Ugly looking games should run on toasters.
This looks too ugly for my pc to be chugging. Who saw the nose models and went "yeah this is good".

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Do it. Be free.

>>2257481
Yeah, I tried it when it came out and uninstalled it pretty fast. The models still look the same thougheverbeit so my sentiment hasn't changed.

>>2257472
Dynamic lighting and shadows is going to use a lot power and high-res textures will use up all your ram/vram regardless of who good it looks.

>2257513
So now you're lurking in pso2g and bpsrg, neither of which you actually play LMAO

Hello again fellow /pso2g/

>>2257631
He probably addicted to both and just shitposting.

>>2257631
>>2257683
No, I'm just a catalog enjoyer and don't feel ashamed to post in threads that I don't frequent in. But if my 2nd ever post in this general has some schizo trying to connect me to someone, that's pretty funny.
I checked the blue protocol thread, and left a reply too. Just to fuel your schizophrenic antics, anon. >>2257699

The game keeps shrinking and the schizos are running out of places to run.

Posting in a general for a game you don't play is peak degenerate schizo, it doesn't matter how you like to frame it.

>>2257732
I don't post in threads for games I haven't played/aren't interested in playing. Sorry if I my popping in made you seethe so bad.

>>2257711
Wait are you my twin? I do the same.
Lately I do a lot of fly by posting in /v/ I kind of like it more than just frequently sticking to a single general.

W here
Anyone down for some rumble ball in my CS?

>>2257651
Sup big dog

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>>2257774
hello fellow BARKS defender

>>2257747
You had this dead thread open for hours sis

>>2257823
>42 posts in 5 hours
seems pretty alive for a /vm/ thread thougheverbeit

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>casl
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>>2257468
this u?

>>2257481
its ok to stop directing a video game that you're not even playing
>>2257472
it got worse after they changed the anticheat from gameguard to xsigncode and I'm tired of sheep pretending it didn't have any detrimental effect and was optimized
>>2257623
this game is infamous for loading the region mag sound from continents away because these devs have always sucked at optimization and were better at instanced games as they re-load everything in a map on every map load, pso2 was the peak of segas own innovation and they ruined it like the idiots that they are

>>2257882
best post in a good while

waiting for machi to post.

NGS, New Genesis?
More like New Game Stinky

12 MILLION PLAYERS!!!

>>2258124
sorry those are all my alts, I gotta stay F2P after all

>>2258089
Never happens

>>2258089
>Still doing UQs in 2026
wew

>blablablablabla
where is the headline discussion why are the amerifats still asleep

>>2258179
shut up doppel

>>2258230
and is this "doppel" in the room with us right now

Everyone is a doppleganger

Horny...

>skims through headline
>more pso2 music nostalgia bait (even pso2 used its own introduced tracks about all the time)
>0% gameplay and even making people rerun the same alter realm retem quest
if there is no game, why are they even keeping the game up? pso2 may have been 80% fashion 20% game, but the 20% game accounted for 80% of the actual experience and 80% fashion accounted for 20% of the actual experience. what level of skeleton game is this posing as the reboot of pso2?

>>2258363
They stopped active development on the game four years ago. It'll stay online until the cost of modeling a few new bikinis every month is greater than the money they get from the handful of whales still playing. Either they've been making a new Phantasy Star game since 2023 and they're going to try again in a couple years, or they're just going to play it out until it's no longer financially viable.

>>2258386
>it'll stay online until the cost of
now that phil spenser has called it quits hopefully that will be soon, after gathering all the negative feedback through two player surveys done to ensure it was no fluke, they are almost certainly setting up this story to fail to prove that they can shut the game down
>Either they've been making a new Phantasy Star game since 2023
there is no secret game in development, these dinosaurs want to run this cushy "game" until this series is all burnt to the ground, its basically the largest ponzi scheme
>>2258387
and thats how you get a tourist game that only supports tourists that stop by every few years to see if its improved and nothing else inbetween. if you keep telling people don't like don't play, then everyone follows that and the devs are forced to do endless recycling e.g. alter realm retem because nobody played the content. your entire game is on repeat because of your smartass advice. funny that the player character WOULD be the one to break this sort of cycle, BUT obviously the player character is not the same and we are playing a phony game otherwise that would have happened already.

Now he's gonna call you a sega shill or something. Anything but admitting he has issues.

>>2258406
>there is no secret game in development, these dinosaurs want to run this cushy "game" until this series is all burnt to the ground, its basically the largest ponzi scheme
That's just not how a business works, even one in complete shambles like Sega. NGS was shit from day one, but it obviously had a fully-staffed development team working on it full-time up until the end of 2022, at which point they very obviously pulled off everybody except a tiny skeleton crew that finished some of the in-progress projects (Creative Space, Leciel) before getting shuffled off and wound down further.
AFAIK Sega hasn't made the news by firing a whole development team, so they're still employed, and they're not paying them to do nothing, so they're working on something, and it clearly isn't NGS.

It's very possible that they moved them to work on those Jet Set Radio, Crazy Taxi, etc spinoffs they announced, but they almost might not want to let one of their more historically successful franchises die just because it released one terrible flop.

