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12th Anniversary Countdown- 02/22 - 03/09
QoL - Subaha, Hexa and Mastery Trial Nerfs - Live
Odious Raid Series - 02/24
Final Tower of Babyl & Permanent Addition - March
Pro Skip for World Treasure Mats - March
Siete & Vikala 12th Anniversary Skins - March
Lancer Origin Class - March
Steam Client - 03/10
>February Schedule
02/13 - 02/28 - Valentine Messages
02/14 - 02/28 - Alchemist Event
02/19 - 02/26 - Dread Barrage (Wind Adv.)
>Future Schedule
04/06 - 04/13 - Unite & Fight (Water Adv.)
>Granblue Relink: Endless Ragnarok - 7/9
Closed Beta
>https://relink-ragnarok.granbluefantasy.com/en/cbt/
Latest Info
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NaKBXO0HHa4 [Open] [Embed] [Open] [EN] Granblue Fantasy: Relink - Endless Ragnarok | Showcase
Maggie/Bea/Eustace/Gallanza playable
>How to Start
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I love my wife so much bros
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Jarvis, do you thing
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>>558751613
>Phil Kiss
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I don't need to imagine
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>>558751613
>character first shown two months ago
>in the game's main story
>newest female main party member
>no image
>3/5 it's sloppy AI
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>>558751907
Safe to say that the new races are an unnecessary flop.
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Grand Galgelielle doko?
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Is it okay to play Ghandagoza in Relink?
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He is fun and does big damage when done right but he is too slow, has no good gap closers and is easily fucked out of his big damage hits because of how the boss fights are designed. Many kinds of folk would call you a troll for picking just character in anything where it matters but it really doesnt in Relink. Hopefully expansion rebalances him
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>I'm actually unironically warped
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Thanks for an actual response, I appreciate it. I tried him out against a few low difficulty bosses like solo Gallanza and Id because the memes had me curious and I kinda like his gameplay flow, but I can tell that his slow, precise timing and long wind-up playstyle just clashes heavily with the type of game Relink is on Proud difficulty.
It's even more sad when there are other characters with timing based playstyles, like Zeta and even Siegfried, and they can work just fine.
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The Phil Kiss bug set wasn't even good
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How does Varuna compare to Leviathan? What's the cutoff point? I have 2 Ebony Retribution, 1 Yatima Bow (for now, will probably spark another after I get my 2nd causality driver, fuck Exalto) and 1 Gabriel weapon. I feel like it can be hard to accurately assess the cutoff point. I have like 3 of every other water grand weapon (minus Wamdus because I never got her ever)
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>>558754832
Nothing but FAX from this post
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>>558754620
Cease
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Is it really so much of a shock that somebody would be interested in playing the funny shitpost character after said character gets memed here?
Is it a shock that somebody would ask a Relink related question, and then get advice when Relink came back from the dead
Is that really a surprise when there's barely anything else to talk about on this thread?
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>How does Varuna compare to Leviathan?
You actually deal skill damage
Also 100% crit rate is nice
Magna can use Dingers in ougi and Water burst is no longer as awful as it was during AA era (you have M3 daggers, M3 axes and you can use Gabu daggers), plus the element is heavily carried by its characters so even magna Water can feel strong as fuck. But forget about skill damage teams in magna - sure, Odious finally gave out F2P Tempering, but you're forced to go with a grid that nerfs your stats (even if you try to compensate with MKII Dingers) and that's obviously worse than what Varuna can provide.
Magna also can't into Hraes, but it's not like Hraes has a lot of viable content to be used in.
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>where they really at?
Right here
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It appears my superiority has caused a bit of controversy.
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Western Yaia
https://litter.catbox.moe/j2wuqx.jpg
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>>558749335
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Automatically filters out (or swaps) images using CLIP for style recognition (Artist/Slop Style/Character) and dHash as a vastly superior MD5 for duplicate detection.
Drag and drop images in a folder for CLIP
ALT+Left Click for dHash
complaints/problems: filterbitch.remark853@passinbox.com
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>>558756456
Thought about adding
>not the cowboy variety
to the post but relented in the end.
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Yeah my varuna grid right now is a bit lackluster looking at the core pieces and I'm not sure about investing bars if 3 exalto daggers + some m3 axes are likely to give me a better performance. My main team right now is Yatima/Europa/Gabriel which does feel strong as fuck. I'm pretty sure "optimised magna" beats "lackluster primal" but I'm not sure about the cutoff point.
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>>558757161
She's still in my captain's quarters recovering. Poor thing was left gasping all night
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>>558755253
This has been treating me well but caling this a bandaid fix is an overstatement. I'm at the "do I wanna use bars on this" point.
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>>558757874
This one's mine
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>give a thought out response to somebody asking a question
"Hurr look at the pathetic samefag desperate for attention with his 9000 word rehearsed script"
>give a meme response
"I guess samefag didnt like that one huh" (Read: "But you responded to Ghandafag, why wont you respond to MEEEEEE-ACK!")
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>seething at Relinkers talking to eachother
>insisting that every post he doesnt like is one dude with a script talking to himself
>seething because nobody cared to answer his Mr. Pigfried question
>>>>>Bhadra outta nowhere
A coincidence, I'm sure.
