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>WHAT IS HELLDIVERS 2?
HELLDIVERS 2 is a 2024 crossplay, co-op, squad-based, PvE 3rd person shooter for PC, PS5 and XBox Series X/S where players fight against hordes of alien insects, robots and squids to Spread Democracy™. Players wage war on contested planets, each with a different biome, completing as many objectives as possible in a procedurally generated level while constrained by a time limit. With enough successful missions, a planet can be defended or liberated, and the player base must combine their efforts as much as possible to Liberate™ the galaxy.
https://store.steampowered.com/app/553850/HELLDIVERS_2/
https://www.playstation.com/en-us/games/helldivers-2/
https://www.xbox.com/en-us/games/store/helldivers-2/9mx9wn9dfpgt
>WHAT ABOUT THE FIRST HELLDIVERS GAME?
Released in 2015 for PC, PS3/4 and PS Vita, the original HELLDIVERS is a shared screen top-down shooter in the same setting. Its mechanics were based primarily on Arrowhead's first game, Magicka.
https://store.steampowered.com/app/394510/HELLDIVERS_Dive_Harder_Editi on/
https://www.playstation.com/en-us/games/helldivers/
>LOBBY HOSTING
https://files.catbox.moe/83ixkr.png
>MODDING
https://files.catbox.moe/c81ogo.png
>INFORMATION RESOURCES
https://helldivers.wiki.gg/
https://helldiverscompanion.com/
https://democracy-hub.net
https://helldive.live
>MAJOR NEWS
Feb 10 Machinery of Oppression https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gj5JS68ny14
Mar 17 Entrenched Division https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3zP5GWoQi0
Mar 17 Roadmap https://twitter.com/helldivers2/status/2033907671036743796
Mar 20 Uncover the Truth https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rn_uyAaJ3Z0
>LATEST PATCHES
Mar 17 1.006.100 https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/553850/view/541133047968301984
Mar 25 1.006.101 https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/553850/view/507356684541232939
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What kind of diver are you?
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The *spins giant wheel* plasma punisher should be *spins* buffed!
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I ping everything in sight, feel good to be a helpful teammate
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>finally caught up with warbonds with a max limit medal stockpile
>4 levels away from max
>have all of my favorite weapons either maxxed out or at level 20
I did it
I beat helldivers
now i can just enjoy the game
right?
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Lobby dozo
Bugs dozo
Worm dozo
>steam://joinlobby/553850/109775241671544929/76561197986229160
steam://joinlobby/553850/109775241671544929/76561197986229160
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>hey XYZ can you stop pinging every single fucking thing in the lobby you nigger
objectively the correct way to play the game
>omg my team didnt react to the heavy that tickled my butthole from a different direction but i didnt mark it because thats for n00bs
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Fucking hell I got raped in Omicron, tunnel ratting is impossible on diff when fucking chargers and impalers show up, they didn't playtest shit at all
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its amazing how the playerbase doesnt get this
please mark the bile titan 110m away
please mark rushers that spawn
please mark the unalerted patrol near where were posted up so everyone is aware of the immediate threats
please mark the tank tower that is barely visible through the fog but lining us up
please.
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mark.
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Things you should ping
>Tanks/Titans
>your sentries
>supplies
>2 lock vaults
>extraction (only if everyone agrees theyre done)
Everything else will automatically be called out by divers or is already on the map
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>>563366038
They really needed to decrease corpse despawn times
It's so obnoxious when you're fucking shit up
get pinned by the boddies you've stacked
and the live bugs just start clipping through the bodies no problem
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>>563365832
wrong fucking link god damnit
>steam://joinlobby/553850/109775241676700441/76561197986229160
steam://joinlobby/553850/109775241676700441/76561197986229160
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>>563366991
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>>563366991
JOIN. NOW.
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>>563367086
>run into it alone
>eats are still on CD for 20 seconds
>that's ok because the warstrider can't hit shit
>run around in circles for 30 seconds waiting for EATs
>get hit by it's nade spam
>that's ok because they do next to no damage
>kill it
>move on
>somehow this is the """worst""" unit on the bot front that needs to be nerfed even more
Bot sissies are really something
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I killed a hive lord with randoms today.
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No, I've been running that for a very long time.
>be RRchud
>instagibbed by teammate's eagle cluster and/or or reinforced on the other side of the map
>be almost completely useless for 4 minutes
leveller is nice but it's almost always overkill, commando is the better pairing imo since you can possibly kill hulks in 1, take out gunships without feeling like a waste, and use it while on the move from point to point.
Only downside is 2 blues leaves you pretty strapped for what else to take. 500kg for factory striders and detector towers, portable hellbomb for jammers and orbital cannons, but a sentry would be nice to have for holding, or any more chaff-cleary eagle/orbital would be nice to have too, so you gotta sacrifice something.
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>Increasing the durable damage made the GATOR go from being an absolute tank of a truck into a cardboard truck that dies in minutes.
>Giga grenades blow up on yourself if you throw it while you have a ballistic shield equipped.
>Vox engines don't set off AT mines.
>The QA lead dev in Arrowhead's discord channel lost his official Arrowhead developer tag.
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Honestly in regard to bots I feel like carrying both eat/coommander is almost worth it for the downside just for the sheer random bullshit you gotta put up so you're never really in too many situations with your pants down.
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>>563366478
that is kino
however, it's aids that bodies only despawn when the corpse is no longer in motion, rather than having a set timer, because corpses often bug the fuck out and get desync'd from their hitboxes and have invisible collision that lasts way too long due to this factor
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Slugger should be changed from this miserable idea of a "precision" gamba shotgun with dogshit spread and damage dropoff and turned into something like the double freedom. Aka, a "anything I hit in general just gets fucking deleted" shotgun. It's a slug shotgun, that ball of lead its shooting out is so massive that it should be punching holes in anything you hit with it.
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As is always the case with arrowhead, they snatched defeat from the jaws of victory. Warstrider lethality should have been left alone; literally all they needed were AP3 weakpoints where the obvious vent weakspots were, and to fix/tweak the interaction with blowing up the grenade launcher pods not transferring any damage to main or whatever it was. From what I recall the grenade launcher pods were supposed to explode and inflict heavy damage to the warstrider upon being destroyed, and it had a heatsink modeled up between the grenade pods, so it was fairly clear that you were supposed to destroy both pods to damage or destroy the heatsink, either killing the warstrider outright, or putting it into a bleedout state like hulks.
