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>Season 11: Season of Divine Intervention
https://news.blizzard.com/en-us/article/24244465/vanquish-the-lesser-evils-in-season-of-divine-intervention

>2.6.0 PTR patch notes:
https://news.blizzard.com/en-us/article/24247516/the-2-6-0-ptr-what-you-need-to-know

>Patch Notes:
https://news.blizzard.com/en-us/article/24244466/diablo-iv-patch-notes

>Resources for builds:
https://mobalytics.gg/diablo-4
https://maxroll.gg/d4
https://d4builds.gg
https://diablo4.gg/

>Miscellaneous (event countdown, leaderboards etc.):
https://helltides.com/

>Trade:
https://diablo.trade/

>Codex:
https://diablo4.cc/

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Didn't know NPCs can use the waypoints
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Between launch Slutborn and launch Paladin, how broken do you think Warlock is going to be on release?
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I'm gonna miss this nigga like you can't believe.
I hope he'll be kept around somewhere as a "hidden"/easter egg npc

>>2243512
kek
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sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeesh
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>>2243519
idgi, does the demon have all these abilities or do they get imprinted on the player as well?
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>>2243522
all the abilities the pet has and if it has an aura the aura effects the players party/other pets
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I tried my best to like PoE 2 after everyone told me how much better this game is than diablo 4. But I bounced off hard. Can i still clear the season pass if I start a fresh character now? I played Diablo 4 like 2 years ago and already finished the main campaign and played a few characters to level 50 back in the day.
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>>2243852
D4 season passes are seasonal, if you did a season pass in say season 1 for example its gone forever once season 2 comes out and no you do not get any extra credit or refunds, ect
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>>2243852
Yea I know how jewy blizzard is. I am just asking how long it would take to clear the season pass that is going right now.
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>>2243852
>>2243862
You should be able to clear it I imagine. I suggest doing infernal hordes since they still, for some reason, yield the best results when grinding battle pass XP (unless I'm missing another method).
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no summons
2h sword darkness necro
KINO
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baal is so zesty and gross what a kino character
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>oldfag with much nostalgia for d2
>was looking at d2 resurrected with envy for years but won't bother with it as am I a linux gamer (kek)
>see the steam launch with a new character that look like ass but anyway

Is it really worth 40 bucks? Please convince me that it is just nostalgia speaking. On the other way, it's fucking d2 how wrong could I go?
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>>2244687
are you poor dude?
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>>2244687
idk about nostalgia since diablo 2 came out before I was born so I have only play D2R but the dlc adds a bunch of neat stuff so I say is worth it, D2R based version cost 40$ so you get the dlc basically for free.
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>>2244695
I said am a linux gamer, isn't it obvious?
Seriously not poor.. I just hate spending money on games I stop playing after 2 hours in.
>>2244698
Yeah that's what I was wondering, for a newcomer it's basically a "free dlc".
I played it when it came out, and stopped playing after the 1.10 release a long time ago. I have much to discover I guess.
I was also wondering if the player base was big enough on resurrected?
thanks anons
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>muh linux
okay i'm leaning yes, it's one of the goats for autists
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>>2243516
I actually liked having based Hadriel as an angelic NPC. Shame if he leaves for high heavens, we could use more light attuned characters and since Tyrone is off to bumfuck wherever he's the only one heavily connected to the good guys.
>spoiler
I hope so too bro.
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>no chinese lunar new year sale for d2r
why
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>>2244930
angels are not the good guys
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>>2245524
>angels are not the good guys
Really? Let's take a look at those "not the good" guys. The only ones that are actually bad guys are.
>Malthael
He outright believed that humanity shouldn't exist (See D3 RoS plot).
>Inarius
Who was a broken retard on a power trip thinking Sanctuary is his. Before the Sin War you could somewhat say he had a degree of care for humans but after Edyrem he dropped all the pretense and by the events of D4 mortals were just as useful to him as they were disposal.
And then you have
>Tyrone (pre and post de-angelization), Auriel, Itherael, Hadriel
They are actively on the good side of humanity and believe in them.
>Imperius
Yeah, he's a dick throughout our interactions with him in D3, Looks down on humans because of his pride, but even then he sends some of the angelic host to the battlefield of eternity to help us in Act V. Though, admittedly, the camp NPC - Mystic says Imperius' hatred for humanity could grow after Malthael is killed by a mortal so one could argue he is capable of taking the fight to us.

