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F-15I - Edition
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>Old forums archive:
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>Guides to Air and Ground battles + MEC
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=742852313
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1hgHbWlSjefFhCqOUeGpoKQntdQDPG3 2X7XQo9EqDF00
https://old-forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/438251-strategic-tip s-for-ground-battle-maps-36-maps-90 -videos-as-of-28august2020
>Guides on missiles, radars, radar warning receivers
https://youtu.be/Weghk_2DpfA
https://youtu.be/_tQ6JzPWEFU
https://youtu.be/DOGazUgUdsQ
https://youtu.be/wAtTS8xSYEc
>Guides on how to evade missiles and survive top tier:
https://youtu.be/AsmGiyODPuM
https://youtu.be/vUJJ94NwH_g
https://youtu.be/NbKcAdLoWDk
>Guided weapons statistics
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1SsOpw9LAKOs0V5FBnv1VqAlu3OssmX 7DJaaVAUREw78
>What tanks have thermals and their generations
https://thunderview.net/thermals/
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which tech tree should get the zis23 humvee?
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>>559063404
well it makes sense that they would be cheaper. they are suicide drones after all. i heard that some drones even used rotary engines. another L for the rotary engine community.
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israel
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I sure hope this hasn't already been reported and ignored
The issue is the lockon only checking a certain angle no matter where the contact is btw
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>>559036349
its all complete dogshit
only the vickers 9.3 pops off (because you can finally move as fast as most other heavies/mediums with no benefits outside this fact
a drone i guess.
the tripple barreled atgm is ok unless you on a hill(zero depression)
so youre forced to let people kill you to use it unless youre behind a literal flat object that you can shoot over(super rare)
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>>559064581
gaijin doesn't want to add the proxy fuse that starstreak has so it's basically impossible
you can get VERY lucky and impact a drone when shooting at it but it's liable to take more than your entire ammo supply
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>>559064258
>I sure hope this hasn't already been reported and ignored
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/DyCduNYkE2Q3
UH OHHHHHHHH
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>>559068119
mazda has managed to do it for le mans a 24h endurance race and even won it. but those things are basically two stroke engines with how much oil they use and burn so they don't get a pass on todays cars. they are really space, power and weight efficient tho.
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>>559064828
retard
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>>559068148
Touch grass dude
>>559068382
I'm having fun
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>>559068382
Fun? You are playing the wrong game dude. This game is a skinner box designed to get you to spend as much money as possible to unlock and collect vehicles. Fun hasn't been part of the picture in a very, very long time. I get why people still play it, but you should not expect anything to change, ever. They will milk you until the game dies out.
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>>559071416
They already don't if the missile is close enough and the afterburner is hot enough. It's not as simple of an interaction as a binary "on-off" switch and depends on the specifics of the engine, the missile seeker and the distance and angle between the two.
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Sexo
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MiG-29M (9-15)
Skin is just the one from 9-13, so UVs for the new parts don't fit
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>>559070473
Just 22 minutes at full A/B.
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>>559074561
Premium?
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>>559074783
Hopefully, then the MiG-29OVT (same thing but with full 3D TVC) can go to the protoshit line after the Yak-141 and the MiG-35 can go after the MiG-29SMT. No need for the MiG-29K at all, it would be redundant direct downgrade copyslop.
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>J-15T weights a whopping 18300 kg empty (Su-33 is 18970, Su-30SM2 is 18800)
>WS-10B is a nothingburger
china LOST
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>>559075284
ayo why is the resident avatarfag commenting on my titcocks
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Why doesn't Germany get the better Me210ca1 variants? Weren't they supposed to get like 2/3 of all Hungarys production?
I want to dab on mudsuckers with a 40mm bofors
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>>559077432
Takes the uniqueness out of Hungary I guess. Germany also didn’t any of the German aircraft in the Swedish and Finnish tree for example. Shouldn’t have given Ukraine IRIS-T that downed the entire Russian airforce near Kiev((((
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>>559077761
>three
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MiG-21SM which is just a lighter SMT with no flares at 10.0 when?