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>>2258386
you might be right that they are giving up development on the game, but it definitely did not start its complete downfall four years ago. after a string of pso2es/sonic collabs nobody cares about as they are part of sega, 2026 started with a cast collab that nobody cares about either. effectively theres been a FIVE MONTH COLLAB DROUGHT ongoing, and because there is only a single collab for april-may and jun-july and aug onwards on the roadmap, there will be TWO and THREE MONTH COLLAB DROUGHT. jun-july might not even count if its sonic shit again. contrary to what the defenders are saying, they are putting even LESS effort into the game. it was never that dire until recently.

>>2258460
You measure the development resources by looking at the content the game is getting, not the cosmetics. Look at how small and half-baked Stia was compared to the first three regions; they obviously decided to pull the plug partway through its development, which would have been mid to late 2022. It then took them more than half of 2023 just to finish Creative Space and Leciel. After that there's really been nothing; Nameless City is cobbled together from existing assets, other additions to the game have just been floating rocks in the old existing areas, different lighting effects, old enemies with a different symbol on their head. The only thing left is, what? Maybe one new Dark Falz fight a year? It's not in active development.

Collabs are just more cosmetics, which don't really require a development team and get replaced with original outfits if there's nothing to do a collab with.

>>2258500
>You measure the development resources by looking at the content the game is getting, not the cosmetic
if nothing is funding or advertising this game, the development suffers as well. its inseparable for this game. despite how much shit people give the fashion, it is the only thing keeping the series alive. the only problem is none of that profit has been channeled into the game and now nothing is funding it.
>It then took them more than half of 2023 just to finish Creative Space
they cited created space updates will depend on the popularity of the mode and it was like 50% or something because duh they didn't even offer a finished product and most pso2 stuff have no sound or are uninteractable to sell paid idle motions.
> It's not in active development.
they cited line strike development is dangled to the devs as a reward for completion of development goals.

>watch headline
>T1 buttler outfit that doesn't look like shit
Yeah I'm thinking NGS is saved.

>>2258620
woah you could buy like 5 of them with that much money

>>2258587
Angery...

>check in the following day
>bpsr schizo is still crossposting
Shitposters without self awareness are so sad desu

>>2258620
yeah, i'm 100% using the paizuri mod on those

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>watch headline
>
Holy based

>>2258671
Yes, what's up.

>>2258700
dumbass he is saying he’s gonna stick his cube in that tit window, keep up

>>2258523
>pso2 stuff no sound or interactable
I was disappointed when I saw it. Wanted to assemble the instruments to play OUR FIGHTING. Instead, it's just a useless prop.

>>2258685
Nothing, just bored

>>2258620
I'll login to buy them, post a screenshot here and then not play again for months.

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>>2258754
Reminder

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>>2258726
I feel you. I was Unity gaming for a bit and gave my VRC character some nerd glasses, it was fun. Now I just listen to this new Glass Beach album before I head out.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ga1esK-kp4Y

>>2258776
Post your VRC character.

>>2258778
So today I cleaned the house, then I took a bubble bath & I went out and had lunch with my [redacted], then I ordered like 30 things off amazon, and now I'm here talking to my 4chan friends like (You).

>>2258777
It's a male avatar, you don't wanna see that.
>>2258778
My fault. Now to keep it on-topic. Favorite Phantasy Star Online 2: New Genesis Weapon camo?

>>2258793
Oh now I have to see it.

McDons ran out of cookies and now I’m sad

>>2258620
Hot but not hot enough to cum back

>>2258778
Post a nude catbox then gayboi

>>2258843
don't talk to him like that

>>2258743
the item is not in the game yet to mod it you troglodyte

>>2258843
https://files.catbox.moe/iwgx6f.png

Multiple people already offering to give me meseta for the new accessory.

>>2259158
Too slow, lots of people are selling them cheap

>>2259123
LMFAO

niggas will gift you a lot of shit as long as you'll put up with their oji-san tier dirty talking and being a dressup doll for them

buy from my shop pls so i can get the fake tits: noitatimi
i will pay you back in erp kudos me im online rn

i’ll just make do with the old tits and be imaginative in erp

Is it easy to buy mesa now

>>2259323
>>2259311

>>2259311
>>2259324
Shut up Rope

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post your character + song if you'd like

>2259324
That's not at all related to my question you trog

>>2259332
rope has a hate boner for doppel dont mind him

>>2259341
You and your boyfriend are literally no different you self hating nigger

>>2259348
Shut up Angery

>>2259311
But why?

>>2259357
he found out doppel's new name and is larping as him to shitpost

>>2259311
if the real noi replies to this post with a screencap showing full ui i will gift them 100million as a welcome back present

>them

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Can someone paypal me 30,000,000 n-meseta desu

>>2259386
You'd have to put on some pretty degenerate mods for me, to get that kinda mesa desu

>>2259389
>>2259311

>>2259386
Just sent 67 million
enjoy

qrd on noi

>>2259424
No

horny...

>>2258620
when are these coming?

