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Embarrassed Bossu edition!
Two anime series, Dragon Ball Super: BEERUS and Dragon Ball Super: Galactic Patrol, have been announced
Age 1000 game project announced
Xenoverse 2's Future Saga Ch. 3 is out
FighterZ new balance update is out
Gekishin Squadra is out. Bojack is currently the free weekly character.
AGE 1000 TEASER
https://youtu.be/pLscMRafsLI
SPARKING ZERO NEW DLC TEASER
https://youtu.be/SZhl5-ag0tA
GEKISHIN SQUADRA BARDOCK
https://youtu.be/vgqyxN0Kce4
KAKAROT DAIMA PT.2 LAUNCH TRAILER
https://youtu.be/ZY6OAh_7KYw
XV2 FUTURE SAGA CH.3 LAUNCH TRAILER
http://youtu.be/FtxSegpS7TI
FIGHTERZ SS4 DAIMA GOKU
http://youtu.be/fVtdkNqbiKE?t=96
>Useful links:
https://rentry.org/dft79
XV2 news:
>Future Saga 4 DLC on the way, release date TBA
SDBH News/Resources:
>SDBH has ended...We are all Heroes! RIP 05/09/24
>SDBH Database: https://www.carddass.com/dbh/sdbh_mm/cardlist/
>Deck Autism: https://rentry.org/sdbhdecklist
DBSDV news:
>You can have a team of up to 8 characters (7 cards and an avatar)
>3 card types: Impact, Rush, and Boost
>CAA/TAA have been renamed as Action Skills
>If you collect all 7 dragon balls in-game and summon Shenron, you'll pull an guaranteed Super Rare card
>Avatars can also be Namekians or Fridges
>If you max out your SDBH avatar's level and transfer them over to Superdivers, you can unlock default SDBH avatar skins for your Superdivers avatar
>HOW TO FIND YOUR XENOVERSE 2 SAVE ON STEAM guide:
steam > userdata > [your steam id] > 323470 > remote > DBXV21
DBXV2.sav should be there, which is your savefile
If you wish to delete it to try reimporting or for other reasons, disable steamcloud on both Xenoverse 1 and 2 first.
Kakarot:
>Daima DLC Part 2 will release on January 15th
DB The Breakers:
>Season 9 launched with DBZ Broly Raider
>XV Booru: Upload drawfaggotry here
http://xenoverse.booru.org/
Rest in Peace, Akira Toriyama (3/1/2024)
Thank you
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>>558466370
>Xenoverse 3 is real
>Didn't add it to the OP
Anon...
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>>558466370
Boss is so cute.
>>558466579
There's no confirmation it's real outside of some SEA intern on Youtube.
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THIS WILL BE THE YEAR OF TRIO DE DANGERS
>Basil and Lavenda sparking Zero DLC
>Trio de Dangers in Xenoverse 3
>LR Trio de Dangers in Dokkan Battle
>New Trio de Dangers unit in Legends
>CAMEO IN THE GALACTIC PATROL ANIME
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Do you guys think Age 1000 will involve the other universes?
>Sadala and pureblooded Saiyans
>another chance to look at a few other species that U6 shares with U7 and how they're different
>new races from the other universes that are involved with the story like U3 and their glass people
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>>558464195
GT Goku magic clothes do change in-universe between scenes of a same episode. The colors of Bulma's hair change between completely different series and they don't change in-universe, it's a different way to represent the same thing. Are you really too brown to understand something this simple?
>Bulma hair is normal
>GT Goku's clothes are magical
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>>558478150
SS4 canonically can change clothes, look at Goku's boots in Daima.
Simple as.
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>>558483195
that's just how "adult" goku's boots look like
idk why
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>>558474374
I hope we get some other universes. At least the ones who participated in the ToP (2, 3, 4, 6, 9, 10, 11). Better yet, what if they'd let our CACs be FROM those other universes, and have them be our starting areas before exploring the multiverse?
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I don't care about Pan and Uub. I think they're both boring characters. The former is just "Goku but girl" then you might as well just stick with Goku and the latter is just "Gohan but Indian" then you might as well as just stick with Gohan.
I have no love for the next gen, they're all lame and have none of the charm that makes Goku and Vegeta charismatic,and the whe "mentor" thing that DB tried to do is just boring.
Goku doesn't need a successor.
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>>558496285
>they're all lame and have none of the charm that makes Goku and Vegeta charismatic
Goku and Vegeta don't have that charisma anymore either. Well, Goku has a little bit of it left, but Vegeta's washed. They need to unglue him from Goku and put him back on the bench with the others. Turning him into Dragon Ball's deuteragonist was a mistake.
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>>558504926
Honestly, regarding Vegeta, I think Sonic had the best approach to deuteragonists and rivals by not being attached to certaij characters. They fluctuated depending on the game. Shadow is usually considered Sonic's rival, but Sonic doesn't really have a one true rival.
Eggman, his main adversary, sees him as a rival. This is one-sided (kind of like Vegeta).
Metal Sonic is his rival because there can be only one Sonic.
Knuckles is a friendly rival. They are friends but tease each other constantly.
Shadow is a less friendly rival. They respect each other but he doesn't stand Sonic.
Jet is his Riders rival. His rivalry is mainly sporting rivalry.
Silver is not really a rival. They just like to fight each other.
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>>558506240
I mean, it would be Shadow. Shadow is consistently portrayed as the only guy who is close to being Sonic's equal and the only guy Sonic actually takes seriously. He also shares a lot of abilities with Sonic. Robotnik is more like Pilaf or the RRA than anything. Knuckles is like a friendly associate or acquaintance who is closer to Sonic's friends than he is to Sonic himself. Tails is a mix of Bulma and Gohan.
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Shadow being a direct analog to Vegeta is a more recent thing. Prior to the 2010s, he could be antagonistic, sure, but I wouldn't call him particularly unfriendly. Silver used to be more unfriendly than Shadow, who, even in SA2, could be fairly polite. Forces onward turned him into a standoffish, Cell-saga-esque retard with anger issues, but he wasn't always that way.
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>>558507448
in his initial design documents he is explicitly described as being 'Vegeta-like'. from the outset he was meant to have that vibe. it's not like it'd be the first time Sonic Team pulled from DBZ, need I remind you Golden Sonic debuted in 1992 right around when the Cell Saga was airing and all the saiyans were getting their own super saiyan forms.
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Tbf, whilw Shadow is the only one who can (kind of) keep up with Sonic he also occupies a weird spot right now where be and Sonic have no reason to consistently cross paths. He doesn't quite feel lle a rival, but not quite a friend either. He's just kinda there these days. I'm not sure what Team Sonic have in store for him
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>>558490556
Sparking Zero at the Battle Hour is a given if this list is any indication.
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Fucking WHY
AND WHY DO THESE GLUE EATING DIPSHITS ALWAYS CHANGE TO MANUAL WHEN THEY HAVEN'T EVEN LEARNED HOW TO PICK THE FUCKING CARDS YET
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>>558508014
>in his initial design documents he is explicitly described as being 'Vegeta-like'
I know, but I'm saying when you look at the games, he wasn't actually written to be all that Vegeta-like until recently. I know what they were going for with him, but they either failed to deliver or decided during development that he shouldn't just be a diet Vegeta. Whatever the case, he has now become diet Vegeta.
Also, my browser cookies reset, so now I'm stuck having to do these bullshit captchas again.
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Xeno 2
>I am a sucker for CaC autism
>fighting the same frieza grunt/red ribbon robot on the kakarot overworld gets old fast
>every boss fight gets the flow interrupted every 12 seconds by them gaining hyper armor, flashing red, and charging up a stun attack that you need to block or dodge
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>>558526873
There was a playlist in Namco's South Asian channel called Xenoverse 3 that included Age 1000. They eventually deleted it, so Age 1000 is probably Xenoverse 3, and if it is, they're not announcing it as such right now for whatever reason.
