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Where Winds Meet is an epic Wuxia open-world action-adventure RPG set in ancient China at the tenth century. Players will assume the role of a young sword master as they embark on a journey to uncover the mysteries of their own identity. Let the wind carry your legend on an epic journey to the East!
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I don't want to do this
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Speaking of in-game chat, why is it so dogshit? Why can't they make a normal, customizable chat window you can resize, set transparency, tick/untick channels and that doesn't pop a whole fucking giant UI whenever you're trying to type?
How did they fuck up something so simple, so badly?
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do any of the new hexi campaign bosses drop the greaves/leg armour for the new sets like how tian ying and god of avarice did? i haven't done them yet
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>>563045452
There are quite literally multiple 2.5k+ mythic 80%+ winrate tank players even now
Your weapon rapes everyone except for fagbrellas and shameless and even those matchups you can win if you're not a knucledraging troglodyte
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>>563045556
every single match for me is either a bellstrike runner (i can't do anything about it) or a fanbrella runner (i can't do anything about it)
>>563045561
>Your weapon rapes everyone except for fagbrellas and shameless
that's all i face though?
>you can win if you're not a knucledraging troglodyte
tell me how
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lo-fi vibes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PdKCMMO0zI0
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>>563045639
Against fagbrella you can pretty much only dcounter their dash, but every weapon struggles with them because fan is a weapon for noskilled niggers even more so than heng.
Against nameless just parry instead of blocking, bring meridian to execute.
If they try to stun just dodge and otherwise bait out defense break so you can suck into true combo.
Bring golden body to cover your obese asshole in case you're incapable of parrying everything.
If they engage with Q just divine them, but they won't unless they're retarded and will cancel it.
Focus on doing 90% of your damage through execute into fire breath and then stacking it with poet unless they have spear stun up in which case just run and back to step 1.
They will try to time you out so just parry and execute, never let them hit even your shield. Blocking still lets damage through so don't rely on it.
Bamboocut is a free win for you, umbra is a skillcheck and with heng just watch out for their yellows and special, punish both and Q with suck.
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>>563046382
It's a mo blade exclusive in PvE.
In PvP it is the attack every weapon has after it blocks (not parries) an attack.
It has tenacity and priority over virtually every attack and defense with a couple exceptions.
It goes on a cooldown upon being cast.
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Why is the gold version worse?
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Ok I will say it
>I hate Liangzhou content
The snow area is giving me dizziness and headache if I play longer than an hour, they top it up with some weird shits and oddities like the deers and aligned patterns
And every 3 steps there are things to pick up from all directions
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it turns out for raging tides merit farming that non stop alcohol drinking is not as far behind hero realm like farming as expected. i just keep drinking at the online evercare clinic and let people heal my alcohol poisoning so i don't get sent to the dream world
maybe i'll give up if i can rank up at the end of the week
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does anyone know?
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>>563049314
just spend the 50 jade to swap the set bros. I spend jade like nothing and I still have well over 10k. Literally like 1 thousand spent on face adjustments and 3k on inner way swaps plus another 500 on swapping weapon sets on gear. Just do it bwo.
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>1 thousand spent on face adjustments
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Which boss can I do this shit at? I'm trying dao lord but it ain't cutting it since I can't seem to get a third full spin in due to the submerge phase.
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just hold your damage until you use it 3 times. you need the wolf inner way to hit max buff on a single target. apply bleed with SS then use Q for double stacks
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you only need 8 stacks for river flow with the inner way. also that doesn't make sense, a 5 stack bleed gives 100% chance for 2x stacks so you should be getting 12 if all hits land
you might be detonating the bleed
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???
How the fuck are you supposed to do this? You're always getting interrupted before.
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WWM reached top 3 sales in global https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AxjmuHzuY9M
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>>563069135
>The bamboocut wind trial for drunken martial artist doesn't count either no matter how many times I try.
that's due to the same issue, once the game agrees you have the right build on then you can get credit and what always worked for me without fail was to simply load template from the menu instead of assembling the build manually
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The Nameless General wants (you) to post your young masters/jade beauties and their badly generated AI portraits, NOW
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>>563070206
At least they're starting to figure things out. More martial arts, Howlion guild-based PvE leaderboard, promised less walking in story, and they're reportedly developing open world territory-based GvG.
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>>563070071
>only just now beat him
ngl I think I preferred strat sword and nspear
now I'm in the fist waiting room
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>>563070071
I want the Nameless General to lay down and spread his legs, NOW
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>>563070071
I use the dev's young master's face
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New player here. Do I have to play path weapon comps? Eg twin blades + rope dart, or are comps from different paths viable? I will most likely only care about soloing bosses, open world and 1v1 pvp. If I do engage with others will I get kicked for not played a path comp?
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>>563072223
>Do I have to play path weapon comps?
no, especially if you are just going through story. they are most 'optimal' if you do but when you are starting just pick what you like. it doesnt really matter unless you want to be a top dps in sword trails/hero's realms (raid content) or pvp
in 1v1 pvp the path comps are a bit flexible (for example, tb pairs well with stratsword and nameless sword) but for the most part are still paired.
you wont get kicked unless you are in some tryhard guild, and wwmg guilds dont care, but you will be gutting yourself in pvp/gvg if you pick a bad pairing and will be lower dps in raids
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This outfits coming tomorrow right?
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>>563072223
depends, playing the intended path is strong but sometimes you need versatility more
but no, unless you join some ultra sweaty guild that does weekly performance evaluations nobody is going to kick you for that
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Should I play all main storyline before playing other side quests in Liangzhou? Would it affect my experience?
I'm scared Liangzhou will turn into another Heaven Pier
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>>563073702
There is a small ponytail on it.
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>>563081573
meanwhile this is kino
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>>563085068
Npc here called Xi Daozhi
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>>563065480
Still need help with this. It's not counting no matter what. I've ever done perfect chains by exhausting the boss and doing a full umbrella boomerang rotation with the rope dart debuff which allows for 10 returns or more in one go.
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As someone who has slaved away at this shit, I have to agree. Especially with the Hengdao, it's very obvious that this game is kind of buggy and unpolished in a lot of ways, especially with Hengdao combos causing lots of consecutive staggers.
There are lots of times you get put in situations you can't react to, like some enemies have yellow moves which give them super armor, come out very quickly, and of course need to be dodged, but the bread and butter combo for Hengdao involves swapping to the Modao to use Burning Heart, but like most charge attacks you can't dodge out of the charging, or the attacking portion of the attack, so sometimes you get put in a situation where you are literally trapped.
Some bosses glitch out when they get staggered, which happens a lot with Hengdao because it staggers bosses far more than others. Ghost Master starting appearing while her ghosts were summoned, and then summoned 4 more ghosts on top of the existing ones because she got staggered right as the hyperarmor from her summoning ended. That's just one example but I could post webm clips of the various bullshit I encountered with this weapon that flagrantly wasn't tested thoroughly, especially in stringent environments where you aren't allowed to take any hits at all.
Setting aside the eccentricities of the hengdao, the game is way too comfortable wasting your time with tedious HP gates wherein the boss hits thresholds to stop taking damage, annoying phase transitions, invulnerability, floats in the air and launches a volley of projectiles at you for a half minute. The most egregious example of this is God of Avarice where you fight him for 2 seconds before he goes through one of his 15 different interactive cutscene moments some flat faced gook retard shoved into the fight.
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It finally randomly worked after relogging a bunch of times but once done, the remaining quest is bugged. It shows as autocompleted and the path doesn't count for the 6/6. Nice playtesting lmao.
