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Battlefield 6 Intel:
>Weapon Stats
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/0/d/1oHVJQPfkTGIjdqnuDhNrD16GET NQCWa0aofBQOtjg9w/htmlview
Battlefield News:
>Latest Blog Post
https://x.com/BattlefieldComm/status/2021313449754755403
>Latest Patch Notes
https://www.ea.com/games/battlefield/battlefield-6/news/battlefield-6- game-update-1-1-3-6
>Updates to Portal Soon™
https://www.pcgamer.com/games/fps/were-not-doing-a-good-enough-job-wit h-portal-right-now-battlefield-6-de v-says-players-are-making-fantastic -creations-that-nobody-is-seeing-be cause-of-a-technical-issue/
>Battlefield 6 Portal XP Nerfed
https://www.windowscentral.com/gaming/dice-nukes-battlefield-6-portal- xp
>DICE Acknowledges Hit Registration Issues
https://www.pcgamer.com/games/fps/its-not-just-you-hit-registration-is -bugged-in-battlefield-6-and-dice-i s-working-on-it/
>Cronus Zen Software Users Banned
https://www.gamesradar.com/games/battlefield/battlefield-6-fans-cheer- as-popular-cheat-maker-tells-users- to-pause-for-now-following-a-swift- banning-spree-from-ea-they-deserve- zero-second-chances/
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>Battlefield 6 devs promise a “package of vehicle improvements” as they admit many are just “death traps” most of the time
>they specifically mention light transport jeeps
those are supposed to be deathtraps. right now they're too vulnerable to small arms fire but they're fast transport, DICE doesnt need to make them rolling fortresses.
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>>558399154
they should bring back levolutions desu
imagine taking down the bridge on manhattan bridge
>>558402401
I hardly ever see that in bf6, I saw it (and did it) all the time in 4 though.
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>>558401205
Have they even fixed all the broken tank/IFV upgrades yet? I haven't bothered switching off reinforced plating but I can tell its drawback is still broken so I assume they haven't fixed the rest either.
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>>558401205
They don't need to be more armored, they need a tradeoff for being lightly armored. Light jeeps should have the option to take a minigun, a grenade launcher, or even a TOW missile on them. Even solo with someone seat swapping would make them useful if you could use them as a TOW sniper and drive them to weird flanks
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c4 sucks so much ass (non existent blast radius) and light transports have such low hp its not worth doing. 2 people spraying at a jeep with an AR / LMG will completely and totally destroy it even if they dont hit a single shot on anyone inside of it.
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they need to be less vulnerable to small arms (as in the vehicle, not the crew). its actually a joke how squishy they are, but i dont think they need to be tankier vs tank rounds or RPGs. minigun would be pretty cool to have as an upgrade on it, grenade launchers would need a rework because right now they suck completely and total dicks as far as turret options goes.
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>>558404460
Looking on the internet it seems the vehicle that the Glider/Vector based on can equip either a 40mm automatic grenade launcher or a remote control 30mm autocannon as seen in picrel Imagine anti personnel shells for the 30mm
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>>558406196
If you're going for people with the jeep you're better off running them over, and if you're going for tanks with the jeep you're better off just creeping up and throwing the c4 on the tank itself. Unless the tank has a pocket engie or the fastest turret gunner in the west, or if you get close enough that the driver can see you behind him in the third-person camera, the driver's probably fucked.
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>>557994660
I don't know why modern military games haven't adopted this style of parallel modern-fiction storytelling yet. It's clear that real world politics are too fucked to be gamified in interesting ways, and for a series that is built around portraying large scale conventional warfare it's the only option
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what race is this
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>fastest turret gunner
They don't need to be fast, they just need the driver to not be an idiot. If they're taking countermeasures like they should then the gunner gets a DISARM C4 prompt on his screen the moment you throw the first one so they're basically guaranteed shut down at least one of your packs. And since you need all four C4 to kill a tank driven by someone competent that means you lost your kill.
I will grant you that most people who play this game are morons so you can still get a lot of kills on incompetent tankers though. There are many of them.
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>they should then the gunner gets a DISARM C4 prompt on his screen
I guess I've been lucky the handful of times I've done it. It might also have to do with the fact that I usually hunt tanks on Mirak, where half of them just tard around in the fields.
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>>558409361
Ace Combat is proof that you could use a parallel world for modern military stories without offending anyone. Also, it handwaves outdated/experimental weapons to be commonly used in the military, like imagine a BF game set in a parallel world where "Not USA" still uses M48 Patton tanks alongside their M1 Abrams, and their infantry uses G11s and XM29 OICWs against the "Not Soviet Union that hasn't collapsed in this world," where they got the prototype AK-12 into mass production and the T-14 Armata's flaws fixed, but they also got the good old classic wooden AK-47 and T-55s in service. Pic related as Osea which is the America parallel still fly the F-14 tomcat even though their enemies are now flying SU-57
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Yeah, most people don't know what they're doing. The most obvious example is all the tanks/IFVs running gunner grenade launcher outside the very very few times that's appropriate, but the other upgrades are usually just as bad. It's just harder to notice when someone is running optimized handling or emergency repair or whatever.
Just in case anyone reading this needs to be told, please take countermeasures for your gunner. It's way more useful than smoke wall, and it directly benefits you too since it auto spots mines whenever you're near them. It's a gunner upgrade but it works for the driver too. Make your life easier, take it.
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>>558411224
i honestly thought DICE was doing that with BFVs trailer: a steampunk WW2 game with parallel faction equivalents like youjo senki. unified states, russy federation, the empire, commonwealth etc. then i found out that crippled robot women were supposed to be taken seriously as a historic game and lost all interest.
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i still dont know why niggers run IFVs with the absolute worst troll loadout imaginable: GL turret, canister rounds, and rocket secondary. you cant fight ANYTHING with it at all and i've jumped int multiple IFVs with that exact loadout. always some console retard too driving it.
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can really feel they fired the air vehicle guy after bf1
they all handle like ass in bf6
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>>558411889
emergency repair>active defense, also on IFV field maint>plates, emergency repair helps a lot with the simple fact when you have combat engi lvl 3 you self repair but you need to out of critical and SOME retarded subhuman will steal your shit the moment you get out to get into threshold, and the rpg/mines stun lock you non stop+fast cooldown
And field maint on IFV simply because the moment you run out of ammo not a single nigger witll resupply you with a create and there's 0 resupply stations on escalation.
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battlefield can never be good as long as crossplay between PC and consoles exists. DICE will always have to balance around the lowest common denominator, aka subhuman console niggers. thats why battlefield moments that were rare are all incredibly common now: they need to be easy so console players dont get left out.
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I've started ignoring the A, D and F flags on Contaminated, at last retards figured out that it is possible to snipe from the hill over C and it makes the whole low ground area unplayable. Bunkers and C are fun though.
Escalation sucks twice as much because faggots snipe from their uncaps in addition to that hill. The game is doomed, bring metro back now.
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BF1 is a fucking masterpiece
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>>558425763
From a visual standpoint, it is indeed
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Hello?
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>>558438137
I doubt it. Gauntlet has videos showing you exactly what to do even if you somehow can't read and people still can't figure it out.
