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>Hunter Narman says: Dawa! I must ask-
>Windsage Dawa says: Narman! I've brought you here to ask-
Dawa pauses for a moment in confusion and then laughs.
Narman errupts in laughter.
>Windsage Dawa says: Did we just?
>Hunter Narman says: We did. Want to get married?
>Windsage Dawa says: More than anything. I love you.
>Hunter Narman says: And I, you. More than anything
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I don't care that it will never happen, I think the art is kino
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>assassination gets fucked if combat is too short because your dots dont get enough time to pay off
>assassination gets fucked if combat is too long because you run out of energy and can't maintain dps
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What's on the docket today wowg
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stop trying to make rogue work
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>raid Scarlet Monastery for the 800th time in Arator’s quest
>kill everyone EXCEPT the female named mob
>she says the crusade are heckin chuds and then joins you at the Sunwell
Lmao they really can’t help themselves, can they? When was the last time a woman paid for the consequences of her actions in this game?
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Someone mentioned cast slop last thread, what do you mean? Ever since I can remember I keep my interrupts and silences on my fastest mouse keybinds, and when I see a bar start moving and its not gray I just interrupt. Don't care what it is, don't care if its not optimal. It mostly works fine and it fucking us over has only occured on rare instances, even in PvP I've managed gladiator and elite on SS doing this, always interrupting the second its off CD on literally anything I see. Fast enough to almost never give precog.
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she gets fucked
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Let's fucking go!
>Prey hard awards Veteran gear
Yeah, kino. Fuck M0.
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>They invade from Draenor with an absolutely massive force because the entire planet has been planning an invasion of Azeroth for years.
>They go in separate directions and do lightning strike attacks against the Horde and Alliance.
>Garrosh quickly takes over Orgrimmar, disbands the Council, and then names himself Warchief.
>Races like the Belves, Tauren, Mag'har, and Nightborne join willingly.
>Yrel heads towards Stormwind and after a few small skirmishes captures the city. She deposes Anduin and makes herself supreme commander of the Alliance.
>Any who resist will be put down.
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Gosh, I wish bimbodoreis were real
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idk really, was just wondering because I just noticed I haven't done any dungeon and only did 2 delves that were in the main campaign so I was mostly wondering if I missed any stuff like that by not doing side quests
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>light being used in Hallowfall to fight off rapefish, spiders and spreading darkness
>everyone loves it and gasses up the Lamplighters as heroes
>Light being the only thing to hold back a world-ending invasion force and saving an entire civilization of elves
>"errrm, actually light might be bad!!!"
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20 year old game that looks 17
it can run and jump just like a young man
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#showtooltip Single-Button Assistant
/cleartarget [dead]
/targetenemy [noharm]
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/stopmacro [channeling]
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/cast Zenith
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>What's on the docket today wowg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rEg_6Hs71Cg
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Don't show this to the anon that was spamming that one quest about dead scar...
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with feral druid opener, should i use tigers fury from stealth to empower the empowered stealth move but waste the energy? or wait until after the first empowered stealth move, missing out on tigers fury damage bonus for the stealth move but getting back energy?
it seems like no matter which way i do it im losing something but idk which way is best practice
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Arms or fury warrior for PVP in this expansion?
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>mfw I only do follower dungeons because I can call them faggots and niggers and not get in trouble
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>Bird: Zul'jarra, your grandfather was a dick, he only wanted us to kill his enemies
>Also Bird: Thanks for offering the heads of your enemies, Zul'jarra, yes, I will help you kill your enemies, no worries
uhhhhh..... ok
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You all don't get it. The reason why the market is dumping so hard is because there are no semi-hardcore raiding Guilds or players left in this fucking Critical Role wanna be game.
If people were competitive and wanted to hit certain ilevels fast for le mythic week they'd be leveling professions, instead many people have opted to just make gold which indicates that a lot of people probably aren't planning on staying for very long past the first month or so and plan to play casually.
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Modern Blizzard could never
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>bitching about retcons
TBC called and they have you tissues for your issues because retcons are the bread and butter of WoW lore you simpering imbecile.
