>>2188788
>wasting dubs on this rancid dogshit

A thread died for this singular announcement.
That makes this thread based and eligible for receiving the mandate of heaven.

>>2189088
It's also supposed to be the not!general thread

I would just like to say that I fucking called it being Lu Bu back when they first announced a new chinese hero

>>2193056
It was a fairly safe bet but congrats anyways. I myself called Sohei a few months in advance

>>2188788
What DW is this?
Is this like DW15 or something?

>>2194338
To be fair mid lane kind of is DW in a can

>>2188788
>Dubs
WE ARE INVINCIBLE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6iX0aiIcYls The official trailer

>>2193056
Literally everyone called that, and the fact that virt was female after the previous hero was also female cemented that fact

So is he a heavy or a hybrid?

>>2193056
is Lu Bu like a real guy or something?

>>2197436
Every character in RoTK is a real person, just very embellished in the same way various major figures of Japan's warring states period or America's wild west were.

>>2188788
they already gave the fat jap an OHKO what could they possibly give lu bu to make him feel more broken

>>2198336
If you purse him you die
If he's on your team it'll be a 5 v 3

>>2188788
Do not pursue

If they don't break the alternating faction pattern then it looks like we're getting male knight a year from now

>>2199229
>kn*ght

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>>2199276
I almost missed you

>>2199281
You're confusing me with the retard, I'm the China guy.

His feats look really funny but for honor players are retarded so it's going to be insufferable having him on your team

>>2199293
>can clear his own minion lane
>actively benefits from fucking over his own team
>feats 2 and 4 are big fat "fuck you team" buttons.

Lmao people are going to be throwing games with his feats.
Ultimate troll character

Community Corner is so awkward.

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Suck it pasta whore

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>>2199527

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>>2199530

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>>2199533

Thank you screenshot Anon I couldn't bring myself to sit through that after they finished showing Lu Bu

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Who here buyin' the merch?
https://kidkatana.com/shop/for-honor

>>2199835
I don't really like this game's ost

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>>2197436
He was a real person who played a crucial role in the Three Kingdoms period of Chinese history

he's like a minor deity of both spear combat and cavalry

btw Jiang Jun is also literally just the real life person Guan Yu (whose famously heavy glaive, the Guan Dao is what JJ uses) who was one of the most important heroes of the Three Kingdoms period

pic related is Guan Yu

>>2199527
fuck yeah
stupid faggot bitch

>>2199530
good changes
now just make pommel strike usable in all 3 directions

>>2199533
giving Gryphon more anti-ganking tools that don't affect his 1v1 strength is good
giving Ocelotl hyperarmor on his stance attack (which is the only one he has) is good because sometimes I wonder what the point of his stance even is

>>2199540
warmonger needed to lose the medium hit reaction because of how it interacted with ledging
but she did not need her quick bash followup to chain into her hyperarmor heavy finishers

valk change is whatever

shaolin change is not really necessary, but it's pretty minor so w/e

>>2199965
>>2197436
also a defining characteristic of Lu Bu was that he would betray people, but because he was such a combat god, people would take him into their service anyway even though they knew hed probably betray them at some point

thats why the new character's feats are all about throwing your allies under the bus

They nerfed Virtuosa into the ground and this game is now unplayable.

>>2201952
Kill all italians

more like cindy lu bu, more like lu who. lmao got em. cultivate this and court death

>>2199540
blink is such horseshit to dodge even if you predict it 7 years in advance I've been mid roll sometimes and it ends my roll animation to cut to me getting kicked in the asshole that move has to just be bugged

Juren lookin like straight cancer we will NOT be there on release [100 emoji] [100 emoji]

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Funniest character when I'm playing him and most cancerous character when my teammate is playing him award

>>2199527
Holy shit I can play this game again

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Nice! my top 3 mains all got buffed and Ocelotl

>Warmonger
I would have preferred being able to bash after a heavy but really interested to see how WM plays now she can light bash light bash

>Gryphon
Chain extender is nice with some antigank versatility

>Valk
Undoing one of her rework nerfs. Will have to see if it actually does much

>Ocelotl
I have wanted this for so long. Stance has dodge properties on start up and I use it quite often. Now I can at least trade or jump into a fight and spam hyperarmor zones

>>2202808
>see how WM plays now she can light bash light bash
no no it's just that her basic bash followup now chains to her finisher heavy
WM doesn't have finisher lights
so basically now what will happen is
>neutral or side bash (uncharged) > followup light > finisher heavy
instead of just stopping after the light

at least thats how I understand this

>>2202821
Maybe I got it all wrong but I swear JC said something about looping into bash like waden saying WM now has a 'vortex'

>>2202945
then JC is a retard who messed up his barebones powerpoint

>>2202821
Just double checked WM doesn't have chain finisher lights but preying claw stab will now chain into an enhanced light which can chain into preying claw again. So light bash light light bash

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there are cheaters playing this game
report them for it
they do eventually get banned

Playing this game while rusty is so brutal. I'm losing almost every fight

>>2199527
>stance drains stamina
this should be applied to all full blocks
I dont understand how that fat retarded faggot JC doesnt understand that these are the same thing
>virtuousa standing still drains stamina
>kyoshin waving his weapon around like a retard doesnt drain stamina
bravo you worthless frog

>>2206644
because virtuosa stance dodges EVERYTHING all other fullblocks are effected by bashes, unblockables, projectiles and feats

>>2206861
they should all still drain stamina
just make Virtuosa's drain it faster
a BP will just sit in his stance forever, and just be perfectly safe by throwing out his UB and feinting it

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>new hero
>chinese

>>2207591
as much as I hate the CCP, it is certainly true that China is one of the great civilizations of human history
figures like Guan Yu, Cao Cao, and Lu Bu are genuinely cool to learn about

the only knight I want at this point is a Landsknecht (specifically a dopplesoldner with a zweihander)

>>2207591
I mean there's only so many variants of medieval knights they can use.

