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Remember that you can dislike stuff without making it part of your personality. Report and ignore shitposters that only spam and argue in bad faith.
/ffg/ spam filter: https://pastebin.com/SJ1sb9r0
>General Info on Final Fantasy
https://finalfantasy.fandom.com
>What version should I play?
http://pastebin.com/nDC7j5bn
>Final Fantasy Pixel Remaster Trailer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdLsIQEGj-E
>Final Fantasy Tactics: The Ivalice Chronicles
https://youtu.be/JRIElEOQa4c
>Final Fantasy XVI Info
https://na.finalfantasyxvi.com
>Launch Trailer "Salvation"
https://youtu.be/_CrV3hkJuvs
>DLC
https://youtu.be/RecsFD6SWfc
https://youtu.be/aveDvd66clk
>PC Trailer
https://youtu.be/LBqpFlA_4Is
>Final Fantasy VII Rebirth
https://youtu.be/WgdkN2tCAFw
https://youtu.be/Q56cRDseTGQ
>Dissidia Duellum Final Fantasy
https://youtu.be/dgTNtB9myss
https://youtu.be/L-UITSfBZpc
>Final Fantasy VII Ever Crisis
>>>/vmg/1916155
>Dissidia Final Fantasy Opera Omnia
https://www.youtube.com/@DFFOperaOmnia
>Final Fantasy Brave Exvius: War of the Visions
https://pastebin.com/1yvynbW8
>Final Fantasy XI
http://www.playonline.com/ff11us/index.shtml
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As long as no one makes any negative or neutral remarks about Nomura, Kitase, Hamaguchi, Toriyama, Matsuno, Kingdom Hearts, Final Fantasy XIII, Lightning, Remake, Tactics, E33, Duellum, Kastaclsym, or Sebbywebz we will be fine.
As long as no one makes any positive or neutral remarks about XIV, XVI, Yoshida, CS3, Spirits Within, or Sakaguchi we will be fine.
Take care to not agree with anyone's /ffg/ approved positive or negative opinions too much. Agreeing with someone can come off as disingenuous, but only when certain posts or certain ideas are agreed with, not others. Also remember that if you disobey any of the rules, this automatically puts you into the opposing category of posters. There are no exceptions. These are the rules.
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I should've played 4 Remake. Eh, I'll probably do it one day.
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Terra a cute
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How long will what take?
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One true love and kissu hug! Canon and cute!
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>>563196345
Gacha addicts gonna gacha. Not that it's a bad thing though. It's better that people genuinely post about Final Fantasy than endless schizophrenia and shitposting. As long as they aren't using Duellum to shitpost and are actually talking about the game, I say there should be more of it, and I have no interest in it myself.
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>>563197437
I'd imagine it probably gets old and ruins gaming eventually. You probably get to a point where you're no longer interested in vidya when you're "off the clock" and that you dread playing vidya most of the time when you are "on the clock".
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Is the new Dissidia F2P?
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>>563199984
I think V is overrated in the gameplay department and I love the story/characters in it. I love the story/characters in X. so.....yeah.
Dunno how you hated X, that was peak kino but I played with the jp dub. Tidus voice cracking a little facing jecht killed me. V also had parts where Galuf stayed behind to mourn his friend got me as well.
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Rinoa I'm still mixed on, I sorta get her character and I think the romance with Squall itself is pretty cute. But maybe it's the translation.... but Rinoa is fucking god damn retarded it hurts. I get she's suppose to be the maniac pixie girl but I swear everything she does is less of a teenager more of a freaking 12yo kid.
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>>563200973
It does have a yearly playthrough by "fans" but I can't believe these same fans shit on the story/characters/music and just ooooo jiggly keys job system. It's such a weird entry popularity for me. It's a fucking masterpiece to me but people love it for the wrong reasons.
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>>563201343
It's fine, I think it's both too restrictive to really have some oomph but also too loose where you can get broken pretty easily no matter what you do and none of the content except the gba super bosses really call you out on it.
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>>563200303
Yesn't. It's a gacha, a PvP one at that, so there's going to be a pretty large rift between F2P and paying players, but right now it isn't too bad to climb up into Omega (highest-ranked tier) by being F2P. Each ranked tier—Bronze, Silver, Diamond, and Omega—has a level cap on abilities, so it's pretty unlikely that you're going to be getting completely mogged until you hit Omega. Given that the game is still new, very few players are going to be anywhere near the level cap for their respective ranks. Of course, the longer the game goes on, the larger the rift is going to grow.
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Aerisu!
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>>563201184
We love the Quintessential Final Fantasy V here.
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Hmm... a White Battlemage
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>>563212112
*rape
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Yes
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Krile is only 14.
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>>563168725
Just imagine how much people are going to bitch once the VRs give you dozens of options; and bitch even more when they have to neurally input them as much so as if they were simply doing it in a holodeck.
>Kakashi sees girl
>Kakashi uses "Flirt"
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>>563221924
>The wonderful history of Ninjas, and the magics of the Shinobi; going back.... all the way to Final Fantasy I......
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eip7Ewadwk8
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You can do these arena challenges right away in Rebirth. It just takes a lifetime to kill level 40 bosses. Got like 5 levels for doing it. The counter synergy skills are extremely powerful.
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My wife Eiko is exceptionally cute!
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R E T A R D
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>>563212786
>That point in FFXIII-2 where Serah is trapped in a forever dream..... that is literally the happy ending everyone wanted to see at the of FXIII.
I'm not gonna lie anons; I was really tempted to say yes to that "dream" of a happy ending on the beachshore; and then just turn off my Xbox.
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>>563227489
Like... at all
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>this is supposed to be a ffxiv villain
HAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>563231709
>Still better than XIII.
Not even close. Nepshit is the bottom of the barrel. Truly one of the worst video game franchises of all time. They're even cheaper and lazier than Falcom games. The reason they stopped shitting out so many games is the storage device containing all the assets died due to overuse.
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>>563231927
https://x.com/i/status/2042695128318374397
transform this into a webm
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I just got to Ch. 8 in Rebirth and just when I thought this game couldn't be any more endearing, it throws Cait Sith and more minigames at me. Man, this game has been awesome. 44 hours in and loving every minute of it.
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>>563233921
I got these games in a bundle for like $5 years ago. You're not going to find lower quality JRPGs.
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>>563234514
We prefer serious grimdark fantasy here.
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>>563234720
I like both games. Rebirth is a nice light to have in my life right now, it's great to play a game that doesn't take itself so serious.
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Blonde Tifa
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I'm making a list of every main final fantasy and playable spin off i need to play and while interacting with the community... i'm surprised 99% of it just played 1 game or 2, or just 14, or just watched a FUCKING PLAYTHROUGH of FF7 remake in 2020 and conisder themsleves fans and plague the community
How does this even happen?
This franchise has existed for 40 fucking years. Why its fandom doesn't even play their games?
Anyways this is my list so far:
Final Fantasy I
Final Fantasy II
Final Fantasy III
Final Fantasy IV - After Years
Final Fantasy V
Final Fantasy VI
Final Fantasy VII - Crisis Core Reunion - Dirge of Cerberus
Final Fantasy VIII
Final Fantasy IX
Final Fantasy X - X-2
Final Fantasy XI
Final Fantasy XII - Revenant Wings
Final Fantasy XIII - Final Fantasy XIII-2 - Lightning Returns: Final Fantasy XIII - Type-0
Final Fantasy XIV
Final Fantasy XV
Final Fantasy XVI
Strangers of Paradise: Final Fantasy Origins
Final Fantasy Tactics
Final Fantasy Dimensions
Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles
Final Fantasy Explorers
Final Fantasy Dissidia 012
Final Fantasy Dissidia NT
World of Final Fantasy
Final Fantasy Vagrant Story
Final Fantasy The 4 Heroes of Light
Final Fantasy Bravely Default
Kingdom Heats I
Kingdom Hearts II
Kingdom Hearts III
Which am i missing? I won't play any gacha phone shit, i'm checking that "rythm" game but the art creeps me out and doesn't seem to have a story, it's just pressing keys to listen to music...
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>>563238958
You're missing and Chocobo Mystery Dungeon 1 &2, and Chocobo Racing.
Kingdom Heart isn't really a FF spinoff, it's its own thing.
Also it's just Vagrant Story, not Final Fantasy Vagrant Story.
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>You're missing and Chocobo Mystery Dungeon 1 &2, and Chocobo Racing.