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>no argument
I accept your concession, imagine getting this big mad over WoW lore, Metzen would be proud.
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Everything post-Legion is a retcon on how the Light works.
>oh muh scarlet crusade
The Scarlets were always depicted as an extremist group that misused the Light’s gifts, much like how Garrosh’s dark shamans misused the elements. This did not make the Light or elements evil because they made people go fucking crazy.
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>"there are just some mechanics you just simply have to suck it up with lol"
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My god, Harandar might be the most vertically confusing zone ever created in World of Warcraft. The area does a terrible job of telegraphing quest destinations—you’ll think your objective is upstairs in a building, but it turns out to be underground instead.
Whoever designed this zone NEEDS to kill themselves, immediately!
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my worg was deflated
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Why are professions so needlessly complicated now?
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>Light isn't actually divine it's actually just a cosmic force and LE SCIENCE!!!! and every Paladin and Light worshiper ever is wrong!!!!
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oh no no no
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Hm what could they have meant by this
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Works on my machine.
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>there's basically nothing to do for 2 weeks now
I have 100 max level alts. If I want to spend 2 minutes on each of them that is three hours.
I'll say that again: 2 minutes for you in this game is 3 hours for me
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>why the fuck did they do him dirty like that?
In universe reason? He's been doing this for centuries now and has seen way too much of the worst of the void and legion. Is that supposed to have zero effect on a person's character? I mean his fucking wife has been lost to him basically, the man is in a bad spot.
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>>559221505
every time I've seen turalyon in wow he's been an insufferable retard
i was only a little babby kid when I played warcraft 2 so I don't remember him there but I guarantee he was an insufferable retard then too
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>Look at launch trailer
>Alliance player characters
>Alliance player character
>Alliance player characters
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>Alliance player character
>Oh right, Horde exist too, uh throw an Orc in at the very end with Lor'themar and Liadrin.
I almost feel bad for Horde.
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Did I brick my tailor by starting increased cloth drops at 25 and putting 30 points into that first before unlocking rare cloth (started with sunfire drops) at 50 skill? I need more KP to unlock Arcanoweave and i'm wondering if I should've gone for rare cloth first
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Opps meant >>559221892 for >>559221683
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I love guns and I really hate how shitty the gun sound effect is for hunters. Rogue gets a better sound which really confuses me.
Id love to make more hunter alts but the playstyle is so boring I always give up quickly. I wish we got a new ranged class that wasn't animal themed.
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>>559221579
What divinity would light have, that the void or arcane or fel not also have an equivalent of?
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Naaru aren't any different from player characters. They're just living creatures that can channel the light. They do not own or create the light.
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>WoW lore has an Essence-Energies Distinction
Huh
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>Revantusk are led not only by a woman but a child
who writes this shit?
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Is there a way to sync all options and stuff with all my characters? The edit mode profiles keep missing a ton of shit I have to manually tweak every time I make a new character
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horde is humiliated since wotlk/cata, one man for himself since those days buckbroke them
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>le light is le BAD
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regent
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grats. i've got one more achievement left for that, and it's the world quest in azj kahet one. so i'll finish it in about 6 months because blizzard not only puts WQs on a random rotation but also gives them a rarity as well
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Everyone saw that the moment it was announced. It was part of why the gamescom announcement was so fucking underwhelming.
The show was basically
EXPANSION FEATURES:
>new race that was freshly asspulled as soon as yesterday
>one (1) spec that's a lazy recolor of an existing spec
>three new talents for your talent three
>prey system
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>>559222701
They really should've dropped a Blood Elf trading post to celebrate Midnight's launch. But these devs suck off Alliance elf races so hard, Horde Elf races are playing second fiddle to them in their own land.
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Trying to make gold after I pretty much nuked my account's gold total buying cash shop stuff is being very painful. Way too often I've spent it all and can't keep doing my gold making until the AH sales arrive which takes like an hour. Repeat.