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>>2207984
Knights have two romans and a guy cosplaying as everything other than knights clogging up their roster. There's plenty they could do

>>2208430
Yes such as more chinese warriors.

This is probably one of the only few things keeping ubislop alive, huh.

>>2209602
It seems to be turning a profit on a shoestring budget

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>>2208430
landsknecht hero...

wtf wtf Lu Bu is really fun

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yeah im adding this chinese faggot on my no-fight list

>>2212234
Are there any characters that are not on it?

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>>2212235
wym the only ones on it are
>virtuosa
>beserker
>raider
>warlord
>valk
>shaman
>hammer fuck
>shinobi
>orochi
>single sword ronin dude
>axe samurai
>all the chinese
>all the 4th faction

>>2212254
whoops forgot shugoki too

I posted one of our two threads of the year on /v/

>>2212254
So you just quit the game if the enemy team has someone who isn't a knight?

so what does the newest wulin do, win when chosen at the selection screen because of his impeccable social credit score?

>>2212606
If you pursue him you lose
If he's on your team you lose, he still wins however

wait why is Virtuosa not a Knight character, but Grphon is??????

>>2212911
Virtuosa isn't a knight because in the lore she disagrees with their philosophy (lol, lmao). There is no real justification for Gryphon being a knight.

The only outlander I want is a not!Conan

>>2212962
bro, your highlander?
he has an armor set type with a Conan-style belt

>>2199530
Oh shit kensei buffs

>>2212911
The Outlanders idea came later

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>installed the game after a while again
>play 2 matches
>remember why I quit last time

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>>2213687
this finna be me in 2 hours no cap

>>2212606
can infinitely chain basic lights, heavies, and chain bashes
but he also has charge versions of literally every move, including a charged GB (a grab)
charged moves end the chain
he has a lot of neutral 100ms hyperarmor

>lu bu's chain bash animation has a special variation if you do it on khatun
Wtf sovl

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>>2212967
Corporate wants you to find the difference between these two pictures

>>2214308
>load into first breach match getting spawncamped by the enemy (j*ang j*n and 3x new aids hero)
never change you piece of shit

>>2214710
where is his Atlantean sword

>>2212606
hyperarmor spam
unblockable with a massive hitbox spam
thats about it

IT IS WORTH POINTING OUT
one of Juren's T2 options is Thick Skin, which is otherwise only ever available to more "nimble" characters like Peacekeeper, Shaolin, and Zhanhu (and VG also has it)
but he's the first character with this feat who has hyperarmor, let alone this much hyperarmor
if you want to trade like crazy and anti-gank, then Thick Skin is probably a better choice than No Friend of Mine

his T3 is genuinely amazing though
a passive that automatically buffs you when allies are dead is a great tool

a Juren with 3 dead teammates is unkillable if people are trying to gank him
>is constantly healing with the T3 feat every time he lands an attack
>every time he gets revenge he heals 40 HP from Thrilling Comeback
I just watched a guy stall the entire enemy team for 5+ minutes

>>2212542
in team modes I avoid fighting them 1v1, or just stall till allies get close
in duels, I give them a free win or if they refuse to, I just pull the cable

People called medjay for having gigantic hitboxes and hyperarmor out the ass

Juren is like that but half the moves are unblockables on top of that

>>2216858
*called medjay overpowered

>>2215959
His t4 slot is pretty sad though. His unique is very situational and the other options are arrow storm *gags* and regenerate *retches*. His unique is actually really, really bad if you're defending in breach

this chinese faggot's animations are so spastic its an eyesore to fight

Ubisoft is waaaaaay too fucking incompetent to pull it off, but can you imagine a For Honor action RPG?
>can find / unlock different types of weapons
>can unlock different moves for those weapons so that are pulled from different character's movesets
Like you could have a "polearm" weapon class, and could learn moves from Sohei, Lawbringer, Jiang Jun, Nobushi, etc.
>moves take up resources for a loadout
>the more properites a move has, the more resources it takes up
>over the course of the game you unlock a greater capacity for more moves with more properties
something like that

>>2217159
A ubislop RPG? Rather not see it.
We either getting a far cry or an assassins creed shadows, or both. Neither is a good thought.

I'm pretty sure the opener heavy that acts as a throw is unblockable for some reason. It constantly ghosts through my guard.

