first for ghost commander

>>563873960
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plsfix

>>563874950
just let it rock, this won't be a long running general

Funny thing is, i really like the look and feel of Overrun AR. No idea what it is about it, but i like it... very much.

Vandal cock Vandal cock Vandal cock

>>563874950
ok

>>563875447
it's pretty good with a couple of mods

>>563875682
Just even green mods that help reduce recoil are enough. It is a good rifle.

How can anyone watch streamers when their hype and supposed love for games, and not just Marathon, are so clearly fake and just acting?
Do their "fans" really mistake noise for sincerity?

Downed a guy who was fighting warden after helping him kill it cause he was getting all aggressive and then I told him I'd revive him if he'd chill. Stole his gold cryo key and purple salvage off the boss lmao.

>>563878068
maratroons...

>>563878068
that transpiler will be CUMpiled once my team is done with it

>>563878068
>this synthetic alien being represents me
uhh transbros is this really the #representation we heckin need rn?

>>563877681
Their "fans" cannot stand having inner monologue, any throughts of their own, or silence and just being in contemplative state. And so they flock to streamers, because all of the anxieties and psychosis get masked by psychotic excitement and "engagement".
Streamers will do anything for a buck.

>>563877681
Pretty sure most are teenagers and kids.

>lfg a quest in Outpost
>a trio attacks us even when we tell them we're friendly
>we skin them
>they had two red keys and a purple locked room key
>thanks, I guess
>we get into pinwheel
>we run into another trio
>'friendly friendly just doing a quest'
>they rush us
>we skin them
>kill the last trio and some aggressive Rooks
>we do our quest, defend command wing for three minutes
>get to destroyed wing exfil
>a rook tells us he's friendly and asks if he can extract with us
>'sure dude just behave let's gtfo'
>he tries to knife us

What is the deal with people in this game being hyper aggressive for no reason?

Especially that last Rook, he had zero chance and lost whatever he scavenged thus far. We would have let him live BUT NO, he chose violence and was then skinned.

>>563873960
Yo, baker bro. Does your contract cover Fairgame$ when it's out?

What is the proper way for them to balance the shotgun? You can't have a shotgun in a game that doesn't one shot at close range because it would be worthless right? So what do you do?

>>563879404
There' isn't. More specifically, the changes that the've made have made the WSTR more powerful, and it interacts with a bunch of decisions on engagement range, and shit like bubble shields, and shit like bullet magentisim.

And if they DID fix it, it would make grenade and disenjector spam even fucking worse.

>>563879901
All they need is to make shields more effective against fast shots or pellets etc and less effective against penetrating shots. So for example, shields would take reduced damage from pellets and maybe guns that shoot light ammo but take increased damage from volt weaponry and weapons like snipers and rail guns. Hell maybe even take that chance to make some guns deal HP damage through shields and what not.

Why have so many Marathoners exfilled from playing the game?

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>>563880327
Escape will make me God

>>563880486
RAPF BUNGIF?

>>563880327
It's the worst extraction shooter on the market

>>563873960
should i buy the game if i dont have any friends to play with, i played arc raiders solo and had a good time but got bored of the quests after the reset, will marathon be a better time?

>>563880216
They already tweaked that....in the opposite direction. They made volt weapons LESS effective vs shields for example. And the rest of your shit is expensive for their poor, incompetent programers, so you probably aren't getting it.

>>563880616
no

>>563880609
Is it not a battle royal with extraction-like mechanics?

>>563880616
Absolutely not. If you buy this game as a solo in it's current state, I will find your house, steal your computer, and then shit on whatever baked goods you own. It is by far the worst solo experience of any live service game this side of highguard. It's made for 3's. Optimized for 3's. Didn't even have a solo mode until after the beta. Check again next year.

>>563880670
>They made volt weapons LESS effective vs shields for example.
I wonder why that change is then. Seems odd. I thought that was the niche of volt weaponry.

>>563880616
No, Solo play is terrible. Unironically play any other extraction shooter instead.

>>563880772
No. You should treat whatever person, source or article that said that as Kotaku class shitposting. It's heavy on teams of 3 and heavy on PVP.

>>563880616
If you want a solo extraction shooter just buy the base version of tarkov and download SPT. It will give you the best possible AI and better quality of life than the base game

>>563880826
solo mode is perfectly playable right now. However, it suffers from what every other solo extraction faces, some people will obviously camp dark corners at high traffic spots and dumpster you.

>>563880772
Not yet

>>563881028
Show me the best cryo archive solo play or fuck off.

>>563881345
Go to the bathroom and exfill

>>563881458
I did and marathon came out

>>563881458
Get out...what the heck

1) will I get flamed going into cryo with the sponsor kit I never used

2) why don't they give you a weekly cryo sponsor kit stipend

>>563881765
nah the cryo kit is not bad

>>563881765
>flamed
Yes.

> why don't they give
Because the point of cryo is for the people on top to risk even more shit, and lose a bunch of shit on average. They want people earning shit all week, and then losing it to the 6 man chinese disenjector discord squad. So much so that they're now giving that 6 man squad carri points for playing together.

How do you play destroyer? I've been only playing assassin and want to switch. Do you just go full aggro with enhanced sprint and boost-dash and wstr people in the face? The ultimate only seems good vs lots of bots.

>>563882054
Hrmmm

>>563882117
ez just don't give the kit anymore once you're above season level 80

>>563878068
Clever wordplay, even if I don't approve of the message. I've used transpilation for Rimworld mods a few times. Interesting process, but can be hard to grasp.

>>563882128
Basically, people get really thrown off by you boost dashing and super sprinting at them. He's the best mid-range gap closer imo.

>>563882301
>ez just don't give the kit anymore once you're above season level 80
LOL. You're under the impression that they WANT you there in the first place for free. That would just steal
>The sense of pride and accomplishment.

Go play rook or that free kit mode instead.