Aren't those just race games with no story?
>Kingdom Heart isn't really a FF spinoff, it's its own thing.
It has Final Fantasy characters in it and Final Fantasy style, so it's final fantasy.
Or at least i'd rather play it along with FF games rather than play it while watching Disney movies.
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>>563238958
>This franchise has existed for 40 fucking years. Why its fandom doesn't even play their games?
you cannot reasonably expect people to play retro games, especially anything before the PS1 era. Also good luck getting through all those games, it's going to take you a year if that's all you're doing.
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The first thing that happens to Cloud and co without Barret is getting caught by a bunch of loser bandits. These bandits are stronger than Sephiroth.
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>>563239717
>you cannot reasonably expect people to play retro games
All first 6 games had a remaster and re release like 4 years ago, and 3 and 4 have a 3D remake.
Let alone 8-9-10, etc all have remasters and look perfectly good.
And you're saying it like FF fans only play modern ones, but they won't touch 13, 15 or 16 either.
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>>563238958
>Final Fantasy XII - Revenant Wings
>not Zodiac Age
Why?
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>Aren't those just race games with no story?
Heeeeh, no. They have a story, even if it's minimal effort. Usually Mog is up to no good and Chocobo must help her.
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>And you're saying it like FF fans only play modern ones, but they won't touch 13, 15 or 16 either.
stop caring about what other people do. I see the same conversations happen in the RE community, just play what you like and ignore the normies. you post on 4chan anyways, so you shouldn't even be interacting with those people.
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>>563238958
It's like that in every fandom. I played the classic games one by one in a different franchise and posted about it in their general and people just got upset while spamming coomer images and infighting about some retarded shit.
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>>563240349
Good lord I didn't know there was that many games for RE.
>>563240208
And some New Game+ and New Game- options and some cheats.
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>>563240349
>stop caring about what other people do
Yeahhh except that while trying to decide if i should play 3D remake or pixel remater of 3 i went through every thread about it in reddit and 99% of the people giving their opinions or ranting about one or the other haven't played either or any final fantasy game but X.
So it's always hard to get info.
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>>563240813
I already decided to use mods like to make Terra blonde when i play VI and using mod to have the warrior of light from dissidia sprite in FF1.
Sadly there's no good mod for FF V so i'm gonna have to make one myself giving Bartz his slut dissidia faggy outfit.
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>>563240972
There's good romhacks for the SNES and GBA versions of FF5. For instance,
https://www.romhacking.net/hacks/8743/
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>>563238958
There's:
Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles
FF Crystal Chronicles Ring of Fates
FF Crystal Chronicles Echoes of Time
FF Crystal Chronicles: My Life as a King
FF Crystal Chronicles: My Life as a Darklord
FF Crystal Chronicles The Crystal Bearers
Harvestella
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Also Lost Odyssey and The Last Story
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>>563241327
Both better than FFXVI, for sure.
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>>563237780
Exactly. Same director, but what a difference in games.
TLR positioned itself as a continuation of the SaGa series tradition. Kawazu, as executive producer and scenario writer, is the series' creator. Takai, as director, is the series veteran. XVI took a negative view on tradition, with the tagline "The legacy of the crystals have shaped our history for long enough." The negative influence of Yoshi-P is clearly visible. Bad vides.
Next, of course, TLR is an RPG, a normal Japanese RPG, and simply a fun game, unlike some. Cities, towns, dungeons and gorge fields with VALUABLE loot, progression in which your decisions and commands to combat bros determine their gradual growth, deep customization, collecting truly valuable resources, a well-balanced economy, real party you can customise. It's a shame that without mods you can't customize all your characters manually, but even so, TLR offers far more customization options and variations than some.
Furthermore, TLR is a difficult game. I remember the Xbox 360 bros absolutely cried over the difficulty, so much so that the developers decided to tone it down a bit for the PC release. That said, even on PC the game offers a challenge, and the Hard mode, unlocked after the first playthrough, is the famous Great Filter. One of the most challenging SE games. XVI? Braindead button masher.
In terms of visual design, TLR is naturally more interesting. The grandiose Remnants of various kinds are a much more mesmerizing and unique solution than crystals. You enter Athlum and there's this huge flippin sword stuck in the ground, towering over you. Fucking cool! The architecture in TLR is also more varied and interesting, better than the dreary European shacks and gray, dirty castles of XVI.
Et cetera.
And so on.
And so forth.
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Why do some FF games such autistic rage?
Like I'd say the ones that trigger people are
>FFX
>FFX-2
>FFXII
>FFXIII and its other two games
>FFXV
>FFXVI
Like how the fuck do people say any of these are the worst games they've ever played? that's such an exaggeration. actual turn off whenever someone says they think these games are the worse. I can understand not liking it but having this weird autistic i'm better than you for hating these games is so stupid.7R and XIV deserves the hate desu. that's why im not listing it.
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> FF 7 Remake is announced
> I tell people it's shit and that it's a shitty scam to sell the game in multiple parts released after making you wait several years and costing 70 USD each
>> I am told to shut the fuck up by the shill army and that "T-the remake might not be the full game but it's 20 hours long and that's a lot"
> Years pass
> Now everyone turned against the remakes and Rebirth flopped because nobody wants to wait 20 years to see a shitty remake's ending and Final Fantasy hasn't been relevant in 6 years
Yeah i'm thinking i won and everyone owes me an apology.
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>>563241327
>the mother's game
>better than FFXVI
In all fairness, it's impossible by definition to top the Best Game Ever, dedicated to our mom, and the Best Trilogy Ever Created, dedicated to our mom.
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>>FFX-2
I hate it becuase i hate women and they are obnoxious and it's a tranny game honestly. I can just imagine some fat ugly incel with a full soiboy face cheering and celebrating as he runs around as a girl part of a girl only party and masturbates.
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I just think the biggest crime in XIII is getting the pairings all wrong. As much as Toriyama is based sometimes (Bahamut Lagoon / Racing Lagoon) XIII official pairings were DOG SHIT. Surprise lesbian was terrible too.
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>the hotelmen
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Why does japan hate masculinity so much? I don't get it. Do japanese men come tired from work thinking "Oh yes i can finally do some escapism" and instead of wanting to be some muscular manly badass warrior they wanna be some femboy or extremely feminine looking skinny man swinging a sword around?
Japan has to be the only country in the world in which its men want to be women. What's worse is actual japanese men are so deformed and ugly and always boring tiny brown eyes and black hair but in fiction they make themselves some tall slender woman looking man with white hair and huge eyes.
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>>563242610
FFXVI is a badass game if you like 30 hours of meaningless fetch quests as side content and basic gameplay. For the record, I like XVI, but that game is straight up miserable for the final 35% of it. It's very easy to see why that game is divisive.
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>check /ffg/
>Lightning wins
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>>563238958
>This franchise has existed for 40 fucking years. Why its fandom doesn't even play their games?
I don't know but it's even a meme outside of here.
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Cloud tells Tifa in Costa Del Sol that he won't drink any alcohol until they've rebuilt Seventh Heaven. 1 day later:
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>>563243742
Complaining about content that isn't strictly necessary is only verboten for one game. It's allowed to be a particularly egregious pain point for certain other games.
Why? Pleas refer to the official /ffg/ rules: >>563193134
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>>563244158
Sad but true
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>>563244080
I don't know, but there are a lot of them.
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>>563245486
My veredict is 41%
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Where are you going, l'Éclair? Let me know,
and teach me now, before your departure,
what I should do, so my eyes might hide
the raw regret of a sad heart in torment.
Yet I know how, no need to inform me.
You’ll take it with you; I give it to you.
Take it, to render you free from sorrow,
that should be far from you, in that place;
and since lacking a heart one cannot live,
leave yours with me, and so say farewell.
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Où allez-vous, l'Éclair? que je le sache,
Et m'enseignez avant que de partir
Comme ferai, afin que mon oeil cache
Le dur regret du coeur triste et martyr.
Je sais comment; point ne faut m'avertir
Vous le prendrez, ce coeur, je le vous livre;
L'emporterez pour le rendre délivre
Du deuil qu'aurait loin de vous en ce lieu;
Et pour autant qu'on ne peut sans coeur vivre
Me laisserez le vôtre, et puis adieu.
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I'm emulating Chrono Trigger (I know it's not FF but not sure where else to post about it)
It's not doing anything for me. I just finished up 2300 AD, and like the only thing I've enjoyed so far is the soundtrack. What do people love about this game so much?
