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>bird city
it's time

Why is the bettina considered shit?

>>562531456
people try to kill with it

>>562531456
because firing one bullet costs one durability

Trading my body and bobcat blueprint for a canto blueprint.

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>>562533898
wonder how much they're worth
>
not bad I guess
seems to be getting lower
wonder if they'll add more ways to get it since its just a blue weapon

>>562531456
>shit durability
>shit ammo economy
>shit damage
>shit rof
>shit recoil
>shit dispersion
>shit ergonomics
>does ONE thing MILDLY better than other PvE weapons
>other PvE weapons can achieve the same effect by shooting 1 extra bullet

>>562534692
>>562531629
>>562532713
just tried it
it's going to the stash until they buff it
back to tempest it is

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>>562532713
No way.

>tfue is playing valorant instead of our game
its over
we lost peanut and now tfue

>>562541960
who

arc is le ded

>>562551034
This games boring and for casuals made with AI slop oh and the general got a tranny fucker namefag

>>562552584
nah there is nothing to talk about
new enemy came out and it spawned a new thread eventually but it's gone back to really slow

>>562535439
the devs seem to think it's fine. I usually break down any i find for heavy weapon parts

Am I the only one who think that shooting one bullet after reload because you clicked while reloading something extremely stupid?

>>562555995
It's a simple problem, they just have input queuing for some reason.

>>562556129
They added it in this update, they had even added patch notes talking about that like it some game braking thing, but it's just retarded, only makes you waste ammo.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvPU7odCSok

damn knowing this for the latest project will help a lot.

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>guy gets downed after looting the assesor
>he asks if I have a defib and say no
>dies while cursing and I take all his shit
>mfw I had 3 defibs
Sorry man but those Matrix parts are a bitch to get

>>562562280
yep. especially if theyre a freekit rat. fuck you bitch. im not reviving you.

why are people saying they changed the spawns?

>>562562280
It's a doggy dog world out here.

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Noice

>>562563735
they make freekits spawn later(or at least more likely) if thats what you mean

rocketeers have always been the most cancer least fun trash thing ever put in any video game and every single patch they manage to make this fucking thing worse and i cant understand why

>we buffed this guy so now it properly targets you through walls and shoots you without vision
>we increased its spawns and aoe sizes and barrages so you cant dodge it anymore
>we made it even louder so it just deafens everything else about the game
>we made it even more aggressive so it just sits on you for 5 minutes with its ESP wall hacks even if you have a cloak or throw a lure grenade away
>we nerfed wolfpacks so you cant even deal with them anymore

>we nerfed every single possible way to deal with this and keep making it more dangerous and buggy every patch

this single enemy is making me hate this game

>>562566060
git gud

>throw lure grenade and use cloak and run inside a building
>the rockeeter kills you through it
>just git gud lol!
kill yourself you fucking retard do you even listen to yourself

>>562566541
I feel like my lure grenades are bugged
they never fucking work like any of the clips I see

Actual shitter lol

>rocketeer kills the lure in 1 shot because you threw it like a retard
>climb a ledge, thus deactivating cloak and letting the rocketeer re-aggro on you
faggot

stop excusing shitty game design you literal subhumans

if players are smarter than your AI making them see you and kill you through walls is not the solution

>>562566705
they work, but you have to have at least a single braincell to understand that if you throw it too close or in the open it's gonna get nuked and won't do much, and it you throw it too far it's gonna be ignored
ideally you throw it close to the arc and behind cover that can still be reached making the arc route around it

>>562567214
>suppressive fire/location memory for AI exists
>WAAAAAAAAAAAHHHH WALLHACKSSS

>>562567214
niggers like you is why we can't have good PvE games

enemies randomly one shotting you from 100 meters away behind cover despite never seeing you is a skill issue

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>>562568554
idk the devs seem like they are ignoring those players
the Vaporizer is fun to fight and its Rocketeer v2

>>562568831
this but unironically

tfw getting better at the hullcracker

>>562568958
i have helldivers 2 pdsd after it was incessantly sissified and then noticing the same patterns in most games

the pve in this game is so fucking bad they have to prevent players from pvping because the pvp is the only good part about this game

>>562568958
This mode has me laughing my ass off because of chaotic it can get

>run inside a building
>rocket hits the building and does nothing
>next 2 bug straight through the wall and kills you randomly
>skill issue
kill yourselves