Everyone with half a brain was just asking for them to work the same way other bot heavy units were designed, so it was a high risk high reward encounter. But no, AH caved to redditors who were getting 1shot in light armor running around without any cover, and they made the laser cannons less deadly and the grenades do no damage.
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if you get killed by cluster bombs you're a shitter
>stand next to a horde of medium enemies doing fuck all
>see a red beam appear infront of you
>don't take cover
>don't dive
>don't pre stim
DOOOD I DIED WHAT THE FARK
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>I missed the urbankino
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>>563362778
>so did I, the pack isn't going anywhere. if what other people do is living in your head rent free,
Your tone is telling me that you're saying this because you want to feel like you have "power" or some measure of control over someone and that you care more about your izzat than having a good faith conversation.
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>>563371424
not autistic enough
they're performative autist to be quirked up
i'm sorry bro watching gun tubers and working on your car isn't autism those are pretty run of the mill interests
tendies are the genuine article
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>Pyro/Demolition
>Heavy/Scout
>Sniper/Spy
>Medic/Engineer
FUN lobby is here.
steam://joinlobby/553850/109775241681769243/76561198120804312
(These mods are optional.)
>https://www.nexusmods.com/helldivers2/mods/11353?tab=files
>https://www.nexusmods.com/helldivers2/mods/2074?tab=files
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>Eagle storm griefs your commando mission, because the AI instantly aggros to your position the microsecond an eagle storm hits an enemy.
These devs do not play their game so little that they completely ignore, forget, and let all these stupid interactions happen. Fucking absentee swigger gamedevs.
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why does a 50g projectile traveling at mach fuck you have the same penetration properties as a chucked spear?
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>>563372020
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>check naughty mods
>99% just absurd proportions
I just want a fucking skintight armor
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>call in eagle 500kg on hulk
>ball lands a foot and a half away
>huge fucking explosion, 8 kills of other shit around it
>smoke cloud
>hulk steps out of it shooting at you
I swap between "holy shit, what an aura moment", and "holy shit, that's so fucking annoying"
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kinda wish the helmet color a bit less blue and more black so it could blend better.
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>>563372020
>pic
As just a regular citizen of super earth, which invasion would be the absolute worst to survive from? This assumes you don't die immediately.
>Bots
>Bugs
>Squids
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>>563364313
I only use the coyote or marksman since everything in control group is shit excluding the warp pack, so yeah marksman or grenadier
Love the explosive sniper and haven’t bought the crossbow yet, I was grinding medals for the warp pack and now that I got it I think I am going after dust devils next
The Halo war bond is tempting but I have no incentive to buy super shekels now that I haven’t even unlocked all the stuff I need from dust devils
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it's a cauldron for ants
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Name your faction 4 dreamland pie in sky ideas. And for that matter name your factions 5, 6, 7s and 8s because why the hell not.
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The problem with war striders isn't that they're hard, It's that they're poorly designed. They fold like paper towels to any AT and are barely a nuisance if you bring the RR or Quasar but are extremely obnoxious to kill with AP4. The eye weak spots mean nothing except for the railgun, good luck landing your 4-5 shots with your AMR or AC while you're getting chain ragdolled by 3 of them. They're barely a threat so their main purpose is to annoy players with grenade spam that ragdolls you every ~10 seconds. They're garbage, they limit your loadout by their mere existence and any seed without them instantly makes bots 5 times more fun to play.
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Grok said plant/mushroom aliens, so basically orksHere’s a solid original concept: the Verdant Scourge (or “Flora Rebellion” in Super Earth propaganda). This would be a rampant, invasive biomechanical plant-based faction—think hyper-evolved carnivorous flora fused with corrupted Super Earth tech and organic mutagens. Not just walking trees or simple vines, but a living, adaptive ecosystem that “infests” the battlefield, turning planets into overgrown death jungles. It leans into environmental horror and adaptive defense, forcing Helldivers to fight both enemies and the mutating terrain itself. Perfect satire: Super Earth’s industrial expansion accidentally (or via dissident sabotage) unleashed a bio-weapon that backfired into sentient greenery demanding “freedom from managed democracy.”
Core Playstyle Shift
• Thematic niche: Mid-to-long range area control with heavy emphasis on environmental hazards and adaptive mutations. Missions feel like clearing a hostile, living forest where cover can turn against you, visibility is choked by spore clouds, and “safe” zones sprout traps mid-fight. It rewards fire/incendiary loadouts, area-denial stratagems, and quick objective pushes before the map itself overwhelms the team.
• Why it fits as fourth: Bugs are raw biological aggression up close. Bots are metallic shooting lines. Squids are tricky high-tech disruption. Plants would be slow-building but relentless “living siege” — they entrench, spread, and evolve resistances over the mission, creating escalating tension rather than instant chaos or precision duels.
• Balance hook: Fewer elite “tank” units than bots or bugs, but stronger focus on debuffs (spore blindness, rooting slows, corrosive sap that eats armor over time) and map-altering effects. No mind control or teleport spam—pure territorial takeover that punishes static camping and rewards aggressive pruning.
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I would watch a shit helldivers stage play musical
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Oooo. Death Planet reference. Let's sweeten the pot.Not just flora, fauna too. The entire damn planet is psionic. Perhaps the key to unlocking the Void if they don't already have it written in. Doesn't have an established planet, but instead "infects" other planets. So you could get a planet on any front suddenly going "ape shit" verdant because a few kilos of malevolent biomatter spread there. Adds hostile fauna and extra environmental hazards that both the player, and that sectors enemies have to deal with. Nightmare mode: bug planets. Bugs get folded into the psychic gestalt. Start having to deal with shit like bamfing Hunters/Stalkers. Squids least effected by it, seem to coexist with it to a limited degree. Bots'd be funny as fuck, but could be the basis for some serious oh shit industrial defoliators.Probably never happen, but it'd be an awesome way to jam in another staple sci-fi military vs planet fuck trope that is criminally underdone.
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Boss only faction which is a goo that's stolen helldivers/bot/bugs technology/bodies and frankenstein them together. Basically every minute you get attacked by something that's on par with a boss tier enemy. Sort of like how the Vox vents work but more complicated.
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Squids obviously. Bugs will just eviscerate you in under a second then eat your corpse. Bots will shoot you dead then grind your corpse into mulch to tube-feed their cyborg masters. But squids go out of their way to target civilians to turn into voteless.