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>>558534573
only the age 1000 trailer was there
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>>558467610
As someone who's played it from February 2023 to March 2025, I second that Anon's advice.
The game is a boring grindfest, and when it's not (once you hit the endgame and all you have to do is farm Co-Op, friendship crystals and the occasional raid to clear the exchange shops), it's an irritating and miserable experience as you have to climb as high as you can in the Ranked PvP mode to collect gems for pulls because there's no other way to get those.
The story, which gets updated once or twice per year, is absolutely not worth the hassle.
I'm thankful for giving me Shallot and I did have a good time until the later half of 2025 as an F2P,, maybe it changed for the better in the time I left (I wouldn't count on that; new rarity, supports that you have to level up and put you at a disadvantage if you don't) but it's a game that I know I will never touch again in this life.
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>>558522904
>What do you consider to be the better game, Kakarot or Xeno 2?
XV2 desu.
Kakarot is the type of game that you play once and then uninstall until it gets DLC or any sort of update with additional content because there's nothing meaningful to do once you clear the story and the side quests (unless you count fighting buffed versions of Frieza, Cell and Buu as a postgame that is worth your time.)
I played it twice (once on release, and then again at some point after DLC3 aka Future Trunks' DLC came out), and the 2nd playthrough was immensely boring until I hit the 3rd DLC which was basically the only remarkable part of the playthrough (and I feel like there was a fine scene in the 2nd DLC where Vegeta and Kid trunks reenacted the dirty fireworks moment with Friea's fodder or the Ginyu Force or something? Can't rember.)
When/If I jump back to play the other DLC, I'll definitely not do a 3rd playthrough, I'll just reuse one of my other 2 playthroughs' saves.
Meanwhile, Xenoverse 2 has eternal mods (content for multiple lifetimes easily; customization far beyond the base game's, issues that are addressed and that Dimps never fixed themselves, fights on a myriad of different stages with a plethora of different characters and against whatever characters you want, be it from Og, Z, GT, Super, Heroes, literal fanfics like AF, etc) and it's got a fresher concept than "let's go through the story of Dragon Ball Z for the nth time". And Daima's for the 2nd time nowadays, I guess.
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>>558527407
>they're not announcing it as such right now for whatever reason.
Probably because they want to make a formal announcement at some real life event to drum up hype, or wait until they feel that they're ready to show up real non-CGI footage of the game in the WSJ or something like that.
(An alternative situation that's realistically unlikely given the game's been in dev for like 6 years iirc, is that they know that what they have for "a" Xenoverse 3 is solid enough but they're still not 100% absolutely sure if it's the direction they want to go in or if instead they might want to make Age 1000 its own separate thing.)
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>>558543254
>unless you count fighting buffed versions of Frieza, Cell and Buu as a postgame
Why the heck they didn't add ground fights for these 3 baffles me. They had you refight them in the EoZ DLC and it was still with the same old gameplay.
Ground fights should have been added to the whole game and not just a few parts.
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>They had you refight them in the EoZ DLC
Of fucking course.
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Late at night I find myself again...
wondering and **WUTCHING TVVV!!!!!**
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I've beaten DBZ for Kinect and Ultimate Tenkaichi multiple times. Legends was my full time job for about 2 years. I've even willingly tortured myself by replaying LoG 1 and XV1 for muh nostalgia's sake.
I am the definition of someone who will play and force myself to enjoy any game as long as it has the Dragon Ball name on it. I still will not ever even entertain the idea of playing Breakers, not even as a joke. I don't care if there are 5 people out there that love it, the game should have never made past the concept phase. Whoever said 'what if we mixed Dragon Ball with Dead By Daylight' should have been executed on the spot via firing squad.
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such heroes as
>jaco
>red ribbon soldiers
>raspberry
>bandits who bruised goku in that filler episode and drove powerscalers insane
>sorbet and his anti-ssb mood ring
>farmer w/ shotgun
>and the good bulma from og (overpriced battlepass exclusive)
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>>558566491
>the good bulma from og
all she did was whore herself out and fantasize about finding a cute boy. eyebrow raise
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>>558466579
If it turns out that the leak was just some intern fucking around and this game isn't xenoverse 3 i'm sure its gonna fail out of spite.
Also, if it is xenoverse 3 i hope we get more Heroes characters and forms. I also hope that they make it so that your cpu allies and enemies actually transform mid battle. Not the cutscene transform but actually use the transformation mechanic in the game. Hate how db games never get this right.
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>>558567613
but that's exactly the kind of fresh new gameplay we NEED in the hero shooter genre!
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>>558483195
DA Goku's boots change from mini to adult, that's Shenron's actual magic you retard, going SS4 doesn't change his boots. Did you even watch Daima?
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>>558571821
>fi you are okay with the magical dragon magically changing clothes but not the saiyan form magically changing clothes is because the former is canon (even thought none of them are actually canon)
Smartest gtrash right here
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Wait I just realised that there's one DB character with this specific cape design the great demon kings got... Babbidi. Even more obvious with the Kanzenban palette where the cape is white like all others. I guess it makes sense for Babbidi to consider himself the true great demon king of that era, given he was the master of the "legal" monarch of the realm.
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Kadan, Marba and Arinsu for comparison. Regular capes, they don't have that "hood down" thing at the back like the demon kings and Babbidi do so I doubt it's some kind of typical cape design in the demon realm, it's THE demon king style
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That's a neat detail
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I can't wait for my GOAT to become playable
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Super Divers better starts with the crazy what ifs soon because I want my Ultra fusions after Super Kai covers the Granolah arc
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YqDRA60AgNs
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Do you guys think the newer XV models are from age 1000? If so then would they be using them as a base and then working off of them, or would they leave them as-is with (hopefully) some additional tweaks? Or are they just made for Xenoverse 2 in general?
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Left or right?
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>>558637582
Disregard Towa, embrace Kamin.
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I hope Toei goes back to referencing covers for Super Kai because I need pic related to show up in an ending for the Moro arc. Also I need that Goku costume in a game, even if it's Gekishin.
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>>558649635
1. You do realise that's the design the artist herself used for the Bardock manga special?
2. I'm pretty sure Toriyama's Minus design for Bardock never went Super Saiyan.
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>>558649635
Yeah Canonly gets to stay by being better written, better designed, stronger and a cool dude in general, why would he need memes?
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>>558657540
Referencing the covers? You mean like how the openings and endings for DB/Z/GT did?
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>>558660508
>being a crybaby who can barely make a sentence
But enough about Zly who can only speak like a person when his mentally ill other personality shows up.
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>>558657936
I can't get over how cool he looks transformed. SH Broly (base) is probably my least favourite Broly design by far, even worse than shit like SS3 Broly or "UFPS4LB Broly magic enhancement", but SH Broly as SS is possibly my absolute favourite
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I've spent,
8,043$ on getting all Pans on Dokkan.
5,123$ on getting all Pans on Legends.
Since I'm born on the wrong side of the world and can't splurge on Arcade games for Pan, I'm forced to save up all my money (30k) until the next dragon ball gacha project releases.
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>>558686273
With that kind of cheddar, you could hire someone to dress up like Pan and live with you for a few months.
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>>558689724
That episode was so ass and so were the next 7 or 8 ones until Roshi showed up. I don't know what kept kids hooked for that long. Aside from potentially seeing Bulma naked which wasn't really that big a novelty at the time. Most anime back then was practically softcore porn.
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40 years ago...
Peak fiction was born.
40 years later...
And the battle goes on.
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>>558693952
I agree each subsequent series suffers from this same issue to varying degrees. It takes at least 5 episodes for things to get interesting. In Daima's case, 5 episodes was already half the damn show. This would be a death sentence for 99% of other shows and it kinda killed Daima for some but I can understand why the majority of people still stuck around. Kids and adults alike will watch anything with the Dragon Ball name on it nowadays but that name barely existed back then. It was just another kinda funny gag manga that still hadn't hit its stride and shifted into action and excitement yet. It's frankly a miracle that it wasn't cancelled within the first year or two.