>>562569090
yea I hope they dont go that way, but so far I'm liking the changes
>THE HULLCRACKER WAS NERFED
no it was too strong, its pretty great now
>THEY NERFED WOLFPACKS THESE DEVS ARE KILLING THE FUN IN THE GAME
no wolfpack was too strong for the cost, I could make 15 of them in like 2 of my oil runs
now you actually have to kill a rocketeer, and other arc too, since everyone was just relying on throwing 2-3 wolfpacks

>>562569264
please embarrass yourself by posting the clip

>>562569264
I had something similar happen on buried city
I was torched by a firefly through a roof, didn't die luckily
but I agree with you that its bullshit

If you're literally about to die from ARC and someone saves your life, then you shoot them in the back for their loot while they're healing, you really need to think about who you are as a person

>>562569660
I've been saved so many times I try to save other raiders
>hear firefly
>start looking around for who aggroed it and try to hit it a few times

>>562569398
those kinds opinions literally belong to hd2 tourists, the argumentation is verbatim, they follow a single list

I don't think I'm strong enough to do a third expedition

>>562573826
I would easily do the expedition if I could keep my blueprints.
They should make it so that the blueprints are locked (for those that did the expedition) till specific levels. Rares unlock level 20, epics level 35-40 and legendaries around level 50.

Just finished a run where I was last sliver of health, got the return screen, but showed me walking out with nothing/saying I was knocked out. Have the inventory
Does the game just give it to the player in these split second situations?

>>562574310
bps become useless either way for people doing expeditions
best case scenario you could probably do some extra investments to keep no more than 5 bps, but then again people will probably overpick certain ones reducing the demand for them even more

Weather monitoring station bros... they are looking into "solutions" if you didn't finish it (like me)

>>562574310
bps are worthless anyways even while doing expeditions you just feed that shit to the "Provisions" section anyways or sell them for raw value. The only thing that sucks is like losing a few attachment bps like silencers.

Only blueprint I need is Survivor, and I have 4 extras stored

>>562576478
>and I have 4 extras stored
Really nigga?

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That wasn't so bad. The event was fun. Will come back on April 30th, 23:59 when they drop the new map.

>>562583170
pretty sure 3-4
might be 3 because I think my plan is to make my alt eat one and make a couple survivors and just pass them to my main, and see how long I can do the expedition without eating the blueprint so I can hold onto them longer
I got one as a trial reward at the beginning of this expedition and lasted like 2 weeks with it before losing it and then just trading a blueprint from my alt

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>>562583170

I hate these assessor missions so much


It’s just a gear check for smokes and lures- if they even decide to work. Loot is crapola. No other raiders around in the area to help

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>no hitler mustache
Heh

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>>562568554
>niggers like you is why we can't have good PvE games
Nice PvE you got there, bub

>>562585471
>It’s just a gear check for smokes and lures- if they even decide to work. Loot is crapola. No other raiders around in the area to help
Can buy smokes daily and lures are a BP like 5 quests in. Plus the cloak is a quest item, im certain of it. If not, I am sure it comes already learned and all you need is a level 3 bench.

>>562586003
learn2aim

>>562586430
I don't need to, I'm targeting PvE lobbies. I will lower my agression rank for hours. Then, I will target friendly solos, who want to extract. The people who actually desire to exfil, that's who I'm gonna kill.
I don't give a fuck about pvpers

>>562586574
>I don't need to
cope answer

>>562586574
thanks for keeping our game alive
this would probably make people uninstall in marathon, but here its fun

>>562586764
You're supposed get upset when this happens, it's not fun, if you're ok with it. Bleh

Time to buy Arc on Xbox, to use a different name. Kukuku

Holy dead thread, is everyone on here an old dude

>>562589280
back in my day slow threads were the thing you wanted

>>562589765
I'm just surprised Arc threads became this slow.

Bump for you, friendly fools

>>562593680
breaking her feet and raping her when she falls to the ground

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>>562593780
You do that, tough guy, and I'll shoot you in the back(no homo)

>>562593680
is she spitting on me then?

>>562594121
You wish, as soon she gets on top of you, friendlies will come runnin' to the flare, and shoot her away.

>>562594046
Don't worry I'm doing it on your corpse.

>>562589280
yes

>>562594601
Dang, and here I was trying to pick a fight with you fellers. I thought you're young dudes like me.

since the change that players who make their own loadouts getting into fresh raids more often, I've noticed that aggressive players tend to spawn in late more often than before

>>562568939
>down to 30k already
grim

Marathon rent free

>>562566060
>properly targets you through walls and shoots you without vision

I noticed this about the vaporizer

>>562567343
>>562567214
no you can see them shooting the wall where you are even if you're moving back and forth

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When will they fix this bug? It triggers my autism.