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>>563379290
Premise 1 that I always recommend when this OC factions question comes up is to suggest an Alien faction who are primitives. Proper spearchuckers who by some mix of cleverness, kitbashing, outside help, maybe a bit of ancient aliens technology and a lot of SE’s own underestimation sees them be able to hit above their weight class and lodge a spear through our throats.
Premise 2: Rebels and/or another human republic that are ‘actually’ the good guys who SE pretends to be and who ape modern (Swedish) armies for tactic inspirations.
>>563381519
Skull Robots screaming their heads off with buzzsaws and flamethrowers for arms is not aesthetically in same ballpark as space NATO!
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I know it’s all baity quip to a tiny nugget of art in the corner and but genuinely what media exists in this world that ‘isn’t’ a reiterations of other stuff.
>>563380501
Kill yourself for that is superbly lame.
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>>563382219
>primitives
This but lizards instead of furshit. Praise Kroak.
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>another episode of bugchaser goyim can't understand why loadout checks are shit design because they never play without bringing braindead meta gear
>in fact, they can't even FATHOM what a hypothetical non-meta-gear loadout or mission might look like
>to such a degree that they think war striders are complained about because they're "hard"
For your next move you'll conflate a gear check with a skill check and act like it's somehow an act of intelligence or skill to click "EAT" on the loadout screen every single mission for hundreds of hours.
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>>563382105
3/4 still, join
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Indistinguishable
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>>563382105
full
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It's not that good
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>>563383454
>pull trigger
>PEW
>shit dies
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>>563383454
BAD AT THE GAME
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>laser
>knockback
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>>563383795
Yes, that's exactly what I said it doesn't have
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Is this a real add
>new capcha
holy shit nigger what are you doing
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>>563383795
>robutt sloppa poster
I want you to know your days are numbered, one day I will find you and I will kidnap you, I will lock you up like a dog in my basement, not before I chop off both of your arms and legs so you can't run, I will cut off your tongue so you can't scream for help, I will gouge your eyes out so you can't see and I will flay off a piece of your skin every day until you beg me to kill you.
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>>563383795
When lasers are powerful enough they can cause materials they're hitting to vaporize or explode.
The water content in your body would react rather violently if it's being instantly turned to steam.
Even metals can ignite and create self sustaining reactions when heated to appropriate temperatures.
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How handy is Inflammable armor vs incineration corps?
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The main benefit is that a lot of the chip damage that adds up over time becomes negligible, so you don't burn through your stims nearly as quickly. Basically, you can ignore Pyro Troopers and Hulk Firebombers become nuisances. Shotgun Devastators will still one-shot you though.
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Fuck I hate those things the most
Trying the heavy fire armor soon
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How would a laser + backpack support weapon work, should it exist? The easy way out would be Laser Cannon with an extended firing duration or the Quasar with more shots before overheating. Something like the Harvester beam would be cool, a big "fuck you" laser blast but you are locked in to firing the laser for a full 5 or 10 seconds or something.
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Solo blitz can be impossible to full map clear solo depending on map seed and luck, its really not designed for one player but everything besides main objective is optional anyway so its not like you NEED to do it all.
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The hive world mission with the refinery and 2 flags are so fucking brutal, i love it
We got out with like 1500 kills
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>Savanaah
>Forest
>Snowy Forest
The new biomes coming this month and next one according to the roadmap aka 3 in total. For those that missed it, the only new thing on the roadmap is the Spore burst Bile Titan. Besides these confirmed things, there's also the leaked warbond stuff like the presumed "mech pilot" themed one coming later at the end of April or Early May.
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>>563382943
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My ideal would be that the backpack contains extra ICE cells that get automatically ejected as they're expended.
1. A backpack-fed Laser Cannon would perform similarly to the existing Laser Cannon (maybe underslung instead of over-the-shoulder), and the backpack has a set of linked heatsinks. The currently-used heatsink functions as normal, it heats up while firing and cools down when not, but if it burns out then the backpack automatically switches to the next heatsink in line and ejects the burnt-out one, which you replace by grabbing ammo as normal. So they function sort of like the HP bar in Escape from Butcher Bay, if you practice fire discipline you can avoid burning out heatsinks but if you do go all-out the backpack allows for continuous fire unlike the current Laser Cannon.
2. A backpack-fed Quasar Cannon could just give it a moving-reload functionality. You still charge the weapon to fire a shot, but after each shot the ICE automatically burns out and you have to actuate a mechanism on the backpack to eject the burnt-out heatsink and load the next one, which can be done while moving. As with all backpack-fed weapons you just pick up fresh heatsinks by grabbing ammo. So this version would allow you to fire consecutive shots with the Quasar Cannon, circumventing the current problem of waiting for the cooldown while also giving it a moving-reload advantage that puts it above the Spear, Recoilless and Epoch.
As much as I would like a backpack-fed Sickle, the Maxigun already exists. And I don't think turning the entire backpack into a single huge heatsink would work very well.
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>>563382105
GGs. Mvch virtve was cvltivated. The Qi flow is good and the ancestors were pleased.
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>>563386460
>gundam sneed
get this shit off my screen NOW
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>>563382105
ggz frens, forgor to clip the dss killstreak so just be happy that it happened or however it goes
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>>563386740
Kind of - at a certain point it feels like the show forgets the implication of having superhumans outside of moments for the MC and a few other hangers on to swag out and be powerful. Except for when it needs to clumsily talk about racism, where one race are eugenic big brain boys and girls (coordinators) and one are normal humans.
Speaking of mecha the other day I thought it would be funny if there was a giant mech suit you had to have three helldivers pilot together, like the getter robo.
I've just always wanted a mech in a multiplayer game that requires team co-ordination to use...
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Cards on the table, Seed/Seed Destiny are my least favourite gundam anon. Turn-A is my favourite. Still I was of the mind of trying to see every Gundam series. I stopped around about AGE.
SEED is fucking stupid but became the fun kind of melodramatic after a certain point. Destiny almost reaches that point but never quite gets there, it's just dumb.
Freedom however was the fun kind of melodramatic the whole way through, thoroughly enjoyed it.
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/hdg/ actually fights enemies, pubbies just run away from them until they become a problem that leads to their death.
I pretty much always get the highest kill count in pubbie D10's, but I'm always middling in /hdg/ lobbies.
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Playing with D7 pubbies would make any game hard desu.
