Retanaru video about a horsies mod
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nPwr3REqr5g
still waiting on the patch notes vid

reminder B42 debuted over a year ago and B43 is scheduled sometime after the singularity and the colonization of Mars.

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>be far future
>the entire universe finally collapsed
>survivor pod starts beeping
>PZ patch note
>"B43 unstable is out!"
>finally the NPCs we've all been waiting for are here!
>open PZ
>there's one NPC in the entire game and he just stands there doing nothing
>the game is completely broken and unplayable
>everything else got nerfed
>as I start to think this is terrible, receive a message from a different universe
>it's Lemmy
>"IT'S UNSTABLE!"

>>2247360
AGI will finish the game for them. i'm not joking, at this rate it will absolutely happen. the only question is will they be honest about it?

>>2247387
>AGI will finish the game for them
I think you meant it'll produce the bicentennial news post for them explaining how they (it) spent the last 40 years adding grass growth mechanic (it's not in the game, it's just an hallucination)

>>2247387
of course not. They used AI art in game, they used AI music for a trailer, they will absolutely use AI coding and never mention it.
Then lemmy will have enough to to dedicate to his passion of posting online about being a game dev

>>2247387
i do really hope lemmy and his band of fags burn out entirely and sell off the ip to a competent studio

>>2247387
you keep repeating this after getting btfo in the prior thread

>>2247290
finally a good OP image for once

>B43
>NPCs are here
>they're just zombie
>but with black skin

>>2247387
Yeah dude totally haha just two more weeks until AI fixes all our problems

>Check previous thread after not keeping up with zomboid for a few months
>"Build 42 will not have advanced crafting"
That's the entire fucking point of build 42. Literally the whole reason it exists. I know these fucks do zero work, but what the absolute fuck.

>>2247995
what is advanced crafting?
we have actual workstations now, i thought that was it. is it going to be a multi-step process? am i gonna have to cast, forge, hammer and sharpen a goddamn sword?
would be cool if PZ's shit wasn't entirely menu driven.

>>2247999
Having more of the tech tree instead of shit ass rock forges for one, probably. Not happening now either way.

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everyone could tell this was a retarded idea right from the start

>>2248011
This is just a basic crafting tree that'd you see in any other game. If you broke a skill down into a tree like this, Runescape would have a similarly intimidating looking tree. I'm still pissed there's gonna be no quality system though.

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>>2248011
that looks horrible, i don't want this. i don't want to make 12 crafting stations when i am one dude squatting in some dead-guy-turned-zombie's garage
>oh let me go over the FLETCHING TABLE after the BOWYER TABLE
no, fuck off.

>>2248011
i always thought the idea of making things completely from scratch in a post-apocalyptic zombie setting where you are the only survivor was retarded. it's a complete waste of a lone survivor's time to make a bow from scratch or smelt raw ore into ingots, for what? that's the kind of stuff you do when you have a large group of 30 people 10 years after the apocalypse and everything has literally been picked clean by other survivor groups to the point where doing that becomes almost a necessity. it's weird how they seemingly design the entire game around the idea that people will be on multiplayer and will be cooperating in groups of 5-10 by default but then again this game can go long stretches of time without even having multiplayer available.

>>2248027
i've tried MP a couple times. this is how it goes
>spawn into a fucking war zone
>zombies everywhere
>zero loot
>get bored / die
>play SP instead
MP is a joke, but i have no real friends or even steam friends that play zomboid.

>>2248060
>>spawn into a fucking war zone
is this why MP players want true innawoods? because i can't imagine going to into a city in MP except to loot it. i understand loot respawning is a thing in MP too.
as an SP chad i like loot not respawning, i world object and world permanence. though tbf sometimes i have a lot more loot than i know what to do with. i have like 6 duffles i need to sort.

>>2248113
>i world object and world permanence.
i like* object etc

>>2248016
It'd be easy to implement too
>Quality determines the maximum condition of a tool/weapon and the rate of degredation

>>2248113
>is this why MP players want true innawoods?
Almost no one wants that.

>>2248156
Retanaru seems to want it

>>2248113
>is this why MP players want true innawoods?
What the fuck? No, nobody wants that.
The entire game's premise breaks down once you go innawoods, it just becomes a generic crafting game once you do that.

>>2248011
>we want the CDDA/Vintage Story audience
>no we dont even have basic wiring/circuitry and only way to get power is via loud shitty generators that need to be outside exposed to the elements outside
>no you cant make your own fuel
>but you NEED to have these specific items with single use crafted from these workbenches that you will use only for crafting that item
>oh and you actually need to find an item as rare as a sledgehammer that you cant craft yourself if you want to do leatherworking
>oh and bunch of other essentials are unobtainium too because there are only 3 spawns for an item you need in the entire map and you got unlucky
>but dont worry we will fix all of this.....eventually

>>2248421
>You need wire to make advanced metalsmithing
>You cannot make wire
>This has been the case for 14 fucking months BTW

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>>2248421
>can't make leather clothes without advanced metalworking

>>2248421
The game is completely fucking retarded when it comes to tailoring.
One of the largest issues with tailoring IRL is having enough material to actually work with. Once you solve that issue you can sew together all sorts of shit.
You only need to experiment, use templates, etc to figure out how to make a shirt or whatever.
If you have access to a shitload of leather long-coats as you do ingame you could tailor just about anything you want.
Instead you can only turn them into 'leather strips' which are almost worthless.
Why the fuck can't I just double-up some leather coat material, and make bite-proof armguards with them???

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>>2248466
this is a story about how you died wearing fucking taped together magazines, retard.

>>2248466
because this is a video game and that would be broken

>>2248473
Sorry sweaty, official developer stance is that this is a realistic game for realistic men.
Oh lol except that everything 'realistic' ingame hurts the player, and everything that would help the player realistically is suspiciously left out...
Not spiteful mutants though, trust me, not at all! Tee hee.
>>2248471
>80% bite defence
Have these niggers actually tried biting clean through an entire magazine before?
Setting aside the point that human jaws suck at biting large flat objects like torsos, human jaws generally suck at biting through much of anything. It's why we cook food.

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>>2248466
>cdda lets you make armor from a wide range of materials
>can even line those armors with wool to make them warmer
>can reinforce them piecemeal

>pz you tape the fucking magazines together because you are a dumb fuck

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>>2248475
mind you you're not even laminating the magazine papers properly, even though there is glue in the game and laminated paper armor if a real thing, no you just grab a dozen issues of Crate & Barrel and tape it together like a filthy hobo.

oh yeah and this brilliant, revolutionary idea of TAPING SHIT TOGETHER won't occur to you unless you're almost fucking maxed out in tailoring, hopefully you read about hobo armor in a book first.

