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>>1845510
Instead of horse races, you raise stats to fight HSR battles

>no global release
RIP

>no globo release
good
>studiobside
grim

>>1845512
There's no four niggas in a row? Uh?

>>1845510
What? It's an Umamusume clone? I was hoping it's AT LEAST a Shart Rail clone.

>>1845588
Not really. Gameplay is pretty much turn based. But there's a unit training aspect to the game. Kinda like Fire Emblem Three Houses but turn based instead of SRPG.

>>1845588
It's both and a bit more.
A terrible chimera that tried to combine several games.

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>>1845510
Wait a minute, this is by that same company that made CounterSide isn't it? Ain't touching another piece of their shit ever again after how much they fucked up with CS.

>>1845578
Yeah it's 3 niggas in a row, 2 of which you bring with your trainee, riveting gameplay right here

>>1845510
>>1845588
Gameplay:
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2575832035?t=03h13m09s

That sounds like a good idea for a roguelike, but I imagine this is just a normal game.

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>>1845512
>Fighting Uma
Hey that could be co-
>HSR battles
Fucking 0/10
If they wanted to make uma but fighting they should be making them actually fight like what Virtual Circle's trying to do
https://youtu.be/lgfx_0c8874?si=Y4xxqdR8p89c41BF

>>1846721
Star savior is not comparable to Uma in general. Also it's clearly trying to be optimized for mobile like HSR since it wants to take a chunk in HSR's jp sales (it wont obviously).

>>1845510
I'd try it if it wasn't PVP slop

>>1846721
>Virtual circles
Is this ML/haremge

>>1846952
All I know is apparently every character is based off some actual chink vtuber. Obviously means no men because>>>male vtubers. Think you can also infer how far it'll go off of that
I'm really hoping someone else steals the concept and uses it with OCs

>>1846952
MC was referred as he in one of the teaser but who knows

>>1845532
This, i'm expecting shitty balance because they prioritise pvp and neglecting pve like they do on counterside

>>1848863
>shitty balance between PVP and PVE
>constantly powercreep OP characters follow with nerf
>shitty gear system
>PVP focus endgame while PVE is just more mindless gear grinding so you can PVP harder
>now throw in Uma training loops to min max your characters

You don't need to samefag, shitposter bro. No one knows or care about bside or some shit. They'll still try that game regardless.

really now who in their right mind would even take pvp in non competitive online games seriously when they all suck ass

>>1845510
I liked CS story so I will be giving this a try.

>>1849302
It even has the Administrator, so it's connected to Counterside.

>>1849287
Thankfully It's not that heavy
https://youtu.be/-ueOO8LrZZo
This game focused on story and interaction between characters(as they should). Though sadly this game turn based gameplay is just bad.

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>>1846721
Thanks for sharing, i missed the news about this.

>>1852594
You're just projecting, retard.
I never said that turn-based gameplay is bad. I just said that this one in particular is bad. Even Final Fantasy 1 turn-based gameplay is better than this.

>>1852893
>Real games have better gameplay
Yeah no shit. How retards never fail to bitch at games thats not even well regarded for pure gameplay reasons is beyond me. And they are actually better having auto mode for it than none at all.

>It's anti-gacha shitposter

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none of the mobile waifu training slop can ever compete with the GOAT

>>1845510
This shit is like two years too late, nobody is going to dump their main gacha games to play it.

>No simultaneous release

KWAB, trying to go for 0/2 but from the starting gate this time.

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>>1853017
I compared it with HSR, the mediocre turn based and this game is lower.
Now, show me your CBT invitation before you talk about something that you haven't experience yet.

>>1853042
>No CBT invitation
Yeah, you know nothing. Here's your last (you).

Does this give out any kind of exclusive rewards for people that played the beta, I always hate when they do that shit

>>1853034
The whole generic gang is here!

>>1867340
Not any more generic than uma musume and with actual gameplay so I am willing to give it a try. Character designs are one of the most easy things to improve post launch

>>1845512
Sounds like it'll be just like CZN, which is HSR with an extra layer of RNG grind.

>>1886502
>no global release date
I wonder why…

>>1886537
We getting dubs?

>>1886537
Someone should tell their marketing team what a waste of resources that is.

>>1886614
that’s retarded. just release the game and add it in an update later.

>>1886614
Got link of the announcement?

>>1886628
Eh, they troll all the time so i'll take it with a grain of salt.
There'll be livestream soon so we might get some info

>>1886628
You shouldn't say "official" then. The likely reason is they're accommodating other languages than English, and that's the reason why it's taking so long. I just hope it releases within this year.

news on global launch and pre-registration on next week’s stream. lowering pull cost is nice, would be funny if stella sora shitstorm was what made them lower it.