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Brought 3 lvl 20-25s to D8 Marfark
They did alright
Kinda hard teaching how to kill vox
But they did fine
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>get ragdolled
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>>563390928
I know that if we just complete enough menial tasks they'll add a fully playable unique jurassic park inspired map to the game where we can fight escaped terminids and accomplish objectives to put them back in captivity. Surely our toil and investment won't just be answered with a low-effort paragraph of text which is ultimately meaningless...
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4 in 1
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Thoughts on this?
https://x.com/Iron_S1ghts/status/2033327216180744530
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Only thing I'm worried about concerning Arrowhead/Sony is them shutting this down.
They could feel threatened by it especially if people could just play pirated copies on it and get all warbonds for free.
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>>563396016
sending Pinkertons after the guy
https://www.polygon.com/23695923/mtg-aftermath-pinkerton-raid-leaked-c ards/
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>>563396603
that's what u get for cheating on ur husband bitch
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how have the pinkertons not been eradicated at this point?
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>>563396603
>bugdivers thinking they are hot shit on D10 until they are faced with D7 bots
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>The eye weak spots mean nothing except for the railgun, good luck landing your 4-5 shots with your AMR or AC while you're getting chain ragdolled by 3 of them
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Another game successfully stopped from being killed. Other than that it doesn't really interest me, playing it would not feel like the "real" thing much like going back to Classic WoW, as fun as that still ended up being.
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>America's a 3rd world country for anyone that's not part of the 1%
Change that to every country.
The european ultrawealthy certainly don't need to be subjected to the third world rapist ghettos they've created everywhere.
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Since the limbs are 100% explosive immune, it's the violent ragdolling that does it so it's a double roll for the hellbomb I think. Mine got done through a tank that barely missed and sent me into a rock at mach 5.
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This isn't the place for this.
I agree with you, but America's much worse.
Nothing happened to people implicated in the files and the feds are literally openly covering for them.
At least Prince Andy lost his title and some Frenchie got arrested, I forget what he was.
Arabian governments are similar to the US but they are in bed with the US gov so it makes sense.
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I could see that.
>survive getting everything broken
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Failed it the moment it started.
Difficulty 30 and 18 invasions on the first fucking day and the 5 gorillion extractions would have been difficult even without the defense campaigns drawing away players.
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>>563402532
Oh yeah even funnier
>they lost ze planet and are taking it back?
>activate ze bug SO
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>>563382219
I'd really like your premise 2.
>trenches pre-built and full of troops
>mg nests everywhere, sniper towers that WILL ohk you, bring the AMR and counter-snipe please
>gas or incendiary artillery for area denial
>more numerous and lethal shooty bots with less armor and explosives
I mean fuck just make bot subfactions like they did with mindless masses/appropriators, and give me an overwhelming number of mg and rocket troopers, tanks, gunships, more conventional baddies, and I'll be happy.
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Ideas for new exosuits:
De-tyranniser
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>flamethrower
Progressor
>laser cannon with armour penetration 5, overheat mechanic and a chargeup
>either an arc thrower or a large AoE plasma cannon
Redeemer
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>Join D7 bot to see what's up
>500kg, Orbital Laser, Rocket Sentry,
My God
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>call orbital laser
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weird because I've seen lots of people talk about it and it has been the case every time I've tried it the past month. It simply doesn't work
I am not much of a laser user however
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ztmsXHFLJtg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=srNIcSOW7BM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjmTkKL-Hk4 I ain't touching the shitbox mechs until they buff the health/armor
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sounds so similar to Painkiller hmmmm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jI2xB1JbamA
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500kg sucks shit but i still bring it every now and then and i couldnt even tell you why
you'd think Rocket Sentry would be good but it being indirectly nerfed by the Bastion patch makes it ok at best
>Laser
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the only thing you need to keep in mind is to stop holding down M1 when you dive backwards for a moment so you don't flame yourself
also, 95% fire resistant armor so i can be immune in my own flames when
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>still no seperate keybinds for Throw and Detonate
>have to manually swap still because swedecode
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hold on let me open my game to see if i still can do it offline i've hosted a few games before
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huh would you look at that you really can't do it while offline my best guest is that you have to do what >>563408681 said
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Might try that
>>563407568
I get hit from side usually, I do use the flame resistant armor and know about that backdive.
OTOH It could just be I need more experience with this, so maybe I'll stick with it a bit more.
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Well you see you REALLY need to be able to "aim" with the C4 for some reason. Putting the detonate button on Right Click or Left Trigger just wouldn't make any sense. If you were media literate you would understand this.
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Koko loko doko soko lobby
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>6 sub objective PO
>Bug and bot MO still going
Im tired boss
Going to sit today out
Probably did a whole percent on each on my own
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Just like with the animations, you will barely notice it unless you pay attentiont to it in the first place with all the shit going on, and even then it sometimes wont play
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>aiming doesnt even have the decency of giving you a predicted path
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>lobby instantly posted and filled
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>He dumped it?
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are the super corpos really so lost in the sauce that they don't care that there's an existential threat to our existence? Like, I can follow the Swedish "lol so ebil corporatism-facism amirite guyz?", but either they've also taken the kool-aid and believe "Oh we can win whenever we want." OR the writing is just absurdly bad (likely this).