>>2217409
like I said, they're too incompetent
and frankly they have shit taste as well

before Juren there were 3 characters with extended dodges in the game
>Jiang Jun - 900ms - 22 damage (large sweeping hitbox)
>Warmonger - 900ms - 24 damage unblockable (small hitbox)
>Tiandi - 1100ms - 25 damage (small hitbox)
but for some reason Juren has a weird unique timing on his and an unfortunate (for everyone else) hitbox and property pairing
>Juren - 866ms - 22 damage unblockable (large sweeping hitbox)
I don't know what the purpose of his dodge attack being 33ms faster than Warmonger and JJ (the most closely comparable)
and the fact that it's unblockable and has a large sweeping hitbox is some unprecedented strength
this makes him a MONSTER in crowded teamfights because the only way to properly punish this move is with a GB (good luck getting off a GB while antiganking, unlike with parrying where the enemy has to be patient or risk getting caught in a multi-parry chain)
he can pretty safely spam this while target swapping and dish out tons of nigh-unavoidable damage to multiple foes
even if you parry it, it only nets a heavy parry punish

if Ubisoft wants him to keep this hitbox and keep the move unblockable, then they need to nerf the damage down to something like 19 or 20

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the fastest ki8lling universal execution is the That's Cannon, which kills in 2200ms and lasts7800ms

anything faster than 2200ms is automatically a unique strength, and having perks or feats that can boost that strength are worth speculating on

***this is only for 50 HP executions, which are the only ones that really matter

if an Orochi gets a kill in a teamfight, they can heal themselves 105 HP often before anyone can stop them

Was conq nerfed to shit or something? I haven't played in years and his impact is not as strong.

the unblockable zone is insane but people should be catching it way more, it should not work as often as it does especially in 1v1s

>>2220426
Have you played post rework? He got a rework at one point that completely changed how he plays, namely giving him an infinite unblockable chain and lots of soft feints

>>2220824
people aren't used to his animations yet so when you see an unblockable you're thinking
>okay this his zone?
>is this his dodge attack?
>is this his neutral heavy?
>is this his chain heavy?
and yeah, you could say people are dumb for mixing up his zone and chain heavy
but you see that zone and think SURELY this is a feintable move
and people are also getting caught up by the timing as well
people dont realize how fucking slow it is

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>it's a teammate is ignoring the ram, rampart, banner, killing the enemy team, saving allies from ganks, and picking up boosts to soften up the guardian before the enemies steal that kill episode

>>2222552
>playing breach at all
first mistake

>>2222881
It wouldn't be so bad if the people who play this game weren't so unfathomably retarded.

>>2222895
I think it's just a fundamentally anti-casual gamemode

whose going to win this 45 minute long match is genuinely decided during the first 5 minutes in 90% of matches

does juren have any voice lines at all or is it just retard growls

>>2223288
According the Chinese players his Chinese is fucked up.

>>2223288
?
have you played the game since the update?
he's constantly shouting shit in chinese
now maybe chinese sounds like retarded growling to you

move Gryphon and Warmonger to the Outlanders faction

that frees up two Knight slots

now they can add Hoplite and Landsknecht

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>>2225927
>Hoplite
>landsknect
>knights

people hate the 400ms lights on highlander
I would like to see the following changes
>side offensive stance light attacks are now 600ms undodgeable "zone" attacks
>top offensive stance light attack remains unchanged
and give him the following extra move
>neutral 433ms bash that doesn't confirm any damage, but fast flows to offensive stance with frame advantage
oh and fix the hyperarmor timing on his neutral heavies
he currently only has a 100ms window of hyperarmor

>>2226059
>centurion
>gladiator
>knights

>>2226073
I agree, Centurion and Gladiator should also be outlanders

>>2226073
Offensive form lights just need to not be enhanced. That's it, that's the only change that needs to be made, neutral bashes can't be faster than 600ms for obvious reasons nor does Highlander need one since they can flow to offensive form easily.

>>2226485
>neutral bashes can't be faster than 600ms for obvious reasons
am I misreading or misunderstanding what you're saying?
because that just sounds like a straight up lie
>Centurion
>Tiandi
>Orochi
>Sohei
>Gladiator
>Gryphon
>Shaolin
>Lawbringer
>Jiang Jun
>Black Prior
>Medjay
>Shinobi
>Jormungandr
>Warlord
>Zhanhu
>Juren
>Ocelotl
>Conqueror
>Varangian Guard
>Virtuosa
>Kyoshin
all have 433ms bashes you fucking liar
stop fucking lying

Highlander has almost zero viable openers
his only opening tool is his zone and it's not a super great opener at that
>Ubisoft are retarded fags who fucked up his neutral heavy hyperarmor frames so those are out
>Celtic Curse is just straight up reactable so it can't be used to open on opponents that aren't lethargic retards
>light attacks just parried because what else is Highlander going to open with? well it's not his zone so it must be a light
>just holding heavy to manually flow to OS just gets you GBd
giving him a bash that doesn't net any damage and fast flows would be a balanced way of giving him an opener

Highlander has PLENTY of trading tools and defensive tools, but if you just STARE at him there isn't really much he can do about it

>>2227639
>am I misreading or misunderstanding what you're saying?
Yes you're confusing forward dodge bashes which have input delays of 100ms to 300ms with neutral bashes of which only: gladiator, afeera, virtuosa, black prior, and shugoki have. Shaolin, Virtuosa and Highlander have 500ms neutral bashes from stance only.

They can't be faster than 600ms because of frame advantage.

>guy just casually parries every light without mistake
yep, thats a disconnect

>>2229653
please remember to report
they will eventually get banned... eventually

>>2229655
oh im sure they werent cheating, im just not dealing with these sweats

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>>2229668
report them anyway

if a team has a highlander, im out

>>2229669
I do this because i'm a petty faggot. I report for offensive emblems, quite often I will get the "thanks we have acted on your report" pop up when I log in. Then I see trannies seething on reddit because their emblems got wiped

>>2230269
sorry bro
rule of cool says that I am required to play the giant sword guy

Juren is the best Dom hero overall, at least for big brawly team fights
>hyperarmor spam
>planet sized hitboxes
>shit ton of sweeping unblockables to external with
>T3 that passively turns him into a god so he can stall like crazy while still being offensive
>retardedly good at minion clear where he takes out half of the minions with his initial sprint attack
>140 HP
>full block but just so he can block externals
it seems the only thing they DIDNT give him was heavy perks

I can't even fucking block lights anymore it's never been this over for me

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do you try to recreate characters from other media /fhg/?