>>1887412
>stella sora
>He fell for the manufactured dramabait from obvious free2poors
Its got enough freebies to pull pities as much as the average gacha if youre not an impulsefag

>>1887414
i didn’t had a problem with the gacha in stella sora, stopped playing because there wasn’t enough to do besides spam ascension and hoping rng is on my side.

>>1887414
>Its got enough freebies to pull pities as much as the average gacha
Lol. Lmao even. Even Genshin is more generous than SS.

>>1887435
Thats an over exaggeration right? Genshit doesnt even have any notable freebies, let alone currency that lets you respect your time

>>1887412
>stella sora
People wouldn't be mad if it's the intended amount.

I simply won't trust anyone who claim x gacha is generous until the honeymoon phase is over and you stop getting frontload rewards from campaign and level up bonus. That's when the real game begins.

when is this up hyungskis?

>>1887435
Genshin only works because USUALLY it's one banner per 6 weeks. Even then it's extremely aggressive at anti shill, where if you don't have dev intended stuff you will really fucking suffer. So 60 pulls per patch ain't enough to get you everything regardless.

Credit where credit is due: Stella Sora's Earth team (0 limited chars) can deal with anything.. though it might've not been intended. But game is young. Genshin wasn't this shit early on either.

If Stella Sora keeps a 3 weeks per banner schedule, around 60 pulls/month is the bare mininum.

i thought this is Uma ripoff but its actually HSR?

>>1887528
it's hsr combat with uma progression system

>>1886614
They delayed the fucking game and essentially killed its chance to be relevant in the west trying to...appeal to the west? What the fuck?

>>1887755
Bside isn't known for being smart. Now watch them cut the dub support after 6 months.

>>1887515
we’ll find out next week

>can't find it on third-party app stores
Eh?

>>1887755
They've run two maintenances during the peak day one JP and KR hours, currently a 3 hour maintenance. Bside shooting themselves in the foot once again.
>>1888255
I managed to get find it on taptap, but the game doesn't let you in unless it's downloaded from google play.

>>1888385
Are you using phone? What kind of phone are you using? Because you need to get ready for the most unoptimized game experience you'll ever get.
Another note, there's a bug with character Trish where she'll be automatically converted to shard when you get her in gacha.

>>1849311
Grim I don't want to play counter side again just to understand the story. Honkai keep throwing dumb references of their old game as well instead of being something on their own.

>>1887497
The important thing is not to have that MANY limited characters. Something Counter:Side is known from.

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>https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.studiobside.starMain
the account I made with a fake japanese address to save money on top-ups made google believe I'm japanese kek

So I actually wonder what they'll do for global considering everywhere else got it today. Releasing it like within a month of Asia launch sounds dumb, are they just gonna hyper accelerate for a month to get global caught up? On the flip side I don't think anyone will really care about the game anymore if it releases into next year, unless it ends up being really good or something.

>>1889082
They will make it catch up in a few months. It's no biggie. Also Global releasing later is not a dealbreaker as you might think since it's another Big Event that people will look up to that they can capitalize on and promote the game again for more visibility.
Specially since they will likely be sponsoring a bunch of big name Vtubers and stuff and ride on the big Umamusume community that grew on the west.

>>1889082
>are they just gonna hyper accelerate for a month to get global caught up?
100% they'll do that. I think they'll release it in January 2026 at most.
>On the flip side I don't think anyone will really care about the game anymore if it releases into next year unless it ends up being really good or something.
Nah. This is just plain wrong. The thing about the late release date is that they’re most likely to speed up the late server time and risk getting them shafted.

40 bucks for a ten pull is yikes

>>1889641
Yeah, it’s sitting at a 2.0 on app store and complaints are about how expensive pulls are, requiring dupes to break level cap, too much loading, unnecessary special effects when interacting with menus that lags the game, and nothing special about gameplay.

>>1889648
You need dupes to unlock the Live 2D which is fucking ridiculous.

so this is DOA?