>>2258418
talk about the headline then if you like it so much instead of others having to sift through for any improvement. what do you think a discussion board is? an rp board? anyway what happened to this game introducing people to series that isn't isekai media?
>>2258676
>furries ruin everything
not helping to beat the joke allegations with this dying game at first it was persona 5 collaborations and you know what that probably was the start of ruination too

>>2258676
baraCHADs won

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Where did all the pso2g anons run off to now?

why cant someone cute like machi post as much as you fags? tired of seeing all of you cringelords.

>>2259591
They're newfags, no activity in a thread = no posting.

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>>2259422
I didn't get anything althoughbeit

when will pso2 day ends.

>>2259718
lol xD

How come Global is dead while JP still has players in the 5 digit range? What went wrong?

>>2259801
they have a higher tolerance for eating shit I guess

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>>2259330

>>2259801
The game still gets marketed to the jp player base where as global's marketing branch has completely given up, and allegedly actively conspiring to sabotage it given the many times they've completely lost the plot and fucked things up from a marketing stand point. It should not be hard to market anime space game to weebs.

>>2259589
The answer is always gacha games
>>2259718
Literally 1984
>>2259801
Jp has 10 years of attachment while global only has 2. They actually think that supporting this shit game is "thanking" sega for pso2.
>>2259848
The real reason is that the japanese are downright vicious and nasty in negative remarks...but only behind closed doors. So sega of japan gets to run a meat grinder machine that many unsuspecting players fall into because the sheep auto silence themselves instead of bleating. Example of absolute vile closed door critism that the devs will never hear:
https://rocketnews24.com/2026/02/24/2653445/
So basically hiro was in effect redundant all along because the japanese generally won't air the dirty laundry on social media out of respect for the company, instead directing other players to use email feedback that goes nowhere. Player number doesn't matter. Turnover rate and whether people stay does. Just because phantasy star disneyland gets visitors everyday doesnt mean that the park is getting good updates. It just means the playerbase has become so geriatric theyd settle for dext base slop even after cradle slop. Tower of Fantasy made scifi anime mmo real again and laid back sfter two years like every gacha game. Sega hasn't picked up the slack at all now that its back to the only anime space scifi mmo on the market.

>>2259901
>Sega hasn't picked up the slack at all now that its back to the only anime space scifi mmo on the market.
Which goes back to the real root problem as far as global is concerned. "How the fuck we undo all of the damage done to make the game marketable to global side of things?" Again it should not be hard to market an anime scifi rpg to weebs, the same shit they use to pander to the Japanese works all the same, so there's really no need to cater to western standards or tastes, that shit was thrown out the window everytime China blatantly shows that by ripping off literally any and all unapologetic Japanese anime tropes known thus far, westerners both weebs and even normies will eat that ahit up no problem. What's been done to pso2 reputation is a serious problem for the game as that no matter how you slice it is a mass access of revenue they need but can no longer properly tap into due to how horrible the reception is and virtually nothing in all that time has been done to fix it. I imagine this notion that "global is unsalvagable" how everyone over seeing this disaster is still holding on to their jobs, but someone needs to call them out on this and tell them "that's bullshit. You had like 4 years to get this under control"

>>2259917
The window to "undo the damage" was the first six months after launch. That chance has been gone for years.

>>2259954
No even after those first six months they still had time hell as >>2259917 even stated, the fact Pso2 by the some unexplained phenomenon, Pso2 is back to being the only scifi anime mmo on the market and really action anime mmo in general means they still could actually be working to fix this mess. It isn't a "they had one chance and they blew it" kinda thing. It's more of "the longer this wild trash fire burns, the more the house gets caught on fire." That's and even worse and more urgent scenario because this effects not just pso2Ngs by itself, but the whole IP of Phantasy star and then even further than that, Sega's credibility itself.

>>2259962
I meant as stated here in>>2259901

>>2259962
No, it's a "they had two chances and they blew both of them" situation.

They had one chance when the game launched, but it flopped.
They had a second chance to say, at some point in the first ~6 months, "We fucked up, and we're going to fix it," presented with a clear plan of action. They didn't do that.

Games don't turn around when they flop out of the gate and then continue doing the things that made them flop for the next year, let alone two years, let alone two years of the same shit followed by drastic reductions in content production. It doesn't matter if it has some unique selling point or particular niche, and it wouldn't make a difference even if Sega somehow decided to restart full production on the game.

>>2259984
>Games don't turn around when they flop out of the gate and then continue doing the things that made them flop
That's basically my point. They have well more than two chances to correct the course, they still get chances even now. But my point is the longer they wait and continue to do shit. In only gets harder and harder and harder to repair the damage. You are dead right they can't just start over completely and make a new game. That was what I meant when I said the longer they keep NGS like this, the worse it will be for any future Phantasy star title.

>>2259999
No, they HAVE to start over and make a new game (if they want Phantasy Star to continue being an active IP, which they may not). NGS will never do any better than it’s doing now, no matter what they do with it.

Repairing the damage doesn’t get “harder and harder.” It starts off hard, and then becomes impossible.

It’s dead. It’s over. It’s long past the point where there’s any damage for NGS left to do to the next Phantasy Star game, if there is one. Nothing they do to it will damage a potential next game any further, and nothing they do to it will make the next game more successful.