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>tedious HP gates wherein the boss hits thresholds to stop taking damage
holy fuck I thought I was going crazy. I usually lock in and forget to check the HP bar but the silent phase transitions really exist
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>>563072189
mastery is a measure of how high your rollls are not if the stat is good.
gold lines are a range. i.e. you can have 90% of max value on a gold line or 100% on a gold line. it'll show as gold in both cases. for example, your m ax phys line on the left is 54.8 and on the right it's 52.6. Both gold both the 54.8 is better
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>>563092769
wonder if gauntlets will make things better or worse
for some reason guantlet charge attack kind of lets you stun and knock down the boss for bigly hp dmg in some animation which will probably be buggy as all hell
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The interesting thing about it is that Stonesplit - Might seems to account for the weaknesses of the weapon. Obviously you have to do charge attacks on Modao with the Might path, and just like with the Modao charge attacks on Strength, you cannot dodge out of the charge or the attack portion, but the HP Shield the might path is built around doesn't count against the No Hit challenge if it doesn't break the shield.
Given that the bread and butter combo of Strength grants Tenacity, you would expect it would also grant an HP shield, to account for this, but that's only technically true. In order to get an HP shield with Strength, you have to run with the Modao martial art for 4 entire seconds, and then use the attack, and only AFTER all that you get an HP shield. That basically never happens and is totally impractical.
I don't even know what insane logic was behind the idea of the modao martial art "powering up" after 4 seconds of running. How many bosses won't attack you for the 5 seconds it takes to complete that whole animation? How many people would want to waste that much time not doing damage anyways rather than just use Cloud Step? It's totally thoughtless. The "powered up" state of the Modao charge should be the default and it should grant the HP shield regardless. It's not like Hengdao would become overpowered were that the case (in PVE anyways), because it's already totally outclassed by easier to play martial arts like Silkbind Jade and what have you.
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>>563092769
Agreed. Shit's a joke. I actively chased the leaderboard ranking, but I stopped caring about trials overall very quick. Also didn't help that the cosmetic rewards look like absolute ass.
I just bang out whatever's easiest to get 10/10 and call it a day.
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I chased the leaderboard ranking on Tianying very early on after the global release and I held the number one spot for a week, but after that I couldn't compete anymore for a really bizarre reason.
Tian Ying, unlike almost any other boss fight in trials, has black screen transitions inbetween phases as a psuedo cutscene skip, but the duration of the blackscreen can vary wildly AND the timer counts down during the blackscreen. This happens at the start of the fight, and the transition from phase 2 AND phase 3.
The duration of that black screen is caused by latency and serverload, so during peak global playtime it's longer, and due to the fact that I'm west coast and this game's only US server is based in Virginia, I am literally incapable of being competitive in Tian Ying because the duration of the Stonesplit - Might time attack is so optimized that the retarded programming of the netcode in that fight precludes me from holding the number 1 spot.
That should give people an idea of how jank this game is at times.
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>>563092769
>wasting your time with tedious HP gates wherein the boss hits thresholds to stop taking damage
This is really annoying. As much as I love that game, there were a few bosses that did the same thing in Wukong as well.
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>I held the number one spot for a week
Kneeling. I made it to top 10 on Lucky Seventeen and Curtaincall (2nd fight) before I stopped.
>a really bizarre reason
It's as if they were using exploits (like Wolf Girl) or straight up cheat programs.
>That should give people an idea of how jank this game is at times.
Yep. On Lucky Seventeen, if you staggered him during any of his attack strings he would do repeats. ie. if he's on his knees in the first phase doing the lateral sweeps he'll do it twice. And depending on how you got him to second phase, he would sometimes already be in the process of charging up an attack during screen transition making it a botched run.
Puppetmaster was even janker. If you burned his life fast enough you can skip both phases entirely.
I'm just glad this shit is free so I'm unburdened by sunk cost.
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There's a new retarded issue with Hexi bosses.
When the fight starts or right after the phase transition, if you use a skill it will just go into cooldown doing nothing so you need to wait a bit first and it's not really clear. This shit is terrible for a mo-nkey because you want to refresh your shield and drumbeat buff as soon as possible but now you're forced to wait for a second while the boss doesn't wait and is already slamming and interrupting you.
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>>563094702
everybody is dying honestly.
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>>563115495
it gets worse, gayer and more depressing
why did chinks think making campaign inside a dream would be good idea?
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Spotted this dude in the MT raffle server and he gave me the ick
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>>563117253
this is nyot true
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>>563117112
It's really not that bad, but when people start to run out of content they tend to also start drama. Especially lately I'm seeing multiple guilds literally dissolve overnight due to internal conflict.
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>Be me
>Be fighting moongaze maiden
>Run away
>Ebin cinematic attack where you are not allowed to touch her
>Fight abit more
>Run away
>Ebin cinematic attack where you are not allowed to touch her
>Fight abit more
>Run away
>Ebin cinematic fight where you are not allowed to use your weapon
Jesus fucking christ
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This dude is pretty chill
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>>563034537
If a player no longer needs ebon iron, are multiplayer sword trial bosses the most efficient way of spending energy?
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Nice, thanks senpai.
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I hadn't recorded any of them but I did for the last one I had to do since you're curious.
https://files.catbox.moe/dimqgu.mp4
I can tell you that in most cases, it's honestly easier to complete no hit challenges by playing passively and focusing on deflects. The camera often is positioned in such a way, especially against smaller humanoid bosses like Feng Ruzhi and Wolf Maiden, that your character model obscures the boss and makes it difficult to tell what they're doing if you're in their face spamming flashy particle laden attacks.
Many bosses also have oppressive HP gates and phase changes where playing aggressively barely saves any time because you spent your time reducing their hp instead of their Ki, and they end up restoring all of it when they phase change or go past their HP gate. You can see this most egregiously in my fight with the Prince in the video I posted, where he only had enough HP to get his Ki depleted exactly once at the very tail end. Someone playing more cautiously would not be much slower because they would have gotten several executions instead.
However in my case I'd made a point of saving the no hit challenges for the Hengdao release because I wanted to have fun with it and improve with the weapon, even though this game is set up in a way that I fundamentally have very little application for developing my skill with the weapon other than, well, other no hit challenges that are forthcoming, since sword trials, hero's realm, and pvp which makes up the bulk of people's plays almost nothing like solo content. At least I'm done and I can put this shit behind me.
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Kino
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>>563128316
I like the game but that doesn't mean thats it isnt simultaneously fucking dogshit and needs some kind of content. 120gb for a chat program just to beat you over the head with ching ching nonsense once every two months that doesnt make any sense half the fucking time isn't going to cut it.
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>>563080570
my favorite archetype
white hair, black clothes, angular but soft face, implied to be some kind of demon
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>>563134375
Well, God of Avarice is far from the hardest boss in the game, but I was fighting him for longer than any other boss because I was trying to learn Hengdao at the same time, as it had just come out. I mentioned this in the thread already, but there's a glitch with Hengdao where buffering an attack input during the deflect animation will cancel the deflect frames without cancelling the deflect animation, and since I buffer the light counter right after pressing deflect, I didn't realize I was causing my deflects to glitch out and not work for something close to a full day.
The actual hardest boss is Gambit beneath the shimmer, I doubt there's much question about that.
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whats our ai video generator site now that grok isnt free anymore
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I brought this up earlier but it's absolutely crazy how they expect this game to have competitive leaderboards when shit like this happens.
5 whole seconds of delay that's counted against my runspeed. It can be as low as 1 second if the server is more responsive at that particular moment, or you have lower latency. No effort made to fix it.
My friend has the number 1 spot on the leaderboard for Silkbind - Jade against Everdeer because his game glitched out and the boss instantly died when he was supposed to go into phase 2. Try and imagine how much of the leaderboard is polluted with weird glitches and exploits with that as a heuristic.
