foxes

fuckses

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so this is what a part 3 recruit looks like huh

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>Aha! I have a brand new business idea!
>They have an Angel World and Demon World right?! Then let's make an Angel World Cake and Demon World Cake!
>And we can have a competition ta promote it!
>"Which flavor do ya favor!?", the billboard'll say! The one with the most sales will be the winner!
>It's genius! This is a brilliant plan!
>two days later, her test location would be the ground of one of the most brutal battles in the history of the AW/MW war
>Okyuu would then later scrap the promotion after having to chase the groups off herself when she was unable to give her own answer on which side she preferred, but not before the angels and monsters burned the stand to the ground
>Quote: "I didn't know this was such a controversial topic, I'm just a tourist here!"

>>563131387
fair and balanced

>>563131387
That is surprisingly on the more balanced side of things believe it or not.

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Fox marriage edition

Album of my lewds: https://catbox.moe/c/w5gtyf

Friends commissions: https://catbox.moe/c/vo902u

The latest, April Fools, Slime Luka.
https://catbox.moe/c/fzocb9

o that spot the difference on a fox girl game is on sale

>>563132692
she would get bored and kill him in under an hour

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>succubus wife
>best sex

>>563134597
>LUKA
typical luka wank i see

>>563134597
human girl luka

>>563130630
when did the trope succubus are mega powerful become the norm anyway in medival version of they needed repeated contact and only in the dream to kill a man

>>563134597
>anon kill luka
LUKA RUN

>>563134609
Is mega power succubus that normal outside of monster girl porn? Succubi tend to be pretty low level mooks in most stuff

>>563134732
dealing with devils is dangerous anon. and also otaku powerscaling autism

monster girl quest paradox has made me want to play wizardry

>>563134732
This is a porn fetish so you may as well use the sex demons, crank up their powerlevels to insane heights so the femdom part works and there you have it. It really has nothing to do with anything other than succubi are the sex demons and this is porn

https://www.allaboutbirds.org/news/darwins-other-bird-the-domestic-pigeon/
DARWIN WAS A HARPYFAG!!!

>>563134732
Gotta give the Demon King/Warlock character a girlfriend that isn't ugly, and then she had to be super powerful because she's the girlfriend of the top villain.

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>>563134597
>Human girl Luka
I mean, that's pretty much just a doppel right? Don't need a transformation sequence for that.

>succubus wife best sex
Sure thing!

>Shiki harpies
That's just the Dark Phoenix.

>rape hard Myusca
Good luck with that.

Demons in general have been given way more powers than they used to have. Most of the time they really only had powers as much as they could tempt people to do stuff but nowadays they can fight goku because temptation isn't really all that in of itself

>>563135178
Ultimate beta behavior ngl needing a beatiful woman and also powerful be villain gf

>>563135178
How many times does the demon lord tend to have a demon GF and have her be an actual boss, though? Closest I can think of is Airy from bravely default but she's not really a demon

>>563135198
>>rape hard myusca
anon you misunderstood, thats a succubi phrase meant to pump her up. like break a leg

>>563135198
"raped" is a situation where an individual finds themselves completely powerless and at the mercy of their opposition.

>>563134597
How dare you! This is SLANDER! Harpies do NOT eat people and My Wife Reina is NOT a violent person!! This is ridiculous!!!
She's just easily startled, but all that happens is she keeps flying head first into walls and trees because she refuses to put on the safety helmet!

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>>563130630

>>563131387
No, that's what a split route recruit looks like.
Wait til you see an actual final route major character.

>looking at literally thousands of pidgeon varieties/races
That's a lot of sex.

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>Beat the final event stage with only Okyuu and Aqua
>Turns out they actually paired Okyuu and Aqua up together as the headers of the final stage in the first game
>She proceeds to flood the map with a hoard of her own detached tentacles
I'm honestly just really happy that they remembered the two and they got to be included again after all

>>563134597
>sonya death

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>B-b-but miss angel! It wasn't "monster sex"! It was merely a "monster-assisted masturbation"! How was I supposed to know she would eat my cummies?
>B-b-but mister Anon! This isn't "punishment"! This is merely a "temporary (20 000 years) penis confinement inside angel pussy"! It's for your own safety!

>>563146926
>fuck monster girls
>get rewarded with angel sex
what did the angels mean by this

>>563146926
panty and stocking are too good for this theard

>>563132952
You really don't know Daji.

When does part 3 get hard? Does it ever? I just retook the monster lord castle. ONE MORE GOD REJECTED
The Lilith sisters and Luka and Alice have been just vaporizing everything.

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>>563147569
It's only fun and games for the first 2-3 dozen of consecutive cumshots.

>>563131387
>this isn't even that powerful when compared to most shit you see in Part 3
TRTR really ruined the game's balance, didn't he?
It's just insane bullshit vs even more insane bullshit on top of absolutly stupid stat numbers

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After a day under anesthesia, Nekomata Aran's operation has been successful. He is now recovering from it.
His first words upon waking up were "my dick hurts" due to the catheter.
https://xcancel.com/nekomataaran/status/2042396568989680128

>>563134597
>alice game collab

Black souls collab???

>>563148291
Third route is where things kick into high gear although some of it can boil down to being in the wrong place at the wrong time.

All creatures possess potential for a natural Technique. Dragons breathe fire, Phoenixes are immortal, and Kitsune steal your money.

They don't want you to know this but if you ejaculate inside a monster you actually win.

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>>563153364
This is true. Can confirm. Proof: just look at it.

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>>563130175
So who are you even "supposed" to be using in Part 1 and 2 if it's all been power crept? I've been using Jaide because I thought she looked cool, then I realized she was OP as fuck so I started using Luxuru too, and Limiter Release + Assist Vulcan + Support Bit (if it even gets there) just rapes everything because they do an attack and then get 4 Vulcan follow ups for like 50k damage each. Are you just supposed to be using the loli bandits and then the elemental spirits? I'm even playing on Paradox, and I think the last time I died to anything was back when I was using the loli bandits, and it was only because they missed a skill or something. Though I should probably switch one of them to Robin because Attack Down seems like it might eventually be useful, and it'd probably be Jaide I switch out since Luxuru seems objectively better, but I actually like the way Jaide looks and I think Luxuru looks weird.

>>563165914
As long as you can use abilities and the debuff-based weaknesses, you're going to be OP in the first two parts, and if you had been using the bandits or the spirits all the way through, they eventually would have gotten OP anyways if you kept giving them new jobs. Race limitations and traits will make some girls stronger than others, but the only ones you might not find OP are unimportant humans, but using basic battle fuckers and the RPG Maker asset characters is not fun.

>>563169560
>but using basic battle fuckers and the RPG Maker asset characters is not fun.
nta but some battle fuckers were qt

i like MECHA POPE

>>563171462
He gets replaced by a female Ironman and the Grand Noah Queen who do the same thing as he does, but much better.

