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Fatal Frame Edition
Welcome to /horg/, the place to discuss anything horror games-related, such as:
- AAA series: Resident Evil, Silent Hill, Dead Space, Alan Wake, Alien Isolation, Dying Light, The Evil Within, etc.
- Current indie games and hidden gems: Alisa, Conscript, Darkwood, Faith, Pathologic, Penumbra, Signalis, Soma, Song Of Horror, Tormented Souls, Voices of the Void, World of Horror, Yume Nikki, etc.
- Retro classics: Alone in the Dark, Clock Tower, Dino Crisis, Eternal Darkness, Fatal Frame, Parasite Eve, Sweet Home, System Shock, etc.
- Free mods: HL1's Afraid of Monsters and Cry Of Fear, Doom's MyHouse.wad and Total Chaos, fan-made games like Blood: Death Wish, Penumbra: Necrologue, Resident Evil REVisited, stand-alone free games like SCP Containment Breach, etc.
>Horror games lists, guides, and resources:
https://rentry.org/horrorgeneral
>Wiki (Very WIP)
https://manifestationsoffear.miraheze.org/wiki/Main_Page
>Google Drive of the Setting (WIP)
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1QCtP8NlKifNEU-HTd_5D5QzOwKJTTL sK?usp=drive_link
>Question for the thread:
What's your favorite example of J-Horror in video games?
>Quick game recommendations
World of Horror, phantasmagoria
>Previous thread:
https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/558719838/
>Are there any games or other cool stuff (or improvements) that you think should be added to the guide? Feel free to reply to the OP to give out a suggestion.
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>mfw
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Now that the dust has settled, it’s time to take another analytical look at the focus point in the games once more - which RE virus would you be willingly infected with if you had to choose one? Which is your favorite?
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>>558984086
It's technically canon since its events happened, but in broad strokes since remakes change up everything. The Family is mentioned in a file too, but they're irrelevantnow that RE9 retconned Connections as being the reason Raccoon City got nuked, when RE6 claimed the Family did it.
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I didn't really mind how often the bastard zombies cheat on standard but now going through it on insanity its really fucked. they will straight up teleport through other zombies when you're not looking and get a grab attack on you from behind.
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we uh, we don't know honestly
>>558989768
I imagine the laugh means it unlocks or activates something else but I have no fucking clue what
the final puzzle achievement description is "let the sweet pair hear the voice" so maybe grace has to carry emily for it?
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>>558991642
I think it's mostly because leon uses 9mm guns and grace uses .380s(and the 9mm MPA) and since they're both technically 9mm they just made all handgun ammo into .355 which, technically, is 9mm
>>558994893the end of the game reveals that grace was, in fact, completely irrelevant and totally unneeded
also, why a saturn?
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press space when the enemy attacks I guess
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spencer would've been like... 80 when grace was born
she'd be far and above cwc-tier autismal
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Why did he do it?
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I'm not gonna lie to you
I was excited to see leondie at the end and am actually really disappointed that he didn't :(
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Qt.
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>>558997113I was kinda sad they chickened out of it but I also know Requiem is closeting the Raccoon story line and nostalgia-gooning which is why it's so fucking baffling theres no Jill. I assume the DLC(s) will focus on her but it's still really out of place. the whole Elpis Is Good Actually went right over my head until I hit the credits. that made me feel like a right tit.
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>>558996680
Only like 30-35% of RE9 is similar to RE4. I would say that 30% stacks up really well but once youget to RPDit is a very steep decline in quality for the remainder of the game
The Care Center is also fantastic.
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Capcom WON
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Requiem is great but I really wish it stuck to the ratio of Grace:Leon in the first half, Requiem's Leon gameplay isn't bad at all but it's definitely not close enough to RE4 enough to be as long as that Raccoon City section was, I preferred it when he just traced Grace's steps and absolutely mogged everything. And fuck the Orphanage part too, now I have to do that every time I replay the game
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Choosing the Standard difficulty for the Ink Ribbons is completely pointless and probably shows you why they were ditched in the first place, you will never ever need to save and not have one/be able to make one
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Yup time for my Insanity run
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It’s a TOMAHAWK, actually :)
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It’s part of her quintessential charm
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>I WAS TO BECOME A GAWWWWWD
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>>559002395
I mean, yeah
but that's really the same for most RE games honestly
RE4 kinda sputters out once you hit the island, both OG and remake, RE3 drops the ball once you hit the clock tower, RE2's lab wasn't as well designed as the RPD, code veronica's second half turned a solid 9/10 RE into a soft 6, etc etc
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Would you buy it?
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>>559006259
the tyrants have a very whimsical side to them
he didn't need to do this, but he did
yes, I would
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I fucked up and left my system on
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I have no idea how I somehow first tried survived that clusterfuck. It took me ten whole minutes of panic running around and I got shot or knocked down like a dozen times but somehow still kept going. Only realized after there was a mounted mg near the exit.
