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Did Zesty win yet?
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incredible OP
now, what's the best way to use the scottish resistance?
like, what's the gameplan?
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set yourself up watching a narrow flank route, place sticky traps in corners or around doorways that your opps have to walk past, and try to knock them back into your traps with the loose cannon
it's almost a purely defensive weapon, so you gotta be able to scram if things start going south
i guess you could also try and be like a bootleg mortar and arc it over cover, spamming a whole area with stickies
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>>563429861
awesome OP sister! the little girl characters are so cute! You forgot your Team Fortress 2 steam group though!
https://steamcommunity.com/groups/TransFurtress2
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Fempyro looks like THIS???
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This is... ALL-CLASS SLOP? MOST OF THE MERCENARIES WOULD NEVER DO THIS!??!
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okay but seriously
where the fuck is the MvM update?
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He's so perfect bros
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many are saying this
also had so much fun playing today, cp_steel is so kino man why can't there be more territorial based maps like this one that encourage fighting for more territories before the main objective.
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It turns out the troons were literally hitler all along
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3 NIGAS
ON CART
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>>563440163
me when libs imply that furry is lgbt
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>>563441862
... are you saying i couldve been a straight furry the entire time?
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>enemy scout tosses milk
>it douses me and my entire team
>entire enemy team has an advantage and now we have to retreat
>I try mad milk
>it crashes on a weird angle of a sloped surface
>I afflict no one with the damn milk
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>>563430184
way too slow to ever be used full time. I only found some success on dustbowl or payload, where I could hold an entire area by myself.
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did they unban you?
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Jarate is just objectively strong. I don't think anyone would argue that. People try to act like Mad Milk is anywhere in the same league is Jarate and its nuts. Never once have I thought "oh no mad milk I better retreat" and no one else in the history of TF2 has thought this.
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I fucking LOVE Mad Milk
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mad milk doesn't help the fight you're currently in, it helps your condition after the fight making you more likely to survive more than one before getting any kind of recovery
mad milk isn't strong like people say because it's only good if you're good enough to consistently get into and survive multiple scraps as Scout without actively relying on health sources
it does not directly negatively impact your opponent in the same way jarate does and can't be considered powerful in the same way jarate is
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>>563430184
>ScoRes
Always charge it up from a distance, it has a faster fire rate but longer arming delay. So as long as you tap and hold m1 very briefly you won't lose much.
Best case scenario of living long enough to set at least two groups of sticky traps. At defense you always want to hold off a main yard and a flank path, which never changes.
At offense, things get twisted you need somewhere to retreat so my choice is setting at least one group of bombs at the mainstream paths behind you before going to the objective, so I have somewhere to retreat.
Second group depends on how well you do in the control point fight; succeed and you want to deter the same path they came from by laying another group of sticky bombs, fail and you retreat to the first group to hold flanks like you are in defense.
I tried the three groups like some anon suggested*cough* Kekliand I failed hard with it. Stick with two groups only.
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>>563451345
im seeing double, do you have anything easier?
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agreed
I don't think I've ever had it save me or my team by healing off the damage dealt to opps under its effect
the only use case I've had success with it is hunting down kunai spies
I mean I guess you could use it when flanking the enemy if there are no hp packs and you get the jump on one guy?
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the reason mad milk sucks in pubs is because the particle effect isn't glaringly obvious
if it was loud enough for the retarded third worlders that make up much of the average pub to realize "this is the guy you're supposed to shoot right now" it's measured effectiveness would instantly improve
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>wm1 takes no skill as pyro REEEEE
-ignores that walking up to a good player gets you quickly killed
-ignores that a full health good player will most likely survive the wm1
-ignores that players that can aim will kill you when they are far away from the flames
-ignores that players can use the s key and walk back.
-ignores that snipers can just headshot you from a mile away.
anyone who says wm1 doesnt require skill as pyro has no idea what they are talking about. You need to plan and think
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Kill pyros. Behead pyros with the eyelander. Roundhouse kick a pyro onto the control point. Slamdunk a gibus pyro into the trash. Crucify filthy pyro mains. Deficate into a pyros sandvich. Launch pyros into a buzzsaw. Stiryfry pyros in a wok. Toss pyros in front of active sentry guns. Urinate into a pyros gasstank. Judo throw pyros into a woodchipper. Twist pyros heads off. Report pyros to Valve. Karate chop pyros in half. Curbstomb pregnant pyros. Trap pyros in the underworld. Dump pyros into the trash compactor. Liquify pyros into a vat of acid. Eat pyros. Dissect pyros. Exterminate pyros in MGE. Stomp on pyros skull with the mantreads. Make pyros check'em. Cremate pyros with the degreaser. Lobotomize pyros. Mandatory trade bans for pyros. Crush pyros into a paste. Drown pyros in jarate. Vapourize pyros with a pomson. Spawn camp pyros. Kick a pyro from your mvm lobby. Shark pyros from hat drops. Feed pyros to alligators. Slice pyros open with the half-zatoichi.
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I bottom socred....
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>>563455952
Brutal Bouffant + Dictator is an All-class; gives you wiggle room to pick 1 cosmetic with.
Alternatively Mustachioed Mann can be stacked with beards giving you the fuller beard look he has + the curly mustache.