>>1890427
Uninformed bro...
>>1890447
So true, xis

Notice Regarding Future Improvement Plans for Star Savior
Dear Captains, thank you for always playing SS
This is Ryu Geumtae, Executive Producer of Star Savior.
First of all, regardless of the reason, I would like to deeply apologize as the person in charge of this project for failing to deliver sufficient enjoyment and satisfaction to you.
As mentioned in our previous apology notice, the entire development team and I are currently making large-scale improvements across the entire game based on feedback received from our Captains.
Although improvement efforts will continue, I would like to share the currently confirmed changes as early as possible through this developer note.
1. Increase in Bonus for Sacred Light Stone Products
The amount of Sacred Light Stones in paid bundles was calculated based on standard summons and new character pick-up packs planned for future updates.
However, excessively high rates were applied during the adjustment process, resulting in prices that felt overpriced and did not meet expectations.
We take full responsibility and will revise the values as follows:
● Current: Highest-tier pack 4,800 + 1,300 = 6,100 Stones
● After Change: Highest-tier pack 4,800 + 2,800 = 7,600 Stones
Lower-priced packs will also receive increased bonus amounts.
Players who have already purchased these packs will receive the difference in Stones.
Further details will be announced separately.
2. Changes to Arcpoints & Extra Moment Acquisition
Ark Points and Extra Moments were designed to convey the appeal of each Liberator through special high-quality interactions.
However, due to high difficulty, it has instead led to disappointment.
To correct this mistake, acquisition conditions will change as follows:
● Before:
○ Unlock viewing/lobby placement after 3 limit breaks of the same Savior
● After:
○ Viewing unlocked at Affinity Lv. 10
○ Lobby placement remains 3 limit breaks
Unlocked content will be viewable anytime from a dedicated menu.

>>1890453
3. Lobby Placement for Main Story & Journey Illustrations
Players have requested the ability to collect and display story illustrations.
We apologize for not providing this sooner.
We will enable lobby placement for illustrations based on story completion and character affinity.
4. Account Reset Policy Changes
Previously, account resets were restricted for server management and anti-abuse reasons.
However, this caused major inconvenience.
Therefore:
● Reset time reduced:
~14 days ~5 minutes
5. Nickname Policy Changes
Nicknames were required to be unique due to global PvP design, but this reduced player freedom and increased reroll friction.
Changes:
● Nickname changes will use a Nickname Change Ticket
● Stones previously spent on name changes will be fully refunded
● All accounts receive one free ticket
● Duplicate nicknames allowed
6. Tutorial Policy Changes
The current tutorial is too long and affects pacing.
Changes:
● Simplified structure
● Skip feature available after conditions are met
7. Early Game Progression Redesign
Focus shifted too much toward idle mechanics instead of story and characters.
To restore narrative immersion:
● Guide players to Main Story EP0 after Journey tutorial
● Unlock Operations after EP1
● Relax story unlock conditions
● Add prompts to encourage story viewing
● Provide natural introduction to Journey content on first play
8. Reduced Requirements for Liberator Icons
Unlock conditions remain too strict even after earlier adjustments.
Changes:
● Before: Affinity Lv. 30
● After: Affinity Lv. 5
All players will also receive materials required to reach Affinity Lv. 30.
9. Incorrect Material Costs for R-Rank Arcana
We confirmed incorrect upgrade costs for Moonlight Water and Gold.
Fixes:
● Correct required values
● Refund excess materials spent

>>1890454
10. Battle Experience Improvements
Players feel combat lacks strategic depth.
Planned adjustments:
● Nova Burst reduced cooldown + increased damage
● Reduce excessive cooldowns for certain liberators
● Various new mechanics to increase strategy
● Rework buffs/debuffs
● Strengthen Break Skills (reduced cooldown, stronger gimmicks, PvE-exclusive effects)
More details will be provided in patch notes.
11. Shortcut Menu Improvements
Menu layout is confusing and will be reorganized for better usability in an upcoming update.
[Implementation Schedule]
Changes will be applied starting this week through patch updates.
New feature additions may take longer, and updates become difficult mid-December, but we aim to apply all changes by January.
This is not the final iteration—we will continue improvements based on your feedback.
Thank you for continuing to support Star Saver despite the inconvenience.
Ryu Geumtae
Executive Producer, Star Savior

Maybe it's a good thing global is releasing later than jp/kr.

>>1890460
Yeah, so we now know to never play this shit and ignore any and all news about it, and also to avoid anything done by this studio.

>>1890453
>Lobby placement remains 3 limit breaks
So you still have to mega whale to be able to put the character you like in the lobby screen, what a shit show. Imagine saving currency to roll a character you were looking forward to, spending 200 rolls, and not being able to set it as a secretary. Is there even another gacha that does this?
>>1890455
>Battle Experience Improvements
So instead of actually making the gameplay feel good, they instead buffed every character to make the gameplay feel easy instead. Not only that, they introduced "PvE-exclusive effects", so their focus is still going to be PvP, as expected of a KR dev.

Imagine actually playing this shit for more than a couple of days and being hopeful that the dev will make the game good, despite how counterside turned out.

>>1890677
Counterside wasn't your first hint?

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>>1890677
After seeing firsthand how they fucked up Cside I expected nothing and was still disappointed.