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the manga had been running for over a year and I think was deep into the Red Ribbon arc by then. kids knew what was coming up and were willing to watch. the anime also added more fighting scenes in the Pilaf Saga to make it more entertaining.
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Kill yourself.
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>>558702716
Considering that he had an infant sized penis all the way up until he was 15, it's probably pretty small. I know Saiyan puberty is a little different but it's still pretty close to humans. Penis growth typically peaks and plateaus around that age, any inches you gain towards the end of puberty are marginal at best. Basically, if you don't have it by then you never will just like height.
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This looks good for Xenoverse standards but it’s still below Legends and maybe Super Divers. I’d be sad if XV3 is just a slightly cleaner version of this.
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I like to think all of our cacs hang out together when not playing the game, like the troublemakers and Onia are goofing off somewhere, Kocora and Raud are probably off inventing new techniques, that one sayian guy flirting with all the other female saiyans with a couple majin bros as his wingmen or something
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Now that I think of it: besides Zeno is there ANY character in DB who actually universe busts?
So far, the only one who's destroyed a universe is Zeno while all the other characters gets statements they can universe bust at most or the author just shows panels like them shaking the universe like against Beerus which I don't count for universe busting
Not to mention later on MUI Goku's punch just... shakes the entire Earth against Moro
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>>558708760
>besides Zeno is there ANY character in DB who actually universe busts?
Zamasu kinda ate a whole timeline, which was 12 universes.
>Not to mention later on MUI Goku's punch just... shakes the entire Earth against Moro
They can control how much collateral damage they inflict. The SSJG Goku fight was all about how Goku's power jump was so big it was making his control slip, anon.
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Last time I played XV2, the level cap was 99. I can't be bothered to do this hellish grind on all of my CaC especially not the newer ones. Most of them are going to have be killed off or go into retirement. There can only be one legendary Hero of Conton City for the history books anyway so I don't feel too bad. Hopefully there's one big finale raid where everyone gets to go out with a bang before the next game.
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the next cap is 199 too
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>>558714740
This is the only game I've ever seen that is specifically hostile towards returning players. It's remarkable in a way, like a scornful ex-girlfriend that desperately wants you back but also still wants revenge for everything you did during and after the relationship.
>oh look I have a new DLC and it's on sale
>it's got full power jiren just like Sparking Zero and all those other fucking whores you've been with the past few years
>enjoy having your level 100 bussy stretched out by him ahahaha
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>>558466729
>There's no [XENOVERSE 3]
Exactly.
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I wonder what kind of strange era specific oddities XV3 will have. Given that it's probably going to drop as the Moro arc is airing, there's bound to be a good amount of them. I hope that they don't patch them out down the line like they did with the Daima characters being Japanese only. Little things like that are what really make these games memorable in my mind at least.
Eventually, another game is going to have to have a Gohan Black what-if and I'm going to constantly confuse that with Sparking Zero. Just like all the games that have a what if Vegeta went SSJ early mission. Besides Budokai 1, they're all interchangeable. There won't ever be another game where base Goku Black sounds like Freddy Kruger and then suddenly turns British after transforming though. Not unless they're taking the piss lmao
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>Ultra Instinct for Goku
>Ultra Ego for Vegeta
>Beast for Gohan
>Legendary for Broly
Had Raditz been alive and turned good, what would his path to power be? His own "Ultra" form?
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Hitbros...
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I'm eating a donut right now bros.
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>>558744036
There's not much Kamin. Side effect of being an endangered Tuffle.
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Brother, I don't have much more.
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What if the first thing they show us is that CACs hair spikes up when turning super saiyan for age 1000? I feel like the guy in the trailer's hair doing just that was a nod to how fucking pissed off people were and have been about it this whole time sincethe OG xenoverse days, breakers felt like they were testing, the whole thing now makes me think it was a tech demo for what would become age 1000 now that we know it's xv 3, which means, super saiyan 4 cacs may be on the table after all, through I wonder if it'll be GT4 or DM4 or both
I wonder how both would coexist would they use the excuse xenoverse 2 made for it?
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>Thinking about CACs
>Thinking about new hairstyles hoping they have hair physics as well
>Thinking about super saiyan unique spike ups for those hairstyles
>Thinking about having custom heavy attacks, light attacks, throws, mid attacks and combo string attacks
Oh yeah, I think we'll be seeing a brand new surge of CAC autism coming to this board if they show even a fraction of this in april even if the story is going from Radtiz to Gomah to Moro if they can do half of this people won't care
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>super saiyan hair physics
>optional tails with animations for saiyans
>make all transformations realtime for all existing characters. Can play as First Form Frieza and actually go through all his stages in battle
>all the absent character transformations like Super 13, Majin 21, Super Bojack, giant Lord Slug etc
>Great Ape and LSS for CaCs. and tidy up the super saiyan forms so SSG, SSB, and SSBE aren't mutually exclusive
>equipable auras for CaC's for battle, not just a cosmetic for the hub world
These are the main things they'll have in the first trailers if they know what's good for them.
Other things they should do but I wouldn't bet on
>Customizable transformations for Fridges (or all playable clans)
>Daimakai (includes different kinds of majins), Jinzoningen (including androids, bio-androids, Machine Mutants and Neo-Tuffles), Alien (including Hera clan, Heata clan, Dodoria's people, Cui's, and all the rest), and Bestfolk added to playable races
>alternate fighting styles, if not straight up 'learn your mentors normals' then broader archetypes like 'speedster', 'big n strong', sword user, staff user, gun user, psychic, crane style, turtle style
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I'm guessing the glaze they gave the Beast and S. Broly's super saiyan awakenings is indicative of what to expect from all awakenings in AGE10000
They know they are gonna get compared with Sparking Zero on every little thing and failing to meet those standards will hurt sales a lot
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>>558783567
For all of SZ’s faults, it does have pretty great transformation sequences. All though some of them, like Jiren’s do that xenoverse thing where they charge and then it jarringly cuts to the new model.
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>>558783732
I was actually surprised how good second and third form frieza’s transformations look. I still don’t know why they’re able to do that, but Goku’s hair can’t slowly flow up as he’s transforming like in the anime.
I’m curious to see how Xenoverse 3 would handle it if Frieza's race got more than one form given all the assets and height changes and stuff.
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>>558793757
Idk why people are putting so much stock in this. I think the XV models being similar to the silhouettes we saw in the trailer may be something to think about, but as far as this goes, it’s just some YouTube intern from Southeast Asia. If it was Japan I’d get it.
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I really hope age 1000 isn’t Xenoverse 3, or if it is then it’s a reboot like sparking zero. I know they’ve been working on it for 7 years, but for the life of me, I just can’t picture a version of Xenoverse with an actually interesting story.
I’d want something like Dragon Ball Online with a few what-if characters like in heroes thrown in every now and then.
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Rymusbros?? Are we finally getting our backstory???
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I hope so. One of the things I hate about Xenoverse is that they ignore the other universes. The demon realm bullshit is actively involving 6 and 11 in it and they're still pretty much boxed out.
I don't expect them to do a LOT with it, but including a few races here and there and involving the gods and SKs and angels shouldn't be too much to ask for. Heroes had no problem doing it, and it's not like Super is using them.
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>>558793757
Speak english, you numbskull. Plus, what makes you think XV3 couldn't be an MMO? Conton City is already multiple times larger than Toki-Toki City, so it'd make sense that XV3's hub could be even bigger than that. And with Toriyama at the helm, he'd probably want Dimps to create a whole world to explore just like with Kakarot.
The reason DBO failed was because it had slow monotonous gameplay and was pretty derivative of WoW, but having an MMO with Xenoverse's high-flying gameplay could be fucking exponential!
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>>558805361
Salagir fucked up by making only potential matter.
>canon Bejita ties with evil Bejita even though he certainly trained a lot more than evil Bejita did
>SS2 Bra will shit all over SS3 evil Bejita
Doesn't feel like anything really matters.