>>562619403
this shit is incredibly low prio

>our general finna boutta archive from inactivity and these niggas talking about marathon

I keep having too much fun playing
I like hunting arc to make cash in Scrutiny instead of having to loot

>page 10

>>562629589
meant to reply to >>562629528 lol

>>562629528
>>our general finna boutta archive from inactivity
I tried to save it, and I hate Arc for having a consumer friendly matchmaking option

>>562586003
>52 bullets to kill one dude who wasnt even looking at you
This aint it dude.

>>562629643
>holiday

>>562629589
Almost as if a straight arc hunting game would be way more fun than loot shit.

Chungartha https://streamable.com/semd79

Since M******n isn't getting fixed or going F2P anytime soon, I think I'm going to play Arc.

Any tips for newbies?

>>562635434
Hipfire.

>>562635434
>Any tips for newbies?
Shoot the rotors

@562635405
you are literally brown

you dont have to respond to the obvious tripfag wanting attention. you can let the thread be slow and bump when necessary.

>>562638398
don't care, I enjoy calling out browns

>>562638229
your shit english is starting to make me believe this might be projection
do you think your mother wishes she would have aborted your useless schizophrenic ass whenever she looks at you

>>562638971
>shit english
what? I'm a white american lmao. I used literally ironically.

>>562639114
actually it wasn't ironic since klem is actually brown

>>562639114
just put a shotgun barrel in your mouth schizo. your life is less than worthless

>>562639772
Really though, what do you think was the "shit english" because I've gotta know

>>562640443
enough with the schizobabble. just kill yourself

>>562640443
They said you had shit english, because they thought you are risegkm, or klem, same person.

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its medium ammo time

>>562644025
That makes no sense, they thought the person calling the lolcow brown was the lolcow?

>>562644025
stop talking to yourself schizo.
take your meds

>>562645405
it's one retarded nigger calling anything pvp-adjacent brown, he's probably worse than klem, at least that cunt's having fun

i wonder how proud your whore mother was to find out her useless fuck of a son is a paranoid schizophrenic. bet she wished she would have scraped you from her diseased womb

>>562646085
You’ll never be a woman, you fucking faggot.

>>562646085
please just kys already

>>562645710
I am that guy tho

>>562609069
It's fun with walls that have bad collision and the vaporizer just shoots through the walls

let the thought eat away at you whenever she has to look at you. she probably wishes she would have swallowed you every single day wakes up

FINALLY got loot back from dying to a cheater. It's an Easter miracle!

>>562645386
Where can I get that blueprint

>>562645386
poor mans bobcat

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This dude has some crazy projections

>>562647832
Hurricane caches

>>562648006
It's kinda different and meta changing in its own way. It's the in-between of the Stitcher and Bobcat to encourage freegros to actually build a kit and since it takes medium ammo you can run it with a Renegade with 400 ammo and have your long and medium/short range fully covered with one ammo type.

don't forget your meds schizo. they make you a little less insufferable to everyone that has to interact with you

I sure do love every blue in the game using the medium ammo.

>>562527887
this game is mega shit

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the fun ends here

How would you buff the Bettina?

>>562653468
>>/vg/mg

>>562654601
>>>/vg/mg

>>562653468
maybe in some specific aspects?

>>562646692
One spot is the gas station in Blue Gate. The little sheet metal storage door in the garage, their laser goes right through it.

>open assesor
>3 matrix parts
wtf I thought they only gave one

>>562657687
they give multiple yeah. Why do you think the nakeds always try to run after looting and are always cleaned out when they die? They can only shove one matrix up their ass at a time.

>just outgunned a canto IV with a tempest II
>camper peaked through pharmacia on buried city and thought he could quickly kill me as I was on the roof directly adjacent
>ended up killing him and getting away with barely 5% hp
I did mostly get headshots but I still expected more of the weapon.

>>562665879
headshots make a big difference
also if his color shield

>>562665879
it's just a stitcher with higher firerate

Bettina buff next update I can feel it

>>562666619
feels like its on the list
but idk they had that one dev saying
>whaaaat, the bettina is great

>>562666756
what fucking data are they even looking at to suggest it's good? blows my mind

>>562666865
I did see one post saying that a lot of the data is probably coming from cheaters using it
It's deadly in pvp if you land headshots, and cheaters are the ones who can do that with ease
Otherwise it seems like the average player tries it out against ARC and is like
>well this thing fucking sucks
or uses it in pvp
>this thing only works in close quarters and I have like 6 other guns I could use that are better

>>562666865
I hate this balancing by the data bullshit. Like dude, use your fucking eyes and common sense.