>>2260036
Okay so let me ask you this, say they do start over and make a new game. If the same people who ran NGS are still their, the reputation and bad taste NGS left is still there fresh in people's minds with almost nothing that shows a hint of being well managed. Why should anyone give any reason to care about this new game that comes out? As it stands a new process would just be another NGS. If you don't make the changes at NGS, your never gonna make the changes ever because everyone will still point the Dumpster fire you allowed to grow called NGS.

>>2260045
Because this scenario happened with ep5 with the same director and ep6 fixed a majority of issues because you need a new director to truly fix the issues of the previous director. Every year has been an opportunity to turn this game around and each year they rot the series to its core instead. This is why people expect better to begin with and why ngs has been doomed to failure because there has always been better than this and sega should have figured this that people will never be truly satisfied because they know this game could be a hundred times better. People who never went through the actual ep5 era and tourists gatekeep this game from ever improving. Left to run the game for 5 years because they kept painting the critics as doomers and look at what the game has become. Anyone who defends the game has lost all credibility.

Game is shit. Sega doesn't care when they put the retard of ep5 in charge. It's a smoldering wreck relying on memories to keep you around.

>>2260045
They have to start over because this is the failure arc which started with ep4 and ep5. Ep4 was executive meddling demanding they make an isekai anime tiein. When that horribleness failed, they returned to the original ep4 plan in ep5. a horrible interpretation of falz origins. This reboot of pso2 called ngs focused on and acchieved both, it was a shitty isekai and a shitty falz reinterpretation if every leader on halpha is a reincarnation of the previous falz. Ngs is the worst of pso2 given form again that has nothing to do with the space faring arks at all that people played this game for to begin with. Thats why people are saying to scrap it all and start with a new game. Even with the same director which godno should not happen but touch wood it would still be better than ngs even if beset with similar problems because this premise is already beyond fucked because sega learnt nothing from the ep4 ep5 episodes.

>>2260098
>Because this scenario happened with ep5 with the same director and ep6 fixed a majority of issues
Why do you think I keep saying changes need to be done at NGS? That's exactly what needs to happen. A new director and new producer. That's the changes that needs to happen and it needs to happen at NGS to show that going forward their will be actual effort being put into improving games from here on out. NGS is where that point needs to be made because that will show there would an actual sincere attempts being made into actually improving this game and future games, as opposed to scrapping this and jumping to the next as the next lazy cash grab

what in the fuck

Blint save us from this mass shitposting...

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>>2260161
>Discussing the state of the game is shitposting

Guys I'm not going to read all of that also why is it soooo cold today!?!?!?!?!?
I'm wrapped in a blanket with a heater running and I'm still freezing!!!!!!

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>>2259330
Buzz
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XugTKgUWtUw

>>2260142
They had every chance to make sincere attempts but stopped making player surveys after retem and stopped making item design contests using a dumb rainskipper creator drama as a given excuse, which explains why they made the global version, to scapegoat all problems and so many sheeple fall for it. There is no "toxic community", they lump RMT and bots as player toxicity to inflate numbers, and presented cases per month as a lump sum of all cases so far to confuse readers into an impression that they are doing anything active about the game. And this afk detection. Waiting at the eq gather spot like a newbie instead of warping via map? Waiting in an open map for a free field boss with others or gigantix during rainy weather like the start of the game? Get matchmaking sanctioned or banned idiot. Yeah I can see segas implementation of anything going well. Remember expert matchmaking that weeded all the bad players? They don't want to create a better experience. They just don't want to manage the game and would rather automate it to death. Ironic, as this is what they are going after.

>>2260233
>They had every chance to make sincere attempts but stopped making player surveys after retem and stopped making item design contests using a dumb rainskipper creator drama as a given excuse, which explains why they made the global version, to scapegoat all problems
That's exactly my point. That whole post is my entire point. It's why I'm saying no one should be asking for a new pso or a start over of anything, before anything else they should demanding public apologies, demanding mass firings and demotions, demanding that Sega and this time finally take this game seriously before even thinking of moving on and trying to sweep away what realistic, when consider the entirety of pso2's life, a 12 year life span of them fucking up what should have been easy money.

Give it a rest there's no way to salvage this game without completely remaking it.
The biggest mistake was keeping it tethered to original PSO2 which is why we're stuck with the awful mechanics and engine from that game.

We should have got a whole new type of PSO game. NGS is just literally base PSO2 V2 with the same glaring issues it had back from 2012 with slightly better graphics.

>>2260180
Shitposting has more value than that tbqhwy

>>2257882
The text can be longer.

>>2260458
It actually can't

>>2260471
Oh

>>2260214
sliders pls

>>2260496
Slider? I hardly know her!

>>2259589
What's your opinion on punch?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BICu0qTFhzY

Globab opinion is so funny. JPs are having fun in their server while the rest of you retards are crying in Global. JP wins every single time.

>>2260701
What's your opinion on punch? >>2260697

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>>2260697
Cute baby monkey.

>>2260705
ikr I think we need a baby punch cross over for ngs.

>>2260722
we already do >>2259825

>>2260724
Awww don't be mean...

I love my wife!

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>>2260722
SEGA should hire you.

>>2260701
you ever gonna get new material or are you content to rehash like Sega?