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>>558439143
maybe if you forced them to actually play the round instead of the little movie in the beginning. they'd have to do the objective in order to move on. like force them to do the tutorial step by step or your ass is stuck in limbo.
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i dont understand how BF6 looks worse than this and runs like shit compared to it
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M60. It has bad recoil per individual shot but it shoots so slowly it's pretty controllable. And since it's 7.62x51 and uses the rifle damage model that means it does good damage no matter the range so it still kills reasonably fast despite the slow shooting. Also you get to feel superior because nobody else uses it. The only problem is it takes too long to get the 50 round belt, which is a big upgrade so you want it.
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>>558443273
See >>558060451
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>>558446241
It's funny because you can tell their logic was "we need an ammo penalty because otherwise someone could use two guns in the same range bracket and have double ammo!", without figuring out that nobody would ever fucking do that. Instead people want a long range and a short range gun for versatility, and that means that one of them runs out of ammo instantly. And it wouldn't be an issue even if assault did have double ammo because support has infinite and it's not like you're going to beat that.
These devs are so fucking stupid, how are they so fucking stupid? How is it possible?
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but I run out on both main gun and my saiga
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>>558416702
bc2 had battlefield moments it just wasn't rendezook shit on console. Trying to merge 'big sandbox' pc gameplay with 'mid size but immersive meatgrinders' of the bc series is where battlefield went wrong
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why doesnt battlefield have assault / defend scenarios like unreal tournament? its obvious dice wants to push a narrative story between pax armata and nato, but they leave that entirely to trailers instead of putting that in actual gameplay itself.
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>>558457557
>Assault mode
Holy shit remind me there was this one Assault map that took place in Australia where the attackers must destroy Australian Beer Industry
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>>558458275
glad i cheesed it as hard as i did but at the same time because suppressors are so OP basically all my of my guns builds are almost identical. i really wish DICE got rid of self spotting, its a retarded mechanic.
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>>558224830
I want the '70s version
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>>558472863
>a million hours played
>support as profile char
>592 revives
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>piece of shit patch comes out
>breaks vehicle sensitivity settings even more
>want to try and set them up again in peace so that i can at least somewhat play with my friends when they pester me to play this garbage
>portal experiences are broken and dont spawn anything
>portal servers dont work either because theyre phantom servers
What a massive piece of shit, every time I launch this retarded garbage I'm amazed how fucked it is.
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It's done.
Fuck the battlepass, fuck the weeklies, fuck dice, fuck this shit rugpull game, I'm never playing it again.
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>>558477629
don't using paypal since wikileaks happening here.
bestell einfach auf rechnung, brudi. 14 tage widerrufsrecht ohne begründung hier für online einkäufe. weder 5.11 noch ea können den code zurückrufen sobald er raus ist - zumindest ist das der bisherige eindruck - , also freie skins für dich.
reporte den erfolg zurück ganz nebenbei
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>there are two vehicle mouse aim sensitivity sliders in the settings and they both adjust each other but one of them always displays half the number of the other one
why
>the zoom sensitivity coefficient slider seems to do nothing at all
why
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>>558457557
They shoot themselves in the foot with 2042 in many ways the whole no-pat bullshit and operators/heroes thingy. BF4 gave us a 2142 tease but now we are forced to go through 2042 timeline. USA vs RU - CN > NATO vs PAX > NATO disbands and PAX somehow disappear >hurr durr USA vs RU conflict in 2042 > EU vs PAC
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SAAR DO NOT REDEEM
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This fucking trash never ceases to amaze me. You can't have proper mouse sensitivity in tanks anymore. If you set your 3rd person sensitivity the way you like it then 1st person sensitivity will be way too slow. If you set it up just right for 1st person then 3rd person will be way too fucking sensitive. Unfuckingbelievable.
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>>558488993
Before this fucknugget patch I managed to have it somewhat correct because there were separate sensitivities depending on if you zoomed in from 1st person or 3rd person. Now it's "fixed" so you can't do that anymore.
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Well of course it is. I completely forgot those niggers changed map behavior when driving a vehicle so you can imagine my confusion when I stopped moved in my Abrams when I opened the map.
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>>558487487
First person camera inside tank was always super low, since release. You have to go into first person to aim, by pressing right click, and stay in 3rd person the rest of the time.
That's what I do anyways. Unless they changed something... I haven't driven anything this season yet lol.
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>>558494784
>You have to go into first person to aim, by pressing right click, and stay in 3rd person the rest of the time.
They fucked that in the latest patch
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this is fine
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>vehicle kills as a squad
>just play normally while my tank/chopperkeks grind my BP for me
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>it's yet another episode of hard af concept art but dogshit in game implementation
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What am I supposed to do with this, give tanks a speeding ticket?
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Imagine my complete lack of surprise when literally every little bird pilot I've met has been a self-aggrandising cunt. Just like every other fucking game that tiny piece of shit is in.
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>>558472863
for some reason i see the jeep badge and the KDA and i just assume youre just plowing into those poor fuckers the entire time
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>>558508121
Yeah, where's my AUG? He has an AUG but I don't get one. How is that fair?
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>last BF was BF3
>didn't buy any more after that because every BF was buggy DLC bullshit
>BF6 was relatively polished so decide to give it a try again
>get tricked again
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Ah yes BT he went full on sperg since CoD was in the gutter and when the CoD killers like Xdefiant and BF6 failed he went full on schizo also I heard he a simp spenting his money on onlyfans and now lives in a van because he broke
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i boughted
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>>558514717
bf4 was good 3 months after launch. bf1 was great. bf5 was crazy underrated and really fun and had tons of polish that people ignored.
bf6 has an ok underlying game but the maps are bad and it has no soul. bf6 may be the only bf game I've ever bought where I still regret buying it after hundreds of hours.
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I have come to the conclusion after a week that Contaminated really is the best map in the game and its not even close. That said I have issues with the 1st sector.
The 1st sector is too biased to the defenders. One, they can see all the way out to the attackers base. Two, they have too many hiding spots that easily fucks over attackers. And last, well it's honestly attackers fault for this. But I believe attackers should not be sniping in the 1st sector. It's a trap done by Dice.
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>But I believe attackers should not be sniping in the 1st sector. It's a trap done by Dice.
anon, half the team sitting in the back of the map jerking themselves off trying to be l33t MLG snipers and contributing absolutely fucking nothing to the team is a time honoured feature of the battlefield franchise.
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I'm so scared I'll break my streak.
Maybe I should just never play the game again.
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can't believe this game is dead
arc raiders is dead
and I had to move on to deadlock to find a good shooter
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>>558534330
I wish I had friends so I didn't have to play with random shitters.
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>>558517328
see >>558514772 >>558533920
there are absolute neanderthals who will absolutely take uninformative slop like this seriously just to confirm their biases. I stopped watching when the tard said they have 4 studios working on this game. If you're knowledgeable about how modern AAA studios work you already know majority of the teams/studios are already working on the next game. there is no point in me trying to explain why it is the way it is because guess what none of these tards actually care and would still shit on the hot new thing. if bf3 got remastered these faggots would literally still seethe about one thing or another.
inb4 shill. smd. game has massive problems but its not the rug pull these faggots so desperately want it to be.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhG-vLZrb-g&t=145s
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Just noticed you don't need PS plus or I'm guessing Xbox live either, to play redsec. Fuck me, if they can't get decent numbers for a game that is entirely free to play, then just pull the plug already, holy shit.
