the pure class masteries aren't going to make up for anyone being able to get blast bones, scarab, streak or even the insane flat crit damage you can get from assassination and aedric spear passives. they ruined the game

>>2252457
we haven't even seen all the class mastery passives yet.
they could be competitive enough that players will consider not using subclasses

>>2252461
a passive will not be be better than getting all the passives from assassination in addition to abilities such as merciless resolve, it won't happen. i don't think merciless resolve is overpowered either i think it's perfectly fine within nightblade. it's not perfectly fine with scarab and fucking streak, both of which abilities are fine on their own. all of these problems were created for no reason

>>2252484
I don't think class masteries will be better than subclasses either, that's why I used the word 'competitive' in that post. If they're good enough, some people might prefer them over the hassle of leveling an entire skill line again.

Where do you report duplicate threads? This is getting ridiculous.

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Is this a lot of tel var? Any ideas on how should I spend it?

>>2252777
that is a considerable amount of telvar

Do khajiit sleep 14 hours daily?

>>2253220
probably not, otherwise we would hear it every time khajiit stereotypes come up

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Society

>>2254283
looks stupid as fuck like everything in this game

>>2254714
you look stupid

Anyone know when the next event starts?

Any EoS announcement predictions?

>>2254847
jester's festival at the end of march
we don't have a specific date yet

>>2255072
not happening anytime soon
Todd's been sleeping on elder scrolls and only giving attention to fallout
the franchise is being carried solely by ESO

>>2255072
August 12th 2036

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>>2255072
Year 2041 Zenimax will annouce ESO end of service. At the same time, Zenimax will officially release the VRMMORPG ESO2. ESO2 will be virtual reality game like from the anime SAO.

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>>2255082
>the franchise is being carried solely by ESO
Uh oh
/TESG/ trannies won't like this TRUKE

>>2255072
This year is probably make or break, could be anywhere from just 2 to another 10. The DK refresh, overland difficulty and now class mastery are steps in the right direction, but the game could keep bleeding players anyway if the new content isn't good or is spread out too thinly.

There's another danger now too, the new Xbox head is some Indian AI exec with absolutely no game industry experience likely hand picked by Satya "NOOO DO NOT CALL AI SLOP" Nadella. ESO could go into a glorious renaissance and still get shut down because ZOS didn't use copilot to monitor the efficiency of employee bathroom breaks or something, or she could ruin the game herself with ridiculous demands.

>>2255438
It's true. ES related stuff that came out after skyrim and its dlcs:
>Skyrim and Oblivion re-releases
>A card game that already hit EOS while ToT still exists
>Mobile spin-offs, 2 of them
ESO is hard carrying the franchise on its back

>/tesg/
Who cares what that shithole thinks. My posts and screenshots about ES: Castles were ignored there and discussion about the oblivion remaster lasted less than a month. /tesg/ is a place for skyrim mods only.

>>2255491
>ESO is hard carrying the franchise on its back
more people are sat gooning to skyrim mods than playing this dead mmo, you're delusional

>>2255597
cooming ≠ playing the game

>>2255608
I agree but my point still stands

>>2255465
Grim
Jeetsoft might actually kill this game

>Be non western player from a thirdie nation
>Be able to understad english
>Join discord to get trials and harder content done (I don't like it but I have to)
>In all of them, at least one american is a drug addict, mentally ill or both who ends up making the run an extremly awful experience

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>>2255901
RPers are the worst ones imo
they don't take things seriously and just one of them in your group can make the entire run take 7 hours to complete

woth buying now or wait for spring sale?

>>2256423
Spring sale is in april, right?
Isn't that when the next pass releases?

>>2256532
spring sale is in march, anon https://steamcommunity.com/groups/steamworks/announcements/detail/532102384016426892
season zero is the week after

It's reddit posts like these that confuse the fuck out of me. this one claims
>Solstice will be added to ESO Plus in March
https://www.reddit.com/r/elderscrollsonline/comments/1q8mm8k/update_49_stream_summary_and_notes/
and it's the only source i can find. pretty much nowhere does it say so. i even watched this garbage and couldn't hear anything remotely like that. solstice is in the pts, sure, and that's about it.