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>>558807037
It failed because it didn't release officially outside of Korea and China.
Western world would carry it so hard, we can already see the passion for DBO from fan-developers who continue adding new stuff to this day.
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There's something that bothers me with modern DB, and that's the power scaling but for a different reason. In the original DB manga, when the next arc came around the corner, we know without a shadow of a doubt that the heroes surpassed the preceding antagonist, the power balance moved and it was unambiguous. But in modern DB, the writers leave it as ambiguous as they can be in order to preserve the status quo. Nevermind the fact that Goku and Vegeta still hasn't surpassed Beerus as of to this day, they haven't even surpassed Jiren as of late. Appaarently, Jiren's Ki control and power is still a benchmark for Goku and Vegeta to surpass even in Super Hero.
Toriyama and Toyotaro are maintaining that no mortal cleanly surpasses Jiren, that's why Goku had to outmove him and not overpower him, because MUI is not a regular form. And Toyotaro confirmed that Black Frieza is stronger than Goku, Vegeta, Gohan, Piccolo AND Broly.
Gohan's Beast Form also drains him quickly but he hits all at once against Goku. He can't sustain that level of force, so Jiren wins in raw endurance and consistency and is knocked the second Gohan gets winded.
Why is the writing all over the place in modern DB when it comes to power scaling?
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>Appaarently, Jiren's Ki control and power is still a benchmark for Goku and Vegeta to surpass even in Super Hero.
That's because Goku can't use UI at will in the continuity that actually matter. Outside of that Goku surpassed everyone from previous arcs pretty clearly.
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>>558829689
Retardbro... you know the manga arc they are adapting in your beloved non-canon anime format takes place before SH, right? You can't escape from Goku mastering UI against the goat, you can only cry. And don't get me wrong you are very good at crying but that won't really help you here
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>>558828352
The manga actually has Toyotaro spell out that, in spite of what it may have looked like visually, Jiren didn't really take any serious damage from Goku and Vegeta. He also was never knocked down or anything, he just got ringed out through trickery.
Gohan himself admitted that he can't properly use Beast (yet) without losing his sanity, and so, he only takes his power close to the edge but not at full power to beat Goku but that's a temporary solution to draw out his power. Gohan was also clearly exhausted afterwards.
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>>558830284
>Call people retarded
>Doesn't understand that his headcanon for an anime that's not even released yet isn't gonna change a movie that came out years ago
>Think talking like a sassy gay man will make people forget the manga is a promotional monthly ad and was announced as such from the start
Not even worth humiliating.
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>>558830758
>it's an actual, unironical jirentard
That explains everything. It's okay I have faith you will eventually learn to read (actually read not just recognize letters and words). Someday.
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>>558830758
>Gohan himself admitted that he can't properly use Beast (yet) without losing his sanity
I hate when Toyotaro force in dumb shit he got from twitter like that.
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>>558832341
I'd rather have a mix of DBO and DBH. I have literally no faith they could pull off the timeline thing and that's even assuming they aren't lying about bringing Toriyama aboard.
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>>558831179
Vegeta's words. Apparently, Jiren didn't take any serious damage from Goku and Vegeta. And we actually see that too, because he tanked their strongest attacks at point-blank.
Manga Jiren also basically out-strongs MUI Goku. He continues raising his power to the point he's fighting MUI to a standstill, and actively tiring Goku out as his body automatically counters, until he drops out of the form.
>>558831237
>I hate when Toyotaro force in dumb shit he got from twitter like that.
It's all really just an excuse so that the heroes has some flaws to their powers that need workarounds. Otherwise, it'll be an insta-win button but yeah, it's pretty shitty too.
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>>558831089
So you are saying that the manga Toei has decided to make an anime adaptation of is somehow a promo for the anime... the anime adapting the manga. And you say without any source they will change specifically the part that triggers you just so Goku never masters UI because you somehow think "Jiren used his ki better than Goku/Vegeta" means "Goku can't possibly know how to use UI at will now".
Not even worth the (You) but I'm generous so you get one last reply until your ban expires.
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>>558833430
/dbs/ is that way and we're glad that pointing out your habit of running here whenever you're banned or bullied out still hurt you so much.
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>>558832817
>It's all really just an excuse so that the heroes has some flaws to their powers that need workarounds.
Which is again some shit he got from twitter or more 'modern' manga like Naruto or JJK who like to pretend their abilities have rulesets despite those changing and being ignored at will.
>Otherwise, it'll be an insta-win button but yeah, it's pretty shitty too.
Toriyama never had that problem despite never acting like a wannabe game-dev with what he gives to the characters tho.
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>>558869791
I meant Kale since that happened to her twice. Kamin could just goop out of there.
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Guys, I'm looking for an old /dbs/ shitpost.
It was literally just Toriyama picking the colors of the next big Dragon Ball transformation and the bottom was just some fanboy over explaining how it's genius.
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>>558807539
>Salagir fucked up by making only potential matter.
And even that is arbitrary. Pan in particular shows he only gives out potential to his favorites
>Be Pan
>Born from post Buu saga Gohan
>Gohan's own power never decreased
>He's so powerful that Goku and Vegeta still haven't surpassed him 20 years later
>Vegetto's Bra has immense potential because she's his daughter
>Following that logic Pan should also have immense potential
>Instead she's about as strong as Buu saga Goten and Trunks
>Despite being twice their age
>Only achieved super saiyan as a 14 year old, making her into the oldest hybrid who got super saiyan
>This despite training with fucking Goku since she was a toddler
Uub is like that too. He's Buu's reincarnation but only matches up to SS1 Goku, and needs Kaioken to surpass that, meaning Uub is the weakest Buu ever, despite being the only one who trains.
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There was also SP's Goji proving to be enough of a threat that Getter Emperor was ready to step in over in the most recent Super Robot Wars.
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>>558619829
Left is hot and can actually throw hands with a SSJ Gohan post-Cell and her race has their own version of the Super Saiyan. Right is cute, but weak and only around Nappa/Ginyu Force level as per Toyotaro. So if you want stronger children, Zangya is the answer.
Also, I'm surprised by how Zangya still keeps getting fanart while Macki gets so little by comparison.
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>>558904979
There's a Multiverse timeline where Goku and Gohan fuse, fuck Videl, and produce a Pan capable of going SS3. I guess in Salagirverse you only get the crazy potential if your dad is a fusion, base Vegito was stronger than Ultimate Gohan.
Uub was definitely fucked over though, Salagir got his base level wrong, he should be somewhere around Kid Buu's level.
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Question for power scalers, if you were autistic and retarded enough to take this seriously what will you do with Super "kai" now? You will have to unlearn everything from here basically so you don't get retarded stuff like "Krillin and 18 are SS Vegito tier after having so much sex after RoF " again
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chances of her showing up in the next SZ wave?
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>>558901073
This is so boring and I don't even like Vegeta.
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>>558917354
People out there already scale manga, anime, and Kai feats, similar to how they argue whether Super (OG) is a continuation of the manga, anime, or Kai. Super Kai just gives fans even more powerscaling and canon shit to argue about, like with Daima.
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Nobody scales Kai separatedly from Z, and they aren't even that different. From the trailer alone the new Super anime is gonna be way different than the old one so you will certainly have to forget everything and see how it looks in the new version and keep track of what they add or remove
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>Krillin and 18 are SS Vegito tier after having so much sex after RoF
I don't follow power scaling what the fuck is this in reference to?
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>>558926803
i'd presume because they've got literally no other reason to be that powerful suddenly when every other character that jumped to that level for the ToP has an excuse (like 17 and his cell jrs)
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>>558926803
18 fighting equally with 17, who could fight around SSJB Goku's level and Krillin fighting equally with 18.
That would actually make them insanely above SSJ Vegetto, who's absolute fodder from the moment Goku went SSJG.
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>>558927006
>i'd presume because they've got literally no other reason to be that powerful
Which is retarded because Krillin had a whole arc about unretiring and then reaching greater heights in that forest mini-arc with Goku.