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>>563245754
I don't do such things. Lightning is the Purest Goddess and the Wondrous Muse; she inspires great achievements, inspires one to become better, not to rot in a permanent cycle of degeneracy that is gooning. I just decided to check this general after months I see nothing has changed for the better. No problem at all, the Gentle Goddess – Claire – will smooth over this dismal spectacle with her beauty beyond compare.
https://youtu.be/Z6x2kXzej0s
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It's kinda crazy how basically nothing can happen here for hours and then there will be hundreds of extremely low quality ragebait shitposts for a few hours and then near silence again. What even compels these people?
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>>563245585
>veredict
OUCH
>>563245835
Nikita, the prequel of sort to the Professional. Leon appears near the end to clean up the mess.
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>>563246412
What latent force feeds these flames?
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>>563246813
For me its:
XIII "newfag"
Fatherless spammer
Guy who melts down about Jimbo and imagines posts that don't exist and gets mad about them
I'm gonna be honest, I don't even think "XVI chatbot aka Yoshi-P cultist" actually exists. Most of the time people screech about that, no one is even talking about XIV or XVI.
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>>563247036
>We don't fantasize about men jerking off to trannies here.
We have someone who fantasizes about men jerking off to trannies and we also have someone who fantasizes about men shoving phallic objects into their assholes. These are both different, often opposing people, btw.
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>>563247491
Why didn't you get mad about this post that I was replying to? >>563246813
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>She acts like a man
Mother wins.
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>>563247625
I really don't think it does exist. Like I said, almost 100% of the time people screech about that thread personality, no one is even talking about XIV or XVI, someone just decided to attribute an opinion they disagree with to an imagined thread personality who allegedly likes games that they dislike.
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>>563247851
I really do think it exists. Many times you say something bad about XVI, it deflects to XIII, "Redditbirth" or XV, and then if you engage with it, it starts writing long walls of off-topic reddit gibberish. Often uses personal insults like "little man" or other very complexly constructed personal monikers. Happened too many times. Anyway, my last post to you, since our conversation is not really about FF.
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>>563248558
>Many times you say something bad about XVI, it deflects to XIII, "Redditbirth" or XV
So what of the person who constantly deflects to XVI? That happened first, long before XIII, Redditbirth, or XV, and in my opinion was likely the cause of the deflections to those games, and in many cases there are no deflections to any game until there is first a deflection to XVI.
Just calling it how I see it. I think this "XVI chatbot aka Yoshi-P cultist" is a sort of self fulfilling prophecy for 1 or 2 posters because, again, there is almost never anyone talking about XIV or XVI, period, and almost never when people start screeching about this thread personality who might not even exist. Like, honestly, when is the last time you've ever read a defense of XVI in this thread? The most you get is "10/10 XVI"
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>>563247817
>Mother
Many, many cisgender, heterosexual men (XY chromosomes) say this.
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>>563249274
I mean, I'm just saying I don't even think one of your listed "Holy Trinity" even exists. You don't read any posts here ever defending XVI, and if anyone is ever talking about XVI it's only to shit on it, so I don't know how this person could even exist if they're not making any posts besides "XVI was 10/10"
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>>563249565
I explained how XVI cultist's modus operandi >>563248558. It is very simple sequence.
1) You say something bad about XVI.
2) Cultist start screeching about XIII or/and XV or/and VIIR (deflection starts).
3) It's over.
How can you tell it's truly a cultist? The same set of screenshots, graphs, and phrases, and roughly the same arguments. Incidentally, it's fond of saying it's only acting this way because it was the first one to be offended by some shitposters a long time ago. This doesn't make the situation any better for everyone else.
My final, definitive solution to this pressing issue:
a) ban XIII "newfag"
b) ban fatherless spammer
c) ban XVI cultist.
This is my LAST post on this FF unrelated matter. I apologize for any inconvenience this may have caused.
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Lightning is so RADIANT his face instantly tanned. The Goddess is THAT powerful.
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And I'm telling you, I don't even think this person exists, at least not in the capacity you are asserting. If there were actually a "XVI chatbot aka Yoshi-P cultist", you'd read posts defending XVI, which I don't think I've ever seen here. If I have, it was back when XVI first released or some other equally long time ago. There are dozens of posts shitting on XVI and I never see any defense of it other than some guy who occasionally says "XVI was 10/10". I think it's more appropriate to say that it's a "shitposter who upsets you by redirecting your own shitposts about XVI back to games that you actually like" than it is to call them a "XVI chatbot aka Yoshi-P cultists", because I never read any defense of XVI here, it's only shitposts about it. Even the deflections you are mentioning aren't defense of XVI, they are counter shitposts that have apparently hit their mark.
Now, my list, listed here >>563246996 removes this "XVI chatbot aka Yoshi-P cultist" person who doesn't even seem to actually exist and instead seems to be an amalgamation of imagined traits that are of course the exact opposite of what the person imaging this personality likes themselves, and it replaces this imaginary person with someone who does actually exist - the guy who melts down about Jimbo and gets angry about posts that don't exist and can never seem to point to the posts that made him melt down for hundreds of posts. You know, the same guy who made the thread even more unusable than it usually is shortly after Rebirth came out where he spent several months melting nonstop and spamming questions like "are you going to play the Smash 64 mod?". That guy actually exists and you cannot have a "Holy Trinity" of /ffg/ shitposting without him.
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Once again, no one is even saying anything about XIV or XVI, and you absolutely cannot have a "Holy Trinity" of /ffg/ shitposters without listing the guy who melts down about Jimbo all the time. Or, you could even have included "Jimbo". Both of these are real people who actually post here, meanwhile there is never any defense of XVI by anyone despite dozens of shitposts about it every thread, and the only "defense" that can be described is "someone who shitposts about XIII or VIIR or XV", which also doesn't say anything about XIV or XVI.
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My overall attitude towards VIIR tilogy is rather net-positive, but there are many things I still can’t accept or understand. I like Rebirth as a game, don't like Rebirth as a story, mostly don't like Remake as a game and as a story.
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Yes, that's true. Because our world is deprived of a remaster or a remake of the XIII trilogy.
Eclaire...where are you ?...only your cinema/40 best games can save this world...
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>>563241546
>Lost Kino
Ah yes, the true Final Fantasy XIII.
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What a looser.
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Kill yourself, kingslayer.
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Play a good game instead, like the 10/10 FFXVI.
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>>563276706
>In the ancient annals of Gran Pulse, Etro appears as the goddess of death and chaos. She is said to reside in the world where the souls of the dead find their rest—Valhalla.
>The people of the lowerworld worship Pulse, the great deity from which the land takes its name. Many tales from their folklore portray Etro as the abhorrent goddess of the afterlife.
>In the city of Paddra, however, faith in the goddess was commonplace, and it was said that the seeress drew from prophetic powers directly from Etro.
What's the joke here; chosen of Odin, the AllFather, regarding death and worthiness?
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>>563266919
We need a FFXVI trilogy
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>>563295017
No more trilogies. Trilogies are what's ruining Final Fantasy. It all went downhill with the XIII trilogy and turning the VII Remake into a trilogy is probably the 2nd worst decision Square Enix has ever made, right after turning XIII into a trilogy.
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>>563295978
SE said they were happy with the sales of XIII-3 (20,000 copies)
You're thinking of the Tomb Raider games. SE were very unhappy with those sales (38,000,000)
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>>563295978
Yeah, we need to go back to spin-off kino
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>>563296161
*Worse
>>563295978
You're right but the FFXVI trilogy would be so good it would reverse the trend. XVI-2 would be like LOTR The Two Towers
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>>563294696
>Start playing "Lightning Returns"
>Listen to the whole "savior" line with Hope telling us the whole theological diatribe on Bhunivelze
>Well.... this is certainly weird....
>Immediately change outfit to Guardian Corps..... where lightning swore to defend the people of Coccon against hostile Fal'sie
>Whereupon she was immediately turned into a l'sie by the very Fal'sie she was opposing from Gran Pulse.....
>Only to realize that the Fal'sie she was now opposing in the name of the Fal'sie from Gran Pulse were actually the greater threat to Cocoon
>Don Shield of Etro
>Immediately think about events from FFXIII-2
>Think of the proto Fal'sie that Hope was developing that immediately tried to rebel and enslave humanity
>"Hey what are the odds that this literally the same fucking thing that happened on both Coccon, and the other timeline Coccon with the "Proto Fal'sie" known as "Adam"?