Just how much louder is sprinting than walking? Also, what is your movement like in solos? I normally sprint from POI to POI but walk when in actually in the POI. People say shit like "WELL STOP MAKING NOISE IF YOU DON'T WANT TO BE KILLED!" but I also want to play the fucking game. Crabbing around forever seems like complete ass. I don't sprint around like a maniac but I definitely don't crouch walk everywhere.

>>563881028
Solo is playable as long as you enjoy sitting in queue and not playing the ultra hardcore spaghetti end-game map that bungie hallucinated into reality. You WILL queue with other players and you WILL have cosmetics advertised to you and you WILL be funneled into the mtx store pages

>>563882986
Pull up the mod that lets you see your sound generation range. You want to limit your exposed time. You want to not be heard once you're in stalking range.

I think this game lacks ways to effectively penetrate a room. So many times I will get to hauler and realize someone is on the second floor but climbing up to second floor is a fucking death sentence if someone beat you there. Same with other buildings in other maps. Where the fuck is the flashbang nade or something? or a stun nade of some sort? I just hate knowing they are there but realizing it would be stupid to push them because they are holding a tight angle with a shotgun or something.

>>563884304
Then there's me who after 40 hours still can't even find the fucking ladder to get up there

>>563884304
Get a teammate with a biotoxic disenjector or who's rich enough to always have grenades and it's easier.

>>563884506
Me, there's also a staircase

>>563884518
>>563884594
I get sort of confused in hauler sometimes too. I hate when I find the ramp that leads into the fucking room that lets you honk the hauler horn. Its a dead end with nothing in it but that fucking button.

>>563884506
>>563884594
Hauler is way bigger than it feels like. I've even found a small room with nothing in it that accessible only via vents from both floors.

what game has better longevity for a solo player, marathon or destiny 2 with buying the humble deal?

>>563884304
Yeah they 100% need flashbangs, I've had dozens of stalemates where you can't push into rooms because you'll just get blasted immediately.

>>563885026
Unironically destiny 2, after you play through all the content you can easily challenge yourself with solo strikes and solo dungeons. It's not even close in terms of the amount of content you would have available to you

>players are having a blast with sponsored queue
>marathon players just wanted a BR this whole time
lol. just add the pve mode too for the solos that don't care.

>>563885423
This game is fun when everyone can get a competitive kit who knew
>muh BR
Kill yourself immediately

2/2 on cryo today with some nice team wipes, thinking I should probably just stop for the day

>>563880216
So more types of shields?

>>563884304
>>563885146
Sorry, but there is no destiny 2 ability that they can reskin into a flashbang, maybe you will get one in 6 or 8 years.

I'm just here to see Bungie get raped

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>>563885423
>MUH BR MUH BR

>fill in on 10k+ kit because vault is full
>i probably won't mind losing it
>2 free kit shitters with no mics
maybe i do fucking mind

>>563886303
bro...that arc grenade....

>>563886715
Which one?

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>>563887086

Okay Cryo is actually fun at sub-level 100, it's tense but not hyper sweaty. 1st run we wiped but second run we killed a team and dipped successfully.

>>563883712
>mod that lets you see your sound generation range
what.

LET ME SAVE LOADOUTS SO I DON'T HAVE TO REMEMBER MY BUILD WHEN COMING OUT OF ROOK RUNS OR BETTER YET WHY DO I NEED TO EMPTY MY LOADOUT ANYWAYS ITS NOT LIKE YOU CAN FUCK WITH ROOK'S LOADOUT OR SMUGGLE SHIT IN ITS JUST USELESS FAFFING ABOUT

>>563875447
I've been using it at range in free kit dire marsh and it's surprisingly solid if you tap shoot it.
I usually treat it as an smg but there's potential at range too.

>>563875447
It just feels like a black sheep gun. There are better close range guns and better mid range guns. It's good but doesn't excel, it basically doesn't have a niche.

>>563879404
WELL

@Ziegler_Dev
UPDATE: WTF WSTRs

We're gonna take a shot at bringing the WSTR more in line. Right now it's become a dominant option and is eclipsing a lot of the other short range options that exist in the game. SOOOOOO... as of Tuesday 4/21 (likely 8AM PT) the WSTR will no longer be able to down an enemy player who has blue shields or above with two shots. The ideal is that in a majority of cases this will force a reload in scenarios where the target has a blue shield, allowing for some more counterplay in these scenarios.

What Will Change:

- Change will go live Tuesday 4/21 in the morning. Likely 8AM PT.

- WSTRs can still down a green shielded target with 2 direct shots at short rang

- WSTRs will no longer be able to down a blue and above shielded target with 2 shots at short range.

We're still keeping an eye on a variety of balance issues. Thanks for all the feedback, keep it coming and we'll keep hammering at it.

>>563890682
Looks like my shift at the rape factory.... is over...

>>563885783
>>563886412
last team standing rapes

Why is the convoy event so fucking tanky?

>>563890682
Why even have a double barrel in the game if it can't kill things in 2 shots?

>finally free of the insta rape assassins crouched in POIs with WSTRs

>>563891826
so you can start using the misraiah

>>563890682
I mean something had to be done. It was the only gun you ever needed up close. Misriah and circuit breaker both completely outclassed by it. Cryo was completely and totally dominated by it, as is Outpost.

I think more importantly than that, they need to tone down snipers by adding bullet drop and travel time. Make it skillful not just point and click heads. But the whole game has fuck tons of balance issues to deal with; mainly most of the schema weapons being straight trash and being outclassed by the armory guns.

Wow, another change that benefits purple shields. If you are a green boy why even play?

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they actually finally GUTTED the fucking cancer that is the wurster

also bungie is retarded for expecting me to follow 3 different twitters to keep uptodate. no fucking mention of this from the dev team or on their homepage

>>563893798
It also benefits blues retard kun.

>>563879404
just delete the fucking wster dude.
if a double barrel doesnt kill a puprle shield its useless. which now it cant. so its useless.
it just needed a firerate nerf.

>>563894073
Seethe less nigga lmao.