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>>558759253
>https://gbf.wiki/Siegfried_(Raid)/Grids#19:08-13
Cosmos is still worse than Sieg in this regard.
People have been FAing Sieg since Neko/Shion were the only option, the fact that they stall out is nothing compared to Cosmos straight up failing every other third run.
Sieg at least clears
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Before Yatima all you needed was like 1-2 Galilei, 1-2 Taisai, 1 KoI and 2 Gabu daggers. Wambrellas were required for Hraes but otherwise weren't that important.
After Exalto became a thing Wambrellas were dropped entirely and crit weapon dupes were replaced by Yatima bows, so in most cases 1 Taisai and 1 Galilei with 2 Yatima bows is enough. Hraes went full meme (if you don't have newest bullets, Formal Ilsa and ideally a dupe of her then you might as well not bother at all), Onmyo Shishio is still okay in endgame but Manadiver with DOpus is still retarded.
Magna Water is doing fine except skill damage - you can't benefit much from S.Monki, your Yatima won't be that strong, forget about chars like 150 Quatre, V.Cassius and H.Rat. But you can still go brrr with chars like Europa/Gabu/Dragon/Haase/S.Tefnut/S.Shalem
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Honestly, I think you're only missing a second Yatima bow to get Varuna grid for general content. You have nothing for modern Hraes burst and you might need more stuff for endgame to get some DEF and TA. YOu can try to farm M3 and get nice experience with DOpus Manadiver, Europa, Gabu and Dragon, but if you want to use chars who spam skill damage (Haase, Yatima, etc.) then going Varuna is a good idea.
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>>558760553
Goza is a borderline troll character. If Relink had a kick system I would boot your asses unless you swap to Rackam or Cagliostro
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>we came together with the idea of wanting to create the perfect little sister character. Everyone from the dev team brought their ideas to a pool that we picked things from
I wish they told more stories about creation of specific characters
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1 KoI and 1 skill Awakening Taisai
Varuna x Varuna with 2 Exalto, Gabu and maybe Wamdus summon gives you a really good about of skill cap and skill supplemental just from those two weapons. I think VerSUSia x Varuna also works because 20% damage amp buffs skill damage output really well.
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Yeah, but like I said in >>558755253
>sure, Odious finally gave out F2P Tempering, but you're forced to go with a grid that nerfs your stats (even if you try to compensate with MKII Dingers)
Doesn't help that you're forced to go Odious x Odious (so forget about Bubs or Versusia setups) and your magna weapons do fucking nothing, so slotting in 2-3 Dingers and going with ougi + skill damage team is the best you can do.
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>>558760830
Translation:
>We asked the team about their incestuous fetishes and condensed our depraved ideas into one character so artists will make R18+ art and doujins off of her so we can jack off to it.
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Non-Varuna water can't into moms raid with either spec so there's never really a time where you'll need all three damage types in equal measure.
Odious/Odius gives you more health than Magna gets in their usual multi-turn fa fights (nm250), so it's not like they don't have a purpose. The grid is competitive for some cases even as incomplete as it is.
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you haven't updated in years
if your cosmos fa fails, it fails at sub 25%. which the vast majority of players are willing to join and manually finish.
siegfried setups often fail at the very start of the raid, which means no one joins and you've wasted your time
also linking 20+ minute fa clears is hilarious in 2026.
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>>558754915
Other players more versed in this game than me have already answered you, but it sounds to me like you can easily go Varuna as soon as you get a second Exalto. I assume your Varuna summon is at least 5* (preferably Lv230+)?
>(minus Wamdus because I never got her ever)
Me neither, and as much as I like her I can never spark regular Wam since there's always something better to spark (like her Valentine alt, ironically enough)
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>why is haase so sexy
Being the princess of Galgenia comes with an innate charm buff
>why didnt katz impregnate her
Because she chose Danchou and he has no choice but to respect her wishes
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>tried finding an updated sieg solo
>nada
Seems that way. I've always had worse experiences with cosmos but dark has gotten quite a few new things since then.
Speaking of,
>https://aokusukitoru3ytn.blog.fc2.com/blog-entry-5670.html
Has a slow as a balls but easy magna fa solo for sieg if you clarisse
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I do feel a little bad for Katz, he entrusted his sister's custody to Danchou since she can't stay in Galgenia with him, and then she goes and falls for him while still barely tolerating Katze at best. Tootman deserves better.
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That's his seasonal fate, where he tries to sell Luvera as the superior catch to danchou, in an attempt to scare Haase into backing off.And then it backfires when both sisters are fine with sharing danchou
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>>558763683https://archiveofourown.org/works/60540874?view_adult=true
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why do japs love quadruple amputees so much?
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Does this work for Faa0? I'd like to do more than just hostleech especially because 20% is the risky part. I have the Fediel gun and Hexa is a fairly comfortable raid. How do you ensure 100% TA rate for the "do 4 TAs" omen?
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>Punctured ear
>Other ear might be missing entirely
>Eye patch
>No limbs
>Formaldehyde soaked cloth slathered over tits and belly
>Stapled surgical scars
>DEEP fudonshi
>Clockwork womb
Punished Pholia sure does check a lot of boxes.