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>reporting every taunt spammer for griefing because I know ubi sissies would unironically punish someone for that

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>>2234188
not really
the customization is too limited to faithfully recreate anyone unless your hero is already inspired by them or closely related

though I would like to see someone make a White Beard out of Jiang Jun

>Kyoshin's stance still doesn't drain stamina
>he just sits there in a gank not having to think at all
>if you clip his guard you are now subject to a 2s pin that stacks bleed
nigger devs

is the game still on a skeleton crew? i left when we lost cool animations on killing grunts.

>>2235269
p much

>>2235269
It's less skeleton than before but still skeleton

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>>2234380
>just recieved a message that the user was in breach of TOS and has been punished
lmao

>try to 1v1 a Juren
>get option selected
yeah

>nobushi still gets 35 damage undodgeable heavies

This game would be significantly more fun if it was a hard rule that you are never allowed to cancel the recovery of an unblockable attack under any circumstances.
>try to dodge attack the Juren's unblockable dodge attack
>he just goes full block and just takes chip damage instead
or
>perfectly space a BP's unblockable heavy
>they cancel the recovery with a flip and get to punish your punish
>there is no alternative because you arent able to GB if you're away from the BP
or
>roach lets their unblockable fly and you now have to make a second and third read on not only will they dodge recovery cancel or not but also on whether or not they will cancel the recovery with an empty dodge or a dodge attack
it's just not fun to play against

>>2236650
>there is no alternative because you arent able to GB if you're away from the BP
You shouldn't go for a GB anyway since the heavy is a chain starter

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>>2235269
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQc14LqIVqU
>mfw it's been 7 fucking years since the desoulification of the minion lane

The devs need to address how dogshit GBs are in teamfights

Because these retarded French negroids keep designing moves / situations that are only punishable by GB
>two virtuosa's are ganking you
>if you try to GB either of them, the other just hits you with a heavy attack so are never allowed to punish the GB without trading (and usually you cant even trade, but instead just get hit out of your punish)
it's just retarded
landing a GB needs to instantly grant you like 80% base damage reduction (which can be further augmented multiplicatively with anti-gank DR as well as feat DR)

this wouldn't affect duels at all since if youve landed a GB in a duel, then your opponent cant attack you anyway

>>2237399
I'm going to say it, the old minions looked better.

>>2239191
Old for honor looked better
>minions with faces covered
>heroes with faces covered
>no oc donutsteels in the roster
>top quality mo-cap animations
>actual exections instead of wacky fortnite looney tunes shit
>actual lighting and weather effects
Nothing ever gets better in this torture dimension it only gets worse, stagnation and decay is our only fate

ran into a lawtard turtling like it was 2017 today. I'm so glad the CCU fixed the game

it's still impossible to get revenge against anyone who is in a queue together

If your character doesn't have Flesh Wound or Thick Skin you should probably just kill yourself now

juren is just good at everything

4 jurens just spamming the kick at you while youre in revenge will stunlock you and also melt your HP
>yeah let's add a damaging pinning bash that chains into itself
absurd

>>2241026
actually let me append that
if you don't have easy access to frequent damage reduction, then you're fucked (when getting ganked at least)
>Thick Skin (25% DR for 3 seconds after getting hit)
>Flesh Wound (20% DR for 3 seconds after getting hit)
>Righteous Deflection (50% DR for 5 seconds after parrying an attack)
>VG gets 50% DR for 5 seconds every time she blocks an attack with her full block
with the caveat that you might not need the DR if you have easy access to frequent healing, which is harder to come by except on a small handful of characters
but holy shit if you have NEITHER then you're just fucked
unless the people ganking you are just retarded, you just wont survive the damage you take from the gank setups people can still do
>oh boy I got revenge with 15 HP left again
>the enemies all just instantly roll 20 feet away
>my character doesn't have good chase
>revenge ends without dealing any damage
>die
I just
fuck man
it's so frustrating

Sorry guys remember the giant obese retard said game knowledge is fasle depth so you better buy Juren.

>>2243500
but I don't want to be chinese!!!!!
NOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

LIST OF CHANGES THAT WOULD SAVE CASUAL DOMINION
>add an HP damage dealt column to the scoreboard (so that you can tell if someone is dealing lots of damage, but getting cucked out of kills)
*damage dealt to shields does NOT count
>add a revenge points given column (so you can more easily discern who is throwing or otherwise doesn't know how to gank)
Ubi would never dream of adding this though
>make it so that the entire team progresses their feats based off of a shared renown pool (stalling 3 enemies while not on an objective doesn't give you any renown, but is EXTREMELY strategically for winning a match)
>make it so that if your revenge meter is over 50% full, the progress becomes invisible to enemies so they don't know exactly how close you are
idea stolen from Slanderous

>>2244494
>>add an HP damage dealt column to the scoreboard (so that you can tell if someone is dealing lots of damage, but getting cucked out of kills)
Useless metric in this game since damage doesn't correlate to anything. In OW, for example, being able to see damage and healing dealt lets you track ult charge.

>>add a revenge points given column (so you can more easily discern who is throwing or otherwise doesn't know how to gank)
You don't need this since you can visually see revenge meters and it's easy to discern who feeds.