>>562653605
is this thing's ads good in pve or not

>>562666619
devs have ptsd from tech test 2 bettina + heavy shield meta
those 2 are never getting buffed

>>562667070
how in the fuck is it doing well in datasheets? it loses to the twice nerfed venny both in stats and cost, for fucks sake
and that's on top of horrendous recoil/dispersion with the bottom 2 ammo economy in the game

>>562669835
probably wrong
but nobody uses it, except cheaters with pinpoint accuracy

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>>562669928
>chart made post venny nerf, before toro nerf
i mean, it's not a big difference, but at the same time there are weapons that are clearly superior to the bettina
the "cheater stats" don't line up, it doesn't make any fucking sense

>>562670462
Part of the PvP in the game is getting the drop on people are knowing when to push
Cheaters even have that stuff covored
>can see where people are through walls
>can see when someone is holding heals and going to use them
On spreadsheets yea, it wouldn't make sense, but that's basically considering a perfect scenario where both people start shooting each other at the same time, not one guy playing normally with a chance to make mistakes vs another guy playing with a bot that aims for your head every time no matter what

but I could be completely wrong, I'm just going off a post I read forever ago, and that nobody legitimate is using the bettina, pretty sure there was a post in this thread where anon was like
>tried the bettina
>this shit is sucks

>>562666364
blue shield just like mine

>>562657897
Not always. Why you lying? I'm done with the project and only saw it once with more than 1.

>>562680757
All I've checked are 1-3. Not my problem you're a lucklet.

>10 rounds in a row
>no PvP
>hmm let's take an anvil IV, wait I don't have the BP
>have some kind of weird feeling that somebody will kill me next round
>let's take something else instead
>kill a vaporizer
>get killed from behind
Odd that I saw it coming

>>562680909
I got 5-9 out of wasps, lucklet

>>562681019
remember you can buy 3 daily from the store if you didn't already

I gotta figure out where cover is on all the maps, these vaporizers are eating me for dinner @-@

>>562683430
I did the same when they upped rocketeers
I'm always calculating the nearest shelter whenever I'm in open spaces

>>562653468
It's dogshit but addicting in a weird way, eventually does get extremely stale though

I'm the only one brave enough to say they need to nerf the Ferro

>>562684004
NOOOOOOOO

>>562684004
Anvil*

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>Aaaaa
>AaAAAAA
>ha
>ha
>aaAAAAAAAAAA

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>tfw finally found the smoke grenade blueprint on Friday night
Fucking FINALLY. It eluded me for way too long.

>>562683276
You're right. Max upgraded though. Was glad that the other guy only got a Ferro for killing me.

>>562692701
yea wonder if they'll change that
simple gun parts can already be limiting
but not having light/medium/heavy gunparts, almost locks you into using the ferro if you somehow run out of good guns

>>562683430
>>562683710
just bring a photoelectric cloak with you on all maps, it's what I've done since launch and they're cheap to make

>>562695009
yep
its in my standard kit now
starting to get used to bringing hullcrackers

>>562695304
Every since comets released, I almost always bring a hullcracker now lol. One shot to the slit and it's dead.

>>562695304
Feels pretty damn good to have a enough doe and risk assessment to roll with a hullcracker sooner and sooner after expedition. I often have zero chemicals and crude explosives from all the ammo though.

now might be the best time to do your key rooms
people found out you can place barricades so the room cant be opened from the outside

>>562695703
lewd

>2 Vaporizers aggro on some guys at the Assessor on dam seeing if it's been looted dry by nakeds
>down them because they are in the middle of the water with no cover
>both instantly switch aggro to me, 75~ meters away watching the shitshow mostly behind cover just using my osprey to watch
>hound me and ignore the other 2 people
>go down
>they start hounding the guy with a hullcracker
>he surrenders behind cover so that the last guy can get his defibs
>vaporizers zoom over and flank the cover to start hounding that final guy too
>after mission report
>Feedback popup
>Deslike
>"explain"
>enemy AI

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lol

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Thank god it's over

>>562700827
same

>>562700827
not looking forward to the final step

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these dont seem that fun

Pve casual here, if I come across someone down and knock them out, will that take me out of the pve queue? I'm too lazy to pvp, but I am a greedy piggy too.

>>562704743
It's like 99% chance of giving you some bad matchmaking karma.

>>562705004
Well shit. Guess I'll be a good boy and just defib them.

>>562706064
Could just wait for them to die, but there is a decent theory that even looting a body also gives you bad karma. Everyone still does that however.