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>every helicopter is a huey
>every police car is a 70s-style boxy car
>grace's postgame unlock is a rapid fire submachine gun, perfect for her playstyle of rarely ever having more than 10 bullets at once
>all the RC zombies are still alive and kicking
the cracks are showing....
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I would say the island is the exception at least in the remake but yeah
>>559006259
You would be very stupid not to if you have the money. Those things would have a wide range of uses in day to day life even aside from the fact they can tear through any modern armed force that isn’t equipped to the teeth
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Is RE4RE as hilarious as Leon's first couple of parts in RER?
Just finished his 3rd part and it's really funny. The chainsaw spinning on the floor, the weak zombie sliding on the flood with it, killing other zombies,
Leon being a savage and cutting heads with one blow.
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>>559009515
I'll go back marathoning RE games after I finish this. Currently on RE5. I have sometime before I reach RE4RE but I look forward to.
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Soundtrack release when?
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>>558990316
Pretty much any of the viruses that give you a leadership over a hive mind structure and/or allow you to switch back and forth between regular and infected forms are pretty sweet deals. Having Wesker’s genes is obviously the top tier since you just get superpowers with none of the drawbacks. I.e. what Umbrella was more or less trying to reproduce in droves. Other big ones include the Cadous and Dominant Plagas. Everything else would give you functional superpowers but at the expense of living a normal life.
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watch your mouth
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Anyone who understands game dev and engines, how did they do the real time dynamic blood splatters?
I lost my mind at this part realizing they happen in real time and stick on the walls.
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I know we're all on Requiem right now, but remember how Village has some really weird pacing issues? The game slows way down to introduce all these characters that never end up mattering at all. It's even weirder when you know Nicole recorded a bunch of stuff for Elena that didn't make it in game
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That's the thing though, it is the 'closest' but for me it's nowhere near as good, the best we can say is it's RE6 but actually good, I think they worked better when they were shorter, a solid hour of wandering around RC as Leon really just hammered home for me how much this isn't RE4. And the part with Grace and the Lickers afterwards is just proof for me that her sections are absolutely better.
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>>558990316
Hell, if you had a guaranteed chance of ending up with something cool and useful like Heisenburg, I’d argue you’d be crazy to not take it
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speak for yourself
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Where is she
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>>559013762
Her face looks extremely weird. But at least they got her jittery autistic mannerisms down.
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Best couple. Need to make a lot of babies.
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>get the silver scope for the remington 70 after the RPD
>it gives you even farther zoom
>long after you'll ever need a long-range sniper rifle
>there's no NG+ where you can keep your learned recipes(gross) and guns
that, the funky injectors(4 slots, there's only 3 possible injectors?), and giving grace a full auto submachine gun as her postgame unlock are all some rather odd choices
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yes, she's having hot, sweaty, brown-skinned sex with her though
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>>559012754
I've seen blood on walls on other games often but this is next level mess and realism.
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Why aren't you using the gatling gun to kill them?
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>I might try some mods next. Has anyone played RE4 World S
I have. It's honestly a little annoying.
>Nerfed knife
>Scarce ammo
>More enemies than RE4 per room in general
>They also teleport to spawn when specific triggers happen
>Upgrades are weaker
>Game gives less money
>Upgrades get real expensive for no reason
If you're gonna play it, get every attache case upgrade as soon as they show up because otherwise you'll really struggle with inventory slots. Get a few upgrades but don't overfocus on one gun or the others will suffer. Also would advice against upgrading the handgun since there's another, Punisher reskin handgun that is stronger, and the piercing is good since there are so many enemies this time around... I played it by killing everyone, so many with the knife, and some "death" rooms are pure bullshit if you don't have ammo. One of them has two Salvadores, a lot of ganados, and a Super Salvador. You're not beating that room without the magnum and molotovs (flame grenade reskins). In short, World S is more of something for players who know RE4's mechanics... Hell, it has a Water Hall that is far longer and more difficult than RE4's.
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>Her face looks extremely weird. But at least they got her jittery autistic mannerisms down.
They nailed her shy and timid nature with her idle animations, that are unique to her, but yeah, she looks odd there.
>Best couple. Need to make a lot of babies.
At least5 more sisters for Emily
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It felt a bit longer than 10 hours to me...
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>Why aren't you using the gatling gun to kill them?
>Only realized after there was a mounted mg
thanks for the feedback on WS. Scare ammo sounds good, elite enemy spam and knife cheesing sound annoying, but it seems that's the whole RE modding scene in a nutshell
Night Terror village intro seems to have two executioners + one chainsaw
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Another thing about World S is that guns don't necessarily have the same amount of ammo within them, which's specially noticeable with the shotgun, since it only holds two shells. Upgrade its reload speed ASAP, because there is a "Death" room that has a lot of enemies and two Bella Sisters, you'll need the faster reload. "Death" rooms have "Death" written outside of them, and the HUD's color is changed to red instead of white or green, the game is not being subtle about the difficulty so prepare yourself as much as you can before you get inside.