>>2248476
>Dwarf Fortress has actual material values for weapons and armor calculated
>Armor layering actually matters as is the difference between hard plates (good against blunt impacts) and soft armor (less good against blunt impacts)
>Slapping on a bunch of wool/silk/cloth cloaks actually makes biting through any part of the body really hard unless it's something like a lion or huge troll or some shit
>In zomboid you can repair a shirt but only if you're a literal semi-master at tailoring
>>2248477
>Duct taping paper is only possible if you're literally nearly an absolute master of tailoring
What the absolute fuck is this bullshit?
Hell, wouldn't just wrapping duct tape around your arms make them pretty fucking impossible to bite through anyways? The stuff is pretty strong.

>>2248477
It's like they looked at Abiotic Factor and went 'yeah, that's realistic'.
Even though the scientists there used frying pans and filing cabinets for the bulk of the armor and magazines as connective components or limb covering.

>>2248475
a good leather jacket or duster would make you almost invincible to zombie bites and scratches. ever try tearing a denim jean leg? same shit.
though it is KY so it gets hot as fuck and probably humid as well... but in the winter you're golden.

i think my game is bugged
i just operated a microwave without reading the manual for it

>>2248498
what the fuck you need to be a master electrician to do that shit

>>2248498
>Fire got a rework in B42 so they don't comically consume buildings like they used to
>Whoops lol except when microwaves/ovens explode it makes a constantly expanding ring of fire that military-grade napalm strikes would be envious of
>This will literally consume a considerable fraction of a town and burns right through concrete, asphalt and steel

>Lol whoops sorry players but in our new patch fires can be invisible but still burn you! Haha!
>Why didn't you fix that before release, or hot fix it the day after? How do you even make fire-sprites not load in while fires are burning?
>S-SHUT UP! THE BUG WILL REMAIN UNTIL PLAYER LIFESPANS ARE SUFFICIENTLY LOW

>>2248466
Because then you wouldn't waste time setting up a tanning station and that would hurt Lemmy's feelings :(

>>2248679
But that's what makes the crafting system so fucking stupid.
A clever game goes 'hey you can either find the shit to use as ingredients, or make the shit'. Convenience vs risk.
Tanning hides? No risk, can't get hurt/bitten that way.
Grabbing jackets? Gotta risk killing zombies.
A fair trade.
Lemmy is like some WEF nigger who tries forcing behaviors like a weirdo.

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>>2248679
I wasted time setting up a tanning station in multiplayer only to learn a bug in multiplayer prevents me from completing the tanning process and another bug prevents me from making myself or anyone else an admin so we just can't make leather.

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>>2248475
The average joe in the 90s was capable of chewing through 7 inches of steel with ease.

>>2248724
Yeah I remember my father biting right through pieces of steel rebar on the construction site. Every dude was doing it.

>>2248707
There is a mod to fix it too.

>>2248466
I haven't tried tailoring since B41 but I remember getting materials was easy back then I would just break down all the zombie clothes, keep a stock pile also and just patch them up when I had downtime at my main base.

>>2248471
the discomfort modifier is so fucking stupid, wearing protective items the right way makes you feel more comfortable because your safer.

I would feel far more uncomfortable if I was exposed while surrounded by rotting corpses who literally want to bite me

>>2248855
>I would just break down all the zombie clothes
Have they fixed the rightclick Rip All Clothes option yet?

>>2248867
The one that makes the game lag? I remember I had to get a mod to fix that

>>2248870
I remember it lagging if the server had clothing mods because the context menu would show every single recipe, there was of course a very easy mod fix that simply stopped the context menu from showing the recipes.

>>2248881
yeah I believe its that

It's funny how farming is so irrelevant now. I see no point in trying to farm in the your first year. it's effectively an activity that has been pushed about 6 months after game start. Getting to 6 months is a fucking miracle, I have never made it more than 2 before getting permanently bored.

They should really just have the game start sometime in spring, like most games with seasonal farming. As it is I'll just stockpile seeds in the hope that maybe, possibly, I'll actually invest the couple hundred hours in a game before I can use a core game mechanic.

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>release a new roadmap
>2 years later
>still haven't moved from the first step
yep, it's going well

>>2248959
>New updates are supposed to be released quicker
>They're actually slower

>>2248959
1-2 years between builds, we can expect the game to be finished in *checks notes* 2038. The best forecasters predict ASI by 2036.
It will take TIS longer to finish their zombie fighting and scavenging game than it has taken AI to go from gobblygook to being better than the best human in all domains by an order of magnitude.

>>2248992
The UK is gonna stop existing as a nation before Zomboid is finished

>>2249012
It will be a caliphate, before being bombed by President MrBeast.

>>2248992
>The best forecasters predict ASI by 2036.
I think they're retards. ASI might not even be possible

>>2249023
I think the best forecasters are more reliable than some aggrieved person in the perpetually buttblasted PZ thread.

>>2249037
Do these "best forecasters" have a proven track record of accurately predicting the future?
If not, then they're just making educated guesses and are probably wrong like everyone else.

>>2249054
>Do these "best forecasters" have a proven track record of accurately predicting the future?
Excellent question. Yes, at least one of them does.
https://www.astralcodexten.com/p/introducing-ai-2027
This was published last year, and they've pushed their forecast back since then. As always forecasting is imprecise, but this guy Daniel Kokotajlo got a lot of things right.
His original blog post, from 2021: https://www.alignmentforum.org/posts/6Xgy6CAf2jqHhynHL/what-2026-looks-like
You can read it yourself and see how accurate he was.

>>2249062
That's genuinely interesting, anon. This is a rabbit hole. I keep seeing the words "effective altruism". These people all seem to talk in a certain way

>>2249255
that blog's author Scott Alexander is a liberal who leans right. he's not a hardcore progressive, and he's intelligent. i find the subjects he talks about interesting, and he does research his topics before posting something.
he ran another blog that was highly successful before the NYT threatened to dox him, now he's more or less open about who he is and what he does.

>>2249275
I wasn't casting aspersions on whatever I might imagine his politics to be (I didn't really think about it); it's just that this post and its comments reminded me heavily of the"singularity" community in the 2010s, and this seems to be the spiritual continuation of that subculture.

>>2249292
i'm unaware of that community. they've been predicting the singularity since the scientific calculator, it seems. with LLMs writing code, we might actually be on the brink of one.
i just wanted to clarify who he is. afaik he considers himself a Rationalist, and I know he's associated with Less Wrong. and he has a serious interest in AI, which he recognizes as a transformative technology.

>>2248856
>wearing protective items the right way makes you feel more comfortable because your safer
no not all the time, snake boots are pretty fuckin uncomfortable after walking in them for an hour and a half but you do feel safe knowing if you randomly step on top of a snake they can't do shit to you, but they are definitely not comfortable.