>>563172069
okay but as a character he's fun

>>563148694
>my dick hurts
didn't he also say this before because he kept gooning to his own work

is there somewhere i can buy seeds of lineage and the job xp ones. i have so much cash and nothing to spend it on

>>563172918
He mostly retweeted stuff while waiting at the hospital. He also took commissions while in the hospital bed.
His last tweet before the operation was いってきます (I'm going). Around a day later he retweeted some guy talking about reverse rape and then finally said ちんぽいたい (my dick hurts), then in following tweets explained it was the first thing he said upon waking up and that the most painful part of it all was getting a tube in his urethra.

vampires control the banks

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>>563175545
the blood banks?

looking back on it, I wonder how people were reacting to just how off the rails part 1 was before we got 2 and 3, like did people immediately know loliias was the iias from the VN, that Neris and Nero were VN Luka's son and daughter and that Sonya was not human? The entire part 1 ending sequence must of really hyped people

TrTr trying to do a 4th route with max level Luka and Chaos is odd as hell, how are they even gonna justify Chaos to the other party members? are we taking both IIias and Alice? if we do that means tIias won't meet her retarded friends and Alice won't have the Luka house hold staff , that's really all those two amounted to in the end

>>563177878
>Neris and Nero were VN Luka's son and daughter
i mean neris calls herself alpheese the 17th in part 1

>>563178527
and lolilias warns luka that she knows every person thats been born and that there is no sonya

>>563131387
This isn't the most coked but it is funny to compare it to a random part 2 mob with "Can always use thief, service, and insect skills. Thief and Service skills have 66% SP cost."
This game's fucked.

>>563148647
Tbf that trait is just random bullshit slapped together so of course it actually isn't op. It sounds awesome but it isn't even better than Alice or the Lilith sisters traits
>>563165914
I think you are meant to use Lolice/Lolias in hindsight so really you are supposed to use anyone. It just goes out of the window with Part 3 because you have more route exclusives with Black Alice/Eden and the Lilith sisters or Seraphs

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>playtime: 100 hours
>total battles: 2020
>library percent complete: 25% (TWENTY-FIVE percent)

>>563182219
Hold shift

Are twin fairies the only character that boosts Oracle skills?

>>563182575
There should be some battlefuckers two, but yeah if you want an oracle user those two are the best

>>563182956
Okay, good. Those onas are going to be my Yugioh champion then

mine is lazarus with his fat blunt

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>>563183882
https://pastebin.com/zuHTZ5yN

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>>563184063
https://exhentai.org/g/1591460/c9ad3e2c2a/

>>563131387
Her trait isn't actually that special outside of the chaos element resists it just seems overwhelming because it's a wall of text, the trait screen needs a cleaner format.

>>563139262
I’m sure people would care more if they actually knew who those two were

>>563186346
He's talked about them before and is even modding them into Paradox. By this point I know more about them than the girls in Three Charms 3

why is luka such a goddamn quickshot

>>563184870
The All attacks inflict X is more special than the chaos resistance in the long run.

>>563186705
>I know more about them than the girls in Three Charms 3
theres a kitsune that wants to make hakunen her male bride, bat girl is hakunen's ferry service and bro, oni sensei likes having a shota to warm her bed, lolibaba yokai hunter who eternally seethes at hakunen for befriending every yokai he comes across ect.

>>563186748
His angelic heritage. It's a commonly known fact that penis is happier when it confesses its sins faster, and he evolved accordingly.

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>forbidden medic job finally adds skills that affect the backline

Okay I don't need to use deflectors on everyone now besides the medic and shield yes yes?
I'm thinking skill haste and just throw the entire party at the enemy yeah?
Does over quick have more priority and will future bosses use them?

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so uh what happened to luka in the shrift collab? he became bunny boy and then dies instantly

>>563188842
>Does over quick have more priority
No, but it's Quick x2 so it's overpowered on any agility scaling attacker.

>>563189474
Well yeah but unbuffed oblige infini high vanguard GALAXIA already rapes everything anyways
Does the Giant's Tyranny delay overwrite job skill haste? Seems like they'd make for the best tanks if it doesn't

Is the Collab Scenario obligatory?
And if it isn't, am I missing out on anything
besides some companions by not doing it?

>>563193945
Luka learns an ability to add pleasure to everything
Mermaid to Human and Human to Yoma/Demi-human race changes
Blue Magic, Shield captain, and Morrigan jobs
The latter two you get really late into the game and are basically forced to use Part 3 characters if you want to use those jobs without the items, and you would never get the Luka buff and some other decent but not really noteworthy equipment that are given early.

>>563189226
Just a teaser for Part 3, much like Three Charms had Ideas Luka.

>>563194359
That does sound like a lot of important stuff.
Ugh, I guess I have no choice than...

>>563195141
It is
>multi-race Luka with add all pleasure
>skills that have conditionals and can be used in other skill types for stuff like Stats Down Time Magic
>best defensive job in the game
>Heavy Technique/Converter plus 2 barriers
even without using collab characters after the collab, these options will result in a playthrough massively more powerful than one without.

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Why are there so many images of tamamo kekking alice

>>563197024
Where?

>>563197387
I was looking on pixiv and found a surprising amount

>>563197024
Some guy requested it out of spite for Alice then developed an actual NTR fetish and kept requesting. "Developed" is a funny word, though. He probably always had the fetish and only figured it out then.

>>563198998
Monster girl games lead to many awakenings that some might consider unnatural.

>>563198998
Cuckqueaning is based and is the biological natural order of things though. It's possible for many women to want to compete with the best men to father their children, and since they are carrying their own pregnancy, they know its their own child. Traditional NTR (i.e. male cucking) is an abomination and goes against the biological natural imperative of men, because it calls into question the legitimacy of "their" children with the woman.

>>563200434
>want to compete with the best men
**for the best men

>>563200434
go away harem fag

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making beds shake plapping Luka seems like the dream of every one of Luka's companions

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>>563197024
as with many things on the internet, it's due to one man's unchecked mental illness

>>563202000
>he doesn't dream of plaping luka

>>563200434
It's uncivilized and about 1500 years of religion have looked down on non-monogamous relationships for a reason.

>>563202214
>image
All I want to see in part 3 post game is the original world. Especially original Luka and Alice interacting with Ilias.

>>563202576
>Lolias standing on the table describing her numerous adventures with inuel/puruel and paradox luka
>Og vn cast is completely discombobulated by the information overload of it all + ilias being alive + ilias being a loli + ilias being friendly

>>563202386
Science flies you to the moon
Religion flies you into buildings
*dabs*

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>>563186346
Don't hurt their feelings they're Good Girls
>>563186705
As an aside the discussions even with newer players of all the increasing levels of broken-ness and absurdities makes me feel a little less bad about how I've statted some of the things I plan to test out, but I still kinda miss the era of Part 1 and 2. I'm trying to make everything feel fair and balanced, even if it's just for the principle of it. Honestly, if you took the original release of Part 2 but just removed the terrible evasion kneecap he added in (re: giving all the enemies an absurd hit rate buff that made player-side evasion completely worthless but all enemy evasion work as normal) then I think that's pretty optimal.
>>563165914
The ideal way (or at least trtr's original intent for Parts 1 and 2) is using the girls that you just genuinely like the most and trying to make the most of those girls with the trait that they have.
I.e;
>I like Jaide, so I will use Jaide
and then assembling a party of eight like that. Jaide did not originally have android, so she was not originally as overpowered as you're correctly experiencing her being. She was still really powerful, to be clear, just not android since android is the most overpowered race in the game.