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>>558541909
I don't think any free to play game needs paid online. They make an exemption for them.
Though yeah it's sad to consider that the Battlefield numbers have dropped that hard even with a free to play mode propping them up.
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>>558542043
Reminder that EA was willing to release BF6 in early 2026 before GTA6 got delayed
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>>558542076
I think they'll take the redsec map and put chunks of it into the main game if they get desperate. BR is shit and doesn't work in BF, Gauntlet is okay so maybe they'll keep that.
I will die on this hill, but I think the redsec map is easily the best in the game (even split apart) and it's a shame it's basically locked away in redsec.
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>>558500965
No Warthogs in the game either..
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>>558542871
>because people leave as soon as they die.
What are they supposed to do? Spectate till the end of the round? How would that increase player numbers?
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>REROLL FAILED - UNKNOWN ERROR
g...good to know
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>>558508121
King skin when?
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>hmm I would like a X-power optic on this gun
>of the three of the X-power optics available the earliest one unlocks at rank thirty-fucking-two
>meanwhile you'll have all three Y-power optics by rank fifteen
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>bf4 was good 3 months after launch.
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>>558544040
I'm a boomer used to instant respawns in UT or Quake. I don't wanna sit around and do nothing for ages when I'm playing a game. If anything, zoomer love waiting so they can start browsing tiktok or whatever in the meantime.
Yes, I know CS has long ass respawns. I never liked CS for this reason.
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>>558580576
We're talking about battlefield here. Domination is fun because you respawn instantly and get back in the action right away. Battle royale is an ass game mode because you spend most of your time either fucking around on the map or dead. Actual fighting is like 5% of playtime.
Gauntlet is okay. Would be better if they removed shit like rodeo.
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How the fuck do I get rid of this fucking yellow dot? (Can't unlock the gadget, because it requires the base game)
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>>558581016
>We're talking about battlefield here. Domination is fun because you respawn instantly and get back in the action right away
Domination is not a mode originating in battlefield, when we're talking about battlefield here. are you dense?
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>>558582641
>unlock it
>click on it
>it get's another yellow dot every update/season change, without the button for "accept all", which has been asked for since day one lmao
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>>558581016
>Battle royale is an ass game mode because you spend most of your time either fucking around on the map or dead. Actual fighting is like 5% of playtime.
oh just do hot drops on golf course and die in 5 seconds and go again waiting 3 minutes for the damn lobby to fill up you old fart
skill issue
L + ratio
how about instead of checking my stats you check yourself into a retirement home
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>>558588094
It's not that complicated. I just want to have fun. I don't care about "competitiveness" or whatever you're implying. There aren't that many casual and populated games in this genre right now so it works for me.
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Pop quiz, which team is this skin for?
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>mfw using the M277 for the first time after the patch
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thoughts on them (lmao as if it would happen) diversifying the compensators into more
>first 2 (or so) shots have minimal recoil, but no effect afterwards
>medium effect on recoil across the board
>little effect on first few bullets, but later shots have little recoil
instead of
>pshhh yeah they uh... they do stuff i guess? hey wait why are you only using the flash hider and the suppressor?
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why is there sitll no option to enforce soldier uniformity at a client level? all of these fucking gay skins come out and i cannot tell them apart for factions. its all generic PMC soldiers with international accents for pax and nato, and UI markers for friendlies dont load in until you're within 15 meters of them anyway. why not let me pick which squads i want to represent each faction? that way i can instantly recognize enemies / allies without having to second guess when i see a soldier in dark camo with full tacticool gear.
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>it's only been in the game a week and I've already seen a dozen matches where some guy goes 70 and 0 on Contamination, just hiding behind the mountains and dipping out of view
luckily just 2 or 3 blasting them with LMGs makes surprisingly quick work of them
>but how do I get multiple people to shoot them
get some friends or something
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>some guy goes 70 and 0 on Contamination
you really have to let them do it as a team. attack heli shits on little bird, other little bird shits on little bird, guided shells/tows/rpgs shit on the little bird, stationary aa also shits on it.
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>>558617474
you are goyim nigger cattle
I am goyim nigger cattle
anyone who bought this game is goyim nigger cattle
the options you're talking about, some real common sense shit, is not deemed a suitable gift to give to goyim nigger cattle
>what use would the goy slaves have for such a feature?
this is a $70 game with a battlepass that only gives exactly enough goy-bux back to get the pass next season
this is a $70 game with a cash shop with skins that cost $20
and all the decent looking skins that aren't OBVIOUSLY intentionally ugly, are in that cash shop
WE ARE CATTLE
DICE KNOWS THAT WE ARE CATTLE
EA KNOWS THAT WE ARE CATTLE
AND THE SAUDIS THOUGHT TO THEMSELVES
>damn can we get some access to that customer base of goyim nigger cattle slaves???
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the attack heli should always have a gunner, thats the point of it. but even without it 1 heavy rocket pod deals 90% of a little birds HP, but solo attack heli vs little bird is more in the little birds favor at that point.
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why do i have to pay $25 every season just to listen to limp bizkit in game? did DICE at least add more songs to BFPro radio station?
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>>558620390
>why do i have to pay $25 every season just to listen to limp bizkit in game?
please see >>558619365 for the answer you seek
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>>558618189
The aircraft itself is incredibly annoying, but it's the pilots who are the real problem. They are massive braggarts by nature, and they HATE any form of pushback or criticism of their behaviour. They're genuinely antisocial, because the little bird does not require any real teamwork to excel like every other vehicle does. It's a one-man-show and they know it.
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>>558628552
It's a badly designed vehicle in general. It does nothing except kill infantry. It doesn't require any form of support, it doesn't enable any form of teamwork other than maybe "I killed those guys so now they can't shoot you". At least the attack helicopter needs two people, and at least the jets are good at taking out vehicles. Little Bird is basically the sniper recon of vehicles. It's fun for the pilot and shit for everyone else in the server.
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>>558628926
boy if we make you seethe now i can't wait until they nerf your faggot skill less TOWs and RPGs and we get to really go wild
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>It doesn't require any form of support
the thermal camera is absolutely BUSTED on the little bird's copilot seat. its like the attack helicopters prox scan but with way more uptime. it even lets you see people indoors too, i've spotted a ton of people inside of the mini hangar on contaminated. also really nice to have everything laser designated for your team at all times if the person using camera knows when to swap between the thermal camera and laser designator.
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>>558630679
>viable counters
TOWs / guided shells are totally braindead, they take no skill at all to use. but because actual AA sucks DICE left it alone otherwise there would be no counter to air except other air.