>>2260794
and what innovations have you brought to pso2g mr I complain about everything but do nothing about anything

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>>2260788
Wow you really think so?
If they did hire me this is the first emote I'll get implemented into the game.

I actually like the LQ.
The focus on 1 drill with constant waves makes it way more fun.

Fun fact. When interviewed about their inspiration for the models, an NGS dev said: "We want them to look like JAV idols with botched facial surgery. And not the good kind".

Horny...
Im so horny and in need of 30m....

I remember when people were singing praises when XBOX said they're bringing over PSO2. Then SEGA maded New Genesis to make sure the westerners couldn't enjoy it for too long.

>>2261208
>>2257468

>>2261203
What does JAV mean?

>>2261220
japanese adult video, like with hitomi tanaka

or aka asuka
or nina nishimura
or tomomi motozawa
or anri okita
or rin kajika
or julia
or aika
or uehara ai
or yuri fukada

>>2261220
Jacon, Aettuce, Vomato

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>When you check player shops now if they use a stamp that plays sounds it plays the sound as you open their shop
scared me half to death

>>2261222
>>2261223
Oh

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Guys concert and UQ soon if you need it for your quest.

>>2260284
they don't even have to salvage ngs. all they have to do is return to fully supporting base pso2. if they are so content with making people go through pso2 again but through a reboot, why not reboot pso2es and idola too? it makes no sense that everyone is getting a third of the original experience, maybe even less if you count pso2comi and the episode oracle animation. you cannot reboot the pso2s multimedia franchise through just a shitty game. do you know why chairs have three legs or more. because you need as many legs as the dimension they reside in to be stable in the XYZ axis. ngs does not even obey the laws of physics. it has already failed.
>>2261199
>I like the refed gameplay with no new classes, no new photon arts, no distinct weapon potetials or ways to play, and no appearances by npcs, in this static field set on the same map
bleugh

>>2261236
>Support base pso2
Globab opinion discarded. Just because Global failed doesn't mean JP did too. JP players are happy with NGS and that's all that matters to SEGA. Stay mad in your trash server lmfao

>>2261241
what I have learnt is that its always projection when it comes to lashing out so its amazing how you people filtered by just attacks think you belong now compared to the vets who didn't wait 8 years to play the game. ywnbj.

>>2261236
I just thought it was enjoyable and I actually could make a difference with taunt.
Anyway I'm tired so I'm going to sleep see you tomorrow my /pso2g/ friend.

>>2261247
>its always projection
>proceeds to project
at least you're consistent

Globabs getting uppity again because their server sucks and their market is in shambles lul

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>>2261107
Log into NGS so we can play together!

If i don't get 30m right this instant I'm going to explode and die and cry and explode and die

>>2261225
lol noob

>>2261309
Hmmmmmmmnnnnnnnnnnn nyo

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>>2261250
if you want a game where taunt actually makes a difference, play grand chase
>>2261252
not beating the allegations I see

>>2261236
>they don't even have to salvage ngs. all they have to do is return to fully supporting base pso2.
They can't do that because that, because NGS is considered and expansion to pso2, not a new game. By that logic they are already "supporting" base pso2 and with people want to play base, it's technically still accessible. This makes the situation even worse because the two games are joined together people can easily go play the husk of pso2 base, compare that to NGS and go, " WTF how did we get so watered down, in terms of everything?". This is why people think the answer is to "simply go back to doing base". All that will do is just make people rightfully go " why couldn't any of this new base content have been done for NGS in the first place." There's no way around it There's no sweeping it away and dismissing it. NGS HAS to be addressed and there only options are to mass demote everyone, actually get all hands on deck to finally make the game get back to where it it should have been or they just straight up EOS and live with having to count pso2, as a whole, now being considered a failure when all is said and done, regardless if all the periods of success it's had in it's life time. What ever gets done at this point by now though, it's clear either way HMZK needs to be ousted.

>>2261451
they could backport ngs improvements and pso2 would still be the better game that feels fresh every time because of the random instanced maps and successors that create true new weapon combinations. true leadership is to take the fault of your subordinates and because HMZK doesn't want to admit fault, he isn't the root cause of the problems yet at the same time is the root of all problems, because when he doesn't take responsibility, none of the team take it seriously or put any effort either. they had no problems writing idola off and pso2es and pso2 off, I don't see why ngs needs to have a special exception.

>>2261467
>they had no problems writing idola off and pso2es and pso2 off, I don't see why ngs needs to have a special exception.

Idola and es, were supplementary extensions. Side content being made with no intention of ever being used to directly influence and change the main game. NGS however is a direct expansion as well as a soft reboot, developed with the mindset of directly taking over to continue pso2. That's why it's can't be written of as just a fluke or one off, the same way Es and Idola can.

>>2261467
Also with those suggestions you had, as good as they are, they just go right back to point of people then asking "why wasn't any of this done for NGS?"

>>2261482
ngs is a tumor designed to remove 10 years of player shaped experience from pso2 and to make everything segas way because to sega "the players are always the problem". and lo and behold sega had no idea what they were doing from start to finish. it should have been buried by now as a gigantic tax writeoff.
>>2261487
nobody is going to care when ngs dies, there are a billion chinese open world games that have already embraced the japanese art style knowing that this is what players want so womp womp if ngs dies.