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>>563204154
And Satanism flies the moon to you

>>563204154
You'd be safer with religion, there are scary things living on the moon

>>563204248
currently experiencing* d'oh
>>563190810
Giant's Tyranny does not, delay will always override priority. Giants are still obscenely powerful though, and going after everyone else can make sure that they get buffed and charged before they move. It's not as big of an issue as you might think it is, having used Garuda.

>>563204486
t. brain in a jar

>>563200434
I can tell this was written by a retard who just wants to justify his own fetish to himself, because if you actually knew biology you'd know that what you call "an abomination that goes against the biological natural imperative of men" is even MORE common because male animals of innumerable species will mate with as many females as possible in order to try and make sure at least one of the children she gives birth to is his, because the female is going to mating with as many males as she can in order to have as many children as she can, and by mating with as many males as she possibly can, the female helps to protect her offspring because the more likely it is that she had the offspring of a male, the less likely that male is to kill all of her children and the have sex with her to make his own children. This behavior is particularly common in extremely harsh areas where survival of the fittest is paramount, and the threat of having all newborns be slaughtered to trigger estrus in the mothers and restart the cycle is common.

You're basically an animal, especially for the "it's ok when I do it but not when it happens to me" logic. Humanity being monogamous is the natural order of things for humanity, and the most successful, stable method.

Sub illias implies the existence of Dom illias

>>563204248
>least trtr's original intent for Parts 1 and 2
His intent was more likely that you use Alice/Ilias and Sonya, but that doesn't mean anything when they're mid tier girls outside niche strats

>>563206120
>because if you actually knew biology you'd know that what you call "an abomination that goes against the biological natural imperative of men" is even MORE common because male animals of innumerable species will mate with as many females as possible in order to try and make sure at least one of the children she gives birth to is his
Well, yeah. Men's biological imperative is to spread their seed as far and wide as possible. Nothing I said is contrary to this. The abomination is a man getting off to "their" girl being shared with other men. That is the abomination. Male cucking is an abomination that goes against the biological imperative. Wanting to have sex with everything is not against the male biological imperative.

>because the female is going to mating with as many males as she can in order to have as many children as she can
Well, no. A female's biological imperative is to have kids with the best man that she can, which is why cuckqueaning is based and is the biological natural imperative. It's natural to want to share the best man with other women. Or, it's not natural to want to "share" him, because sharing him loses some access to his resources, but it's generally preferential to take that loss if the man is by far the best option the woman has.

>This behavior is particularly common in extremely harsh areas where survival of the fittest is paramount
It is indeed common, as an example, for lions to kill or force out male cubs that were fathered by lions who were not himself. It's more natural to want to kill the offspring of a woman who is "yours" than to want to raise that child, which goes back to male cucking being an illogical biological abomination, but for cuckqueaning to simply be the natural order of things. That same lioness who had her male cub killed by the new pride leader will then mate with the lion and have a new child that's his.

>>563204440
satan =/= lucifer

>>563207028
All forms of cuckoldry are illogical, primal and animalistic behaviors. Humanity is superior, and finds highest efficiency with dedicating time to one pairing, unconcerned with such things. Human harems always descend into absolute failure, because the women shall behave as the men, and they shall try to sabotage and destroy each other and the other's children, or degrade the man and seek to take possession of him, and he loses control, no longer holding the power or authority he believed that he had as a result of his own hubris.
You are nothing more than a male lion, and I will look down on you for the lowly beast that you have exposed yourself to be, unfit to live in the true, proper order of Humanity. As you desire to cuck other women, you will be cucked yourself.

>>563208020
>All forms of cuckoldry are illogical, primal and animalistic behaviors. Humanity is superior, and finds highest efficiency with dedicating time to one pairing, unconcerned with such things.
Alright, well how about this. Cuckqueaning is significantly more in accordance with the natural biological imperative than male cuckoldry is, which is entirely contrary to the male biological imperative and is thus a complete abomination.

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I don't need any scientific reasons to care I think cuckoldry is shit no matter who's doing the cucking

monster girls cuck human girls all the time

I know that the thread is slow and all,
but that doesn't mean it had to be derailed into a debate around NTR...

nta but I get my greatest faps from cuckqueening, doujins where guy cheats on his gf with the gf's sister or his sister are peak

>humanityfags genuinely think they're superior to animals
In 10 million years there'll be no proof we ever existed on earth aside from fossils

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is she bored or something

>>563208167
>Cuckqueaning is significantly more in accordance with the natural biological imperative than male cuckoldry is
A women wanting (or being ok with) her man getting fucked by another women is as much of an abomination as a man wanting (or being ok with) his women getting fucked by another man. It's the same thing. It's just that women getting cucked is your fetish and you wouldn't be happy if the same thing happened to you.

>>563208918
>need perfect laborers
>create human men
really makes you think

>>563208791
because the stars will belong to us

>>563208935
>A women wanting (or being ok with) her man getting fucked by another women is as much of an abomination as a man wanting (or being ok with) his women getting fucked by another man. It's the same thing.
It's isn't at all "the same thing", and if you can't see that then you're not worth engaging any further with.

>>563208935
>A women wanting (or being ok with) her man getting fucked by another women is as much of an abomination as a man wanting (or being ok with) his women getting fucked by another man.
Harems are bad now?

>>563208918
>Sams are so focused on farming they don't even know what a woman is
>when there are angels right there
lmao either angels aren't women or they're dumb

>>563209052
why not just use robots

>>563209551
You'll find out in a bit

>>563209551
You know Promestein would make them consume too much semen for that to be cost efficient.

>>563209275
It is the same thing, you are simply a retarded cuck who doesn't like this being pointed out to you because you know you have no true rebuttal. You just prefer being on the other side of the coin, that's really all it is. But you're still a cuck participating in cuckold behavior either way.
>>563209398
>Harem bad
Yes.

>>563209726
How about robots that run on... something other than semen? Like, maybe, electricity?
This way you could power them with burning fossils, wind, solar, geothermal, nuclear and all that good stuff.

>>563210158
>It is the same thing
It's not at all the same.
>you are simply a retarded cuck who doesn't like this being pointed out to you because you know you have no true rebuttal.
I have already attempted to explain the difference to you. Male cuckoldry is directly, 100% contrary to the male biological imperative. Cuckqueaning is not contrary to the female biological imperative. That's the difference, and that's what makes male cuckoldry an abomination. I've tried explaining this to you already, but I guess you can't read and are only further portraying why it's not worth engaging with you if you are now incorrectly asserting that I have no rebuttal. I've explained it to you, you just can't read or are being extremely disingenuous and/or are baiting.