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I'm shit at the game and can regularly get 3-4 kills per life just w+m1'ing, I think they're onto something saying it takes no skill
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best banner btw
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>d can regularly get 3-4 kills per life just w+m1'ing
So you're playing against shitty players, too. Pyro is kinda shit and all his weapons are nerfed to uselessness
Sniper is the only class that really needs nerfs
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>>563468430
Sorry I was too busy doing a match of ctf to post
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baby making sex with hanako
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baby making sex with konata >>563443770
baby making sex with zhao
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>>563468430
what killed /tf2g/?
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>>563470015
I thought the most enjoyable part about CTF are it's long, drawn out matches? Why finish a good thing so quickly?
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>>563470404
Some people like having lots of shorter matches, but I'm definitely a long match enjoyer myself
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I think for those who enjoyer shorter matches, koth is more to their speed and don't get me wrong I enjoy that too. I'm just not particularly fond of ctf matches that end in less than 5 minutes because nobody protects the intel. Helltrain is probably the biggest offender for that. A good CTF match has a good, lengthy duration with a satisfying finish.
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worst for who?
getting rid of scout and soldier would piss off compfags
getting rid of heavy and engi would piss of the chungi
getting rid of sniper and spy would piss off edgelords
pyro being removed would anger the chungi
demo being removed would anger compfags
medic being removed would also anger chungi
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>the kunai, the snowball weapon on the worst class that has significant drawbacks (you die to anything) but allows the user to farm noobs and punishes you for being on a bad team
>tf2 players: >:(
bazaar bargain, the snowball weapon on the best class that allows the user to farm noobs and punishes you for being on a bad team, which also has a negligible downside and isn’t even much worse than stock in its weakest state
>tf2 players: this is ok
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egg making sex with hilda
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baby making sex with may, rosa, and zhao
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>>563473968
it was castawaybefore I got kicked
huge props to the based shupo spray chad, whoever that guy was
going to test zesty and kogasa next
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>>563474992my spray is the one on the rightit was too much for that reddit server
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>my spray is the one on the right
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sad to see that castaway has been infected with faggotry
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>>563455912
Fuck pyros. Get head from pyros. Fuck a pyro on the control point. Slamdunk your cock into her. Cum inside filthy pyro cunts. Have the pyro make you a sandvich after. Launch sperm into pyros. Fry pyros' brains with sex. Toss a pyro's salad. Urinate into a pyro's mouth (she's into it). Judo throw pyros onto a bed. Twist pyros' nipples. Report your love for pyros to Valve. Split pyros' legs in half. Impregnate pyros. Get trapped into sex by demon pyros from the underworld. Dump sperm into a pyro cum dumpster. Submerge pyros into a vat of cum. Eat pyros' pussies. Dissect pyros' clothes off. Dominate pyros after defeating them in MGE. Slap pyro's face during sex with the Hot Hand. Make pyros suck'em. Cream inside pyros' holes. Lobotomize pyros into sex slaves. Mandatory slut training for pyros. Give pyros your love paste. Drown pyros in mad milk. Whip pyros' asses with a disciplinary action. Camp in the same tent with pyros. Invite a pyro to your mvm lobby. Give pyros your hat drops in exchange for sex. Fuck pyros like an alligator. Slice pyros' clothes off with the half-zatoichi.
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>>563475473how often do they kick for cunny there?my spray also wasn't tagged on castaway, but one fat fuck on chat figured out anyway and started literally screaming in chat to ban me
Kogasa has been pretty based so far
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I expected better from them as well.
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>>563476873
>olivia spraynow you got me curious,pls show
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>>563477373
You're really telling me they don't ban (You) for this????
damn..... now I really gotta check zesty
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just learned about this
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>>563477373
I prefer 'pailivia but still nice
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It's noteworthy for featuring the workshop rocket replacements that were never added for some reason
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the best cosmetics are the ones that are multi-class but not all-class
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Cunny status
Castaway [x]
Kogasa []
Furrypound [] (not a bad reaction from the 10 guys there, but still too dead to tell)
Zesty was completely empty unfortunately
Kittypound[]surprisingly,but this server seems like a huge cliquefest
any other spray enabled servers worth checking out?
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spiritually dalit posts
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It was a nude SFM Olivia, the standard model
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based
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I wonder what's he upwardto
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I'm not taking casual away, I am Casual o'Jill!
HEY! Bring back quickplay!
No!
Bring it back I said!
NO!
Ah, let xim go. We'll never catch xim. Not in these queue times
I didn't take casual away, I'm still Casual o'Jill!
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https://youtu.be/-V08--owlss?t=688
>Zesty's upcoming trvthnvke is going to be about how map selection is bad because it funnels everyone into a few places
Is Zesty's video going to land or are people going to defend the matchmaking system?
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>minus theWhat being hacked by Indian hackers.
I wish he never got his account back
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>>563511578
It's not going to change anyone's opinions. People who defend matchmaking are dead set on their ways, no video is going to convince them.
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>>563512685futa is cringe homo shit
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>>563513076
>team isn't doing the bare minimum of distraction for you to be able to nuke that engi
not your fault
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>>563511578
the ability to filter out maps you don't like is literally the best part about casual
if i was still forced into endless 2fort, hightower, dustbowl, turbine, and upward servers i genuinely wouldn't be playing this game still
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>>563512685
This is a K-on general, Bocchi the Slop! is not our girlband anime.
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You have roller pills to suppress anyone behind the fighting line (ie. Medics) or deal collateral by ricocheting off walls and a SBL to charge flick bombs at high speed at greater distances.
You only get a headshot if you sticky jump at a vast open space in a sniper sightline.
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You send a Spy withRed Tape. Especially the number one pick if you found out that Engineer has Jag to begin with. It'll be easier if you just organize the attack the moment he saps.