>>2261549
What part of "NGS is a part of pso2" are you not understanding. People will notice when NGS dies, because when NGS dies, so too does pso2 and phantasy star as a IP goes. My entire point has not been a defense of NGS in anyway, it's been solely highlight the severity of how badly they fucked up with NGS and how big a scale the damage really is. The only people who deny this reality are the naively believe "we can just keep playing the private pso2 server" until Sega makes a new game that's good". And if you're stance on the matter is " Well Sega has shown they don't care about the franchise, it should just die then.", then you should have no problem with anything I'm saying, because all I'm doing is putting perspective on how badly they fucked up with NGS .

>>2261568
>What part of "NGS is a part of pso2" are you not understanding
ngs is like omega and at the end of ep5 shiva closed the book on omega and declared it a load of rubbish. so that should just happen already.
>People will notice when NGS dies, because when NGS dies, so too does pso2
it already died when they did away with the original storywriter ryohei uno who wrote the plot of the game for over a decade and the absence of him shows. there has been nothing other than aina being a whiny brat and saying garoa sucks, like bitch we didn't even get to know him for 0.5 seconds, and from the looks of it calling him a shitty overprotective parent isn't really believable when he was the sole parental figure. and this is the heroine we are supposed to like or something. if she wanted to be arks so much, why didn't she just go to central, dumbass.
>naively believe "we can just keep playing the private pso2 server"
good, because it won't be 200GB updated over and over on shitty maint and several ngs in your face just to play pso2
>Well Sega has shown they don't care about the franchise, it should just die then.
by now its probably dead like they've ingrained ngs for too long that its damaged the reputation so badly there is probably no way they can come back from this. if they don't want to uproot ngs then it should be mercy ended already. if a service game doesn't want to keep improving there is no point in paying a premium subscription for one. pso2 was so good players just chucked fuck you money back at them despite how bad scratch ticket prices could be, to support the devs, and back then scratch tickets on discount could be hoarded and gold scratch set boxes were a thing. if they're not going to bother than why the hell is the game still up. nobody needs to be refed pso2 nostalgia if pso2 exists. its all empty gesturing.

>>2261585
So as I said you should have no problem with anything I've said, yet here you are responding as if you took issue to the things I said.

>>2261590
I actually agree with everything, including the part where the private server people seem like dumbasses because I've seen one developer member barge into the modding server and ask "how do I shoot web" which is not really faith inducing having tourists be in charge of it.

its all just very cathartic to lay it on the people who have called these doomposting and even vanned some other people for realizing all of this and now they can't defend any of it. ngs was really eye opening on how genshin like retarded defender the main game community has become and how people hate change and would rather ngs rot in perpetuity with gameplay that was completed in the beta with nothing new.

so its not just ngs that has to be uprooted. the entire community at this point has to be refreshed. because they are also part of the problem. discords impeding death presents a new opportunity. the time for the real pso3 with a new reborn community is now.

>>2261549
Nothing comes close to the character creation and customization of NGS. It dominates the custom character market by miles.

I ain't reading allat globab schizobabble. None of it makes sense and your opinions don't matter to SEGA anyway. JP is the only server that matters and Global will forever be irrelevant.

>>2261630
whats the point when the gameplay in ngs sucks and nobody stays for victory screens because the fights are hollow and the main character is poorly defined in what they do in ngs that you might as well dress them as a cameraman for aina and manon? when was the last time this game got new player voices that aren't collab to liven it up and give inspiration? that time they added 40 new ngs voices and it was just the main ngs cast doing alternate dubs? yuck.

ngs doesn't even do defined hip bones or provide muscular body outside of very choice outfits for men, its androgynous at best. face is shared between male and female unlike body sliders because sega is retarded. and slider rounding is fucked incrementing is by 2 while decrementing is by 1 due to rounding error. also the lighting in ngs is permafucked by accounting for sunlight all the time while pso2 relied on "internal lighting" for everything giving it a distinct anime feel while being 3D and now its just 3D unless you pay sega for rental premium lighting which is stupid. there is nothing more depressing than idling for a few seconds in the city ingame and getting barraged by lookbook likes because the character creator is more effort than its worth to many with how convoluted sliders affect one another that they can't be bothered and can't be faulted for not trying.

what you can do with the free place hair fringe with physics in code vein 1 was amazing and what you can instantly create in tower of fantasy is instantly perfected like "this is my character" with a little bit of fiddling even with its limited sliders and free place makeup is already good enough. thats what the original pso2 strived for and its lost completely on ngs. so no, it is not the best character creator. the dawn of automatic character creation by inputting words or pictures will be soon and ngs needs to do more to stay ahead of the pack. its long fallen behind. ngs did seem like an improvement at first, but it really is not.

>>2261615
Just how much info on the guys doing the private server do we even have really? Do they have a website or somewhere other than discord to post their updates?

>>2261678
I stopped joining UQ random groups because everyone skips the victory screen now.
I barely play so it's nice to see them at least once every 6 months.

>>2261678
Also it's hard to beat the older pso2 voices. I picked up a nice japanese one years ago and see no reason to ever change it.