>>1890814
>Copied from popular games, dumbed down everything, added more paywall with worse gacha rate
>flopped.
As expected of Bside.

Now the cartel will start killing Bside employees for the loans they've taken for SS.

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>>1845604
Same. Fuck them for ruining a game I actually loved.

>>1887478
Stella Sora isn't generous but it's way better than Genshin if you are f2p, I'm f2p, I have every limited character so far and I still have 55k gems, the rate for SSR characters is way higher in SS and there's a Spark at 120 that doesn't count towards the 100% limited character pity at 160.

>>1891129
it's already miles better than any hoyoslop by virtue of not taking much time to invest into. currency economy doesnt really bring in the full picture of how shitty the game actually is

>trusting bside
Come on now. How many times did you guys need to learn this lesson?

>>1891288
i just want a decent looking harem game that isnt flopping and thriving and this game blew it away, just how hard is that to ask

>>1891290
Apparently asking them to give up chasing the female audience causes devs to think they can charge us double. And also cut corners on game design.

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>No Naielle expy
DOA

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>>1891082
>>1891082
I honestly wanted to believe that they could learn their lesson after they fired the mongoloid PD that fucked up the Origin update but it seems everyone in that company suffers from terminal retardation. A shame, the game had top of the line characters even to this day

>>1891388
>fired the mongoloid PD that fucked up the Origin update
Seeing how SS turned out, 99% chance he got "honorable demotion" and was put in charge of SS.

>>1891403
>SS
Damn, I am going to keep messing up between this and Stella Sora.

SSR rate from 2.5% to 4%
Rateup now 2% instead of 1%

and a bunch of other stuff announced. They also made rerolling basically instant

>>1891499
Too late lmao

>>1891499
Definitely much better but isn't the guaranteed pity at 200 pulls? That's still way too high. A guaranteed copy at 100 rolls should be the bare minimum for a game demanding dupes.

>>1891616
Acquisition is fine but the big difference are skills being dupe locked while Nikke doesn't.

Wasn't there supposed to be some stream with global launch info? What happened to that?

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>>1892022
>march
global people will forget about this because of endfield.

>>1892023
>forget
Most won't even be aware of its existence, Bside has no money for marketing.

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Koreans are on board with the new changes now.
It's going to end up being a case of KR and JP being the beta test for global as usual.

Still not on board with the lack of voice acting when other titles with a lower budget do have them. Feels like a sign of cheapening out a product

>>1892023
No one cares for shitnights or shitfield(rebooted development: The game)

>>1892214
Are gooks really alright with having to pull dupes for a fucking lobby scene? I thought it was the nips that had bottom of the barrel standards

>>1892496
people were fine with it in nikke, not surprising they’ll be okay with it in star savior

>>1892511
i haven’t played it in a year and a half, but i remember dupes unlocking burst animation for lobby screens

>>1892496
Do you live in some alternate reality where Korean isn't the home of p2w shit mechanics?

>>1892522
I live in the reality where the previous game made by these devs tried none of that garbage, not even the original Origin update tried to be this scummy

https://x.com/StarSavior_EN/status/1991060961617457375
Was this global announcement stream the KR or JP stream earlier, or will there be a dedicated stream for us. If not then holy fuck this company sucks at marketing.

>>1892590
They seem to assume that anyone who even has a single lick of interest in this game would already follow all their KR/JP twitter and youtube accounts, so no need to spend extra money for marketing.

Didn't start on day one because I (mistakenly) hoped that the global release date would not be far off.
But they revealed that global launch is 3-4 months from now.
Is it too late to start now?
also, I find it a bit weird that they not only don't do simultaneous release for KR/JP server and Global server in the big 2025 but also did not announce the release date on global account

>>1892867
The first few days were a massive disaster with bugs, emergency maint, shitty rate, no reroll and so on. If anything it's better to start now after they fixed most of the problem above.

>>1892867
Yes. It's too late. You missed one SSR selector(including cosmic) if you start it now.

>>1892867
Global is an afterthought, the revenue of the west is usually 25% of the total (with JP/KR/CN being a distribution of 20 to 30% each). Its clear they aren't confident that the game is going to do well in the west, or they don't think its going to be worth the investment, better to put all their efforts on the local version and when they have some extra time to spare after stabilizing they can do global.

>>1893031
That was because the whole publisher and server change from Nexon to Bside then global with JP server. Any game went through that shit will never recover.

do we know Omega's rarity? one of the few units from this kusoge that caught my eye

>>1892867
>release 3-4 months from now
>has to compete with Kaleidorider
Those fucking morons..

A heterosexual man with functioning brain would simply play both.

>>1894577
Source for that Kaleidorider release date, tranny?