>>563210393
>>563131387
Read Gnomaren's monsterpedia entry.

>>563210158
>Yes.
Why, if people consent there's nothing wrong with it.

>>563210501
It is the same, it is contrary to biological imperatives, you simply do not understand them correctly because the truth does not justify your fetish to yourself.
>I have already attempted to explain the difference to you
I already explained why your 'explanation' was incorrect. You attempted to deflect with "well but it's still MORE natural than-" but for humans it is not. It's contradictory to both human men and women "biological imperatives". This is why it is ridiculed and made fun of so much. All the different cope words like ntr or cuckqueening or swinging do not distract from the fact that at the end of the day it's just someone trying to dress up being a cuck to make it look less pathetic.

>>563211101
[-]

>>563211045
harems are like communism: it sounds nice on paper but never works in practice.

>>563211263
Ok that's not really an argument, like why don't they work? I'm pretty sure rich sandniggers still have them

>>563211463
All significantly rich and powerful men have multiple baby mommas.

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Let me tell ya, anons. This generic male npc is gonna be getting raped.

>>563211463
>>563211045
>consent
>rich sandnigger harems
Are you trying to tell me those are made with love and consent anon? Hell I don't know if I even want to touch on that one, it gets pretty sad.
But in general for the average 'ideal' version I think most people tend to envision harems do not work out due to a combination of jealousy (the original 'unwilling to give something up' definition), envy and the natural desire to monopolize the one person and have them to oneself kicking in. Essentially, the opposite thing of what the other anon was trying to claim. If there is one stereotype about human women that I know is infamous enough to be known here it's that jealous possessiveness. Heck even Alice has that and iirc she claims lamias in general are just very possessive and jealous monster girls. Even though she's not really one and just has the genes of lamias, since she's more some kinda messed up demon-chimera-thing that just happens to look like a lamia.
>>563211254
[+]

>>563211687
he's seen some shit

Hey bros, is there a way to play Paradox on my Android? i wanna play on my phone

>>563215008
joiplay

>>563212225
Alice is an echidna, which tend to bw called the mother of monsters, or at least was one before a potential retcon.
Don't know if this was a translation thing where she was only called a echidna in the english version, Echidna, the most disgusting thing ever made for MGQ, has a complete different kanji in Japanese conpared to the echidna species, or the names are the same, leading to a potential genetic connection the lamia species have with Xelvy's last horror surprise.

>>563215526
Well I figured Alice I and her daughters were metaphorical echidnas in the sense of 'snakish thing that made monsters', but I didn't remember her being directly named that in the original game. She's usually just referred to as a Yoma in Paradox, and her trait is built around it too, hence all the rapier and dark focus. If it was in the original, it's possible that it's something trtr later retconned.
honestly Echidna can even make me feel bad for the trio, no one deserves to have that thing inside of them.

>>563212225
>Are you trying to tell me those are made with love and consent anon?
No idea, I assume the consent is there at some level at least.
>But in general for the average 'ideal' version I think most people tend to envision harems do not work out due to a combination of jealousy (the original 'unwilling to give something up' definition), envy and the natural desire to monopolize the one person and have them to oneself kicking in.
I mean all of those sound not the worst as long as they are reined in, like as long as harem members don't injure each other then bit of competitiveness wouldn't be bad maybe? Idk where I was even going with this argument really, in a fantasy setting it could work with some monster girls since all this is mostly cultural

>>563148291
>When does part 3 get hard? Does it ever?
The game was designed with you having each party member master one or two different job lines in mind for a balanced team, instead of either sticking to one or grinding out all of them. Because of how much the scaling starts to inflate (or recruits become harder to get), people start becoming more inclined to just grind tons of jobs, and it leads to the snowball effect where even on paradox you will be very overleveled if you aren't careful.

>>563215860
It was in the VN, it was the first thing Luka says when he finds her in the crater.
The yoma species itself was a retcon, since it was was just a category of strong monster, more of a title than a specific species with close ties to Fat Alices and her six daughters.

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>>563215948
>I assume the consent is there at some level at least
I don't have the heart to get into that one

But I will just say that I don't think jealousy, that unwillingness to give up something you care about, is inherently a bad thing. Envy is, as it's the resentment and malice wished upon another out of the desire to have something that they possess, but jealousy in of itself is not always a negative quality unless it gets taken too far. But in a moderate or well-balanced person it's simply a very protective behavior to guard what is theirs or what they care about so it doesn't get taken away by someone else. In a romantic relationship, it is asserting that the person you love is with you, that the two of you are together, and I think it's honestly a fundamentally important thing for people to have. If you don't possess it, you will become spineless, and eventually lose people's respect.
Like Paradox Alice just throwing this entire aspect of her character out the window with her marriage dialogue and going 180 on it is THE reason why the meme got kicked into overdrive once Part Three came out.
>In a fantasy setting it could work
that's kind of what I said earlier by how it always sounds nice but never really pans out.
This isn't even a cultural thing, it's just human nature. Humans instinctively have this jealous unwillingness to give up what they believe should belong to them, and that's applicable to pretty much anything. So as long as just one person involved retains that jealousy, then it will fall apart, because one person will believe that the person that they love should only be loving them, and be theirs alone.

And, well.
Isn't it natural for you to want the person that you love to only love you as well, especially if you're in a relationship with them?

>>563217315
oh, huh I must've forgotten that entirely, my bad thanks anon. Been a while since I saw the opening so I guess I'd just forgotten.

>>563130630
Beelzebubs?
More like Beelzeboobs lol

>>563218056
>In a romantic relationship, it is asserting that the person you love is with you, that the two of you are together, and I think it's honestly a fundamentally important thing for people to have.
Ye but I just don't see how it couldn't be 3 or 4 people instead.
>Humans instinctively have this jealous unwillingness to give up what they believe should belong to them, and that's applicable to pretty much anything.
Completely disagree with this one, most humans through the ages and to this day are basically cattle, but this discussion would really get too political for mgg I think. I'll just say that peasants or wagies barely have the stuff you said.
>So as long as just one person involved retains that jealousy, then it will fall apart, because one person will believe that the person that they love should only be loving them, and be theirs alone.
That's why consent would be important in this, so the people agree to it and know what they are getting into.
>Isn't it natural for you to want the person that you love to only love you as well, especially if you're in a relationship with them?
No idea, but I still think it's culture dependent. If I was raised saying having 3 wives is normal then I would prob think that's natural.

>>563215526
>Xelvy's last horror surprise
nta, but is Xelvy still MIA? Not even a single comment about the release of part 3 or something else?