>>2249469
I wouldn't mind for example wearing football shoulder pads that block corpses from biting my neck than if I didn't have any on

>>2249469
nta, but while it's true you wouldn't don a full suit of armor for extended periods of time, there's plenty of alternative solutions to making armor that need to be worn all day long.
The fact a full metal set of armor is the ultimate thing you can do with blacksmithing is kinda silly since it leads to your character just going
>this armor sucks ass
Higher level of blacksmithing, tailoring and the likes should focus on trying to make armor that'd be more comfortable to wear while still offering various kind of protection, like padded jackets, metal caps, vambraces, etc...
That is, if zombies weren't capable of somehow tearing through metal with their teeth.

>>2249536
Except you can't wear a backpack with a shoulder pad

>>2249538
if we could make boiled leather armor that would be aces. metal is overkill when you're fighting what are basically animals.
and yeah a suit of armor, even a cuirass, is fucking awful to wear. you wear it because it can stop you from getting punched full of holes by sharp metal things.
discomfort > exsanguinating

>>2249546
The game for some reason completely ignores aluminum sheeting.
Even 1mm of aluminum is biteproof and it barely weighs anything and can be pretty easily formed by simple tools.

>>2249547
was aluminum commonly available in 1993? could you go into a hardware store and buy it?

>>2249576
>was aluminum commonly available in 1993?
Anon, Aluminum has been commonly available since the fucking 50's.
Put a layer of denim under a cut-apart SODA CAN and you can't bite through it, it just does not happen.

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>>2249590
i wonder if this would work

>>2249596
You wouldn't even need any serious tools to make 'soda can' armor. Tin snips, or even just beefy scissors should work. Duct tape. A hammer or even just a rock.

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>>2249598
convince me to waste my time on this shit instead of playing the game.
btw this is free chatGPT so literally anyone can do this.

>>2249602
Adding new items to the game is pretty easily, although leg armor is worthless ingame as standing zombies cannot bite anything lower than your torso.

>>2249603
oh. well i'll ask it for an aluminum-plated jacket then. one item, i can't be arsed to make multiple sets.
seriously though. if modding is this easy, why do we complain? this game is fixable.

>>2249606
Because they break mods every second patch for no reason, and it's the developer's job to make the game good.
Oh, also if you make a mod which treads on the toes of a popular modder they can and will permaban you from the workshop.

>>2249608
>if you make a mod which treads on the toes of a popular modder they can and will permaban you from the workshop.
i gotta be honest, that sounds like horseshit. who are we talking about and when did this happen?

>>2249609
>who are we talking about and when did this happen?
Me, and years ago.

>>2249610
that sucks man, but seriously, can't you appeal that? there must be more to it.
i fucking hate dick clout modders though. imo some of them are real faggots.

>>2249620
>can't you appeal that?
No, lol. Steam community bans are handled by the developers, steam staff can't do a thing about fraudulent bans.
To be clear you can be banned for ANY reason by gamedevs, with no appeal being allowed.
So guess what happens when the developers are mentally unstable (and often drunk) leftist retards?
Go to half of the steam discussion threads and you just see (banned) next to every second user's name lol.

>>2249623
thanks for the warning. i don't think i would publish on the workshop. but i would catbox it for anons.
i might make this aluminum plater jacket. no promises, i'm a lazy motherfucker, but i have always wanted to mod and chatGPT literally makes it a copy+paste job.
anyone other recs? ideas? i'll see what i can do about making it fit >>2249598

>>2249628
0 skill requirement (this is fucking retard-tier armor)
Jacket requires maybe 10 empty soda cans, 1 roll of duct tape, 10 denim/leather strips, hammer, scissors/tin snips?

>>2249630
sounds good, i'm copying this shit down.

>>2249636
100% bite/scratch protection but only like 5 durability or something because they just tear the duct tape apart.

>>2249610
What was the mod?

>>2249641
Some retard e-beggar with a patreon/paypal link made a mod which let you repair 'most' clothing items in the game because heaps were missing repair/upgrade tags. But he left out a shitload of items for some reason.
I made a mod which made literally every clothing item repairable/upgradable and it was pretty popular because people liked the added flexibility.
So of course lmao I had to get banned.

>>2249639
i feel like i want to make it more durable, but less useful. 100% protection is just broken.
game logic, not real logic. realism is killing this game.

>>2249646
It's armor and it is literally biteproof materially. If it's not 100% protection that's retarded and you're just rolling RNJesus.
Zomboid's universe in medieval history must've been fucking hilarious, random peasants biting big fuckoff holes in knights.

>>2249645
They were probably a regular on the trannycord and whined about it

>>2249649
They whined about it on the subreddit lmao.

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>>2249648
what about 90%. you cant plate the joints.
100% and it's literally broken, any good player is only going to get one or two accidental bites/scratches and if it breaks after a couple hits you can just make another.
a fully articulated set of metal armor would be 100%

>>2249665
You're still not biting through layers of duct tape and leather.
You don't need fucking hardened steel plate to stop a human's jaws.
They're zombies, not crocodiles.

>>2249666
i don't think 10 soda cans taped to a fucking jacket is gonna make you impervious to attacks. and again, it's more about game logic than absolute realism.
zombies shouldn't be able to break down solid wood constructions either, let alone stone walls, or fucking sheet metal barricades. but there is zero challenge if you can lock yourself in a fortress.

>>2249668
Why the hell wouldn't soda cans make you practically biteproof? Go ahead and bite through them if they're so easy to destroy.
The game has too much RNG as it is, armor that isn't 100%, might as well be 0%.

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>>2249671
i hear you, because one bad bite is all it takes. it's a fault of the games logic.
still, 90% protection is really fucking good. it's not about "would this stop bites" of course it would. it's about gaps in the armor, bad luck, that sort of thing.
100% protection means never getting bit, which means you never die except by drag down or some shit.

>>2249684
Not him, but the thing is that's not a realistic result. Gaps in armor exist yes, but you can cover it with all kinds of materials that are functionally or actually impervious to zombie bites, chainmail stops fucking sharkbites and historically small sheets of it were sewn in under the arms before sliding plates were developed; or the gaps are so small it's actually impossible for a zombie to slip their teeth in there in the first place to actually hurt you. Hell, even a few layers of regular clothing, like a sweater over a long sleeve, would be sufficient protection against being bitten.

All this is fine if you're going for a purely gamey thing, but if realism is your goal at all; any kind of logical armor would make you 100% invincible against zombies that don't drag you down.

>>2249689
>if realism is your goal
It isn't and never was though

>>2249754
Then pick any retarded fucking stats you want if you want to go the Lemmy route. Realism until it'd help the player.

>>2249758
90% defense does help the player. grab a 10 sided dice and see how many times it comes up 1.

>>2249779
>rolls dice
>comes up as a 1
Yeah that's the thing about non-guaranteed chances.
They aren't guaranteed.

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>>2249780
dude you are not getting it at all.
9/10 times you are not going to get bit.
unless you are shit at combat that is huge. i've killed almost a thousand zombies in my game and got bit twice, because i whiffed on a hit.
statistically speaking i probably wouldn't have gotten hit either time with a 90% bite defense.