>(like 17 and his cell jrs)
That's manga-only and retarded, it's better to just handwave it as 17 doing shit offscreen.
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>>558926293
>Nobody scales Kai separatedly from Z
Nobody scales Kai at all honestly.
>>558927006
>when every other character that jumped to that level for the ToP has an excuse
Nobody in the TOP had any 'excuse'. Only Roshi went 'I trained in secret because Goku and Krillin proved I was a faggot for giving up'.
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>17 and his cell jrs
the hwat now?
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>>558928328
incredible
bravo toyo
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>>558917354
Deleting Saiyan Beyond God fixes every problem people have with Super's powerscaling. It's the whole reason people think Cabba buttrapes SS4 Gogeta.
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>>558929013
>think
There's no 'think', he does.
>every problem
There is no problem. Constantly going back and forth on the character's strength is dogshit idea. Once a level is reached, they either stay there or go up.
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I mean if you want to get technical, the first Kaiju to get a proper "Super" state was King Kong. Hell, he got it before Dragon Ball even existed.
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>>558931101
I disagree, I think people just forget how 'absurd' the power jumps in OG and Z were due to years of only remembering the events through video games.
Like 18 vs Trunks was one of the biggest no sell in the Franchise alongside SSJ4 Gogeta.
Try to 'balance it' or 'dial it back' feels too 'video-gamey' to me rather than narratively driven.
Daima did it WAY better than the DBS manga or what most fans want IMO.
Also having Vegeta still be Buu arc level 3 arcs after the Buu arc is just boring and pretty dumb.
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>>558933335
A shit ton of stuff happened between the Saiyan and Buu sagas. Literally nothing happens in Super, especially if you skip straight to the U6 arc after the movies. All of Vegeta's training is done off-screen and his on-screen training from the anime isn't that impressive either. He does chores, lifts stuff, spars once or twice and bam! He's a god now or whatever. It's stupid.
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>>558941360
>Literally nothing happens in Super
A GoD showed up, introduced a whole multiverse and an Angel above him with untold martial art knowledge who took Goku and Vegeta under his wing, we then saw their training.
Then Freeza came back stronger than even said SSJG power, making Goku and Vegeta reveal the fruit of their training that made them unlock SSJB.
Then another GoD from said introduced multiverse showed up and challenged their universe with his own team of the strongest in HIS universe.
That's a lot that happened.
If anything Vegeta trained more on-screen in Super than at any point in Z. People forget how much training is offscreen entirely, especially since the anime added some stuff showing you some training that just don't happen in the manga.
>He does chores, lifts stuff, spars once or twice and bam!
You need to rewatch the show becauise Vegeta basically spent ungodly amount of time living at Whis and Beerus's place and had several years long training sessions in the ROSAT, there is no 'bam!'.
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>>558913494
>Uub was definitely fucked over though, Salagir got his base level wrong, he should be somewhere around Kid Buu's level.
Salagir just fucking loves his multipliers and also wants to keep things "grounded" so Uub is just kind of around SS level until he uses Kaioken even though it makes no sense
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>>558909337
They really just made "movie 18 but vastly stronger and cuter" huh.
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>>558942858
>"grounded"
Cue infinite gravity blackhole (complete nonsense) that Broly just tanks just because (but still die to nanobot goo).
Also it's funny Beerus could have just one shot the entire story but he found the tournament boring and just left.
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It wouldn't because the anime still had endless SSB spam. Remember Goku went SSB to kick away Ribrianne and she wasn't even hurt, the same Ribrianne not fast enough to hit SS Vegeta and the same fat bitch who jobs to android 18 after a power up.
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>>558927162
>the forest miniarc is how Krillin went from human tier who couldn't even touch any Cell arc android to stronger than Vegito
are you fucking insane?
>it's better to just handwave it as 17 (the character who says he never trains) doing shit offscreen
holy shit you are
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>>558959740
>weird worship
What the fuck are you even talking you schizo?? You are the one saying Krillin only has to get over his fears to go from weaker than any Cell form to stronger than every character in the OG manga
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>>558959690
Your explanation sucked, Toyotaro, get over it.
>>558959804
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>>558960776
>okay it makes no sense but just let it be okay??
Good job SSJuan, keep trying and some day you will convince people DBS Krillin is stronger than every single character here
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>>558961682
Why do you always have the worst take, weirdest headcanons and always pick fights over them, SSsperg? Can't you go seethe about everyone still using SSJ somewhere else? You'll never be white BTW.
I can't imagine your meltdown when Krillin went from below Roshi to stronger than 6 Raditz (Just joking, you clearly didn't read the manga at all).
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This fanbase has been insulting SS3 for a decade for le dumb memes, but when it's suddenly in the spotlight again, they act like hypocrites and "WOAH BEJITA TURNED SS3 HOW COOL!! EPIC!!"
Likewise for SSJ4 Gogeta, if he were to return he would fodderize the crap nonsense from Super. But this fanbase and their retarded memes think they know better.
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>>558964676
Cabba is a pathetic fodder, that meme never had any meaning.
>>558964676
>SSJ4 Gogeta from GT would probably [headcanon]
Nice for the games to put him equal with SSB Gogeta then. I'll take their word over the Super fanboys.
SSG Goku is the most overrated damn form ever, jobbed in it's debut.
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Ace, the time patroller of xenoverse 1 has red hair as back then the newest form was super saiyan god
Mee, the time patroller of xenoverse 2 has blue hair as back then the newest form was super saiyan blue
John, the time patroller of xenoverse 3 has silver hair as now the newest form is ultra instinct mastered
Hmph, such foolishness, did they really think they could fool people that easily or did they simply want to say it without saying it? Either way, this will not be forgiven, punishment will be dealt out accordingly, my pride simply won't allow you to walk away unscathed, prepare yourself!
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I'm baaaaack.
https://youtu.be/1A81qmSVdYg?si=6N2xDMwTDiKITksc&t=308
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See this discussion is what I was referring to, what if Goku doesn't absorb SSG like is rumoured? What will the guy who thinks Krillin surpassed SSG by seeing illusions in a forest when that filler is cut? You guys will have to relearn the scale or do the only reasonable thing to do (ignore it)
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The thing about Krillin's "transformation" in DB Super that fascinates me is that it's just so bizarre. Ryu in Street Fighter has the Power of Nothingness which granted had a much better look with the "Good" aura compared to the one Evil Ryu has had over the years. Then 8 years later, some random episode of DB Super copies it in a filler episode, and it's never brought up again.
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So it's confirmed to be XV3 (sorry, denialtards), someone talked about joining the project back in 2020 and apparently it was delayed because graphically it was too similar to XV2 and thus they redid all the graphics from the scratch to deliver a really good looking game this time, not limited by PS4 capacities
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>>558983512
where's this coming from dude?
>>558976691
power of nothingness? is that what finally ended the plotline of trying to get him to fall to the satsui no hado?
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>>558986668
>is that what finally ended the plotline of trying to get him to fall to the satsui no hado?
In Street Fighter 4, yes. Street Fighter 5 kept it going in a laughably bad way, (Introducing Kage) as well as the fact Akuma is so damn strong he one taps the second best fighter no matter what gets introduced.
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>you can spend real money to defeat the point of the game!!
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While it's true seeing GTards seethe over fucking Cabbe of all people some retards actually think base Vegeta is Vegetto tier after RoF, for me it's more fun trying to guess who is doing it for the meme and who actually thinks Winnie the Pooh could oneshot every DBZ villain with one hand
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>who actually thinks Winnie the Pooh could oneshot every DBZ villain with one hand
That was the thing with Botamo. He could wall them all, but we never actually see his attack potency. Also Saiyan Beyond God Vegeta makes Vegito his bitch.