>>563893798
Wstr costs 3k green boys aren't at that socio economic level

>>563894198
seethe? I am glad the gun got obliterated. retard

>>563895016
Fair

Holy shit the fucking magnum is worthless

Just lost a 14k kit cause some fag queued into cryo with green shields. Bungie please make it a LOADOUT requirement and not just raw value

>>563896082
The difference between green and purple is minimal

>>563896245
If wormed his way in with green shields that means he just filled his inventory with trash.

>>563896337
He paid the ante.
Everything that haopens after is a (You) problem.

fucking free kit shitters loading into outpost all the time, fuck off

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>Let's find a key for crates
Fuck opening boxes, I wanna kill Demonte, Shaqueef, and Tyrone

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Why is this guy such a massive faggot

>>563893358
Hot take, but I don't think snipers are healthy in any form with these types of games

Cindy from Public acquisitions is having an affair with Anthony from the legal department

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Teammates not leaving, now that's cool

>>563898329
does the drone track invisible assassins?

>guy DCs in cryo without saying anything
>get rushed by a full purple team right after
Nice

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>>563897613
I can't wait to watch the total meltdown from all these retards when they start actually hard pivoting the game in S2.

>>563893798
>Wow, another change that benefits purple shields. If you are a green boy why even play?
I can kill blue and purple in solo without even taking damage from them.
I'm not playing squads, unless it's free kits ;-)
>>563898813
>drone track invisible assassins?
I don't know, I wanted to make someone move, so I could hear him.

>>563897613
Sounds autistic. The game obviously needs to change. Bungie can't afford to have a small game that doesn't make any money, Marathon flopped and needs a larger audience.

>>563899437
>Bungie can't afford to have a small game that doesn't make any money
Bungie exists for the next PlayStation console, already making a new AAA game for it. The studio is immortal, until the next game flops.
Sony studios exist for the console, not for the current game.
And Sony isn't porting to PC anymore
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2026-03-04/sony-pulls-back-from-playstation-games-on-pc

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>play perimeter
>enter hauler and back into a corner ass first
>assassin knifes me one time
>spin around and WSTR him

>later in same round, recon ambushes me
>run and hold angle next to a door
>WSTR her

I CAN ONLY GET KILLS WITH THIS GUN! I don't think I have killed anyone in solos with anything besides the WSTR. What have I become? I find that I rarely get the jump on people and if I survive them ambushing me, I can slip away and WSTR them from a weird angle. I don't even like shotguns but I felt like I had to use it in solos because no other gun can turn around a situation in which you were damaged first.

>>563899732
Holy cope. Destiny 2 is dead, Marathon flopped. Sony bought Bungie to make the line go up and make infinite money with live service slop and to be a consultant for other studios making live service slop. There is no new AAA from Bungie in the works, if there is it's Destiny 3, but I doubt it considering that they have two dead live service games and an owner that's pissed that they massively overpaid for them. If you read the article it says that live service slop will still be multi-platform. No studio is immortal.

>>563900009
>There is no new AAA from Bungie
See ya on the PS6(six) showcase, remember the big dick Recon man from /mg/

had 0 fun playing today

>>563893950
Are these changes THERMODYNAMIC? I wonder how much HP a blue and above shielded target will be left with after two WSTR shots. Because if its like a sliver of HP then a punch will finish them anyway.

Had one good run today in Cryo (teammates talking, able to exfil) and the rest were just a mix of people not communicating and getting steamrolled or just rage quitting the moment something goes wrong.

>>563900218
I'll see you on May 8th when they announce the rape of Bungie with the next IR event.
https://www.sony.com/en/SonyInfo/IR/news/IR_Schedule2026_E.pdf

It feels less bad being raped in Cryo Archive than standard Marathon, but I’m already empty.

>>563900253
>>563900562
If you wanna play the free kit moshpit, I'll carry you pussies
>>563900509
Bungie won't be scrapped, until a game for the next console is ready.

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Most KINO shell?
Least KINO shell?

>>563900509
>I'll see you on May 8th when they announce the rape of Bungie with the next IR event.
IR standing for Interactive Rape, I can't wait!

>>563900945
>Bungie won't be scrapped, until a game for the next console is ready.
Delusional. Sony has owned them for 4 years at this point and has been nothing but disappointed in them and their inability to make money, even back when Destiny 2 was big.

>>563900997
>Kino
Destroyer
>Ludo
Vandal

>>563900997
>Most KINO shell?
The exfil raper male Recon
>>563900997
>Least KINO shell?
Destroyer, because he's overrated. Only good for running away. He doesn't have equipment for ambushing.

>>563901159
>>Bungie won't be scrapped, until a game for the next console is ready.
>Delusional.
You believe Sony will launch the PS6, and not advertise it with the Bungie logo?
>Muh Bungie bad reputation
And people, who didn't buy Marathon, are still begging for PvE in Marathon, so they can play.

I only want marathon to succeed so chartposters will get their dopamine elsewhere I’m so tired of hearing Sony this bungie that just shut up

>>563901507
>You believe Sony will launch the PS6, and not advertise it with the Bungie logo?
100%, Bungie never meets deadlines for anything. You think they can meet a deadline to have something ready for a PS6 showcase?
>And people, who didn't buy Marathon, are still begging for PvE in Marathon, so they can play.
People who didn't buy Marathon aren't even talking about it. The ones that want PVE are the people that bought it and have buyer's remorse.

>>563900945
breh i was playing solos and all my deaths were total cancer bullshit
>lost to a bully at 40ms while crouching with a shield retaliator
>getting INSTAKILLED by a bully from 20m while i can barely see the guy cuz the map is so fucking dark
>putting a vandal to like 50 health and then she double jumps and hits me for like 120 damage with her CE while midair because yeah thats totally something people do (fuck this cancer bot)
>grabbing the red key and getting insta sprayed with perfect accuracy from the roof by some retarded fag with a retaliator
yeah okay dude

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>>563901626
>100%, Bungie never meets deadlines for anything. You think they can meet a deadline to have something ready for a PS6 showcase?
Like Sony wouldn't show an "in-engine cinematic cutscene", if gameplay isn't ready. Wolverine was announced six years ago, coming out this fall.