>Scare ammo sounds good, elite enemy spam and knife cheesing sound annoying
You don't necessarily need to do that. I saw a few clips from Bawkbasoup and he eventually completed it but, playing slow and boring is more rewarding in the long run because of the Death rooms. Specially that one with two Salvadores and Super Salvador... Oh and, save a few Molotovs, World S is in love with Super Salvador and he actually can show up with no warning. Save as much as you can.
>Night Terror village intro seems to have two executioners + one chainsaw
Never played it but that sounds annoying when you barely have guns...
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>Bawkbasoup and he eventually completed it
completed it despite not having much ammo*
>Save as much as you can.
Save your progress* You don't need to hog molotovs (And it's not advisable, they use 3 slots now so you can run out of slots quickly)
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Because you can parry most attacks in the gamr, you have access to a bunch of insta kill attacks with random items the enemies drop along with the melee attack on staggered enemies
There is also ammo everywhere I don't think you can even really run out unless you just have the worst aim of all time
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Yeah it's definitely something made for RE4 veterans, but it's not good. At some point I was playing more so to see how many areas are different (The castle was particularly interesting to explore), but whenever I had to kill I killed everyone with the knife just to make sure I have enough ammo. That whole "Gamers don't use the strongest stuff in case they really need it for later" is basically what you have to do in World S to not have a terrible time in Death rooms. I do have to admit it was rewarding for my ammo hoarding to be rewarded because when I found a tough situation, I just went nuts and struggled a lot less than I would if I hadn't saved as much, but this is not replayable, and I haven't played it again since I finished it. Pic related is my inventory at the end of the game, and if you use ammo too freely you won't get something like this, since I had to kill a lot of enemies and mini bosses with the nerfed knife (Including coming up with ways to kill Super Salvador and get their drops).
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maybe leon checked after grace stormed off?
either way, very silly
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>>559023107The fact that he didn't her vitals and also the fact that she just happened to be inside the things body, what a load of shit
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that part just felt weird...Grace and Leon are very close and Grace leaves with the bad guys while Leon simply turns back?
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>>559023520From Grace's perspective, Leon just merced the little girl that she had desperately tried to save. Sure, Emily just turned into a big monster but Grace was high off of copium so she was obviously very upset about both being unable to save Emily and Leon seemingly not even trying to help with that. She left with Victor and Zeno because the alternative was hanging out with Leon, the guy who just reduced her hope of saving Emily from 0.1% to 0%
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I’m loving all the little details of this game man. The way Grace reloads the Requiem, the way she puts the flashlight in her mouth when she reloads and has it on. Regardless of the macro, the micro does bump it up a level for me.
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Somebody found the 3rd step to the secret puzzle over on plebbit.
Spoilers for anyone looking to solve it on their own.
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I can kinda appreciate how this game has bits of absolutely everything, even though replays will probably be annoying. I have a couple questions, first does anyone know if you can jab the fat fuck in Grace's scenario? I dumped a Requiem mag into him. Second, has anyone gotten one of the noise-hating zombies to attack the singers? Didn't seem to work for me though he did btfo other zombies that ended up near a noise source.
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Our autistic self-wife
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>Final time: 4:00:28
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So why did Sherry get sick from T-virus when she already had G-virus which made her immune to everything
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I was just wondering this myself
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Damn that’s a shame not even gonna bother then
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Just decent pathing is all you really need, and playing on casual helps. Think what killed it for me was I was also doing no heals/no blood crafting so I had to spend a lot of time pussyfooting around lickers since I couldn't craft acid bottles to brute force my way through.
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Anon posted this on /v/, though others pointed out you can't carry any dolls. Maybe you can if you're carrying Emily after doing specific conditions but someone would need to test it out.
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AAAIIEEEEEE
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Yes, I just snuck up on him with the blood bomb, super satisfying
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That fucking sucks…
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>>558990316
I’ll take Sherry’s G antibodies. Having regeneration so extreme you can heal from a cut spinal column in seconds is easily in the upper echelon of what you would want from these things. She presumably never gets sick either. Pretty cool.
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>>559032042His "confession" of guilt to Alyssa might as well be hot air just to get her to adopt Grace. Victor, Spencer's #1 fan, outright says that Spencer made a giga cure purely to fuck over all the successor corporations that sprung up after Umbrella got forced into bankruptcy
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>He was comically evil in RE1
He was still comically evil in RE5, raving about being a god, and LiN actually shows he had a basement full of monsters, gladly sent test subjects to Alex, and he had a copy of Keeper's Diary that he probably reads for fun.
>I, Ozwell E. Spencer, founder of Umbrella as well as its chief executive officer, hereby proclaim myself as ruler of all mankind. Everyone shall prostrate themselves before me as they once did for the ancient false gods.
This is the first line of his memoirs from RE5.