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>sparking zero is about to release
>people remember they can make all sorts of unlikely-to-meet characters beat the hell out of each other
>Cabba and SS4 Gogeta pop up
>Cabba looks anorexic and acts like an insecure beta in almost every scene he’s in
>despite that, and being outclassed by Goku and Vegeta, he’s an elite fighter
>powerscaling dictates that everyone in GT has long since been surpassed, so the strongest character in it, SS4 Gogeta, would be effortlessly solo’d by Cabba
It’s funny because Cabba looks like a malnourished 12 year old and he acts like Deku, but he’d make GT Gogeta his bitch. And GTfags getting genuinely mad about it made it even funnier.
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>>559018896
Powerscalers fling shit at each other over how strong Super's characters are. Taken to one extreme, this means Cabba in base solos GT with ease, which becomesa shitpost. The GTfags hate this and freak out, seething over a blatant shitpost, making people post it more.
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No he wouldn't. Tha was and always will be a retarded headcanon considering GT happens post EoZ and thus post-Uub.
Dehyping GT means you dehype Uub. Because Uub is the same in GT as he is in Super, nothing about him changes. Or is he suddenly not Buu's reincarnation in GT?
>he's an elite fighter
In his own jobber planet.
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This is EXACTLY why the base Cabba memes kept veing posted. Those with no sense of humor can't handle the absurdity of powerscaling.
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It's okay, he has the backup he'll need. He'll win.
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It's okay. Gogeta may lose, but Pan will win (through seduction).
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You would be too, after the first round.
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The weakest Super character can mog the apex GT fighter, that's all there's to it.
It's also making fun of how dogshit both power scaling both series have while the target audience is making a serious fuss over it.
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Listen to me nigger. I know how to grind for levels in the game. I simply do not want to. I have no motivation to do so other than to play ball bustingly hard and tedious PQs that give me no satisfaction. The game is old but not that old, it's still being supported right now. I'm not nostalgic enough for it yet to put myself through this hell. If I was in the mood for a grind, I'd go slam my head against the wall trying to beat 10 million Coolers in Tenkaichi 2 or Kid Buu in Budokai 2 again.
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You keep describing to me the convoluted way I'm supposed to grind levels like I don't know how to do it. I do! I was doing it until I got bored of it. Like I said, I started at level 99 and I was doing nothing but grinding TP medals and Dragon Balls to level up. That was over the course of several days just to get to 107.
I wanted to return to the game after several years but this is a barrier of entry that makes me not want to. If you were able to read a reply chain, you would understand that this is my point. The game has been out for 10 years but it is still being supported and treated as a modern game. It got a massive next gen overhaul and countless QoL changes less than 2 years ago but at no point did they even consider changing how grinding levels works.
That's because it's by design. They want you to spend real money to skip this bullshit and I would if I didn't already spend $100 on DLC that I can't even play. If all you do is play this game 24/7, it makes sense to put that effort into grinding. However, as someone returning after a few years I feel shafted.
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Never underestimate the power of a French guy and his raging boner for his waifu
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if the rumors about xenoverse 3 are real then outfit aside people will be able to make her in that game, maybe not one for one but the chia pet super saiyan hairstyle is in breakers and her face is bulmas which already exists in the first 2 games so people will be able to spike up as her, sadly they won't be able to spike up as Note, there are no official hairstyles of a super saiyan with a ponytail even Kefla's barely exists after she transforms just like Kale's stops existing
by the way, breakesr had custom super saiyan 4s with daima being the hottest thing right now and xenoverse 3 releasing next year odds are that form is gonna be doable in game for CACs as we know officially they do have the fur on their legs so people will finally have their monkey girls
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The fingers add a lot to it.
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>A frog in the 90s saw this and deiced to make her his waifu for laifu.
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>>559050890
the fact he saw her and decided to make a saiyan warrior completely different to the original under her name his waifu is honestly an interesting story in itself
it's one thing to make an OC, but another to mold one from a character that had little more than 'weirdly mature-looking for her age, likes to shop' as her characteristics
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>>559054018
Toriyama forgot, but Toei had to have known. I think they were just confused by the design they got back from him and rolled with it as best they could. One thing that's stayed incredibly consistent over the years is that Bulla's a washboard. There's no other teenage to adult-aged girl in the series that doesn't have at least some kind of bust. Even Chronoa and Aeos have boobs in their normal states. Bulla's got nothing because that's the one area of her everyone's decided upon that should match her age.
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>>559050741
Teleportation is bullshit no matter how you slice it. That's why it makes the most sense for the Bullshit Man himself to have exclusive access to it. Goku suddenly being able to teleport and it just kinda being glossed over by everyone besides Vegeta is one of the most underrated gags in the series. It's also a great showcase of Toriyama actually understanding his characters and the world they inhabit unlike others who have tried to write them.
Instant Transmission is just another tool in Goku's massive bag of tricks he has collected in his decades long martial arts journey. That doesn't mean he would forget it exists, he's just not the kind of guy that would use it as a crutch. He and by extension, the story save its usage for key moments of strategy like his Warp Kamehameha against Cell. Later material and fanfiction (not much of a difference these days) forgets that and has him spamming left and right in fights.
This obviously completely takes the read out of the narrative and makes them ask why doesn't just teleport all of his enemies into the sun. It's because that's something Vegeta would do. If he had all of Goku's tricks he would abuse them and take the most violent and brute force approach, that's why he shouldn't have them.
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>makes them ask why doesn't just teleport all of his enemies into the sun.
Because he need someone to teleport to and there's nobody on the sun.
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>>559058658
>Bulma's daughter
>Looks identical to Bulma in every way
>Is a flattie
I get the feeling this is the only thing she got from Vegeta's side.
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Pan had a boyfriend THOUGH.
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1 month remains until the battle hour, what exactly are we going to do this month? kakarot and breakers are over, xenoverse 2 isn't having a big event like another festival nor will they have a trailer for future saga, that's being saved for the battle hour, FighterZ whose even still playing that? Anime information won't start coming out until Jump feista Beerus isn't airing til then
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Retards think saiyan beyond god is still canon and thus think base Goku and base Vegeta in the Champa arc are as strong as if they were transformed into SSG, which means anyone relative to their base form in strength would be stronger than every single character even shown in the original manga.
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I feel like every dragonball fanfic has to have some kind of situation where pan gets taken hostage. It's just odd that this doesn't involve gohan I guess. Narratively I supppose this is supposed to be about Bra attempting to redeem herself to pan but her pan is dead so lol?
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>>559102997
Everybody always talks about models, but never facial expressions when they matter just as much, and are definitely more in danger of being underwhelming if not flat out wonky if the game sticks with Xenoverse's real time combat.
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Salagir fundamentally misunderstands how the setting works. The only characters who are allowed to be strong are his OCs and he has the wrong view on "potential" in Dragon Ball. Like how potential is only determined how fast you could grow through training, like Gohan will get better gains than Goku during the same training session
In Multiverse however, there are hard caps that limit how strong you could grow. Multiverse Goku will never be able to surpass Ultimate Gohan, so all his training is a waste I guess. This gets ridiculous, Vegito is scared of a potential SSJ3 Bra. What? You are VEGITO. What's Vegito's potential then?
Training is useless in Multiverse. All that matters is having LSSJ (Broly gets infinite growth), Absorption (Zen Buu is a god), and Magic (just a fuck you to everything Dragon Ball). Potential is too random, someone like Cell should be broken but Majin-amped Cell is Bra's bitch, and it seems he always will be
Also, Salagir is such a midwit that he doesn't understand how gravity works, and he genuinely thinks that the sun has 330,000 times Earth's gravity because it has 330,000 times the mass.
But in reality, it's only got 28x Earth's gravity
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on the gravity point, it's not like DBZ is particularly consistent on that point either. you can't just "increase gravity" in a contained space, and blowing up the moon would have potentially apocalyptic consequences for society.
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>>559111537
Is she actually stealing Piccolo's move after pulling this shit on him?
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>>559111537
Multiverse still SUCKS because PEDOlagir and his pedo artist Asura care more about their darling underage waifu (Bra) than anything else in the comic.