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nahhh this is worse vro
the american hegemony is shattered and now the whole world thinks we're child eating pedophiles because our justice system is completely worthless and only functions to defend our oligarchs
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I think you kinda need a grasp on how spread out a galactic war is
We have millions of divers and SEAF dying every day
Can't always risk top of the line items on guys who live for 9 minutes on average
Plus every diver gets their own Super Destroyer
Shit is costly while maintaining comfy Super Earth life
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well said propaganda commander, remind me of this when we lose super earth to
T̵̛̖̗̦̣̮̦̹͙̦͈͎̪̺̫͖̃̀̈̄́͛̏̔̀͛͒̈́̽̎͂͜E̸̻̝͖̦̥͓͕͎͇͔̝̦̳̫̯͚̎͊͋̋͐̑̑̂͒̈́̚͝Ř̴͎̹̽ ̢͇͕̟̫͕̳̺̜̺͓͕̟R̶̗̼͋̔̚͝Ȉ̵̧̧͈͈͓̹̳̠̺͔͜ ̩F̵̧̛̣́͆̆̑͌̓͌͒Y̵̡̪̭̳̺͉̭̭̠͆̃̕̚ͅİ̵̐̄ ̼̠͈̯̒́̈́̈́̈́́̄͜N̴̩̉̈́̉̽̆̂̂͆̒̽͋̂͒͠͠G̵̼̉͜ ̧̧̺̞̯ ̶̡̧̧͔͕̻̜̻̘̟̭̝̘̝̐͘Ë̴̩͍̤̦̤̮̭̳́͂ͅL̷͆̆͋ ̧̢̟͈̻̳̥̱͇̭͔̟D̷̡̜͇̗̱͕̟̺̈́̃̂͋̏͊̌̂́͋͑̕̚ ̡̺̭̞͎Ȓ̴̛̪̄̂̾̆̄̌̈́͒̊̎̕͝͝I̸̋̇̀͂̈͐̑͐̍͝ ̨̣͉̠̰̰̥̰̦̿͋̈́̈́̀͜͜T̸̢̡̡͇͕͈̺̠͖͍͇̈́͗͋͆͆C ̸̢̯̤̠͔͍̮̥̘̘̖̺͍́͐͘Ḩ̴̫͈͓̝̊͌ ̵̩̮͇̰͚́͒̆̽̓̎̚͝H̵̢̱͍̯͍̦̠̜̤͛̐̽͑O̸̍̾̾̕ ̧͈̳͚̞̖̝̖̍͒͒́͌̈́̂̏̐ͅR̸̛̞̮͚̰̫̭͓͈̞̿̈́̍̈͝ R̵̳̞͔̭̦̖͈͍̩̠̱̫̜͍͆͂́͂͑ͅȮ̸̢͙̙̽̔R̷͛̑̚ ̨̡̢̢̖͕̞̮͚̻̱͎̍̈́̏̄̓͛͊͊͑̑̓̒S̷̞̭͖̹̺̪̊̔͜ ͇̠̺̻͍̜̺̫ͅ ̴̤͋F̷̛̪͐̃̀͋̀Ŗ̶̰͖̟̥̥͋̃͛̇̂̉̐͐̑͘̕͠Ỏ̷ ̧̛̭̥̤̤̱͔̮̑̋̀͌́̇̈́̓̀̈͐͝M̴̾́̐̀̓̓̎͒́͑̃͘ ̹͕̣̯̻̻͈̠̺̥̯͔̃̈ ̷̢̹͙̯̫͇̯͔̘̤̝̗̎̀̒̐̿́͛̊͘̚͘ͅB̵̢̙̩͔̹͇̞̀ ̢̺̫̫̩̥̼̩̜Ẹ̶̰͖̮̘͉͉͕̙̀̈̓͐͗̾̂̇͒̀̏̚͝͝͠ ̢̥͖̝Y̷̢̡̡̢̱̖̦͕̘̟̮͇̘̺̦͊̔̇̽Ŏ̵̧̰̙̮̮̻̩ ͍̥N̸̡̖̣͎̙̞̻̟̯̮͚̈́͋̓̈́̋̔̋̂̐͂D̴̋̏̓̿͑̓̄͝ ̨̩̥̰͎̣̟̻͓̠̝͕̪̰͎͑̔͜͝ ̷̜͍͙̱̆̐̿́̈́̏͛́̾̋͋Ṭ̷̳̎͂̍͗̓̇͐̌̌̃̓͝͝H̶ ̗̠̖̣̓͐̀̂͒̑̚͜͠E̶̟̯͈̜͂̌͗̈́̒̂͗͝ ̷̧͚͉̉̐̽́̎̇́̏̎͘̕̕S̵͓̪͗̆̾͊̀͊̉̉̃̈͘̕͝͠͝ ͎T̵͈̭̬͈̤̩̦͇̝̯͙͆͋̃̏̋͑̓̽͐͗̚͝͠A̶͑̊̽̆͘͠ ̧̧̛̼̥͇̤̪͍̖̰̝͈̽́͒́͜R̴̡͎͍̰͎͉̟͉͓̀̿̈̀̀ͅ ̡̡̱̪̤͚͜Ş̵͚͉͔̯̬̫̙̗͓̺̦̙̹͉̳͇̀
Once the Void gets to super earth. We need Termicide 2.0. We need MORE super destroyers. Hell, build ANOTHER Star of Peace. The entire weight of the Super Earth economy is profiting from the war, but it's not behind the war.
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The reason you are sent to the surface of a planet is to act as a targeting system for the super destroyer, because you are cheaper than deploying a triangulation system. The B-01 armor is made from repurposed super destroyer hull waste. You are frequently given experimental weapons with little regard to safety of the user.
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>are the super corpos really so lost in the sauce that they don't care that there's an existential threat to our existence?
Do you think corpos give a fuck about normies dying en masse? Back when scientists discovered that cigarettes cause lung cancer the tobaccoo industry literally wrote a book on how to run misinformation campaigns to undermine science so they could keep selling their death sticks despite knowing full well that they're pure cancer
Line must go up, no matter the cost
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Of course they don't give a fuck about people, just look at the Helldivers. BUT, this is an existential threat to even "Line go up". It's like Squidigi Squidgione decided to shoot the CEO of STAHL arms in the middle of 5th avenue on Super Earth. The profits themselves are in danger because (YOU) are now in danger.
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>this is an existential threat to even "Line go up".
So is man-made climate change, doesn't stop the fossile fuel industry from repeating the tobacco industry playbook to keep their line going up.
Corpos do not give a fuck. They would nuke earth for mammon if they knew they could just settle on another planet afterwards
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>most free nation on earth
>forces it's young men brave enough to sign on for service to die for israel
>dystopian facist corpo state """satire"""
>soldiers are granted the freedom to choose where they want to fight at all times
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Climate-change is slow enough (relative to line go up) for the sociopathic to ignore.
>they would nuke the earth for mammon if they knew
Yeknow, now THAT'S a good point. We really could LOSE Super Earth, and they would sell commemorative "EAGLE SWEAT - SCENT OF LOST FREEDOM" to make up the sales difference.
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So we do eat Terminids right
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SE is a utopian vision because it depicts a society where you're allowed to be proud of yourself, your government and your people, there are legitimate threats to your way of life that would be measurably worse than the status quo, and the state is only trying to fuck you over some of the time.
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>Breaker Incendiary 2025-05-13
>Removed fire element from pellets.
>Reduced status strength from 100 to 0.6
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Undocumented change btw
They removed the ability of the Inc Breaker to set anything below a Charger on fire and buffed its fire damage :)
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The equipment is not tested before given to the helldivers.