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I haven't played since cata. Why the fuck can draenei and super draenei be warlocks
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Power is not good or evil. It's what we do with power that is good or evil. Now replace "power" with light or void. Wah freakin lah
This theme is built into basically every fantasy story, including LOTR, the undisputed king of high fantasy. How do you guys not get this? Or is it just a subset of internet christfags that are mad that their obvious stand-in (The Church of The Light) is the villain for once?
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>Game focuses near exclusively on Alliance characters, and has been for the past decade
>Every aspect of the game gets worse and worse
>Overwhelming amount of people stating that Warcraft has lost its image
Surely just a coincidence
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>>retarded religioncucks can't even handle the problem of evil
>Oh I'm liking the light focus in Midnight, its great.
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>fent dance
>fent elves
>african roots
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>>>retarded religioncucks can't even handle the problem of evil
>>Oh I'm liking the light focus in Midnight, its great.
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>soldier of the army of the light who decides not to immediately kill every demon but instead takes them prisoner and forces them to fight their kin
eh, I've seen worse character concepts
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>>559223954
If haranir came out 20 years ago their dance would've looked like this instead of the retarded shit we got
https://files.catbox.moe/v0rol1.mp4
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making gold isn't winning to me, mythic raiding is, and i already spend 9 hours a week doing that. i literally don't have the time to gold farm and it's not a rewarding part of the game for me anyway, it's more of a means to an end
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okay but your entire universe falls apart under a microscope if you decide to retcon everything divine because you're an atheist Californian and have a laser focused hatred for religion misunderstanding how high fantasy universes are constructed and immediately thinking it's some kind of dogmatic religious thing and needs to be thought cancelled
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At no point do they have a divine source which is omnipotent or exists outside of this structure. All of these forces are in effect, natural sources. Demons are not the source of fel, they are aliens which utilize fel. This was established even during the RTS games.
You are trying to ascribe Christianity to this game, and it doesn't work that way. You are doing the same thing faggot christian nerds did to star wars EU, that just made Luke into Jesus and turned the whole thing into a thinly veiled Christian mythology.
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How much does Samurai-esque light wielder makes sense WoW wise? Essentially a weeaboo flavor of paladin but not quite same as the paladins you know instead of hammers and righteousness it's lighting fast combat and mastery of katana...
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If someone comes to you saying "hurrr duurrrrrr you can just swipe your card to buy carries and get all mythic gear funneled asap so you can skip the whole edngame hurrrrr" you'll look at them like a retard who is completely missing the point of everything.
Now when you do that same thing to someone who enjoys making gold, they'll give you the same look.
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>>559224397
idk who that guy is but the first jak was posted by me but I think he doesn't understand what i'm arguing for I don't care about good or evil or religion at all
only proper cosmic alignment and divine origins in your mid tier fantasy universe made by Chris Metzen™
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Japan doesn't exist in WoW.
Do you mean he has a katana, and by that is it from pandaria or from blademaster orcs?
He can just be a paladin that interacted with those people and liked their swords and styles. Same way crusaders in real life picked up falchions.
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>>559223557
Why are we still talking about this. It's an elementary fantasy theme. Get the fuck over yourselves and stop trying to make it about religion or your beef with California. Jfc the story is contrived enough without you retards overanalyzing it
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Every single zone's story so far has had the tone of a kindergarten teacher lecturing me about basic morals. What the fuck is this shit?
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>dude yrel will come back
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this is how i reach the divinity of the light
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NA status?
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Non-race specific, can be anything. Not a paladin in the traditional sense culturally or combat wise *just* that he's a light wielder in combat which enhances and gives him extra abilities. Think a hybrid monk-paladin whose really good with swords, plenty of moggable katana looking swords though
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>Light GOOD okay?!??! I NEED Light to be GOOD okay?!!??! Christ is kang!!!!
Give it a rest, chuds...
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>>559225982
Okay I like half read your post, just do that, I'm not sure what you're even asking. If the cognitive load is too much for you and its something this specific and autistic you need validation with, just ask an LLM.
Just download LM studio so your cringe conversations don't get reported to Israel.