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>>559032578
You can beat all scenarios with anyone (Weaker NPCs included, although the ones with lower damage modified would struggle on stages like Desperate Times). Alyssa is kinda whatever in Outbreak File#1 since there aren't a lot of places to use her lockpick, and her dodge has no I-frames, but you can still beat it with her, and she has the best stats and pistol shooting speed among the women. File#2 is much better for her since there are more doors to use her lockpick (Specially helpful in Wild Things and Underbelly), occasional places to use her lockpick to get extra ammo (Very helpful in Desperate Times' Very Hard, where a closet she can unlock gives her 10 extra shotgun bullets), and she gets potshot/critical shot, making her basically into Kevin with a dodge.
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>Does Alyssa know the extent of his crimes when she interviewed him? She should have knifed the prick
When Spencer brings Grace, Alyssa asks if she's another subject, so she has some awareness.
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problem i have is that grace clearly got memory flashbacks from the clones in on cutscene.
As well as the DNA matching up between her and the clones.
None of the backstories fully match up honestly.
>zeno and gideon think she is the origin, she is too young for that as the earliest known clones are from a decade earlier
>she cant be normal as her DNA matches the clones as well the memory bleed through clearly happening in one cut-scene.
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Her blood test actually shows that it matches with something, which's why Gideon and Zeno were so interested in her, so it turning out Grace is nobody special, who actually isn't connected with Emily, is a plot hole. It's also never explained why Zeno even thought Grace would know the password, specially since he had to explain to her about the password.
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>>559034238
The orphanage flashback might be Grace gaslighting herself into thinking she remembers what she's seeing on the screen or there's some blood memory shenanigans going on. I am willing to believe that Spencer wasn't being entirely honest during Alyssa's interview with him
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Zeno trusted Victor to be a reliable source on Spencer stuff but he had his own modus operandi independent of The Connections
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>>559034771
Wasn't that a DNA test specifically? showing that it matches, presumably with the clones as nothing else makes sense.
I recall several of those results specifically had to with specific parts of DNA, like the CYP2D6
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I will also add Grace got bit and showed 0 symptoms.
Also i find it a bit off sherry had the syndrome considering her regenerative abilities
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>>558988348
LOOKING GOOD. I never played FF before, would this be a fine place to start? I actually owned it on PS2, well my brother did. I was too scared to play it as a wee baby.
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>>559037252I finished the game at about 2 AM so my memory of the dialogue before the boss fight is a bit hazy. I'll have to do strap in for a 4-hour speedrun one of these days and make sure to pay extra close attention to all Gideon and Zeno cutscenes
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>>t. beat it solo with yoko(but with AIs because fuck actually playing it solo)
Is it hard to setup thep rivate server thing? Probably easier than getting over my social anxiety of joining a discord to ask to play with people, then actually play with people ha ha...
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I wish the Raccoon City Survivor who literally said she was determined to end Umbrella showed up AT ALL. Literally just her dusty beret and pictures we've already seen in RE2R
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Just beat Re9, started again in casual mode thinking I'd grab Never Touch the Stuff, Minimalist, and The Final Puzzle. I got 2 cubes for the door and i'm super ammo limited. Thinking i'll drop Minimalist and just do the other 2. That would still give me over 50k for unlimited ammo to make the rest of the runs easy.
Might pop bloodlust as well. I dunno. Do we have a meta on the easiest way to do unlocks?
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>>559040424
It seems basically raccoon city syndrome is like certain diseases or viruses that can lay dormant for decades. HIV hides in the body which is the reason why we cant really cure it, IIRC measles can hide in the body too or some common disease that can then reappear worse years down the line.
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Why is CAPCOM so based?
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And why is Chloe so thicc
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modGODS please get on the case we need you!!!!!!!!
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Alright, this is fucked up.I just got to the part where the giant monster kidnaps Emily and takes her down the hole. Out of morbid curiosity, I left the room to see if I could… and I can. Without any spoilers, does this mean I can just say screw her and go put the final piece in the door? I’m obviously gonna go save her but is anything going to happen if I look around some more or something?
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I only maxed her stabilizers for damage/accuracy. There's simply not enough empty injectors to max both stats, I think like five injectors total between the two antique ones and the three you get around the areas, so you're either going for something balanced or you're dumping the rest of the injectors into one stat. And frankly, it seems that steroids are near-pointless to bother with since Grace gets bullied for her health super easily.
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It is, but lets also appreciate the name "Grace"
Grace, or the salvation of sinners, is something granted to those who don't deserve it. The unworthyness of the recipient is what makes grace and mercy what they are. It was Spencer's hope that he could find redemption despite knowing he doesn't deserve it.
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They also have more ram than Series S
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I’ve made it up to Raccoon City
In the more open areas like this it kind bounces around the 40s through 60s but once you get back to the non open areas it’s back to 60fps
The worst performing part is the burning church part when you’re outside but once you get inside it goes back to normal.