On theory, you also can distract or turn fire back on him with a Bonk Scout while any other power class wail at the Sentry but that barely apply if Engineer have the high ground that you can not access easily..
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>t.
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nice
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>>563525254
im retarded shuppobro
https://postimg.cc/gallery/vbHw9cD
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holy macaroni
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>>563525319
Thanks again for doing my zhao request, amazing stuff.
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>retard ragebaiting about rick may
>retards getting mad about it and spending time trying to votekick him instead of defending last
>"holy shit can we just play the game"
>medics proceed to ignore me for the rest of the match
AWESOME
i just need to turn off chat at this point
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one more???
holy shit
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why do people flick? it doesn't give extra distance
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nice olivias
nice mini
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>>563525319
HOOOOOOOOONNNNNNNNNEEEEEEEEYYYYY
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baby making sex with honey amy and rouge
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>>563532435
never heard of flockmod
its jsut a free art program to multiplayer doodles with other ppl, it has a leg up on other live session drawing apps since you can animate on the same canvas with other ppl. I've replaced csp with it so yeah
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>>563534120
you're replying to the resident schizo, don't do that. if you see something that's blatantly wrong, stupid, contrarian, or inflammatory, stop and ask yourself, "could this be a troll?" if so, use the drop down menu on his post to hide it, or preferably do the other thing
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>if you see something that's blatantly wrong, stupid, contrarian, or inflammatory, stop and ask yourself, "could this be a troll?"
it's sad that the internet has fallen so far that people on 4chan need to be told this
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>>563514609
Wrong, both are allowed
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>>563537521
you're telling me. posters who still have our posts on their monitors apparently can't read
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>>563545787
He used to be one of us, hosting community servers for others to enjoy... but deep down, he wanted to see our world burn...
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>>563546772
reverse image search brought up this guy
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matei_Zaharia
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>>563544791
this is what liveleak videos look like in the tf2 world
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>heavy mains when they have to rely on health packs, dispensers, and medics like everyone else
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>heavy mains throwing a tantrum because they have to play with initiative advantages instead of risk getting stabbed while gulping down a sandwich every half minute or so
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Y'all hate on lunchbox Heavies until you're burning to death in front of one
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Meanwhile Scout mains get whatever they want because every time they don't they cry "I'M GETTING ONE-SHOT IT'S NOT FAIR" like every other class in the game isn't at risk of that at all times and being the hardest to hit and also the de facto strongest class in the game, maybe behind Soldier.
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>don't look back at when things were obviously better
I mean one thing is correct: quickplay itself was a bad change and a harbinger of things to come. Should have forced every non-white retard to get gatekept by the server browser.
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Some Heavy mains will not bother experimenting, nor see any flaws about their own position.
Some youtubers however just do that for bait value because they like comments section so much. Who in their right mind would feign accepting an idea in the video but still oppose it for no good reason?
On top of my head having a lunchbox secondary have a few downsides:
>your only retaliation to long distance is your minigun where it slows you down when revved and unable to flinch Snipers from far
Not a big deal if you pace the shots for distance and recover from spread but a from another point of view it's a mistake.
>your melee weapons always have a drawback against a certain class or combination and almost useless at range
You can stuff ubers with Holiday Punch but it's not FoS to mitigate some damage. That's your only other option of retaliation.
>regardless of its cooldown, getting pinned for 4 seconds on the spot is not good when faster classes chase or roam around
No matter if you voice call cancel or picked the one with shorter cooldown, it's a disadvantage.
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are you guys talking about yourselves, because not only did you not read what I said correctly; but i'm neither a porn addicted freak nor brown
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Go away, Hostage Killer.
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Ah, that makes sense.
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>>563561560
Doesn't matter, the philosophy behind balancing says that Spy is not allowed to be a nuisance to Sniper or Engineer, thus the only way to make Spy a class that has an impact on the game is to equip the Dead Ringer and Kunai, learn trickstabbing, and go for a streak. Ever since the Ambassador got nerfed, Gunspy is a lot like Fat Scout: A joke, bad subclass people play when they're frustrated or bored with their main.
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>>563561526
You can reply on one device to the person you're upset at instead of talking to yourself as a second party; or join the discussion we're having instead of trying to gain attention by avatarposting as per usual!
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Scout is the best class in the game because da compies told me
What do you mean scout is the most nerfed class in the game? What do you mean scout has limited effectiveness in 12v12? Uhhh shut up! Nerf scout because I hate da compies.
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>actually I’m Colombian,
We know
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Soldier main btw (class with 2x Scout's health and mobility plus AoE that has ACTUALLY never been nerfed)
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It's true that Medic is the best class in the game but there are few that can make him work to his fullest potential. Meanwhile, anyone can hop on Scout and do fine, though granted Soldier is probably still easier to play but that's fine because Soldier is fairly decent to play against.
So while Medic is the best class, Scout gets the most favoritism from Valve, and thus only Snipers are allowed to one-shot him.
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who cares about any of that shit my man spy isn't allowed to be good because any 6 year old can hop on pyro and start lighting their teammates on fire because it's funny and spy literally doesn't get to play the game anymore because of it.
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girls that look like boys that look like girls are a special kind of cute
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>>563569138
And that's what Ms Pauling would look like in real life, she's a tomboy and a sort of plain but secretly hot in that secretary sort of way. Many cosplays go too overtly feminine but she would be a little boyish.