>make it so that the entire team progresses their feats based off of a shared renown pool
No, since that would lead to huge snowballing, especially when it comes to whomever controls the minion lane.

>>2244745
>useless metric
it's no more useless than the arbitrary rules for what counts as an "elimination"
>if youve touched an enemy within 5 seconds of their death, it counts as an elim
so you get retards running over to an enemy that you are about to kill and then get into a single bash, accomplishing nothing, just so they can get an elim
or hell
>did you apply a shield to someone?
>okay well now any kills they get while that shield is active will grant you an eilm
it's just silly
a damage dealt column would at least show who is actually contributing

>Shaman, a lightweight "assassin", gets Flesh Wound
>Jurean, a heavy as shit "hybrid", gets Thick Skin (which is just Flesh Wound but better)
hmmmmmmm

>>2188788
Literal who

Here's a small thing that confuses me about Kensei, kit design wise

So if you get a heavy parry you can punish with 3 things
>zone
>neutral light
>forward dodge light attack
here's the thing
the neutral light deals 12 damage and only chains into chain moves, not finisher moves
meanwhile the forward dodge light deals 14 damage and chains directly to finishers
both the neutral light and the forward dodge light attack consume 9 stamina
just kind of weird
there is seemingly zero reason to ever punish a heavy parry with a neutral light
at least the zone has a purpose after heavy parry for anti-ganking

They banned quick chats unless you age verify in the UK.
You'll start seeing a bunch of muted chat symbols by names lol.

>>2248680
>can't spam Wow! anymore
Thanks!
Thanks!
Thanks!

Lawbringer is such a fucking shore to fight.

Orochi's kick animation is so fucking garbage.

>>2250893
yep
dont you love that EVERY attack he throws is inherently followed by a 50/50 on whether hes going to immediately chain bash or not

Juren's unblockable dodge attack needs to be slowed down
it's currently 866ms while Warmonger and JJ's are both 900ms
Tiandi's is 1100ms
I'd be in favor of slowing Juren's all the way down to 1000ms, given its properties and hitbox
give it extra i-frames to compensate if you must, but the gap between his regular side dodge attacks and his charged side dodge attacks is so small that you have to make a double read literally every time you force him to make a read

>>2254381
Cool post but to nerf Lu Bu would be to pursue him...

This game looks like such an impossible grind. Fastest way to hitting rep just for fashion gameplay.

>>2254773
Do your orders, play Breach vs AI

there is no making a "read" when dueling a Juren
there is only blind guesswork
this nigger character chains directly into
>a quick chain bash
>a charge bash
>unblockable heavy
>undodgable light
>hyperarmor chain heavy
Jesus fucking Christ
you are just so fucked when fighting this guy
if you arent a reaction god where you can just react to what he does, you're just doomed to gamble everytime he leaves neutral
FUCK

>>2254773
pick 3 or 4 characters to try to main
preferably with each being a different """clas"""
and each being from a different faction
this is because there are orders which require
>play as a certain "class"
>play as a certain faction
>play as 4 different heroes across matches
and similar little semi-daily challenges
youll get more steel (the currency) this way

so you'd want something like
>Kensei (Vanguard and Samurai)
>Highlander (Hybrid and Viking)
>Conqueror (Heavy and Knight)
>Nuxia (Assassin and Wu Lin)
but that's restricting your choice in who you play a lot for a small amount of extra steel

I wish they'd go the CS route of removing backfill bots
that is to say they should remove bots and instead give the smaller team a strategic bonus based on the number of missing players
something like
>faster renown gain
>faster objective capture speed
>lower respawn cooldown
something like that

anything would be preferable to bots who exist as nothing more than Revenge and Renown dispensaries for the enemy team

i stopped playing this game when they removed the unique minion kill animations each hero had. they said it was because it wasnt fair that some heroes had faster kills than others but we all know its because they were too lazy to make new ones for the chinks

also doing face reveals for the heroes instead of keeping them as faceless captains was a mistake.

Literally what was the point of Varangian.

>>2229669
Reports are useless in this board anon...

>>2260355
>what if Aramusha could chain directly to an unblockable heavy after punishing a GB with a heavy?
>what if we made a character that CCs on literally every light attack, including finishers
and most importantly
>what if we owned the chuds by making the VG, an exclusively male historical viking unit, a female genderlocked character
niggersoft prank

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>>2260269
reminder than you can make a viking as black as soot in this game, but you can't make medjay any paler than an Indian man from a lower caste

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>this game is STILL +110GB

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZi9RgO64PI
I was right about us getting a male knight (so long as they don't break the pattern) but I wasn't expecting them to go a year without an outlander. Looks like we're getting wmaf. Four skins in one season is crazy but my hopes for them not being reused asset crossover slop aren't high. Only one converted map is lame but it's better than none I guess.

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My kingdom for a girl Kyoshin

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>>2261922
>new kn*ght
>not new viking

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>>2262645
eat shit viknigga

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>>2262686
Kn*ggers need to go back

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>>2262693
perhaps you should go back to fucking trees

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>>2262716
Go back to your shite filled streets and eternal war with the french

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>>2262722
im surprised your unwashed ass even knows what street is

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>>2262724
I'm surprised you even wash your asses.

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>>2262729
tough words from someone who's highest level of plumbing is a fucking river

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>>2262732
You quite literally dump your poop onto the streets, no plumbing whatsoever. Literal street shitters, at least we return it to mother nature.