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AIEEEEEE
BLIZZARD WHY ARE YOU MAKING LIGHT LE EVIL?
I'VE BEEN A PALADIN MAIN SINCE VANILLA AND A LIGHT FANBOY SINCE WARCRAFT 3REEEEEE
HOW CAN YOU FORSAKE ME LIKE THIS, FORSAKE THE LIGHT. THE LIGHT DINDU NUFFIN. YREL WAS IN THE RIGHT, THE SCARLETS WERE IN THE RIGHT. TURALYON IS IN THE RIGHT. LIGHT ISN'T LE BAD, IT'S LE GOOOOD. VOID IS LE BAD, VOID IS LE BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAD
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Its funny since most of these players don't even understand what they're saying. To them, any opinion they have or action they take is good, because light good. That is their core argument, which we already see is not true since WCIII....
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>>559224786
I don't even think of myself as Christian irl never went to Church much I actually hate Christucks, but yes the forces of Fel and Void DO have heavily implied divine godly sources in this universe of otherworldly origin one which since has been literally killed off canonically and moved over to "void lords" whatever the fuck that means, by the dogshit nu writers, and the other stopped making sense in Legion and still has no solid explanation which it did before btw, thanks for letting me know you're arguing completely in with bad faith with the "at no point" kek
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>will not reach 90 before reset
it's over, I'm gonna be permanently behind, never to catch up to paypigs
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OH!!!! So then when Uther refused to follow arthas and cull stratholme, he could no longer use the light, or was that also good?
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>>559215905
uhhh rogue-san, your Sudden Demise?
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>FEL GOOD
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old amazon was better
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I hate how all these lesser races are ruining /our/ city....
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>>559227605
Uther leaving because he didn't want to murder civilians is not wrong, no, even if he was wrong in the end. Your understanding of morality is so poor that I can see who this dogshit story is being written for.
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>>559228085
>Lightcels ever compete
>compete
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>>559227935
join <Nerub Silkweaving Forum>
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the ai generated quest conspiracy grows
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>>559228245
So you're saying Arthas WAS murdering civilians, and could still use the light?
The Scarlet Crusade in classic utilizing the light for their purposes is not out of line with how the light is being utilized in midnight, nor how it was in the narrative of WC3.
You're just a bestially stupid nigger.
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>>559228470
Nope. You should really try going back and finishing high school, your media comprehension is on par with a third grader.
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>>559228253
I unironically liked this cutscene, illidan casually erasing their fucking leader like it was nothing.
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Tip: if you're experiencing the graphics crashing over and over (like when everything freezes and then restarts and reloads starting from an untextured mess of a world) switch your API to DX11. It only happens on DX12
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>>559227609
yes, the cosmic forces as i've said have no divine origin anymore or mystery behind them nor are they backed by divine entities, it has been slowly getting dismantled since DF
they are just like water and fire and had all the spice and depth removed from them because redditfags hate anything to do with gods and divinity for some reason
and the entire story's conflict is being moved over to liberal identity politics victimhood victim worship trash shit that makes me want to fall asleep
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>>559229224
leveling experience as far as I understand as a new player:
>tutorial island or vanilla start to level 10-> dragon isles or your choice of chromie time to level 70 -> the war within til 80 -> midnight
apparently you can unlock some stuff in certain chromie time campaigns, not sure if they're useful tho.
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>>559229224
You can reach max level in like 5 hours if you want.
Fresh out of the gate at 80, when your character is still strong do ALL the delves, take the quest you get inside but do NOT turn it in.
Then do the mainquest until you reach ~86/87, turn in all the delve quests, now learn a few jobs for the first time crafting XP and you will be 90 after 20 minutes of crafting basic shit.
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Can't wait to see them make Zul'jan into the final boss because every male with a pair of balls needs to be ritualistically humiliated.
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>never ending cosmic force slop
So this is wow now
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>The Bilgewater were never apart of the Horde, only a few chose to be allies of the Horde. They're neutral, really.
You are here >The Raventusk were never apart of the Horde, only a few chose to be allies of the Horde. They're neutral, really.