>>2256543
the game is -75% right now
waiting until march in hopes that it will get even lower is sure a weird gamble

>>2256771
Not at all if you look at the past. The game's always been on sale during spring sale. Why wouldn't it be this year, too? They're expecting new players for Update 49 and Season Zero. Why wouldn't they give them the best opportunity to buy existing content at a huge discount just before they start selling something else. What's their Steam store page going to say after Update 49? That they're currently only selling the main game for 2$ and nothing else until April?
Gold Road with all past chapters cost 17$. People have always been saying that it's the cheapest before a new chapter releases. Nothing's changed regarding their discount pattern for the current expansion nor is it unusual for them to demand money for the next content in April where they used to start selling pre-orders packages.
Also, it seems entiirely unrealistic to expect them to drop Solstice into ESO+ just like that when this only ever occured whenever a new chapter was already available.

>>2256806
have fun with mannimarco

Random group in DLC dungeon 80% of the time someone who doesn't know boss mechanic will active hard mode without telling the group.
Create a group in group finder wanting to do hard mode for DLC dungeon, 2 hours in can't get a full party.
I just don't understand.

>>2257035
>someone who doesn't know boss mechanic will active hard mode without telling the group
never happened to me
>Create a group in group finder wanting to do hard mode for DLC dungeon, 2 hours in can't get a full party
the group finder is mostly for trials and to find a partner for the infinite archive. players generally don't use it for dungeons
you have a better chance at forming a HM group by announcing it on the zone chat

How is the guild doing? I haven't logged on in years.

>>2257116
the same it's been doing for the past 3 years
absolute nothing

Some Gold Road furnishing plans are still valuable. I just sold one for 200k

Imagine making a maxium height Nord only to be greeted by Lyris and questioning if the game is bugged or if you accidentally put the height slider all the way down. This always freaks me out.

>>2257414
Now you made me wonder how Lyris height compares to maximum height altmer

>>2257316
necrom has pretty good ones too

What exactly is the difference between crown soul gem and a regular one?

>>2258290
The art on the icon of the item

>>2258290
both function in the same way, which is kinda strange

when is the bone wolf pet returning

>>2258420
this one?
https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Online:Skeletal_Pack_Wolf
there is no way to know and I can't give you an estimate since it's not part of a crate

>>2258420
>>2258442
for items like this if you had enough crowns in your account you could message customer support and they would subtract the crowns from your account and give you the item. i'm not sure if they do this anymore

>>2258442
that is the one. this years witches festival surely

>>2258469
previous occurrences coincide with the witches festival event, but that is not a guarantee that it will happen

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What do we think of the gold mounts coming on U49?

>>2259221
I like the ebon horse and the goat but I probably won't buy them unless they are cheap. I really want the update 49 crate elephant though, like A LOT

>>2259221
A little mad I bought the guar for crowns last November. But what are you gunna do.

>>2259221
good selection overall. I might get the senche-raht

>>2259294
I don't think these will cost to much
the current horses being sold at stablemasters are 40k each

>>2259221
There is not a single mount in this game that i like. I merely tolerate some more than others. The horses are the worst.

Hey /tesog/
Haven't played the game in 2ish years, wondering how's the state, worth getting back into?
Did the 'classless' rework make the game better build flexibility/combat balance/variety-wise and how was last year's new content out of curiosity?
And what's this about romances, is the flirting dialogue just flavor or did they actually add npc romance? And is this available in old content or just latest expansion (not romances, but the dialogue in general)
Anything else that I should know?