>>2249781
I'm not wearing armor that makes my character hot, depressed, and limits carry weight if it won't protect me fully.

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>>2249783
lol
you are so weird. alrighty.

>>2249786
Nigger the meta right now is to practically run around in the nude because heat=tiredness=less killing potential.
Lemmy has balanced the game in such a dogshit way that personal protective equipment is objectively MORE likely to kill you.

>>2249789
then go nude and rock out with your cock out

>>2249790
That's what a lot of players basically do.

>>2249791
great
obviously you don't need armor if you are super pro at combat. so why are we even arguing?

>>2249793
Because if Lemmy wasn't retarded, armor would actually be useful ingame instead of being a hinderance because it's incredibly difficult to make armor ingame?
You need level fucking 8 tailoring to duct tape some magazines to your arms for fucks sake.

>>2249796
yeah, that armor choices of offer are kind of retarded. except for the forged armor which is actually tremendous protection.
what you want is perfect protection, no downsides. is that correct? at that point why not just turn off transmission and enjoy the game.

>>2249799
>the forged armor which is actually tremendous protection
At the cost of massive overheating, depression-maxxing, and eating up all your carry weight.
Which are all issues that make it completely worthless.
>what you want is perfect protection, no downsides. is that correct? at that point why not just turn off transmission and enjoy the game.
>What you want is protection that is realistic, as is the design ethos of the game
Yes.

>>2249783
okay, then don't? retard?
what the fuck are you even trying to argue about at this point
actually are you the same retarded faggot who got btfo last night arguing about romero movies you didnt watch lol

>>2249802
did you know football players get injured all the time? strange, they're wearing all that armor.
did you know knights got killed all the time? strange, they're wearing all that armor.
perfection protection is a fantasy. the fact that no armor except maybe a fucking iron man suit is perfect is reflected in those stat choices.

>>2249789
That's not true though - I mean yeah, there's a downside to wearing armor, but the upside is that you're most likely not going to get infected if you fuck up and get bit
it's only "more likely to kill you" if you're playing like a total retard.

>>2249805
Look guy, 90% protection isnt enough for me. It has to be 100%.

>>2249808
if a 9/10 bitch wanted to fuck, you would be like "hell no i only fuck dimes"?

>>2249805
Football players are 350 pound roidmonkeys tackling each other.
Zombies are normal sized people who are rotting and unable to walk properly let alone run.
Football players also don't try taking bites out of each other.

>>2249807
thats what i dont get about his argument
normal clothing doesnt really protect you, they bite right through.
if a worn item is blocking hits to body parts 90pc of the time, with skilled play you are very unlikely to get bit.

>>2249802
what if you wear the armor just to clear an area that is overrun
then - get this - you take it off. and you loot. you might still get jumped but one zombie is no problem. its the shitload of them and getting an unlucky bite that fucks you.

>>2249821
>what if you wear the armor just to clear an area that is overrun
That's fair, but it's a pain in the ass as you then have to carry all that shit in a backpack/car, put it all on/take it off, and the overheating issue becomes a problem within a few minutes of wearing/swinging weapons.

>>2249813
Hell yeah brother I know what I'm worth. Lmao I was just making fun of him.
>>2249817
I think he's just running out of things to be mad at Lemmy for, which is crazy because there's so many.

>Literal retards who haven't played the game are defending the armor mechanic which nobody actually uses
You retards would have an argument if a lot of players used ingame armors, they're sincerely so dogshit that nobody does though.

>>2249823
well yeah, i mean. there has to be some sort of trade off. knights traded being fast for 95pc protection rating. they couls still get stabbed in the groin, under the arm, see >>2249665
that is a state of the art renaissance suit, very expensive, very exclusive. still not 100pc.

>>2249830
You could chomp on a knight with 30 dudes all day and you still wouldn't actually kill him BTW

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>>2249831
they would eventually find his tasty, soft taint.

look man im gonna make this armor. and im gonna give it 98pc protection. just for you. because if you are getting hit 50 times you just suck at the game.

>>2249832
I already said you could use whatever dumbass stats you want for it.
It's just that Lemmy is a massive retard and uses 'realism' whenever it suits his needs while being a complete cuck to his own game design methods when someone points out how fucking gamey the systems are.

>>2249833
its a good thing they made the game easy to mod and not some nightmare like bethesda where you need to hack their game apart to change values.

>>2249836
How about the developers have a backbone and finally decide if they want to realism-maxx or just make a balanced game? You can't have both.

ahhhh holy fuck modding with chatgpt is annoying as hell. but i am using the free model. motherfucker is making a ton of mistakes

IM NOT GIVING UP ANON, IM GONNA GET YOU YOUR MAGIC ARMOR

>>2249639
>>2249668
>they just tear the duct tape apart.
>i don't think 10 soda cans taped to a fucking jacket is gonna make you impervious to attacks
duct tape alone would be way more op than people give it credit for in a zombie apocalypse, if you add soda cans to it then it is quite literally biteproof. with enough layers of tape they're not tearing through that shit unless you're dead/unconscious and they get to gnaw at you freely. you can't really balance that without the concept of special variants that do more than just bite you, or like you said just make the durability super low so that it can only be useful for getting you out of a pinch

>>2249887
Another reason why armor sucks dick ingame is that it doesn't prevent stunlocks.
A zombie latched onto your arm due to it being covered in cloth? Yeah that could be a pain in the ass to get away from.
A zombie that just glances off your arms due to metal/hard surface? No stunlock.

>>2249884
jesus fucking christ ChatGPT had me putting things in the wrong folders, didn't acknowledge that the folder structure had changed. for funsies the example mod folder structure is still what it was before b42 so it wasn't until i checked a workshop mod i figured this out.

the free version is absolute ass at vibescoding. it doesn't help TIS isn't keeping their example mods folder up to date. what a fucking joke.
testing the mod now. could have it up very soon.

alright chatgpt is pissing me off. here's what i got bros, for AluminumTorsoArmor. i made me own recipe, can someone check this for errors. chatgpt doesn't know wtf is going on.

module AluminumTorsoArmor
{
item Armor_AluminumTorso
{
Type = Clothing,
DisplayName = Aluminum Torso Armor,
Icon = Jacket_LeatherBlack,

BodyLocation = Jacket,
ClothingItem = Jacket_Normal,

Weight = 3.0,
ConditionMax = 15,
CanHaveHoles = true,

Insulation = 0.4,
WindResistance = 0.6,
WaterResistance = 0.1,

BiteDefense = 60,
ScratchDefense = 80,
BulletDefense = 5,

RunSpeedModifier = 0.96,
CombatSpeedModifier = 0.98,
}

recipe Make Aluminum Torso Armor
{
LeatherJacket,
EmptyTinCan=12,
DuctTape=1,
Hammer keep,
SheetMetalSnips keep,
MetalworkingPliers keep,

Result:AluminumTorsoArmor.Armor_AluminumTorso,
Time:300.0,
}
}

it's throwing an error when i try to look it up in item spawner. ignore the values, we can change those, this is just what ChatGPT gave me, it's obviously fucked something up.