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Scratch that, apparently the weird basement thing is still considered the care center? Weird. I definitely get that RE2/RE4 vibe from both characters. TheEmily segmentsmake me tense but I found myself really enjoying them too. Time will tell if people sour on it I guess but from what I can see everyone seems to really like her too.
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Nah all good also weird i mean they knew what they were doing we must no forget RE is usually made partially in japan as well as the west. Though interesting thought though can she really be sister and daughter, like saying if nani and lilo she's just a older sis trying to race her sister. Lilo will never be her daughter
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Also, I have to say that this games ink ribbon implementation is easily the best in the series. You get 1 ink ribbon for crucial saves, but the rest of the time youre juggling blood economy. My first run I was steuggling for blood. Like god damn I really wish I could save because my gamer insticts are twlling me I should. About to go explore a new area and who knows what gotchas and health/ammo taxes capcom has waiting for me. But what if and extra hemoshot would make the next area so much easier? Because in the early east wing they just straight up dont give you enough resources, which makes you stress for the rest of the game and turns making a ribbon from a tin quite an investment. My first run I used up literally all the blood in the main clinic.
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It sounds like it’s also got the biggest opening for the franchise ever on Playstation in the UK too
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Lights in there, but if you bring Emily up the stairs on the left wing of the building after doing the moon puzzle with the laugh you’ll hear a growl from the girl.
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Back when Revelations 1/2 was rereleasing on Switch 1 Capcom was looking into the idea of a major expansion to Raid mode in Rev 2. Part of the expansion would be Amiibos, figures of Jill, Claire, Tofu and Hunk would have been made, new levels made from scratch for it, and a potential 4 player mode.
Capcom shyed away from those plans because of how much they’d be putting into a port that was already pretty late.
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Why does the facility that houses bioweapons also have doors that automatically open themselves and can't be barricaded so in the inevitable case that they escape containment, they now have access to the rest of the facility?
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I still fucking hate what they did with Nemesis in 3R, especially as he only gets stronger as you kick his ass, unlike the originals where he actually slowly fell apart over the course of the game and changed quite a bit. And then the "oh we made a big deal of how realistic these games are supposed to be (that's why we changed Jill's outfit and personality) but then have Jill lift and fire a railcannon twice her size".
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The one room where you have to use the lighter to light 3 thing in a row... Is there a real solution to this puzzle because I just brute force it everytime starting with puzzle-y things like 2-3-1, 2-1-3, 3-1-2, 1-3-2, 1-2-3, 3-2-1, and boom... puzzle solved.
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>unlike the originals where he actually slowly fell apart over the course of the game and changed quite a bit.
It's actually surprising that remained unique to Nemesis in the franchise, and just like T-800, the fact he won't quit even when falling apart only makes him more dangerous.
>And then the "oh we made a big deal of how realistic these games are supposed to be (that's why we changed Jill's outfit and personality)
They said the same thing about Ada's costume choice but still had her wearing high heels, when in RE2 she wore flat shoes. These developers are full of shit.
>but then have Jill lift and fire a railcannon twice her size".
Don't forget that when she fired it, it created a small crater on the ground, which should have broken more of her bones but nevermind that.
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Yeah they need to stop with the muh realism shit it’s clear they know they can’t fully commit to it because the characters being action super heroes is clearly a large part of the appeal. I will say I don’t think original Nemesis was ever really falling apart, his final form is very much in the same vein as Birkin’s which I think is intentional to show they’re both absurd and ridiculous final bosses who take a lot to be put down
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Honestly, I was actually disappointed Leon didnt get a railgun. Gideon was actually a way, WAY, better boss fight than the railgun nemmy fight in 3R. I honestly hate the puzzle boss railgun thing, but I feel like Leon shouldve had a bigger flex for his last game.
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By the end of the game OG Nemesis is a pathetic wreck that has to absorb the body of a Tyrant to continue pursuing Jill, and even then it's a misshapen mess of limbs that's just crawling towards her, and not this towering giant monster that could squash her like a bug. And the OG is more intimidating for still going after he even when he's torn the fuck up and turning more into a misshapen mass of flesh, especially since it's not something clearly beneficial like RE3R's Neme-Dog or flesh titan forms.
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The twist is that Grace is a clone from Spencer's efforts to make little girls to mindswap into, like what Alex Wesker would eventually swipe for her own ideas of longevity. But the plan didn't work out, and eventually he adopted and then handed off one of the girls as a change of heart. Technically speaking, even if she was T-Virus immune thanks to withstanding the bite at the beginning of the game with no adverse effects, Grace is a lab-grown clone baby with nothing special otherwise to show for it. The ruse is that Spencer never disclosed shit about her for others to decipher properly, so Zeno, Victor, the Connections, all believe she was some child that got some mindswap or special treatment from Spencer to know the password all along without knowing an actual goddamn thing about the reality of the process, and they kept churning out more clones hoping they'd chance into the mindswap but never succeeded.
