
It's my first time going through the game, having a space to share about it is fun.
/haniho/ still alive and kicking should be the outlier, since Alicesoft is fucking dead
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>>558508606
Fem Louis would never be caught dead uttering a line as embarassing as picrel.
Edelgard has no convictions, just obsessions.
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>>558567096
we literally have a confirmed bot posting and like more than half the thread's posts literally have nothing to do with metaphor. /meta/ is just glorified /atgg/ - atlus games general and atlus bitching general
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>>558571160
it does, you just don't really see the consequences
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Fucking pussies. Will would honestly make a shitty ruler. Strohl would have made more sense honestly as a ruler.
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>>558575760
You'd have to spend a good chunk of change on assets to do something like that and Hashino wasn't given the kitchen sink to make the game with, don't think it has anything to do with laziness
Metaphor already has the best bad endings of the hashino games made entirely out of assets used in other parts of the game
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>>558565179
>favourite game/character does something stupid
>MUH TREEHOUSE REEE
Pathetic https://youtu.be/0QnYczc7hHc?si=FDVDPf2Y4q27K23x&t=1996
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>>558577870
it's his own fault I'd say when the fuck did they even start to make he game seriously. The first teaser was 2016 and then they proceeded to just invest in pre-production till god knows when. They even used the old P5 engine so not like a new engine is an excuse. Sega must have shown a lot of goodwill to let them take time but even their patience must run dry and they told him to hurry up like he mentioned in that one interview book.
Since it was a success now they might give more budget but they need to be faster in deciding what they want to do.
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>when the fuck did they even start to make he game seriously.
According to his personal book, it was somewhere around 2018-2020. I don't think that the coof affected the development that much but he does say that it did make things very difficult. They didn't even have a title for the game until late 2022.
If a behind the scenes development video ever came out, it'd show how fucking messy Metaphor's development was from the conception of Re:Fantasy to what we have today. There's probably tons of scrapped content and scrapped concepts all the way back to Re:Fantasy.
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>louis in red
Hot, it suits him.
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anything but work on the sequel
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>>558579491
Doubt, they started in 2019 and in the same interview collection it was mentioned that they used pretty much everything that made it far enough along to have assets made for it
Zoomers love talking about this shit for some reason
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Those standees in specific have always been present at their ebten store and many other storefronts like animate, they're not exclusive to the exhibition. They were in fact, released all the way from TGS 2024.
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Is just me or the king rock started crying after Louis went and fucked the competition?
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Only doll sex is allowed
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He doesn't even look like an ikemen, why tf girls like him? He had that Habsburg face
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You can do better
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China ruined foot fetishism for the rest of the world by censoring nearly everything else and pigeonholing their gachahead bug teenagers into a single fetish
genocide all of them Louis is right
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I had a weird dream where I was playing the Re-Release of Meta, and bumped into a (possible) missable event where you get to know that Hulker and Gloddel (Now recruitable) are having an affair.
When confronted about it, she says it just happened. She fell with him because she didn't fall with you or Strohl.
Wonder how the fanbase would react to Atlus pulling this one
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>>558687446
You've read too many cuckposts before bed but honestly realistically, I could see Hulk knowing him beforehand (they should be around the same age, should've seen him in the army same time as Zorba was around) so while I don't think they'd ever have a relationship, she probably had to know him at some point.
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Squidward is back! I honestly didn't expect the game would be so carefree during the endgame section, specially after the setup prior, people are supposed to be rioting and everyone thinks you are a human, but you can casually walk around Gran Trad and even give speeches without get mob lynched, what gives?
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who's the makoto of metaphor
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The world is burning outside, and you can safely bum around for 30 days shopping with Eupha, dunno, it just feels weird, as if the final confrontation should have happened later. What I am experiencing doesn't fit what is being told to me
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>horrifically unjustly abused by an authority figure who dies a dog's death
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Nah the mechanic is fine, a lot better than p5's bad weather stuff too
By endgame the only thing is that it's very easy to buy 20 fish for edeni to pleasure himself with. Should've made eupha's cooking the requirement to turn it off at all, but at the same time it's also a mechanic focused around whether or not you want to take the risk and go into a new dungeon with weakness + crits turned off and not something the game is trying to force you to deal with.