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>Rei
>Momoilogia
Good, good, all you need is-
>Nyier
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Its funny because I grabbed dark Excalibur out of impulse when the ticket was about to expire and was intending to use it in a stupid team with Rat and S.Hallessena.
It turned out that stupid decision was one of the best choices I ever made in this game.
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hym...
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>>558766792
It's actually weird how this anniversary event is so firmly rooted in the msq timeline. They're clearly referencing topics that were just talked about in the latest msq chapters. All the previous anniversary events, and events in general, had almost no relevance at all to the main plot, everything being later just explained as "alternative timelines".
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someone with two millennia of experience would be able to destroy you verbally even if you overpowered them. like as soon as she saw your penis with her one eye, a small scoff would permanently annihilate any semblance of confidence you once had.
i wouldn't risk it.
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I've been stuck on chapter 119 of MSQ since like 2020.
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This made me think of the fact that most flashback kid draphs from what we see have very similar horns to what they have as adults. But Yaia is lot younger than any of those so she might still have some changes to the shape with time. Length at least but was thinking of curvature since most draphs have some. Or maybe she will just have stubs the rest of her life
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We of Fleet are recruiting
There are no quotas
Apply today
われわれフリートは団員を募集しているのだ!
ノルマなんてないのだ!
今すぐ応募するのだ!
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I think it works similar to Erune ears, where it largely depends on what "animal" they're based on. The only other draph with horns that small is cow, and it's obviously because of her Zodiac namesake. So yeah, Yaia's either hasn't taken shape, or hers are purposely small because she's a doe. Which kind of makes sense given her constant Christmas appearances, but she could've easily been given proper reindeer antlers if that was the case.
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it took them about 10 years to finally decide, yeah we'll stop making events on a very loose timeline so introduced the dragons to establish the multiple timelines happening and then slowly tying them together by through them again finally making the perfect unified timeline
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It's certainly unusual in comparison to most previous events, but I wouldn't call it weird. In fact, I'd argue it's weird that the anniversary events so far were so detached from the MSQ. If not all events, and vice versa. Like, if you stop to think for a moment, Narmaya just popped up in the main crew OUT OF NOWHERE. Meanwhile, Ferry, whose story follows the exact same patter all the previous main crew memebers' stories were, and who is included in every spin-off, and featured in promo materials together with the main crew, is still canonically not part of it. To a very slightly lesser extent this applies to Shitori as well.
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Thanks, I'll keep that in mind. I'm missing Formal Ilsa and Dragon, the latter of which I might just spark with the discount. I only have 150-ish rolls right now (with another 70 in side stories) so 1 spark is definitely in the cards.
I'm still not sure who I want to use my annitix on, I have Varuna and Hades as the only primal elements (having invested way more into Hades) so it's either going to be S. Cow for dark or ??? for Water.
Thanks for the advice. Have an Europa(l)
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I get the point you're making, but I'd like to reinforce your point by pointing out that it wasn't "random" at all. That year was full of these things. That's the year Bahamut uncap came, and we got his Fate episodes, which showed Faa and main story at the same time. That's the year where Orologia anni was, which was full of main story and events all being at the same time. In fact, the whole point of the Logia anni was that everything must happen exactly the way it has, there is no second option, everything else leads to worse outcomes. Not a single detail is allowed to change. Yoda uncap came months after that.
They were, quite obviously, not at all planning to separate main story and events. Because it's retarded to do so. Every single thing becomes a mess if they're separated. If they're separated, everything dealt with in events is still not occurred, so Sandalphon is imprisoned in Pandemonium and Lucifer is alive, but not helping out. Cosmos never dies, but does nothing when the world is threatened by Otherworld in main story. The moon forces have Diaspora. Dharma is about to burst, because Gran hasn't helped fix it or brought Zodiacs together. Hell, even Auguste is gone, utterly, with repeatedly disasters every year. Conversely, every main story threat, which is an end of world level issue, is still present. Akasha is fine. We never get Sky Map pieces to cross Grim Basin.
You get the idea. Events cannot work without main story happening, so events never even pretended main story was separate. The very month after the "separation" we got Juri's awful comedy event, which features main story and event elements together. Because of course it does, it involves Erste Empire and Erste Kingdom. You can't get that without main story.
Trying to separate them was a stupid idea and they abandoned it after one update because they got a lot of shit from anyone that cares about this game's story.
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>Juri's awful comedy event
It was fine.
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Haa...SEX!
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I only noticed grub trying to converge their timelines together after seeing how much another game with its history-defining volume did it first and it was a huge success that turned that game into a historical milestone of gacha writing.
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Obviously, I disagree. I like Juri so I was even looking forward to seeing him. It was a comedy event with like 2 jokes in it. The story was instead about nameless nobodies fixing a pointless comedy show, where no one is telling a joke. Sometimes when grub writers make events about specific things, like sauna, you can tell they care about those subjects and write in details. Here, they skipped everything about manzai itself, the writer had no interest in it, and just talked about the sappy feelings of the second guy Juri got, whose name I can't even remember, and his relationship with some retarded Harvin bad guy.