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you're trolling but for the ppl who actually think this works, it's not always a viable option
either the sniper is too much of a jittery adhd sperg who keeps checking his 6 o'clock to headshot, or he's positioned near a sentry nest or within view of his team, which makes killing him with the YER impossible and practically a death sentence otherwise
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"Ermh, chuddie! Casual is FINE!"
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i hate how they fucked up the airblast on the dragons fury
if there was 1.6 second cooldown on just the airblast that would be fine, but the fact that you can't even use your primary fire during that time means you basically have to treat the thing like the phlog 99% of the time. i often won't even extinguish teammates out of fear that an enemy gamer might round the corner the moment i dowhich is why the man melter is secretly good to pair with it
when the design philosophy of the weapon is to reward skill expression and punish whiffing by speeding up and slowing down your fire rate respectively, why does it always punish you for engaging in pyro's most skill based mechanic regardless of whether or not you actually hit the reflect?
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Because dragon fury is like the direct hit and it's actually just a shitter weapon that you get up close so you never miss with it.
Only skilled pyro primary is the back burner because it rewards good positioning and careful air blasting.
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good night general
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>>563430353
Just to touch on this; they recently started banning people on the forums/cord for asking about the "high" player counts, when there's only a few dozen servers filled at certain hours
>Basically insinuating player spoofing being done, intentional or not
And some of the mods are REALLY throwing a melty in some of these discussions ingame lol
>I can try and grab a few screenshots for comedic purposes if you give a shit this weekend
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>the raping of this mod is actually way worse than i coulda anticipated
Yee it kinda sucks, but given how TF2Classic was handled this rly isn't TOO much of a surprise
>Again, they did the same with bullying/hiding anti/neutral LGBT servers in the former version of this mod, so this is really par for the course
Another niche but cool mod ruined by trannies... Many, such cases.
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>>563583967
the shotgun also has a higher dps than the rocket launcher if you just dump your clip. the fact you can deal damage with the flamethrower to more than one target is part of the reason its good, though blue moon did gut it but its not awful
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>>563573546
>go all in against a character with an item at stake
>they accept the challenge
>we both have two pairs but my cards are higher
>https://youtu.be/Ci_M-DIkpeE
>the fifth card drops
>the opponent now has three of a kind
>https://youtu.be/Bvw6ZxKtGRs
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the whole point of afterburn on the flamer was to make it easy to get posthumous kills after running in and dying, but they seem to have lost sight of that because flamethrower afterburn fucking sucks now
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goodnight sleepy tf2gs
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>>563588753
This nigger has to legit be mentally ill to not understand the issue people have with the no hate speech meme
>People complaining about the rule making servers too forcefully sanitized and/or have lopsided moderation
>Can't shoot the shit with randoms about anything other than surface level babble
>But FurryButtplugSniffer42069 can talk about how much tranny cock xhe can suck before their jaw goes numb just fine
>People express discontent
>"Erm, they have these rules on discord and reddit, so like just follow them bigot!"
These "people" truly have no self awareness or insight, if pedestrian lights didn't exist they'd fucking walk into on coming traffic because a bunch of 3rd world countries do it...
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It is done. After nine years of doing nothing I finally closed the Big Earner contract, all 3 stars.
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>i must completely isolate myself by disabling voice chat. All this just so poorly raised people could "express themselves" outside of their safe spaces. That does not seem fair to me. I would rather suggest that some people "mute" themselves and "disable" their sprays, at least while they are playing on a regulated server.
"i don't wanna have to mute annoying people but i want annoying people to be muted"... an intelligent being so far beyond our understanding no one could fathom to make a counter argument to this!
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>>563588753
i like how that retard says there should be moderation because it's been there long before tf2 yet there basically is none in tf2 itself lmaooo the jokes write them self
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>>563588753
>killed all the good servers that didn't allow their flavor of blatant degeneracy
>considers free speech to be a literal buzzword
if only they stopped ddos'ing zesty servers and stayed on their containment mod
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>Team Fortress 2: Legacy was accused of copyright infringement by Team Fortress 2: Classic which was itself accused of copyright infringement by Team Fortress 2
Honestly it would be good if we had some total conversion mods for TF2, which none of these are.
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>rebuttal
>doesn't actually rebute the main points people critize
classic (or should I say classified)
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I do not like the 2020s, I wish to go back to the 2010s.
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>>563588753
i went and read this guy's thread and it's a fukin' blogpost holy lol, but the funny thing is he didn't even address any of the things people took issue with, he just states
>he doesn't wanna hear X from people
>some old star wars mod that had no oversight not being enjoyable as "proof" we need this level of retarded moderation
>said the verification tag didn't kill ANY servers, because it just didn't OK!?!
>and cries about zesty without naming him
AHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAA!!! the silly muscle woman enjoyer strikes again!
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>>563607968
I ate some chicken kebab with salad and tzatziki earlier and I'm having vodka now. Mayhaps I'll play TF2 if my internet works.