F-4D with no gun, AIM-9G, AIM-7E, and only chaff at 10.0 when?
10.0 flareless shitwagons with cracked missiles resonate with me for some reason, the J35D and Mirage 3C are my favourite jets in wt
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>>559077761
lmao anons btfo'd, only american tech is good enough to take down the goat. an su-35 could never
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>>559080071
Ah, I completely forgot that one was IR and not TV guided. Thanks.
I don't get why they make up weird lock range stats for these. The Penguin is listed at an absurd 55 km.
>>559080076
I can't test drive it sadly, never bothered reseraching the Stingray.
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>f15 gets shot down by sandniggers
>ACCKTUALLY... .WE DID IT OURSELVES
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>>559079905
Since it's an anti-ship missile it's going to be coded to refuse to lock onto anything but naval targets and since it's a chinese missile it will probably have have a flight path like the yj-81 that makes it dive down to just above sea level to skim across the water when it does lock onto anything.
The way the penguin works is that you can launch it to a vague area and it will lock into naval targets that happen to be within a it's purview when it gets within lockon range.
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Shit, nearly got my hopes up.
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>Mutts can't even come up with an objective for Reddit Fury besides sharting bombs everywhere and sucking off Israel
Between this and the four year special operation maybe WT really is a simulator with its sheer retardation
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>>559080453
Here. I checked some vehicles with adjustable suspension and it doesn't say anything there either, though.
>>559080783
>The way the penguin works is that you can launch it to a vague area and it will lock into naval targets that happen to be within a it's purview when it gets within lockon range.
No clue about this new one and the YJ-81, but launching in POINT lock and hoping something is in the FoV when they get within TRACK lock range is something that works with all other TV/IR guided AGMs. The problem is that your POINT lock range is somewhat related to your TRACK lock range, so you can't really extend the penguin remotely as far out as something like an AGM-65D.
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>>559081067
That seems..odd? Isn't that the standard sound output mode?
>>559081137
I never tried it myself, but that seems odd. Sadly it's not on the weaponry datasheet, I wonder what the seeker FoV is.
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>JAV Premium Me 210
I don't know, should probably appear in the WB shop eventually.
Nice that the Cuman ones are all tech tree i guess.
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>>559081171
Its peak risk reward, as in maximum risk maximum rewards, nothing gets your blood pumping like narrowly dodging pl5bs, or sahr jousting a mig 25, or knowing that if you overshoot the a10 you are diving on you WILL die
I have 7 kd in the mirage 3c
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Where exactly is the IR seeker? Also
>YJK
Do chinks REALLY?
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right there
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>>559081989
Do you even know what IOG is? It's a system that makes the missile continue one the implied trajectory it would have needed to hit the target if the other lockon methods didn't fail. IE it needs and IR lock first for IOG to even function.
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>Haven't played Naval in a while and feeling the mood for autistic speedboat combat in Arcade
>Apparently at some point they gave you auto aim in Arcade
>Instead of spastic shootouts everyone just beams each other now
Well this sucks. Guess I'll play RB...
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I actually like how this thing looks (except the color). It looks better than the ZTZ99.
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>>559082594
To be fair, the aiming really was too clunky for the masses before. Still, they didn't have to give players a LITERAL aimbot, making it account for your own ship's movement but not for the enemy's, like in WoWS, would've been a much better way to handle it.
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>>559082120
Lol no.
IRL you can use IOG without LOBL. The aircraft's radar or other targeting systems give the missile a relative coordinate to go look for targets and it flies there with inertial guidance
You're thinking War Thunder is real life, where all weapons need LOBL or line of sight, because Gaijin are afraid of autonomous seekers.
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>>559082120
almost all modern and near modern anti ship missiles drop before launch and then lock on after retard
it just follows the path the aircraft was taking and then the seeker turns on
we have this in game on the hawk with that ASM
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successfully triggered the military autists to explain to me something I know nothing about
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>>559083656
Does it replace all of them, or can you mix and match like IRL?