Not to mention angelic host at large that so far we have never had to fight nor did they show any particular animosity towards the player. Unlike demons and Lesser/Prime Evils. When it comes to demons you could make an argument that in Dark Road book the demon Kabraxis built a false church of light in Westmarch was performing all kinds of miracles thorugh his proxy chief-priest Vizjerei Cholik but I doubt you want to draw at straws that much.

So, all in all, yeah you can say (for now) angels are at the very least good guys and definitely not the bad guys. Thanks for reading my blog.
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>>2245753
are you retarded by chance?
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>>2245753
That's huge lore nvke. Based Anon bringing some receipts.
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I really enjoyed season 11 bros. Maxed out the battle pass, did the seasonal journey and it took me a tad longer than the last few seasons (with the same effort), so it's something. And Paladin is an amazing class albeit a memberberry one, but he actually fits the theme of fighting infernal forces. Sure Castle node scales the damage skyhigh but that is nowhere near slutborn's levels of broken mess at its release. But to the point, very weird to say it but I'm left very satisfied this time around.
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When is D4 coming to Switch 2 so I can play in bed?
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>>2245524
>t. lesser evil
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>one of diablo 2 resurrecteds selling points was you could go from classic graphics to remaster graphics at the push of a key
>new 25$ content pack comes out
>the option to use old graphics is removed from the game
>nowhere is this stated
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>>2246019
good.
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I got bored of d3 before the end of the first play through. Maybe I didn't give it enough of a chance?

Does any content in d4 actually demand more than just spamming? I like hoard clearing just fine but I also want a game with risk. Kick my ass so I can learn to kick ass.
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>>2246535
make it to endgame and play hardcore retard
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>>2246570
and it's not easy as shit?
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>>2246573
It's still easy as shit.
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>>2246019
Meh, who cares. You don't buy a remaster to play a game with old graphics anyway. Personally, I'd only toggle old graphics sparingly to check the differences in some locations.
An it's not like you can't do it in base D2R, that's still an option.
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>>2246624
>Meh, who cares
I mean, clearly he does.
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>>2246632
we don't say i mean here
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>>2246019
Toggling old graphics is optional in the classic d2r.
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>>2246634
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>>2245866
>I really enjoyed season 11
Yeah it is solid. My guess is shadow dropping Pally helped immensely but even on its own this season has a lot going for it and it had me doing different activities to farm shit. I hope that those war plans are going to let us play in a similar way.
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>>2246637
boilin
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>>2246646
boilin
mashin
stickin in a stew
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>>2246634
I mean, you're a fag
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>>2246704
bubblin
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>>2246573
OFC it's easy. It's always been easy. If you want a hard play V Rising or something
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>>2246535
I could only finish D3 while playing with a friend and dicking around, its impossible alone, its so boring unless you have a specific form of autism.
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Might not be the right place to ask but I entered my boomer phase and purchased D2R. I am playing the very basic way. Login>enter world. I guess I am still online player, right? What happens if I want to play ladder? Do I need to create a new character? And is there even a reason to do so?
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>>2248487
>What happens if I want to play ladder? Do I need to create a new character?
Yes.
>And is there even a reason to do so?
If you're brand new, not really. The reason these resets happen in these types of games is so everyone can restart at the same time and race to the top. As a new player, that wouldn't mean much to you.
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>>2248488
I guess I can still play with a lot of people even if I am "normal", right? I used to play d2 almost 20 years ago and the real version had multiplayer and single player modes.

I am only thinking about it because there are several new Runewords that need ladder, I think. But I already found Warlock items and they are supposed to be ladder as well so I am uncertain. Also I guess a ladder character won't be able to use items I have found with my warlock, it is a completely different realm so to speak.
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>>2248492
If you want to play with randos, ladder is probably the way to go I guess, since most folks play that mode.
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>>2248500
Trading probably exist in both modes, right?
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>>2248514
yes trading exist in both modes, and when you create a character it ask you if you want to make him ladder or not.
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>>2248619
I wonder if it is worth it, I can probably enjoy the multiplayer life the way it is.
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>>2248363
Is D4 better?
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>>2248761
than d3? yes!
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>White
>Not fat
>Can spec ranged or melee