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>>563597528
oh man I remember these "when I'm ..." memes were popular...https://youtu.be/QUQjY-iHiUE
>13 yearsFUCK, MAN
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>>563511578
>people choose to play on the maps they choose to play on
>popular maps are popular
>unpopular maps are unpopular
>this is bad
it's going to flop, only zesty is autistic enough to care about something that specific
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>>563618857
laughter / boardwalk
also I'm not enjoying it taking a minute to post which one of you wacky quake negroes is DDOSing the server
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>>563618579
i think you have a fundamental misunderstanding of what is being said
players have choices, sure, but they are heavily funneled into the same maps whether by design, or by happenstance. many do not even know certain maps exist, and how could they? there's over 120 of them, and it's impossible to find games on many of them, if not most. it's really more of an illusion of choice
popular maps are only popular because of the structure of the map selection system, and because they're built for the gamemodes that typically last the longest
unpopular maps are unpopular due to either being shunted down to the bottom of the map selection, tucked in another gamemode tab, and/or because of the huge map bloat. with a shrinking playerbase and a growing map pool, it's only going to get worse
all of this is indeed bad for the game's health
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Remember back during the bot crisis and every single Uncletopia server was basically a reskinned 24/7 Badwater/Upward server to the point where they had to make entire new server types just to get people away from Payload and that was all without matchmaking and with classic 45 minute round timers with autoscramble? Kind of sounds like a user problem but maybe you're one of the 50% of Zesty fans that doesn't actually play the game so you just wouldn't know.
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>>563588753
>Deny
Usage of expressions like "buzzword" and "allegedly" in the first paragraph. Claiming that bigotry and hate speech (aka things the admins don't like) rules are the default, and not a problem that well-mannered people should have any concerns about.
>Attack
Building up a strawman, a group of "some people" in the TF2 community and saying that they were raised poorly, are extremely immature and toxic, that servers with free speech are unregulated cesspits full of mic spam, slurs, misogyny and CP etc.
>Reverse victim and offender
omg I'm a poor little baby who has to manually mute people and disable sprays while I'm trying to play the game because of le chuds ;-;
Always remember that psychos like this are trying to take over TF2, they couldn't care less about coexisting with you
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Oh damn, the TF2C forums are somehow so much worse than I imagined based off that post lmao
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>>563618857
valve made? gravel pit
officially added from community? wutville, hoodoo
community servers? scarlet mansion
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>>563621676
/our guy/ has it covered
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2606558910
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>>563620387
>they had to make entire new server types just to get people away from Payload and that was all without matchmaking
that's the casual matchmaking ruleset doing that. payload lasts the longest without sending you into a loading screen. i think we actually agree, even if you don't realize it due to your irrational hate boner
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>things that didn't happen
what map? was it a full game? were the teams balanced?
if it was any of these things, it wasn't an unpopular map
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more than some of the real shitters like basically everything short of hightower and degroot keep in misc, but it's not like this is a top 10 map like the big payload and ctf maps plus dustbowl and harvest which will 100% be the big targets in the next "trvthnvke." if i only selected the really unpopular maps then i'd only have the worst maps in the game selected and those servers are empty for a good reason. the point is if you're sick of playing badwater and upward then just fucking uncheck them and you'll still get into a game, this is an issue people are making up for themselves because we need to convince people that the one part of casual that's an objective improvement over quickplay is actually a bad thing, and somehow convincing valve that players being able to select their own maps is bad so they'll revert an update they made 10 years ago is easier than convincing tf2's most braindead fanbase to simply uncheck popular maps and solve what is at the core a user issue because none of these mindless faggots even play the game to begin with.
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repeating that people "don't play the game" doesn't make it true
04/14/26(Tue)23:00:22 No.563626208
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repeating that people "don't play the game" doesn't make it true 04/14/26(Tue)23:00:22 No.563626208▶
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>>563623764
cascade is not unpopular. i'd even say it's one of the more popular koth maps
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>those servers are empty for a good reason
this doesn't really track. shit maps like wutville, sovlful as it is or whatever, got a ton of players despite being pure ass. good maps that are now unpopular aren't unpopular for the reasons you think. pipeline and nightfall are some of the most iconic examples
>just fucking uncheck them and you'll still get into a game
not rly, and that's one of if not the core reason for this whole movement. if you get a game at all, it takes way too long because the gamemode or map is hidden from the average joe. they'll always reach for what they can see, not what may be good but still hidden. it's not made up
>the one part of casual that's an objective improvement over quickplay is actually a bad thing
it's not an improvement though, it's a detrimental reversal that doesn't end up benefiting anyone. with quickplay, you queued for a gamemode by default, and you'd get thrown into a game on a variety of maps. if you wanted to search for a specific map, you could in the server browser without having to wait for the game coordinator. you could also tick "show maps/servers" in the quickplay browser for the gamemode you wanted. the point is, if you wanted specific things, you had the option, but it was secondary to the primary function of putting people into games. now it's the opposite
>somehow convincing valve that players being able to select their own maps is bad
that's not it, and i'm not surprised you don't get it. you're more focused on being an anti that'd write it off completely than actually looking into the subject
>revert an update they made 10 years ago is easier than convincing tf2's most braindead fanbase to simply uncheck popular maps
unironically yes. as said before, the average person will tend to choose what's readily available rather than go looking for better options, which kills variety. you can't change human nature
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>>563626208
stop trying to argue with quickplay haters, they hate you and just want the status quo of casual kept in place.
ever since zesty's MyM video there is absolutely no excuse for braindead retards to still support casual other than out of pure spite and hatred for you
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>wutville, sovlful as it is or whatever, got a ton of players despite being pure ass
because wutville is only available once a year and is so ridiculously ass that it's become a meme in the same way as 2fort and hightower
>not rly
yes rly, i'm sorry you literally only queue for pipeline but there's other maps beside that and you can play on them by just queueing for them
>with quickplay, you queued for a gamemode by default, and you'd get thrown into a game on a variety of maps
yeah and it fucking sucked. even when the map pool was smaller there were still dogwater maps you wanted to avoid at all costs and the only way to do that was by manually scrolling through the server browser which made queuing through quickplay absolutely pointless. most people don't really care about playing on one specific particular map, only that they avoid the shit ones which is what the current system lets you do. it would be nice if joining casual servers through the browser was an option, and it should have been one from the start, but filtering out shitty maps you don't want to play on is not a bad thing.