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Very meaningful convo
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>>563147357
Of course I switched. In PvE it's probably the most enjoyable weapon, and even though it's outright broken and OP in PvP I just couldn't get used to it since it handles quite differently to other weapons.
And since PvP is my main poison I had to switch back.
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It was not at all what I expected it to be. People often described the Hengdao as the primary weapon and the Modao portion as "buff stick", but that was not an accurate characterization of the martial art at all. The bulk of your damage comes from Burning Heart (Modao), and on bosses that can be reliably staggered, which is conservatively half of them but probably closer to 75% of them, you can do it with a fair bit of consistency because of Fleeting Trace.
It's definitely the most fun and aggressive weapon you can use right now, but it also seems like there are conflicting design philosophies. What appeared to me to be a counter weapon in many cases ends up being a beat down stagger lock weapon, and the only reason that isn't broken is because of how buggy staggering is and how enemies get random hyperarmor frequently in such a way that often makes it like gambling.
I was really surprised at how jank it was when it seemed to straightforward. If people play with just the Hengdao without using the Modao they're really gimping their damage output so dramatically that it would be better to use basically any other martial art path.
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>>563147357
I have always been a tankfag so hyper mobility + high dps weapons aren't that interesting to me. Plus i am afraid that my brothers would get their faces raped in sword trial (industrial grade copium)
I just wish that Mo didn't succ (heh) that much in pvp
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>>563151530
Because it's not really an MMO in the traditional sense.
It's closer to something like Warframe which also advertises itself as an MMO despite being very distinct from other games within the genre like WoW or EQ.
You're kind of allowed to have your own instance and interact with the other players at your own discretion while in traditional MMOs player contact is basically mandatory.
Admittedly the actual mm aspect is handled kind of poorly since the Co-Op world is kind of useless bar few mechanics that were designed for it.
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>>563155139
The new free outfit, you dunce
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>>563150890
it's becoming maplestory tier eventually where everyone is just flavours of dps
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oh i was looking for agile steps greaves but i'll probably just swap the set like the another anon suggested
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Kino
The campaign was so short though
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Haven't checked socmed in a while and one of the first post I see is this lol.
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>>563159947
It's an egregore of all the princesses or something like that hence she's so cunty.
I'm still convinced the white snake from the death of a governor quest is actually the immortal emperor and daddy of the snake princesses.
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>>563160158
There is only one Tang princess being praised like Goddess in Liangzhou map, because she was sent to another country to get married, and when I was talking to an NPC at the island, which used to be her resident, the new info triggered a pop up led to the medusa character tab
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I have a thousand hours in this game and I know basically NOTHING about its story and find Chinese names confusing.
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>>563161096
so that's why a lot of players consistently struggle against her?
surely it has nothing too do with the fact that she kills you with two swings by the time you get there, has 3 phases and like 5 times more overall hp than any other boss you've killed so far while also having a semi randomized death combo in p2?
retard
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>>563157093
Should be Guo Xin then, he's also resting now because of the event (Departments on Leave) so you can instant win if farming
If you haven't unlocked yet different story of course
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>>563157093
Never mind I'm retarded. I have all 3 campaign bosses unlocked and none of them drop greaves specifically no
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Omg I can't believe WWM managed to make me hate lesbians, what a fucking dogshit story
The first one was nice, I like it a bit more than Burlap sack story so I have high hope for the next one, but it was so bad, this is why you shouldn't force fujos to write yuri
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>>563175083
Maybe it's not yuri in the first place? Have you thought of that?
>two women being friendly and supportive of each other means they munch carpets
Actually demented. Porn has truly fried people's brains.
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>>563175546
Anon, since you're such an idiot, lemme explain it to you:
>The whole story is about breaking free from anicent women's fate in political marriage
>In chinese (and many other cultures) literature, moon is a symbol of love
>Their talks are always about 'my moon', 'your moon', 'I will take the moon down for you' bla bla bla
Beside,
>two women being friendly and supportive of each other means they munch carpets
If they are simply friends, her family shouldn't forbid them from meeting. You don't exactly need to secretly take a glace at your bff on your way to the church either. The grandma only compromised because she understood the nature of their relationship
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This one >>563129171
the theme is 'homesickness'
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Stonesplit strength doesn't have any seasonal challenges in the first place. I assume bamboocut dust is bugged.
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Why would anybody waste a harmonic core on effects for a garbage weapon you use once at the fight's start? Are they buffing it?
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>are they buffing it
Yes
>garbage weapon
It's not only better than mo blade, it's extremely strong in the right hands
I had an entire discussion about this with a top 50 who uses it after I caught him 6 times with no exaggeration only to do minimal damage each time and he was full health when he killed me, said it will be the new meta in a two months time
It gives insane damage reduction, has easy catches and an easy true combo that won't deal any crazy damage but is reliable
It has tenacity on most of its attacks making them not punishable
Failing to win with stormbreaker is entirely a skill issue
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Did you never fought somebody with stormbreaker? This shit is super annoying because it's extremely safe.
>>563186649
And paired with hengblade its extremely cancerous because it doesn't care what you do and you won't run from it anyway. You can be 100% time on offense.
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Stormbreaker spear has a good AoE guard break and a damage reduction buff on Q that deals 0 damage.
Near worthless special that even harder to land on anything than twinblade's Q.
Garbage heavy charged attack that takes too long and deals low damage. People can walk away at will.
In PvE it's literally just used once at the fight's start for the drumbeat buff.
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I thought the outfit would be salvageable if i could just recolour it into some fade and rugged outfit to larp as an old, seasoned warrior
But no, you can't take off the cutesy bones and dog dolls. This shit is faggotry thru and thru
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>doing path trials for healer
>level 1 paths
>random ass level 81 fan and umbrella
>T0 inner ways
>need to resurrect niggers or something
>do coffin master
>have to actively stop healing to let somebody die
>can keep them up easily otherwise unless they fuck up the mechanics
>meanwhile every time I queue normally, the healer is some retarded faggot who lets everybody die to residual damage and also dies himself
Healer is ridiculously braindead in this game. There's no mana, no threat, no cast, you just spam your heals and that's it so how do they consistently fail at it?
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I recently did a pub coffinmaster where his unavoidable aoe brought everyone else down to 5%
just queue long enough and you'll get matched with hilariously undergeared people
but yeah healing is so braindead, that's why I prefer the intellectual stimulating alternative of spamming my dps rotation
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they added a feature in game where they give you instructions for each and every anectode, wandering tales, and all that junk called windtail. Theres even a comment section for other players to pipe up.
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Yes, you can still do it. It is in the cave. Talk to the ghost npc at the entry will let you fight it. Ignore the npc and explore further the cave let you pet it.
You need tolight 4 candles and dive in a pool under an elevator to enter the secret cave.
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Dyeing outfits/hair increases your score and you can keep doing it over and over.
Retarded troons like Scy literally spent tens of thousands just spamming dyes to boost a meaningless number and yet still look like the default crying chihuahuas with the furry ears and tails from week 1.
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>spend hundreds of thousands on the game
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I still like the game but it’s just a bit grim rn. Doesn’t help we’re a year behind cn and even they haven’t gotten the changes that would truly help the game. The dev interview was somewhat encouraging, especially the news about servers, but it’s taking too long and like you mentioned almost everyones gone already. Hard to come back from that
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pn_PtCFVIWI
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>tfw no harem of healsluts
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no no you must understand, I'm loyal to a cuckquean healwife who wants me to have harem of healsluts. It's loyalty through polygyny
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>>563253381
He has a slash attack which deals ~50% of your hp bar in damage to everyone and applies bleed, and if your healer is a hybrid faggot who runs fan (very rarely umbrella) + damage weapon - you're all dead.