>>563221756
it's gone, mcready

>>563219640
>I just don't see how it couldn't be 3 or 4 people instead.
Because they're going to start fighting each other over who's the dominant one or the one who's loved the most and it spirals from there. The reason it happens with two people is the reason trying to include more than that fails, because it does happen, but for each individual in it. Even when people have given "consent" and "agree" to it and they weren't whipped or consigned into going along with it against their will, this still happens.
>most humans through the ages and to this day are basically cattle
I don't agree with you, but if you're wondering why wagies are the way they are it's because those corpos are specifically trying to break their spirit and the "I want to protect what I think I should have" is one of the parts that they're trying to destroy. Hence the humiliation rituals and attempt to strangle out feelings of ownership. But even then it's still everpresent. Gatekeeping is all over the place and one of the most common forms of it on the internet; trying to protect a franchise or series that someone cares about from other people.

Also saying you view humans like beasts or cattle while trying to seriously convince me on harems sounds kind of offputting in a way.
>it's culture dependent
what is taught as normal is culture dependent. What people believe they want or should actually have isn't. It's a common source of cognitive dissonance when these start to contradict.

>>563221756
He's still gone, I'm pretty sure trtr would've been one of the first to notice if he did say something about part three finally escaping from never-ever-purgatory.

>>563218056
paradox alice lacks a lot of character honestly. she doesn't really have enough time dedicated to her to have her justify her spot as main herione of her route. like theres not a good narrative progression of her and luka going from strangers to travel companions to friends to something more like in the vn. it feels like there was a switch that flipped at some point during part 2 that said alice is now at the possessive likes luka stage. the camp segments are nice but they don't give enough to really characterize why she would fall in love with paradox luka, mainly they're just really confused over what ever their parents are doing and reaffirming that they want to have a big talk with their parents. conversely the vn is great at illustrating how alice could fall for the numbskull idealist selfsacrifical fake hero when she herself was losing all faith in coexistance. paradox luka is also lacks the complexity of VN luka, the most i can say about him is that he's nice? and wants to do the right thing? there are times where paradox luka is given a choice to side with one side or another in a conflict-him having the option to let eurburtie kill the cockroach queen stands out to me as very un-luka. luka would never even consider to not protect someone. especially not someone whos begging for their lives. paradox doesn't have the martydom complex but he doesn't have anything to subsitute for it in terms of character growth. i haven't completed part 3 maybe it gets better but i dunno.

>>563222828
I agree with you on both parts, but it certainly didn't help.

>>563216352
Guess it's time to use the dynamic enemy stats mod then. Gonna try 5x HP multipliers

>>563221946
>Because they're going to start fighting each other over who's the dominant one or the one who's loved the most and it spirals from there.
Or it could just stop on fighting and never spiral.
>I don't agree with you, but if you're wondering why wagies are the way they are it's because those corpos are specifically trying to break their spirit and the "I want to protect what I think I should have" is one of the parts that they're trying to destroy.
Lowest social stratum never had that. Poor people always had less rights than rich ones it's just way more visible nowadays.
> Gatekeeping is all over the place and one of the most common forms of it on the internet; trying to protect a franchise or series that someone cares about from other people.
And how many people do it? How many people use internet to even post nowadays?
>Also saying you view humans like beasts or cattle while trying to seriously convince me on harems sounds kind of offputting in a way.
Nah, only the poorfags are like cattle which is also most of the population.
>What people believe they want or should actually have isn't.
Is culture not a right word for this then? What you will want is going to depend on how you were raised + your experiences with maybe a small part being your genes. If you will get hammered with propaganda that you should have a family and a house at 25, then most people will "naturally" want that.

i just want to have a deep emotional connection with a grill man

>>563222828
Alice and Luka's "romance" in Paradox really only starts to happen in her route. Luka chooses her over his own father, and they start to lean in on each other when they come to terms with their actions to save their world.

Is there any way to sort the skills shown in battle? I know you can hide them, but can I rearrange them?

It honesty genuinely weirds me out that we get more impassioned arguments about fucking more than one woman as one of the ultimate evil fetishes when this is the vore rape snuff game like holy shit people get over yourselves it's one of the most basic power fantasies in existence.

>>563224786
>Or it could just stop on fighting and never spiral.
It "could".
It doesn't.
>people only want to live a mundane life if they were hammered with propaganda
Most "propaganda" is trying to shit all over that life these days and has been for years. The reason people are drawn to it all over the world throughout history even in cultures or places that discourage it is because it's literally just what works the best, and they eventually start to realize that. And people who enter a harem start to realize that too. And no what someone wants can be completely different from what they were taught was right or normal.

I mean this sincerely the more you keep going on this the more out of touch with reality you're starting to sound. Yeah poor people get fucked by life, that's kind of irrelevant to the subject anyway but they still try to cling to what little they do have, they have to. "How many people use internet", well everyone in this thread is for one and gatekeeping happens here all the time, and I hate social media sites but those things get constant usage for a reason, internet traffic shouldn't need to be explained to you. And gatekeeping was just one example, and it happens in real life too.
I get you already said you didn't even know where you were going with this argument in the first place, but seriously, anon.

Just move on and stop trying to defend the honor of the concept of harem, you're making this sound like some kind of /pol/fag thing.

>>563226492
Have you missed all the shitstorms about snuff and vore or something? Besides this whole thing started over cuckoldry anyways.
>wah no criticism
I'll voice my dislike any fetish I dislike just as much as people will voice their dislike of any particular girl or scene they dislike. People here have shit on anons for far more vanilla things, anyway. That's just how this site works.

>>563225498
i kind of have a problem with alice siding with the monster realm in the first place. i know the situation is beyond dire with the paradox world on a timer to arrmagedon, but i really don't think alice would pick the "kill everyone and send their souls to an alternate world where alpheese won" i know alpheese is her direct ancestor and she could be somewhat blinded by that familial bond, but alice should be smart enough to know that the succ trio are shady as hell and that the "harvest everyones soul and send it to monster realm" plan is too good to be true. she should know better than anybody that a realm dictated by the original alpheese and ancestors would not be good for humanity or even monsters.

>>563226826
yeah and I reserve the right to call you deeply retarded for getting this deep of a stick up your ass about Alice NTR of all things. Getting mad about the Shikis I can at least understand because they're deeply unpleasant people but this is such of an insane nothingburger

>>563226506
>>I mean this sincerely the more you keep going on this the more out of touch with reality you're starting to sound.
Same to you man, I won't bother to respond to your other shit since you don't even want to argue in good faith. Hope you get shafted by some bored richfag just so you can prove how people defend their way of life

>>563226910
Tbf how are you even going to say no to White Rabbit leading both you and your mother into that bullshit of a mess? It's not about Alice 1 or little succubi but a literal law of the world itself saying "Go kill everyone it's the right thing."