>>562703373
Can do 3 of these in the event modifier, easy.
>Buried city/old town scrutiny
>vaporizers a given
>wasps pretty easy, havent tested if snitch scanners work in the mode either

How many days should I wait before playing again to make sure I'm not in the sweatlord leaderboards?

>>562692060
I found 1 (only one) in the first season and I dont remember where
I found 1 (one) in Spaceport at the very end of the second season after searching literally months for it everywhere without luck
This season I found 2 (two) in Spaceport without much effort
Something is very fucked with the Smoke Grenade blueprint but Spaceport seems to do the trick for now

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>>562711747
I ended on 60 somehow
but took this after I started
so whenever that is
probably more chance the later you wait if you really care about that
I know a few people who wait until the last day each week

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>only guns i get from caches are renegades

>>562719294
I've luckily been building up a stash of anvils, still don't have the blueprint
I should probably upgrade these to IV to clear up some room

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>>562719294
>>562719909

>>562699804
Their ai stinks. A lot of flying robots are just stuck in place wiggling left and right. Or their super aggressive like you described. Embark is really bad at this .

>>562653468
brown

Beach map April 28th, I'm coming for you, and (You)>>562706598
>but there is a decent theory that even looting a body also gives you bad karma
brown and mindbroken

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Fresh, new map. We're gonna have a lot of fun together. You, and me.

Of course I'm not interested in the new robot, I'm just gonna stalk you in random places. When you believe you're alone, that's when I'll attack you.
And you can't even fight back, because I have the best gear and heals.

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Very interesting, we get to swim, like in Uncharted, Last of Us, and Red Dead?

Sony movie game bros, we're winning with Arc

>>562729532
diver augment/utility?

>>562729532
I'd doubt it, that doesn't really seem fun, and guns don't work when they are filled with water

>>562629528
Marathon has a real endgame, nothing to discuss here.
It's a solved game that look a sharp drop (relative to the launch ccu) because there's not much to do or discuss about.
Patches and nerfs are shit, and ragebaiting about ABMM is about the only thing gaining traction

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>don't care about trial rewards this season
>accidentally reach hot shot farming trials for blueprints

Anyways, does anyone use an alt for keeping blueprints they like? I'm getting ready for my 2nd expedition but I just got my first bobcat bp.

I've got an alt account on my steamdeck that I used to transfer blueprints my 1st expedition. I'm realizing I could just lvl 3 my alts benches and use that as my main accounts arms dealer. Anyone else doing something similar?

Part of me thinks it might be a pain giving the alt materials, but that can't be worse than losing your favorite blueprints every 60 days, can it?

>>562732403
yea I'm considering something similar, just keep the alt at 0 expeditions, feed it every blueprint once, I can just send my main supplies when I need it
otherwise I just give myself the blueprints I want
>survivor
>seeker nade
>silencer II
I seem to be able to get everything else through the shop and I dont pvp

>>562732403
>Part of me thinks it might be a pain giving the alt materials
if you know the routes on your main, its not too hard just doing it them on your alt

>>562733624
Reminds me I need to farm blue gate / stella for survivor

>>562734071
fair, it's also not too terrible turning the pc and deck on at the same time to lobby up and transfer if I have the materials ready to go on the main

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Hope new map is very pretty and relaxing. Tired of ugly maps, like Stella and Dam

>>562732403
>Anyways, does anyone use an alt for keeping blueprints they like? I'm getting ready for my 2nd expedition but I just got my first bobcat bp.
Idk, that seems so lame to me. The whole point is to grind up again, and its a bit of fun doing that. Instantly giving yourself the most important item in the game takes away a bit of fun.

>>562735713
my 2nd pc kinda sucks, so I have it set up so I can easily switch between accounts
also lets me play the game on my alt and accidentally hit hotshot without trying on my main

loool consolenigger aim

>>562736983
>lame
Fair, I don't think any of the blueprints really gave me that much of an edge outside of the ammo mags. The shop's daily 3 anvil's and 3 il toros are more than enough to solo the expedition pages and $3m requirement.

>>562744149
And you can kind of treat it as a way to explore all the different augs. Maybe this wipe you find the combat instead of the survivor. Or you find one of the tactical ones. Maybe the flanking and roll with whatever you get. That way, you roll with whatever pink aug the RNG simulator spits out at you instead of losing your hair trying to do naked night runs for 8 hours straight or eliminating the fun of searching entirely by gifting it to yourself.

I actually just got the flanking aug, wish it could equip blue shields though.