>>2259811
They replaced the studio head who had prioretized making a different mmo (said mmo also got axed). There is a lot more communication from zos now too.
Right now I would say we are in restructuring when it comes to content. We are getting battle passes soon which would be the new paypig thing. Stuff like strories, dungeons and zones will be free. Existing dlc and chapter dlc will gradually become free, starting with Greymoor this summer(?).
Subclassing in my opinion was the greatest thing they have introduced to the game. You now have a ton more flexibility when it comes to making your character. Though now everything is fatecarver in pve and pvp is just a few of the strongets skill lines dominating with little to no variety.
Last year was fine, they introduced a new island south of black marsh where the worm cult have invaded.
There is one npc that is able to be romanced(i think), the rest iis just flavour and doesn't actually lead to anything. Old content stayed the same.
There is going to be an update in just under two weeks with tons of quality of life improvements and Dragon Knight class changes. Battle passes will come later and oh new harder(?) pve content in the form of the night market, but I believe I heard it got nerfed a bit, so idk.

>>2259221
I just want the guar, the rest can kiss my cloaca

>>2259811
subclasses made build varieties worse, everyone now uses the same skill lines. they are trying to fix this by doing reworks on every class and adding more passives for players that opt-out of subclasses.
>romances
there are some new dialog options to flirt with npcs and we just had an event centered on companions.
>Anything else that I should know?
this year is focused on QoL improvements with little new content

>>2259926
what's the obsession with guars?

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I sure love queuing for pledges as a dps

>>2260068
They look funny

Is there a good reason to have more than one character?

>>2260209
zehahahaha dead game

>>2260464
>storage space
>subclassing
>spying in Cyrodiil
>variety
I've been playing inconsistently since launch and only ever had one character until subclassing.

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Is getting a look similar to Sir Vilhelm from ds3 possible in ESO?

>>2260479
The game could have 999999999 players and you still wouldn't be able to find a group if they're all dps subhumans like you

>>2260694
You can find good motifs for all pieces in your image except the chest one. I don't recall anything that looks like that in the game

>>2260943
I appreciate the response.
Yeah I wasn't expecting ponchos or capes, so I am not disappointed that there aren't anything similar.
What is the best way to check clothes and armor in ESO? Is it possible in game? I don't mind if there are only third party ways to do so, but it would be cool if I can just check out stuff while inside the game

>>2260997
it is possible to try almost every outfit in the outfit station, even the ones you don't own

>>2260464
Doing dailies more than once in a zone

>>2261022
>almost every
There are quite a bunch that are simply unavailable for preview because piece of shit ZoS put them in crates, crown store or whatever. You will absolutely see a player wearing something you've never seen one day.

>>2259918
>>2260023
Thank you, I guess I'll hop back in when the next update hits and roll a DK style character.
Hope they balance subclasses better if the build monotony is the case in pvp/group pve

Have you ever RP'd in ESO? If so, how was it?

>>2261344
there are like what, 6 of those?

>updates
Daily login rewards & endeavors removed (March 1,2)
DK & 2handed overhaul, stablemaster gold mounts, vamp & werewolf quest NPCs (March 9)
Gold Coast Bazaar storefront (March 25)
>events
Golden Pursuits for farming seals (March 3)
Skill line XP boost (March 9)
Jester's Festival (March 25)
>twitch streams
Player Experience Improvements (March 26)
2026 Seasons Direct (March 31)

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>>2261610
>Daily login rewards & endeavors removed

>>2261624
We're getting Tamriel Tomes in April to replace the Endeavor system

>>2261629
wow, the "battlepass" system with limited reward choices
how exciting

Would going F2P bring in more players?

>>2261636
Yes, but not by much I imagine
This isn't exactly a new game.

>>2261610
>Jester's Festival
I can't wait for this event. The one bad knight outfit style looks great, kinda has a souls like armor feel I love it

>>2261636
You really don't want that.

>>2259918
>said mmo also got axed
What was it supposed to be?

>>2261588
No. RPers are a menace to society

>>2261976
I've never interacted with any in ESO, are they the same coomer ERP horde as they are in WoW?

>>2261966
Some sci-fi shit that was in development since 2018. I think they called it blackbird or maybe that was just the placeholder name

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>>2261588
only ERP
I regret it
Go on, ask me why

>>2262192
why what happened?