>Kid Hope: "Everytime you "save" these people you'll be teleporting them to the new coccon where the people are telepathically and linguistically enslaved to a completely different Fal'sie.
>K; so I'll just teleport the people on Gran Pulse to this new Coccon, to save their lives.... as was the plan in XIII-2....
One can only wonder in which ways the shit from Orphan and Adam would have differed than the plan that Bhunivelze enacted.
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>>563296395
>Yeah, we need to go back to spin-off kino
If a game must have subsequent games, for whatever reason, it is definitely preferable that they be spin-offs rather than trilogies.
>>563298021
>You're right but the FFXVI trilogy would be so good it would reverse the trend
Probably not. And besides, quality isn't really that much of a factor for trilogies being mistakes. Remake and Rebirth are both good games with pretty high quality (and several pain points among fans), but I still think it's a huge mistake to release a 25 year old Remake of 1 game as 3 separate games spanning a decade and 2 console generations.
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>A shield from Valhalla, borne by the sworn protector of the goddess Etro.
>Etro
>Home Valhalla
Probably one of the funniest overlooked details..... and even funnier in terms of Shinto.....
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>>563294696
>Blót is Old Norse for “blood sacrifice.”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=60ejk2mbgdc
Chosen of Odin
Whose blood offering was the blood of Orphan's.
Guided by the Ásynja the Etro
Onward to eternity
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>>>Hypothesis:
One can determine if a Final Fantasy game was a "mistake" by whether or not a "Barry" type poster (henceforth characterized as a "B-class schizo") has attached themselves to the game.
>>>Evidence:
>I-XII
No B-class schizos.
>XIII
A B-class schizo has recently appeared for this game.
>XV
Patient zero, the original outbreak.
>Type-0
The only FNC game that does not have a B-class schizo.
>VII Remake
Has had a B-class schizo basically since Remake released.
>XVI
No B-class schizos.
>XI
No B-class schizos.
>XIV
Its fanbase is often described as "cultists", but this narrative was proven false by Dawntrail's exceedingly poor reception, and either way it has no singular B-class schizo.
>>>Conclusion:
If a B-class schizo has decided to attach themselves to a Final Fantasy game, you can assure that this game was a mistake in some way. So far, B-class schizos have only chosen to attach themselves to games which are part of a trilogy. Therefore, it may be further extrapolated that Final Fantasy becoming a series of trilogies has been a massive mistake. Not only will further trilogies (seemingly necessarily) spawn more schizos, but it will also lower the quality of the reception of these games online by the presence of these schizos terrorizing online communities. One needn't even be a Final Fantasy fan, necessarily, in order to know about patient zero's reign of terror. It's unclear whether the other B-class schizos are copycats or if patient zero awakened the latent B-virus in them.
>>>Postscript (Author's notes)
A Final Fantasy game being a "mistake" and having a B-class schizo attach themselves to it does not necessarily mean the game is bad. For example, Remake and Rebirth are both generally considered good games, but VII Remake being a trilogy is still a mistake. Anecdotally, I personally think Type-0 was the best FNC game, and it is the only one to not have a B-class schizo. I but do not believe this is a coincidence.
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An addendum to the image attached. Hopefully this one provides more clarification.
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>>563302805
Well, no, Versus XIII never came out. Its half-baked, cutting room floor abortion was handed to Tabata so that he could Frankenstein together its remains into what we now know as XV, which is, regardless, still part of FNC.
And, because rudimentary things like this might need explaining to people who seek on purpose to fail to understand, I'm not personally saying Versus XIII would be the dotted line. I'm saying this is what its perception was, before the FNC solidified into the mistake that it is today, and before its ghost became XV.
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>>563301465
>In Norse, the vǫlva was a powerful seeress who practiced seiðr, a form of magic tied to fate, prophecy, and the unseen threads of the world. Feared and respected, she walked between realms, speaking truths that even gods could not ignore.
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>>563301605
XVI almost had one or two. There were weird claims of the game being the second coming before it even released. Who was that guy who claimed XVI made their life better and was already thanking and congratulating YoshiP a month before it was out? And that other weirdo who was writing up big breakdowns about Clive was the best FF protagonist ever (again, before the game was out)
But the game came and went and it turned out to be a 7/10ish affair that didn't have lasting impact even among the people pre-emptively declaring it lifechanging kino.
I think the type of poster you're describing only happens when enough people call an FF bad and one hyperautistic and insecure schizo decides to take up sword and shield and waste their lives opposing the world and punishing everyone for daring to wrongthink so offensively. XVI only avoided this fate because not enough people cared enough to even call it shit. There's just a universal "meh" that doesn't go particularly positive or negative.
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>>563303587
>guy who claimed XVI made their life better and was already thanking and congratulating YoshiP a month before it was out?
>other weirdo who was writing up big breakdowns about Clive was the best FF protagonist ever (again, before the game was out)
I do not recall these people, but either way, despite the cultist allegations and the territory seemingly ripe for the taking, it has not managed to acquire a B-class schizo. It also is not part of a trilogy. Once again, I do not believe these things are coincidences.
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>>563303587
Well said. It's only the FF games which have noticeable public dissatisfaction (XIII, XV, VIIR) that causes these individuals to become corrupted by the B-Virus.
Aside from II, but I guess there are limits.
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sit the fuck down!!! I beat this bastard under leveled by 10 without my ice materia. Quetz is such a pain in the ass.
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Source: >>563301605
>It's unclear whether the other B-class schizos are copycats or if patient zero awakened the latent B-virus in them.
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>>563304390
Someone is about to take issue with one very specific part of your post.
>>563304503
Nice. I hope this catches on.
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>>563304795
That's just his first little huff post. It will be full blown screaming and stamping feet in about 30 minutes. The question to ask when this happens is why would anyone be annoyed by others making fun of Barry and the posters who act like him.
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>>563308698
>how dare you mock that poor inncoent woman REEEEEEEEEEE
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>>563308698
> Game allows you to name the princess
> There are millions upon millions of name options and the game shoves Dagger down your throat
> Women just put their own name and pretend Zidane is their boyfriend and a man loves them
Can't imagine what it must be like to self insert. Sounds sad.
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>>563309042
>gets called out on his misogyny
>immediately starts attacking straw men
yep, standard incel playbook
>>563309282
>anon surprised players self insert when game that allows self insert in a genre built on self inserting into game
tourist should get the rope
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>>563309570
> Game is anime shit about white and green haired 16 year old mary sue chosen ones saving the world
>> OMG IT'S SO PERFECT FOR SELF INSERTION! (30 years old fat woman who just took antidepressants because Drumpf is her president)
Oh yes... what better genre to self insert than jrpgs... I find 18 year old war general slut dressed Celes very relatable.
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>>563307359
1. I literally did the same thing with Cecil when I played FFIV (FFII US SNES) when I was a kid.
2. That's literally one of the funniest pictures you could post in a Rydia thread....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3bEOBwrJmw
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>11k power onion knight versus 17k power onion knight
>weaker onion knight uses Fire RF and does a quarter of the stronger onion knight's life
>stronger onion knight responds with his own Fire RF and does like 98% of the weaker onion knight's life
Kinda crazy for only a 6k point difference when I've seen people with over 20k power.
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>>563305058
Celes is a Rune Knight; I'm not sure of the class of Terra.... and it's rather a moot point, since neither of them subscribe to the school of thought of the typical black mage or white mage and use a variety of spells.
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its fun
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>caring about being cringe in a single player videogame
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>It's even funnier if you read it as him literally trying to avoid having sex with any of them; because he's in love with his one and only Rosa....
https://youtu.be/2KepXWToL7g?si=ImWXKV5YQqQrmQDA&t=3955
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>Literally tells someone else to take meds because of an argument and form that dosen't make any sense.
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>>563301605
XIV and XVI are the best ones for sure
>>563326886
You don't play these games. You are a little man that comes here to shitpost while you play your gacha gamblers
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Why XV is so popular?
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>do Iroha's basic combo of dash knock up into the long range damage jump back
>after knocking up one of my opponents I instantly lock in the next part of the combo
>targeting decides to change targets to an invulnerable opponent that was slightly closer now
Fuck this targeting system honestly. It should prioritize the most recently hit opponent if you use skills back to back
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>>563336471
>Rich
>Lazy
>Dozer
>Dressed like an emo but not really emo
>Hates vegetables
>Gacha addict
>Fishoholic
>Daddy issues
How underage do you have to be to find this character relatable?