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I think the Raguza event is better comparison than Sauna since its similar kind of stage art. You can have opinions about the characters from it but it was way better than the Manzai event and a good example of porting artform to grub setting. Actually showed the stage act, made it a part of grub lore instead of just being a thing, and also had genuine fantasy elements to it with the ghosts as per setting. Manzai was just manzai without manzai, the characters nor setting made no difference to the writing. They could just change character art and names and throw it to some other modern setting game and it wouldnt look out of place.
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I have a guess as to why we got a whiplash of changing directions like this. The reason was simply that it was one guy making dumb decisions, and no one to check him or call him out on that.
https://pastebin.com/qnschRUY
>Interviewer: As the main story enters a new chapter, has there been any changes in the scenario-writing structure?
>FKHR: I've stepped back a little from directly handling the main story, and future developments will be entrusted to Terashima and other veteran writers. I think this will lead to there being some fresh new ideas and flavors to the main story, and I'm personally excited to see what they will be too.
>Terashima: Up until now, I've mostly been writing the main story all alone under Fukuhara, wrestling with it by myself. But starting with the new chapters, I'm looking forward to working with a larger team. All the new members of the team are writers who have worked on many interesting scenarios in past, so I'm confident the story will only get better.
And in the new interview they did a few days ago
https://news.denfaminicogamer.jp/interview/260218g/2
They mention the writers and artists are now working together for the first time after 12 years. The interviewer asks if working together is nice, why didn't they do it earlier?
>Scenario Writer B: I don't want to be misunderstood, but it was because no problems arose because of that previous approach. As is the case with main story writer Terashima, who wrote almost all of Estalucia arc by himself, GBF has parts that are carried entirely by a single individual's abilities and vision.
>Discussing things together can be risky, with various opinions getting mixed and that direction becoming unstable[...] But after 12 years, we can avoid that easily, and work together now.
Just one guy making retarded decisions, and event writers not there to call him out on that, until now. Now they work together, so retardation got reduced.
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Interviewer: The protagonist got separated from his companions. Was this something decided in advance?
FKHR: As we approached the truth of the world and the truth, the story would center around the protagonist, Vyrn and Lyria, that was what Terashima and I had decided long ago. These three are at the core of the crew, the drama of the story had to converge on them in order to wrap things up properly.
Terashima: But I really struggled on separating the protagonist from their companions. When we decided on the flow of things going from a big battle against Otherworld, a powerful foe, to reaching Estalucia, I decided on separating them this way. This would become a story about family at this point, placing both Gallanth, the protagonist's blood related family, side by side with the crew, a family he's built himself, it would create a risk of giving the impression that one was more important than the other. It is because they're both important as families, we decided to focus everything down on the protagonists.
Interviewer: If the protagonist had met Gallanth alongside the rest of the companions, it might make the main theme more blurred.
Terashima: Yes. On the other hand, while writing the script, I did feel it was sad that the protagonist would not get to introduce his crewmates to Gallanth. If Eugen was there, it'd be a bit unusual if I didn't write what he thinks of Gallanth, as another father, and Rosetta had traveled with Gallanth in past, so we'd have to touch on that too. Each character has these elements to them, so I felt the story would get unfocused, without separating them.
FKHR: But we did think for quite carefully about whether to make the companions die. Up until now in Granblue, dead characters almost never come back to life... In the end, because the story involved major events that affect the world in a major way while taking place in the Estalucia, where the dead go after death, we ended up settling on the companions dying.
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They're not wrong. It was the right decision. You can laugh at it as "they can't write the interactions" but that's not what they're saying, it's that writing these interactions would make the story worse, and it would.
I had the same thought while reading the current anni event. If this was even last year, there would be fucking Eugen, Io, and Roetta in the cast, saying literally nothing of substance. They'd be just bogging down the pacing harder, as they have done so in many previous anni events. Getting rid of them made it better. Even the fact that Rackam is still around is annoying in this event, why is he part of the battle against Ahhazu? The fuck is he even contributing? Did you also need Eugen going drinking or Rosetta going "that man...!" or "that man!!!" over and over again here? Or whatever the fuck would Io do.
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the way they talk you would think they are writing a serious epic or something.
in reality they are writing something akin to the level of a bargain bin isekai novel and they are just making up excuses for themselves not to put too much character interactions so they will less work to do.
this is why when people try to talk about grub to people outside of the fandom they will never mention anything about the story, especially the MSQ.
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They are at the risk of becoming that, yes. I was always skeptical of people asking for event characters they like as main cast because they'd end up just as useless as older main cast, because stories aren't about them.
But I will not make that judgement just yet, it's their first time around and they aren't even done, they might actually matter to the story. Darydara, for example, is already important to the plot, being the son of Violet Knight. Six and Narmaya got like two lines of dialogue each, so maybe they'll matter later, but they are at the risk of being just as useless. At least Six's habit of hiding in the shadows means they won't have to waste dialogue on him, he's just hiding.
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>character interaction shouldn't exist because they don't say anything of substance
you do realize that it's the writers job to give them the dialogues and personality so they can SAY something of substance right?
they are not actors on stages ad libbing the whole thing, you are defending the writer for doing less because when they do it they do it badly, that's your entire fucking argument.