>think about playing rook
>start re-downloading marathon
>remember i'll just be collecting loot to feed to the bottomless pit of cryo
>cancel download

i spent 50,000 credits just to get rid of the upgrade icon to get my wallet to ten million

>>563881028
So it begs the question... why add snipers to a game like this? It exacerbates the issue tenfold. It's absolutely nonsensical that every game feels the need to add snipers for some reason

Are the LMG's all trash? Every time I use the retaliator that shoots light bullets, I fucking die. I even use the LMG shield too. I can't tell how protective it is(or not). I also tried the heavy LMG and that thing made me want to vomit. I am not sure in what situation you would even use it.

Excited to get back to stabbing after this nerf, kinda nice to actually have a use for the circuit breakers in my armory

>>563894453
6k

>>563904809
oh right 2.4k is the sell price

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>>563904392
They're good but not all-purpose
>shield
pretty sure it's per projectile damage reduction that doesn't work on volt. So great against rapid fire/shotguns, bad against DMRs/Snipers/Railguns/Volt weapons.
>heavy LMG
think of it like a heavy as fuck DMR, and try to get a magazine mod. Stuns the shit out of bots, you barely ever have to reload. Balanced shield lowers the weight so it doesn't slow you down so much.
>Conquest
at full RPM it has TTK comparable to SMGs with body shots, and exceeds them with headshots due to a better multiplier - but without the gold mod it takes a bit to spool up and instantly loses all speed if you let go of the trigger, so it can really suck in PVP peek situations. Retaliator is a more general purpose mid-range weapon with no ramp-up time. Both are great for bots and lose to specialist weapons in their range band, but with shields will generally win mid-range slugfests due to huge mag size and the damage reduction.

>>563897613
The WSTR is already kind of shit compared to where it used to be. It's honestly fine where it stands, the problem is you can just buy them from the vendor. Replace the WSTR with either one of the pump shotty's and people will stop crying so much.

>>563905497
they also drop from fuckin recruits and can be farmed via Rook runs, they're practically infinite.

>>563905631
Good point anon, I really think the problem isnt the weapon's dmg, but the availability of the weapon.

>sit in queue for a week
>load in
>spawn camped
>lose everything
>re-queue for a week
>load in
>spend two weeks looting green and blue things
>get sniped
>re-queue
>see my reflection in the monitor
>think about how the solution for this is a beta test special mode that is just looting green things to placate people that want to walk around an empty map and open lootboxes
>alt-f4

>>563907618
>beta test special mode that is just looting green things

It's honestly the best mode for looting because you can wipe the lobby and then do world events

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>infil
>in a loud nigger voice
>WHO THE FUCK IS *USERNAME*
literally raised in a barn.

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just did the dire marsh warden solo in only blues/greens. feels hella good i will not cap. just bring some emp grenades to break his/her/their shields and a high damage ballistic weapon for actual real damage with headshots. crack shield, crack skull. ez game

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>>563909357
>his/her/their
their is already gender neutral, troon.

>>563909220
>>563909357
You two sluts just left the match, before I finished killing Shaqueel, Jamal and Tyrone. I would've rezzed you.

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>>563909745
i think one of the worst things i hate about this hell hole of a website is that i can never tell if people are actually going along with a joke, or if they/he/she is too stupid to understand something was a joke in the first place

>>563903038
What is it about marathon that causes this? Every other extraction game I've played has moments of frustration, but in marathon I feel like I'm just collecting shit for someone else.

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>do dna
>hit security 4
>go up elevator
>get green orb
>putting batteries in
>another team beams us in the back as we're entering the climbing room up to compiler
Enjoy your free boss fight served up to you on a fucking platter, I guess. Cryo is the coolest map with the most intolerable players ever.
It's not like any other extraction shooter in existence where you can stash 40 fucking guns in your vault, you get to store maybe 4 or 5 good loadouts before you're back to farming dire and outpost to take another chance at it. It feels like an endless cycle to accomplish anything in this fucking game, and when you do manage to do anything you can't take anything back to vault with you because half your backpack is ammo and consumables.

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>>563901810
Free kit only mode is so much easier. In solo, killing one dude with nice gear can be more difficult, than using garbage to kill a squad.
>>563910427
Put those cum catchers away

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>>563910473
i've felt this way too, but what helps is to understand that its a two way street. ive gotten most of my good shit from someone else. and when i take it from them, i understand that someday someone will take it from me. we each get our turn with it. its a cycle. but all the while you're leveling your factions for things that dont go away when you die. youre making progress either way. and dont forget, unlocking vaults in cryo for the purpose of getting to the compiler arnt lost on reset. those go into the codex. so playing cryo will make it easier to get to the compiler (the main endgame) in future resets FORVER. so you ARE making progress. dont stop now runna

>>563909909
actually our third was on the roof getting a red and died while the 2nd and I raided drone and dipped out. nice fan fic, though, janathaniel.

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Played a match of Arc Raiders, it's so clunky and boring. Getting kills in Marathon is much more rewarding.
Gonna shoot some ropes with Pragmata, and back to exfil raping on Dire marsh.

>game’s too scary for casuals that play without Ethernet and headphones
>game’s too non-interactive for psychos
>all bungie’s given us is a new vector for guys over 40 that read speculative gaming “journalism” to speculate through
>the grocery store was out of shelled edamame so I had to get frozen pods
misery

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Marathon and Pragmata, both better than Arc

>>563912241
>>game’s too scary for casuals that play without Ethernet and headphones
>>game’s too non-interactive for psychos
So who's in between casuals and psychos? Team deathmatch/battle royale players love the game. The players who are able to get battle royale wins, that is.
You know, 100 players on the map, you try like 10 times, and you should get at least one win.

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Only three normal maps through the whole summer is very retarded, no matter how good the game is, I don't I'm gonna play the same medium sized maps for more than 150 hours.
If the maps were Warzone sized, then yeah, but Marathon's are like a fifth of that.
Perimeter is like the smallest Warzone map, with less players per match.