>>562745338
Yeah the pink looting aug being able to equip blues but not the damn combat aug is diabolical.

>aimkeys team throws tnades that insta-nuke a team of three with no possible reaction from the enemy team
very cool

i remember one of the CM's or maybe a dev in the discord replying to someone about tnades after the nerf
>what tnades? but we already nerfed them.
you dont even have to play the game to see tnades are still OP, just watch any top pvp streamer and you tell me with a straight face that tnades are in a good spot.

>pvp
lol

>>562749760
it's a pvp game chud

>>562735923
It's a beach so it might be nice

>>562729532
NEVER trust the AI summary

>>562754148
not really

>>562728439
>>562729532
just saw a tik tok saying something about swimming combat
people are really convinced theres going to be swimming when theres been no indication of it
maybe theres some stupid short I missed

>>562724769
Whatever you say, jeet.

>>562759217
nah thatd be insane. it takes these guys 6 months to adjust values on a shotgun, no way theyd add swimming.

>>562759217
could be cool if they fuck with your loadout weights
normal swim, slow swim, drown
compounds with map conditions
flood map condition could be added to certain maps if it works out

>>562719909
lucky bastard, why doesnt the RNG favor me

>>562765518
I got them from turning in those containers at the field depots
if that makes a difference

Is it just me or has the amount of hackers increased lately?

>>562768023
chinks and slavnigs doing what they always do

>>562768675
-300,000 social credit

Hackers aren't a problem in chungus lobbies

where are the fucking bug fixes?
>reload bug
>item wheel bug
>falling animation bug
>stuck in throw animation after unequiping grenades bug

Does the vaporizer/wasp trial not count as damage done to arc in buried city trial? Why?

>>562769432
No, instead you get rats waiting at exfils or pvpjeets that have reverse boosted to get kill easy kills.

>>562774056
Seldom happens to me, maybe like 1 in 30 or 50 raids there's a rat.

https://youtube.com/shorts/Fq-3fkuYhn0?si=2myhH4aZMG5csuHg

>>562777485
april fools was almost a week ago

>>562769432
They will be soon if hackers keep bleeding out normal players.

>>562768023
i don't pvp so I never see them

>>562772405
I'm hoping soon
At least they mentioned they are aware of them

>>562778038
That makes no logical sense.

damn everyone figured out these assessor things fast
hope I can loot them eventually. everyone seems desperate for those cores and probably the blueprint

>>562774747
maybe 1 out of 100 or so for me. I think there's deeper levels of friendly lobbies that most don't see.

>>562778192
Same thing happened to Tarkov. Normal players got replaced by cheating farmers. Now only cheating streamers play it for content.

finally tomorrow the one good skin will release, assuming they dont fuck up the bottom half. it is funny how butthurt reddit is about the SWAT skin.
>NUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU IT DOESNT FIT IN THE GAMES LORE!!!!!!!!
as if all military or cop attire was taken by the arc when they left. if anything there should be way more cop and military attire being scavenged. why would people take the fucking sweat pants and booty tight pants but not the military pants and combat boots?

>>562778320
holy shit I did it
I got the Canto blueprint
and like 6 assessor things

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>>562782356
I mean Dolabra

>>562781763
Does Tarkov have ABBM? Because cheaters won't get grouped with chungarthans lol

>>562782498
>he doesn't know about loot radar/vacuum cheats

>>562783412
If I don't die I don't really care

>>562783562
Absolute state of PvEcucks

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>>562783620
Not my problem.

>>562783562
>dying is gay
>you can do anything you want otherwise
Impressive.

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>>562784198
>you can cheat as long as I can continue pressing E on container
That wasn't on my bingo. It is now.

>>562784252
>>562784646
>dude makes up shit about how cheating is prevalent in pve lobbies (or will be if pvp dies to cheaters)
>saying I don't care means I'm okay with cheaters
Please kill yourselves.

>>562784894
Anon, RMT cheating is a business. Just because you chose ignorance, it doesn't mean you're not retarded.

>>562785171
What percentage of my games do you think has these cheaters? How does it affect me in any way outside of possibly missing out on loot in a single raid

>>562784894
I was the original anon you responded to I only replied twice, dunno about these other anons lol but yeah I quit Tarkov after starting it in alpha and somewhere around the latest city map and fell for their pipe dream of all the maps being connected which Arc Raiders has a more realistic goal of copying.
Very educational on Russian culture during those many hours and history. Incompetent jank is all I see of that game now.