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I like XV because it's male focused and not feminist garbage like the other FF games. I hate women.
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Seems like he has extremely high damage and long range but very long cool downs. Hard to say how good he is without knowing what his animations are like but he has no useful tools like stuns or knockups in his kit so he might be similar to Iroha (shit) but long range.
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Nobody knows, we know his kit but he's not out yet.
I am worried about his 2nd UR though, it's an auto attack boost in a game where that isn't really an archetype and with the rest of his kit I feel like unless he's super overtuned he's going to end up being Zidane 2.
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>XIV has multiple brother
XIV does not have any B-class schizos. At least not on 4chan. It has many different types of schizos, but none of them are the B-class type that we see exhibited in relation to XV and VIIR and XIII.
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>...define "B-class", please?
Please refer to this post: >>563301605
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>POV: you just criticized XVI on /ffg/
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>>563357453
That's more like what happens if you criticize VIIR or XIII. If you criticize XVI, nothing really happens at all.
>source: look at all the XVI criticism/shitposts in this thread, and then compare that to the end of last thread where VIIR was criticized (the criticism was that someone said they liked Remake more than Rebirth)
By the way, I was saving this image for when XIII newfag said "this is my thread" again, which he has done multiple times. You obviously just wanted to force your image.
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I liked Rebirth's gameplay more but Remake was a less exhausting experience. Rebirth was too much. Rebirth also completely ruined the City of the Ancients segment and I still haven't forgiven them for that.
Still a better game than XVI though.
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>>563360280
>Remake was a less exhausting experience. Rebirth was too much.
You're not allowed to say something like this. This very thing caused a massive meltdown at the end of last thread that caused the person melting to begin hallucinating posts that don't exist.
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>>563357453
All this is because we named him one of the members of the Holy Trinity of Shitposters.
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>You're the head schizo in this general.
I'm not even a schizo though.
>You're constantly facilitating schizophrenic shitposting
Not intentionally. I talk about Final Fantasy while attempting to bring the thread back to actual reality when it strays, which is often. Usually what happens is that the actual schizos begin melting down at me, both when I say anything about Final Fantasy and also when I try to bring us back to real reality, away from the fantasies that are loosely based on one.
>which you samefag endlessly
I never have and I never will samefag. I have too much integrity to do such a thing. It is beneath me.
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>>563193134
This post was clearly written by someone who enjoys playing the victim, which is a very poor quality for a man to have in life.
Don't listen the local passive aggressive Karen woman, kings.
You are allowed here to criticize whatever game you want.
You are allowed here to praise whatever game you want.
Other people have the right to disagree or agree with you and discuss the issue as much as they want.
You do you, explorers.
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>>563360969
You're lying to yourself. You're constantly samefagging with posts like "you're not allowed to do this and that" and "you made them angry" and "le fatherless" and whatever other deranged shitposts you need to spout day in and day out. Take your meds. You fool no one, idiot.
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It's time to stop samefagging, Fatherless.
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>>563361503
>You're lying to yourself.
Nope.
>You're constantly samefagging with posts like "you're not allowed to do this and that" and "you made them angry" and "le fatherless"
Also nope. You're doing that thing where you believe all posts you dislike were made by one person. I have never and will never samefag. I have far too much integrity to do anything like that. It is very much beneath me.
>You fool no one, idiot.
Well, I'm not trying to fool anyone, but someone seems to have nevertheless fooled themselves on my behalf.
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>>563362091
Maybe maybe...BUT! Despite that, still better than XVI!
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Can't argue that. XVI is not an RPG. Its like some DmC/The Bouncer/Netflix medieval slop all in one.
Should have been Final Fantasy flavored Last Judgement (From Yakuza series)
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Fallout, Diablo, Ogre Battle, and while not in the same year, two better SE games were released ~4months later in FFT and SaGa Frontier.
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>Fallout, Diablo, Ogre Battle,
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>Fallout, FF Tactics, Breath of Fire III, Wild Arms, Grandia, Diablo
I do believe I like Breath of Fire III more than FFVII, so I'll agree that FFVII wasn't even the best RPG released in 1997.
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>Lost Judgement
The story is literally 100 times better, no shit. "B-but what about Sawa-sensei" from Yagami was a slightly weak argument, which in turn weakened the antagonist's message, but it was still a very good, realistic and genuinely relevant to our time conflict. The scene of Akihiro Ehara humiliating the court at the final hearing was absolute cinema.
Overall, TLJ is a better game than XVI in every way, except perhaps for the responsiveness and smoothness of the combat system. I'd too be interested to see what would happen if they crossed Yakuza design formula—a huge, living city or small region, heavily populated, with minigames and other varied content, but without empty fields and bloat—with one of the settings and combat systems of Final Fantasy. Something in the style of Agni's Philosophy, but based on the Yakuza world/map design maybe.
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Uruwashiki Megami Yo....
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>Balthier's highest damage ability is about as useful as Fire RF but has twice the cooldown
>We don't know yet because he hasn't come out but it will probably have a longer animation too so it's easier to dodge
Lmao
Fire RF is just broken on a fundamental level
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>You know what you do day in and day out
I do talk about Final Fantasy and attempt to ground the thread in reality when it begins spiraling, both of which is almost always met with combative schizophrenia, like what you're doing right now.
>What a fulfilling hobby it must be. Must be, considering you're spending your saturday doing it.
You're here too, little man. I'm old. I spent from high school to covid outside doing things on the weekends. I also did actually spend nearly all of today outside with people, it was just during the day instead of at night like it was "in my youth". What's your excuse for shitposting about nothing on a Saturday night?
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>>563368123
Sure, why not. Not a fan of Shivalry though.
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>>563367361
You're a mentally ill shitposter. You've spent hours raging about "the fatherless" and "struck nerves," while both shitting on and defending XIII and XVI. It doesn't matter what you say. At the end of the day, you know. How that knowledge impacts you depends on your level of self-awareness.
It took me 30 seconds in the archives to find posts fitting this pattern dating back to at least 2024. Your existence would be considered purgatory by some. Keep denying it. You know.
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>>563369983
>You're a mentally ill shitposter.
Nope.
>You've spent hours raging about "the fatherless" and "struck nerves," while both shitting on and defending XIII and XVI.
Also nope.
Man, you are not very good at this are you? If you are going to continue to schizo out at me for things I've never said or done, I'm going to have to be the bigger man (because I am) and just stop replying to you, because I'm sensing a *lot* of projection right now with regards to proposed hobbies which people are occupying their time with on a Saturday night.
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>>563370410
Two globohomo shitters fightning. Again.
Here, I'll show you:
XVI bad 5/10 not a Final Fantasy game braindead button masher slop interactive movie.
XIII good.
XIII-2 40/40 good.
LR good.
XV good.
VII Remake good.
VII Rebirth good.
Takai good.
Hamaguchi good.
Nomura good.
Yoshi-P bad, subversive suit, corporate slopper.
Matsuno is a hack.
Chocobo Mystery Dungeon 2 is better than XVI.
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>>563371394
Most retarded taste I've ever seen.
You have severe brain damage, I'm afraid...
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>>563372390
You're coping hard, my friend.
The future of Final Fantasy is high fantasy kino.
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16-kun reminds me of that cybrog photographer from Rick and Morty because I can't help but read his posts imagining some kind of candid response from a bot, but other times he comes off like a esl turdworlder with how absuredly REDUNDANT and adamant he is on being objective.
>No saar, that is incorrect. Saar, please, I did not shitpost or defend Yoshi-P and 16 and I do not shitposted Yoshi-P and 16, ever, saar. That has not happened. It is in fact you who has done the shitposting of Yoshi-P and 16.
>Saar, I am merely grounding the thread, saar. The "16 cultist" does not exist. The only "cult" to exist is the VIIRgins and the 13fag in this thread, saar. I am not exist.
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>>563373261
You did it, king. Very aptly put.
Which Final Fantasy girl should I post to repay you?
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>>563373178
I didn't say anything negative about high fantasy as the basis for visual design. Can you read? I was talking about the abomination called XVI with its empty MMO maps, dumb story, combat system for children and normies, and so on. Everyone knows the sins of this game.