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>>2249919
this is a screenshot of the error exactly as i see it when i open up item list

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birmingham... home...

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I AM GOING INSANE

i've never felt more indian in my life than right now

nigga just look up a modding tutorial

>>2250001
i will tomorrow. ah i am so demoralized. i thought chatGPT was the future...
it's over.

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>they made the armor heavy
its over, god has abandoned birmingham. Now to stumble through the down looking for a bed to sleep in as the armor takes up most of my carry capacity

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well that very quickly went bad. Good thing zombies cant bite through plate armor in this game

>>2250054
>>2250058
Not zomboid, stay on topic retard.

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>>2250063
>plate armor
works
>fences
zombies dont walk around them
>barricading
simple context menu, or just slam a table in front of a door
>bladed weapon sharpness like lemmy wants
in, and whetstones dont break in a week
zomboid sucks simple as.
dont worry, you can go back to pretending to like zomboid right away. i will just post some webms over the next few days. i will even put "gsb" in my filenames so you can filter me, just for you :)

>>2249541
There's a mod to fix that.

thanks for reminding me that game exists. you got into a closed beta? how soon till release?

>>2249952
>ItemType:null
It can't find ItemType.
Go check in the game files how clothing items are written down rather than using ShitGPT to code for you.

>>2251066
im workin on it today bro

>>2250203
>medieval zombies
kino

>>2249954
>>2250054
>>2250058
>>2250189
>>2250203
fuck off asshole, wrong general

>>2251066
The type is defined
>Type = Clothing,
so idk what i'm doing wrong here. i checked another mod
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3507919075&searchtext=halo
this is exactly how they define Type as well.
I guess I'l try copying their entire code block and see if that works.

>>2251211
he's in the right general though

>>2251211
it's literally a clone of PZ

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>>2251216
i copied the relevant code from that Halo Armor mod, changed the name of course, i got the same error
i honestly have no idea how to proceed, the wiki sucks. its probably something really simple too but idk i won't spend hours on this shit.

>>2251211
Where were you when Vein and HumanitZ had small bursts of illegal activity in the zomboid threads?

>>2251219
>>2251220
its not PZ, get out
>clone
gibbering retard

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>>2251227
here is what i made
https://files.catbox.moe/fqdiv7.zip
if anyone wants to take a look.
i am officially done without guidance.

>>2251252
>its
it's*

>>2249919
niggerman, if you didnt do this in notepad++ and space it correctly it wouldnt work even with otherwisecorrect code
this is why you dont ask faggot ai to code for you

>>2251433
i checked it in notepad++ and saw no formatting issues
doesn't spacing just make it more readable? it shouldn't matter either way.

this game was so bad steam gave me a full refund

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Interesting that the opposite end of the spectrum (dev glazers) are beginning to get cranky

>>2252125
>a small team working reasonable hours
Would not take this long

>>2252125
B42 is a complete joke of a build, 14 fucking months into it and most of the issues people raised since day 1 are still there.

>>2252130
If B42 doesn't kill it, B43 will be the death of PZ

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>>2252129
It really is world's shittiest management, haha.
>>2252130
Technically it's not stable yet so they might fix it in 3 years when B42 is finished inshallah.
>>2252134
B42 or B43 might get the indie stone to realize that the gig is up and they should actually finish the game they promised they would finish. But that realization is probably gonna happen when its already too late in about 17 years

>B42 is to introduce advanced crafting and a firearm rework
>Lol whoops firearm rework shitcanned before B42 even releases, we get a cut-down version that still doesn't do ballistic simulation (games in the 90's managed this BTW)
>At least advanced crafting is finally in the ga- Shitcanned until B43 now
What the fuck.

>>2252161
>>Lol whoops firearm rework shitcanned before B42 even releases, we get a cut-down version that still doesn't do ballistic simulation (games in the 90's managed this BTW)
They were planning a firearms rework prior? I just thought it was halfassed balancing.

>>2252169
Firearms were never supposed to be jerryrigged long-range melee weapons. Proper ballistics/raycasts were intended to be firearms.
Except B42 released and they were...Jerryrigged long range melee weapons with RNG...Whoops!
At least now they've been turned into laughably OP skill-based weapons, which fucks up the RPG abstraction layer though.
Now a level 0 aiming character can be a fucking john wick type marksman at any range.

>>2249830
Properly fitted plate armor didn't seriously encumber knights. They could still run and even jump or roll.

>>2252267
yeah i bet they were perfect ballerinas.
armor is encumbering, get real.

>>2250054
>>2250058
better than zomboid, keep posting

>>2249906
>>2249884
nigga it would be faster if you took 5 mins to look at a mod. That said, modding the game doesn't just work. i once made a 2 recipes mod to convert ammo. And it would crash the game if you enabled it via main menu instead of the save file, only on windows 10, no error given.

Your catbox is down, but my guess is to try changing "module" in line 1 to "module Base"

>>2252140
>realize that the gig is up and they should actually finish the game they promised they would finish
They can't finish it, that's the thing, that's what will kill them.

They should've just stopped the scope creep and made a fuckload of 'scenarios' to survive.
They fucked up by making the game a sandbox, good sandboxes usually still have fucking endings.

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>>2252293
PZ already has an ending

>>2252300
That's their copout nihilism on display. The game was supposed to have win conditions like 'keep your wife alive until her leg heals' and such.

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>>2252278
i got it to not throw an error and i can spawn it in dev mode but that was after hours of effort and finally just looking up a video that basically said to do that.
then i looked up how recipes are formatted and immediately was against it again. god damn i just have zero desire to do this. i thought it would be fairly straightforward but it doesn't seem to be.

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>>2252318
like what the fuck does this mean. do i have to mod the translation file too? i consider myself pretty fluent in english but FUCK i just find it confusing.
anyway, it doesn't matter. i've very good and just giving up on things. we're all going into the ground eventually, none of this matters.

>This is how you got absolutely shredded.

>>2252293
scenarios sound gay, i want my sandbox. i just want the sandbox to be interesting.
ultimately it needs a little something more, idk what. npcs are gonna suck, are we really gonna have the chance to get instapopped by some military guy with a rifle in a permadeath game? or will the military be nothing but good guys who want to help the player? i don't understand what their logic is here.
i don't know what will make the game better. the inherent problem is everything is menu driven. building is not fun because it's simultaneously unintuitive, and when you figure it out it's literally just clicking a button with the right stuff in your inventory. it's hard to imagine a more boring way to implement the mechanic. watch your player carve shit, or read a book. it's like the sims but as a foreveralone incel. it's kind of awful.
the only fun, interactive thing is fighting zombies. everything else feels bad, plays worse. even looting sucks. i can't use a pallet jack? a hand cart? a goddamn plastic toy wagon? why are these options not in the game?