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>>559084089
You can mix and match, 1 big rocket slot is worth 4 small for intercepting ordnance
very balans)))))
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>>559081263
theyre not actually, i used to think the german DP guns were just navalized flak but apparently thats not true either
turns out its a completely separate KM project to move away from the old fashioned 2 piece guns to something (a bit) more powerful and significantly more modern (turreted, fixed ammo)
quick look at navweaps suggests theres even a (minute) difference in the actual caliber which probably means they couldnt share projectiles
having said that, i dont see why they couldnt have fitted a basefuze to these new HE shells. maybe they simply hadnt gotten around to doing so before playtime was over
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>F8F-1, F8F-1B, F8F-1B (France) — two 250 lb AN-M57 bombs, three 1000 lb Mk 13 Mod 0 mines, and one 1600 lb AN-Mk 1 armor-piercing bomb have been added. Sources: F8F-1, -1B Bearcat Standard Aircraft Characteristics - 1 September 1949; Pilot’s Handbook AN 01-85FD-1.
Say goodbye to using the 1000 lbs bombs on the Bearcat.
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Neat.
Hopefully they apply the tech to Stormer HVM as well, since it looks like they've done work on it to overhaul Starstreak. It'd be nice to have selectable Martlet missiles to go along side those improvments
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F-15E got a little buff I see.
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>>559085092
Skill issue.
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I'm not sure I understand what the buccaneer is meant to do at 9.3 or 10.7
I thought the new split BR thing would fix it but apparently having lots of guided munitions means you're a higher BR in ARB than GRB? It's all very confusing
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>Bored, decide to go back and spade old US vehicles I never finished
>Having fun for a bit
>Stuarts after the first one, the Kingfishers, and the entire Rank I collection of naval aircraft
I am no longer having fun
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>>559086654
They said Swedes were getting another vehicle but otherwise this is probably it
The MiG-29M might be a new rank 9, the next event vehicle, or might just be some accidentally leaked model like the Scimitars in the last update
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>>559087106
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If at first you don't succeed try again...
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I've been stuck here for a week wtf
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new splashes are pretty neatprobably looks amazing on the fullHQ client
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>>559087649
watch and learn
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>ZTZ96B is wonderful
>J-10C buffed to the heavens and beyond
>J-15T flies like a dream
>PL-12A is superb
Chinese Update of Glory
Chinese Century of Prosperity
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>>559090462
Why are you even replying to this gweilo?
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>>559090462
>thirdworldist
yeah he adds excessive europoor and amerigweilo garbageware
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>>559090901
Which always performs at its absolute minimum spec, but the chinese and the certain toothpaste flag country stuff always performs at its absolute maximum claimed performance from absolutely trustworthy sources and regimes, but then again I hear in DCS a lot of eastern bloc stuff is simply too weak to compete, you need some suspension of disbelief end of the day
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I hardly know her.
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so what new camouflages have they added
I only found the not-beryoza and its variants for modern russhit + the ww2 forest number 2
there's some new patterns for cold war chinks and some of them even look alright
but I genuinely don't see anything new for neither uk nor germany
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G9y4rGLie08
>Ukrainian Stugna ATGM is being adding
>comments are saying that Gaijin gave it a wonky flight path because they don't like Ukrainians
Russians tend to be less subtle with their grievances than most people; you can look at how the Escape from Tarkov developers handled the Ukraine war, for instance. It's more likely that War Thunder's ATGM physics aren't very good.
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>>559092709
oh so I guess it's the same for germans with pic rel
it's something at least
hopefully they won't stop at that
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>>559092418
Retards see an unfinished dev server and think everything is a finished product, happens every time, more news at 11. Post-truth NAFO retards are especially egregious for this matter.
Pic related, it goes straight.
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>>559093060
>things that are broken in dev server will be fixed before patch drops
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>>559092762
Because TOW-2B would be unusuable if it acted like TOW-2A. So they have different code.
In reality all missiles should act mostly like TOW-2B.
Small family company, please understand.
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>>559092848
That one was added for the germans before this update IIRC. I think it was on Dutch leopards first and the Krauts moaned that they didn't have it. Americans got that Sand+White striped winter camo at the same time.