Is there any shooter that actually feels cyberpunk besides this and maybe NeoTokyo
It's lame how cyberpunk 2077 felt so generic despite they hype

will prob hit 600 hours today, will also prob unlock prestige salvage barter, the only end game content for a solo player.

>>563913885
>Is there any shooter that actually feels cyberpunk besides this
killzone Shadow fall was more cyberpunk than Marathon.
So were both Titanfall games.
Marathon is more like Overwatch in my opinion, and I don't dislike Marathon, it was never "creepy" or scary to me. It's like a clown show without real blood/gore.
P.S. I don't read the codex or anything, so I don't know the spooky Marathon stories. And have no Idea why people get scared of this game, the cartoon tick is gonna bite them?

>>563914013
600 hours solo? Touch grace, get a girlfirend, fuck.
I wonder how good you are, would I be able to kill you.

is the game worth if i just want to queue as rook and fuck with trios?

>>563914360
your vault will fill up but i guess you can sell it off if you only want to rook

>>563914360
You actually need to play the main game to get any upgrades for rook so nah

I played with the stupidest player I’ve ever seen in a match on Marsh. Guy was level 70, sounded South American.

>calls out a rook 1 minute into the match
>lockdown spawns on us, we have patch kits, runs off
>goes to quarantine for who knows why
>spots a rook, calls it out as a whole team
>is literally looting a rook, telling us to watch out for the rest of the rooks team
>ask him what the guy they downed was, “player”
>activates a guarded exfil while we’re doing the commander boss
>rushes to it, dies to a rook in exfil, calls out that a teams there (was another rook)
>while downed in the exfil, he keeps the timer up and leaves the entire team behind
>sorry guys
>two rooks that were looking at the whole thing and another team at the crew exfil next door take everyone out

>>563914360
>if i just want to queue as rook and fuck with trios?
no, absolutely fuck not. I put 25 hours into the playtest, and 2 hours before refunding (more on my steam friend share) before quitting. 80% of the time you're put into a lobby where everyone's already extracted and there's only other rooks left. you have to repeatedly suicide to get favorable lobbies, and your vault just gets filled with dogshit sponsored kits that you to manually hold to get rid of each time. playing rook only is an entirely pointless and stakeless venture that exists only to waste yours and other players time.

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OMG I JUST KILLED A FULL TRIO AS A ROOK FOR THE FIRST TIME. AND I ALSO KILLED ANOTHER GUY I FOUND OMG dude my heart is racing HOLY FUCK im actually getting too old for this

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>>563914152
It feels kind of like System Shock 2 and Syndicate Wars in a way due to being an utterly disposable pawn in a future where corporations are super states in of themselves
I always felt that Cyberpunk was better exemplified by hostile architecture and insignificance over shiny tech and snazzy clothes

>>563913763
A lot of the issues with the game would be fixed with just having bigger maps. Pub stomps, movement abilities, shotguns, snipers, etc. Just make the map bigger and casuals would be less likely to get shit on by 3 stacks. Rats would have less incentive to crouch walk around the map since it'd be so big. I don't know what the fuck Bungie was thinking. Dire Marsh is the biggest map and you can get across in a little more than a minute.

>>563915346
>to being an utterly disposable pawn in a future
Try Atomic Heart if you haven't, it's single player. You're a soldier with implants, a respected one, machines start fucking up, and you go into town to figure out why. I'm not gonna tell you the rest, but I think this game can treat you like a pawn.

>>563916471
I quite liked it, especially the enemy design. Hope 2 is gud

>>563915883
>A lot of the issues with the game would be fixed with just having bigger maps. Pub stomps, movement abilities, shotguns, snipers, etc. Just make the map bigger and casuals would be less likely to get shit on by 3 stacks. Rats would have less incentive to crouch walk around the map since it'd be so big.
You're wrong, the biggest modern FPS map is Verdansk, stacks still zip around, and rats still crouch walk within an area.
Marathon has the "I like kills, loot is not as important" audience.
A lot of battle royale players want to kill you just to waste your time(ruin your 25 minute match), a lot of extraction game fans want that too. They don't really want your ammo or gear.
For me, the most important, and pleasant thing in Marathon, is killing someone who hopes to complete the match, exfil.
There's a lot of spiteful people coming from BR's and extraction shooters. They will not stop because the map is bigger.
I would like bigger maps, because I wouldn't get sick of them as fast. I'd go to different areas.

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>>563916653
Good to know you liked it. I finished it twice, first on Ps4, then on Ps5.
Have you played Ruiner?

>outpost
>blue kits
>walk out with purples
I don't know how I team fought without vandal before. movement is king.

>>563917189
I haven't I'll check it out, thanks. Reminds me of Synthetik

>>563917389
>movement is king.
Glad you're having fun, lil movement demon. I'd shred you tho

>>563885026
d2. Didn't they literally give that away for free at one point? '

>>563886303
And even if they did, the cheaters would negate it day one.

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Phew, that Pragmata quality is crazy. Now to focus on Marathon with post nut clarity

>>563918465
This is my arm

>>563889381
This is a game for winners anon.

>>563900509
We'll see what they say about marathon, and fairgames. Watch particularly for the porportion, and anything else they say about it's live service strategy.

>>563901507
>You believe Sony will launch the PS6, and not advertise it with the Bungie logo?
I don't think Bungie can have something ready by PS6, and I don't think they'd use marathon to carry the torch.

>>563918465
Pedophilia is gross

>>563905879
That's what their balance direction is. It's not as much that the weapon is overpowered. It's that it's easily available to poorfags. Same as the knife nerf.

Now, consider how people's loadouts at low end cryo is going to change, vs high end cryo.

>>563901580
LOL. I can only imagine how pathetic you would have been back when there was serious console war competition.

>>563880327
I was promised an extraction game, but it feels more like a battle royale with its design decisions. I played Apex for 2000 hours, had enough of that shit and don't want more.

>>563910473
Because that's literally the desired design of this. They expect you to work all week to build your stash up, and then give it away to your betters in cryo on the weekend.