>>2262225
there's too many mentally ill people playing anon, they will get criminally obsessed with you or whoever they are rp'ing with

>>2262245
QRD on what happened? I'm intrigued

>>2261979
you can check them out for yourself at the rimmen pools

>>2261985
They took half of the ESO team to develop a new game and after 5 years they had almost nothing to show for it.
Blackbird was a waste of resources

>>2259918
>Existing dlc and chapter dlc will gradually become free,
They never said that! Greymoor is becoming free because of something it introduces to the entire game, I don't recall the name, archeology? Whether they make every old content free eventually is something they NEVER clarified. That's OUR interpretation.

>>2261729
It's already as f2p as Black Desert with its discounts and giveaways.

Should I spend all my endeavor seals before the feature is removed?

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>>2262819
I mean it is not just greymoor but the year one dlc as well and march of sacrifies and moon hunter keep dungeons. Also by the logic of greymoor becoming free because it adds something to the entire, other chapters should become free too. High Isle for ToT and Summerset for jewelry crafting, etc.
Yeah I guess it's just our interpretation though I believe they did say all future content that aren't battle pass related will be free. Not sure where I got that past dlc will be free as well, but why why would zos just stop at making a few of the dlc free?
>>2263195
The seal of endeavors aren't getting removed the sourcing is just changing from the daily/weekly things you do to something you get from Tamriel Tomes, though apparently I am wrong all the time so don't take my word for it

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>>2263195
apparently seals aren't going away entirely (?)
doesn't make much sense

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>>2263195
Source Kevin the community manager from the forums

>>2263409
So they're just changing the way you get seals.
I'm fine with that

>>2263402
They'll add solo versions of group dungeons, starting with two (Moon Hunter Keep and March of Sacrifices. I'm not sure if they'll become free with that change too or if they'll stay paid.

>>2263667
Oh shit you are right. I just thought those would be free as well since they are giving so many freebies, but is just solo dungeons. They will most likely stay as paid dlc, then.

They should make the DLC pledge dungeon of the day free to play. Just give generic RND rewards instead of DLC sets. But god damn base game dungeons get bland and I'm not about to get ESO+ for dungeons due to queue times.

>>2263832
nightmarish scenario
vet dlc dungeons would become unplayable

Didn't play for a while, heard about the overland difficultyupdate and that the subclassing has been in for a while. Read the thread and apart from what >>2259918 and >>2260023 answered to the other dude

What is the state of the game in terms of playerbase health? Is it dramatically decreased or still alive and kicking? Does it look like the game has a long life ahead or does it seem like EOS is not too distant (in the next 5 years)

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>>2264846
I am talking about PC because consoles are irrelevant
>Server population decreased considerably, specially after the writing wall event. In 2021 you had up to 20k average players per day on Steam, now it's down to 9k.
>PVP is dead, only the sweatlords keep playing
>PVE random groups are dead, less people willing to teach noobs and less veterans around
>It takes ages to get into a random dungeon
>Random groups for trials (raids) are now extremely rare to find, you'd have to be in a guild and still the group would struggle to fill
>Markets are slow
>Plenty of people used to help you do stuff, now it's only asocial zoomers who are afraid of even using /whisper
This year is the point in which the game is reborn or dies, the devs and decision makers did not treat the player base kindly over the years
TL;DR: It's playable due to all the content but you'll get bored or frustrated easily if you seek group content

>>2264846
>>2264927
https://steamcharts.com/app/306130#All
We're back to pre-covid numbers like most live service games. There's just no way to reach those player counts again without forcing people to stay at home on their computers all day every day.

>>2264927
>>2264937
Grim...is there anything devs can do to bring more people in? Would crossplay help
Also funny imohow WoW retains better numbers, when it's gameplay seems much less deep compared to ESO

>>2264957
The game needs content. QoL improvements are good but what's the point when you will only experience it doing old stuff?

With the end of daily login rewards, I predict a surge in the price of alchemical and provisioning ingredients due to food/pots not being given out for free anymore.