What are the choices? Rogue?
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>>2249043
as someone who only recently got into ARPGs. What is so bad about D3?
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>>2249208
it's fun. it's kind of like an arcade arpg with not much content
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>>2249208
D3 shit the bed in so many ways it almost became fun to hate. The visuals and writing felt overly derivative and modern. D2 fans said it was too easy, shallow, boring. People were PISSED due to that auction house thing.
At this point it seems to serve no purpose. Anything you want out of an ARPG you can get better from somewhere else.
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I still like playing Diablo III sometimes
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>>2249302
And how is D4 if I enjoy D2?
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>>2249913
Depends on what you like most about d2.
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>>2249948
My friends in here say 4 is a lot like 3 and modern wow. So I guess it is way too easy and gear is given to you on a silver platter.
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>>2249956
If you like the slower and more atmospheric nature of D2 you might end up hating D4
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When is the d2r ladder in EU? Today, tonight, tomorrow?
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>>2250218
It's in their news post Anon. They typically announce it there.
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I'm liking D4 so far but 2 things rather burn my ass about it:
1. Unlocking difficulties is gay, this would've been way more fun banging my head against the wall on Expert from level 1.
2. I still miss Ruthless mode from poe1. I now get why D4 isn't made for it in mind at all, but I still want it.
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>expert
kek
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>>2250218
>>2250222
Can I still get anni if I continue playing on non ladder softcore?
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>>2250238
Yeah I'm incredibly bad but Hard was still to fucking soft.
This is Blizzard and I am a shitter, history shows that they should cater to me.
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Verdict on D4 Paladin?
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I am so fucking confused. I am playing my paladin and recently i started having a lot more movement speed for some reason. I dont know where it is coming from.
I just unequipped all my gera to check. have 30% movement speed from somewhere but i cannot make sense of where it is coming from. I cheked my paragorn board. I checked my skills. I dont know what i am missing. Where is a flat 30% of movement speed coming from.
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How soon after LOH release before it gets a discount? I bought the base game on discount to try it out and ended up liking the endgame much more than expected. Unfortunately, the bundle, which I can't buy anymore, is cheaper than buying the expansion separately
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>>2252595
i'm going to guess that it's pic rel
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Crazy how 3 > 4.
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>>2252685
DLCs rarely get discount, the main game + DLC get discounted all the time tho.
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>>2253919
fuck
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>>2246535
>Does any content in d4 actually demand more than just spamming?
This entire genre is "Spamming: The Game"
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>>2254106
this doesn't mean that they don't, its just rare, I have only seen VoH discounted like twice since it came out a year ago.
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>>2252685
>>2254106
just look through isthereanydeal for historical trends:
>https://isthereanydeal.com/game/diablo-iv-vessel-of-hatred/history/
looks like it was out for a ~month prior to it getting discounted by $10 (for blackfriday deals it seems). I'm skeptical of the same scenario playing out for LoH, but who knows.
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I haven't played since the base game, and just boughted the new expac. Are the jaguar nigga and paladin fun?
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>>2254346
hell yea. paladin is op right now. expect the warlock to be the same when it drops. spiritborn broke the game when it came out, but is still good now.
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How long is the d2 ladder?
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>>2254155
Hey, how ya doin'?
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They still haven't fixed those placeholder thingy? I swear they were already here on release
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>>2254953
it will be fix on LoD, trust.
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is there any point to finish this? No more hidden titles?
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>>2246535
lmao, no. Most builds devolve into mashing multiple buttons in a row. It's actually kind of annoying that blizzard seems to hate one button builds.
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>>2256035
no and no.
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>>2256038
thats a shame. There should be something for the super grinding autists.
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>>2256049
idk why they remove the hidden title, its literally so easy to implement, just some words.
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>>2256052
It was something. Same with the free casual armor and emotes in the battle pass that they decided to stop making. Lazy fucks.
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Why are people praising sanctifying? This shit is ass. You click a button for some random crap. I have sanctified 10 unique pants and not a single one added an extra aspect. Why would anyone waste their time with this. Yeah, let me spend another day farming more unique that will likely brick.
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>>2256081
>let me spend another day farming
you answered your own question
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>>2256081