This entire game's plot boils down to "Spencer does a little bit of trolling by straight up withholding necessary information." As far as the plot is concerned, even for her abnormal origins, Grace is ostensibly normal as just another clone that didn't have the gratuitous fuck ups, and that's probably the entire point of Spencer calling her an "average child" as the first true success at artificial life without sociopathic Weskers or weird bullshit occurring.
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elpis cured her AIDS
elpis cured everyone's AIDS
we have, once again, found another cure for the T-virus(this is like... #5? 7?) but this one just cures everything ever so I dunno how the fuck capcom's gonna weasel out of this one
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yes, anon... there's a painting that says "light the queen, king, and jack"
that's 11, 12, and 10
it's not like the orb puzzle in re3 where you just wing it until you get an answer, it has its own solution right there!
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the game should have been 100% grace and diverged into a newer, better story once you escape the house. have the helicopter crash, but you fight your way out into the equivalent of the re7 guest house or the re1 guardhouse or the re4 castle. keep emily around and build up that bond between her and grace, have her waiting for you in whatever the new safe room is, and have this motherly role be what gives grace strength, like ripley in aliens.
have the game end with leon saving you like chris saved ethan in re7, then have re10 be the re8 to this game's re7, but you play as leon with a full power fantasy final hurrah
the game up until you leave the care center is literally god-tier amazing, everything after that sucks a fat fucking dick. the story is eye-rollingly bad, the gameplay is bland with only zombies to fight, it feels like you're being spedrun your weapon upgrade progression, the bosses are putrid dogshit, the graphics take a HUGE hit when you are in raccoon city in that ugly ass afternoon weather, and
i'm actually stunned. i went from loving this game and thinking it is a modern classic, to straight up disliking it and wishing i was done already by the time i got my first detonator item with leon. and it only got worse and worse. i feel like i've been gaslit and psyopped by capcom, they've gotten worse at resident evil despite making more money from it. it legit feels like a separate team worked on the care center + basement (sorta) compared to the rest of the game. i knew this was going to happen. i fucking knew the game would have been better with just one really good, cohesive campaign. i am so disappointed right now. how the fuck do you squander this shit? this repurposed 'might as well get some mileage after we invested in it' pseudo open world leon has makes me want to kill myself. all because they just had to fucking waste money and time on an open world and restarted development because it sucked balls
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if you want to get technical, maybe she could have gotten there faster and the guy would have lived and helicopter escaped. but no, she tried to pull up to avoid crashing headfirst into the ground and exploding, as the zombies were breaking into the cockpit and the pilot wasn't able to pull up
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I don't feel as strongly as you about the second half but holy shit thank you for this, I thought I was going crazy with all the 'masterpiece' and 'best RE since RE4' being thrown around when Leon's section is just a budget RE4, it's much better than RE6 but is that really where the bar is at? I actually thought Leon in the Care Centre was amazing though, it's in RC when it takes a million hours it feels like that his gameplay started to grate
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>>559085497I agree with that, but being cured from a post-death transformation should turn you into a fully cured dead body, no? I guess the only good explanation is that the virus brought her back so fast that she didn't suffer any long-term effects, but this still opens up a possibility for emergency medicine that I will be upset about if they don't expand on it.
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>No but I am still shocked that's an option
IMO it's arguably more stressful and unnerving to see her being so slow and fall/slip all the time. Adds extra tension to Grace that I think 1st person lacks. You can still peak around corners in 1st person.
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I agree with almost everything but I'm not mad about it. Leon's sections were fun to go through because the gameplay is solid.
The care center really is much better than the rest of the game, but honestly, 10 hours of just that can get tiresome. When I reached the sewer section I was already tired of Grace's gameplay.
The biggest flaw of this game for me is Grace's last ARK section. It felt rushed. Too linear and over-simplified.
Also hated the stuff they took from RE3make. That game gave me PTSD. The creatures in containers thing. The fucking final nemesis boss fight. Ugh.
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This kinda thing is what I mean when I say "The only thing wrong with this game is that it didn't come out in 2006."
If this were the Xbox 360/PS3 sequel to RE4 people would consider it one of the best ones ever, but it's new so everyone has to hate it
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Imo they did her dirty. Alyssa's personality traits from REO are that she's a harsh bitch, and you can tell that by how commanding she sounds in REO's gameplay when giving simple commands, and she refuses to obey your orders. RE9 made her into a more generic loving mother, and imo, that moment where she was comforting Grace was utterly retarded. Not only were they in a dangerous place, and doing that directly led Alyssa to her death, I don't see Alyssa comforting someone in a dangerous situation, she would tell Grace to suck it up to survive. Similar situations where it seems they killed a character (Jill in RE5, Mia in RE8) were fakeouts, but since Alyssa is from a spinoff, she's just disposable trash to make Grace suffer.
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nu-REs very clearly want to replace everything from the old games. RE4 didn't need a remake, yet they made one anyway. If they remake RE1 once again I won't be surprised.