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>>563373261
>Projecting mutt loves Reddit and Morty and Redditbirth
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>>563370410
>I'm going to have to be the bigger man (because I am) and just stop replying to you
>Shortly followed by an immediate and totally not samefag reply about how this post "struck someone's nerv headquarters"
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>Saar, I am merely grounding the thread, saar. The "16 cultist" does not exist. The only "cult" to exist is the VIIRgins and the 13fag in this thread, saar. I am not exist.
Kino.
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Imagine spending your Saturday here crying about FFXVI and replying to yourself lmao
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>>563374482
Nobody here is replying to their own posts, turn off the projector. As for the whining about XVI, I'm glad about that. The real fans are fighting for the series' legacy, fighting with all their might and on every platform against the wretchedness of XVI. They're like Final Fantasy's immune system—they pinpoint the threat and destroy it to preserve what little remains of the series soul. We are real Warriors of Light in a sense. These idiots based XVI's design on God of War and Devil May Cry. They wanted to replace chocobos with fucking horses. They wanted to add even more cutscenes to the game than we ended up getting (what, 30, 40 hours?). They were afraid to give the player the option to choose Final Fantasy mode because they wanted their boring story to be played to the end. They had 6+ years to develop this slop, which is a great luxury for a numbered game developer (the last time such luxury was enjoyed was only by the creators of XII). Over these six years, we've gotten the dreary corridors of XIII, 20 hours of subpar cutscenes, MMO quests, a virtual absence of customization and party building, a completely empty world that's pointless to explore and experience, and so on and so forth. Final Fantasy fans must fight against this; they must make their voices heard on all platforms. We must make it clear that we don't want this.
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>>563376015
Eikon = Summon
Dominant = Summoner
He loses the tattoo after the timeskip
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>>563377074
10 hours or less
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>>563375467
I've played every Final Fantasy...
FFXVI is easily the best one.
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>>563318171
>"Alleged"
Don't you mean All ages?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLq5av7WI0U
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>>563370410
https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/search/text/%22the%20fatherless%22/order/asc/p age/5/
43 pages of your fatherless spam, by the way, give or take the first 5 sporadic mentions since 2019. This is your illness.
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>>563384346
Balthier https://youtube.com/watch?v=oimrgrdNJ-U&pp=0gcJCdUBo7VqN5tD
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Irrefutable.
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Maybe you should take a break from your shitposting and play some video games.
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>>563387556
It's not that bad. Yuffie's Windstorm destroys all the magic cactuars while you can use the shuriken to teleport to melee cactuars for combos. Aerith is much easier and you get so much bonus time you basically can't lose unless you don't understand the basics of the minigame.
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>>563387519
I always play video games.
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Killing Canadians with the Bluemoon Greatsword.
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>>563389158
These are semibots from REPO.
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>>563390506
I personally really like it because the robots are really cute. But I'd rather not play it. I prefer Void Crew.
REPO does have fun expressions for the robots: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p6dYroZvJck
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>>563387002
speaking of abilities https://x.com/DDFF_EN/status/2043267886819475541
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>>563391180
I envy you. Last game I played was modded Elden Ring, because I think these hard games are the best to play coop in, but friend just got tired of it and stopped it. I kindad with SoP got coop multiplayer, it'd be fun to hear him panic when I unleash Ultima.
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>>563314390
>who the fuck played the original SNES one?
The Japanese.
That said we're almost 20 years from the 3D remake's release. SE could throw some more bones to it, especially when one of the mobile games that actually featured those characters is dead (RIP BE). I don't think the Duellum interviews have shown whoever is in charge of 3 material have they?
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XIII is shit
Still better than XVI
Irrefutable
TRVTHNVKE
Actually it's not me, little shitposting man....(*a lot of meaningless text*)
You truck a nerve, they/them fuming.
XVI sold 2x more than Redditbirth
Still better than XVI
So it seems, so it seems
My wife Eiko is super cool.
You angered xim.
XV better than everything
Actually, Barry...(*a lot of meaningless text*)
Kys pedo.
Indeed. Indeed.
What did we learn today?Mother..........
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>>563411206
Anyone who plays Ever Crisis is probably in the Ever Crisis thread on /vmg/. This is not the place for video game discussion. Last time people tried to talk about what was happening in Ever Crisis here, it caused a meltdown that lasted for several threads.
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Final Fantasy needs a game like The Witcher 3.
Maybe XVI-2 will deliver.
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>I say this as someone who has spent more than 1000 dollars and hours on Ever Crisis
Why would you do that in the first place?
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>>563413373
Gambling addiction
Very sad
Not Final Fantasy nor video game related
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>>563413373
Not proud of it, but it just adds up over time. $13.99 a month for the season pass seemed reasonable since I had cancelled my FF14 subscription and that was a big chunk of it. I was a day 1 player who took until this past month to fully get over the game. The hours are mostly leaving it open on auto in the background to be honest so I didn't really dedicate all that time to it, but hey.
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>>563414203
>cancelled XIV and subscribed to EC instead
>this ballooned out of control into over $1,000 somehow
>you literally don't even play Ever Crisis, you just spam the "Retry" button
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>>you literally don't even play Ever Crisis, you just spam the "Retry" button
Look, EC sucks, but this is also just not true. I had lots of fun doing the challenge content and it was genuinely engaging. There just also was a lot of currency/material grinding to make sure I had the upgrades to take on the challenge fights. Also, FF14 hasn't been good for like 5 full years at this point, I honestly would rather that subscription money have gone to EC than 14 100 times out of 100.
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>Look, EC sucks, but this is also just not true.
I dunno man, I played the beta, and literally the only thing you do is spam "Retry" with your nearly infinite stamina. Literally the exact same "gameplay" as Nier Re[in]carnation. Sure there was Subjugation I think it was called, and maybe you timed one or two skill presses, but it's no exaggeration to say that all you do is spam the "Retry" button for as long as you are able to keep your phone or computer on.
>I honestly would rather that subscription money have gone to EC than 14 100 times out of 100.
That's insanity, man. A caricature of an opinion. You literally don't even actually play Ever Crisis, I can't even understand this. Maybe because I'm not a gacha/gambling addict. These are probably the things one must tell themself in order to help rationalize spending $1,000 on a "Retry" simulator featuring the characters from Final Fantasy VII.
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I have thousands of hours logged on FF14 and well over $1,000 spent considering I first subbed back in patch 2.2. I have seen various versions of what the game could and should be and based on recent years I'm quite certain I've seen the best the game will ever be again. The modern version of 14 is simply not worth supporting. I don't love EC so much I'd give up 14 for it. I hate 14 so much that I'd take EC over it.
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>The modern version of 14 is simply not worth supporting. I don't love EC so much I'd give up 14 for it. I hate 14 so much that I'd take EC over it.
I get what you're saying. XIV has clearly already peaked. I just also think that you need to tell yourself these things in order to rationalize how you spent over $1,000 on a game that you don't even play, just because it features characters from Final Fantasy VII. Like, if we're just assuming that your monthly $14 subscription is going to go *somewhere* Final Fantasy related, you could have been playing XI and have been actually playing a real game instead of setting up AHK or an Android Emulator macro to spam the "Retry" button for 12 hours per day, which to be clear *is* what the """gameplay""" of Ever Crisis is.
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>>563417141
>Like, if we're just assuming that your monthly $14 subscription is going to go *somewhere* Final Fantasy related, you could have been playing XI
My FF11 subscription has been uninterrupted for years, even through extended periods of not logging in, running alongside my subscriptions to 14 or EC, or anything else. I love FF11 and have always just thought I should do what I can to help it continue to exist. Also, I will reiterate that EC did have fights like B100 Jenova, Bahamut EX2, and the Brutal Tower floor 30 fight that required thoughtful teambuilding and engaged gameplay. Yes, a lot of hours were spent spamming retry but there were also things like the original story. Fist Soldier Episode 2 ended like a wet fart, but it started phenomenally. Look, I've already quit EC I'm not trying to sell it. I'm just saying you are not being honest to say it had absolutely nothing to offer. Even as a class A 14 hater even I can admit the 4.X patch cycle was fucking awesome. Also 1,000 hours after literal years ha left my thousands of other hours which I have spent on other games, live service and single player, FF and not as well as non vidya hobbies.