Just lkie this dude. >>563910928

>>563884506
There's boxes and desks on the first floor of hauler that you can jump from to the second floor

The game does feel way more rapey than other extraction shooters. I guess because the rape happens much more quickly.

>>563914360
Absolutely not. Rook is not a full mode. They intentionally crippled it, because they want to push you to being in a team. Solo players should wait until next year. Might go f2p by that time anyways too.

>>563918465
LTG posing ass mother fucker.

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>did 5 cryo runs today
>Only exfil'd once
>vault half empty already
I don't know if I'm a fan of this gameplay loop of grind for a week just to clock into the rape factory.

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>>563918909
>I don't think Bungie can have something ready by PS6
Nobody had anything ready for PS5, or PS4. They both launched with 1(one) game and a remaster. Bungie will have a "in engine cinematic trailer".
>>563919192
What does that have to do with Pragmata? The game is about shooting robots and jumping, just like Marathon.

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Marathon not having a standard, physical copy, is disappointing. Even with "low" sales numbers, or 1.5 million sold, Sony should've printed physical.
What man doesn't want physical? No man, no man at all.

Some of the quests in this game man.

What do they expect you to do as a trio with randoms, hit three different POIs throughout the match, exfoliate, contested objectives.

Maaaaaaaan

>>563918465
I'm burning rubber in pragmata myself. Still not sure if I like toggle to aim or not because if your finger gets tired or slips during a hack you get kicked out of your progress. In the one hand it will save my left trigger finger from getting cramped, on the other when an OH SHIT moment occurs you can get accidentally rooted in place when you needed your full move set to evade.

If matches were 40 minutes instead of 25 minutes you could do more than one quest in a run.

FYI the Vandal lust provoking pictures made me beat my meat, not Pragmata. You sick fuck

>>563920484
For once in your life saying something that isn't retarded, good job.

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>only playable mode is on the worst map
>every other map is just destiny 2 pvp with self revives

>>563923138
I like Dire Marsh the most, it has a jungle for me to play Predator.
Outpost is ugly, looks like shit and blocks my camping with heat cascade. Perimeter looks generic, like a construction site with colorful plastic.

>>563924834
I thought about this while playing, they probably struggled a lot with the visual tone of the maps.

The example is Library from Halo 1. It’s the most boring map visually, but it’s the only one that gets the horror element across.

>>563890682
They're gonna turn this game to shit with balance patches just like Destiny

>>563924925
>the horror element
There's people, like me, who don't understand this. I can get immersed in a games atmosphere, but I'm not able to get scared. Good dismemberment and gore, like in RE2 Remake or TLOU Part 2, can be a little disgusting, repulsive. A good, random jumpscare can spike up my heart beat a little. But I don't understand how some people get spooked, or feel fear in a game.
I've hear "Marathon is like a horror game" all over the place, and I don't understand how.
At least add some disgusting dismemberment.
Even Call of Duty has good dismemberment
>Arm gets ripped off
>Leg gets ripped off
>Head can explode
I don't think gore means scary, but something needs to look repulsive and weird, in order to make someone uncomfortable. IMO, if what I'm looking at isn't convincingly uncomfortable, I can't get worried, you know, you have to worry about something in a horror setting.

I can't fucking wait until they kill the wstr

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Why no large blade that cuts arms or legs off in gaem?
Why no large enemy that can crush skull, rip jaw off, make eyeballs pop out?
Call of duty has this right now.
(Let's not pretend, that anyone except CoD chuds and battle royale subhumans is playing Marathon. No one else is playing this).

>>563925491
What gore would there even be?
You literally playhuman puppets with blue juice instead of blood.

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>>563925791
Thay have eyeballs and teeth, right? Don't they have some kind of guts to run the juice through the body?
Some lorefag told me, that if shells don't "feel human", and minds get transferred to mechanical bodies, they go crazy and off themselves. So a shell has to feel like your real body. If this is correct, there should be stomach movement, something like lungs for air to go in and out.
Lemme rip that stuff out

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>No scratch the cat button
>No pet Vandal's crotch button
>No feed the sneed button
Why did Bungie even bother putting goofy stuff in, if you can't even shoot the ghost cat.

Everyone is saying they added SBMM but di they really or are the player numbers at the point where tryhards are only running into tryhards on average now?

>>563893950
DESU this could all be avoided if they made WSTR rare like the Misriah and Misriah was the common shotgun

>freekit mode
>heavy melee someone
>they take no damage
>turn around and one-shot me with heavy melee
Ah yes, the Destiny 1 warlock melee experience

>>563900393
green shields is 140HP, blue is 160
do the math, it will pretty much be a sliver of health you're left with

>>563929414
hmmm nyes so now it'll require just a little extra melee punch to "oneshot" someone with a wstr

>>563900393
Keep in mind you can easily have a 3 shot wstr.

>everyone crying because they think Rook is supposed to be some 1v9 clip montage machine and not a scavenger

scavenger is a codeword for rapemeat

Rooks get the rope

Rope Bungie

>>563905631
>>563905497
>>563905879
yeah the problem was defo that its "le available" and not that its the fastest killing weapon in the game by a factor of 2. retards

anyway, its useless now, thank god. wish i still had my 5 chadriahs tho

>>563925294
?????????????????????????????

>>563928761
or you know how about just nerfing the fucking firerate so you dont have a 300-500ms ttk advantage over literally every other gun in the game (including a fully automatic golden chudriah)

>>563930183
yes but the ttk essentially doubled now, from 300 to 600 ms.

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>I wonder how good you are, would I be able to kill you.
just killed three purple shields in a solo run, only one of them put up a good fight.

>>563931540
did you play a lot of cryo or how are you at over a mil

>>563931617
nah, just solos. i play a lot and sell most things.

>>563890682
Interesting choice. This is a one sided nerf for most of the player base since blue and above shields are pretty rare, but for Cryo Archive, where blue and up is basically mandatory, this greatly nerfs the gun. Basically, greens can't punch up anymore.