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>>2262735
>wow your car is dirty, we are much better because we dont even have cars for them to become dirty
go bang your sticks together or whatever you cavemen do

>>2262735
>>2262738
>juren’s victims

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>>2262738
"Yummy, I love the smell of poop on our streets! Disease?! Not my problem."

>>2262739
>Chinaman
4000 year history of jobbing to the monguls, LOL

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>>2262750
>yummy, I love the smell of poop on our EVERYTHING
you literally sleep where you shit vigger

>>2262750
>>2262754
This was the shitflinging that For Honor was built on. Bring me back

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Im howling laughing

1v1v1 is genuinely the most fun I have ever had in this game

I wonder what that coinflip guy would think if he saw Juren
>yeah so we added a character where his chains force his opponent to role a d8 after every move
it's honestly crazy how poorly thought out this character is
>what if he could just do whatever he wanted at all times

>they gave Juren's unblockable heavies a hidden indicator in order to make them harder to parry
genuinely what are these 60iq niggers at ubisoft thinking when they make these decisions?

>slow down almost every hold attack
>lower his damage across the board by 25%
>reduce the lifesteal granted by his T3 feat
>reduce the range he pushes opponents with his held bash (currently he is granted a shit ton of damage off of a heavy parry if his opponent is in the same zip code as a wall)
and now Juren starts to look like a somewhat balanced character

>duel
>they execute
if there's a thing worthy of a disconnect its that

>>2268737
it's one thing if it's just a little quick one
but if they use a really long one or the bell or spit one yeah that's just a DC

>>2268737
seethe

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>highlander hero skin has no cape
holy shit why
it would be so perfect with a big fur cape

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>>2274783
>Wan Piss
>Sharten Jump
We only read Young Animal here. Highlander should have a cape like Guts.

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>>2275755
what everyone (including me) wanted was just a Guts inspired skin

but Ubisoft are niggers (French) and thus have no taste

given the design they went with, the LEAST they could have done was give him a fur cape to go with the rest of his fur aesthetic

My only problem with the highlander skin is how fat the sword is

juren is the most spammy no-skill nigger character they have ever added

until juren gets a massive nerf this game is basically unplayable in Dom
best 1v1 character
best ganking character
best anti-ganking character
that nigger slanderous got what he wanted
they added Goku

>>2276514
??? Shaolin was already in the game, this is story accurate Lu Bu.

>>2276775
shaolin isnt covered in hyperarmor 24/7
shaolin doesnt have neutral 100ms hyperarmored option selects

>>2276898
Yeah but you said Goku, though.

>>2188788
I fucking wish Chinese were never added to this game
Marching Fire killed it

>>2277021
>goku
yeah exactly
an unkillable main-character god hero

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>>2277065
Shaolin is Son Goku, though

>>2277087
dude
shut up

>>2277089
>He doesn't have eyes with which to see mount Tai

yeah this is it, whenever there's a juren in the game, im pulling the plug.

Im gonna say it again

one of the main ways they need to balance Juren is making his "hold" moves longer, so the victim actually has some time to make a read

it would also give his animations more time to breathe

>coomer LOL I LOVE PORN name
>coomer icon
>shitter crutch character
>still plays like complete dogshit
yeah

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>>2279064
forgot image earlier

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Big fat Virt butts

>>2279759
built for rape
evil woman needs correction

HERE IS MY PROPOSED HIGHLANDER REWORK

part 1 - offensive stance light attacks
>replace his side offensive stance light attacks (the 400ms ones) with 600ms undodgeable "zone attacks"
>he retains his top 400ms light attack
this addresses one of the pain complaints people have with highlander, which is 400ms omnidirectional light spam

part 2 - offensive stance forward dodge attacks
>forward dodge light attack - no properties other than being enhanced - ALWAYS COMES FROM THE SIDE, NOT THE TOP
>forward dodge unblockable heavy attack (cannot be feinted, but is intended more as a longer range rollcatcher for when people are trying to just roll away and sprint away from your moveset, WHICH IS A BIG FUCKING PROBLEM FOR HIGHLANDER)
the main purpose of both is to give offensive form highlander more chase pressure, because right now you basically have to just permanently stay in light attack range, otherwise people can just choose not to fight you until you've unlocked

part 3 - defensive form
>fix the hyperarmor frames on his neutral heavies (he currently only gets 100ms at the end of the move)
>slow down his finisher heavies because my man doesnt need 600ms finisher heavies jesus fucking christ
>give him a forward dodge bash that doesn't secure any damage, but fast flows to offensive stance

part 4 - celtic curse
>normalize the speed of the side attacks to 600ms for each (right now one side is completely reactable at 700ms, and the other one is the only one people use as a result so its very easy to parry)
>maybe lower the damage a bit to compensate

Winged Hussar bros

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43K steel

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>>2283929
>>2284049
Why did Gryphon of all characters get the best skin in the game?

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>>2284049
*42K

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>>2284056

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>>2284061

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>>2284063

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>>2284066

>>2284066
Feat balance changes? They finally recovered the lost technology

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>>2284069

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>>2284073

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>>2284074
They shadow nerf valk twice with bounty hunter and stance stamina drain then fucking buff hito

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>>2284078

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>>2284082

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>>2284085

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>Still no Nuxia buffs or adjustments

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>>2284090
and thats it
might have miss heard but they said something about MUST play the event mode to level up the event pass which is just a fucking pain i hate 90% of event mode and only play them for orders against ai

>>2284078
In Hito's defense they kept nerfing after he was balanced because reddit wouldn't stop crying about him.