>Quel'thalas was never apart of the Horde, only a few Blood Elves chose to be allies of the Horde. They're neutral, really.
>The Horde was never apart of the Horde, only a few members of the Horde actually chose to be allies of the Horde. They're neutral, really.
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They're keeping Death far away from this xpac in general and idk why.
>no DKs when this is the ideal place for a Koltira storyline
>no Bwonsamdi
>no Vol'jin when he's the new Loa of Kings
We only had the maw segment.
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>>559231040
Do you know where you are anon?
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>Rogue T8 looks like a sad penis
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>>559228629
>Illidan
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>They must be european? But I can kinda see it.
You mean Americans let Jews steal their foreskin even if the baby isn't a Jew and then lie about it being hygenic and not to reduce sexual pleasure? Weird...
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All Warlocks have been canonized as anti-social outcasts now thus every class can be them. Just like every class can be rogue because any race can be conniving. I don't love it, but under that logic it's sound enough I guess. It's entirely extrapolated off of of the Vanilla Alliance Human experience though because Orcs, Undead, Dark Iron Dwarves, Gnomes, and Belfs have all had societally permissable warlocks throughout WoW.
The logic really falls apart on Haranir as the Haranir literally use the Warlock toolkit before they've canonically left Harandar which how the fuck would they know how to do that. There's at least the vaguest explanations of how Earthen and Dracthyr are the classes they are. (though Dracthyrs whole "they learned how to be other classes from mortals" explanation for other races completely clashes with the 10 seconds of starting area you get as you get thrown into the original "waking up out of stasis" opening area)
I also don't think the hoof races should have ever been Rogues but at least the actual OG team set that up in Legion with the Tauren and Eredar rogues
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>>559223495
>Tauren and Draenei Rogues
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>Gnome and Orc Priests
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Dranny's got Warlock's around the same time Dranny's got Eredar skins.
Ultimately the writers will hand-wave it and say only the red ones are summoning Demons, but like all the choices made during Dragonflight - Midnight, it's being made for the sole sake that the devs can canonize their RP character ideas on Troonguard.
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>heroic random queue as shadow priest
>top damage on trash
>tank is second
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>still pushing top on bosses but it's closer
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>male night elf priests
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>>559232024
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Being undead doesn't stop you from learning undead stuff, it helps.
Undead priests (Forsaken and Zelik) burn and feel painw hen they use light based magic.
Undead being DKs is just being Magical undead warriors with a need to cause pain and suffering.
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>Why is being sneaky and knowing how to craft poisons so impossible to comprehend for certain races
Have you ever heard a hoofed animal walk? I can understand why some LA Californians might have never seen a horse in their life and not see the issue.
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There are two types of Worgens in WoW: the first generation, created by the Night Elves, and the second generation, which we play as, composed of humans bitten by the first generation. No doubt they have different properties.
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Why would orcs ever have nelf women? Least of all my fem nelf dh wifey!
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>world design is now so irreparably fucked from having to accommodate the 800% speed mounts that literally every point of interest (quests, vendors, any building) has to be spaced 30 feet apart from one another so Lil Zoomie doesn't crash his heckin dragon into something and unsub out of anger
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8kr7BKP5amM
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>TWW warband leveling bonus still active in midnight
I'm sure most people are happy with this but fuck me man, I just wanna level slowly through old expansions. why the fuck cant I turn this stupid shit off?
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idk if my group was retarded but two of the boss in there just shit out damage that healers struggle to heal through, saw another group in group finder looking for a person because someone left at the last boss (which was aids)
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>Draenei Warlocks
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>NOOOOOOO NOT MY HECKING LIGHT BAD
Why do the retards forget "le good and le bad" are human concept and are meaningless in a cosmic scale ?