>that's not it
ok then explain it, faggot, or has zesty not told you what you actually think about it yet so you don't actually have an opinion on it other than that you know it's bad because he said so? he's not going to let you suck on it, you know
>you can't change human nature
but apparently you can change valve's human nature of doing what is readily available for them (maintaining the status quo) over looking for a "better option" (muh quickplay), that makes a lot of sense
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> i'm sorry you literally only queue for pipeline
>ok then explain it, faggot, or has zesty not told you what you actually think about it yet so you don't actually have an opinion on it other than that you know it's bad because he said so? he's not going to let you suck on it, you know
see? don't argue with this strawmanning, bad faith piece of shit any further
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>>563626747
>i'm sorry you literally only queue for pipeline
>bad faith
>"pipeline and nightfall are some of the most iconic examples"
it's not my fault that you retards only started caring about pipeline because your master ordered you to and you throw a tantrum anytime someone points that out. maybe if you ever used literally any other fucking map as an example then i could take you faggots more seriously but you always default to pipeline because that's the one zesty said you should like even though the map is hot ass.
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>because wutville is only available once a year and is so ridiculously ass that it's become a meme in the same way as 2fort and hightower
you've almost got it anon. you even mention 2fort and hightower, which are shit maps that happen to be popular like i was saying. they're popular not because they're good, not even necessarily because they're memes, but because the games almost never fucking end. you don't have to spend like 20% or 30% of your time sitting in a queue, you just get to play
>yes rly, i'm sorry you literally only queue for pipeline
no, not rly. making a hyperbolic strawman doesn't make you right, it makes you look ignorant
>yeah and it fucking sucked
it clearly didn't, otherwise there wouldn't be an entire movement of people who preferred it to casual. i actually was there for it instead of pretending it was shit
>there were still dogwater maps you wanted to avoid at all costs and the only way to do that was by manually scrolling through the server browser
not only wrong, but even if it were true, you can sort the server browser by map type and scroll past all the "dogwater maps" since they'll all be grouped together
>most people don't really care about playing on one specific particular map
see, you're almost grasping it again, you just aren't putting it together...
>only that they avoid the shit ones which is what the current system lets you do
...and then you fumble it at the end
>zesty zesty zesty it's all zesty
for your own sake, you need to take your meds. i've already explained it, i've already told you what my stance is. since you're so obsessed with zesty, maybe actually watch 1 or 2 of his videos about it instead of blindly seething at opposing viewpoints
>but apparently you can change valve's human nature of doing what is readily available for them
that's not what human nature is
i'm going to take >>563626385's advice now, because there's no convincing someone of something they've already made up their mind about
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>blah blah blah i'm arguing with zesty's schizoprenic voice in my head
>oh you're not zesty? then you're just a drone that follows his every word, you don't have free will
do us a favor and stay in the nuthouse instead of ruining our tf2 experience ok
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>it clearly didn't, otherwise there wouldn't be an entire movement of people who preferred it to casual. i actually was there for it instead of pretending it was shit
>an entire movement
oh man that's like a whole 0.6% of the people actively playing tf2 right now, i'm sure valve is frothing at the mouth to revert their entire matchmaking system just to appeal to this incredibly niche group of dickriding mouthbreathers
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jesus christ, zoomers aren't even people if they can seriously only quantify things in terms of discord groups and subreddits
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>>563626662
>with quickplay, you queued for gamemode by default, and you'd get thrown into a game on a variety of maps
>>>>>yeah and it fucking sucked.
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>us quickplay chads are everywhere! we just don't have any organization, and we don't do anything, and we have no plan, and we're openly hostile to the developers that are working on the game and are the only people in the world who are actually capable of enforcing the change we want to see, and we kind of just wait around for zesty to say something or stream or make a video so we can parrot all of his points back at people who don't care anymore, but we are innumerable! and we're going to bring back quickplay by typing hashtags in youtube comment sections when we feel like it! that'll get valve to finally RETVRN us to the glory days of tf2!
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>>563628530
yeah and me and literally everyone else just used the server browser because guaranteeing you got into a game that was full and on a good map was better than gambling that queueing in quickplay would put you in a map you didn't hate and that actually had people in it. or are you one of those retards that just equates server rules with quickplay because definitions are completely meaningless now?
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>>563628530
that poster says he was there, but only in an effort to sound superior. that is because he does not care about TF2 or its' playerbase, he only cares about trying to shame you for holding an opposing opinion
stop falling for it
675
look at all of this blind rage, clear example of a schizo who cannot handle a real debate
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>>563629451
you are trying to win the debate by insisting quickplay is held hostage from us and we must do something, only for you to respond by laughing in the face of anyone who tries to come up with a plan to get it back, and say that our efforts are futile
however, i am immune to this, because i already have several community servers to play on consistently, and therefore i am not demoralized. if you want to prove that you are arguing legitimately, please describe the "correct" way to bring back quickplay :)
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>>563629895
i'd be laughing in your plan's face if you had a plan, which you don't. thanks for confirming that. it sounds like you'd be better off convincing likeminded people dissatisfied with casual to play on those community servers you're enjoying so much instead of trying to convince everyone else who doesn't give a shit, including and especially valve, that bringing back a matchmaking system most of them have never seen before is the best course of action.