Why is there no global release yet? Do I really have to wait another year for this?

>>1894950
The devs don't want your retarded ass money, you can't even do a google search

>>1895174
Kek. He doesn't even read this thread.

Is the game fixed yet? Should I just wait 3 months for global? Will they even address the problems with JP for the new server? I have no idea about this company

Does the pity points in the limited banners carry over like in Nikke?

>>1895439
I think the main problems are gameplay and optimization. Honestly I'm not expecting much from Korean for optimization issue and it's really hard to make something from broken parts than just create new thing altogether, so I don't think the gameplay can be "good" either. At least they acknowledge it though. ZZZ devs still won't acknowledge that they're making a boring button mashing game.
>>1895454
Yes. But be careful about Cosmic characters. They're usually work with different rules.

>>1895501
>Yes. But be careful about Cosmic characters. They're usually work with different rules.
What do you mean? If the banner is a cosmic character then the pity wouldn't carry over? So I guess it's safe for me not to use the pity I got in the bunny girl banners?

>>1895501
>Mihoyo
>ever admit they are doing something wrong.
WWIII would happen before that.

>>1895504
I think you know better than me about this. How does Nikke pilgrim banner works? Is normal banner pity can be used in pilgrim banner? Star Savior copy Nikke banner system to a T. So it should be the same. Though I think you should still only use your gacha currency in Cosmic banner.

>>1895501
I already like the bits of the game I see from clips, I just didn't start immediately because apparently it was Day 1 WuWa/ToF level unplayable, which gets even worse since I'm on Android. As long as it's
>HSR but all women
I'm sold. So, is it?

>>1895514
Yeah I thought it was similar to NIkke but I can't be too sure. If it's exactly like Nikke then I guess I'm safe. Thanks bro.

>>1895522
>So, is it?
Sadly, nope. It's worse. They've got great animation, but sadly the battle system sucks. The only limitation we have is cooldown and it's too fucking long. So you'll always want to use your Ulti then Skill, then forced to use Normal attack for at least 3 turns(non maxed skill will forced you to use it for 5 turns instead). They've acknowledge it and said that they will fix it, but I doubt it. On the other hand, I think the story and journey story is better.
TLDR; if you don't mind auto battler tier gameplay, then it's a good game.
>>1895528
Ur welcome. Unfortunately(or fortunately for us) they're flopping and I don't think they'll do another Korean moment. So I expect they won't stray from Nikke gacha system.

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https://x.com/StarSavior_JP/status/1995442478988611591
I think they'll pick the "generous and trust" route from now on. I just hope that they don't shaft Global, because it'll 100% make them dead in Global. Oh and also I hope that they'll fix every problem(app optimization and gameplay related) before releasing Global server, so that we'll be glad that this game release late so that we don't need to "beta test" it.

>>1895549
So they were able to reach google play rank 1 after all. That's surprising after all the fuckups at launch.

>>1895550
Every game, even slop, gets to rank 1 during their first month, its nothing special.
>>1895549
They are probably going to "fix" the currency problems, but theres no way they fix the gameplay, its just a bunch of different systems copied from other games thrown together without any cohesion or thought put into why they work

How many lolis?

Is this game in the gacha pvp memechart?

>>1895765
No one has shitposted about it yet so I guess it's not included there for now.

>>1895765
Maybe when it gets global server, this game doesn't generate enough shitposts and drama to catch their attention.

Using konpeito (as the nips call it) as a way to time-gate progression is a bit annoying since you get so little of them compared to other upgrading resources
Most features are from other (mostly) gook games so if you have played them before, it's pretty easy to figure it out
Not that I blame them of course. while some retards might say it's plagiarism, I think it's better that it's somewhat similar to other popular games since it helps the players adapt to the game faster rather than learning everything from zero.
It's like how most gacha have similar UI placements (though I don't know if it's fair to compare UI to gameplay)
I still think adding mini-uma gameplay is an... "interesting" choice

>>1895919
Copied other games? Everyone do that nowadays so I don't think it's the real issue here. But they simplified everything so they can cram as many different systems as possible and the game ended up just being an uninspired patchwork of various popular games in the market. This is why people say the gameplay is just boring busywork with nothing stands out.

>>1895929
>they simplified everything so they can cram as many different systems as possible
yeah, I see it now that you said it.
It tried to be too many things that it just end up feeling overwhelming
I think the game would've been more enjoyable if they took out mini-uma
I really don't get why it's there
gear substats autism is here too but I suppose it's expected from a gook gacha

>>1895934
I am sure the uma training system was something that got added later during the game development, since the early PVs for the game didn't show any glimpse of it. At first it was probably planned to be another HSR with mix gender cast (there was a twink in the reveal PVs) but when the game was officially named Star Savior they removed that guy and showed the training system as part of the new gameplay system, they even proudly claimed that "we also have umamusume/gakumas at home" in the interview, so yeah some dumbfuck greenlit that idea and changed the game direction during its development.