>>2284049
meh, the helmet kinda ruins it

>nothing for Highlander
>not even a small adjustment to his neutral heavies hyperarmor frames
I would honestly take nerfs at this point
I just want to feel something

>>2284049
well that's cool as fuck
gryphon mains are eating well as of late

Holy fuck the event gamemode looks so awes-
>the bosses are regular warden, warlord, and orochi in cosplay
Coal.

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these are two scripters who were playing in a 4 stack
they were the only ones being blatant in their stack, but there was a highlander who seemed to have a script set up for instantly going into a grab from unlock

the highlander's script would be doing something like
>lock on
>initiate a heavy
>instantly feint the heavy to fast flow
>dodge forward out of the fast flow transition (which is something that Highlander can do)
>the dodge count as the start of the forward dodge grab
and all of these inputs would happen instantly where he would just suddenly being launching at you when not even half a second prior he was just sprinting around the objective
he basically used a script to give highlander a new overpowered sprint attack

the other two didnt have anything so fancy and would just parry all neutral lights (though not much else strangely enough, being very comfortable just letting heavies fly and hit them, including unblockables)

the 4th guy was obviously just some poor fool who wasnt scripting

>>2284085
>>2284082
mmmmmm
good changes
Sohei will be harder to read now
because now you don't know if they're actively focusing on getting souls or not, where before it was a given

>>2284098
>>2284090
the stamina changes for this stance are completely irrelevant because the only use of the stance is to cancel recoveries in order to beat regular dodge attacks
NOBODY is holding this shit for more than half a second

>>2284069
wonderful change
indirectly nerfing BP's T2 with stamina drain is something I have wanted for years

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>increased gear inventory
>didnt increase loadout slots
WHATS THE FUCKING POINT UBI
I NEED MORE LOADOUT SLOTS

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>40k steel for the griff skin
FUCK YOU

Fuck the devs for making me grind this trash event mode. I cant even play vs ai. You have to play roughly 45 matches to finish the event pass. I have just been spawning in, let myself get killed, rubber banding the controller and going off to do something else

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>>2285558
Why are you doing it in a single day?

>>2285558
pretty much the same, I just rush in, get killed and then I watch shit on my second screen

>introduce a rapier character
>make it a female instead of a copy of Cyrano de Bergerac
Why? Nobody wants to play female characters

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>>2285757
>Nobody wants to play female characters

>>2285634
I'm not but you better get it done fast or (in my region) event modes are dead and unplayable in less than a week

new event is fun and I dont give a shit about anything in the pass

>>2284061
jj's already the most dominant 1vX character in the game why would you make him even better at that

this event has got to be the worst gamemode in for honor in its entire run
does anyone actually enjoy this?

>>2286579
>JJ best
I think he's strong, but he's definitely not the best anti-ganker or duelist. Easily shut down with liberal use of GBs.

>>2284056
>useless jobbers like conq and valkyrie catching strays instead of just specifically adjusting the characters that make the mechanic in question busted
boy am I glad I don't play this shit anymore

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>>2295793
>jobbers
Powerscaler

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>>2285757
I do

>>2287011
I enjoy it
the AI bosses are kinda stupid, but it just shows me that 2v2v2 would just be great chaotic fun

>>2295793
Valk arguably deserved it as much as Aramusha and BP given how people play her in ganks
>sit at the edge in stance
>if the enemy does anything you bash and go into your sweep every single time
the bash is (supposed to be) unreactable and they usually can't punish the sweep
maybe nerf the stamin drain a bit, but definitely still keep the stam drain

Conq shouldn't be affected though
sitting in all guard is not how he ganks and it doesnt make him OP in 1v1s

Warlord SHOULD be affected, though the stam drain shouldn't be as punishing as it is for BP and Kyoshin

Juren should frankly have the change reversed and then INCREASE the stamina cost of entering his stance
he needs tons of nerfs, and nerfing his ability to hold his shitty all guard for more than half a second was not one of them

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>load into match
>Juren on enemy team
>leave
no

met another 4 stack of scripters
I think playing dom during the weekdays is fucked
good lord

>revenge still isnt passively superarmored or GB invulnerable
>if you throw an opponent in revenge and actually try to punish it, their teammate can just GB you after your punish and stunlock the rest of your revenge by throwing you into a wall and rolling away
>only heavy characters gets shields after revenge so you just die instantly after the 8 seconds is up
it's profound how dogshit theyve allowed revenge to be in order to jack off the niggersweat esport clows that play this game "competitively" (which just boils down to who can 100-0 gank more consistently)
GOD I fucking hate this game

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>>2309260
I'm seeing videos of model fuckery now on r*ddit.

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>800ms heavy
>hyperarmor starts at 700ms
for what purpose

Juren should only be allowed to use his charged bash when trying to chain bash
the pinning chain bash needs to go

three options
>reduce or remove the renown rewards for killing bots
>increase the HP of bots by at least 50%
>remove bots entirely and give the team thats missing a player a bonus to renown or respawn times or something
do SOMETHING because bots are currently worse than just not having a player
they are an active hindrance

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>rep 97 on raider
>0 and 11
how?

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Whenever I get into a Game of Thrones mood, I boot up Honor and play a knight for a few hours.