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>>558630646
that doesn't auto spot and and the laser designator is actually a detriment if you do it to a helicopter they are trying to sneak up on
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>viable counters
when no one uses the actual tools meant to be used for anti air in favor of RPGs that act like lasers and INFANTRY FIGHTING VEHICLES and MAIN BATTLE TANKS spamming TOWs that are so easy to use a 6 year old could do it, there is a problem
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>>558630948
actual AA tools are fucking garbage. mobile AA cannon rounds have a laughably short distance, terrible spread, slow velocity, and give you away if you try to shoot something too far away. AA missiles are an annoyance and most pilots will know how to juke them with terrain even if they have no flares, and even if they dont have terrain to hide behind just flying nap of the earth causes AA missiles to fly over you most of the time anyway.
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MAA actually shreds air if you dumbasses would actually leave spawn
and if nothing else, AA missiles and stingers deny most of the map to pilots. you may not get the kill (unless flares bug which has been a thing lately) but they won't be getting many kills either
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>>558630809
>RPGS and TOWs aren't meant for anti-air
They're exactly the type of AA that DICE should be promoting instead of braindead lock-ons. You fags are just so used to being able to stomp with impunity in your little bird for over a decade that you've forgotten what a viable skill-based counter that doesn't require insane amounts of luck and finesse looks like.
And btw, TOWs in BF6 aren't even that good. They're nothing close to the shit you could pull off in in BC2, 3, 4, etc.
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>>558631461
MAA doesnt shred anything. you have to have the overheat perk for engineer before light rounds even become usable, burst is trash, heavy rounds are a meme pick if you want to poke armor and 2 tap infantry (but you still have to put up with god awful offset aiming due to twin cannons). i actually love when MAA leaves spawn because it means i can absolutely destroy their shit with the attack heli since DPS is so lopsided between the vehicles.
if a helicopter hovers directly over you yes you deal damage to it but an IFV or MBT can shit on it before it ever even gets that close. even stationary AA does more damage than MAA cannons do and you dont flashbang yourself nonstop while firing it like MAAs light rounds.
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meanwhile, me, blissfully not dealing with any of this shit
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>>558632475
Literally everyone was painting at launch, but at the same time nobody actually had weapons capable of exploiting that fact.
I still paint whenever possible but it does sweet fuck all because the javelin is shit and the AA missiles are also shit.
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>>558630948
>when no one uses the actual tools meant to be used for anti air
Because they're useless. Lock-ons never hit and the AA tank is a peashooter. Give me dedicated anti-air options that shit on air as hard as air shits on literally everything and I'll pretend we're even.
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>>558633213
why do you think that the matchup should be even for a vehicle that only one person on a team can have at a time and has a 90 second respawn versus something that 32 people can be on the other team at all times?
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>>558633428
On maps that have AA tanks there's only one per team but multiple air vehicles most of which are perfectly capable of dunking on everything they encounter while the AA tank is garbage against all ground targets. Why shouldn't the AA tank melt air vehicles?
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>>558633692
>Why shouldn't the AA tank melt air vehicles?
it does, if it actually leaves spawn
not only does it melt but it near insta disables which leads to certain death most of the time
the problem with MAA is sitting in spawn being completely invincible while shooting at and annoying air vehicles all game with nothing they can do about it. this was also a big issue in previous BF games when they were even stronger
>air vehicles dunking on everything they encounter
little bird is completely useless against vehicles that aren't jeeps and ATVs
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>>558633923
>it does, if it actually leaves spawn
Not really. I've seen plenty of AA tanks move up into the middle area of the map and all they ever accomplish is dying faster.
>they were all bad
It's strange, I regularly see good pilots who single-handedly swing otherwise normal matches into shitstomps but I never, ever see a good AA tank driver who can consistently kill enemy air vehicles. That seems statistically unlikely if the vehicles are balanced but maybe it's just me somehow.
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>>558634493
>I've seen plenty of AA tanks move up into the middle area of the map and all they ever accomplish is dying faster.
probably from people trying to use MAA as MBTs or IFVs not knowing that it's for anti air
>I've seen
>I regularly see
so, you've never actually used one? or been on the receiving end of one? all it takes is one recon tard plopping down a SOFLAM (can even be the MAA driver doing it) and an MAA to completely shut down 90% of the map for a pilot. from their spawn on most maps
and, since you are never involved in either side of the equation, have you considered that you only notice when one of the things you described is happening? and that you don't notice when the game is NOT being dominated by pilots?
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>>558634883
>so, you've never actually used one? or been on the receiving end of one?
Yes I have but I've also posted long enough to know that the only response "I tried that and it doesn't work the way you say it does" receives is "lol ur bad."
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>>558635279
you mean like you did? >>558631890
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the season just started and the hype is dead
grim
when is season 3 coming?
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>>558635358
That's not my post.
These are my posts:
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>>558635470
wow who could have guessed a single new map wasnt enough? literally every fucking player in the game could have told them that but they're swedish and fucking retarded and apparently it's 'too hard' for their dev team of multiple entire studios to make maps any faster than this
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>>558635470
i know people are asking for more content (maps, guns, vehicles) but as long as huge problems remain in game those wont actually fix anything. long gun grinds, completely broken vehicle ecosystem, terrible IFF.
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>>558634883
Jetfag here. The only map I ever feel truly shut down on by maa is blackwell and even then I can get kills and shut down their air by going full sweat mode. Mirak I only ever get shut down on if the other team completely controls the north field around b or d depending on side but those games are rare. Mirak is the map above all else that people will sit in their spawn literally all game. I have seen far too many 30 minute mirak's where both sides mbt/ifv are sitting in spawn tow spamming the entire fucking match.
It's almost impossible to get shut down as pax on firestorm. The big mountain is just too fucking big of an advantage.
It can happen as nato but it's not that rare.
>>558636737
I just want radar fixed. That's all. The rest of the shit I can deal with as annoying as it gets at time.
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>>558635470
The game will never recover. Most of the people who quit have already forgotten about it and nothing could ever make them come back. The devs could update it to be perfect in every way and it still wouldn't be enough. You only get one chance and they've had it.
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>>558635470
62k 24h peak is dead?
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/bfg/ lost
DICE won
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>>558650125
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>>558650560
mfw battlefront 2
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>>558646765
*Embark WON
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Why the chinese/asian subhumans always flock to eu servers, they're always so fucking pathetic.
Insectoids spend 50 hours killing bots to farm kd and lvl.
Everyone can see your true kd on tracker, that 1,5 player kd isn't gonna change itself, and neither are their small chinese dicks, total chink death.
Can't even type anything to those subhumans cuz of ai chat bans
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>>558636737
I don't even think about air most games. I just regard them as an annoyance that sometimes kills me randomly. Whatever, I can't be bothered to play their little minigame.
Things were better back in 1942 when they were slow as molasses and you had flak cannons at every corner. It felt like there were some tradeoffs. (I also miss big ships.)