>>563226910
now that i think about it i think my problem is less with alice ultimately deciding to go alpheese over illias and more that after wards she and the party go along with whatever alt tamano and the succ sisters say without having a plan of her own that i know of to get one over on them. as things are going now i think theres a pretty big chance the party will be used and discarded once they fill whatever goal alpheese has for them. these fuckers are not trustworthy

>>563227196
i was under the impression white rabbit only led alice and her mom to meeting alt alpheese, and the whole "kill everyone soul transfer plan" was cooked up by alpheese and given the cooperation of alice the 15. not that rabbit came up with the plan herself

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>>563208365
Damn, I didn't mean to start a debate over kekqueaning. Was just wondering why tamamo specifically is almost always the bvll

>>563227595
she sets up the scenario in the VN that the images are referencing. She's also just a generally very popular character. Though I think that's Waned a bit these days because she's not as cool in the VN

>>563226910
She trusts her mother anon.
Mommy Alice turned herself into that centuries' greatest villain to get the plan moving on overdrive, and was willing to sacrifice herself for it too.
The thing about MW's plan that has something over the AW one, is that Alice was going to be the ruler of the new world if the plan went without a glitch, while AW was going to have Sub-Ilias if their plan went super well. You can say that Alice has no standing, but she has the backing of Fat Alice, Saja, both Tamamos, and I believe Minagi. Kanade wouldn't really care as long as her slimes were taken care of, while the other two troublemakers wouldn't dare disobey the ruler that has so many powerful beings on her side(their mother included).

>>563227595
>Was just wondering why tamamo specifically is almost always the bvll
Didn't foxes mythologically do that

>>563227535
White rabbit says she sees the future. Plus if she didn't approve of it she wouldn't had been the one to teleport the party to Alipheese and potentially would had murdered the Succ sisters herself like she attempted with Neris.

>>563227741
Wouldn't Alice as a ruler immediately devolve into just normal monster world antics? Fat Alice would likely go straight back into isolation and saja generally fails to get the other ancestors to listen to her already

>>563227732
Is hiruko the new fan fav
>>563227775
They liked doing fucked up things in general

I finally made it to the world saving party at the end
How is that bride festival gonna even go when nobody is strong enough to stand up to Sonya, Alice and Hild who have god like power now?

>>563228146
the golden route will buff everyone with ultra mega hyper chaos powers, trust

>>563228242
Yeah but, shouldn't the prize itself get a say in this?

>>563228242
>buffs them as well
Well all that changes is now the continent they choose to fight on will be destroyed.

>>563228327
you say it like strong women attempting to dominate him isn't his fetish

>>563227040
Well, I think you're a gigantic retard for being so offended that someone doesn't like NTR and cuckoldry. It's pretty normal not to like either of those things.
>>563227186
I haven't been disingenuous at all, you keep trying to sidestep things with what-about-xisms and refuse to contend with the point in good faith. Pulling a no you as if people in poverty don't try to hold onto what they have or people don't try to argue on the internet over stupid shit to gatekeep something they like (re: literally what we have been doing) just falls flat and only really proves my point.
>Hope you get shafted by some bored richfag
Anon, take a break, that just makes it sound like you're actually bothered. You shouldn't wish for someone to fall to poverty or something over an argument as petty as fetishes. That's just really dumb.

>>563227741
I don't trust alpheese to not be as disastrous as a ruler as illias was in the vn. the ancestors will all also make cassandra look downright pleasant on her treatment of humans

>>563228146
My Wife will defeat them, because she already has.

>>563228820
I don't think i've ever seen someone say that cuckqueaning is on the same level as "normal" ntr. By strict definition it is, sure, but it's never treated as remotely the same thing and is mainly treated like a joke (which it is with the tamamo stuff) The fact that trtr could get away with all these girls stealing away luka from alice but didn't even think of having a guy steal alice away from luka stands as a pretty obvious testament that they're not seen as remotely the same thing.

>>563228925
Fattie was going to hand her rulership to Alice anon, that was the endgame of their plan. She is a terrible ruler because she doesn't rule at all, not because she is a tyrant.
Also, come on. Kanade, MW Tamamo, Minagi, and Saja(by default really, because she doesn't do anything) have not been shown to be cruel to the humans under their rule.

>>563229223
why do you call her fat alice

>>563229535
in her sealed sprite, the snake part of her is noticeably fatter than normal

>>563229223
also i do not trust centuries old monster girls to not be evil and not see humans as little more than semen dispensers.

>>563229535
Some snake autist thinks she looks big for a snake and considers her strongman build as fat and it caught on as a meme around here.

>>563229535
It's a way of differentiating the Alices, and her girth is amazing enough for the label.
Also, the game makes it clear she is a fattie. Being called a Tsuchinoko Girl, means she is a fat snake in everyone's eyes.

I just want a story/game about nero and neris. preferably before they became overpowered dimension hoppers

>>563229535
>>563229768
This. Being a fat lazy neet was the obvious one.

>>563229735
Retarf

>>563230480
>that fat
lmao maybe by Japan standards. That's basically perfect dad bod. Retard

>>563229163
the original Alice does not have Luka get stolen from her and the VN is a love story between the two. In paradox because the game's supposed to be far more open-choiced and Luka's turned into a self-insert, you are more encouraged to choose your own girl for him, which just naturally pushed Alice to the side as just the original option, which is what they make jokes about in the game with her constantly complaining about how she should win because she won in the original timeline. Most of the ntr/"cuckqueening" is commissions or memes.
>It's not the same thing
It is the same thing, there's just not going to be the opposite equivalent in the game itself when doing that would go against the marketing of what the game's supposed to be in the first place. I'm pretty sure that's the entire joke behind Luka asking Reaper to kill and erase all his male allies from existence, since japan becomes extremely rabid about this kind of thing.

>>563229535
She's Fat and her name is Alice.
>>563230696
One of the Part Two Mooks has sex with Hakunen in the time loop.

>>563230616
>perfect dad bod. Retard
Someone's mad about the fact that it's simply her easiest identifiable trait to distinguish her with.

>>563230696
I mean if we're going to ignore the ending sequence of the VN of which most of these scenarios are directly based off of, sure, we can do that. I am entirely willing to accept that YOU think cuckqueaning is just as bad as any other kind of NTR and I fully accept your opinion on that and even agree somewhat in some scenarios, but that's not at all a common standpoint and it's seen as infinitely safer to partake and joke about than actual NTR.

does lolilias still befriend a slime girl and dog girl on her route? this is very important

>>563231481
No, Alice befriends a bunny slime and kitsune.

>>563231206
The ending sequence caught a lot of flack back in the day and even now I still see a lot of people bothered by that "test" Tamamo put him through. I'm not ignoring that victory lap turned 'press x to retry' fest, it was just very unfitting and came off like one last attempt to squeeze in a few more scenes.
But sure I will agree to disagree since you've shown to be amicable about it. From my personal experience I have simply seen that as a common viewpoint from others, is all.
>>563230905
oof

>>563230616
Nta but sounds like you're a fatass

>>563231532
its fucking over

>>563202576
>>563202930
It'd be fun to see outside the collab yeah

I just wanna point out that all of Luka's children love him while only 1 of them seems to get along with their mother

>>563233551
Hild and Prom...