>>2261585
Honestly baffling how they keep bringing up garoa as if he is somehow important
>does nothing
>dies
>hey remember him??
He should have lived for a episode so players might care a little when falz shows up and kills him, but basic writing is clearly too fucking hard for whoever they have cooking this abysmal dogshit

>>2261615
Stfu Globalcuck

>>2261710
Honestly I'm surprised they did that he had a great character design.

>>2261297
I've been logging in around midnight lately.

>open thread
>scroll past bald uncs crying about their dead game
>no catbox
>close thread

>>2261813
login now!

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>>2261906

>stealing memes from xivg now

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>>2261842

>>2262189
Im logging in right now..

>>2262193
I'm about to cook dinner but i'll login probably around 8 or 9.

>>2262207
how many hours until 8 or 9?

Greysama is a psychopathic lying piece of shit

>>2262328
what did he do give me the gossip

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>>2262217
it's 8:46 for me now
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LSOSQgFjlDQ

>>2262385
hi

>>2262328
Greysama is cute.

>>2262328
qrd

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>>2262044

>>2262888
H-hey...

Forgot to spoiler. It's never been more over. files.catbox.moe/kiyrfi.png
>>2262889
Hey...

>>2262888
>>2262890
god you're so fucking PERKY. i wanna suck those nipples more please god

>>2262888
Post full body so I can make slop of you

>>2262888
nips built for pinching and biting

>>2262888
I am a proud MILF. Machi I'd love to fuck.

>>2262888
more please wife

>>2262888
dont know why you people think machi isn't the cutest. look at her. she's a little model

>>2262896
files.catbox.moe/hjzmsd.png
Have fun.

>>2262915
post a close up vertical so I can tribute you please...

>>2262915
jesus fuck machi

>>2262915
Can I send you some

>>2262915
post butt...

>>2262915
more please

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>>2262915

>>2262963
thank machi for the original

thanks machi

>>2262970
get outta here with that lmao, thats a classic. machi is not made for that though.

>>2262973
thats not negro talk. ill show you negro talk, naym saying?

>>2262975
blint, silence.

>>2262888
finally good content

>machi posts
>everyone takes a break to fap
is machi /ourqueen/?

>>2262992
obv

There is no point in me posting my minheight anymore, is there?
I'll never compete

>>2263005
i love all minheights

>>2263005
All min-heights are olev.

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>>2263005
For me, it’s competing against

Jiggu
Karina
Kayou
Sparrow
Nia
Tok
Koishi
Stena
Gyro
Caelestis
Shiro
Nyll
Minette
Zero
Renee
Machi
Buelle
Ceobe
Skelly
Rumlatte
Reitaisai
Ellie
Talyhn
Raimu

>>2263066
I'm on this list!

>>2262328
calm down raimu

>>2262888
>>2262915
>>2262946
ok face laughably bad body and fashion

Calm down lads.

>>2263172
settle down blint

>>2263172
>>2262915
Sex sex sex

>release game outside Japan 8 years after launch
Nips are notorious for shutting down online games. How do you not be paranoid every day while playing this lmao

>>2263189
What is there to be paranoid about, worst case we are freed early from this prison?

>>2263189
Dude NGS has been out for 5 years already.

>>2263194
Yeah and it'll shut down any day now.

>>2263197
You've been crying EoS for 5 years because you're too weak to quit and let go.

>>2263194
Pso2 has been out for like 14 years. The games far past that anon's expected EOS life span so clearly somehow there's an interest in keeping it alive, the problem now is though what they are even doing to keep it alive, which has people baffled.

>dead for 12 hours
>1 random uggo posts their melted plastic doll
>50 jeet posts follow
Seems forced.

>>2263189
I think at this point all of us casually/barely play so if it were to shut down we barely play to begin with so nothing is lost.

>>2263212
>Seems forced.
Because it is. /Pso2g/ has been completely replaced and now skin walked by, if I had to guess, the private server grifters, forcing this place to be as unappealing as imaginably possible, believing that this will help driven NGS closer to EOS. Before NGS this place still had people calling people's chars uggos, and drama like that, however it didn't take up literally 99% of all these threads like it does now. And then considering how actual discussion of the game is met with the most the most utter contempt. Like we can call the game shit, we can talk about other games are so much better but we can not have any genuine discussions about the main game the general is even about. People who do so are obsessed weirdos who can't let go. This filters out pretty much anyone who actually plays or is interested in seeing the sad state of the game, and then basically just leaves them here to spam the same gooner type post and the same incessant manufacturers clique dramas over and over until the cost is clear then they basically monitor and makes sure this place stays dead for good.

>>2263290
What's your opinion on myrient shutting down next month?

>>2263304
Indifferent, as long as people shut up about the alternatives, emulation won't be dead completely is my take away, but do need to read up more on the details with myrient

>>2263189
>nips
Nah, that's mostly Bandai Namco

>>2263336
Thoughts on Marathon?

>>2263384
Thoughts on that pso2 private server?

>>2262915
>>2262946
*sips McCunny cafe*
Nigger this games been out for 5 years and this is the best you can do lol

>>2263290
>words words words
ai post

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>>2263392
Never heard of it

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No hag enjoyers???