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>>563630256
i am doing something easier by sticking to community servers, yes. however, the people advocating to bring back quickplay are choosing a more difficult path for the sake of the future of the game. zesty, your boogeyman, also has genuinely good ideas for this purpose, like expanding the tutorials to make the game more beginner friendly. the fact you mock and berate them for this, anonymously no less like the absolute coward you are, is proof that you are scum which cannot handle a real debate
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>enjoying a class i don't regularly play
>doing relatively well too
>decide i'll put some time into learning them properly
>buy a strange loadout for them to track my progress
>proceed to get steamrolled for 5 hours straight
>shamefully resell the weapons at a loss
why do i even play this game anymore
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>>563637943
>buy a strange loadout for them to track my progress
that's what the stat screen is for...
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samefag (literally)
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site was being slow as shit before and wouldn't update
I kept checking back every five minutes and it kept giving me an error whenever I tried to post
this guy >>563642439 >>563642498 was either having the same issue or he's trying to be funny
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Currently hindered by the site shitting itself
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Holy shit the TF2C forum is a gold mind for retardation! I can't get enough of this shit KEEEK!
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>>563644697
>they could've just hosted community servers and stopped complaining about the bots, but they didn't
apathy is the name of the game, prob over 90% of the niggas spamming that shit didn't give a shit about TF2 largely and did it for clout. the amount of people who actually went and hosted their own server is pathetically small
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so wait, this faggot is willing to let the mod practically die to cultivate a bunch of "good boys" to play TF2 with? why the fuck not just play on a custom server on vanilla TF2 in that case and just ban anyone you don't like... fucking tranny enablers man i stg useless retarded cattle all of 'em
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>filters out racist 14 year olds
nigga has never F4 servers lol
>one of the mods is like 16 or some shit and literally calls people "white nazi scum" in VOIP that he doesn't like
high skilled and good natured btw
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>>563647298
I really hate that people think increasingly restricting what you can do on the internet is a good thing. The internet was at its best when it was the wild west, where clicking a hyperlink could as easily get you hello.jpg'd as it could a photo of a cute cat.
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>>563657512
posting anime feet in the big 2026 is hecking wrong think report to your nearest police station and turn in your digital ID
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Tf2 is being ruined by selfish people and stupid people (which are pretty much the same thing, but that's another story). Don't complain about games being unbalanced or people leaving the match if you're only going to play suboptimally or never change class or weapons. The over end of this spectrum is people that only use the most overpowered weapons in the game or are cheaters. Both of these playstyles appeal to selfish and stupid people, which again are the same thing. It's 90iq behavior.
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How many hours would it take for me to get good playing as:
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>why the fuck not just play on a custom server on vanilla TF2 in that case and just ban anyone you don't like... fucking tranny enablers man i stg useless retarded cattle all of 'em
This allows them to put this on their resume when they eventually go to take over Valve.
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playing vidya
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>killed the entire community aspect of tf2
>mod literally on it's last legs
>choose to segregate in your echo chamber even further
There's no winning with this "people".
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>I really hate that people think increasingly restricting what you can do on the internet is a good thing. The internet was at its best when it was the wild west
They never experienced the golden years of the internet, what did you expect? These retards honestly think that sanitizing what’s left of it is a good thing, just because it supports their delusions.
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i thought people were being hyperbolic last thread about the sheer stupidity of their user base, but after reading all these holy fuck these lemmings are actually herding themselves off a cliff loool
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>>563668284
having any form of irl verification on the internet destroys the whole point of free communication and sharing of information - you're not free if you're being watched, no matter who's watching you
niggers can be kept away by iq tests
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>>563668284
Incorrect, hot brown girls wouldn't be able to post themselves on the internet then.
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>>563668284
jeet spam, as bad as it is, isn't the actual thing that's killing the internet.
it's the corporations, they're trying to force you to verify your IRL everywhere nowadays, only god knows how bad things are going to get by the next decade
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>>563647298
le nu-TF2fags are precisely the retards who whine about muh rassissm and shit. Actual oldfags hang around in community servers having fun with friends and doing whatever the fuck they want, they don't want to be censored by some reddit mods on what they can do
There are no people who want classic TF2 but also want to be treated like a fucking trooncord server where if you say the bad n and r words you get timeout forever
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>>563671314
uhmm tfsister we're all voting yes on this right?
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>>563667637
heavy is chaser! da. is nice.
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Free communication doesn't exist. Anywhere it does, it will quickly be snuffed out. Want freedom? Gain power.
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>it's not the jeets
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>playing vidya
hell yeah!!
Also best tf2 weapon?
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>no one shoots the one sentry holding the point for nearly 10 minutes
>switch to direct hit soldier
>2 rockets
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why do i have to do EVERYTHING myself
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>>563675925
people abuse? and trans rules others on report So who are the and
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here's the real issue
>tranny calls someone a faggot in his gay nasal tranny voice
*nothing*
>call someone a faggot in a normal, sane voice
*instant ban*
The issue is that tf2c doesn't enforce rules, it enforces ideology. If you're found to agree with their child-grooming "It's ma'am" thinking, you are excempt from all rules and can pretty much do whatever you want.
If they can tell through context clues that you don't agree with them, you'll be given no grace and everything you say can and will be interpreted in a way to ban you, if possible
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>highly cannibalistic
a tranny got misgendered today on Vault EU2 and called the guy a disgusting, racist loser in repsonse. I said there's no need to call him that, and the trany responded with "Well, he wants to see me dead so he deserves what's coming"
If one hair is out of place, even if it's on accident, they think you want to kill them, so they want to kill you "first".