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>>563231872
they werent thinking. arena schedule was based on CN timezone and only during a certain timeframe on release. they didnt wait to let global catch up to CN (its fixed there) because the response was overwhelmingly negative
the difference in situation here is that there simply isnt a massive response from 200k+ people questioning why gvg is the way it is
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netease website lets you increase the quantity you buy. so you can buy like 10x12000 pearls in very few clicks
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there's a hack that only applies to the 1 default hair if you wear an iron bowl inside your head, it'll use your hair color but on the default hairstyle
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bad healer
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>all the complaints are from niggers who want to grind 24/7 like monkeys
I'm glad there's no "endgame gameplay loop" or whatever the fuck so I'm not a slave to the game like it always happens in Korean games for example.
Those fags need to touch grass.
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the glasses aren't even on the ads for dog outfit
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those glasses are so fucking ugly. harry potter looking shit
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>>563269562
the issue with this game is that they've decided they don't want an endgame where NEETs grind for 80 hours a week or take a week off work to grind while leaving everyone else behind in the dust. cool, i get it.
their brilliant solution was that if there's no content, then everyone is on equal footing which is literally retarded. "we took out your endgame so you can't fall behind". the real solution is to keep the content but don't tie it to vertical progression. even worse, typical time sinks like grinding cosmetics are not viable because cosmetics are their main income source.
the real solution is to create a game where you don't fall behind in the gear department (i.e. FOMO) while letting you log in and still clear raids with your bros. i.e. appeal to the weekend warriors. but add things that are worth grinding like mounts, not shit cosmetics, side quests/stories or levels in some shit that isnt combat.
also add side content with high or infinite progression that is grindable. something stupid like Triple Triad or some other TCG-esque game, skilling (like Runescape or FFXIV but not as soulless) or even some low IQ procedurally generated dungeon. there's ways to create grindable content that doesn't create disparity. shit like landlords, madiao and mahjong don't cut it because you can't grind/progress in it
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Why would grinding even be bad?
If levels are capped anyway, why not let those that want to grind for as long as they want to to incrementally improve their gear that either won't matter outside of their solo world or it won't be that big of a deal?
No one is going to complain "this nigga had +10% bamboocut penetration when I only had +2% stonesplit penetration, that's why they won" and if they do, fuck em'
It'll matter to those who care and not be a problem to those who don't.
Players should be rewarded for putting time into the game otherwise they'll just quit.
Right now some boomer fag with a full time job that logs in for 20 minutes a week could be on the same level as a player who has both the will, time and dedication to put much more hours and grind into the game.
The boomer will quit if there isn't a constantly refreshing shadow on the wall (via live service) and the gamer will quit because no matter how much he'd be willing to play and give to the game, he gets stomped down to keep things "fair".
Holy shit this is basically video game communism now that I think about it. Glory to the CCP!!
The only grind in this game currently is the PvP and even that is barely hanging on by a thread.
I'm not asking for a second job here, I'm asking for freedom.
They finally released a good fucking hero trial when the mechanic isn't just the boss being a bullet sponge and "go here once and press F" but you only get rewarded once a week for playing it?!
Not to mention they so blatantly lowered the legendary drop-rate for both gear and attunes. You'd always get at least one legendary when opening the full three-claim sword trial chests but now I'm lucky to get a purple. It's so clearly done to artificially inflate the grind before the next update comes out.
I had full energy + overflow that I've been spending any time I get enough for a triple claim since day one of the new breakthrough and I don't even have a full legendary set.
LET. ME. GRIND.
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i can understand the logic behind the devs not wanting grinding. because grinding isn't all that fun a lot of times and it makes the community start gatekeeping niggas who are less geared or it makes the gatekeeping worse. and then people who don't grind start feeling left behind for not grinding. eventually you got an MMO that only caters to hardcores. think Lost Ark and playing 6 characters a week and having to do raids on all of them... otherwise you're bricked
but my point was more that it's clear the design philosophy is not to support grinding as a way to vertically progress past other players so rather than fight that, they should make it possible to grind in other aspects of the game which are not tied to power level. like okay, you dont want players to be level 5000 and do 50 million damage a hit if they grind 120 hours a week, makes sense to me. but why not create some content that is worth grinding such as side content like skilling. in runescape and ffxiv for examples, some niggas literally just cut trees and have fun progressing. they might be retarded but they have a good time. the game does need some low IQ content that can be played near infinitely without leaving people behind. for example, let's say they added a Pokemon/Yugioh/MTG/Triple Triad like minigame into WWM. (ignore how retarded the idea sounds for a moment). they could put cards everywhere around the world (as drops/quest rewards/prizes/raid rewards) and you could battle other players with it and even play in tournaments. that's a lot of content for players to grind without having people falli behind in damage and getting PIPed by the guild jannies because their performance wasn't comparable to their peers in GvG. one thing i remembered in FFXIV is that niggas would literally farm fucking mounts and run the same ex primal 100 times to get a gay horse
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They want players to active every week, if you're done grinning new gears in the first breakthrough week, you have even less purposes to open the game on the 3rd week, and it's unfair for those can't gear up at the same time as you
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Imagine being so bad you need unfair advantage against dad gamers
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Heres your next martial art set. Say something nice about it!
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>>563291968
Who said anything about an unfair advantage?
I want to work hard towards something, not jump through the hoops whenever the devs say "hop" and otherwise be allowed to do nothing.
Also, d(e)ad gamers aren't going to keep the game alive for long.
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The bandits don't get to her when it's shown she has her eyes damaged.
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That's what I was thinking. There have been some royal families with insanely harsh punishments before.
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I can't believe theres still people arguing in favor of the current endgame system
They see shit the top guilds losing players left and right, HS losing players left and right and go "this is fine actually"
I wonder why that retard is still in HS or even this general if it's a simple singeplayer game with no endgame
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Some info from the offline event today
>New region Qingzhou will be next-door to Qinghe, approximately 40h of exploration
>Rats can now pretend to be sick
>MB can now hold team building
>SN will have specific medications tailored to each different sects
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About Inkbound Order:
>1. You can join the Wenjin Hall through the "Study Abroad and Travel" program. Furthermore, leaving a sect offers greater freedom, and you can obtain an additional recommendation letter from the Wenjin Hall, which allows you to quickly join other sects.
>2. Disciples of Wenjin Hall uphold the principles of "solemnity and upright conduct," not only strictly disciplining themselves and striving for integrity in their actions, but also harboring a heart for establishing rules for the world. Disciples of Wenjin Hall may step forward to stop and punish uncivilized behaviors such as other wandering knights' acupoint manipulation interference or malicious use of animal poison.
>3. Experience a campus life includes exams, dining halls, libraries, dormitory checks, and attending classes
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It's hard to care about it with the way it's presented.
Burlap sack had a clear goal, a mystery box (sack) element to the story, a logical flow of events of who when and what happened and a satisfying conclusion. Both in the way wrapped up its story threads and a climactic scene for the main character.
The pipa story is just some moody asshole whining about his dad to his imaginary friends.
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It's a trip to understand why his grandpa (the guy that got saved by burlap sack) left him to go back to Chang'an, I thought he had ptsd with the pipa or sth but it turned out he couldn't play bc he no longer remembers the melody of his birth place anymore, the letters he wrote everyday are more of a reflection diary
Quite meaningful if you ask me, it's just the story has too many deep implications and the narration isn't helping. Maybe he is suicidal because he is autistic and depressed, maybe he is already satisfied to be able to fulfill his promise to reach 'home' with his grandpa
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what fuck you im a cat
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>>563315537
You will never be a cat. You have no grace, you have no balance, you have no toxiplasmosis. You are a flea-bitten mutt twisted by drugs and upper-class white tiktok moms into a crude mockery of nature’s perfection.