There's a new desert pattern for some of the more modern German vehicles. Sand/Tan/Green instead of the GE Sand/Tan/Dark Brown GE one
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>>559087304
another sekrit tech is firing a hydra missle in the direction of an out of range heli, locking your aa missle on that hydra rocket and having the aa missle relock onto the heli after losing the hydra lock
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>>559093423
>hopefully they conjure up some camouflages for pastanigs next
Isn't this tricolor set for early-cold war Italy, new?
Unfortunately it's a GE camo but I don't remember if they had it before
Looks better than modern pasta CARC
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>One pixel above: 70mm
>One pixel below: 70mm
>Just the right pixel: 70mm+70mm
this can't be that difficult to fix.
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>>559094485
I don't think so - post war/early cold war italians always had this ridiculously ugly tricolor black/brown camouflage but I feel like it used to have a gray base instead of the greenish one
anyway I'd still like a few more - I think they're the only ones left with literally a single camouflage option that's not a base color - and even then it's GE locked)))
>Looks better than modern pasta CARC
I like the pasta CARC, it doesn't feel as vibrantly fake as the french or chink one
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>>559094886
French CARC is ugly vibrant IRL.
The colors are alright on the Italian one, but I don't think the pattern is right - too stripey rather than blobby. Should be more like the US/German CARC, but with different colours
The black is perhaps too black as well
Bong camos are still the worst - blurry and dirty looking. And most of the colors are wrong.
The modern 2 tone desert one has some grunge layer for no reason
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>>559094976
How could they just let you have them? They need to be researched for each individual plane.
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>>559093482
I think the standards of the average WT player are low enough that they would Oxy, if they can the ability.
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>>559095394
>too stripey rather than blobby
I think they just lazily took another pattern already in the game and switched the palette instead of designing it properly; i believe it's the only stripey CARC in the game, even the chink one is blobby
>Bong camos are still the worst - blurry and dirty looking. And most of the colors are wrong.
they're unironically the oldest in the game bar the universal ones for ww2 mutts
even sovoks and japs had a retouching somewhere between now and their release but bongs? nah, stuck with 2016 quality which was spotty back then as well
>French CARC is ugly vibrant IRL.
It is, but it's not THAT vibrant
obviously wear plays a big role but even on parade pictures none of leclercs are as shiny as the camouflages in game; they look like anton forgot to thin his paints
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>mog gweilo very bad
>seethe wave in the chat
LOL
why are gweilos so fragile?
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>Every lobby is infested with Chinese gods using their extremely accurate and natural aim again
>Time to hop off out of impotency i guess.
fixed it for you, gweilo
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>>559098373
you don't have to be chinese to simp for china, china these days is the third worldist folks' main hope against the western order since monkey erased 30 years of propaganda with the ukraine blunder, lots of people love china now
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The AIM-120D is literally a copy paste of the C-5/7 with just the guidance duration number increased
The C-5/7 itself is just a copy paste of the A/B with the motor changed (for worse), the warhead slightly increased and the drag number slightly decreased
Gaijin really wants us to believe the US changed absolutely fuck all between all these major revisions and improved the capabilities of the missile in no regard whatsoever in any way shape or form
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>>559100268
>gweilos are incompetent
more news at 21:00
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I'm bored, the greedful keeps me sedated enough so my mental illness doesn't take hold, but since I'm done with it, I got no reason to log in
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is le clem real or just a trailer prop like the exocet from the argie video?
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>These two planes are supposed to have the same camo scheme IRL, just different unit markings
How do gaijin's devs many to get this amount of variation when they have a million photos of the same subject?
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>>559098373
No, and they're* not even Asian bar the resident Flip if he's in on it maybe. The only resident Canadian poster i'm aware of is the pigger of Alberta (Calgary/Edmonton), gweiloposting is the usual 'cord Euros plapping on their new toys. *plural
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>>559102918
nah, it was the dark gray color ever since the paint scheme was introduced in 2012
https://theaviationist.com/2012/08/30/have-glass/
Before this, F-16Cs were painted in the type of camo seen on the game's F-16A.