>>2263403
post ass

As you can see, because a form of actual discussion was attempted to be made, it's now time for the thread to be flooded with more gooning and drama, as any further attempts to continue discourse will now be label as "AI posts" like shown here>>2263397

unc crashing out fr

More importantly, how do you all feel about collars, leashes and choking in PSO2:NGS? Asking for a friend.

>>2263403
This is what I'm talking about!

I’m just a simple minheight anal queen…

>>2263066
me on the left

Also note how eager they are to brush aside the "crashing out unc" instead doing what they should be doing if this was a thread with organic responders, that being calling said unc a schizo retard with in asinine theory. And then from there, ask yourself, "What is suppose to be the genuine stance this thread is suppose to have about the game? Is this place suppose to be in favor of the game? If that's the case you'd think there'd be more people calling unc anon a retard who's stirring up shit for a game he doesn't even like nor even play, yeah? But if the place is suppose to be hating the state of the game, know there's not shit to talk about so all it's good to do here now is just shitpost, then why not have fun and shitpost with the schizo take? What's the issue in just rolling along with that bullshit?

ai post

>>2263403
uggo

For me, it's darkerbait minheights with fat butts

>>2263491
Name 5

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>>2263484
How and why would AI posts be a problem here? Is anybody here suppose to be taken as if they have some legit credibility. Are we really concerned about spam bots being in play? In this thread of literally nothing being talked about? Bruh that's just crazy.

>>2263450
I love collared minheights desu

>>2263529
Jiggu
Machi
Koishi
Runali
Ress

>>2263491
That’s me!

Should I change to a midheight

>>2263585
Yes. The world would be a better place if everyone were midheights with big plump life and hometown.

>>2263585
Yes, the minheights are getting cocky again

>>2263585
No, change to a fat assed, fat saggy breasts minheight instead.

>>2263585
Maxheight, muscular, massive tits and thighs

>>2263593
>>2263615
I’m going with these suggestions and I’m going to be the sluttiest one

I wish jp jack would post more of that ilulu cosplay, shit made me diamonds

>>2263631
kys blint

>>2263450
my minheight loves all of those
ideally while plugged...

>>2263534
Should get two AI and have them have a conversation with each other about the game and post it ITT. It'll be better than the garbage this thread gets.

>>2263649
Do you like T1s?

>>2263652
It would also pass of as more natural than what ever posts go on here now.

Nigga's brain is so fried he prefers chatgpt over real people LMAO

>>2263643
I'm sluttier.

>>2263653
yeah !

I just like plapping taken minheights.

>>2263660
When the real people can't even talk about the game at all neither a out how much they enjoy the game or can't even shitpost and tear the game apart for being utter shit, chatgpt is totally a a welcomed welcomed improvement.

The gooning to drown the thread is starting to ramp back up again btw.

>>2263675
Don’t like it? You know what to do

>>2263541
at least one of those is midheight kys fag

>>2263681
Talk about the game right?

>>2263683
they're all minheights althoughkirkenuenlybeit

>>2263631
genuinely confuses me how anyone can like that shit
if you wanna fuck a kitchen appliance just go to ikea?
do you jerk off to the samsung smart home catalogue?

>>2263702
as opposed to literal children

>>2260161
what am i supposed to do lol

>>2263738
post big nipple booba

>>2263748
Or you and him could just talk about the game

>>2259825
LMFAOOOOOOOO AHAHAHAHA

who's gonna repost the machi catbox... i was out of town...

>>2263753
boring

>Quck! We need another Machi drop someone is still demanding an actual game discussion

This is a sex game, deal with it

>anon can’t come up with anything about the game to talk about
>tries to force others to
lmfao

>>2263753
>>2263770
Are you lost? Go back to the modcord, fleet or whatever cave you came from lol

Finally addressing the "crashing out unc", now? Better late than never I suppose.

>>2263770
ok then, start talking about the game anon

>quck

>>2263783
oh wait, there's nothing to talk about aside from the dress up part

qrd nym

>>2263790
You ain't even talking about that, this entirety has mentioned a single recent outfit or accessory by name or how absurdly overpriced, overused etc etc. Barely any fashion is being posted despite all the gooning and for how as you just said the game is only good for dress-up, literally no dress up is actually being discussed.

>>2263791
I luv burd

>>2263748
https://litter.catbox.moe/3sxx2l4j66u496n5.png
catbox is down again (not surprising) so litter will have to do. you have 3 days.

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>you HAVE to discuss this shitty game with me stop posting things I personally don't like
is unc ok

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Hey I just got home

>>2263845
wtf? is this real?

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>Talking about the shitty game people in this thread (hate but still play even now/genuinely enjoy and play alot.) Isn't fun and considered no fun allowed.

t. /pso2g/

>>2263852
Yeah it is

my balls are full I need a good catbox to tribute

The more this retarded nigger posts, the more I realize why sega abandoned SEA pso2 without a word

>>2263867
What's this issue anon? Is blatant shitposting not allowed even though that all that ever goes on here, because the game is in such a shit state all there's just left is to just shit post?

>>2263871
No, what's wrong is seaniggers are mentally ill, you still, after years of this song and dance, blame players for the decisions of multi-billion dollar corporations, you're basically a broken toy that my government forgot about