Exploding mechs. Anti gravity eruptor explosions. DSS orbital bombardment. Sentry targeting systems. Faulty thermites. Faulty armor. Poorly constructed 500kg payloads.
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I dont mind being a solodiver but dont force me to be one!
They all left me while I did the ICBM alone
Glad they trust me but cmonn
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They followed me there
I was a late joiner and the host just went around doing subs
Nothing wrong with that but his goons just followed him
I asked them to help but they all just did the little red spots
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>throw down strafing run in front of big cluster of bots and 10 meters away from closest teammate
>suddenly he starts running towards enemies with his ultimatum
>oh he will probably stop at my BIG BRIGHT RED stratagem beacon just to be a big closer to enemy for his ultimatum shot since he is lvl 120
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>room full of alpha commanders in a cave mega nest
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>2026
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gucci is time to move on wait a minute you are a fucking sperg kill yourlself brown nigger
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Only 20 medals till I can get the spear gun, is it good? Been grinding clanker missions for the major order and I think we’re getting the bug planet sample order done
Considering siege breakers for my fourth since I got 600 super shekels and can unlock some from other warbonds soon
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>join d10 bots pub
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>>563420324
Bug heads are weird like that. I'm surprised it's a weakpoint when losing it clearly doesn't stop any important functions. Headless bugs still have perfect sight, hearing and can call in breaches. Headless bugs are somehow more dangerous than the version with a head. Bugs should just start making a headless strain.
Very realistic, AH.
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>>563422530
It's both alright and bad at the same time. It has extremely high projectile drag which means terrible damage at outside spitting distance, middling damage up close and a small ammo supply. It's like a safe mode railgun that deploys a gas grenade wherever it strikes. Good with the supply pack alongside it, pretty bad without it.
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>Only 20 medals till I can get the spear gun, is it good.
No, not really. It's basically a really low powered railgun with a smidge of a gas grenade attached to the tip. It's horrible against heavy enemies and can't deal with crowds effectively because the gas puff is tiny. Its one saving grace is the 30 demolition force so it can close spawners, that's about it.
You're honest to God just better off taking the gas grenades and the supply pack if you want the same thing but better, because gas grenades have a larger and much more prolonged gas effect, while also destroying spawners as well.
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>>563422930
the gall of a poortuguese afro-jewish mutt trying to use someone's origin as an insult
the fact that you talk so much shit here and incessantly shitpost on cooldown yet won't utter a word in lobbies is frankly hilarious.
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>>563424403
if you're running out of ammo in the 2 and a half minutes it takes to call in another resupply you need to aim better, use your stratagems better, or just take a supply pack or an ammo efficient weapon such as a laser weapon
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>>563421945
If you're bad with ammo management you need to just accept only taking laser weapons, or use Siege Ready, or take the Supply Pack.
Stealthfagging is also solid for ammo conservation, the Censor even after the ammo fix is really good in regards to being efficient.
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>>563413475
Why would you be proud of faceless branches of government that order you to sit in a freezer till your time to die comes?
Especially when all the problems your sent to erase were caused by said government.
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>>563417449
GGs.
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>>563425149
Meant for this
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ggs
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>>563423609
>shitskin too retarded to realise that if you block someone you can’t see their messages
Lmao, anyway.
Spamming the thread for 8 months didn’t do anything.
You lost. You got RAPED. You messed with the wrong BVLL, NIGGA. I own you, bitch.
Now the only thing left for you is to seethe and smash that report button thinking it will do anything.
AHAHAAHHAHA DELICIOUS BROWN TEARS.
Awwww are you gonna cwy shitskin chan? Gonna piss your pants again?
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>>563422530
I think siege breakers is kind of overrated. The only thing I kind of care about in it is the trident, rest is whatever. Some people swear by the leveller for taking out voxes, but I honestly prefer doing that with strafing runs or gatling barrages, and other than that I never hear anyone praise the leveller.
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No, it's an anthro.
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Doubtful, I don't think the devs remember certain passives exist, they're too focused on making new ones, plus I think they're opposed to adding any more of the "plot armor" passive considering their attitude lately, considering people have been ripping into them for their comments on the OTF giving players a minor morale buff like reload speed or stamina regen not being "realistic"
>>563426708
I thought this was a diver whose face got sat on by a bot with a huge ass from the thumbnail, like that wax squidward meme
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>>563364313
I guess chaff diver
I bring a stalwart, and a dog, and gas grenades, with only an eruptor and maybe an orbital laser for emergency anti-heavy
That's squids and bugs, which is most of what I've been doing lately because I find vox spam to be tedious. On bots I go more anti tank normally
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bug
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>>563417449
wht are u a shitter?
Bulwark
bulwark
become unstoppable
wt gems u got bithc?
strafing run
quusar
120 mm
Supply pack
stims, boolets, nades evething you ever wantedn...
Eruptor
thermites
That means DEMOCRATIC detomation bicthes
IE-12 Righteous the best looking helmet in the game.
and dont fking forget ur ultimatum
well what is it? are you cool yet?
its time to fucking pwn some lobbies
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>>563426913
just wear armors that prevent chest hemorrhaging, citizen :^)
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>>563427396
gg but I can't play. Bald midget is doing his best to destroy the internet in this 4th world shithole.
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>>563432754
They don't understand how anything works, my dude. It's console brownoids, weed brains, dadgamers, and turd worlders. They dive the planet or faction they like or just press quickplay that's the end of it.
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>>563430125
webm?
>>563432754
normies don't want to do research on how the galactic war works, they want to unwind and play a bideo bame and MAYBE feel like they're contributing
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Mechbond soon, trust the plan.
https://youtu.be/RfC00GUQ-9w?si=gVGsQEfi3-RRHOIr
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>Decide to have some fun and play with the starter loadout
>Get kicked from the game
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REEEEEE
when will this marvel rival shit go away
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>>563435483
he's talking about it popping up when you search for hdg in the catalog (there's a youtube link in the OP that has it)
this is easily solved by searching for /hdg instead, or just not being an autistic retard who cares about such things
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>>563438906
We don’t have blacks we have racially vague Mediterraneans.
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>>563440187
Quasar if your IQ is less than 75
Epoch if your IQ is above 120
EAT if you are a good person and love your team
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>>563440234
>War Strider launches grenade volley to force you to re-position
>make zero effort to move, lying prone next to at least two grenades
>get punished for it like the idiot you are
>"M-M-MALICIOUS SWEDISH CODING!!!!!!!!1111111"
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>>563441049
It would be even worse than the current maxigun regardless of how much ammo it has.