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>>558629196
>nerf your faggot skill less TOWs and RPGs
lmfao why even complain, its still piss easy to go 100-0 when you have miniguns that two shot infantry
bitching about a lucky rpg making you go 100-1 instead of 100-0 is peak main character syndrome but thats airfags for you
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>>558663419
There shouldn't be any kind of aggression based matchmaking in arc, especially not the overtuned and broken version embark actually uses if the whole point is to showcase the spectrum of human interaction
Instead its a pve scavenger hunt against bots
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>>558663663
>There shouldn't be any kind of aggression based matchmaking in arc
why not? the game was always made for casuals it's a 3rd person shooter after all, and pvp was an afterthought that was only added because it's an unfinished early access slop game that devs basically admitted in one of their dev videos
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>>558664096
The problem with any kind of aggressive matchmaking (be it like in cod or arc) is that its overly reactive. If someone wants to pvp in arc for a bit but are normally friendly, they then have to reverse boost with free kits and never shooting back until they end up back where they started. The whole thing just seems asinine to me.
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>>558665879
I'm surprised there isn't a separate mode where pvp is disabled so players can't damage other players also I recall one of CoD's extraction mode has something like that even have the ability to revive downed players outside your squad assuming you run into one of them of course and they haven't bled out
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>>558661498
my player kd is 4,6, chink kd with cheats is 1.5, i've seen those subhumans play all the time on bf v spectator mode, not even aimbot can help this asian subhuman insectoids, filth race is getting fed by fried insects on gutter oil and these are the results
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>Just drive the AA out of spawn bro
Motherfucker there is a TANK sitting in a hull-down position no more than twenty metres from the spawn border with sabots loaded. If you want me pushing forward you will do your fucking job.
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Sometimes this game is really annoying but then you land two 190m headshots back to back after a sniper duo had you pinned, then you remembered why you logged in to this shit
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>>558630948
>that doesn't auto spot
it does while its active and you can also tap q and manually spot as well. there is a night and day difference flying between having to scan for people solo and having your screen lit up with 3D icons everywhere telling you exactly where everyone is.
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Another problem with the introduction of the little bird is that the damned thing is guaranteed to be present on pretty much any map with helicopters now. It's not up to player discretion like in 2042, there WILL be some faggot flying that tiny little asshole and pissing everybody off.
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>>558604635
I don't get it either. The vast majority of weapons kick like a fucking mule yet people keep saying they're all laser beams.
And that's without even mentioning the random spread shit...
A lot of them do get better if you tap fire, but if a weapon is a laser beam, you shouldn't need to tap fire.
And I get it, vertical recoil is easy to control, but from my experience, most weapons have a lot of horizontal.
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>>558400337
>even acknowledging young shelton
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>>558689936
Jesus Christ.
>>558690182
Seems to me it either kills in one shot making it a straight upgrade from the first pump action or it kills in two shots making it worse than both semi autos. I don't see a good middle ground.
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>>558694728
They could make it fire the left barrel with left click, and the right barrel with right click. Then make it so 2 shots is a guaranteed kill at, idk, 7 meters or some shit like that.
That would make people seethe real hard haha... (me included)
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>>558620390
Alright, partner
Keep on rollin', baby
You know what time it is
(Throw your hands up)
(Throw your, your hands up)
Ladies and gentlemen (Throw your, throw, throw your)
(Throw your, your, your hands, your, your hands up)
(Throw your hands up)
Chocolate Starfish
(Throw your hands up)
Wanna keep on rollin', baby (Throw your hands up)
(Throw your hands up)
(Throw your hands up)
(I move in, now move out) Hands up, now hands down
(Back up, back up) Tell me what you're gonna do now
(Breathe in, now breathe out) Hands up, now hands down
(Back up, back up) Tell me what you're gonna do now
Keep rollin', rollin', rollin', rollin' (What?)
Keep rollin', rollin', rollin', rollin' (Come on)
Keep rollin', rollin', rollin', rollin' (Yeah)
Keep rollin', rollin', rollin', rollin'
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>silk tries to show off how OP the littlebird is
>gets 80 kills but dies 6 times
>thats only with a passenger repping him, saving it after he gets shot out, and spotting for him nonstop
>other teams pilots were also total dogshit so literally the absolute ideal game
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>>558719013
>maybe it's because no one is really that good in them.
no real maps to train on. you're average lifespan in a jet is going to be 60 seconds if that before something shoots you down and after dying the exact same way 3-4 times in a row (if you even were able to pull the jet after the first death) means most people just give up after getting into the jet a few times if at all. doesnt help there are a ton of hidden mechanics not explained to players at all. below the radar, laser designation, thrust vectoring, aiming ATGMs in third person with free look etc.
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whats the consensus on the vcr2?
havent unlocked it yet but it looks broken
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>>558731172
It's pretty stupid. Just point at people and bzzzt they're dead, the end. Recoil in this game is so low and engagement distances are so low that even the supposed high recoil gun is still pretty easy to keep on target.
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>>558732207
Don't have them yet. The new MG looks slightly worse than the M240 to me because of the belt options though. M240 gets a 75 round box (which also improves moving accuracy for some reason?) for 10 points which I think is a good deal. MG5 has no 75 round option and its 100 round box costs 55 fucking points so it may as well not exist. So you're stuck with 50 rounds which isn't that good, and on top of that the reload is much slower than the M240 with 50 too. To the point that if you pay the 5 extra points for the faster reload box you're still slower than the M240 default. How is that fair?
DMR grot looks shit, it's the LMR but with free bigger mags in return for worse rof. Since you pretty much always take bigger mags on the LMR that effectively means it's an LMR with more attachment points in return for worse rof. Which I think is probably a bad trade, but I don't care either way. I don't care about the LMR or LMRlikes. This isn't a weapon I give a shit about.
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>>558735568
Oh, god.
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>>558732474
I'm think they are scared of everyone using big mags like in CoD as seen in picrel where everyone was rocking the M4 with 100 round drum mags
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>>558732207
The AR is the new best all round. The LMG is ok but nothing to write home about, you go through the 50 bullets way too fast for the lengthy reload and its not that accurate so you are stuck with your secondary close to the enemy. I didn’t try the DMR yet since these are not even fun in BF6 apart from the SVK and that one is still only mid unfortunately.
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>>558728295
jets are just not effective in the current state. Dogfights take forever and are basically random and there's some retarded obsession with stingers in this game so you are pretty much forced to just wait flares for the half of the duration of the match. That adds up to the lock on range, and to the occasional tows or some other bullshit (like flying under radar not working, stingers going through flares or fucking trees) that this stupid game constantly throws at you. It's plain unsatisfying even if you manage to go 50/1 in a match, because that only happens in the dumb lobbies (literally, i had matches where the enemy team NEVER spawned in a jet or tried to stinger me on lib peak).
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>>558754293
>retarded obsession with stingers in this game
lmao airfags
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Massive concept art dump
https://magazine.artstation.com/2026/02/battlefield-6-art-blast/
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>>558765308
>SMG
mp5
>Rifle
scar
>LMG
mg4
>Sniper
2010
>DMR
svk
>Side weapon
44
>Map
cairo
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>>558770421
Good catch, maybe the game was supposed to have a call-in system
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>>558770937
Pretty sure its just the loadout drops from RedSec
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>>558776979
i mean just look at it. It's not even close.
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>>558777532
That horizontal green line is part of the drone, not the possible pod. There's another drone in that art so we can be sure of that. Though the pod/bomb/whatever is mostly out of frame so we still can't tell what it is.
That art is of the single player campaign so I'm not sure it's relevant to anything anyway.