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These two statements are not contradictory though. Cygays SHOULD have added the popular characters to the main story earlier, so they could be written into it organically. But now, twenty years after launch, the way they just shoehorned them into the story after virtually NO presence in the MSQ, just feels forced.
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Both can be true and arguments from same person. They should have shaken up the main crew many years ago already, but as writers they should have tried to make the introduction and inclusion of those characters much more organic and natural. Having Naru around is nice but she just pops out of nowhere and does nothing. It feels lazy. Nobody wants lazy writing for character they like, and arguably Naru gets so much stuff that not having her appear at all would be preferrable to that, since its not like her fans are desperate like some others who would slurp a meaningles line in a seasonal skit.
Watch Sandal get actual meaningful writing tho. Since we know Faa is coming back so they will have real converstations and interactions instead of filler lines.
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The original main crew was fine. They simply didn't make it work and brain-iddled retards thought it was the characters's fault, instead of the writing. Yes, having Narmaya being in the same role as Rosetta and doing fucking nothing will end up in a situation where people are going to lose interest in Narmaya, just like they did for Rosetta, even though Rosetta was hot and could have had an interesting back story.
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nobody said they couldn't add popular characters to the story.
they just need a plausible reason to be there instead of "oh the timelines merged and you two are the 2 most popular characters for girls and guys"
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What killed Rosetta for me was that they degraded her into being Io's backpack and nothing else. After the Innermost Teachings arc in Nalhegrande, it genuinely felt like Rosetta just existed to be a power up for Io. Doesn't help that Io is a completely nothing character.
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>you do realize that it's the writers job to give them the dialogues and personality so they can SAY something of substance right?
Characters exist to serve the story. There's no inherent worth in "character interactions." A character or their interactions only matter in so far as they are of relevance to the story. I am defending a writer for doing "less" because "more" isn't good. It's not like there weren't character interactions. There were. There was just no interaction where we got Eugen's opinion of Gallanth's parenting skills because it's utterly useless and uninteresting. Keep that sort of thing in Fate episodes or miniskits.
An example of this is in the current event too. When Gran goes to meet Lecia and Walfrid, he's alone. He left the rest behind. This is because the character interaction we can get between Walfrid and Gran is more important than what we'd get if Six or Narmaya or Rackam were there. Given how Gran separated from Gallanth, abruptly and brutally, Walfrid reassuring him that Gallanth is smiling in afterlife, happy with his end, is something of worth to Gran and to the story. It's something only Walfrid can provide to only Gran, and is of importance to plot. That's what character interactions should be.
Some people enjoy just pointless character interactions, but they're poison to any story. GBF suffers from this poison a lot, it's a big reason why main story, and particularly the main crew, was so bad. No one cared about main crew because they were irrelevant to the story. Io, Eugen, Rosetta, Katalina, none of them had anything to do with anything in main story. If a character can be removed without altering the story, they should be removed and their interactions are worthless. You can remove the main crew from all parts of main story after the beginning island hopping, and besides FIGHTS, nothing changes. If they were replaced by a weapon that could let Gran fight better without dialogue, you'd get a better story.
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the point of naru being there is that, coming off the tail end of a world ending battle, she's one of the strongest crew members, but not in a godlike primal way. her losing is to provide context and make the stakes seem higher when facing a mortal human enemy.
something a 4th grader would probably understand since it's a common shounen trope.
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>If they were replaced by a weapon that could let Gran fight better without dialogue, you'd get a better story.
Unfortunately, we don't even get that. This event is canonically in MSQ2 and Gran is still a basic bitch tier 1 fighter rocking Vorpal Blade and Full Arsenal 1 in the event battle. The fact that they're fighting Astrals and yet these devs/writers cant bother to give him some event skills or an appearance change to indicate the fact that time has passed and his skill has grown is beyond me.
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>Characters exist to serve the story. There's no inherent worth in "character interactions."
no shit, it's the writer's job to give them the worth and a function in the story, you are still backtracking onto your original argument.
>There was just no interaction where we got Eugen's opinion of Gallanth's parenting skills because it's utterly useless and uninteresting.
there is, and you are using the most disingenuous example possible.
Rosetta had been with Gallanth for a long time and robbing the two of a reunion moment is criminal.
there has been downtime moments in the estulcia arc and they could have easily resolve the less important, less serious things there before moving on to the part where things get serious.
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>it's the character's fault that the interactions are dull and the story goes nowhere because it's the character's fault for not saying the right things
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it's possible it just requires a strong core. that's all back muscles. it's even tested in school, call the torso flex test. and a common move in figure skating.
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It's a browser game that they have to make a new enemy sprite every other month. The game has paid for itself for literal centuries at the peak of its popularity, and even nowadays still pays it off well enough.
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>Rosetta had been with Gallanth for a long time and robbing the two of a reunion moment is criminal.
No one gives a shit because Rosetta doesn't matter. Her reunion doesn't matter because Rosetta doesn't matter. There is not a single thing in the story that is there because of or for Rosetta, hence she doesn't matter. The whole idea is that you do something just for the sake of giving your useless, pointless secondary characters something "good" but entirely unrelated to the plot is literal poison to stories.