>>563233551
>while only 1 of them seems to get along with their mother
meanwhile fatlice
>all of her kids love her

>>563233551
neris is just going through a rebellious phase. probably

>>563233551
There's several that get along with their mom, I think even the bub did

>>563233551
Most of Luka's kids want to rape him and consider their moms a rival...

>>563235009
thats pretty sad

>>563235124
The reason they try that with Paradox Luka is because the Luka of their timeline don't love them.
Only Chaos is his true daughter, the others are unwanted cringe bastards.

>>563235323
who? I haven't beaten the game yet.

>>563235389
Warhammer 40k

>>563235323
>Luka of their timeline don't love them.
I think you might be biased. i have a hard time believing VN luka wouldn't be very involved in raising his kids considering what happened with his parents

>>563236787
Luka and Alice choose to protect their new order over raising his own kids. The coexistence between man, monster, and angel took priority over showing love to the two bastards, so they handed them over to their friends.
Nero and Neris know this, they tell it to you. But being good little kids, they accepted that they are second to the world in the eyes of their parents.
TrTr is pretty ballsy making VN Luka and Alice terrible parents.

>>563240092
>TrTr is pretty ballsy making VN Luka and Alice terrible parents.
Fatlice and Lucifina genes

>>563236787
>>563240092
To be clear since that anon's kinda spoiling the endgame conversation over it anyway, Luka WANTED to be with them, it wasn't actually his choice.
When the rest of the kingdoms found out he was descended from the remina royal family he was essentially forced into the role of being it's new king and was required to oversee it's reconstruction and thus partake in all the bureaucratic tasks that entails. Which took a long, long time. He wanted to be with his children but circumstances pretty much prevented him from being able to. So they handed them off to Granberia and Tamamo.
One of them did a good job.
The other was Granberia, who unsurprisingly is a very bad babysitter.
Luka in the current time has managed to keep in contact with them at least and he was able to see that during his periods where he was free, but Alice continuously tried to monopolize his attention and prevent him from interacting with his kids when they got to meet since she also missed him a lot.

>>563240092
Alice, at the age of 35-40, dumped the ML title on her daughter, and by extension her son too, and decided to frolic around the world with Luka, hogging him all to herself.
Neris was told to literally go eat shit, LMAO.

>>563240665
>granberia
why not just have tamamo raise them both?

>>563240682
I don't think they did that yet, I think they just said that's what would happen when they do take the throne

>>563240869
Neris wanted to train to be a cool swordswoman. Tamamo can't really teach her that, but Granberia turned out to be a Piccolo-tier instructor.

>>563240665
>The other was Granberia, who unsurprisingly is a very bad babysitter.

I mean who else had the time and enthusiasm to raise her. Erubetie?

>but Alice continuously tried to monopolize his attention and prevent him from interacting with his kids when they got to meet since she also missed him a lot.

...Yeah I can't blame Neris so much now

why is luka even being pushed into an administrative role anyways. You'd think his role would be purely ceremonial and he'd go around boosting people's morale but making him actually do paperwork when he has no formal training in statesmanship sounds extremely dumb

>>563240914
Neris' talk with Alice shows that she is officially the 17th ML in the OG timeline. Neris being 20+ years old, and admitting she has a lot of experience being the ML, probably had her taking the title when she hit adulthood, probably at 17-18.

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>>563240665
>luka gets forced to do tedious legislation work and never had any time to spend with his wife and kids
this just makes me sad. let the man have his happy ending dammit, a he saved the world he should get to settle down and spend his time with his loved ones

>>563241204
I'm aware of her having a lot of training and preperation for it and being #17 since she's just the daughter of 16, I just didn't remember if she had been officially put in charge, because I remembered the conversations saying that when that time came Nero and Neris planned to split the work and he'd help her out
>>563241094
She did not cope in the healthiest way but Neris's dislike of her mother is pretty justified desu

>>563241138
>married the monster lord
>wants to push his monster loving agenda to the world
He kinda brought it on himself

>>563241484
Strange that he is taking so much weight on his shoulders when the other royal families back him completely, and should be helping with the burden.
I mean, the Gold King is like #2 when it comes to coexistence enthusiasm only next to Luka, and the others shouldn't be that far behind.

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>>563241138
Because Remina meant a lot to people and they wanted him to restart the royal lineage and rebuild the city; it's effectively for the sake of enforcing the image of coexistence and peace finally having come by recreating the former land where it once thrived before Ilias burned it down. And since they were requiring him to become a King they had to make sure he knew how to be one.
It's never elaborated on how he feels about this. It's implied he would've preferred otherwise but felt obligated to do it for the sake of everyone else.
The guy definitely looks like he's pretty tired at least.
>>563241290
If the MMTD Collaborations are canon (they might or might not be but they did explain some stuff in them) then VN!Luka and VN!Alice periodically sneak out to meet up and take vacation trips to Gespenst Island so that they can just be together and relax.
The 4HK (and it's implied the kingdoms) don't appreciate this, and the two doing it too much is what kicked off the third one since Ilias tries to use it as an excuse to claim that Alice is making him too complacent and she needs to separate them.
>>563242089
IIRC they were helping out, it's just that rebuilding the city really did take that long of a time.

>>563242190
my fuarking KING

Luka got the Naruto ending instead of the Ichigo ending

>>563243842
Should had waited for One Piece to end to give him the Luffy ending

>>563244094
trtr started the VN long after Oda started One Piece and will end Paradox long before he ends One Piece.
It's crazy.

>>563243842
He wanted the same thing and got what he deserved. Trying to force people together will never work and now he's stuck trying to keep it together under endless paper work

>>563245045
he probably knows he's gone too long to make an ending that'll be satisfying desu

>>563245045
bold of you to assume that, as of right now paradox is not complete we still have luka and chaos adventures to look forward to, in fact TrTr has gone the square enix route, Kingdom Hearts IV will not officially begin production until Final Fantasy 7R is complete, Final Fantasy 7R part 3 still hasn't even begun production because Square Enix has been too busy chasing failed Gacha projects over and over and over and over trying to make sharholders and upper management happy, they want that genshin/ZZZ/Star Rail money yet keep failing every time despite trying for final fantasy and kingdom hearts completely missing that they're fighting against anime tiddy sex appeal using lore heavy franchises

>>563245395
I think he might as well just do it, people already pissed Imu looks like a Boruto villain and these past 10 years of shitty shonen endings, Attack on Titan, Demon Slayer, Assassination Classroom, My Hero Academia, Chainsaw Man, Jujusui Kaisen and that other manga that was basicall y a rage quit ending i forget what it was called but the characters had weird star eyes and it had an incest theme or meme about it

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Shonen? I've hardly known'em!

>>563245413
I mean depending on how he handles it those are just postgame addons. Using KH3 as an example it's like saying it needed the DLC to really be a complete (ignore that it's sequel bait it's just the point that it's an addon).

>>563245353
It worked out okay in Paradox. The progress to coexistence didn't need a pushy Hero, or a suicidal ML, just the authority of the world to go.