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This is gonna be a lazy event or battle pass vehicle at some point, right?
G6 with the AS90 turret
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>>559100268
120D's inertial guidance speed drift is set to 0m/s instead of 2m/sa completely worthless stat because for something to be hit in IOG it needs to be close to the missile anyway
hopefully they actually give it increased burn duration or something to separate it from all the other missiles that just pull faster off the rail
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>>559102381
Might be a deliberate choice for identification purposes, Gaijin REALLY doesn't like giving planes that look essentially the same the same stock camos (MiG-23M vs MiG-23MLD, Su-27 vs Su-27SM, Su-30SM vs Su-30SM2, J-11 vs J-11A vs J-11B, JA37D vs JA37DI, etc).
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As a relatively new player, should I grind USA or Germany if I want to enjoy both ground vehicles and cas? I like german ground vehicles better, but I hear everywhere how good USA planes, so idk what to pick. Are german planes substantially worse or they are comparable in strength to usa?
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qrd on this fucker?
is just a AH-64D but with skies?
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>>559105270
yes
at first it was called lightweight and was limited to eight hellfires
but bvvd realized that not only that's retarded but no one will buy it either
so now it's just
>all-terrain
and is a copypaste otherwise
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>>559105578
indo hind is a tech tree chopper
nips used to have the anime cobra but that got removed
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>>559105832
it's a pack premium
prolly 50 bucks?
it will get taken off store in half a year though and 100% will cost 9k once they rerelease it
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>tech tree
oh wtf i was under the impression it's a premium
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>>559105270
No Longbow radar so might be lighter as the original name suggested >>559105372
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>>559106114
the lightweight assumption comes from the fact that it was called
>AH-64DJP (LW)
on the devstream
and I've got some memories of reading about some ski-equipped nip apaches struggling with weight limitations in the past or something like that
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>Battle rating (BR) is a value used to determine matchmaking in War Thunder. Battle rating is a number assigned to every aircraft, ground unit, and naval vessel in the game that correlates with their effectiveness in combat.
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>go test fly some frog naval planes the new carrier
>catapult doesn't work
>no arrestor cables
Mitterrand you bastard!
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My biggest gripe with the engine is how the maps are infinitely repeated at the edges. I mean how hard can it be to make an EXTREMELY low-fidelty version of Earth using publicly available heightmaps and satellite imagery a-la Space Engine and plop the maps somewhere onto it? Climbing on Malta and seeing other Maltas repeated ad infinium in the distance is so immersion breaking.
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the reason why some games have a different headphone vs speakers sound mix is because speakers tend to have a better soundscape which in turn results in your brain being able to tell sound directionality better and more naturally than with headphones (and no your GAMING ELITE KILLER 7.1 SURROUND HEADPHONES are a gimmick).
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The F-15 has been shot down by SAMs before. It is still undefeated in A2A.
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Still gonna be dogshit if they don't fix the underlying FM.
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Not severely obese + reworked airframe + stronger engines + 2 more pylons.
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I started France but I get fucking rolled
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I've tried but also not enough bans
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>>559086786
they didn't say it was impossible
they just said they wouldn't change the entire UI in a single update, but rather they would work their way on updating it step by step, specially the rougher interfaces
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it's kinda funny to see the average /v/tards thinking they understand how engines and development work just because they wasted their life playing videogames
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>but all pictures i see makes it just look like it has the standard 6
It's using an unfinished model, doesn't even have a proper texture (the 9-13's texture is crudely stretched over it instead, leading to garbage where the UVs don't match) and is using the SMT's FM.
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>catch Merkava from behind
>fire 120mm dart directly into the ammo rack up its ass
>spall vanishes into the ether
>dart somehow deflects off the ammo
>bounces around and yellows the turret ring
fucking what
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Almost as if they’re the most modern tanks built with modern propellants and protection in mind. Why do you think their losses are so low despite fighting against and endless horde of chinese armed brownoids?