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>>563418790
Oh, I see. So you're basically already maxed out on Final Fantasy subscriptions, as in you have all of them. At least you're keeping the lights on, I just can't wrap my head around Ever Crisis. I played Nier Re[in]carnation for a while, but the only reason I was able to stomach it was because it had an injector that would auto-use all of your stamina and auto-complete every chore so that you could just view the story or play the parts you actually wanted to play. And Ever Crisis is the same exact fucking game made by the same exact fucking people, it just has a rehashed story that you already know (except the NPCs from First Soldier) whereas Re[in] had new characters. You can't tell me that you do anything other than spam "Retry" because you don't, and that's why I can't wrap my head around having spent over $1,000 on it. It's not even a game. Not only is it not even a game, it's not even a story because you already know the story, it doesn't even have that going for it while Re[in] did. But like I said, you seem to be completely maxed out on Final Fantasy already, so I guess... enjoy your spending in Duellum? At least that seems to be an actual game, though I've not played it and probably never will.
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He'll spend literally hours accusing others of insincerity to justify his own lack of interest in discussing anything. I don't know if he really means it or not, and I don't know which would be worse.
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>>563423398
Why not just download the apk then? You can download it online or from QooApp usually. I've never been region blocked, but I've been told it's not supported for my device and then I download the apk anyway and it works fine.
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>>563427189
It's the Masamune, whose blade has an organic quality to it. The speculation surrounding this originally caused a meltdown that spanned several threads. The VIIR defender even became so incensed about people speculating about VIIR's additional lore that he believed he was upset at his mortal enemy and he called him a retarded Aerithfag, not realizing that what he was upset about was something that came directly from Tetsuya Nomura himself.
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It actually blocks you even with the APK, you need an account made at launch or a VPN if you're outside the service region.
I can log in with my day 1 account fine, but if I try to make another instance on my phone, it just errors out endlessly.
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>>563357453
God i'm sick of seeing that dude everywhere it's like everyone is so bored and depressed of all news being war garbage or sky rocketing prices or shit that the second something like some chud screaming into a camera happens everyone obsesses over it.
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>>563436129
I think there's a little more to it than that. He's the exact person you think of when you picture a reddit/discord mod. He's even wearing a trench coat and a Demon Slayer shirt, and he's having the most insane meltdown ever, about some random stranger's daughter, which kinda feeds back into reddit/discord moderators and grooming children.
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>facing the boss and bursted
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>auto targeting thinks it would be a better idea to turn all the way around and target the opponent behind me
This need to fix this fucking targeting system holy fuck
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he's having a mental episode he thinks he's some fantasy character from a fantasy book. i just find it cringe that "vigilantes" are trying to dox his ass when this guy is clearly not well. it's disgusting
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>>563437563
>he's having a mental episode he thinks he's some fantasy character from a fantasy book.
Not different from that anon in this thread who things Lightning is real and she's his wife
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>The Eiko pedo is less obnoxious than the Lightning tranny fucker.
Easily. The Eiko guy just says Eiko is Eiko is the cutest or whatever. The Lightning avatarfag spams Lightning images for 12-18 hours per day and just keeps talking about himself and how upset everyone but him is. Same thing he did in the Mass Effect thread on /v/ that he actually got banned in; kept spamming his 4k images of the blue girl with no hair who also looks like a man, talking about how all the other girls are inferior, everyone who likes them is stupid, and everyone is upset but him. It took out like half the thread when he got banned. Luckily, he hasn't been very present (or at least hasn't loudly announced his presence like he usually does) for the past month or two.
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>>563439452
Exactly. At least the Eiko fucker keeps his faggotry to a tolerable minimum. He still irks me, but he comes, spouts his shit, and then leaves, so he's tolerable.
The fatherless, however, constantly talks shit about everyone else, tries to shill its shit waifu, and then answers itself and compliments itself for hours on end.
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>longer fights
>0.5x defense multiplier
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Literally a blot offering of prophecy; slayer of Orphan, saving the people of Coccon from the Ragnarok, a shield maiden of the Valkyrie Goddess Etro, what's not to understand?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=60ejk2mbgdc
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People have brainrot that compels them to play ""optimally"" so they can't not use draw like 99 times in a row while playing FF8 and they can't not waste time sitting in battle and beating themselves up in FF2. It's remarkably similar to the brainrot that tells people they simply HAVE to scan all the towers and whatever in Rebirth when they don't actually want to or the one where they aren't allowed to start a gacha until they ask about the current meta and what to reroll for.
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>>563447671
Because of how simple and stupid the damage formula is, defense is legitimately useless. You could get away with having a 0.0x defense multiplier, especially if they gave you those points back in a stat that mattered like attack.
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>>563465676
Almost certainly not, but maybe. Can you even imagine? They give the people the Remake they actually wanted, it costs a fraction of the price to produce than the "real" VII Remake cost, a fucking gacha company owns part of it, and it's massively more successful and is rated more highly by fans than the "real" Remake? There's too much potential for humiliation.
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>Hammerhead
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Irrefutable.
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>>563453246
What's with the "ruined the original" strawman? Nobody says remake ruined the original, they just say they liked the original and disliked the remake.
I know one of our regular posters HATES strawmen arguments so I'm disappointed to see he's not cracking down on this one. I guess some strawman arguments are worse than others.
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>>563489357
I think there are just so many arguments that no one has ever actually said here that it becomes tiresome to try to refute every single one of them unless you're already inside of a heated and schizophrenic argument where someone brings up a post that no one in the thread made but it makes an argument that he's upset about.
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>>563489520
True. It's one thing to pretend "someone out there" is making an argument, but quite another to actually claim an argument is being made in a thread when it hasn't been. The mystery at that point is why tell such an easily proven lie, or did this person genuinely believe this argument existed in the thread due to some kind of paranoid, insecure delusion?
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>>563387002
https://x.com/DDFF_JP/status/2043645383276999002 https://x.com/DDFF_JP/status/204363 0282956255539
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>>563453246
This highlights one of the big issues with JRPG audiences that has cropped up since graphic technology really took off: you're supposed to use your imagination when you play a JRPG. Part of the reason the gameplay profile worked was that nothing was 1:1, and players understood that. It allowed things like exploration, exposition, and combat to happen at a more streamlined pace because players knew they weren't watching a movie. They were on a virtual adventure. You're supposed use the game as a framework and fill in the rest yourself.
FF7 kind of existed at the nexus of this transition. The environments and overworld were simplified, but the FMVs basically gave players a glimpse into what they should have been using their imaginations to do, and then demand simply skyrocketed for games that did all the work for you, to the point that 90% of every game is just one big cutscene, and you're lucky enough to long-press buttons to open doors every now and again. SO IMMERSIVE.
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>Nobody says remake ruined the original,
You gotta be at least a little disingenuous to pretend there aren't a significant amount of people who say this about literally every remake or sequel ever made. The average midwit is a huge continuity fag, and they are utterly incapable of ignoring things they don't like.
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The "link copy paste", if only because I'm an FF5 faggot and I love all their green getups with different bandanas.
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I haven't seen anyone claim the remakes ruined the original. If there are a significant number of people doing this it should be easy for you to show me evidence of it happening. But you can't, because there is in fact a very insignificant amount of people doing this, contrary to your claims.
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>>563526927
Doesn't matter. This is not a spear, not even a sword-spear. This is just a sword, one with a very stupid and impractical design, but a sword nonetheless.
Look where you grab, and you can't move your grab higher because the metal bits are in the way.
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What second handle? You mean this part? You cannot properly hold it, the metallic parts are in the way. I mean, compared this to the Klingon weapon in Star Trek, the bat'leth. Notice how the handles of the bat'leths are very easy to reach?
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And also, even if you removed all the shit around it, there are still all kind of shit on the handle that would make holding it a pain in the arse, so maybe it could count as a spear in this specific case, but I doubt you'd be able to fight as if it was one. Can't block using the handle, for example, you'd have to block with the blade.
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Here's a spear for comparaison. The handle has to be longer than the blade.
The nagamaki, for example, has a handle as long as the blade, and is categorized as a two-handed sword.
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>>563531489
Oh. So it isn't just an FF thing? I thought only Cecil Harvey had that issue of whether he had a sword or not
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>>563532337
I mean, there's a long, LONG history of weapons, and while FF's weapons are very stupid in design, most of them are still "pick existing weapon and make it extra by adding shit".
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>>563533012
And yet Cecil definitely fucks.
So does Astolfo.
And so did Uther Silverhand.
And so did Uther Pendragon.
And so did Uther Eats.
And so did these guys.
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>Playing Lightning Returns for the first time this past weekend
>Listen to the whole "hope" spiel....