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Fucking hell so Requiem is my first Resident Evil game. I have never been remotely scared by movies, TV, but now I am realising I am a huge fucking pussy. Really struggled with that super early section with Grace and 'the girl' where you have to get that fuse.
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It's a 8.0 or 8.5 for me
There are some minor balance issues like lack of scraps for leon
Raccoon city and Lab is far worse than Care Center
No new enemy type in the Lab is a huge miss too. Just lickerspam. In RE2 after you leave RPD you fight brand new monster in sewer and new plant enemies in lab. In RE4 after you leave the village you have novistadors, regeneradors. It really feels like it keeps building up in those games. Not so in RE9
I dread having to do Motorcycle and Orphanage again on replays
They should have done more incorporating Emily into survival horror management. Could have skyrocketed the game into 9.5 territory if they kept the quality and pacing from the center
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The lack of scraps for Leon was so ridiculous lol
By the end my gf and I were saying "Please be large gun powder please be large gun powder" and when it was we high fived each other and added it to the collection
Half of my inventory was large gunpowder lmfao
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Connections was making clones of Grace because they thought she was the key to unlocking Elpis. But Grace was a creation of Spencer that he gave to Alyssa because he regretted the whole thing and she ended up having nothing to do with Elpis anyway.
So why in the world was Connections making clones of Grace eight years before she was born?
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These children were used for human experiments by Spencer, then due to various "reasons" he had one normal clone made in 2004, that would be Grace whom was completely untampered with. The connections, made false assumptions and thought Spencer finally succeeded as she was the only seemingly functioning clone, and for that reason she must be the key to Elpis.
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The kids pre-1998 were used by Umbrella to test Spencer's blood experiments regarding the T-virus carrying memories in the plasma or some shit. Spencer failed and never achieved this. In 2004 he made "Grace" because he felt "guilt", which retcons RE5, but I guess he was a senile megalomaniac, so anything goes, really.
The Connections kept cloning Grace and using T-virus to try and "recreate" Spencers "success", except he never tampered with Grace, that is why the Connections kept trying and failing for 28 years. Spencer basically thought that if he can't achieve godhood, then all of his viral research was worthless and should be destroyed. So he made Elpis to burn it all down.
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Why do RE4 OG fans like to 'one guy' themselves and react to some shitty take they found online about how the game is old and outdated now, it's one of the most beloved video games full stop, it's considered one of the most influential games of the era and RE4 fans like to act like they're a dying breed, holy shit shut the fuck up.
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It specifically retcons Spencer's character. In RE5 Spencer was bitter and spiteful until the very end. He died in 2006, so between 2004 and 2006 he probably went fully senile and insane to not remember Grace, Elpis nor his guilt. But to be fair, there are files in RE9 that describe his mannerisms in his final years as schizo, so the retcon isn't big.
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Horror games absolutely mog horror movies and have done for a while now, you know watching a horror movie the heroes are going to get away but in a game that all depends on you and depending on the game the scares are more dynamic. Even for non scary stuff, I don't like a single horror movie over Resident Evil 2 or Silent Hill 2.
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Yes, handily. I mainly played it on PC but my gf has it on Switch 2 and it runs great, the Steam Deck version feels like a Switch 1 port
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Loving the new art we’ve been getting
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Literally my exact experience lol
Before I knew it I killed nearly everything when just hours earlier I was struggling to find ammo
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>>559098729
I honestly think Gideon's take is closer to the truth. Spencer was spiteful and bitter. The thought of someone coming along and using his lifetime of research to possibly achieve what he didn't most likely drove him to create Elpis as a final "fuck you". It ensures nobody can surpass him in a sense, since all his work is undone and anyone who uses Umbrella derived BOW's suddenly has nothing.
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>>559087697
*regardless
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I hate that you’re so right…
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>>559100014
https://www.nexusmods.com/residentevilrequiem/mods/94
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>>559098946
I looked rather autistically
there's a die hard reference but no outbreak references
capcom does NOT give a shit
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iirc everyone else went to go fuck with umbrella europe and jill stayed in RC to investigate umbrella there
presumably she did not expect birkin to chimp out like he did, given her boobiful outfit
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>>559099840
He wanted to use Elpis as a threat to manipulate the world and become kingmaker, Leon wanted to save people, so they are naturally opposed. Also this >>559100319
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This turned out to be fake. Great job to whomever did it
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This game is actually pretty decently long if you’re taking your time to look for stuff and taking breaks in between because of work and stuff. People who already beat it, were you playing literally all day or something or just rushing through to finish asap?