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namers could go to 10.7 and still be dogshit because of the ((((((((((external electronics))))))))))) that cripple the tank when destroyed, and the ammo being nearly depleted when hit unlike stronk exposed pidornator belts that only detonate 30 at a time and ))))))))))))) krok era + armor compared to the namers worse than rubber composite.
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>common brown incomptence
>burger missile systems
>multiple layers of safety checks on patriot systems
>more likely that centcom didnt have the proper iff codes for their own planes
whatever you say angloid...
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it reminds me of something but i can't put my finger on what it is
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mb326 and f84g simply because they're free spading rp pinatas with how handheld they are despite the rank difference
mig15/17
saggy
104g is workable but you're gonna get run down by just about everything nowadays
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thank you for your service Igor Pashkov
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>wallaah da jooz
>wallaah da Americans
Meanwhile this never happened when Americans or Europeans for that matter operated American equipment. Musjeets lost btw, imagine being more hated than Indians and spics
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Why is this turd 10.0?
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>Two premiums with single digit player levels crash on takeoff
>Another four all rush at the same base to bomb it, three will be TK'd before they get there
>A full quarter of the team is a bumbling swarm of A-10s
>Game is basically over in under a minute
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>Why is this turd 10.0?
nigga it's inline with every other 10.0-10.3 wheeled 105mm TD
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The Leclerc was just too good honestly. It needed this.
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rdf is dogshit according to mutts
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>look directly at scouted Turm III
>600m away
>goes half behind a building
>vanishes out of existence
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>got 3 kills on my Mig-21
>about to get my guns on an F-5
>suddenly 999 ping and get teleported into the ground
Yeah, of course
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>literally not allowed to see the nigger begelfaggot over hill
>he can see your entire turret and mantle and shot you willy nilly and you cant shoot back, oh and youre penned no matter where youre shot because your "armored brick" is actually, made of paper and completely flat from every direction a person could possibly shoot you from
such a sickening faction to play
nothing good could possibly come of it
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>filthy chinksect can't stand jvp bvll getting a nuke
>too cowardly to even teamkill so he flies his scrapheap La-9 into my B-29
Chinks are the lowest form of life.
Also Jap 6.7 is excellent, tons of good options.
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>F-16 Block 52
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>Chinese comrade fulfils his national duty and sabotages a crapanese infrahuman
very based
crapan nuked again soon
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>western mbts get turret baskets modeled in a retarded way to nerf them beyond being shit
>slavbeast troonions still absorb all darts and spall and don't affect gun handling when destroyed, autoloaders still act as spall liners
working as intended cumrade)))))))) you buy golden birdies now, yes??
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reminder you can just take asymmetric rocket pod loadouts and your rockets will always land on the exact aim point
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Achilles was a uniquely British version, and they used words beginning A as codenames for tank destroyers
Jackson was named by Americans once they adopted the previously British habit of naming American-built tanks after American generals (Lee, Grant, Sherman, Stuart)
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j-15 will have graviton tractor beam technology and a matter replicator like on star trek. It's old technology in China btw, known since the 90s.
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>meh
>worst ground vehicle in the game that isn't French rank I or that Hungarian armored car
>average
>pretty good
>enemy never spawns planes when you're in a Zero
>pretty good if you don't get uptiered and have to dodge Shilkas
>average SPAA
where are these 'tons of good options'?
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I just think it's neat.
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Enjoyable aeroplane
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yeah
the F-4J/F-4S is the best phantom because at least you can do something in uptiers
and you avoid the 13.3 flanker slop that F-18s get anally raped by
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>>559140204
It's your lucky day anon:
https://warthunder.com/en/news/4525-development-t14-the-ground-assault -tank-en
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i member when cl6769 was the best round in game
and then they added dm53
italy suffer ((((((((
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>ARB
>If I ground attacker the entire enemy team is on the deck
>If I play a bomber the entire enemy team is in low earth orbit
>If I play a fighter most of my team is lawnmowing
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>imagine being more hated than Indians and spics
Dumb to include "spics", literally no one hates latinxes besides other latinxes
The most hated group of people on Earth are the Jews, easily, and in spite of all the manipulation done by Jewish organizations to control public opinion.
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