What kills the motivation for me is that there is nothing in the game that requires that level of min-maxing. The level of grind for perfect sanctification on every slot doesn't pay off whatsoever. I understand why they only want to keep it a seasonal mechanic.
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Is there something similar to D3's demon hunter multishot? if not, any fun build to speedrun the pit/helltides?
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I don't understand why it this game can't be hyped. I think it's blizzard's fault, they don't know how to hype diablo4... Look at WoW, their teams are hype experts, they flood every sloppa media (twitter and co) with engagement baits, protect and gift their streamers, do tons of interviews with tons of websites (US, EU, Asia), they do (kino cringe) inspirational video (we must protect Azeroth and defend the Sunwell, you the player are the most important character on Azeroth thank you so much)
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>>2256940
blizz has spent a LOT of money to advertise d4
but at the end of the day, the d4 story is crap, and nobody can get hyped about a one-armed retard muleing a soulstone for a bloody dog
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>>2256965
There isn't much to get hyped about. None of the characters have any personality. The demons have some semblance of something interesting but they all boil down to wanting to see people suffer. I am glad they added voice lines this season but all they say is they love pain, they love anger, they love to torment. Other than that, I personally don't care about any of the characters in the game. I can barely remember their names.
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>>2256940
There are many reasons for it. For one they thought they could replace core audience for the series with a "modern" one, see how the marketing for base D4 and later VoH went. It's a bit different now I suppose but still. There are a few more off the top of my head:
>wokefying story - putting muh strong women leaders (even the Pally quest has a chick as a "mentor" of sorts), making male characters weak irresponsible or little asian chick holding Mephisto's soulstone like a dildo without repercussions etc.,
I don't need to have a stellar writing but anyone blessed with a modicum of reason will see day and night difference in this weird female-centric writing
>main characters are as memorable as summer rain and if anyone sticks out it's because they're either obnoxious or irritating
For me the exception would be Lorath and Ormus but only by association with D3 and D2 respectively
>due to "towns" being simply hubs with different npcs all of them are forgettable which makes the world we're playing in empty and the stakes are depracated by the fact we feel no attachment to those stock NPCs \
Can you name any of the blacksmiths/alchemists/jewellers in any major town let alone a settlement?
>gameplay slowed down to a crawl and forgetting about all QoL features and functionalities from D3
Which they are backtracking on
>After the hole "sex abuse debacle" and massive layoffs at major blizz studios D4 was given to people who either had a vastly different vision from previous devs or cared little about the project
Again, maybe they are starting to turn some things around by embracing D3 aspects but for instance - it takes them eons to implement new solutions/QoL and it gets mildly exasperating when they hide behind "testing and making sure it has its place in the game". It's supposedly a AAA studio with nigh infinite amount of money when it comes to the flagship project and they need 21 months to introduce damn armory from D3. C'mon...

The list goes on.
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I am about to give up farming this stupid purified claw.
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>>2257270
First off, don't go over 20 of each type of corrupted essence. That's some weird arbitrary cap which hampers your purified drop rates. Best to keep them at ~15. In my case it worked like a charm when farming Duriel. Before that I dropped only one purified essence and that's because I was always above 20 essences.
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They need a button to instantly upgrade to max quality. We don't need to tap this shit 6 times.
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Why do paladins get to one shot everything while rogues have to slowly pick away at bosses.
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>>2254525
I really like this but wish it was a TPP over the shoulder so my castle could look cooler
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is diablo 4 game for faggots? they know what makes d2 click, they know people love poe, why not steal what works and just go from there? It's not that hard..
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>>2257944
you tell me
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>>2257952
I am only asking because my friends say its piss easy to level up, gear up and just eat shit in general and I am not seeing the satisfaction people get out of it
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>>2257974
you can level to 60 in a few hours. then it's your choice of whether you want to do a meta build or not. you do eventually get to a point 40-100 hours in where you crush all content and either stop until the next season OR autistically minmaxx
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>>2257974
Yeah you level up decently quick. But later on it's the same story as with path of gambling or any modern arpgs. You quickly start to blow stuff up, but you don't need to follow specific builds, instead you can make your own and competently clear the content.
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Should I bother grinding for the purified materials? Do you think that mount trophy and this event will only last the season?
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>>2258011
>Should I bother grinding for the purified materials?
Depends. Do you want to have something that'll be somewhat unique and hilarious for "bragging" rights? Which leads me to
>Do you think that mount trophy and this event will only last the season?
It'll still be feasible but more difficult because, I assume, going forward you won't have guaranteed lesser evils spawn every time you complete each activity. So overall it's a neat trophy that proves you put time and effort into grinding for it.
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>>2258011
you can do it bro. what are you missing?
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>>2256037
>"Why do devs actually want to make a game instead of glorified version of cookie clicker?"
Couldn't tell ya anon. Couldn't tell ya.
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>>2257843
>TPP
Why do zoomers hate isometric so much?
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>>2258023
>>2258033
I needed the purified claw of Andariel. I finally got it from a minor undercity run #100. I just started skipping everything and running to the end. I don't mind grindy things if they weren't so mind numbing like undercity.
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>>2258325
Play rain of arrows and come back to me if your keyboard and mouse still work. Some builds require you to mash the buttons as fast as you can. It would be smarter to have some kind of auto casting settings. I switched back to dance of knives because it was easier on the fingers.
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>>2258327
I'm a chadlennial thougheverbeit
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>>2258552
Good work bro. Grats.
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>got my brother to buy d2 with the new dlc so we can play it together
>he says its boring and is only playing it because of me
its so over...
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>>2259567
only boomers like diablo 2. Its a pretty dated game.
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>>2259573
both me and him are zoomers, I think is just that the start of d2 is boring as fuck, it took me 3 tries to get past act 1 and then the game starts getting good on act 2.
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So we might get Baal after Mephisto? After beating the original D4 campaign again I got pic related. It kinda hints at the order in which we could encounter the Primes after beating Meph.