It's the reason why slop like One Piece sucks. Because it'll introduce a dozen characters like pic related, some fucking retards in diapers, give them 10 chapters of "emotional" backstory, 30 chapters of fight against a guy in a speedo, and the fans of the utter slop will call it good because it was "emotional" and "character interactions were good" while the story is moving at the pace of a fucking snail as none of this shit mattered. This shit is the same as Rosetta meeting Gallanth. It doesn't matter at all. Rosetta's existence is worthless, she's the same as this diaper retard and should not even be in the story. Something the writers recognized as early as 2016, when they cut her from the anime main crew.
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>No one gives a shit because Rosetta doesn't matter. Her reunion doesn't matter because Rosetta doesn't matter
You are still circling back to your original point.
She doesn't matter because the writers are too incompetent to give her a reason to matter to the main plot.
>Because it'll introduce a dozen characters like pic related
you are being disingenuous once again
the main crew has always has the same handful of characters as opposed to one piece where you get a 100 rando nobodies everytime they moved on to a new arc, get a better argument.
>The whole idea is that you do something just for the sake of giving your useless, pointless secondary characters something "good" but entirely unrelated to the plot is literal poison to stories.
so why doesn't Gran just travel alone then
why don't the characters like Oigen and Io just fuck off once they resolve their personal dramas?
why didn't the writers kick them off from the crew once they have no more stories to tell?
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you're literally wasting your life arguing on 4chan that everything in a franchise should have meaning.
the irony.
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>She doesn't matter because the writers are too incompetent to give her a reason to matter to the main plot.
Correct, they introduced her and then made a plot that had nothing to do with her.
>the main crew has always has the same handful of characters as opposed to one piece where you get a 100 rando nobodies everytime they moved on to a new arc
You're focusing on the wrong detail. The rando nobodies are interchangeable from main crew because they're the same fundamentally, character irrelevant to the plot. They're just around longer.
>so why doesn't Gran just travel alone then
Because the story isn't just about him. There are characters in every part of main story that are companions and matter. Part 1 has a lot. Black Knight, Orchis, Lecia, Drang, Sturm, Adam. Do you know what happens to them in part 2? They fuck off. Their stories are finished and as the story focuses on a new plot, a new place, new characters take their position.
Your whole point about "why don't the characters like Oigen and Io just fuck off once they resolve their personal dramas?" is my point too. They SHOULD fuck off. But they didn't, because the writers sucked and kept around useless characters, and the more you saw these useless characters take screentime away from the plot, the more grating they got.
Take the Otherworld invasion of Nalhegrande. We're there chasing Violet Knight. The main goal is to take Akasha back from him. But an Otherworld invasion gets in the way. Otherworld has invaded for Lyria and Vyrn. Key characters are Violet Knight and Lyria and Vyrn. The whole bit is interesting as you deal with being separated from Lyria, fend off Otherworld with Vyrn awakening his power. In all this, they throw in Katalina's plot about reaching innermost teaching, which adds literally nothing. She should have not even been there. But writers were too hack to make her fuck off, and if she's around, they feel compelled to give them something to do. It's literal filler.
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This setup gives me around 2-2.5m honors on FA (sometimes up to 4 but it depends on the speed) vs Siete. Anything I can do to improve this? I don't have Grand Zeta or the Evokers at 5*I would include a 3rd exalto cane but finishing the second one took, no joke, 2000+ animas. I have 4000 colo animas.
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BK and Orchis stay behind, Lecia gets called off, Orchid, Sturm and Drang are initially around but before we even get to Nalhegrande, they get "separated" and are effectively fucked off. They save main characters from falling to his death once with Orchid's strings, but then only reappear as a backup asset in a fight at the end of the arc, along with Lecia and Monika.
Funnily, this is the same thing that happens at the end. Main crew dies, and is revived for the final fight, brought together by Ferry.
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Bunny is still pretty good, but her usage is starting to dip and it probably won't recover. Forced DA wasn't painful at first, but things are starting to change and it's becoming more of a hassle for mechanics. Poor synergy with the Versusia summon is one example, but obviously dirt also went off into the ougi direction regardless. I wouldn't say she's the best dirt investment at the moment.
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>they introduced her and then made a plot that had nothing to do with her.
who is "they"
>they're the same fundamentally, character irrelevant to the plot. They're just around longer.
who why didn't the writers ditched those characters if they serve no purpose
>because the writers sucked and kept around useless characters
hey at least I finally managed to get that out of you.
you do know that ALL of the issues that you had been complaining are because of these sucky writers right?
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Why continue to argue with retard who huffs his own farts and thinks he knows what's the best for writing?
Surely GBF got a huge income of players thanks to new MSQ that's so totally different from previous parts? Surely we didn't lose 60k players compared to last year and keep losing more while nobody gives a shit about new MSQ because people follow the "fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me" motto and don't give trash writers a second chance after how they handled the previous arc? It's like witnessing Kingdom Hearts fiasco all over again where shitton of people dropped the series after how badly KH3 was handled while leftover fans are wondering why nobody gives a shit about new story arc (and series in general these days) when the first one took like 15 years to be finished only to fuck up everything at the end.