>Well; it certainly sounds like Hope made another "timeline" with a "artificial" I'ice/Fal'sie to try to levitate the "new coccon"; except this one not only enslaved him, but literally turned him into a child with childlike simplemindedness and stupidity to control him.
>Listen to his whole speech about "saving souls" so that his bullshit I'ice/Fal'sie can control everyone and enslave them on the new coccon
>"Umm.... sorry bro; gave it some thought, decided that the Gods really aren't gonna execute people in the afterlife, or torture them forever, for being depressed and cynical regarding their planet exploding".
>Immediately call bullshit on the whole thing
Decided to call bullshit on the whole thing. Gonna spend the next 6 days in the capital running down the clock; spitting on the edifice of that church/cathedral before just hanging out at restaurants and cafes and chilling at the inn.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RPtq1Bpf6q4
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Yeah. Can't even talk about how Cecil fucks, it triggers that tranny lover.
>>563534836
He is lorewise, the paladins were Charlemagnes's very own knights, such as Roland.
Gameplaywise, he's just a Rider, he doesn't have paladin-like magical power to protect to swerve.
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This kusoge has been a godsend as a f2p in dissidia
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Mmm. I'm really enjoy reading XIV's lore.
Any other FF has a lot of lore too, or is it just MMOs that have a lot of side content to read about?
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If you have a job and are willing to pay it's not worth it at all. As a f2p NEET it's worht it for me but definitely takes more time than just a few hours in total but I mostly just do dailies and auto-battle while playing games on my PS5. It also helps that while it's a kusoge, the gameplay is bareable unlike 99% of the other games you can play for mogcoin.
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>>563540140
Huh. Is XVI's lore that interesting? From watching friend play it, it looked like "some people are host to gods, and are enslaved for some reason, and they fight, Highlanders-style".
Also, funny, but in XIV, the ink wizard are turned into mystagogues in my translation.
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>>563553638
>initially said BLU would be getting more content in DT
>scrapped the BLU update in the home continent of BLU and completely replaced planned BLU content with BST (BST is max level 50 btw)
>announced a change to what quests limited jobs can do
>now BLU is ending DT with LESS content than it started the expansion with
These devs are a whole new level of retarded.
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>>563557043
they announced you can't do some types of quests with BLU anymore with the BST update, mostly affecting the ARR tribes
it's incredibly minor and nobody did it anyway, but it's still fucking hilarious to have the only change this expansion takes content away from it after it already had its update cut
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So... we all agree Uncs need to stop shitting up Final Fantasy, right?
It belongs to the zoomers now. fr fr.
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Top 30 characters that Nips want to see in Duellum
1: Tifa (FF7)
2: Noctis (FF15)
3: Squall (FF8)
4: Tidus (FF10)
5: Joshua (FF16)
6: Sephiroth (FF7)
7: Aerith (FF7)
8: Jill (FF16)
9: Edgar (FF6)
10: Hope (FF13)
11: Ace (FF Type-0)
12: Zack (FF7)
13: Dion (FF16)
14: Bartz (FF5)
15: Minwu (FF2)
16: Cecil (FF4)
17: Ignis (FF15)
18: Ryne (FF14)
19: Emet-Selch (FF14)
20: Reno (FF7)
21: Yuna (FF10)
22: Auron (FF10)
23: Laguna (FF8)
24: Vivi (FF9)
25: Serah (FF13)
26: Wakka (FF10)
27: Vaan (FF12)
28: The Emperor (FF2)
29: Mash/Sabin (FF6)
30: Marche (FF Tactics Advance)
https://dengekionline.com/article/202604/69474
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>>563567532
I mean, that's because I haven't played it yet. I'm very easily sucked in fantasy worlds, I just have to finish my backlog first.
>FFIV
>FFV
>FFVII (again, with fantranslation)
>Bravely Default
>Nier Automata
>Drakengard 1 & 2
>Suikoden 1 & 2
>Secret of Mana
>that one about dreams, Alundra?
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>>563200303
>Is the new Dissidia F2P?
It's straight up pay to win. You can be a pay whale, dump hundreds, if not thousands of dollars and you can max out most abilities and steamroll all the way to end game. The gameplay itself doesn't give you enough breathing room to have gameplay expression, secondly.. you're at the mercy of your teammates.
Good luck though, you might have fun but once you creep up to a certain level there's going to be some fucking retard paywhale who will just outclass you because he's a paywhale.
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You know I wonder about playing Onion Knight in a world with Balthier. With his auto attack buff he might be able to kill onion knight with two attacks and if that's the case he might be able to hypothetically spawn camp the onion knight and kill him three times with one UR.
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I don't play gachaslop. How true is pic related?
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>>563563064
>Noctis that high
Barrychad just can't stop winning.
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Krile looking familiar.
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The red crystal implementation is a fucking disaster, it's random chance and goes away if you lose the match. So now everyone is throwing casuals if they don't see a red to get a blue so they can reroll for crystals faster than waiting 6 hours for a gold to open.
These devs are so fucking incompetent it hurts.
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The Sector 7 town bike.
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Did you know that Cloud and Zack carry their swords slightly differently? This dates back to the original 1997 version of the game. Zack carries it with the blade facing right, and Cloud facing left.
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>>563576610
Chaos died back in the first game, hence why NT/OO has Spiritus.
Garland could technically transform into Chaos since FF1, but we've never seen it. Opera Omnia went withthe Cloudsea Djinn/Garland's alt from Duodecim.
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Are there any offline FF phone games?
Every single one seems perms online gacha shit
Can't believe nobody made an offline version of dissidia oo or record keeper
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>>563234834
I enjoyed both, but Rebirth is definitely better as a game overall. It knows it's a hallway ARPG with big open zones designed to trick people into thinking it's an "open world" game and it does that well. Funny how all these years later, CS1 *still* wants to make FFXIII, but they aren't allowed to be honest about it.
XVI, meanwhile, is two games at once. It's a traditional character action game with okay-ish scoring and a decent enough movepool with the DLC included. However, between each of the character action levels—the actual "game" part—is the skeleton of a modern semi-open world RPG where you talk to people, engage in sidequests, try to get new equipment and stuff, et cetera. None of it feels meaningful, though. When you get Ramuh, the progression can just stop if you want it to. In the context of a score attack CA game, it makes more sense to lab out which Eikons fit your playstyle the best and/or which might work better for a particular stage for scoremaxing. However, in the context of a survival-based RPG system (which is how most people will play XVI, let's be real) there's no real need to use anything more than the basic shit you're given.
It was an interesting experiment, trying to find a middle ground between character action and RPG design without significantly altering either, but it ultimately shows that the genres just aren't compatible unless they meet in the middle. And we already know what that "meeting in the middle" looks like from games like Rebirth, KH1 & 2, and SoP.
If there's one thing that could have made XVI slightly better, it would've been implementing the CA scoring system in the normal game and tying it to reward systems, thus giving non-CA players an incentive to engage with the CA systems instead of just doing cooldown rotations.
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Aside from the one you posted? I don't think so aside from the ports (and maybe Theatrhythm, but I remember reading that you had to buy the songs one by one).
There is a 3DS port ofPitclogicathough. Not sure if it was online like the phone version.
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>>563540140
XIII Trilogy and XV have some additional lore in their light novels as well, along with the usual Ultimania tidbits
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If you like those games you'll probably enjoy XVI's world and lore too
I've been reading through Logos and enjoying it a lot
Very dense with lore and history, plus some fun character stuff sprinkled in too
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>>563563670
Nah, it's just that Bartz is genuinely the best choice, given the context. Faris and Lenna really only work as a pair, and Krile's entire purpose as a character is undercut if Galuf is around. Bartz embodies the themes of his game the best, as well as being a natural counterpart to Krile. Plus he's just a fun dude who plays well with other characters, like he did with Zidane and Squall in Dissidia.
Japs are actually just smart and understand their own media so they agree on what the actual "best" choices are for the cast, instead of just being a shallow popularity contest.
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Considering all the assets and work done for EC and how octopath traveler 0 became a game from a gacha, do you guys think they could actually take all the work from EC and make a """real""" remake of FFVII with those assets? would be pretty cool
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>>563599747
What are you questioning about it? With how the crystal slots work it's the inevitable result when you add limited event ones into the pool. Amusingly, in Silver you still get greys for a loss, so higher ranked players are actually punished compared to people who stuck to casual.
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>please create a new thread without a pedophile OP pic
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Stay mad