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The substance is there, but there's no hook to it. The story is too short and too nonsensical to become attached to the characters. The surreal party where you get to know people with the thematic connection the overall plot may sound good on paper, but actually playing it was mind numbingly boring.
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I didn't read the community event post about Moongazing Maiden so I ended up wasting a bunch of time when I'm not even allowed to post videos in the discord so I'll just post it here instead
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZgLSFf1V9k
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support fan sounds interesting since it has a CC. prob a long one too for landing drum beat
was kinda hoping for a bit more complexity from the drum. idk maybe the special skill will save it
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the main issue is they made the main story quest about some absolute nobodies that nobody gives a shit about. There was no action or tension, it was just some slow burn character drama with zero payoff. like if star wars episode 2 was completely focused on Uncle Owen the moisture farmer. He could have all the internal monologues/conflict he wants, it's still a dog shit story. Nigga could struggle with depression, autism, asthma, diarrhea, crohns, homosexuality, having indian DNA in his ancestry, retardation, and bipolar disorder. It wouldn't matter, the story sucks cause no one cares about this dude.
star wars is darth vader vs luke. i want to see Luke fight Darth vader. And before that, I want to see Darth vader do some fucked up shit like raping lukes mom's corpse with his mechanical cock and his force sensitive prostate so that the upcoming fight becomes ultra high stakes. deviating from the core premise of martial arts hero saving the day is retarded. people don't want to watch a story about uncle owen the moisture farmer and if they engage with it, it's after they finished the trilogy and wanted some extra supplementary content because they don't want to leave the cuck wars universe. in hexi, where's the fighting or the build up to the bad guy? who/what am i saving or fighting for? where was the build up to Guo Xin? he looked like he was just tacked on like the howlion. and why tf is howlion even there at all? what are my motivations for fighting you aside from getting to the next area?
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The biggest problem is with just how fast it delivers its damage while being entirely safe.
They catch you and deal the damage you'd do in a 10 second combo in three while you can't even serene if you wish to combo them back.
Best case scenario you serene immediately, tank one unavoidable hit (half your hp btw) and hope you catch them again sometime while praying they don't catch you because that would be a loss in the next 35 seconds.
And even if you dodge and they miss their gay nigger soldiers that were supposed to be cool still hit and catch you even if you perfect dodge the original attack (why couldn't they just make it so that they only hit if you get hit by the initial slash especially if they made it so that avoiding one gets you hit by the other?!
Oh, and did you know about the bug where you can NEVER free morph a tang player because that weapon and that weapon alone is bugged in a way where they can get up mid-air after getting hit by free morph in (what would otherwise be) a true combo and use any of their attacks, including special which makes them invulnerable and combos into a 100-0? You basically have to predict whether the bug will or won't happen and if you don't cancel your free morph in anticipation, dropping the combo, you get hit and die... Isn't that fun?!
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They have tenacity on everything but tang charge attack.
They get to retain mo blade Q tenacity for about five seconds even after swapping making their instant charged m1 after tab swap charged R entirely unpunishable.
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hengdao + soldier mo dao is definitely one of the most drooler builds out there, honestly on par with fanbrella
I don't think the weapon itself is hard to deal with and has very low prio on most of its moves, and I actually think it's quite average when paired with other weapons, like even paired with nameless spear, either sword or even twinblades feels better than hengdao
but paired with the mo dao (while admittedly I don't think it's the best build), it's funny how people can just mash buttons randomly and scam quite a lot of wins
it's not really possible to trade with using tenacity because the damage is so frontloaded that they'll always win out quite heavily, and any mistake is very punishing
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Any hengblade that isn't 1.2 mythic pisslow will instantly poet after missing R so you can't even punish them.
They also have soldiers raping you even if you perfect dodge their R (especially if you perfect dodge, you're quite literally punished for playing better against the weapon).
Plus they get to keep tenacity from mo blade moves so you can't actually "ape them down".
The only reason you think heng is weak is because most people who play it don't know how to. If you ever fought a 1.5-2k heng player you would change your tune instantly.
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>https://streamable.com/qbba2j
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nice ai gen content. ram just went up another 20$ you fuck.
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>seething this hard over a pixel
MC is also a retarded no body but barely anyone complains, the first two chapters' lesson is basically calling him out for being naive and stupid, somehow you find that more well-written and meaningful than Hexi's stories?
These stories are about people longing for a motherland that no longer exists. Sound familiar to the MC's situation? These characters were never meant to play major roles in the main storyline, yet even as background figures, they contributed something valuable to their country in their lifetime. Just say you can't recognize good writing and skip it, no need for these useless arguments.
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I'M SO FUCKING SICK OF NAMELESS SWORD AND SPEAR OH MY FUCKING GOD THESE NGIGERS WILL JUST RUN ALL GAME, SPAM BEAMS IF YOU FAIL TO PARRY A SINGLE ONE YOU DIE, THEY WILL JUMP BACK AND SPAM BEAMS THAT DEAL HALF YOUR QI AND INTERRUPT ALL YOUR ATTACKS THEY WILL STUN YOU IF YOU TRY TO PARRY THEM WHILE THEY JUST GET TO PARRY KNOWING FULL WELL THEY HAVE A SECOND SERENE BREEZE EVEN IF YOU DEFENSE BREAK THEM THEY WILL NEVER LET YOU GET CLOSE AND IF YOU DO WELL THEY JUST HAVE SECOND SERENE BREEZE ANYWAY OR A NORMAL ONE ANYWAY MEANWHILE THEIR BEAMS DEAL A QUARTER OF YOUR HEALTH EACH AND THEY GET TO SHOOT THEM FROM POET OR CLOUD STEP OR ANY FUCKING ATTACK AND IF YOU FAIL TO REACT TO BOTH THE BEAMS AND THE ONCOMING DEFENSE BREAK PERFECTLY THAT'S AN EXECUTE AND THREE FOURTHS OF YOUR HEALTH GONE IN A SINGLE MISTAKE HOLY FUCKING SHIT REMOVE THIS NIGGER WEAPON
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Lmao
did you forget their Q catch that reaches across the arena and also has prio over most attacks?
the one they get to cancel any time so it's not even a little committal or dangerous to just throw out whenever, and always chains into a true combo with toad venom?
the age of (righteous) shameless complaining is upon us
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>it's just empty
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Stormbreaker Spear + Nameless Sword/Spear will be meta in a two months time mark my words.
Screencap this.
The buff is coming. Even without it is a monster.
It will be turbo chungus noskill and everyone will play it.
No need fagbrella/strat/heng oneshots. No need for mo blade shields. Just raw damage negation, easy true combos and permanent tenacity on rotation. You will rue the day this shit invades your every arena game.
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We lack comedy, that's why we're dying.
Any wwm meme I see is either a retarded reddit wholesomerino bullshit or forced corpo slop. The only good meme this thread ever produced was that one "square to circle" drooler one (remember when people were still only mad about strategic sword...). No, chihuahuas aren't a meme even if you find them funny.
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>permanent tenacity
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>>563393073
It's a tiny overexaggeration but if you chain your attacks between spear and sword right you will always have priority over anything the opponent does bar a defense break which you can't combo off of anyway.
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Q is hard to dodge with how inconsistent it is due to distance, it has a true combo with both nameless sword and spear Q if you fail to dodge.
Special (E for some reason you psycho pig) has tenacity and can be used to tank through oncoming attacks, hit when they can't defend/dodge and combo off of it. They are also buffing its tracking and if you're close enough the first knockback guarantees a hit of the pulldown which combos into a 10 second with free morph.
Charged heavy doesn't need to do damage when you just use it for combo purposes.