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payload doesn't have the flaps from the supply pod. But it's not like they're obligated to make the final product 1:1 with concept art. If i were to bet, it's an early version of the supply pod. They later added flaps, but never bothered to implement the actual drone.
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>>558754293
>i had matches where the enemy team NEVER spawned in a jet
i dont blame them for not even pulling it. if you know you're going to fly for around 45 seconds then die without ever getting a kill why bother?
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>nice skin
>it's a w*man
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oh come on now, I was just being cheeky
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>>558810496
>all w*man nato squad
r8, h8, masterb8
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>>558812029
Try starting a round with, "Remember. No Indian," usually got some safe chuckles in beta
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>>558812505
I personally don't mind playing as women as long as the uniform looks cool. Except for assault, I don't picture these girly girls on the assault role, it sounds very physical.
Though this Spaniard recon can probably do it, she looks bulky for some reason.
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when they gonna rework this shitshow
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>>558814253
>I personally don't mind playing as women as long as the uniform looks cool.
me neither man. the only time battlefield was immersive enough for me to care about that was back in the day during bf4. when I had no idea what I was doing.
>Except for assault, I don't picture these girly girls on the assault role, it sounds very physical.
i couldn't care less desu. but to each their own. all of these roles sound physically demanding. the engi is literally carrying rockets+launcher+mines.
>Though this Spaniard recon can probably do it, she looks bulky for some reason.
its the ghillie/outfit me thinks
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TOTALWOMENDEATH
FINALLY FREEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>558822756
you bought the BP therefore you bought the skin you fucking imbeciles
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>>558823229
yeah i totally buyed this FREE skin you doublenigger
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>>558823485
Well my fucking bad. Like I even look at the battlepass at all. Of course it has free nodes to keep the goyim hooked
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>>558824129
Free or not yes, I bought it, as I plan on playing every season (or at least some of them) and you get all the seepee back.
No, I'm not gonna defend how shitty the rewards are, or how slow it is to progress. But it's basically just 10 bucks once. If there's any "fair enough" cosmetic shit in games it's usually the BP, especially one that gives you the "money" back.
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Do you guys think that Battlefield could have its own successful F2P component that isn't yet another Battle Royale or an Extraction mode? If so, what would the gamemode look like?
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i got 2 jumpapaloozas today. one more clip after this one. both are pretty bad. my aimbot malfunctioned.
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>>558828309
Nah, they would need to go full f2p, but it can't, because f2p games need retarded cosmetics up the ass so paypiggies and whales can keep the game afloat. If you add all that shit to BF, it would ruin it for a lot of people, I think most of us would agree that we'd prefer the game to stay as single payment and stay as it is.
CoD already crossed that bridge with cosmetics, they should've capitalized on it and make it like CoD Mobile, where it's free but ridden with cosmetics. Instead of selling yearly slop, they could've been the League of Legends of fps games.
xDefiant was almost there, too.
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2nd one.
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>>558828309
Unironically yes.
Imagine a map that is almost as big as Fort Lyndon that could accommodate a large playercount of more than 100 players split into two teams that include both infantry and vehicles, the gamemode would essentially be a grand version of Breakthrough, with each part of the map being split into sectors. It should have dynamic element(s) to make it more refreshing and replayable, either by reintroducing Levolution/weather events and Behemoths, or via map design like Damavand (mountain -> base jump -> tunnel -> mining camp)
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>>558409516
That's just Jake Gyllenhaal.
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>>558833416
We already had a Gyllenhaal clone before
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>>558832882
Actually, They could do a pretty interesting 50v50 mode where you need to scavenge your weapons and do the BR missions as a team for points. Would be a solid way to give that Battlefield vibe while still salvaging the work put into the BR.
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>>558835548
So kinda like Plunder but instead of cash its points
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>>558835943
Elaborating
>50v50
>A random circle of the BR map (doesn't change in size the duration of the game)
>Opposing teams base spawns rotate slowly around the map from opposite sides of the circle from the chinooks
>Do different BR missions based on map location rather than selecting them from a list, so you're not required to work with the squad you're given.
>After mission is completed by a team, the area has a cooldown for a little while before a new mission can spawn, encouraging rotation.
>HVT missions spawn against squads that are doing well.
>Start out with pistol and standard BR class gadgets
>Scavenge weapons/gadgets/armor/airstrikes the same as BR. Crates reset on mission spawn.
>Redeploy beacons act as a spawn point for the whole team and are captured like points in the regular game (maybe also has a point ticker?)
>Aside from the deploy beacons, you can also spawn on your squad, or from spawn beacons scavenged from the map that your squad deploys.
>Every confirmed kill is 1 point.
>Every squad wipe is an additional 3 points
>Every completed mission is 50 points
>First to 1200 points give or take wins.
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WHY THE FUCK DO MY AMD DRIVERS KEEP CRASHING WITH THIS NEW UPDATE IT HAPPENS EVERY FUCKING HOUR AT LEAST FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK
WHAT THE FUCK HAVE THE SWIGGERS DONE TO FUCK MY 7900XTX THIS BAD
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>>558849905
It only just started to happen this frequently from season 2 onwards and it seems like multiple other people have this issue like this guy >>558839159
Jeet coding with unfiltered AI code has fucked this game. It would only happen at most once or twice a week before and now it's every fucking hour especially on contiminated
Vince died in a crash so EA decided everyone must also suffer with the crashes
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>>558850152
>falling for the leather jacket chink jew's LLM lies and shitty AI drivers
You're getting fucked either way and I'm not paying a 50-100% premium on RRP just for Raytracing™ and Frame Generation™ with AI-Assisted Input Lag™ for the exact same raster performance
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It's ok, guys. We're all getting equally fucked either way.
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>>558849423
Works on my machine, and I've got a 7900XT. You on win11 or some shit?
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>>558860181
Why would he even acknowledge this place? To the normalfags, this is just another volatile 4chan thread, good only to laugh at the dumb faggots crying about female soldiers. Besides, most of us see Enders as a self-centered sperg who gets very upset that BF6 isn't specifically catering to his specific special boy preferences, and yet can't stop playing it because none of his other content gets enough traction. He'd get anal annihilated if he came here.
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>Gives an alternative to the 5.11 skins as a bundle
>Forgets the engineer skin
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>End up in little bird's sightline
>Die instantly
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>2026
>still caring about consoles
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>>558878539
>Open up with machine gun
>It turns around, I die
>Shoot RPG
>It avoids it because it is tiny and incredibly fast, I die
>SOFLAM it
>Nobody takes advantage, I die because it makes a big red spot on my face
>AA tank
>It is too small to hit with the shitty cannons outside of point blank range and missiles don't work because flares + below radar
>It at least can't kill the AA tank but some other cunt will
>AA stationary gun
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>>558879070
Eh, plenty of people played as women in BFV without prompting. Sure, half of them were too lazy to use the customisation screen, but that's on them. Some others put in the effort. I made my US sniper a cute tomboy in a trenchcoat.
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>>AA stationary gun
>>Does actual damage, fails to secure kill, gets sniped immediately
I hate this so much, I feel like they should buff it. Either not get hot as quick or cool down faster. It's made of paper anyways so any helo will instakill you. You also show up on the map.