>>2252319
It's just cosmetic, i have seen worse but yes, it's not great. The game doesn't even have a proper modding wiki

>>2252331
also where are the skateboards? roller blades? CDDA has these. not even a goddamn bicycle?

>>2252277
>yeah i bet they were perfect ballerinas.
Yes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qzTwBQniLSc

Keep in mind you don't need fucking plate armor to be zombie-proofed.
Plate armor is 'let a dude swing a fucking sword at you all day' proof, a far higher standard of protection.

>>2252539
Like two layers of leather at most across your body would make you effectively invincible.
Also the only thing armor stops you from doing mobility-wise is swimming, but we can't swim in this game anyway so it doesn't matter.

>>2252548
The average 90's lakeside American wouldn't know how to swim.

>>2252331
they would need to make the game more arcadey for npcs to be fun
longer TTK from firearms, faster on the fly healing etc

Can you bite through plastic soda bottles easily? I mean actually bite through not 'tiny tip of a tooth making it through'.
Fucking plastic-bottle armor would be piss easy to make, a good sewing needle would go through it, especially if heated. And it'd barely weigh a thing.

Added plastic soda bottle armor
9 tailoring
Gives you instant uncurable suicidal depression as soon as you put it on due to how uncomfortable it is
80% move and attack speed debuff
10% bite protection
20% scratch protection

>>2252812
>Requires rare aramid/sinew thread
>Requires max level tailoring crafting table (requires level 5+ skills in pottery, metalworking, carpentry, masonry, etc)
>Accidentally weighs 5x more than it's supposed to, never fixed

>>2252745
wouldn't zombies have issues with their teeth also? like to the point they break and fall out easily from trying to bite into armored people.

>>2252974
Zombies in general would have all kinds of problems with everything. With how they strain their muscles, probably rip tendons and get all kinds of minor cuts, bumps and fractures just shambling around or chasing after people; since they're not exactly alive enough to repair all that minor damage it'll add up really fast after a week or so.

>>2252974
Most zombies would expire after a few days at most due to lack of hydration and calories.
The virus basically turns people into very weird perpetual motion engines.

>>2252974
Zombies in general require some suspension of disbelief because IRL death tend to make a lot of very important things not work, and your brain being alive again doesn't really matter if your body can't support its own weight from neglect and injuries.

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why does this cause a crash to desktop at load? can recipes not be in the same .txt as an item?

>>2253551
https://pastebin.com/VQ75EhCz
console log

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>>2252125
>-69

>>2252277
>"Armor isn't seriously encumbering"
>*snively annoying clogged nose voice* heh, yeah dude they're not BALLERINAS doing GYMNASTICS like you implied by saying the armor doesn't turn them into a mountain that walks 1 foot a year
Do people think this works or something?

>>2252277
>armor is encumbering
Properly fitted armor is not restrictive at all and even people with very little training are barely affected, let alone someone who have to wear one regularly.
Hell, you can technically sleep in one if you really need (although it's not great).
It's not to say armor doesn't have downsides which worsen as you get tired:
>heat management is difficult, not from the outside weather, but rather your own body, as it gets harder for the heat to escape
>fatigue, armor doesn't tire you out just by wearing it, but inevitably add an extra weight to everything you do
>metal armor makes a ton of noise which would probably attract zombies in a wide radius
>wearing and removing armor is a fucking nightmare
>closed helmets make hearing more difficult and limit vision, especially vertically, and make it hard to breath, there's a reason closed helmets quickly came with the ability to open
That being said, in a zombie apocalypse, you wouldn't need a full suit of plate armor, guns don't care about plate, and teeth would struggle against even a thick jacket.
The point is, a gambeson, a padded coif, some boots and vambraces would be more than enough against zombies, plate is overkill.

Should note that armor on the upper body generally has no long-term issues for people, but armor on the legs will in fact objectively limit your stamina IRL. Every pound added to your legs makes it harder to move for long periods of time, even if you can still break into a sprint.
Which is fine because zombies don't attack your legs ingame.

>>2252537
In all fairness, this looks far lighter and better crafted than the bullshit Ned Kelly armor we get in game
Which begs the question: Why the fuck is that the end goal of blacksmithing?

>>2254059
>Why the fuck is that the end goal of blacksmithing?
Realizing you wasted your life, both in game and IRL.

>>2254070
PZ smithed armor turns you into a tank.
That's not enough for some people.

>>2254098
A tank which cannot actually fight, in a game where battles are won via damage rather than taking hits...
A tank which cannot carry loot, in a game where adventuring is dictated by loot capacity...

>>2254098
Almost unplayably heavy unless your character is strong and you're carrying absolutely nothing besides your armor and a weapon.

>>2254107
>>2254162
hmm it's almost like it's late game armor intended for defending your safehouse. obviously you should be situational with your equipment and not use it all the time. knights didn't go around in full kit in their day-to-day.

is TIS pace of work proof that fully remote doesn't work? people are less motivated to work when they are comfy in their house.

>>2254185
Defending my safehouse from fucking what? All the zombies I killed in the weeks or months I spent living there building the infrastructure and resources and skills required to make the plate armor?
There weren't even any more significant zombie populations in the entire town by the time I had plate armor, there was nothing to defend against except the odd lone straggler.

>>2254185
At least play the fucking game before you talk about it.
"Safe Houses" ingame almost universally have no zombies around it, especially so if you've grinded enough skills to get high end armor in the first place.
By the time I have BASIC metalworking set up, there's no zombies in a near kilometer radius around my base.

>>2254185
If the number of zombies you need to kill to make such armor in the first place haven't killed you yet. Why would the stragglers remaining require such armor to kill?

>>2254185
>intended for defending your safehouse
Maybe you might want to play the game you're defending before saying something so fucking retarded.
Not only is this rarely an issue to begin with unless you're settled right in the middle of a town, you'll have cleared out the surrounding area clean long before you can start blacksmithing in the first place.
>obviously you should be situational with your equipment and not use it all the time
And there's no situation where you'd want to use it, period.
The buff is pointless, you don't want to get grabbed by a zombie to begin with because even if you don't take damage, being unable to move for several seconds is insanely dangerous if there's more than one zombie involved, but worse, the debuff literally negate the buff because the slower combat speed tend to get you grabbed a lot more often and make killing zombie so much slower that you start creating a blob of zombies in your location, which completely negate armor thanks to their ability to drag you down.
The only situation where you could use armor is when fighting a single zombie in the middle of nowhere, and if you're such in dire need of armor to be able to do so, you'll never survive long enough to make it to begin with.