What big features could Zenimax add/rework to bring in new and bring back old players?

>>2265435
remove the craft bag + massively increase bank space

>>2265435
Add full on romancable companions with LOOOOOONG and varied romance quest chains and activities and keep upating them with new content. They will get easy money from lonely people who get to date waifus in a mmo.

>>2265435
Voice chat
Cross platform support

>>2265435
They could fix the queues for group content and provide an incentive to play with people if its a player pop issue.

personally, none of my friends from back in the day still play, but I logged on recently because the game was on my mind.
I go to queue for dungeons -> 2.5 hr + queue because no premade, give up before it pops.
ok no problem, i'm a big boy I can make new friends, time to get new guild so I can get new premades.
apply to guilds on the guild finder, fill out applications like it's a mfing job whatever I have a pretty high champion point level and vet trial clears from back in the day and I can restrain myself from dropping slurs in the application field so no biggie, I'll come back in a few days. wrong, every dude checking the guild apps walked into the woods ten years ago to suck off bigfoot and exactly 0 out of the dozens I applied to accept me.
at this stage I've been online for 5ish hours over multiple days and done absolutely nothing including an astounding 0 minutes and 0 seconds in group content, and doing literally anything else with my life is looking like a more and more appealing prospect every second.

>>2265652
Imagine they add bots to dungeons like WoW did kek

>>2265650
cross platform is already being worked on by the devs

>>2265704
Are they pajeets devs SAAAR?
Coding too slow saaar

>>2265435
Bikini. I'm not buying the countless dogshit outfits they've put into the game. I got that argonian breeder outfit when it released and nothing else. Prudish bastards keep wondering why ESO keeps losing to Black Desert, Final Fantasy XIV or Guild Wars 2 and the shitty fashion is the biggest reason why actual TES enjoyers prefer other mmos.

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>>2265751
Not sure if they have made any later statements regarding it with new info

>>2265435
A new class that streamlines support roles. They're tedious to play so no one does, resulting in hour-long dungeon queues for DDs and trial groups sitting around waiting for a tank.
The battlepass stuff looks promising. They're catering to the MMO cosmetic hoarders without ruining my morrowboomer tourist experience. They should throw crates in with crown store or subscription purchases to engage light spenders.

Other than that there should simply be novel content. Assets reused more creatively. Let players run dungeons and trials from finish to start, prop hunt, mount karting, instanced cities under invasion, an 8 player boss rush version of the IA. Interns could code this shit within a couple of months. I have no idea why the big event of the month is always "grind these dailies from 2016" or "delve bosses drop event loot".

>>2265814
Or they could just delete tanks and healers and make everyone a dps

>>2265814
They should just delete Imperial City and Cyrodiil in their current form and remake them as pve zones. All these assets are being wasted on garbage that nobody's who sane actually cares about. pvpers are subhuman.

>>2266585
Cyro would be a great pve zone. It's already full of delves, skyshards and WBs. the only thing it needs is more NPCs and quests

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I'm convinced that they intentionally made daily rewards worse over the past months so players wouldn't object to its removal

I'm surprised ESO doesn't have a big coomer & ERP scene like WoW does

>>2267098
microslop drove away all ERPers by implementing a chat monitoring AI

Which class should I pick for a werewolf build?

>>2267420
Sorc, NB, and Templar have the best passives for it, but that's very subject to change as we know nothing about the WW rework yet. Base class could stop mattering at all, or matter more than ever, or passives could get changed up as the other reworks roll out.

Do armory slots and outfit slots ever go on sale? I want to buy some but I don't have an imminent need for them. If I can get them with a discount that would be cool

>>2267695
not sure
right now, getting an outfit slot upgrade unlocks it for only one character. That will change after U49

>>2267695
Outfit slots were on sale early last month or the end of January. And I've seen armory slots go on sale for sure.

I hate Liggers

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>>2268071
every single one of them

>>2268071
We should deport all lizards back to black marsh
>>2268145
Arthmoor did nothing wrong

Now the daily and weekly endeavor challenges are gone too