Though somehow you need like 4 c4 to kill it as infantry lol.
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>>558882834
No, they do. And it's just one giant audience with no specific tastes. All they have to do is make some more female characters and then all the women currently playing Stardew Valley or whatever on their laptop's igpu will switch over to BF6 no problem.
Wait, it didn't work like that? That's so weird, how could anyone have predicted this?
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>>558893848
there will never be a free hack ecosystem like bf4/1/v. kernel level ac generally guarantees anything public getting patched within a week or two. so cheat makers don't bother making their ac bypasses and cheats public.
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>>558893848
little bird with the spotting perk can paint the entire team really quick if they have someone on thermal camera. i'd need to test it in portal to confirm it but im pretty sure it spots people through terrain too, you can fully ID everyone in the hangar on contaminated for example.
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>>558903997
>Season 3
>Pax attacks Japan
>American bases in Japan gets bombed to shit
>Pacific fleet reinforcements still on their way from Hawaii/San Diego
>It's JSDF time to hold them off until they arrive
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>>558941585
why would i play marathon when i can just fuck my ass with a dildo and have more fun compared to playing extraction shooter slop
i get my ass fucked either way, but at least my eyes dont bleed, i get to avoid FOMO about a beta2 test for a game thats not gonna have a playerbase on actual launch because its a paid game, AND i dont have to deal with retarded teammates / general multiplayer bullshit
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You forgot they added the Little Bird, retard.
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>Can't listen to Idles or else remember 2042
>Can't listen to Limp Bizkit or else remember BF 6
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>>558957968
Oh yeah, that too. Have fun fighting the entire rest of the team for it though. Also have fun learning to fly it, since the devs didn't bother making it available in portal even though it's been ready for months.
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>detected
bro you shot it
i'm not going to say their range isn't crazy but no shit it explodes when you shoot it
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>play terrible
>basically just run around the obj and get owned
>we lose
>check stats
>be #1 with double the score of #2
how are people so unbelievably unfathomably spectacularly bad!?
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>>558968556
The price of high fidelity ultra realistic graphics is increased development time. If we had Unreal Tournament 2004 graphics we would get at least 5-10 maps per season.
Also imagine if Battlefield had a custom map creator. The community would make some cool shit, i know it.
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>>558985856
AR is very good within around 40m, past that recoil makes it hard to use. Competitive with pretty much anything inside that range. Godlike in gauntlet/BR because of how plates work but you probably don't play those. If you do then it's godlike.
LMG is fine, it's a sidegrade to M240 which is already really good.
DMR is fucking shit, don't bother.
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>>558981160
This is what makes the game bad
Your team playing like toddlers rolling around in the mud
The most annoying one is when the entire team is dead set on getting the point closest to enemy hq and loses all the other points in the process, lose that point and never recover anything again
at least its a fast loss
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>>558990840
>automatic zeroing
>Updated the Range Finder custom zeroing to not apply its effect instantly; it now requires a short delay before taking effect.
just stop playing the dumpster fire bro
im just here to smile waiting for the doomposting
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>Conquest is nothing but players sitting back with snipers
>try TDM/Dom/King of the Hill for the hell of it, can't be worse
>Nothing but dudes sitting in corners, windows, rooftops
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>>558998762
that's because of MUH KD
playing objectives is for losers
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>>558843338
The current developers haven't played anything prior to 2016 and I only mention that year because it's the year BF1 was released, and for some reason they are aware that the sweet spot mechanic was added to that game and then removed it until it made a return in BF6.
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Battlefield 6 is quite possibly the worst feeling gunplay hit reg/hit detection, shooting feeling fps game i have ever played
i can shoot someone with 15 bullets all connecting i die to 1 shot whilst for some reason the person doesnt die
the recoil doesnt matter because bloom just fucks you randomly if you tip toe to the side whilst shooting it feels fucking awful im never buying a battlefield game over Call of duty again holy fucking dogshit
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The massive amount of bloom/spread in this game is hilariously retarded. I loved having my reticle right on a mf'ers torso, but my bullets are going all around him because of that shit. Sometimes it was fun just to shoot a wall, and compared where your reticle is and see where the bullets are going. The gunfights in this game are 100% phony.
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>>559023901
>i like randomness to my gunfights
Tell everyone you're a shitter without saying you're a shitter.
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>>559025541
>implies he's good at the game
>says spread is bad for the game
KEKAROOOOOOO
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>>559025331
I asked the same thing more than a month ago when I got a queue after relogging at like 4 am, when lobbies were being filled with bots. And some anon said EA might be using dynamic servers, that change player cap depending on time of day or date.
It's a thing now, apparently.
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>spread?
>bloom?
>recoil?
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>>559025541
I agree with both to an extent. I think short range guns like smgs should have wacky spread to make them a short range weapon, while slow rifles should have very minimal, if any at all, recoil should do most of the skillcheck imo.
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In BF6 there is literally no reason for the spread to be as high as it is when the vast majority of gunfights occur in close-medium range at longest. A little bit of spread can be good if you have a lot of long range engagements so you're not getting beamed from 500 yds away. The only reason why you'd make the spread as high as it is, with maps this small, would be to lower the skill gap for shitters like you, to allow you to spray and still get kills.
No reasonable player would enjoy this amount of randomness to their bullets.
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You're exactly right, and that's my point. Granted I haven't played this game in months, but at release the SMGs were the clear cut meta because they had the lowest spread. You could easily outgun ARs at range with SMGs because you didn't have to deal with the randomness.
Punishing players who can actually control recoil is retarded, and is only cheered on by shitters. Like I said in another post, some spread is good to prevent cross-map beaming, but BF6 has very minimal amount of long-range engagements because of the maps.
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>there is literally no reason for the spread to be as high as it is
BF3 and 4 had higher spread penalties despite having much larger maps on average than BF6 to the point where full autoing outside of point blank was an extremely inefficient way of shooting for nearly every gun in the game
You have been spoiled by games like call of duty and 2042 which offer virtually no accuracy penalty for mag dumping and shooting while spamming movement options. Prior to BF1 battlefield has always been a burst fire meta and the skill gap came from spread control and managing the tradeoff between accuracy and mobility, not how well you can pull down your mouse.
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I stated that spread can be good when you have large maps. The difference is that in BF6, you have very little long range gunfights, so there's no practical reason for the spread to be as high as it was in a game where most fights are close quarters. It introduces too much randomness when you do.
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BF6 spread is not high to begin with
That's your perspective because you're too used to games where spread is either nonexistent or negligible, which allowed you to build up shitty habits that no longer work in BF6
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>>low skilled players still crying about spread
if my red dot is on a enemy and im shooting yet the bullets go in a random direction other than the red dot whilst you have no control over that you cry low skilled? you are just a retard simple as remove your head from your ass
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I can tell you over a billion common angles on cairo alone where if spread was nonexistent the game would be unplayable. you don't understand basic game balance. whats your bftracker? since you keep implying you're good at the game while having such a retarded take
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>but at release the SMGs were the clear cut meta because they had the lowest spread. You could easily outgun ARs at range with SMGs because you didn't have to deal with the randomness.
so you're actually trolling I take it? G36 beat SCW at range. G3 beat SCW at range. NVO beat SCW at range. If you need more than 5-7 shots to kill against an smg at long range your aim is actually shit. sick self expose there mate.