Yes thrust is already strong and easily spammable + leads into true combo if landed
>conveniently omitted the insane damage reduction it gives and when used together with nameless there can be entire 10 second combos where you deal no hp nor qi damage against it
It's strength doesn't come from oneshotting you, it comes from gradually whittling you down because its resources are endless, low cooldown, consume no stamina, have long tenacity windows that chain into parry/dodge which you can't combo into, plus an insane amount of damage reduction + the new damage reduction inners, and it lets weapons like nameless sword easily do its 10 second combo which is more than enough damage
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>defense break
My bad I meant divine parry
Point is basically none of its moves are punishable
Lets say a twinblade Qs in your face, you just parry or poet them and they're punished for playing like a moron
Or heng uses its charged m1 after special immediately and you can catch them during that time because they were hasty (ignoring for a moment actually good heng players will just poet cancel their m1)
Actually its similar to how heng special works, they can just throw it out, become invincible, and after it ends you can't catch them even if they didn't hit you and would be otherwise outrageously out of position
You should be able to punish a move like that, where they're clearly stationary and helpless after missing their big damage attack, but you can't because they have residual tenacity which, much like the toad mystic skill, ensures that they can always get up and do at least one action be it a dodge or a parry or poet regardless of how you assail them
I'm complicating things.... imagine an after-execute get-up
That's what stormbreaker spear gets on nine out of ten of its moves
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>>563395849
You don't play fucking arena and you never faced someone competent with stormbreaker spear or you do use it but don't know how so you moan here you dumb nigger kill yourself I think you should die actually
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>stormbreaker spear is good if you pair it with troonstrike which is overpowered by itself
>that means it needs to be nerfed instead of the actual troublemaker responsible for turning arena into an absolute joke since day one
dishonest troons
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>>563398231
Both weapons are strong.
Yes, bellstrike is still the outright strongest in the game currently.
That doesn't mean that stonesplit spear is weak, even alone.
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>Everyone finally stopped sleeping on Stormbreaker spear
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>>563399323
I won't play it I just want people to acknowledge how strong it already is but just because the people who play it are handless tank or heng mains that can't use it people have the impression that its weak.
Multiple top 50s are already running it with other weapons and that's *before* the huge buff that's coming that will make it even easier and stronger.
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>>563399323
this general has always preferred to complain about every single weapon (including healer lol) instead of learning the game, it's only natural
there's some monsters in ladder using stormbreaker, usually paired with a weapon that can combo off of its Q, like hengdao, and apparently this is the weakest version of the weapon that'll get buffed quite heavily
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>>563413283
>danyue
IM TOP 100 BRO I DUEL GHOST ELECTRIC AND AM THEIR DISCIPLE BRO
>has jobbed virtually every halftime they ever participated in
friendly reminder that even that nigger vroe has a better win record than him
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I remember when GVG first started thinking "well at least we won't have to worry about losing the halftimes"
anyway its a testament to how powerful we are that we tend to win anyway
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I dont know about you but i started GVG thinking "well i hope that our halftimer gets raped horribly on stage"
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WHY THE FUCK DO I """""""EXECUTE""""""" A NIGGER FOUR TIMES AND NOT ONCE DOES IT ACTUALLY DO ANY EXECUTE DAMAGE AND JUST TUMBLES THEM OUT OF MY FIRE BREATH RANGE WHILE FULLY RECOVERING THEIR CHI AND I CAN'T EVEN RECATCH THEM
HOW THE FUCK HAVE THEY NOT FIXED THIS ALREADY
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no i just didnt realize i exported it as a .mov and not a .mp4, here i'll remake it https://litter.catbox.moe/gkd59ehjak4b6gv4.mp4
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but i even heard the parry noise...
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>>563421889
The knockup is two hits with a 0.2 second delay between each other, you'd need to parry both.
You also need to start your parry *before* they use their skill otherwise you'll get hit by either one due to parry windup.
Your best option is to hold block.
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lol how are you still losing to fanbrella?
their stun is the easiest dodge in the game. at range you can hold block and react dodge talon. otherwise press poet or breath when they do anything and you’re invincible
it’s even worse for them if you play nspear, strat sword and/or HQ spear which outright counters them
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He's cheating, isn't he? Also the whole event is dogshit since it excludes 95% of weapon combinations.
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>>563430697
Another cheating nigger from phase 1. Netease won't even remove them lmao.
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You can't be in the ranking unless you play meta.
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That feeling when your food stamps get rejected.
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>>563431342
The top of my platoon leader ranking only had 70k or so. I had 30k and was 12 or so out of 23. I haven't checked since the reset at 7am and won't be able to till I get home but I think I should be fine.
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>>563439765
>>x weapon true combo
>>look inside
>>m1, Q, special
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>>563421657
Which bosses are hard in the new region? I've only done the world bosses so far but the deer and the circus guys were both 0 deaths on Legend and Moongazing Maiden only killed me twice with some of her big attacks the first time I saw them.
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>>563429058
Couldn't tell you, I'm not a chinaman. Can't blame the players who quit, because Hexi story is atrocious. I have hope devs heard the feedback and will make more kino like Qinghe and Kaifeng. Players want heroic adventure about flying chinamen with superpowers and kung fu, not some semi-historic gay sob story
>>563443890
>I am the punishment of God.If you had not committed great sins, God would not have sent a punishment like me upon you
It is your fault
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>>563458321
at this point I'll just join a friends guild in eu
that, or find some degenerate fujoshi guild
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>>563070071
He did mine quite well, I don't know why that girl is avoiding him.
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>>563130951
Damn, that's beautiful.
How ping dependant are those abyss challenges?
I'm rather shit at combat but would like to start properly practicing after clearing all the current content and are really only logging in to spend energy/do dailies.
Is 110~130ms too high for those high end challenges or do you think with enough practice it would be possible?
I love how clean these no hit clears are.
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>>563458321
How do you anons struggle to find an active guild? I'm in Oceania guild timezones and even I've been able to join three different active guilds over the past 150 odd days, and we have barely any players in the region compared to other areas.
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No worries, MC is only interested in uncles
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based painter making a MAN out of twink wanderer
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if the game allowed me a beard with that mustache like how he painted I'd gladly use it
but don't worrythe stache had to go and im gayer
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>>563496585
You can't cloudstep through the wall anyway and even if there's no wall they will just use the umbrella's stun to hit you as soon as you land and if you cancel the step they will hit you with the fan knockup or some mystic skill while you're defenseless.
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>>563496725
Yeah I know, that's why I don't use it.
But it's also the only way to drag these niggers to the ground, otherwise they just beam you and you either run out of endurance or qi/hp eventually. Successfully parrying them shouldn't consume endurance....
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I haven't touched the multiplayer world much despite playing to the game day 1. How do I get disciples? I don't have much things to do in the game so instead of helping randos, I thought why not get disciples so we both benefit from it.
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>>563497610
I think you apply to recruit a disciple, but to actually get one, you probably have to spam in world chat for newbies to see you and reach out
Or join some other social media groups and advertise yourself
I also want a disciple for myself, I would train them into a proper healer
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>>563502401
Well, over the past month or two since we started cheesing other guilds with fanwalls, no one has stopped me from boxing a tree even once and I'm dropping them every 100 seconds.
The game doesn't provide teams with tools to prevent it and it ends up turning GvG into an even bigger semen slurping extravaganza than it was before
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>>563512237
same. I've bought too many shop skins to give up now
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>>563511857
maybe. i like wuxia as a theme and thats the only reason im willing to put up with wwm despite its subhuman chinkoid design.
it looks like a cross between monhun and vindictus so i might give it a shot but i have a suspicion it's going to be filled with the same issues wwm has.