>tons of ammo
>doesn't fuck with your movement
>can be reloaded while moving
The Stalwart only stands to lose from being given a backpack.
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>>563441627
Crouch/prone and Fortified/Engineering Kit severely reduce the effects of recoil. And just the mere act of aiming your weapon (no need for first-person) also halves all recoil.
>>563441798
You're forgetting the Eruptor, which has such a low ROF that recoil literally doesn't matter. Angled foregrip in that case is literally a pure upgrade, same with literally any of the alternate scope options.
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>>563441868
That is exactly why it works.
Any weapon you're actually supposed to spray at the enemies has to have medium pen or it will suffer against hordes of chaff that always have medium armored enemies in them.
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swiggers need to pay me reparations in the form of 500 extra rounds for my maxigun to make up for me getting hit by hunters phasing through terrain and wasting bullets hitting invisible bodies.
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>he fell for the maxigun meme
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>maxigun
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>>563440187
>QC
gucci shitskin moment, plain bad
>EAT
good supplementary AT, poor main choice
>Epoch
close to being good, needs one more shot per mag with no other changes
>AMR
needs a third person reticle and two more shots per mag
>machine guns
Stalwart is a meme that forces rundiving, MG requires a supply pack to fulfill the proper machine gunner experience and the HMG needs a higher mag cap
For me, it's still the AMR.
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>>563441428
EATs are supposed to be taken as an AT supplement to your existing support weapon. The commando is "better" if you're going to go without a support weapon because you can essentially keep both EATs worth on your back at the same time and carry it with you. Two commando rockets hit the same breakpoints as one EAT so it's not really better call in for call in. Shorter cooldown with the EAT means you don't really need to carry it on your back all the time even if you're going to use it as your only support weapon.
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>Two commando rockets hit the same breakpoints as one EAT
depends entirely on what you are shooting at. charger and bile titan heads sure it's the same, but charger asses? EAT can get 2, commando can kill 4. tank heat sinks? EATs 2, commando 4, the front of a tank? EATs 1, commando 2
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>Maxigun on Omicrom
>Swarmed
>Brings Cremator instead
This rules
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>MMG sister still coping about xis weapon becoming obsolete
Sorry, sister. The ammo buff to the Maxigun was the last ACK in the coffin for the MMG sisterhood.
The only way for you to keep up now is to use stratagems that give you inflated kill counts like the jeetdog, niggerspark grenade, flying nigger grenade and hellniggerbomb.
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>solotranny
>times reinforcing : 2
The Raped
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>>563449549
>Vox rockets are avoidable voidzones.
>Vox cannons kill you with the whole volley, they telegraph the start of the burst and give you time to dive/stim/both.
>Borg shotguns are supposed to kill you if you let them get close
>Heavy Fire shotgun devs are RNG and oneshot all armors, even heavy fire.
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>xhe admits xhe uses the SP
not the own you think it is,,,
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>>563450337
city maps are lame and gay
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>>563449427
It's Extra Padding, Ballistic Padding, or Fortified or bust for medium armor. Your biggest possible advantage is having baseline heavy armor stats combined with the increased speed.
Bog standard B-01 remains one of the best sets in the game.
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>>563450269
Your average brownoid doesn't have enough IQ to position properly to fire the shot without getting interrupted.
The Quaso admittedly got power crept hard by Ultimatum, so there aren't a lot of reasons to bring it nowadays except bot blitzes for outpost snipes.
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>>563450851
nope, lasers alert enemies from the same distance as their gunpowder counterparts. Unless there's a specific energy weapon that acts differently. Also no clue if arc or stun weapons are considered silent.
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>>563446667
I did a little investigating in a d7.
This was the only instance I found in 30 minutes of throwing pods next to mines.
Again it was the AC pod and outside of a town wall. None of the sentries or resupply pod did it, but who knows, nigga.
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>>563450856
unflinching isn't bad either with the extra 25 armor
it's not as good in direct combat, but it's a nice 'light' medium armor with some extra utility
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Mando's biggest disadvantage over EAT is targets that require two rockets into a specific weakspot but stagger from the first one such that you can't immediately blast out the second shot. Most notable example being bile titans.
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d10 bots or bugs console fags wlecome to join in
steam://joinlobby/553850/109775241782808236/76561198122378705 friend code #9660-5330
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>>563390928
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>full
I JUST CLICKED PLAY, GOD DAMN IT
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host your own lobby guys you are already halfway fvll
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>>563450856
this
medium armor's only real value at this point is it can be turned into faster heavy armor. that's the best way to look at it, like e.g. extra padding imagine it as a 150 heavy set with the perk "increased mobility" or something. because otherwise a bog standard 100 armor with no other defensive buffs doesn't have any meaningful breakpoints over light armor.
nobody seems to have realized nobody really runs medium siege ready, they all still use the light or heavy sets.
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>quickplay marfark
>commando op
>zero reinforcements left, 0 objectives done
>leave
>quickplay marfark
>flag raise
>site overrun with voxes and cyborgs
>few or no reinforcements left
>leave
>quickplay marfark
>nobody has AT
>leave
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To that anon I spoke to a week or two ago about the plasma repeater and plasma rifle; jeez, I didn't realize how bad it washttps://youtu.be/j0LC9Y62T_o?t=1755
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>a bog standard 100 armor with no other defensive buffs doesn't have any meaningful breakpoints over light armor.
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>>563445862
promise no shitposting, now
38 shots fired, 9 missed the rock completely. Each frame is the moment of impact as seen by the red spark effect. The end of the webm is a composite of all frames. The red dot was the point of aim 1 frame before firing. Keep in mind this includes drop so the cluster of shots will be notably lower than the point of aim at this range. In the case of missed shots their position is taken 10 frames later as that was a very consistent timing from firing to impact for the shots that did hit.
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>>563455109
kek but the spread is totally fine for shooting hulk eyes guise the epoch is actually good
thank you for taking the time to make that anon
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>>563450092
The real Swedish vehicle is actually superior to the Bastion. It can aim down way lower and can rotate faster with a fucking autoloader. It's actually one of the best modern turretless tank post WW2. Swiggers can't even glaze their own vehicles right
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>>563456954
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>>563449427
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>drop into a lobby with chink names
>come out of my hellpod
>dozens of resupply boxes and floating question marks surrounding me
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>>563458837
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Give me a reason to use anything other than
>sickle(bots)/trident(bugs)
>talon
>+2 grenade armour
>impact grenades
>120mm
>precision strike
>quasar
>shield bots, rover bugs
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>>563458837
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>>563459284
because the sickle fucking sucks, the scythe is unironically better than it if you still want a laser weapon
also, impact nades? what is this, 2024?
and OPS too huh... and what's your reasoning for that one?