>Make convoluted liquids system where you can make abominations of alcohol, milk, soda, water
>Add 'auto-drink' system so players can still drink water automatically
>DON'T give option to auto-drink other fluids to players
Why is Lemmy so fucking inconsistent? Just make a 'if water > 50%, autodrink default' else 'autodrink optional' system.

>>2254286
Because the liquid system was quickly slapped on top of the game without really any thought on what it should do or be used for, it's just a "feature" so that it looks like they're adding content.
They want it to be wide as an ocean at the cost of being deep as a puddle, but it's just wide like a really large puddle and they can't figure out how to pour more water in it.

>>2248724
you assume Lemmy has eaten food

>>2254185
>Alright guys, we're headed off to war!
>Wear armor? Preposterous! We're not under siege!

>>2254185
>defending your safehouse
This is solved like 10 minutes into the game lol

>>2254185
Lemmy...

>>2253551
>can recipes not be in the same .txt as an item
they can, sometimes, sort of. but it gets messy and is prone to bugging out, which is why most mods seperate them.

>>2252331
>uhmmm the game's original premise sounds gay so they shouldn't do it
>ive never played pvp mp or the week 1 mod so i have no idea how getting shot works lol

>>2254185
>late game armor
yet it still sucks balls LOL

>>2254612
me after I finish plowing the zombie cheerleader I have chained up in my basement

>>2254621
Just because you hit her over the head with a wrench and gave her brain damage doesent mean she is a zombie anon

>>2254612
me after I finish plowing my zomboid deer wife

>>2254612
Post the other one.

>>2254612
>tfw just finished the shitting minigame but my Bowel Movement is only level 7

>Patches are so fucking slow that even Retanaru has almost given up on reading patchnotes
Kek

>- A new custom percentage of door opening zombies can be set in sandbox settings.
>-- Cognition must be set to "Random" not "Navigate and Use doors" for this.
whomst would want this

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>>2256188
>who

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>>2252301
thats more or less a storyline that wouldve followed kate and baldspot. Mind you it's still meant to be expanded upon into a full campaign that will replace the game's tutorial but only post build 46 so..... If you care about that you can just wait about 20 years ish? roughly estimating ofcourse.

meet POTENTIAL GAME

>>2257135
>TFW StarCitizen will release before Zomboid does

>make beta for new crafting
>dont add new crafting
and lemmy thinks people would give a shit if he sold this game to some actual devs

this is the ragdoll update

>>2257634
>>2258042
>shooting rework (its just the old system but your character is more accurate and misses stun zombies now)
>ragdolls
>farming rework (new plants are cool but who the fuck asked for the rest of the nonsense like plants becoming "cursed")
>fishing minigame
>fluid system
>weapon parts/sharpness
>pottery
>all the random nerfs because the devs hate that players are able to speed up boring skill grind or outsmart brainless zombies (hordes being able to break tall fences is good, attacking sheet ropes and walking around knee-high fences is retarded)
W H O asked for this shit?
Name a single person that went "Oh damn NPCs are nice and all but i would really love to have the PZ dev team focus on this feature first" Lemmy doesent count

>>2258051
>farming rework (new plants are cool but who the fuck asked for the rest of the nonsense like plants becoming "cursed")
You forgot 'massively insanely higher growth times and SEASONS'
Just what the game needs, plants which statistically cannot be grown because the fucking season changes and all the plants die even if you plant at the start of the good season.

>>2258051
>all the random nerfs
I tested out B42 when it came out, one of the first things I see, most low encumbrance stuff like ripped sheets and nails have had their weight multiplied by 5 or 10. Shills will then come here and say it was necessary and they cannot revert it because changing a float you just changed back to its original value cannot be done because it just can't you heckin chud.

>>2258085
>Cows (literally 1-2 million calories of meat/fat/muscle) only giving 2000 calories on butchering
>This has been an issue for literally 14 fucking months
>It's not even a balance issue as fish regularly give out like 2k+ calories and are easily caught
>It's just done out of sheer spite for no reason

>>2258051
See, I was into the crafting stuff like weapon parts, sharpness and pottery, etc. Because I was naive enough to think it would be used to make something cool and fun like a quality system and making the durability system more interesting. But nope, it's all dogshit.

How we feeling about the new patch, boys? My double barrel shotgun no longer double shoots by accident so its a buff to me. Its even easier to justify now that the pump was nerfed.
Also, maybe its just a placebo effect, but the patrol revolver is surprisingly handy now. Doesn't consistently 1 shot headshot, but close enough.

>>2258303
its based. it also goes to show to all the naysayers that TIS is not going anywhere, and they still update the game.

>>2258303
>Its even easier to justify now that the pump was nerfed.
Double Barrel was always the superior shotgun.

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Yo holy fuck is zomboid saved????? I can floss now bros

>>2258877
unironically I really enjoyed the old B41 mod that added the sims UI and functions like brushing your teeth.
It adds way more depth to the game. I forgot the mod series name since it's been awhile but I remember the creator had a ton of awesome mods that added the sims stuff and a superior in-game hair/makeup changing menu.

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how the fuck am i supposed to move this heavy bitch? i can't even put it into my inventory so i don't think i can load it into a car trunk either.
jesus christ TIS add fucking handcarts/dollies to the game pls.

>>2259134
i can't equip it either, it just fails, probably because i can't put it in my inventory
am i just carrying too much shit?

>>2259134
You have to drop all your shit to carry it

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what happened here? what does the letter say?
the wallet has 2 dollars in it btw

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has mccoy logging always had loot like this? half of these crates have at least one box of nails as well as an assortment of tools.
i used to cum in my pants when i found a box of nails.

>>2259363
I think they fucked up the loot tables sometime during the unstable

>>2259363
Yes.
We often settled nearby with friends and that warehouse always gave up a billion nail boxes, seeds, tools, etc...
Each crate just spawn standard garage/warehouse items and there's a ton of them.

>>2258847
I felt that way, but in 42.13, I constantly had problems because the gun would sometimes need to be reloaded after 1 shot. Pretty sure john zomboid slides both shells in the same reload animation instead of one at a time. So its either I'm wrong and I accidentally interrupt my own reload somehow, or the gun shot 2 shells in one pull.

>>2258051
More like broken farming. Since you have to enable an option to get Z level growing working again as they broke it somehow.

>>2259363
Yeah, mccoy was always basically THE place to go to get tools and building materials

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what is the lore reason for houses visually disintegrating?

>>2259751
i found no seeds but i found a shitload of what you see in my bag.

>>2260865
average joe in the 90's didnt know how to build brick houses that lasted longer than a week

>>2260865
Gameplay abstraction; this happens in real life, it just takes a lot longer. Like 20+ years. I actually like the erosion system a lot, but I prefer to play the game with fast days (20 minute cycles) and a max erosion of 1 year.

>>2260865
>what is the lore reason for houses visually disintegrating?
American plywood houses, the bricks are just a coat of paint.
Building decay happens unrealistically fast, similar to tree growth, neither really needed, and the latter is just a stealth nerf since it's very likely for a tree to pop on the road.