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>>563514741
use the phosphor technique of mind control
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>>563517883
Well you can just watch this and you'll agree that the system needs work. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8GdUnIkiJp8
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>>563518274
Say what you want about WWM but the art direction is really good especially the fact it's their own culture. When chinks try to do sci-fi/fantasy they just mix and mash every culture together from modern technology, Chinese clothes and symbolism, tribal carvings, and the final result is generic/lacks identity.
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>>563517883
WWMs PvP honestly just needs balancing. The foundation is very solid.
If they, like most devs, were releasing balance patches every month or two (not changing the meta so things aren't stale, just maintaining balance) WWM pvp would have huge potential.
>>563517989
I think I'll give this game a try but is that a hero shooter?
I thought you'd be able to make your own character...
The combat doesn't seem very engaging and I don't see much counterplay to most of what's happening on screen but maybe that's just because I have no knowledge. I'd just hope it doesn't play as dull as it looks, even if the visuals are fine.
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before they even begin to balance they need to work on the netcode. it's come a long way since release though to be fair.
regardless, they've captured lightning in a bottle and sat on their laurels for six months. do you remember how hyped everyone was that they got the Beast (RIP) to do a role in their live action trailer for mobile?
that's been the state of the game since global launched: wow XY and Z has a lot of potential.
it's simply too bad chinks have slant and beady eyes so they can't see it.
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1. They just need to increase the number of servers, which they mentioned was in the talks already, but that will introduce its own set of setbacks, mainly a diluted queue & additional expenses.
2. Make certain combos not-so-ping-reliant. For example, twinblades & strategic sword (nameless sword to a lesser degree) both suffer from this, where if you lose on ping you just lose. If they fix that, ping would only influence reaction times to inputs and actions, which can be offset with more braindead weapons that don't care about ping much like Mo+Stone, HQ, fagb or Heng.
The hard part about that is that you can't exactly make combos so braindead by not making them rely on ping where even if you mess up, because they made it more generous, they'll remain in a combo and can't punish. Otherwise just skip the entire combo part and just do all the calculations on first hit lmao (obviously that would be retarded).
Imagine they make a weapon like strategic easier to combo with so it doesn't drop as often. All you really need to do to deal a shit-ton of damage with it is have your timings down, but if they remove the timings and possibility of the combo dropping and them getting parried, it will become the most braindead weapon yet.
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>Make certain combos not-so-ping-reliant.
>ping would only influence reaction times to inputs and actions
that would certainly be step into the right direction. i can see into the matrix and react accordingly as a reflex but that is entirely useless and detrimental in wwm because of the delay.
>The hard part about that is that you can't exactly make combos so braindead by not making them rely on ping where even if you mess up
i'd unironically be okay if combos required frame perfect execution over what we have now by making things clientside. ping reliant shit just ain't it.
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>>563522534
New CN patch teased his appearance a bit and... he looked the same.
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>>563521924
I think "troonstrike" is broken both damage and engage wise. Strategic in the former and nameless in both. But they are heavily ping reliant. That's not a good thing no matter what.
If you can only win because the enemy had higher ping, you're completely ignoring the main issue. Their strong aspects should be nerfed but they should also be fixed so the people who play them aren't punished for nothing. Never did I say they should be buffed you absolute troglodyte nigger.
And yes, the weapons I listed as braindead ARE braindead simply because they don't care about a fair 1v1, they just either tank everything easily or have both insane defense/offense with no downsides except one weakness that you *might* get to exploit but besides thinking about that they don't need to think about the combat besides doing their braindead rotation that would work just as well on a PvE boss because the other player doesn't get a choice. That is all.
You obviously know basically nothing about PvP. It's sad watching your posts every thread. Post rank.
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>i'd unironically be okay if combos required frame perfect execution over what we have now
Well, if you have that then you're going to have to rely on ping.
For example, they're planning to buff twinblade demon mode on cn, where previously the demon mode M1 would drop between m11 m12 m13 m14 you get the point, while non-demon version doesn't work like that and m11-14 are all true. This is objectively a good change but if you apply it to something like a HQ free morph combo which requires strict timing (not hard, but strict) but in exchange cannot be countered with serene breeze and does 100-0 damage the weapon becomes admin lvl with none of the skill it requires currently because they could just afford to fuck up and keep doing the combo regardless (though admittedly HQ doesn't suffer that much from ping already, I'm just using it as an example).
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>>563523415
>For example, they're planning to buff twinblade demon mode on cn
interdasting. have they made any attempts to address the soft lockon the weapon has? that was my biggest issue with twinblade and it was glaring compared with other weapons. or is that shit irrelevant in CN client?
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>>563522693
It really is.
I hate and suck at traditional 2D and 2.5D fighting games but this game has everything they do and actually makes it fun.
The overall core of the fight is still reliant on catching, footsies and reactions to what your enemy is doing. A player with better reaction time/knowledge will beat someone who is worse 99% of the time.
The biggest problems are weapons that introduce no-win scenarios. For example every top 5 player you tune into will complain about fagbrella because the weapon is just cheap and can beat you if you don't play 100% perfect which just shouldn't be the case especially since they don't need to put any effort into that. Some weapons get to do triple the damage of others in the same timeframe, that also sucks. That's why balance is the biggest issue currently, but I digress.
I assume you dislike the
>get hit
>10 second cutscene
nature of the fights, but realistically it just introduces more things to be skilled at. For example, if the enemy can't count for the serene breeze timer in their head and you can, you can exploit that by being free to put yourself into a disadvantageous position and leveraging your serene to get a free catch on an unavoidable stun while you know theirs is still on cooldown for 10 seconds.
If you're good at parrying, you get to leverage that. If you're good at faking out you can use that. There are so many viable playstyles and everything works smooth. You don't need to learn combos or anything, you just need to press Q but if you do it at the wrong time or in the wrong situation you still get punished.
Anyway, I think the gameplay really is solid. You don't need to aim, but you can. You don't need to have insane fingers and induce arthritis 30 years too soon to do combos, but you can. Personally, it gives all the positives of a good fighting game with none of the negatives.
But the balance is still shit. Fuck em for it. They need to work on that.
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>>563523484
No, they'll keep Uncle Jiang youthful-looking forever, but release new uncles to keep everyone happy.
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>>563523758
Not sure. Yes the Q lock on is atrocious lmao. You can still just walk (no need to run or dash) to the side and it will never hit you. But why do that when you can just parry it and exhaust them... anyway...
Stormbreaker spear is getting a tracking buff but I think twinblades Q is intentionally trash and will remain so. They want you to use your light attacks to catch instead and only use Q to extend combos I guess.
Point blank is where it's decent, but that's about it.
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>Yes the Q lock on is atrocious lmao
i was more so commenting on demon mode. you magnetize to wherever the closest hurtbox is in relation to your character regardless of where your model and camera is facing.
i play with camera lock on and off interchangeably so it was really apparent.
>They want you to use your light attacks to catch
yeah they made it obvious when they nerfed its frames by making it slower
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>>563524879
Hmm, I don't notice it that much since I'm a lock-on slave and usually just try to leverage it to my advantage but I know exactly what you're talking about.
Do you have the "attack closest target" setting disabled?
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>>563509403
take humble defense/fearless and parry everything. only time you block is to trigger your perception skill. when the lion does his breath, run in and mash dodge left and right for close to 10 stacks. scream at the top of your lungs when you're charging and yell nigger as loud as you can when unleashing your charged R.
i think someone posted an 18k mo monkey howlion for p2 a while back as well so try copying him
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>>563525963
This is what I hate too.
They introduce a whole "skill" mechanic where if you're good enough for nohit you should be rewarded but they base it on parries against the boss whose 4/5 attacks are yellow. Good lord....