>>562785774
Tarkov had moments where more than half of your raid were cheaters, with more than 3/4ths of those being silent RMT looters that basically globally lowered loot availability, especially rare items.
ABMM helps currently, as they are contained to high-rating lobbies, for the most part, but if the competition there gets tight it's only logical that they will spread of try to find alternative methods.

>>562786297
>tarkov tarkov tarkov
I don't care about that game. This is not Tarkov.

>>562786696
>too braindead to draw parallels between games of the same genre
Then be retarded.

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>>562787147

hackers are a pvpnigger problem only

ok the assessors are kind of fun
sucks if you don't have the smoke grenade blueprints though

anyone else getting placed in ultraviolence sweat lobbies who feel like they don't belong there?

my trio just plays to see where the round goes without any real plan or great gear, but we're now only seeing
>Canto IV Venator IV Vulcano IV Trigger Nade x36
and even when we win an engagement we just get mopped up by the rest of the lobby

Weird got knocked off a zip line and died to a zap bot buy a raider defibbed me. Saw a flare go up and went to help but a random guy shot at me with a silenced renegade. Weird that there was a pvp nigger in my lobby. I just turned around and went to my key room and left.

>>562787654
if you've ever walked into a room to find just 1 or 2 open loot containers, it's because a player with ESP stole all the blueprints to sell on a 3rd-party marketplace. PvE servers are the place to do this because you can steal shit under other player's noses with no consequences or risk.

>>562788717
that kinda explains the pvefags crying about never finding certain bps

>>562788717
never had this problem

>>562788717
sometimes I run by unopened containers on my way to somewhere and I don't clear the whole room lol, this is schizo shit

>>562789635
nah, he's got a point, usually those specific containers will have a single item looted
in hotspots (like stella assembly) you can encounter this shit as frequently as every 5 or so raids.

>>562789635
>"you're schizophrenic", he chuckled nervously
you're right, my bad. third worlders would never cheat at a video game for marginal profits.

>>562789791
>>562789831
Again, I rarely encounter this shit. The original comment that sparked this was someone complaining about hackers, reasonably assumed to be talking about in pvp. Not my problem.

>>562790237
>Not my problem.
back it up by shutting the fuck up

they split the 3 mushroom tree across some other trees

>>562790237
>generalization answered with personal exception
Are you a woman?

>>562791110
You're grossly overstating how much of an issue hackers are in pve lobbies dude.

>have two stella keys to use
>keep spawning in assembly
bros... too much loot

>>562792848
and again, third time in a row. fuck.

>>562791452
thats probably the pvp schizo

>the PvP-PvE shitposters are back
marathon must truly be dying

>doing matriarch in friendly lobbies.
>never use the equalizer so bring it out
>some retard makes a beeline at me and runs through my beam
>I'm now in sus lobbies all day despite the fact that I've healed many people
>how many sus lobbies do I need to be in before I can use my new Dolabra safely

>>562796091
usually only a few lobbies for me

They need to either split PvP and PvE or get rid of ABMM. I am tired of getting shot while in a "friendly lobby", it would be better if it was truly random so everyone played more intelligently, including myself.

>>562797227
as long as TTK gets increased a bit, I wouldn't be opposed to it

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>>562797351
genuinely staggered by how retarded these takes are

>>562797646
then explain your pov instead of being a faggot

>>562797704
getting iced in "friendly lobbies" is 100% a skill issue. develop a survival instinct instead of demanding that the game be lowered to your own level of personal stupidity

the TTK is already glacially long compared to contemporary shooters and making it even longer would make fights feel like shit.
>but I die too fast
another skill issue

>0.87s is glacially long

>>562797351
>TTK
dawg shut up about this. you should be able to easily run away if someone shoots at you

>>562798208
As long as you're not given a near-guaranteed action even if you fumble in the hardest possible way, then the whole gameplay ALWAYS devolves into infofagging and stealth, especially so in solos.
If I can't deploy utility in a firefight without initiative before getting glassed this faggotry will never change.

Like duh, you can just play around information LIKE EVERY FUCKING SHOOTER EVER, instead of making something more than that.

>>562798519
Just how shit your aim is?

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>>562798579
>Just how shit your aim is?

>>562798629
>jeet-tier diarrhea aim
This is a (you) problem

shut the fuck up pvpniggers

>>562798579
>the whole gameplay ALWAYS devolves into infofagging and stealth
>this faggotry will never change.
because that's what the game is, jackass. go play something else.

also
>infofagging
100% cope for just being stupid

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Cheaters are not a PvPjeet problem.
PvPjeets use a Cronus device with a script, they go to sleep, while their character runs around, and dies, without dealing damage to players.