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god is real and i feel his love. happy friday to all those who celebrate
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lMSpQ-6TblY
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I had a dream today where a bunch of people I actually knew + me got trapped in a Gilligan's island situation by Louis where we were all shrunken down, Zorba was also there and we were getting attacked by dragons
Will was also there though he didn't do too much at first and Louis tried to start a new religion and eventually fighting started
It ended when Berg rescued us from the outside in a gauntlet runner after discovering the entire island was a rock suspended in the mountains and crushing Louis and Zorba. Everyone got returned to normal size and Will and Berg made out
My brain rationalized all of this as a metaphor movie I was watching a recording of and I went to shitpost on /meta/ about berg being the canon romance and then I woke up
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I had a dream where there was a thai/chinese fujo from /thlg/ coming to post like 10 posts per minute and being generally very loud and very obnoxious with no thread/site ettiquette whatsoever. Nobody liked her and everyone told her to fuck off but still kept posting anyway and the thread reached bump limit in less than 30 minutes and became the new resident avatarfag. I didn't like her either but I gave her a pass because she likedruimoa.
But of course, I wake up and there's no such fujo. Thread is still dead and I remain alone, with all my comissions still in progress...
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now you're obliged to stay with us
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What do you mean by that? Metaphor did leak pre-release if that's what you're saying, just that nobody really cared enough to go deep into it. The demo had all of the game files in it's first version and they could be datamined. The "plot summary" sections were being posted on /pg/ which had the out of context screenshot of Shibuya.
The bust sprites also got datamined and it showed the white haired MC too.
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Granted maybe a third of this post is true at best. The only thing anyone could see from the demo without the modders updating all their tools were the memorandum entries and most of the game's files were missing
There's also three different versions of the story about the game being fully piratable through the demo if you copied over all the missing files and none of them are entirely true
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You could play past the cutoff point of the demo even if you couldn't play the whole thing to completion which is why they did it. They did the same thing with the P3R demo also, but neither cases were like the Yakuza 6 playstation demo where not a single file was scrubbed, nor do you hear about people doing pirate playthroughs of either game much or at all for this reason. For Metaphor I've heard:
>All the files were there and you just had to edit one script to make it work
Which was immediately obvious to me on day 0 just looking at how many chapters the cutscenes were broken up into and how much of the script was missing for all of them
>no actually they took the missing code from the retail exe with denuvo and put it in the demo exe without denuvo to make it playable
Which didn't happen and doesn't make much sense if you think about it for a few seconds, I fucking wish this was true though because it would make documenting what all the game functions actually do much much easier
>no no what really happened was after the demo exe got denuvo added it was all based off of the retail exe so you could play the rest of the game now if you had the retail files
At various points I did try out a bit of this myself but got frequent crashes trying to use the gauntlet runner, and loading up event battles because I knew how much hardcoded bullshit goes into the bosses and enemies some didn't behave properly, some froze mid fight, a few worked just fine though
Someone got very mad at me for telling them the game wasn't really playable from start to finish and claimed they did it themselves but you can probably chalk most of these stories to upset fans of other franchises
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i mean sure, he has pale skin and straight hair in-game, but seeing him as white just makes it seem off. i'm thinking maybe lightskin black to match his brother? fits the narrative of the game more too
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bringing back a /pg/ classic
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While doing a conversion for a p5 model I haven't shown yet I think I also figured out why I wasn't able to get Loki to work as an archetype awhile ago so I should be able go to back and revisit that also
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materials look like like they will need a little work on this one but probably one of the easiest ports from another game I've done so far
going back through a lot of the old P5 stuff I did I'm definitely noticing a lot of the old dumb shit I used to do in blender. I still do dumb shit but I still kind of remember when I was so new at it I could barely rig a stupid hat onto someone
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I was talking to some coworkers the other day who are both big JRPG fans and they said that neither of them has played Metaphor because they both got annoyed by Atlus re-releasing games with extra content at full price and so they were holding off until the "final" version came out. I guess people really are doing that.
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Introducing Doctor Charadrius. Rumors say he healed a thousand victims of the bog with such extreme measures that he must wear the mask to live, but he can't remember the names or faces of any of them.
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Btw I am almost ready to talk about what all this random shit is about, I have one more model to work on before that
What I'm working on will most likely be a mod for the rerelease by the time it's done but I still plan to pit out more smaller things in the meantime.
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/meta/ being ultra slow on the weekends has always been interesting to me since most generals are the other way around, but it also speaks to how the age group for the game skews older since shitposting during work hours is more likely than taking up that time on the weekend
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who is "you", are you off your meds again?
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