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>>563526756
Has your Liangzhou changed?
Don't worry — here's how to switch it back.
https://x.com/WhereWindsMeet_/status/2043720872972652867
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>>563525963
dodging gives you humble defense stacks as well. in fact it might be superior to deflect at times if you're using ghostly steps.
are you in HS/HS discord? I posted a streamable of my nameless 18.5k no buff run. Not as good as the 23.5k run but the ideas are the same.
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this isn't about no hitting though. this is about maximizing DPS while doing mechanics. two different concepts. its like dark souls. there's a difference between a no-hit run and a new WR. no-hit plays it safe, WR runs take risks and do whatever it takes to shave off time
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Is there still time to catch up
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>>563531757
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Depends on what you mean by high.
At 40-50 ping it would still be playable but if you are ping diffed by more than 20 your m1 > Q combo drops and it's harder to initiate catches off m1. The timing on that is already very strict.
At that ping your demon mode m1s will basically always drop. I get away with doing them all because my ping is low and the only thing that matters there is whether it's lower than your opponents. If theirs is lower... you're getting full parried, so instead you have to Q between each one (it makes twinblades sort of a fun little ping radar).
I definitely wouldn't recommend it over a weapon like HQ if your ping is in the 60+ range.
The biggest thing though aren't even the combos it's how fast you can react to everything else. Twinblades have no tenacity outside of demon mode so your margin of error when playing them is razor thin given how fast and numerous their attacks are, so if you make a mistake it is very easy to fully exhaust you off a single one. That's why most top twinblade players play a sort of "hit and run" playstyle until they have demon mode or can be very sure you're not going to serene breeze/parry. At high pings it becomes much harder to cancel your attacks and abilities in time to prevent you from being exhausted or staggered by a different attack (twinblade Q has notoriously low priority over every other Q in the game) which is why most people don't bother.
I wouldn't say it's more ping reliant than strategic sword however.
A side tangent: I really wish they made the twinblade special usable in PvP especially since it has the perfect timing mechanic :(
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chasing the dumb lion around is really making me reconsider it
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>>563534596
that’s really dumb. what were the devs thinking
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>At that ping your demon mode m1s will basically always drop
damn guess i’ll give fan or spears a try like that you and other anon said. thanks
>I wouldn't say it's more ping reliant than strategic sword however.
I see, is that because of the special skill into charge r combo dropping or something else?
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>>563537313
>damn guess i’ll give fan or spears a try like that you and other anon said. thanks
Noooo give twinblades a shot we're a dying breed
People who aren't ping-monsters don't use the demon m1 combo anyway, instead you Q after each m1 but it's still better since you get a damage boost and tenacity. Most of your damage will come from rats anyway (unless you can reliably do the Q > free morph > R > E cancel > m1 combo where you don't really need rats but they're still nice to have even without vendetta).
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>>563536643
How does that help though? You lose the drumbeat buff (and weakness) which is a part of the bulk of your damage and gain what exactly? You'll be sitting with a T4 heng inner way and need to replace battle anthem with something.
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Umm....
Yeah I wouldn't bother mate.
You could probably get to mythic with healer/inkwell with that ping since you only need to land one attack with each and the rest of the combat is spamming parry and invincibility.
The weapons are so braindead you could play them at 200+ ping but overall it's going to be rough either way.
Or you could try your luck with mo blade since you don't need combos and just have to land a single attack which most mythiclets will throw themselves into.
With your ping, giving gforce now might be worth a shot if you can afford it. I hear it helps.
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>>563547276
No, YOU will be sitting at t4 heng.
Yeah, don't play it if you don't have t6 but with t6 it enables you to not only have a shield and mo divine parry but also basically all the destructive and chase power of the heng. Succ combos into tab R.
The only difference between having soldiers and not having them is whether you kill them through qi core from full health or have to catch them one more time.
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>>563550323
I did get to mythic last season with my PVE attuned strat and HQ but it was pretty rough, and I don't think I will do it again. There was the very occasional person who had worse ping than me though so I could actually land dragon's breath after execute even if they dodged and I would get to see the other side of dodging out mid-combo.
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>>563544453
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CibVCWBSBzg
this nigga has no problems hitting the boss. is it your camera/targeting settings? are you locking on? maybe you have to hold down diagonal arrows so that your mo blade charge hits the nigga.
mo blade isnt all that different from nameless. just hold R. you can copy the exact attack timings i did for my 18.5k no buffs run and you'll probably be near 20k. just dont flute as much cause mo monkeys don't get a multiplier out of it. or at the very least use it as a baseline for how you use your cooldowns/optimize attack windows
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heal build is the most dishonest build in the game even if its dogshit. It relies exclusively on ghost step dodge running with t6 dodge inner way to catch people with the 4 frame DB into poet spam after they get frustrated chasing a nigger around in a circle for 30 secons. I always time these niggers out just out of spite.
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>>563559907
are you retarded perhaps?
>relies exclusively on ghost step dodge running with t6 dodge inner way to catch people with the 4 frame DB into poet spam after they get frustrated chasing a nigger around in a circle for 30 secons
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>>563560732
don't worry, you can't explain something you can't understand
not only you are illiterate you also clearly never fought a healer
from now on everytime I'll see anyone sharing their "opinions" about pvp in the thread I'll remember you so I can remind myself that drolling retards are in the thread and they just can't be helped
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>>563561394
>slip of the tongue
you type with your tongue?
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>>563560912
ok since you're a braindead caveman let me repeat what the reply that i replied to said and explain what they said to you.
>heal build is the most dishonest build in the game even if its dogshit
the reply is claiming that healers are dishonest because:
>It relies exclusively on ghost step dodge running with t6 dodge inner way
the healer relies on using the ghost step mystic skill and the t6 dodge inner way to
>catch people with the 4 frame DB into poet spam
catch people with their one close range damage combo (dragons breath and poet)
>after they get frustrated chasing a nigger around in a circle for 30 secons
after they (the healer) get frustrated trying to chase their opponent to get in range for their close range damage.
hope that helps!
also how are you losing to healers that are running away from you? all of their damage comes from mystic skills (they are all close range lol)
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>>563561950
strawberry didn't leave HS, she died to Iranian missiles
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Been playing for a week and I think I want to queue into some PvP. I‘ve been basically only playing Nameless Sword so far in the story and haven‘t used secondary much. I read a lot about people here saying Nameless Sword is about running away. I think that‘s gay, so can you play Nameless Sword like a man too or is it too garbage and I should go for something else if I want to get in there and kill people with my cool sword?
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>>563562472
nameless sword works well either running or chasing. Just remember that if you catch on your Q1, parry cancel after the first hit of Q2 then do Q3. The game is defensive in nature so remember to space and get a catch on failed engage or a dodge. Also pvp is pure cock and ball torture until youve got an inkling of competency.
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>>563562472
You want strategic sword, nameless kit is about ranged attacks, evasion and catching people with your martial art(sword throw) into whatever combo you can use with your secondary weapon. You can pair both of those too.
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>>563565287
All of the biofems I know in LOL play backseat support exclusively, and when they play damage, it’s only in a fun, nonsensical mode like ARAM
>>563565298
I dont believe it
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>>563565570
Time to keep up with the times grandpa, you're not in your 1.6 lobby anymore, you're not playing halflife deathmatch with your classmates during CS class. Biofems play a lot of pvp games and no, they're not "just backseat supports" exclusively. Also moving goalposts, you admited yourself they play pvp while claiming just post ago they don't. No, don't reply.
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>>563565180
There are women that have competed in tier 1 tournaments in Marvel Rivals and Overwatch. (Aramori, Geguri, Aniyun).
A lot of women are good at video games, just they lack welcoming environments that they can compete in.
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