Literally just Chris-Chan if Sonichu succeeded.
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As a XV2 fan, I understand making an entire story around your...OC, i'd do it too if I could draw.
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Yeah but you don't see people unironically posting Sonichu panels and having intense, hours long debates about the content of the story in a Sonic or Pokemon general.
It really doesn't matter if fanfic's gone bad or become less popular than it once was. If people are still talking about after 10+ years later, the creators did something right and succeeded in their own way.
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>someone like Cell should be broken
If anything, Cell is too strong, since he's maybe stronger than Gohan, and the setting has a massive hard cap around Gohan's level, so Cell managed to surpass a level of power that Goku and Vegeta hadn't managed to reach in 20 years.
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>>559130827
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>>559131151
for good measure on the 18 shitposting.
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Wait if that 18 is from an era where she's already married to Krillin why the fuck is she wearing those clothes? Xenoshit is so fucking soulless
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>>559131427
>Serious answer
Because it's her most iconic outfit and they don't care about continuity. They also don't want to imply that someone's available if they're in a canonical relationship.
>Non-serious answer
She'll wear whatever you tell her to wear.
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Considering it's an 18 married to Krillin, I do find it funny that they chose to make her submit to your desires to wear a bikini specifically because (You) want to see her in it. They could have just had her say "Hey, thanks for the gift" and not gone into that but they chose to characterize her as her submitting to wearing what she views as an embarrassing/skimpy outfit for (You) to look at.
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>Krillin watching from the background as 18 slips into a bikini for you
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So many people don't seem to realize that when Whis talked about Beerus having a type Goku and Vegeta should be aware of, he was talking about Bulma.
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Something like this but better than the crappy Gohan hairdo we've got
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>>559148819
That is a good amount of floof hair for a monkey. We really need stuff like that. Also something like Forte's hair in Heroes.
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What is the possibility they add new races? Should they add a Glind race? They can be any color, as we've seen throughout the series but it seems all of them have mohawks or some type of hairstyle that leaves them bald looking with the only exception to that being Kibito, he's got a lovely full head of hair and Arasu who despite the stupid looking hairstyle has full hair and that one girl kai in Shin/Narhare's group, she had long hair but was bald on the sides her hairstyle is in xenoverse if you need an example
the real issue for them is an awokening form, the closest thing to that is zamasu's halo, I'm ignoring anything heroes did since it wasn't canon.
if toriyama was involved in 3 i wonder if he came up with anything for humans and majins to have, Piccolo's lime and orange forms should suffice for the namkikan race but humans have nothing and I don't like the idea of them transforming
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It's so fucking absurd how we know of TWENTY SEVEN fucking individual glinds (sixteen of them with their own names revealed, even) but we got more Freeza's race representation, despite said race being only four mutant niggas from an otherwise normal random species
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According to the official site we got more "Super" news coming soon
>other Super Kai arcs announcements
>Super manga final arc
>one last Super movie as Toriyama's parting gift
>maybe multiple options. Maybe all of them
We are eating good
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>>559184291
Nigger what the fuck are you talking about Toyotaro is still employed as the series is still legally serialized, he needs the heads up to keep going after Toriyama's death, and he doesn't decide if Toei gets to adapt the manga but if he did that would mean he just did the same as Toriyama did originally? Letting Toei adapt their manga? And Toriyama and Iyoku were on the same page? The same Iyoku who announced they had decided to animate the manga's Moro arc? So basically Toriyama and Iyoku were in for making an improved Super anime before continuing with with an adaptation of Toriyama and Toyotaro manga? Seriously what are you even saying man did you watch too many youtube videos or what? Next you are gonna tell me they betrayed and trapped Sasuke just as he was going to write DBS SH2
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>>559134107
Best: they confirm the Sparking dlc will include every single cut character and stage from 3 and at least 15 brand new ones
Worst: they confirm that what we saw in the previous trailer is all we are getting
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Ok the contrary, I'm getting the sinking feeling saiyans and humans will get merged into one race, cutting one from the lineup
Not just because of Online inspiration, given the new S Cell lore, and the super ant thing from Super Hero, they won't even need Shenron awakening Saiyan blood in this one
And I really don't want that
I like the racism, characters being baffled the underdog race can keep up, the open endedness of Saiyan origins, be it past, alternative timelines or future hybrids
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Outside of the ones we have, I don't think we need more races. I want a glind race, and that'd probably be the only other race besides Saiyan I'll actually play as but even that's a take it or leave it for me.
They need to focus on the races they already have. Saiyans get treated the best and the transformations for them still suck hard. Not just talking about the grind fest from SSG onwards, either. I want Age 1000 to make your transformations tie into the storyline.
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Artificial being should 100% be its a race, the customization could even let you make something like Baby or Cell so it doesn't just become a third "it's just human"
Honestly an alien race also has some potential, there are a lot of different looking characters from the TOP that they could take inspiration for moves, transformations and customization options, could even see them adding in the Heeter stuff like the berserk form as a DLC pack for when the Granola movie drops
Because of Online I could see them adding furries because of the Red Pants that if I remember it right is made of 99% beastmen so they would have the models for them to use
Well there is the thing that furries actually show up as earthlings and many aliens so they could just he a customization option for some races instead of their own race
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I thought Bojack was Belmod for a moment. Would be hilarious to see him playable in Sparking Zero, desu.
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I hope they eventually release "Super - End" versions of Goku and Vegeta in SZ future DLC because it's absurd how their Super selves get shoved into one single branch of characters each. GT? Okay sure, the first arc is barely a joke, the second has Goku unchanged except for a form and the third and four happen right after, Goku doesn't even have time to train or do new stuff, but Super? Super has
>the movies introducing SSG and SSB
>Champa arc as the first new arc
>FT arc soon after and without significant changes, makes sense to have the same Goku/Vegeta as in the Champa arc
>ToP arc, Super is twice as long as GT already, Goku gets two new forms even separated in the roster
>GP arc, Goku masters the two new forms and pulls out the spirit giant, Vegeta could still get new moves by now
>Granolah arc, Goku's UI Sign changes, Vegeta gets Hakai in all forms and learns UE too
They really should make "Goku (Super-End)" with SSB, UI-S and UI and "Vegeta (Super-End)" with SSB, SSBE and UE.
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Roshi and Chichi both need to be in Xenoverse 2. Roshi's got a few moves he can teach to our CaCs, and Chichi could be brought in just to have Kakarot's cooking system in this game that acts as battle buffs.
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I want a game that's like Kakarot but in reverse. A true Dragon Ball Super game that doesn't retread Z material at all. This era deserves a chance to breathe and stand on its own like every other series has except Daima(for now). Even though everyone hated GT when it was airing, it still got its own game completely to itself. It was terrible but you can look back and say GT got its own game. Original Dragon Ball got its own game on the Wii. No one played it but you can say it exists. Battle of Gods, an hour long movie got its own game and if Xenoverse didn't unexpectedly sell crack and steal the entire video game budget, RoF would've gotten its own game too.
Dragon Ball Fucking Evolution has its own video game and what does Super have besides lame DLC in XV2? UI Goku, Jiren and all the other hot new characters are plastered on Sparking Zero's cover and it's promoted as this 'Dragon Ball Super experience' but then you actually play through the Super sections of the story and it feels tacked on and half baked. It's an afterthought, that's all Super has ever been and it's not fair. Every era of Dragon Ball deserves respect.
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>Super End Goku gets the Buu arc clothes, the same gi but with the GP mark, then with the Whis mark, then the BR/SH movie gi with the Go kanji and EoZ clothes, also different costumes change Sign to "true" UI
>base with Ultra Movement, Barrier, Super Kamehameha, Dragon Blast and ...