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I can't access the april fools mode

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>>2323080
shit me too man
>>2285502

>>2323080
childhood is being a liberal faggot who thinks Robert Baratheon is just a mean chud >:^(((

adulthood is thinking Bobby is the main hero of the story and was right about literally everything

this april fools is funny on paper
but this just awful to play
I played one match and that's about all the entertainment I can squeeze out of this

>brazilian has 100ms ping that never swings more than 5ms
>the lag hides his animations
nigger

Highlander Rework 2.0

offensive lights
>side offensive lights are now 600ms, undodgeable, and only incur a heavy parry punish
>sweeping horizontal attacks where highlander swings the sword out while holding it with one hand, like he does with parts of his regular zone
>side "lights" deal like 14 damage or something
>top light remains 400ms

offensive kick
>kick is no longer feintable
>kick is now 533ms
>no longer gurantees a heavv, instead only guaranteeing up to a side "light"
>still wallsplats which still grants a heavy

neutral bash
>433 ms bash with the same startup animation as celtic curse, but it it quickly ends with an upwards bash from the knee
>grants no damage, but fast flows to offensive stance with frame advantage
>feeds a lot of revenge to discourage highlanders from using it as a cheap interupt ganking tool

offensive stance forward dodge light attack
>500ms
>tracks well and covers a good distance, meant to catch opponents who try to roll away

neutral heavies
>have hyperarmor start at 500ms

celtic curse
>standardize boths sides to 600ms
>maybe lower the damage

finisher heavies
>slow them down to 800ms or 900ms (theyre currently 600ms)
>give them more forward movement because right now they basically make you stationary and people can just ignore you if they have another target to external dodge around

sprint attack
>replace the current sprint attack with an animation similar to a regular top celtic curse, with highlander lunging forward and bringing his sword down in a big chop

they buffed Sohei, but now he's just a regular character with regular damage, except he'll just win the fight when you get to half health
this is OP as hell

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How do I stop sucking mad ass at this game?
I actually think its a lot of fun, but I always feel like I'm fighting the controls to do what I want to do, while I watch people around me channel Bruce Lee and flow like water between lights, Heavy Feints, guard breaks, and any special moves they may have.
I just came back to the game after a long time, and I'm still having fun, but I'd like to be less dead weight, or even be able to consistently hold my own in 1v1s that aren't against players that aren't new.
Especially in dominion. Its the mode my friend group plays the most but I'll be dammed if I can even hope to survive multiple people at once for more than 3 seconds on anyone that isn't Hitokiri or Warden.

>>2336499
Focus on defense until you get a sense of when and who to attack. Do some 1v1s to learn the combat

>>2336499
pick a character and lab. actually learn their entire kit in the training room. DO DUELS (people skip this step and unironically expect to improve in just Dominion by going 0-14 for hours). watch yt videos of people who are good. continue this rotation until it "clicks" and you stop being a net detriment to your team.

also to get truly gud you will have to eventually learn the entire roster (like actually play them for a decent amount of time, not just read their tooltips or play against them) since a lot of the game is matchup knowledge, which is a little gay for newfags or long time returners because of how bloated the roster has become

>>2337076
>>2337516
Where can I read the tutorial on why guard breaks don't work most of the time? As in why is it when i press guard break, I do the animation and nothing happens they just smack me in the face and their character does not react.

>>2337597
Some characters have t-rex arms so you have to be mindful of range when attempting a gb, especially after blocking a hit from a character with long range like Kensei or Valk. Certain attacks have extremely low vunerability too like unfeintable forward dodge heavies so be mindful of that too.

>>2337597
light attacks beat gb. you aren't gonna land a gb without predicting when they're going to use a heavy attack or empty dodge or fullblock

>>2337597
there are three states someone can be in with regards to GBs
>neutral, where they can counter-GB
>GB-vulnerabe, usually during the start of a move or immediatly after certain moves where you cannot counter GB
>GB invulnerable, during the latter parts or maybe even all of certain moves durations during which you will ignore all attempts to GB you
generally speaking a GB is "beaten" by bashes, light attacks, and zones
neutral heavy attacks all have larger amounts of GB vulnerability frames because GBs are supposed to beat parry attempts

I am still leaving every match where I see a Juren on the enemy team
and every time I dont, I regret it

>>2341376
I tried not leaving again
the enemy juren went 17 and 2

>>2342426
>>2341376
>Just had a game with 3 enemy Jurens
I understand.
They were literally at our spawn just killing us.
I just alt tabbed lol

All chat should absolutely not be "opt in" for this game.

>>2344400
it more often than not, that if I do actually play a match with an enemy Juren, they will end the match with 15 to 20 elims and only 1 to 3 deaths
he's still a demigod
>best neutral pressure in the game
>best chains in the game
>if you let him get out of neutral you suddenly have to make a read with like 15 different possiblities
just awful to play against
a player has to be especially stupid and predictable for me to be able to fuck them up when theyre playing Juren

something that does help is frequently feinting to GB
Juren's know their UB dodge attack is overpowered as shit, so they like to overuse it
though this is completely useless if youre being ganked by a Juren since GBs are useless outside of 1v1s or when you GB a gank victim

>Juren's UB dodge attack has a hitbox that hits behind him so it can external anyone standing near him
genuinely what was ubisoft thinking? you dont do this by accident

it needs to be a universal change that if a neutral move is going to have hyperarmor then the hyperarmor must start at 500ms

>>2305446
kek

remember when Ubisoft fixed ganking by adding damage resistance?
and then """competitive""" niggers complained that their ganks were ruined
and then Ubisoft made it so that damage resistance also reduces the amount of revenge received by the same amount, undoing all the benefit of the first change

>shugoki got an asscreed yasuke nigger skin instead of getting a fat red oni skin
it's over...

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