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>fictional male exists
>mickeys start ackin' out
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>release grands with their cool armor for everyone else
>my man the one I think is actually cool gets no grand but a bad non-limited instead and bitch Lecia steals the armor (wont even use it anymore after this event)
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Hopefully more people will max their summons during the extra drop campaigns. More are starting to pop up in the list for past couple days, but we also don't know if the wind/earth raids will also get the drop boost.
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Like 2k
I thought bullet farming was autistic, but with new quest it was actually pretty comfortable. Now alchemy shit? I just hit 15k and I was playing ever since it was added to the game. So it'll take me like 2-3 more years to buy manatura (unless I'm willing to use shitton of random mats that might be used in the future). Forget about ring, paper and sand.
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The difference is kind of split by their actual skill numbers, since they're all higher than their magna/primal counterparts. The only real issue is that they can't do single-sided at all, since they'd still be missing a primarch/summon to hit 280% effects.
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Farm FA and watch series or anime. i think the drop rate is high. for 3.5k cag mats as measure I dont think is that hard. if u have raphael char u can replace 1 gun for another wep. the original comp used noire char
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It won't happen till they remove befoulment altogether. I understand they wanted a new timesink for players and a completely new modifier with its own grids was legit a good idea. But then they had to ruin it with an even worse and unskippable version of ax skills that forces you to minmax if you don't want your own grid to kill you.
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This new weps wants to cover what magna was missing, but at the same time you don't run this magna weps...missing the other mod. Dirt miss the tempering mod, but you cannot go odious x magna need 3 exaltos weps and no room for other shit. and odious x2 cannot run the CA wep...
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>use shitton of random mats that might be used in the future)
they've made it clear that the really old stuff will not be reused when they brought in skips. it'll just increase the time gating. and the stuff you do need, like anima can just be gathered again with those daily skips.
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That was the goal, because it's pretty evident they never want F2P to ever have the same options as Primal. The Garrison/Heal cap split is the same on the defensive pieces, where you have to pick one or the other from the odious or M3 grids. So you always have to sacrifice something, but at least there's a little more opportunity to min/max for specific comps if the mods do line-up.
Dirt's probably a good example here, since it should be able to cap ougi damage without the M3 glory weapon, so it can go odious for tempering/HP if it really wanted to.
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I see. Yeah, there's not much to move around except the Sieg axe. And I'm assuming the Destroyer is on Godflair to fill in the remaining skill cap/supplemental. Something like a figurative Atum stick or dinger for dirt would really help, since none of those characters offer any ougi supplemental and their ougi buffs are all selfish. But as you said, the tempering still makes up the difference in the missing 50% grid ougi cap.
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feels cheap now because it's 12 years but now that if they're writing together I hope it feels like a soft reboot, where they are "introduced" like ch1 characters, only we just know them.. Man they really wasted time keeping the original crew and not doing anything with them. But It's somewhat understandable they weren't able to make really popular characters 2 years in and it's not even the main crew
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>My dear king,
Thank you very much for the gift. It made me truly happy, and my heart feels completely filled with joy. You are so kind to have prepared a gift even for someone like me.
From now on as well, I will continue to serve you as your secretary with all my devotion. Please feel free to command me as you wish.
In this season when we eagerly await the budding of grass and flowers, please take good care of yourself.
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Well canonically she is among the top 3 of so out of those draphs in size.
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this reply is on point
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>>558810006
>surely cygames will make [Good decision]
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>>558811461
Neru love
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I am unsure if I am here or not here
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Did they change the mvp colour?
https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1772213947857624.mp4" target="_blank">https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1772213947857624.mp4
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Is there a single zodiac that isn't ruined?
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>>558824140
Farming out your odius/revan sets gives a decent amount, and after that you can double dip revans for sand/alchemy, triple dip the 6d for sand/alchemy/wonder or farm HL raids for bullet mats and/or future use
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>>558822690
Go ahead. What's your retarded justification?
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preemptively BTFO
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>>558825241
>a character's xmas fates
>"i'm not hanging out with you lol"
>"wait, there's gonna be other men who are going to give me free sake?"
>"never mind i'm going after all lmao"
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Don't forget they shoehorned grand yuel out of nowhere during the zodiac anniversary, before the worst actual zodiac grand event pick, and the worst 2 zodiac seasonal picks
They can totally give us something like Grand Latroon, or Sandalphon 3
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https://www.youtube.com/live/SSQv45qMGvM?t=13551s
https://www.youtube.com/live/xSYGgmCNTqE?t=20280s
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https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/search/text/SSQv45qMGvM%20t%3D13551s/
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>>558826663
literally all me
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>>558826720
>enter co-op
>I'm the only one not 400 in the room
>labor/pear phase starts
>some primal whale is taking a little too long with it
>""""bea_thump.png"""
>"""lyria_gomenasai.png"""
>they retreat
>vote to cancel raid appears
Why r400 elitist fucks like this?
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>>558826394
Why does this thing look like a roon?