If these people weren't so complacent, they could be genuinely dangerous.
Trannies won't get banned for saying they want to kill you in real life. Tf2c wants this kind of thinking and nourishes it.
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>scout
a bunch of doublejumps
>soldier
some kind of area buff, like minicrits, damage reduction, or movement speed + lifesteal
>pyro
primary crits
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charging a short distance for a melee crit
>heavy
self-healing
>engi
destroying ones of his buildings for crits
>medic
limited invincibility for himself and his patient
>sniper
some kind of area debuff
>spy
maybe faking his own death?
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>>563680161
Spiritually, targe. I've always liked the idea of being a big tank that just lobs grenades at people. But it's just not worth it compared to the screen with today's balance. The extra blast res on the targe isn't really all that much - the screen still lets you survive 2 direct pills, the only exception being if you're on the eyelander (even the tide turner does this) - and having charges more often on the screen means more opportunities to remove debuffs, or just plain run away from danger, so your overall survivability is usually higher on the screen. I've wanted the targe to have a small amount of bullet res, or really anything to bring back its role as the "tank" shield, for a long time now.
Anyway, between the screen and the tide turner, I use the screen because I don't practice the demoknight stuff that makes the tt actually fun to use lol
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I don't know why TF2 players act like the game having RTS and MOBA influence is like some big secret that nobody knows or has ever thought about. They added Engineer into the game because of Command and Conquer, and that was back in 1997 before you saw the broader deluge of action rpgs and mmos that the 2000s brought.
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Posting is down so everybody can do their taxes
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>>563684774
posting has been super slow for like 2 days, so I don't bother
I was better off fragging as a Beggar's Soldier in TF2 instead
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Teri waz here :3
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Highlander is for fags
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Hiro
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>>563704739
pro are the trap, you can't even see the eye effect except in the small little portrait, it doesn't even appear unless you get 10 kills per life, and it makes you look stupid
ks is good budget
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>>563704739
spec is the only one that matters since you see it on your view model even at 0 kills
pro is overpriced, you don't even see for yourself except on the HUD, and you have to ramp up to 10 kills to get there
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>tf3 comes out
>scout can no longer double jump
>soldier's rocket jump crouch jump no longer gives you more speed than normal jump. Normal jump rocket jump unchanged
>pyro has 95% movement speed
>demo's primary weapon are stickies and pipes are secondary
>heavy gains the razorback
>engineer wrangled sentries no longer have damage resist
>medic unchanged
>sniper's rifles have damage falloff. Huntsman unchanged
>spy unchanged
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Speaking of the zester, spotted this gem of a moment while browsing the graveyard of the Pre-Fortress 2 forum
>steam user casually mocking others about "le hecking BIGOTS" being banned
>instantly have a melty by thinking about zesty (which he brought up himself btw)
This whole verification situation for TF2 mods is just the gift that just keep on giving lmfaooo!
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It's so based how he never actually says anything rude to transgenders but he still makes it clear he dislikes them. I think these polite condemnations hit harder than being an overt chud.
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"BIGOTS could be here" she thought, "I've never been on this server before. There could be BIGOTS anywhere." The desk light felt good against her clean-shaven face. "I HATE BIGOTS!" she thought. The Perfect Girl reverberated her entire desk, making it pulsate as the 0.25 Monster Energy drink circulated through her powerful transfigurated veins and washed away her (merited) fear of a giant 6'7 feet Texan man in the dark. "With a verification system, you can filter out everything you want" she said to himself, out loud.
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I really wonder if it's my graphics mods causing me to dip into 30 frames or if the game is just that badly optimized. I mean I'm using the mods to get rid of all cosmetics, so I don't know what else it could be. I'm on a fucking 3.6GHz quad-core which is ancient today but good for this game and a fucking 2070.
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>>563737854
Trannies have felt empowered by democrats being in office because the implicit deal is that Democrats will make them a higher caste with special nobility privileges like the privilege to never be questioned or insulted and in return the Dems get loyalty.
The only good thing about TF2C was that it ran okay, everything else about it was trash, anyways.
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My only other guesses is that my mat_picmip is too low or the modified explosions are too graphics-intensive, but I mean it's TF2, even graphics mods aren't like, gonna be Crysis-level. I fucked around with the mat_picmip and while I gained frames here or there none of it seemed to fix my issue.
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One of the most annoying things about trannies is how they pretend that the whole "niggers are cooler than you," psyop is still going on so their whole playlist is just the blackest gorillanigger soundcloud rap they could find. Bonus points if it mentions internet memes like aura and anime!
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Yeah, I mean you're probably right but it's hard to ditch the explosions now that I've seen them.
I also remember the game still running kind of shitty when all I had was no cosmetics and redone animations.
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The Stickybomb Launcher is simply the best secondary weapon for Demoman. If you can't use the Loose Cannon very well then you should pair it with the SBL because it can also help you lockdown an enemy and land bombs on them.
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Why don't you get the fuck outta here before I shove your quotations book up your troon fucking ass!
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No, the /trash/poster is a different Anon, I think he does post in /tf2g/ though. Lowkey tho I kinda disapprove of his taste in waifus ngl
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>>563745029I made Nozomi and Hikari in the new Tomodachi Life, and they are playing together and running around in circles around the island fountain
TF2
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can't be asked to take screenshots. The game doesn't allow to easily transfer screenshots from the console to my phone, as other games do for whatever reason, and I can't be asked to connect the switch to my PC
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