>>563931540
>that vault

What’s up 315 hours played

>It's another "get locked in cryo spawn for the whole game because a trio rushes into the second room and kills our third and no other team comes by to kill them while they camp" game
>they don't even take our gear when they kill us
>>563931540
Are you NA by chance? I keep seeing lots of people say 1v3'ing consistently is super easy but everyone saying that is from there, so I'm starting to wonder if NA players are just intellectually cooked or something

>>563920484
I usually want physical but if it's a "live service" game where they just turn off the servers then there's really no benefit

>sponsored marsh
>whoever gets a lucky wstr drop from a bot gets to win the lobby
lol!! great game!

>>563932087
no, i'm playing on the sydney server, and singapore after midnight. as for 1v3ing i'm not a fan of rook runs, i'm strictly solo queues.

>>563932475
Dire Marsh is like the worst place to use WSTR.

>>563921163
Imagine if you will, some kind of rudimentary in game party search system where, without the use of some faggot third party app like discord, you could organize a group of players all doing the same contract.

what the fuck were they actually thinking with the spawns in this game? particularly on dire marsh. just wiped a team in complex then got instantly third partied within 90 seconds of starting. this was sponsored fill so not even any bullshit like thermal snipers

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>>563935139
a couple of those spawns seem especially fucked

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>>563935139
Jesus fucking Christ.

Someone email Bungie and tell them you should be able to go through the vault and codex when waiting for a match.

I'm pretty sure for solos it's 8 people in every map right?

>>563937494
highest kills I've gotten was 6.

>>563939021
Same. I know 7 is Bungie's favourite number but I'm pretty sure they wouldn't make it a weird number like that for lobby size. My 6 was on outpost and that's already a small as hell map. 12 or 10 would mean there'd have to be way more noise on something like Dire Marsh. Perimeter couldn't function beyond 8 I think

level-based matchmaking must have kicked in when I got in high 40s. I've seen more people with blue shields.
Half of my deaths in solos over the last few days have been from snipers, which has never happened until recently.

>>563929210
No Meele upgrades saar :)

I know how you feel, 3 wedks ago i got to jump a thief with green shields, gave her the whole samurai combo.
Dude just turned around, gave me heavy and i was down.
Thats when i noticed that the upgrade system is ass and i shouldnt engage without upgrades.
Shit game.

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Where totally going to upper Complex someday.

>>563932983
You can use the wstr anywhere there's a building. The only counterplay to it is grenades.

>>563932983
Have you played Dire Marsh literally at all?

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Apparently, Pinwheel is supposed to be reusable.

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>>563943559
Thief has the second highest melee base stat in the game.
That said heavy shouldn't one shot unless you're not at full health.

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Probably hard to verify, but UESC will only make an alert sound because they saw someone, right? Say they saw you recently and you're still in the vicinity, they won't just randomly alert to spook you?

>>563944112
Yeah; on the Marathon if you look out the window you can see a bunch of pinwheels on the ship hull. Lore wise Outpost was the first "touchdown" spot for the colonists, so it makes sense to have a bunch of habitable mega structures if need be

>>563944198
they will make that sound when they see someone, this is when their eyes go yellow, or when they see a killed uesc

>>563944198
They make the alert noise in response to sounds too. Sometimes they can make noises and get spooked though even if you're completely hidden cause the game's made of spaghetti code and they'll just see you through walls, or see parts of your character you don't realise are glitching through walls/sticking out

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Hauler has tire tracks north of it.

>>563944198
Correct it just functions poorly and will often trigger through walls and doors

Are there any human UESC? Where the fuck are all these robots coming from?

>literal gay roblox robots
>1 (one) alien that alluha ackbars on you and doesn't even shoot
And people want PvE?

>>563944579
>where the fuck are all these robots coming from?
The game really tries to beat around the bush on basically everything to do with the specifics of being here but from what I get both the UESC and all the runners are launching from a single ship in orbit called the Equanimity
I have no clue exactly why we can teleport places but the UESC robots are using flying ships and shit to ferry troops, I really don't get how the entire conflict is supposed to be working from the onset (and I suspect Bungie doesn't either because every detail about how any of this works is pretty carefully avoided)

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What the hell is that thing in the middle of Cryo Archive? At first, I thought it was some sort of an AI core, but it can be entered with level 3 clearance and has 8 command chairs inside.

>>563944749
>>563944579
There might literally be no humans alive. Runners are cyborg shells, UESC are robots, faction representatives are AI. If Bungie pulls the "oooooh all of the humans, even in Sol, died/were enslaved by the Pfhor!" angle I'm gonna be really pissed because it's a lame reveal.

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Holy fuck. I can see why Cryo is called MARATHON_DECK_01.

>>563944951
I doubt they're gonna go that angle, that everything even back in Sol is dead, but I wouldn't be too surprised to learn they decided to send an entirely AI/digitized conscious/maybe a battleroid secretly and no actual living humans out to check out wtf happened.

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>>563944579
There's an assumption that they sent a squad into the Marathon ship itself since there's cracked helmets you can collect that could potentially be human, but other then that I think they're avoiding sending humans since all the evidence seems to point that Tau Ceti evolved to become hostile to human life, to the point you could just randomly explode if you walk near the anomaly or get all your flesh melted off by a tick. Even in Cryo with the Compiler and poison gas traps its probably better to let the bots or shells do the work.
>>563944951
Humans are still definitely alive, it's probably just cheaper to send non-humans like shells and bots out.

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>>563944271
There they are.

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>>563945229
Daym. It's called Pinwheel because it pins into the ground and deploys a wheel.

>>563945315
Bravo Ziegler

i hope they make free kit fill a permanent gamemode

>>563945401
They should just make a BR mode and split the playerbase so casuals/intermediates can enjoy BR and the sweats/no lifes can enjoy their hArDcOrE extraction slop

>>563945106
IIRC in the original ARG there are messages between UESC officials and they decide against sending battleroids to Tau Ceti because it would be seen as an aggressive move by the colonists. They didn't know at the time that they were all dead though. I'm not sure lore-wise how many times Sol has travelled back and forth to Tau Ceti since, if at all.