>Terror Begets Hate and Hate begets Destruction, Destruction Begets Terror...
>Mephisto ( Hatred ) -> Baal (Destruction) -> Diablo (Terror)
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Spiritborn or Druid?
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>>2259681
spiritborn desu.
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anyone here bounced off of PoE 2? If yes what was the reason?
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>>2259567
You don't deserve your brother.
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>>2260058
Kek
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>>2260058
I actually prefer it to 1
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>>2260058
honestly I'm waiting for the full release to try it, I refuse to pay for early access.
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got my warlock in nightmare. idk how far i'll make it. d2 grind is 2 real 4 me in hell.
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>>2261260
every time I play D2 I stop in hell, I can't farm baal 20 million times in a row, idk how boomers did it back in the day.
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>>2261390
easy: boomers didn't do that back in the day. they played the game for the story and then moved on.
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how often does rise of necromancer go on sale for d3
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>>2259746
Spiritborn definitely feels better. Plus, it has fire which druid doesn't have.
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>>2260058
Yeah, it maybe could've been good, but early game has you interacting with the complex combat. You have to dodge, crowd control is powerful and there's room for special interactions between skills because you don't have the damage to blow mobs up instantly. Slowly as you progress you get more powerful assuming you're building correctly and eventually you're blowing up screens with mobs having little chance of fighting back.
As a loser that no-lifed D2/PoE1/D3/D2R/D4 I can say for an absolute fact that Path of Gambling is a side-grade at best, and a D2 Custom server at worst.
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>>2262785
what were your favourite ARPGs then?
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>>2262785
>Path of Gambling is a side-grade at best, and a D2 Custom server at worst.
one of better comparisons i've seen about poo1
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>>2260391
well he might not even play it much longer, we just got to act 2 and he says that the game is too easy and he may drop it.
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>>2260058
Waiting for 0.5 to drop and need something brainless to play without having to learn my combos in POE2 again
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>>2262814
>what were your favourite ARPGs then?
D2 and by extension D2R are the ones that I liked. They don't go over the top with their features and there's high replayability value to both of them without wearing you down. Also I don't much care about Warlock being broken in D2R, It's just so happens that this class reaches annihilation threshold sooner than others. Besides ARPGs are all about blowing stuff up either way, it's how you get there that matters and how the game treats both you and your time.
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guys, I have done it. I finally have enough runes for an Enigma. I have a 3socket Archon Plate already, but it only has 481 Defense. Should I try to buy a plate with 500+ defense for an Ist or so? The only issue is waiting out someone willing to supply one for that price. Otherwise, looking at the sales on traderie, anything Superior or 524+ Defense is at least 1 Jah and that's getting a bet expensive, though possibly reasonable.
Am I min-maxing too hard with this item?
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>>2266613
>Am I min-maxing too hard with this item?
yes, unless you are on hardcore the 481 one is fine.
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i'm going to come back for the next season of d4 but bros... it's feeling more like a chore than anything else
i'm so tired
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>>2267815
d2 is in a good position, i'd wait until xpac. on April

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