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I got the wow itch, but my favorite class is fucked beyond repair? Thanks for saving me time
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>every single feast recipe in midnight requires one petrified root
>you get two feasts per root, and you need 10 feasts to make a hearty one, so you'll need 5 roots to make a single hearty feast
>there are only 2100 roots available in the entirety of EU region's AH after 3 days of EA and 1 day of normal release
>this means you can only create 420 feasts for the entirety of europe
>roots are ALSO needed for every single gem recipe, every single enchant, LW armor kits, oils, flasks, cauldrons, whetstones, basically fucking everything
ok so this shit will obviously mega giga turbo skyrocket once the season starts.
but this shit's droprate is obviously undertuned hard, so there's a big chance blizzard will buff the droprate which will tank your investment to zero
is my thinking right? it just feels weird as fuck that blizzard made every single fucking thing you can think of require roots
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>>559236641
Except Frieren doesn't kill demons because they are evil but because they are demons and it's in their nature to harm others.
Is a dog evil because it can easily feed on beef meat as much as with human flesh ? don't think so.
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>>559237726
So many Elves. I'm tired of it. Just condense them all to "High Elf" for both factions, it's fucking annoying. Everytime these fags have a traumatic experience they collectively call themselves something else.
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>What is the Scarlet Crusade
>To this day STILL has Light users
He's a retard but come the fuck on man, it's not new. Though I guess misguided Zealotry is different than "Le Light corrupts" shit. God they really are just ripping off Shadowbringers.
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>>559220943
Never ever play with people like this. This is the kind of faggot that says he has a homebrew Paladin Oath of Brutality where he needs to rape and murder because that's his oath haha, teehee, but he's a PALADIN.
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>>559215905
Rogue is a fucking mess and Assassination is one of the worst specs in the game.
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>The whole animal kingdom do that to feed each day does that make them evil ?
No animal tells lies to another in order to kill and eat them.
>Evil or Good is just about labels to things that could potentially benefits or endanger human beings
Yes? That's the whole point. It's not some deep subjective question. Good and Evil exist, and forcing the good guys to become evil because le ebin subversion is plain retarded.
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It's never been about doing bad deeds means you get no power, it's always about having belief in what you're doing is righteous grants you the power.
Arthas can purge Stratholme with the light, because in his mind it's the righteous act.
Anduin can lose his connection with the light after being mind controlled, because he has doubts about himself and doesn't believe what he did back then was righteous.
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Why the fuck would the Haranir join the Alliance at all?... Just because of the player character?
Also what is going on with the Haranir allied race shit? Their acquisition quest is just talking to Lorthemar and then you get their weird little intro quest zones which feels like a literal tutorial for someone who has never played the game despite having to play it for a considerable amount of time to even unlock them
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Lore wise Undead priests twisted the light creed into shadow, that's, the light wielding priest was just alfor gameplay. The undead plague cuts people from the light (used to at least) and was resistant to its heals and cleansing
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It's the most common fucking complaint by grandpas on here and everywhere else
>HURRRR ME WANT HIGH ELF HURRR ME WANT OGER
Wish they'd fuck off to Turtlewow and wank themselves to death as human/high elf paladins. Maybe then we'd get some peace and quiet from these memberberry slurping bitches.
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their lore is absurd and so are their aesthetics
at first glance you think "oh, it's metzen's concept art for savage night elves"
but then you look closer
and you realize they're night elves, trolls, orcs, and for some reason quillboars all thrown together in a blender
the different parts of these things work in isolation but if you mix them all together it's a visually incoherent mess
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>No animal tells lies to another in order to kill and eat them.
some animals use pheromones to deceive their prey, kill and eat them...are they evil anon ?
>Yes? That's the whole point. It's not some deep subjective question. Good and Evil exist, and forcing the good guys to become evil because le ebin subversion is plain retarded.
Zeliek was still part of the Scourge and he was still able to use the Light for it...does that make him good or evil ?
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>>559238378
everything, from their aesthetics to how they become playable, points to them joining the horde
but blizzard is never doing another faction specific race ever again
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the "new zone" is just harandar
the "new story" are a few intro quests that take at most 10 minutes and then you get booted to orgrimmar
just like every other allied race
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>>559230895
light? dark?