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>>1895935
That shota(?) was turned into Bell, I think.
It was a good decision imho.
Should've stayed an HSR clone, though

>>1895963
>Bside
>reputation
I can see their ultimate PVPslop endgame with constant powercreep and hours you have to spend in the training sim every time they drop a new one to perfect their stats. God bless if they even remember to update PVE content.

>>1895986
>God bless if they even remember to update PVE content.
that was the best part of the apology stream, they said there were going to "give special pve buffs to make progression faster", meaning they design units with pvp in mind and pve is an afterthought if that
I can't believe anyone would be retarded enough to be exited for the global version

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>>1895765
what the other 2 Anons said but basically no one cares about the game enough in the West to even want to memepost it
Still waiting for global tho, played a week of JP but can't get into it knowing I'll restart

>>1896201
Why do you want trogdolytes to notice this game? I don't want any HSR faggots to know that this game even exists.

>>1897030
>Why do you want trogdolytes to notice this game?
I don't. I was just answering the other Anon as to why this isn't on the memechart

>>1897030
it's not even known in its own genre, that says much about how much people care about the game

>>1897474
Consider Rememento, which is another HSR/Epic 7 clone, already announced soft EOS, I doubt this game is going fare better. Dragging out Global release is going to push their shit in even further.

arca whale gets a 6k usd refund:
https://arca.live/b/starsavior/155724045
KR on mass refund mode.

JP cord feedback (translated):
Dear Management Team Member,

Today, Brown Dust 2 and Epic Seven announced their upcoming update plans. Both plans clearly address the player's perspective, including creating new gameplay, reducing player workloads, and increasing benefits.

This contrasts sharply with the hollow, empty "update plan" announced by your company's producer a few days ago.

Whether a game is loved by players depends, first, on understanding its strengths and making the most of them. Second, on providing good "service" to players, identifying their pain points, and building a foundation for long-term management.

Your management team has not achieved even one of these two fundamentals.

Regarding your company's strengths:
Do you think that casually assembling various game systems is a "strength"? No. You yourself should know this.

>>1897648
Currently, your only strength is your art (character design). That's why they're clinging so desperately to the most critical aspect from players: "Home Anime can only be unlocked through a complete breakthrough." They're afraid that changing it would mean they'd no longer be able to make money.

From start to finish, you've never once considered how to improve the game, create new strengths, or extend its usefulness. All I can sense is your mindset: "Make as much money as possible now, while the novelty is still fresh in players' minds, and then fade away quickly."

Regarding player complaints (pain points),
You're well aware of this, too. How many streamers and video creators have pointed out that your training system and the RTA mode are starkly inconsistent?

Why is it that character passive skills can only be strengthened by randomly selecting multiple characters?
This is the biggest contradiction in a game that includes an RTA mode. You're well aware of it, too. Similarly, I'm aware that your gameplay sucks, and understand that your only way to make a profit is by relying on pay-to-win elements like this.

Let's compare them.
Compared to Epic Seven, your equipment system and RTA balance are crap.

Compared to Uma Musume, your training system is extremely stale and boring.

Compared to Nikke and Brown Dust 2, your employee benefits are a world apart.

While character design is your only strength, it's not unique enough to overwhelm your competitors.

>>1897651
You rip off everything and make everything even more boring. I've played all of these games and paid for each one. However, the pressure to pay for them all combined doesn't compare to this one game.

Now, to the core issue. Why on earth should I play Star Savior?
Furthermore, is there any other game at this point that offers four featured summons (UP gacha) right after launching service and only distributes a small number of summon tickets? Do you think that distributing a few character fragments amounts to "giving a character as a gift"?
Let me be frank with you. From the start, your company never gave the slightest thought to making a good game or achieving stable profits over the long term. You simply created a product haphazardly, "copied" systems that other companies were making money from, crammed everything into one, and aimed to make a quick buck during the temporary frenzy at the start of service, without caring what happened to the game after that - this is your company's true objective.
So, if you continue to remain silent, make excuses, and gloss over all your "improvements" with minor details that are irrelevant to the core mechanics, namely:
Lowering the hurdle for unlocking home anime
Abolishing the passive skill unlock system that relies on character breakthroughs, or changing it to an easier method
Optimizing the "Uma Musume"-style training and support card system, which have been endlessly criticized by players
-- Without making any changes to these, you'll just keep as many players as possible hooked for the short term with small perks, squeeze as much out of them as quickly as possible, and then fade from player memory like Counter: Side. If you truly want this game to be a success, first optimize the game's core mechanics in a way that alleviates the pain points that players are pointing out.
Otherwise, you'll soon be reduced to a stray dog on the side of the road.