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grub deserves more fairies
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nyoticing
wind is only getting literal tranners or omega shill club level females, like metera, ever since vampy and galleon disrupted fktrn's plans for wind
exactly almost what happened with light and pigcock, at least until the intern snuck h. dog and made her busted (nyotice they did release fktrn's self insert and favorite zodiac's speedran yukata for light before vajra)
and also nyotice that also happened to vajra when everyone was using pig nemo and one more female like athena or izmir
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>>558774727
The horse game exists because of idolmaster's success, grub didn't contribute shit. Speaking of idolmaster, grub's survival in the "good ol' days" can also be attributed to them as well.
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Not your discord, rat. I can call your bluff as early or as late as I please.
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Grand Galgelielle doko?
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grubbas are mentally ill
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>>558833817
Mr. Pigfried already did that.
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>>558834351
Her time is now
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>>558834626
You mean silva the troonva
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>>558835492
On your knees. Now.
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Total Haasex Domination
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Holesome
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>>558838480
There's always something else to grind, or pre-farm if you really have everything done. Just to name a few off the top of my head:
>Evoker Transcendence is coming soon and who know what level of autistic grind it will require
>If you plan on getting Hraes at any point, there's always the bullet grind
>There's Odious/Befoulmentslop if you're a Magnabab and genuinely hate yourself
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>>558839769
My dumbass completely missed that you were asking about rank exp specifically
Yeah just keep farming shartbox for Evoker Troonscendence mats. Don't waste your Sextants until Troonscend comes out, who knows how much blue paper we'll need.
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>another character that got an ssr before camieux
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IS THIS GOOD?
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Sieg sword was already dogshit weapon design and homogonized Grids to a disgusting level, I really dont want them to make "Sieg sword but for every element" just to justify having every Exalto skill available for every element
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>3 turn lock out
Lol no
You guys are retards
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>>558841384
picrel alone beats out any of the other three knights for usefulness
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>>558841685
OUR QUEEN APPROVED
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Lecia grand?
I thought it was Lecia centric anni????
Leciabros?????????!!!!!!!!
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>wind got the NA Echo wep
water keks have to spark the skill echo wep
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>Wind has Rhomp and is waiting for Lancer Origin to turn MC into powerhouse while S.Galleon and V.Bampi (and Naru, I guess) buff them
>naaaaaaaaaaaaaah, let's go for sword-only memes lol
>because we have, uhhhhhhhhhh, outdated as fuck Grand Lecia and, uhhhhhhhhhh. Noire who's only used for meat farming
https://gbf.wiki/Weapon_Specialty
It's basically 5* Lecia waiting room to see if it's even worth it.
Nice weapon though
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>exalto NA
>Echo + supp NA
>metera bow
>FO bad
giga retards
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NA amp is the worst type of exalto, and Metera bow doesn't do much for single hit nukes like Dawnbreak and Beast Fang
Wind Fighter isn't bad, but its nowhere near the likes of dark in terms of what it can do.
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Makes me wonder what happened to the previous Golden Knight if the True King was the Green Knight and the original Green Knight took up the mantle again. Because logically Alliah should be the Green Knight going by lineage.
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>don't care about Walfrid
>get him with free single roll
tired of this homoge...
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Fire seems to be in a good spot right now
>king of burst
>ougi teams are viable now (and they run together with skill memes)
>FA is pretty comfy
>really want Higurashi for Versusia but otherwise can manage hard content just fine
Unless he trivializes Versusia I have no idea what he or his weapon can improve in Fire
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When they bought back Littany on Ange fates I thought they would roll back to yuri shit after Ange 5* but then Littany instantly announces how she is married now to a fucking baker. Also the baker is a based architech
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>Padjeeta coping hours
Oh boy, my favorite...
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>Wake up
>Remember Dragon prefer bunch of old guys than you
>Laugh
>Boot up wuwa
Feels good to be wuwachad
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All jokes aside, Walfrid and his sword(s) are actually really good for Exo Sword Glorybringer. Mastery Edge pairs nicely with Walfrid wanting sword allies on the team anyways. I just think its extremely retarded that katanas are exempt from his passive. You'll still want to slot in Naru anyways because there's nobody better.
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So now 4/7 luminary knights is now playable all of them are mediocre
> BK is useless even with FLB
> GK is old
> WK is outclassed
And now Walfrid has Sword or bust kit
Now we wait for Baragona, Zarydora and Octavia
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Wuwon like always
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5* BK was core during FaaHL and Bubs era
Her kit is old as fuck even after several rebalances, though
GK was always meme character, she was only briefly used with H.Zeta&Vas for burst and Grand Oigen for ougi memes
You're correct about WK and Walfrid
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The skill fate basically doubles down on the "I hope you find your Prince one day Ange" and her flashbacking to Littany converstation from 5* and going "N-no but I wanted a princess. Why does everyone say that" and ending on weither princess or prince is what she finds is another story
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see >>558846204
mika is a never eververver
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Walfrid's ougi in the event was so underwhelming that I wasn't sure if it was another Lucifer/Raiden situation or if they were going to touch it for his actual release. And then it turns out it really is just that.
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>As part of the release celebration for Walfrid, official GBF social media is running a follow/retweet campaign for a hand-drawn art board autographed by Ikeda Shuichi! (As with most other promotions, they do not ship outside Japan)
Copying other games again I see
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nice. But I have a feeling they will just introduce a Prince 'fe'male in future just for her...
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fun times
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> a Prince 'fe'male