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>>559238958
The Elves are being giga retarded. One banker compared The Light's Vanguard being there to Arthas' Deathmarch. Come the FUCK on dude, I'm still seething at that one, who the FUCK wrote this shit??
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>>559237914
Blood Elves aren't High Elves, High Elves literally hate them for being weak cucks who resorted to smoking fel crack.
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>>559238737
Assassination feels fine to me. I think a lot of whining is coming from all the stupids who switched away from sudden demise builds because wowhead trannies told them its bad - even though its still optimal for early content
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>some animals use pheromones to deceive their prey, kill and eat them...are they evil anon ?
pheromones are a little different than calling for mom and dad specifically to make humans take pity. the demons in frieren are inherently evil BECAUSE they hunt and kill other sentient species. you can't compare that to an animal that gets what it can.
>Zeliek was still part of the Scourge and he was still able to use the Light for it...does that make him good or evil ?
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is devourer DH spec just fucking ass? has two play styles and one of them isn't even optimal abd the other is a boring as fuck literal 1 button caster until your metamorphis is up and then you can press 2 buttons
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Again this wasn't a recon, scarlet crusade were zealots working to destroy undearh, writers just wanted some evil human faction and fucked up ( they were being manipulated by demons). Lorewise whatever light users they had should have lost their powers when committing evil deeds. Also not every single scarlet warrior was a light user.
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>>559240059
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>>559240059
Yeah, it's the 12.1 zone based on the artbook and warlock season 2 raid set datamine.
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>we're also gonna keep the bosses as complex as ever but without actually telling you what any of their 45 mechanics are, teehee~
Do they really expect a nigga to memorize the dungeon journal for every boss or something?
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>thought about going fent elf
>stay draenei male
draenei males are so fucking cool bros
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>>559240324
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>>559240151
every class is useless now outside of cooldowns. except maybe bm as per usual. mostly because their cd is only 30s long
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unholy is good. why would you touch frost??? it's terrible in 80% of every season.
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>HEH, DON'T YOU KNOW THE LIGHT IS EVIL BECAUSE THESE HUMANS ARE RACIST AGAINST LITERAL ZOMBIES??? CHECKMATE CHUD
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I laugh every single time I see them because I have never once seen a player using them. They made a big fuss about putting black blood elves in for diversity points and no one fucking plays them. Pathetic virtue signalling.
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>Wanna level Evoker to 90 make farming Sark's weapon on mythic easier
>Disliked the campaign
>Dungeons are nothing but trash spam
>Remember how Evoker felt in Delves during WW even with a level 100 bran and maxed curios.
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>>559240715
Because the liberal white women making all of the decisions in this game need to represent a group of people that literally do not play the game and never have nor will
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>YOU DON'T GET THE POWER THROUGH PRAYER AND BELIEF!!! ITS A COSMIC FORCE!! ITS JUST WOW SCIENCE
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Its especially weird since they go full "Light is bad!"like its something new even tho they had repeatedly put this idea forward with the scarlets and that one monastery dungeon in TWW.
But then they go 180 and say "no no the light is fine, but people use it for bad reasons!"meaning its the people using it that are evil
but THEN they go an make "light blinded" nonsense where the person ISNT in control and the light is the thing thats extra bad.
its like 3 people wrote 3 drafts and it was due yesterday so the editor just mashed them together in the order they were submitted.
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>Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.
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Just make him our new Warchief and let us do something wacky like gas Ironforge or something. If I have to chose between being the evil faction and being the token friendly apologetic self-hating red guy in a blue story I'd rather the former.
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>new race icons
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>eversong
>what if the light was... le bad
>zulaman
>what if the amani were... le good
>arator quest
>waaah my dad hit me and now I'm having a breakdown
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>>559241901
Actually two hyphens is an en-dash, which is for denoting ranges between values. A single hyphen is just that, a hyphen. And the em-dash is three hyphens in length.
I hate that I know this because it makes me even more frustrated that in spite of their obvious use of AI, they still can’t get it right.
Blizzard has been really, really bad with grammar and typos in recent expansions. You would hope that AI would at least help with that.
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