This cheat device plays the game for you, lowers ABMM to a minimum. You wake up, and get all the delicious Chungus lobbies.

>>562798860
You are arguing against combat depth and the whole system to be defined by NOTHING but initiative?
What a nigger.

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>Rape chunguses at extract
>Run cronus script
>Go to sleep
>Wake up
>More chungus lobbies to rape

>>562796402
i had to slime someone out.
>use key on key room at top of dam tower
>barricade it
>set up multiple mines
>retard opens it
>he somehow doesn't instantly die
>run out and slime him
>tell him not to open others key rooms dirty rat
>place more mines before looting him
>he has hullycaker 4, tons of seeker nades and t nades, snaphook, blue bandaids, anvil with anvil splitter, photo cloak, survivor aug, and surprisingly a vaporizer regulator.

WHY on earth would you open my key room if you're already so geared? You see the damn barricade or door blockers and you think its a good idea to risk it all? If you open my key room after all of the warning signs I am killing you 100%. One of us is dying 100%.

>>562798860
trios >>>>>>>> solos
the entire reason why it is that way is because combat doesn't end on a single pick due to combined team longevity, you are a faggot

>>562799365
I found this

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Pb3JX-_l6us

Friendlies often get upset that "the vibe is ruined" or "there's a rat", and will shoot back.

Bingo, their account is ruined. Now they have an aggression rank. If you ever scratched a player with your bullet or melee(!), you will never escape Ratkanda.

>>562799369
you're a faggot, because we actually agree with each other but you still wanted to pick a fight. it's clear that the context of the discussion is revolving around solo play and that no particular set of balance changes is going to make everyone happy; so, if a person doesn't like the way the game is, they should just leave instead of eternally kvetching on /vg/

>>562798992
longer TTK will not increase combat depth. Longer TTK just turns combat into a gear check instead of a skill check.

>>562798208
Why should abmm exist then? To me it's the devs not having confidence in their pvpve design and this is an easy out. Why would they implement a system that lets you increase likeliness of one game type or another? Just let it be always pvpve and the player can't make any assumptions. Either that or nut up and split the game types. I know it's always pvpve but abmm causes players to assume they are in one or the other and the system is easily manipulated by fags

>>562799723
thanks I've seen this one but I'd rather them get blown up instead of waiting outside for me

>>562800032
>longer TTK will not increase combat depth. Longer TTK just turns combat into a gear check instead of a skill check.
First of all, we are in a fucking extraction shooter. You know, where loot and gear is the center of the game?
Second, your ambush/info advantage doesn't go away, it simply stops being a win button. A guy that's dead can't do things to increase the complexity of the encounter because he's... dead.

I am expecting an initiative back and fourth as it happens in trios, but in solos, yet that's never going to happen when death is just a headshot and a half away, and utility is almost never used because just shooting is far more efficient.

>>562800032
A guy ran through my equalizer beam for a second and I'm sent into pvp sus lobbies
>>562800171
bro shut up. either be friendly in the friendly neighborhood servers or have fun in the call of dooty lobbies

>>562800171
>Just let it be always pvpve and the player can't make any assumptions
>I know it's always pvpve but abmm causes players to assume they are in one or the other
do you even read the shit you write? is this a symptom of the literacy crisis?

>>562800545
>A guy ran through my equalizer beam for a second and I'm sent into pvp sus lobbies
Based, I always run in front of dudes who are shooting Arc, making sure I get hit. Hullcracker does nothing tho, which is unfortunate.

>>562800545
>either be friendly in the friendly neighborhood servers or have fun in the call of dooty lobbies
I'm always in minimum ABMM, friendly lobbies. Always killing a dude who wants to extract.
I will not let the game "send me' to cowadooty lobbies.
I will reverse boost my account.

>>562800545
I do play in friendly only lobbies exclusively. And when I get shot while I am busy fighting arc or doing trials I get pissed off because there is no reason I should be paired with a kos pvper. The abmm doesn't work and I don't see a reason for it to exist.

>>562800615
My bad it was poorly worded. I'm trying to say abmm is a half assed way to appease pve players and it gives a false sense of safety. It implies that you will get a certain lobby based on your behavior but it's not really true. I have 400 hours with like 15 kills so you know I pve only. I'm just getting tired of feeling like abmm failed when I get kos'd. Just chilling with other guys talking when a minute later some fuck with a vent iv kills me.

Love the game but maybe it's not for me

>>562768023
I wouldn't know
t. xbox chad

>>562809427
cronus