>>1897652
I mean praising Nikke while also complaining that you need to MLB to get the lobby screen in Star Savior is peak hypocrisy since Nikke does the same thing. Kek

>>1897648
wonder what they devs are gonna do
I doubt it's easy to completely overhaul the gameplay especially when it's after launch and they only managed to fix a couple of problems
Did they really think that gluing together features that aren't compatible with each other while also downgrading them will somehow make the game work?

>>1897768
Games with no solid direction and just rely on feature bloat, trying to do many things at once are doomed to fail. Doesn't help that they seem to think they can survive in the current market with just a handful of whales grinding PVP like meth addicts in the same way as CS.
Either they take a bold move and shutdown the game to overhaul it or just accept its fate and continue to milk those suckers who still stick to the game for all it's worth.

>>1897801
>shutdown the game to overhaul it
the global release is around march next year so if they're quick about it, they could announce a shutdown after the current ended to remove and improve features and re-release it alongside the global server
can't say much about other features but the uma training shit needs to go
it's a waste to throw away the animations and CGs but it has to go
arcana can be reworked into equipment like FGO's craft essence instead
I hate the gear substats autism too but I doubt they will throw that one away so it is what it is

>>1897812
This is by far one of the most moronic take I've read. Journey is literally their most likeable feature. You should just shut your mouth and spare the world from hearing your retarded take.

The retard here really like to spout some shit. 70% reason why this game failed is because optimization and these monkeys don't even say that.

>>1897826
>Journey is literally their most likeable feature
says nobody ever

>>1897828
I had a bad launch because the rerollers can't reroll. Literally 90% of the 1* reviews in google back during the first days was they can't reroll. They loosened the reroll restriction and increased the SSR rates but they still lost a lot of hype during the first week.

>>1897878
Never understood that mentality.

>>1897831
If you're retarded and ignorance, then yeah.
>>1897878
That's still not the core issue. If it's true, then all hoyoverse games will be dead by now.
The main issue is still optimization. MH Wilds and CP2077 got hit by this problem and flopped. To make matter worse, they can't release the steam/pc version simultaneously, so everyone(including the one with gaming phone) will still feel the lag.
The second most important issues is gameplay. The gameplay is just boring and braindead. Now, it won't be that big of a problem because the skill animation is good and you can leave it on auto. But because the stupid optimization, you can't even enjoy it.
Because of these problems, people become critical and nitpick everything.

>>1897886
It's the most basic QOL you can give new players. Everyone knows people are going to be rerolling, it's not some industry secret.

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>>1897960
It's just retardation. Open the game and stick with what you got. There's no need to foster poorfag mentality.

What makes me wonder is that why nobody complained this much during cbt

>>1898197
You can believe whatever you want little bro, but the fact of the mater is that rerolling is a HUGE part of the fun asian players and players simply aren't going to stick with the game if it doesn't let them have their fun (rerolling until they get the unit they want)

>>1898209
Everyone was coping by claiming "they are going to adjust it for release!", at the time people thought the game could be fixed simply by moving some numbers around.
This isn't uncommon for betas, OP stuff and glitches are sometimes found months after release.

I actually like the game so it's too bad that only JP can help them since they're not as vindictive. At this point KR is actively trying to get it to shut down for some reason and there's no way this game will amount to much in Global.

I'll still try it if it ever comes to global on PC

Western MLbros will save this game

>>1898641
>it's too bad that only JP can help them since they're not as vindictive.
Sadly they earn much more from KR and that's saying much(they're flopping in JP)
>At this point KR is actively trying to get it to shut down for some reason
I agree about this. Though on the other hand, we got many freebies and improvement because of this reason.
I've said it and I'll say it again that the major problem of this game is with their optimization, but KR become too critical and nitpick everything.
>there's no way this game will amount to much in Global.
With how much they made, I don't think global will be that insignificant. Sadly I can see them shafting global(To be fair, delayed release date is them shafting us already). I expect minimum of 1 cosmic selection ticket and I won't paid anything if they don't give this.

>>1898861
But what if it comes with undressing feature

>>1898895
You know full well they will give skins with extra fanservice features as some kind of premium bonus for whaling like CS prestige skins.

>>1898895
My point is IF it's good enough to be locked behind dupe then i might cave in, fuck poorfags.

>>1898911
>>1898913
Don't worry, when the game falls under the red line they will start copying another infamous KR game, Brown Dust 2 and have all the girls popping out their nipples and cameltoe on their l2d lobby screen. Of course it will still be locked behind dupes.