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>>563454880
>crossplay turned on
you mean how 99% of people play quickplay because it's on by default and turning it off only lets you matchmake with people who also have it off?
>>563454967
based but cringe, cringe but based. weapon balancing aside, the vibe was fantastic(admittedly, I barely ever played it on a friend's 360, and by the time MCC came out I only played multiplayer twice, usually sticking to campaign or firefight)
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I like using a marksman rifle (been fond of the diligence recently) and the dagger pistol paired with thermites. Recoilless, AT sentry, shield, and 500kg to fill out my stratagems. Sometimes I use the strafing run but it feels bugged.
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>>563460385
10 is soloable, but any time I see people making gameplay videos of it, they take the entire 45 minute timer and evac with the emergency shuttle
It depends on your skill level, but I'd say 7 is comfy solo without missing out on anything combat-wise
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>>563460385
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>>563461612
>he needs crossplay off to get carried
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>>563464272
>laughs in armor matched and 100% durable vs a weapon that shoots 50 cal bullets with only 35 durable damage
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>>563464272
HMG had its durable damage raped despite having hollow point rounds (expanding rounds effective against soft, dense flesh)
as opposed to high AP rounds that penetrate well but comparatively dont do a lot of "damage" because it doesnt expand and tumble around
we here at arrowhead love realism :)
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>walk around a corner and get instantly gaped by two hulks
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>check thread
>0 lobbies
>"alright I'll go pubdiving for a bit while waiting for anons to host"
>3 operations laters
>tired as fuck, can't play anymore
>anons now decided to make a lobby
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>>563461612
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>>563464990
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>>563465386
the entire damage system of the game is needlessly complicated and would require rebuilding from the ground-up if we were to remove durable damage. No one is going to give you an answer with any depth on how to "balance it", but durable damage is indeed retarded and unnecessary. They could have accomplished everything they needed to with one damage number on each weapon paired with armor penetration values, but the more complicated it is and the less of it gets explained to players, the better it is in the mind of a swedish game developer.
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>>563465730
durable damage is a balancing lever.
the liberator concussive has a notably higher durable damage ratio compared to the normal liberator. if they did the same normal damage the lib conc would do nearly double the liberators at 42 durable damage. get rid or durability and now you've lost a feature that helps distinguishing the two. how do you replace that with just armour penetration levels without having a dozen different penetration levels and a sliding scale of damage reduction compared to the "less than = x0, equal to = x0.65, or greater than = x1" system we have now?
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>>563466221
it's a completely unnecessary mechanic that is not explained anywhere which is the whole problem with it
you could balance it with any number of other changes, fire rate, ammo capacity, the actual damage it does, stagger values whatever. No one is picking libconc for the durable damage anyway, most people that play don't even know durable damage is a mechanic in the game
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>>563379290
The crux of adding new factions is that the original three have a huge breadth of concepts and gameplay styles already taken, adding a new faction would encroach on the swarm/shootout/both formula. But I want more factions so lets run with that. Three MORE factions each of which have a similar gameplay style to the first three, but have completely different themes and mechanics.
>Faction 4 - Lizards
Similar to bugs with swarming tactics, but with a higher emphasis on ranged combat, stealth units and structures. These are reptilian pre-FTL primitives with stone age technology, they have swords and shields, bows and arrows, poison darts, slings, battle axes, maybe greek fire. Venom and poison could be cool as a recurring status effect. They get to ride dinosaurs and space dragon. Their heavy units are a combination of huge dinosaurs (sort of like war elephants and actual dragon riders) and siege engines (catapults, tebuchets, ballistas, and so on). Maybe they have acid blood or regenerate health over time to differentiate them from the bugs' head loss gimmick.
>Faction 5 - Dissidents
Similar to bugs with long range combat and less chaff, though comparatively the Dissidents would have more chaff and shittier heavy units, in exchange for having a lot more of them and even deadlier firepower. Replacing the dinky red lasers are genuine bulletfire, shotgun slugs, frag grenades, flak cannons, molotov cocktails and nailbombs. Maybe a few of their special units get their hands on helldiver tech like the laser or plasma weapons. Their heavy units consist of shitty technicals, literally those prius-looking cars you see in SE cities with rocket batteries and machine guns grafted onto the back, in addition to stolen jeeps, exos and swede tanks. All of their chaff act like cyborgs in that they make heavy use of cover. Also they get stratagems too, and will actively freak out and run away when you throw a red at them. Glass cannon bots, essentially.
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addendum.
>Lizards
Also, their reinforcements has their big chieftain units sound a war horn, so kind of a mix between bugs and squids if the overseers could call bug breaches. Maybe they ride in on raptors, or just run over to the sound of the horn from the distance.
>Dissidents
Fuck I meant to say they were like bots mb. Anyway they'd also get snipers and some more variety in chaff compared to the robots. It'd be cool if they were a bizarre fusion of NATO with middle east terrorism (think GLA from generals). It'd be cool if, not only do they steal SE tech, they also steal stuff from adjacent factions on nearby planets. Breaking bugs out of enclosures, recruiting robot/cyborg mercenaries, manic squid cultists, etc.
>Faction 6 - Demons
Aliens from another universe, gameplay is similar to squids. Ideally not too demony, should look more eldritch, maybe they're energy-based, or four dimensional. Chaff if crazy psychic humans going insane, with hatchets and shotguns, while spitting pink energy beams from their fingers that do not damage but make your head explode if they connect for long enough. The "Demons" are almost wendigo-looking things with mouths in their chest and goat-skull faces, that bum rush you with energy swords, and will teleport all over the place, sort of like hunters but with more health. The whole faction should reward reaction-time over accuracy.
Other demons get whips, flails, swarms of bees and flaming ghost skulls or some shit. Transformations, summons and environmental hazards are their recurring elements. Maybe some can time travel and summon clones of themselves mid-battle. Their reinforcements aren't called at all, a bunch of portals just open up in the sky every ~5 minutes at decreasing intervals, and you have to shoot bullets into the portals to close them before too many demons crawl out. Still probably too close to squid cultists in theme but it's the best I could think of.