>>2260902
>TIS makes an erosion system but knows the game is so boring no one will see it unless they make it happen in the first month

The erosion system is way too fucking quick because fucking tree-stopping saplings will pop up before shit like corn or tomatoes grow fully.

>>2260865
>>2260900
>>2260962
>Farming is now based on "realistic" timers
>Erosion is not

>>2261006
i'm sure they'll do a balance pass right around the time they're entering retirement age.

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>>2261006
>average crop takes 60-90 days
>a day is an IRL hour long
>if you were to play the game 12 hours a day, it'd takes between 5 and 8 IRL days to see a single crop grow
>some crops would take as much as 20 IRL days to grow
>can't really leave your base because you have to water crops almost every few hours for 5 to 20 days
Holy pointless busy work Batman, doing all that just to get a ton of perishable food that barely feed you, most of which will be lost unless you've bothered bringing a dozen fridges with a dedicated generator.

>>2261144
once you get past the initial phase of clearing/looting/building the game essentially becomes sitting around conserving calories for the winter. a find myself fast-forwarding a lot more as i grind skills and read books.
also, days are 90 minutes now.
you don't have to water them that much anymore. it does rain.

>>2261147
Even then, it's pointless busy work that really just going to nail the fact the late game really doesn't have anything to do.
Also consider that you can't fast forward in multiplayer, and often servers with friends won't play for as long as singleplayer.

>>2261149
I don't play multiplayer, but yeah the no FF thing in MP sucks.
The only thing to do in this game is survive. Figuring out how to do that is the game. The game needs more stuff, a sandbox is only as interesting as the toys in it. But it's never going to be anything more than a survival game at it's core. The purest sort of survival game. Survive hunger, survive zombies. Survive boredom.

>>2261006
>>2261144
It feels like something that's intended to work for multiplayer. I change the sandbox settings on that shit for single player so its not retarded.

>>2261311
sorry I meant like, permanent MP servers if thats not clear, since they'd grow even when you're offline

>>2261312
is there some way to change it retroactively in SP? my nice carefully fortified cul-de-sac looks like shit.

>>2261317
You'd need to add the mod that lets you change sandbox settings to your save's load order

>Retanaru still hasn't made a video on the new patch
Okay when even he's giving up, you know the game is fucked.

>>2261377
let him rest, that nigga has done more work and bugtesting than the actual devs

>>2261377
The game is abandonware. Shills just pretend that the font of the Closed sign in front of the shop changing once a month is akshually proof the shop owner is hard at work.

>>2261377
To be fair it was a pretty nothingburger patch.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBSXrtGIHt4
>ret finally uploaded
>it's just about sunday driver

>>2261377
He said he was working on it in a twitch stream, but obviously he has limited incentive, and I don't blame him. He said other things pertinent in his streams
>their tendency to fix a problem only for an old problem to re-emerge
>the fact they are constantly changing how things happen/are simulated in the woods without documenting a damn thing.
So some point you just have to shrug and assume it's almost wasted effort trying to keep up with TIS's schizophrenic patching process.

https://projectzomboid.com/blog/news/2026/02/press-q-to-say-hi/
cautiously optimistic about this one
management has clearly been PZs biggest issue and he seems to have his head on straight compared to king lemoid based on what he talks about here
Godbless having a non european to actually make guns immersive and not retarded (hopefully)

>>2261956
>actual ex-military outdoors survival/camping guy directing things
holy shit, could be revolutionary.

>Moving forward, one of my big priorities will be consistency across both the game world and how the player interacts with it. There are a lot of very rewarding and complex game systems in PZ, but many of those systems were developed by different people and at different times, and this has led to disparate presentations which creates frustrations for players. This will be a long-term process focusing on unifying systems, UI, terminology, and more; always keeping in mind that PZ is a game about experiencing the story of ‘How You Died.’
hahaha, yes... YES!

>>2261956
He seemed cool as fuck and then I got to
>Sometimes, “realism” is a good guideline, such as increasing the number of firearms existing in 1993 Kentucky, or ensuring the propane tank design is American, not European. But we also don’t want to add “realism” for realism’s sake when it’s just a pain in the butt, for example your generator pull cord randomly breaking would be realistic (mine has a few times), but doesn’t add much to the “fun.” This may seem like minor wordplay, but it is an important foundation to set.
If he can actually follow through and get results, PZ is going to be improved big time

I'll believe it when I see the results

>>2261973
He has military experience. That is alone is a HUGE upside, and not just because of the stuff he learned. It's the entire disciplined mindset: making plans, executing them, following through. It's one of the last institutions where discipline is not prioritized but a core mission objective of it's own.
Compared to Lemmy's regularly meltdowns and temper tantrums... I guarantee this guy has never flipped out because of some bad words online.

>>2261981
>discipline is not prioritized
not just* prioritized

>>2261981
>He has military experience
Means jack and fuck, honestly. Zomboid isn't a hardcore operating game with combined arms tactics, it's a zombie survival game. Any serious survival shit you learn beyond bare minimum basics is stuff you pursue on your own in the military. This isn't even getting into all the pitfalls about how a lot of soldiers rarely have expertise, very few infantryman actually know how their firearms work, the history behind it and the skills of exceptional marksmanship.

>>2261993
Did you read beyond that first four words, buddy? That was not the thrust of my argument at all.
It's about his mindset, not specific skills. And I doubt he served as MP without being a very grounded, rational dude.

What do chickens eat? Grass?
Just realized my chickens are starving for some reason.

>>2261972
>like 1:1 what GabeN said about realism
Have we been delivered from evil?

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This gave me hope for the game for the first time in awhile

>>2262005
nigga they eat bugs wtf

>>2262224
They should be thriving in this game.

>>2262224
yeah idk they were fine for like a month but then i checked them and it said they were starving. but they do eat grass in a trough so whatever, crisis averted.

i found some dried wheat, what can i do with it? i can thresh it for seeds with right click but i don't see any cook recipes that use it, i'm guessing i need to process it into flour? any ideas how one does this?

>>2262233
nevermind i had a big brain moment and found the quern in the build menu.

>>2262228
Kentuckians shot every bug to death in the local area, that's why they weren't prepared for the apocalypse.

>>2261956
A lot of talk, and no action. All cock no balls.

>>2261981
>He has military experience
Doesn't mean anything, ex-army types range massively in ideology. You get those weirdos who go 'nobody needs to own a fully semi automatic ayyy arrr, dats ASSAULT RIFLE for you uneducated types, fith teenz!'

>>2262279
lol all the usual suspects so traumatized they can't imagine it getting better
stay mad

>>2262282
>Heh, chuds stay mad
Has anything actually changed? Is the game good now?
>Well, no but...Stay mad!
You're supposed to be mad if shit is shit, are you retarded?
>A but yeah