>SSB with Ultra Movement, Power Up to the Very Limit, God Kamehameha, a combo based on how he brutalized Saganbo and Instant Transmission God Kamehameha
>Sign is the same as normal now connected to the new Super End Goku but with post-Moro arc clothes Even Greater Potential changes to Instant Transmission and Kamehameha Sign changes to Chou Makouhou
>UI is the same as normal now connected ot the new Super End Goku but with post-ToP arc clothes Ultra Barrage changes to God Bind Fist (the Moro punch) and Supreme Kamehameha changes to an attack with the giant energy avatar
>Super End Vegeta gets the Cell arc clothes, the same armor but with the GP mark, the yardrat armor, the Buu arc clothes and the EoZ clothes, plus a toggleable gold earpiece
>base with Meditation, All Warmed Up, Galick Rush, Gamma Burst Flash and SpiritFissionBomb
>SSB with Explosive Wave, Prince's Pride, Galick Gun, some new combo and Maximum Final Flash
>SSBE with Saiyan Burst, Power Up to the Very Limit, God Final Flash, Spirit Breaking Cannon and Final Shine Attack
>UE with Wild Move, Hakai Aura, Ultra Galick Gun, new combo based on his fight with Granolah and Super Large Sphere of Destruction
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no but its indicative of their attitudes
Toriyama used gore and grievous injury sparingly, when they mattered for the narrative and even still was restrained enough that you could show it to older kids for a real punch. Freiza getting sliced in half had one dangly bit and that's all you need to sell how fucked up he is. Multiverse seems to throw it around constantly in some attempt at seeming mature but loses the plot on why it's important.
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>I think it's also an attempt to show the powergap / how strong the characters is like they do in capeshit or Invincible.
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Which is my point, it shows their attitude towards story telling that it will consistently have matchups like that and force them to be extra gory. 4th form frieza didn't turn Vegeta into bloody chunks, goku didn't turn the ginyus into gibs, it requires a specific attitude and power difference which is story relevant instead of just having every major fight get rendered into chum.
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>it requires a specific attitude and power difference which is story relevant instead of just having every major fight get rendered into chum.
Yup, exactly. No matter how much stronger Goku or Gohan are than their opponent, they'd never one shot them into bloody chunks.
How a character fight and the kind of injuries they inflict during a fight, even to the death, represent them in Dragon Ball and Goku and Gohan are just not like that.
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>SS3 is meant to evoke the giant monkey form in the saiyans' genes
>is sometimes depicted with pupils
>SS4, the "golden giant monkey in humanoid form" power, is created also with pupils (just golden this time)
>eventually SSG is created and has pupils despite being unrelated to the others, odd case here
>many years later Toriyama creates the "giant monkey in humanoid form" power for Broly, it has golden eyes with pupils like SS4
>before dying Toriyama also envisions a new SS4. His monkey hair and eyes look like SSG's
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>SS4, the "golden giant monkey in humanoid form" power
That's what triggers me about GT's SS4
>noooo it doesn't look like SS-2-3 because it's actually something unrelated, it's Great Ape 3, we just call it SS4 for convenience!
But SS-2-3 were already connected to Great Ape even if not in a linear fashion, and the form before GTSS4, "Great Ape 2" (Golden Great Ape) DID look related to SS-2-3, so the problem isn't that GTSS4 doesn't seem to be related to SS3 and is actually Great Ape 3, the problem is that it doesn't look related to either previous form, it doesn't matter if it comes after (golden) Great Ape 2 or SS3, changing to which form GTSS4 is wrongly connected doesn't fix the problem.
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I don't think he'll appreciate it, but okay
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>>559235179
roshi can be a fighter in xenoverse 2 if the devs can give him a turtle shell jetpack.
chi chi can also be a playable fighter if the devs use her Super Dragon Ball Z move set and either have her fly on nimbus or use a jetpack
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>>559272134
>vegeta explodes saibaman into guts
>dodoria rips namekians limb from limb
>frieze becomes mincemeat
>gero rips man's head off in manga
>babidi has father and mother torn to pieces by his goons in manga
>*crickets*
>gohan tears nappa apart like tissue paper because his power level is 1 billion times greater
>OMG SALAD GEAR IS SO EDGY THIS IS NOT ACCEPTABLE IN MY WHOLESOME REDDIT CHUNGUS GAG MANGA!!!
You fags are annoying.
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KEK retards
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>>559336554
Also I've noticed all of these people complaining about gore in DBM are all definitely anime secondaries. The gore in the manga is ridiculous sometimes, meanwhile the anime was heavily censored for Japanese TV laws.
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Way to miss the point of criticism. Gratuity is the problem that they are talking about, not its existence. Gohan obliterating a Cell Jr's head shows him having lost himself in rage, the power on display an extension of his fury and hinting at a darker shift in temperament that causes problems down the line (Gohan wants Cell to suffer, and as a result nearly dooms the Earth). Multiverse Gohan turning Nappa into Lego can have one of two readings: Gohan got hit with character regression and is so lost in rage that he can't control his power anymore, or it is there for the sake of the blood and gore on its own. And given the track record of the fancomic, the latter seems more likely. It has a tendency to DWELL on the violence rather than have it play into something actually part of the narrative. Look no further than the Majin Bra shit; her violence and sadism is on par with the worst of the worst villains in Dragon Ball, but the story bends over backwards to exonerate her and try to make the reader feel bad for her. Her violence being so readily forgiven by the narrative makes it come across as gratuitous gore.
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>>559336554
You're retarded. These gore instances are completely different and used way more sparingly. You proved yourself wrong with your Freeza page compared to pic related.
Also funny that you'd speak of anime secondaries when main DBM artists were absolutely anime secondaries.
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>>559341941
IT'S TOTALLY THE SAME GUYS!!!!!
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>>559342037
Also, Gohan wouldn't gore Nappa like that, it'd be something like pic related.
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People forgive multiversetards they have never read DB and are projecting their insecurities, they probably think it's either the cringe gorefest from their fanfic or the flanderized transparent fluids from the Super anime
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>>559342731
Or stuff like this
Less calm of course since Gohan is angry but just a big ass punch and the guy is knocked out (implied dead with white eyes if needed)
That's how it would happen if these retards had any idea of how Toriyama used to make manga, but they look down on Toriyama and think they're "improving things" by doing everything differently
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>>559342992
Even the most violent moments are shown differently, it's never really grotesque. Just part of the flow
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>>559343176
I don't even want to think how DBM would portray this lol
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>>559343176
Where does the bisected Buu Saga family lie on the Toriyama-to-Salagir scale?
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>shocking, but also lack of details that doesn't make these bodies look grotesque or repulsive
>more focus on Gohan's face than this
>added edge with the dead kid but par for the course since the Namek arc had that kind of stuff
Honestly it's not that high on the Salagir scale. It's dark conceptually but the execution made sure to keep it okay for kids.
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>>559342037
Being an idiot online is not a replacement for a personality. As I said the manga is leagues more graphic than the anime. Dirty fireworks canonically eviscerates the victim. Cry to Toriyama's ghost about it.
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This game owns my soul
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>>559345592
Posting colored scans is heavily correlated with subhuman mongoloid tier IQ, confirmed by the actual content of your posts anyway.
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>>559345943
Even Dragon Ball GT understands Dragon Ball better than your filthy westoids. At the end of the day there's no point in making manga as a frog. You just don't "get" it.
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I don't know who your boogeyman is, but you'll never make any Dragon Ball content. Your distortion rings false and fails to connect with anyone. It doesn't resonate, it doesn't evoke anything. It's a twisted mirror of autistic internet "fandom" culture developed in the worse fandoms populated with people that never cared to learn anything about the media they consumed blindly. You're nothing but a laughingstock and make even Toei's worst projects look like author masterpieces.
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>>559346637
>words words words
go home lil fella I ain't reading all that shit
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>Having a melty over colored pages
Huh.
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Lol, of course it's a hoodweeb.
>>559348250
It's been years and you're still mindbroken over an anon telling you you're having a meltie.
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Like 90%
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I swear I check in and every day the most nothing shit will trigger a retard or two and send the thread into a death spiral of autistic shrieking for no reason, it's a like a minefield but instead of dead cambodians you just get covered in shit
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