>>563246267
I'd like a postgame add on to un-brainrot the mermaids please

>>563252476
why is one of them trying to come in butt first?

>>563252519
She's trying to butt her way in

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>>563252714
Some of you guy are pretty alright

>>563257889
kind of depressing to think about how useless a harpy wife would be with housework when she has no hands

>>563260312
can monster girls still kill each other after Luka takes control or how will they deal with population booms of certain species

I've notice I only ever seem to see discussions of the Six Ancestors but almost never any for the Seven Archangels. Is there any reason for this?

>>563261187
Comedically evil characters are more interesting, it's why Black Alice is more popular than 9/10th of the cast even before her alt redemption.
Outside Gabriella the Archangels don't really have much going on, and suffer from being endgame characters preventing attachment that old characters get.

>>563261187
>Is there any reason for this?
What would you even discuss about them, most are cool and not evil

>>563130630
Hey, tourist here. Just had an issue with your OP. Nothing big. Just saying this is supposed to be monster girls but the lady obviously looks like a random cartoonized bride with green eyes. Just my two cents haha. Anyway bye.

>>563261187
Everyone here is too busy seething at kanon/hiruko/the lilith sisters to discuss anyone else

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>>563261187
Flawed and evil characters are more fun to discuss and leave a strong impression, it's why Hiruko is beloved despite being an abomination that should not exist. That doesn't mean the archangels are bad in fact for the most part I found them endearing.

>>563262235
No they're bad! Especially Sandalphone! She deserves spankings!

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>>563262235
>it's why Hiruko is beloved despite being an abomination that should not exist

>>563262335
anon no, you'll get pissed on

>>563262342
>digests random kids alive
>pwease don't dislike me
Alice I is such a bad fucking mom

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>>563261187
Art is less good due to xelvy, they're all also just well natured enough to be overlooked.
Even the six ancestors, let's be honest, MOST of any mentions go to Hiruko or Kanon, and not Minagi, Saja or Kanademabufudyne.
Tamamo is excluded due to seniority in the franchise as a whole, discussion of Tamamo will be the VN one and not the SA one most of the time.

At the least though, the Archangels actually ARE worth being called precious comrades.
Except Gabriella.

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>>563262545
Cmon anon, she's very sad about it...

>>563262943
I don't blame Hiruko, she has a reason to be batshit
But Kanon is just a bitch for no good reason

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>>563263023
I think Kanon is supposed to be a peer pressure scenario. She wouldn't be so bad if she wasn't trying to be popular with terrible plants.

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>>563262598
>>563262235
Nah most archangels are still scum, but they're not even worth discussing how boring / shitty they are, just look at Roper Girl or other setouchis for another example.

If archangels are bad, then explain why Mariel has cute feet.

>>563263078
>She wouldn't be so bad if she wasn't trying to be popular with terrible plants.

Plants are supposed to be her descendants. If plants are cruel bitches it's because she herself cultivated heh that behavior among them.

Didn't know Mariel is one of seven archangels

>>563264234
There are way more than seven archangels. Mariel has it as her rank!

>The most vile, treacherous and evil members of Ancestors and Archangels are both plants
Does trtr hold some grudge towards mother nature or what?

>>563264353
he's trying to say that the insects in plansect did nothing wrong

>>563264343
No there's only seven AW archangels, that's a filthy imposter

>>563263078
To put it simply she's one of those popular girls that hang around a bad crowd that reinforces her bad behaviour, she doesn't see why she is bad because she surrounded herself with people that approve of it and cheer it on and anyone that could say otherwise was ignored or pushed away, the fact that everything suddenly changes and everyone starts hating her despite doing what she always does comes as a big shock. Personally I find it interesting that she's both highly culpable for her wrongdoing yet has high prospects of rehabilitation.

>>563262235
There's a reason why an author having her Mary Sue screw up or taking other actions to make her flawed is rarely enough to save the character; being unflawed is more of a symptom of the disease than the disease itself. Most of the popular characters are pretty much pure good guys outside of sex scenes, which basically exist in their own little pocket universe and completely break the story if you consider them canon. Tamamo might even be a great example of an unflawed character, but we like her because she's cute, wise, and helpful.

Hiruko is the most popular of the ancestors because she's the only one with a character arc and a solid direction. It's obvious that trtr realized that he was making a group that was impossible to cheer for and might even retroactively ruin Tamamo, and what we got was a hasty attempt to cobble together new characters within a framework that wasn't made for them, except for Hiruko.

>>563267003
Another thing I do appreciate about Hiruko is that she's a rare Shiki design that isn't just NAKED WOMAN (shikimamo doesn't count, that's him riding off of a preexisting character design) and actually put some thought into her outfit. Christmas memes aside, her outfit makes her look kinda high-class and (I know this one is due to game limitations but bear with me) it's unusual for her to bother with giving it to her every clone, it feels like the kind of thing she'd ignore/overlook.

>>563267003
If Tamamo was so cute, wise, and helpful, then how did she get ball'd against her will?

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>>563263745
>If plants are cruel bitches it's because she herself cultivated heh that behavior among them.

>>563270000
>he used his quads for this
That's it buddy. We're sending our greatest human girls to punish your crime

>>563264893
This is murderwhore erasure

>>563270275
I thought the angel in charge of that was Eden?

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>>563270348
I want to put Eden in charge of my ejaculations.

>>563272762
Ililas made her prototype mass produced angel have the same powers as a succubus. Very suspicious.

>>563273232
Wonderful Ilias, in her great wisdom, agreed with FatLice on one thing. Penis is very useful! (For consumption.)

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>>563148784
More like Alicesoft. Yeah we're gonna have our boi Rance singlehandedly reversing the monster/human power dynamic in the MGQ.

>>563273697
>femdom series
>"let's make it maledom"
Thanks, but no.

>>563273697
That dude got soft-dryfished by a girl who doesn't even come close to the power level of some of the random encounters in MGQ so haha nope he'd be succ food

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>>563148784
>alice game collab
The collab would have only lasted for like thirty minutes at most, if they let Alice in.

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>>563273997
>>563274295
Well, yeah, you make compelling arguments. Still, what I wouldn't do if characters like Omachi related were added to MGQP3

>>563273697
>>563273997
I'd play a game where you enter a MGQ-style world and can forcibly capture monster girls who are trying to rape you and then throw them in your base as sex slaves/romance partners.

In Re:BF (where the blond swordsman, dancer nympho, and three succubus sisters are from), you capture them like pokemon, but the monster girls are honestly kinda shit compared to the human girls and are also unimportant for the most part.

>>563274420
One of the most squandered characters ever.

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>>563274295
Human girls scary...
Human pussy scary...

>>563275420
>bad rape from humans
Much worse than good rape from angels

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>>563277545
You're gonna get a lot of replies crying about slop but based, keep doing what you're doing (assuming it's not a virus designed to mine bitcoin)

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>>563262049
We have beanpad for that now

>>563262049
heartwarming
>>563278071
soulless

>>563278228
>he wants his wife to struggle
You don't even love her