>>563945969
to be fair the contingent of 10 battleroids was completely secret to almost everyone in the original ones. It wouldn't be out of place if one was smuggled aboard without knowledge. We're runners apparently (?) sorta hiding out on the Equanimity doing corpo dirty work. One way or another they brought the means to wage war, a battleroid being "too much" is pretty dumb when no one would know.

Are the sponsored corpo kits only free once? Do they refresh daily or weekly or anything?

>>563944483
>the simplest environmental design imagineable
>engine gets maybe half the frames other games with arguably larger scale and better visuals like Arc raiders get
>also after like 30 years of multiplayer shooters the netcode has a lot of lag and rollbacks/rubberbanding
maybe bungie are just fucking incompetent

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Assassin being bald was retconned.

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>>563947213
Also, character decals are stored as a separate texture, which I find funny.

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>>563947356
And I have no idea what this thing on his belt is.

>>563946378
Always free, you can get as many as you want. The sponsor source is refreshed daily. You can even bring a kit from a different sponsor from today's one to the experimental mode. Bringing a Nucal kit on CyAc or Traxus day gives you an advantage.

>>563945045
whats the name of that viewer again? ive seen it online recently, but i didnt save it.

>>563948059
Deimos. https://github.com/cohaereo/Deimos-Public
But if you want to export, you'll need MIDA. https://github.com/DeltaDesigns/MIDA

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>check what broader community is saying about the game in general
>everyone is MAD about the wstr changes for some fucking reason
>convinced some secret SBMM was enabled
>most people think low skill level players have actually done compiler at least once
I thought most anons here were retarded but how can anyone play this game for a full day and not realise the WSTR was just objectively broken? How are people assuming that people who work a 9-5 have somehow not only gotten their hands on a contraband vault key, but then managed to successfully do a cryo run and exfil with the subroutine so they can potentially do compiler? How is there a large majority of the player base that looks at guns like the Hardline or Scar and are like
>”yeah theyre actually on the same level as the long shot and bully”

It’s horrifying to think that there’s not only such a large amount of these morons but that Bungie is potentially listening to them for future feedback and changes.

>>563948163
thank you, anon!

>>563948175
Scar is fine.

>>563944579
If you listen to the logs from the mida missions, it sounds like the robots are remotely piloted by humans

>>563948175
9-5er here. My team has subroutines 1-4. It's taken some time but we will get to the compiler.

>>563948175
Whoever decided the double barrel shotgun should get stack overflow needs to explode
I don't really even like stack overflow at all honestly, dumb mechanic

tranny game sadly

>>563942346
What were the levels of the guys who killed you

>>563949708
wokeshit company
wokeshit game

>>563948175
>most people think low skill level players have actually done compiler at least once
probably no more than like 2000 people have actually fought it

Can someone explain to me the fucking matchmaking
I'm somehow being matched against people who are 70 levels above me

>>563947213
cause they made him black

>>563953321
the game is just that dead

>>563953490
What is he supposed to be? Spanish?

>>563953321
I'm ~40 getting matched with 130s in poverty marsh, it's fucked.

>>563953574
looking at that pic
yeah probably, thats pretty mexican-coded

>>563953490
I think it's the other way around. Assassin seemed a lot more black in the cinematic, down to voice acting. But in the actual game, he neither looks nor sounds black.

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I would not be surprised in the slightest if Bungie has their heads in their hands over the Cryo stats, seeing that the same like 10 people are the only ones doing vaults and compiler over and over. Zero shot normal players are getting out with good loot.

>>563953321
>>563953590
They implemented SBMM and now no one is happy.

>>563935139
Atleast 10 need to be removed. Ideally there should only be 6 - 6 for solo runs, 3 for teams.

>>563953718
I don't see how an average person can do it, I was watching just a regular marathon video recommended to me
>YEA GUYS SO TO FIGHT THE COMPILER
>YOU HAVE TO DO THESE 6 VAULTS
>THAT DONT GUARANTEE THE DROP
>I DID THIS VAULT 7 TIMES BEFORE GETTING THE KEY

>Perimeter and Darsh reward shit-tier loot
>Outpost has at best a couple purple or gold lore items and maybe a blue weapon
So what is even my incentive for kitting up? Risk 12 purples with randos for fucking codex entries? Loot needs buffed across the board if they want me to use anything but a free kit.

>>563953883
>>THAT DONT GUARANTEE THE DROP
They are guaranteed now.

>>563953992
What's the point of loot if you aren't using it?

>>563953725
When did that do that?

>>563954165
That's kind of my point. The only reason to kit up is to risk it for the chance to get better/more gear, that's the extraction shooter loop. Except this game holds back all good sources of loot to one room on the weekdays, which you then have to fight teammates to split. It's like risking a $1000 bet for a $100 payout if you even win.

>>563944909
Look up what a panopticon is, anon. It's used to surveil the people on the Marathon.

I went from risking my best loot in fill trios and having a good time in my first few weeks with the game, to now never touching fills and hoarding all my gear, dying once in solos, and no longer having any fun. The fill experience is atrocious now that people have gotten good at the game, and the level based matchmaking shit has to go.

This garbage freeshitter lobby mode also has to go. Without a lower skill player population, the normal game is sweaty as fuck and it sucks ass.

Perimeter has no loot. Dire Marsh is freekit land and normal queue is impossible. Outpost is unplayable also thanks to free kit land. Cryo is obviously out of the question.

What the fuck happened to this game.

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>>563954925
I know what a panopticon is. But all those bizarre warning don't make sense for a surveillance station.

>>563955029
i think the main theory is that the population is so low that the stronger are eating the weaker on repeat. you can see on this thread that people are getting matched with runners 40-70 levels higher than them.
the weak eventually get tired of getting farmed and quit, leaving more opportunities for the next in line to get farmed by those stronger.
in the end, most likely only the hardcore discord premades will remain

>>563944646
It is enough.

>>563950060
60ish, some were 100+