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>>559099156
like, BEGINNER pick? that's pretty easily the combat oriented mark and kevin
but alyssa is like a step down alongside david, especially because of her potshot skill
imo it goes like so
>most beginner friendly
Kevin because he's strong, has a kick, has the potshot ability, and comes with one of the strongest guns in the game
Mark because he's strong, has an upgraded melee attack, tons of health, comes with his own handgun that does more damage at close range than regular handguns, and has the highest strength of the cast
>almost beginner
Alyssa, has potshot, a stungun in file 2, and the lockpick, though the lockpick takes a bit of learning
David, has a knife, can combine shit to make strong melee weapons, a 3 hit knife combo attack, and the dreaded monkey wrench
Cindy, healer supreme, comes with her own personal herb storage
>not so beginner friendly
George, he's middling in terms of combat capability/health/strength and you have to learn how his pills work but his ampoule gun in 2 is pretty great
>hard mode
Yoko, lowest health, horrible strength, but she has 4 extra slots of inventory which is nice but she's almost useless in combat
Jim, Yoko but he can play dead and flip a coin that, with a heads, can make everyone around you do more crit damage? pretty sure if you get tails you just spawn 80 zombies, maybe that's just superstition
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What do you think the DLC for Requiem will be?
Mercenaries seems obvious, not having mercenaries in this game would be an enormous blunder.
I hope there a story DLC with the Houndwolf Squad, a little bit of Chris and following up on the ending of 8 with the bioweapon soldiers.
I just need the gameplay to actually be good and fun in the DLC like the Joe DLC in 7, Rose's DLC in village was just complete dogshit
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>>559101902
there's almost certainly going to be a wolfhound dlc since the final cutscene was what it was, and apparently there's 4 dlc flags in the eshop and I presume the deluxe edition is dlc1
so mercs, lady D, houndwolf, and... sherry paizuri dlc?
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Why would there be anything Lady D related
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I took thirty hours but I can explain
I played it myself up to the segment where Grace has to fight the stalker girl, so after the Leon sniper section, but then the next day I invited my gf over because she wanted to see it, so we started a new file and accidentally deleted my old one
I played on easy mode with her because she wanted to take the controller sometimes, so I had to start a new hard mode file again and speedrun back to where I was. I think technically my completion file was like 9 hours but it probably would have been 10 or 11 if not for deleting my save
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>>559101145
Cndy and Yoko sound like co-op characters, if you don't mind being a healslut or mule, but I can imagine it's pretty fun to have to place your safety in other more combat orientated character's hands on higher difficulties
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>>559095161
Mellowing out is fine in normal situations, but they were in danger since there could be more than one assassin, so Alyssa lost any survival instincts to have a terrible death just to soothe her dumbass daughter a little more.
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>Leon shows much more emotion in the remakes too
All the while he speaks in the most dead inside tone possible.
>>559096003
RE6 manga mentioned it, surprisingly enough.
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>>559103507
>Mellowing out is fine in normal situations, but they were in danger since there could be more than one assassin, so Alyssa lost any survival instincts to have a terrible death just to soothe her dumbass daughter a little more.
This is insane levels of nitpicking, god forbid someone get caught slipping once
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>>559099156
She's not as good of a beginner pick as say, Kevin or Cindy, but she has good stats.
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>pretty sure if you get tails you just spawn 80 zombies, maybe that's just superstition
Where did you get that from anon? Simply flipping his coin will prove that's completely wrong. But yes, Jim isn't really beginner friendly because of how fast his virus gauge is, and while his critical rate is nice, his real strength is Play Dead, which's by far the best dodge in the game since he falls forward, has a bunch of I-frames, and de-agros you.
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>>559103540
What do you mean? I thought RE4 was fine minus Ada. Saddler was great.
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They won’t, for better or worse if there one thing Capcom does it’s listen to their fans, at least when it comes to RE.
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Really liked seeing these guys again in Requiem.
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>>559103540
Its only ada. I remember luis being fucking good. Just that first ada scene with them two is fucking hilarious. Like having a person who never played an instrument and a professional musician performing together.
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>>559104232
She was caught slipping in a really uncharacteristic way and got killed for it. If she was killed in a way that felt fitting for Alyssa I would have less of a problem with it, but the way they did it was bad. Later on,Hunk is similar since he loses his personality of someone who's just careful enough, into a guy who refuses backup, Naruto runs at Leon, and the fight is overly focused on melee even though he never really used melee attacks that much, and got killed for it. Though unlike Alyssa you can say he's (somehow) still alive since his body despawns.
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The virus gauge always stats at 0%, save for a few NPCs, but even those start at fixed points.
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>start game
>grace has her shoes off in the office
>enter care center
>meet barefoot loli
>enter RPD
>flashback to evil ass barefoot lolis(who are bald)
>with the loli letters I discover the final fate of ||marvin's daughter||
>by finding her shoes, final letter, and then ||a charm where she presumably died||
>pragmata will prominently feature at least one barefoot lolibot
this is capcom's way of asking for forgiveness for what they did with DD2
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so RE9's story is based on the villains being so inept thatthey don't realise that Grace can't be the 'original' given the timeline, and if they'd just viewed the files she had on the CD, on her person when they captured her, they would have had what they wanted
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>>559107027
They didn't think she was the original, they thought she was the only successful one and hidden because of that
Took me a while to wrap my head around that because the game cares more about big reveals than explaining anything
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