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how many shots did you miss prior to correctly aligning your aim over your enemy? again, these bad players keep self exposing.
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>if my red dot is on a enemy
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>>559028020
You instantly aim perfectly at someone, let alone someone moving, from hip fire?
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>>559028389
well yeah i flick on mouse but the bloom fires your bullets everywhere but where you are aiming plus the hit detection is bad plus netcode feels like shit there is a bunch of shit happening i dont need to make anything its just my experience compared to when playing games like cod or cs
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>so you're actually trolling I take it? G36 beat SCW at range. G3 beat SCW at range. NVO beat SCW at range. If you need more than 5-7 shots to kill against an smg at long range your aim is actually shit. sick self expose there mate.
Of course on paper looking at the kill ranges some guns are going to *appear* to be better than others. But yet SMGs were still king because they had the lowest spread, so the lowest amount of randomness to deal with. I'm not arguing for no spread, all I'm saying is that it was unnecessarily high in this game were the vast majority of fights were in close - medium range. But some of you dumbfucks are too dug in on defending shit an overtuned mechanic meant to prop shitty players like you up.
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>>559026648
I wasn't talking about recoil, my point is that BF6's weapon spread isn't actually that random at all.
Recoil is balanced similarly to previous games with high caliber rifles and very high RoF guns having the most recoil, the only major difference is that your point of aim is tied to your sight instead of screen center combined with visual recoil. Multiple guns in the latest patch have received major low recoil buffs.
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you don't miss your first shot because of spread you uneducated faggot. You miss your first shot because of your bad aim. spread kicks in after you've fired first couple of rounds.
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>cs
cs literally has first shot inaccuracy built in to its gunplay. in fact cs also has spread. The recoil is never 1:1. Bullet deviation builds up the longer you hold down m1 and your bullets starts spreading from the gun's intended recoil pattern. another faggot who doesn't know what he's talking about.
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>too retarded to understand that using the same amount of spread in past games that had actual large maps, doesn't work in a game with the smallest maps in the franchise ( by far iirc )
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>>559030037
We were talking about the red dot not the center of the screen?
inb4
>the red dot is the center of the screen
Yes, but saying "center of the screen" sounds like more of a bigger area than the exacty point the red dot is marking.
Obviously, you center your screen on the player you're gonna shoot and I doubt many people fuck that one up lol.
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>no bftracker
I accept your concession, shitter.
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why is this game so fucking retarded
it's like this EVERY FUCKING TIME
whole enemy team is on B and my team is on C
and then will be ebin clash
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i wish the maps playable boundaries didnt shrink. im fine with cap points points being locked away but its retarded that both bases become the size of the entire map. you also lose a ton of flight space at the end of the round as well because it for some reason.
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>>558876151
>5.11 exclusive one is for the chick
Shan't be buying. Besides only the assault looks good and just barely. Too much 5.11 branding everywhere and he has enough skins as it is. I'm just waiting for the Night Stalkers pack.
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>>559044452
I only really play assault if I have to. Followed by recon, even tho I have almost no games on it compared to assault, sometimes I do feel like aggressive sniping even tho I'm shit at it.
I mostly played engi, but I'm starting to play support a lot more this season, rpg is so fucking bad and I can barely get into a position where it does good dmg to a tank, I feel like it's only useful if you're gonna be sitting on a tank or if you fill the map with mines. Airvics are impossible to kill for me.
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love me dakka
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Blame the devs for doing a bad job. Nobody wants the classes to be unbalanced. If they weren't incompetent people wouldn't be able to stick to the "best" class because there wouldn't be one.
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How are you guys feeling the BP exp this season? I'm still on the first path at 20/22, but I'm getting like 2 blips per game if I get around 20 kills. It seems a bit faster but I'm not sure... The last few paths of s1 were fucking brutal.
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2/22 on my second path now
it "feels" faster but I don't really know how they changed the progression, they only claimed to have done so
I remember blips slowing to a crawl near the end in the first season but then again I hit XP cap every day for like a week straight on bot farms and was able to finish the pass with over a month of weeklies left undone
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jesus fuck the non-redsex version of the game is literally unplayable unless youre supply
if you play any other class you run out of ammo i guess other than using a sniper.
nobody puts down ammo boxes.
i have to just pick up someone else's random fucking kit
how do you people play this shit
>match also starts without enough vehicles to hold all the players
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>>559054301
Most people either play support or engi, so you will see bags all over the place. And even if you don't, you can run up to a support and press E, that gives you like 2 magazines worth of bullets. Idk why people keep complaining about that.
It's very rare for me to run out of ammo, but maybe I die too much, Idk.
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Assault bonus is barely noticeable because it doesn't actually exist. People have done tests and there's no difference between assault with ARs and any other class. The devs somehow wrote a description of the bonus but then forgot to actually put it in the game.
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>>559055421
yeah, i always do way better with ARs and IVe gotten a couple carbines to lvl 30 or whatever, but the recoil patterns on ARs are way nicer imo
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i kill 6-8 people per gun and then im out of ammo
then I just have a pistol unless I ditch my gun and take someone else's random kit or luckily kill a medic and take his kit to throw ammo down
Its normal for me to be alive like I dunno 3-4 mins or longer. sometimes I die like 4 times a match.
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you mean the ones that just endlessly run the fuck away from me?
the ones that arent pushing objective
the ones that are camping behind me like 200m doing nothing but holding a corner as they are 6-13?
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>>559057730
Guns in this game are far too accurate. If you're missing then either you're overestimating yourself and using a gun with recoil you can't handle or you're using one of the grips that says MAKES ADS ACCURACY WORSE and then being surprised by it making your accuracy worse. Which is it?
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nothing. the only weapon bonuses that have impacts on gameplay are engineers hipfire SMG bonus (stacks with hipfire attachments) and recon having significantly less scope sway and being able to steady breath with sniper rifles. but the smg bonus isnt big enough to bar other classes from using it and even sniper rifles are fine to use medium range on any class as well.
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I made like 3 bf6 videos and they all got like 8 views so I finished my dayz series instead.
I shouldn't have looked at my bf6 folder.
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> israelis remove global chat from World of Tanks
> quiet, gay, empty, dead main menu now instead of lively and lulzy and able to answer any question
> never bother to boot it since
Ye. Similar story with TF2 and Dota2. Like damn just let gamers grow old together and breed it's not that hard
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why is friendly fire off in this game? Kuwaitis are allowed to shoot down american steel birds in real life without repercussions and I can't in a fucking video game
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I hope you weren't actually using that vehicle, anon.
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its been enough time
battlebit was more enjoyable than memefield6 due to the social aspect
how am i supposed to have fun if i cant blast it aint me to my tards in my transport over voip
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>someone needs to give you rocket ammo
>tickets and deaths only count when you tap out unlike kills which count on downs
paddle diving to rez 8 retards who just died to that tank going "100" and 0 is just as important for the game than actually nuking the bastard
arguably more important depending on state of the match
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