>>1898822
>To be fair, delayed release date is them shafting us already
Global is gonna miss out on those random 5* they gave out in mail as compensation on top of selectors with cosmic units. I'll probably just be a f2p leech in this game if they do shaft global. Knowing Bside they're probably gonna shaft global FIRST then issue an apology and hand out gibs for global.

>>1898918
I don't care about random *5 as long as the game is "fixed". I just want that *5 selection(inc. cosmic) even if the game is fixed. On the other hand, if the game is still broken, then we do deserve what KR & JP get.

>>1898938
They can take their time with gameplay mechanics. Gacha on the other hand is something they can fix immediately, best they can do is to add a mileage system instead or on top of pity count.

Not even the "Legendary SHE" can save this game.

>>1898984
I bet they already cut "the Legendary SHE" and replaced her with a lookalike because they don't want to confuse those poor people who didn't play CS before.

>>1898986
>a good run
>*looks inside*
>release date Nov 20

>>1898184
QRD? Didnt the KR rating rise to 4.1 after gacha changes? >>1892214

>>1899752
>Gacha change and high rating attracted more people to try the game
>These people realized the game is dogshit because of shit optimization, bad business model, boring gameplay etc
>Put more 1 star rating so the score dropped again.
Something like that.

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>>1899752
It went up to 2.5
Personally i think it's good that people are being vocal and the devs aren't trying to hide it by manipulating the ratings.

Kaleidoriders will save us

>>1899779
>3241 reviews 1.2
>391 reviews 2.5
You guys looking at different stores or what

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>>1900055
I guess gpg has a different rating.

>>1900063
They said they're willing to change so i'll take their words for it.

JP Steam release when?

>>1900638
maybe in March along with global

>>1900655
SEA MLbros will save us

>>1900812
Nice poorfag cope, kek

>>1900810
Looking forward to pc client because i ain't touching emulators.

>>1900812
True. SEAchad will carry this game.

>>1900895
does google play games count as an emulator?

>>1900965
Yes, it's not a true PC client

>>1900965
Depends on the game. Some games run via emulator, some games are just the PC version.

>>1901950
Everything? Even being my wife?

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>>1901950
Loli trash when

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arca refunding and dooming as usual:
https://arca.live/b/starsavior/156387318
also schizo posting
owari da Kim Bside

>>1902055
JP simply doesn't care about the game meanwhile KR is continuing to try to burn it down. Will NA/EU and SEA keks be the Savior for Star Savior?

>>1902010
there's enough omega for both of us

>>1902057
lmao you can't be serious

>>1902057
So it will be DoA

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>>1901950

>>1902085
Yeah in two weeks sister, trust.

>>1902087
Cside flopped so this shit can flopped harder, cope

>can flopped

>>1902088
>can flopped
calm down mohammed

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KR livestream user stats
up to the package = whaling
fold = dropping game

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>>1902105
Cross server RTA, JP and KR gets a nearly 4 months head start if global launches on time (March 26). Aka global will be perma 4 months behind on idle resources
Source: AGF interview/livestream

>>1902106
Yeah this game can't be any deader.
If there is one thing gacha players hate, that's being left behind while other people got head start advantage. I really can't fathom which fucking idiots are making these insanely stupid decisions for Bside.

>>1902106
Sounds like an intentional scummy way to lure people to whale on Global

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>>1902105
>hopeCHADS outnumbering doomtroons
Based, i'm hopeful too.
Let's see what they can do in 4 months.

>>1902222
>F2P no charge
>HopeCHADs
Sure anon.

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>>1902233
Goes to show that people still have expectations for the game.
>BUT SAAR THEY NOT PAYING
Good, show those jaded devs that you're smart enough to not fall for their scummy practices.

>>1902258
>took a break for a while
>can no longer obtain the full reward
it didn't solve shit

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>>1902222
The big whales and spenders are quietly refunding and probably didn't vote in the poll after livestream/AGF. There were also refund guides in Arca but they probably got taken down by mods at some point.

Tribe9 soon?

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>>1902271
>probably
>probably

It's over. We are going back to Wuwa.

>>1902276
it do be like that sometimes

>Flopped hard in JP
>KR players are doing everything to sink this game
>Bside are unintentionally sabotaging Global release by sheer incompetence
Maybe the CN server will save this sinking ship, since I honestly can't see a way for them to survive the odds

>>1902282
Not related but Counterside's China servers EOS'd lel. CN isn't exactly fond of Bside either.

>>1902302
No way unless 100% refunds are possible, I'd imagine there's some legal repercussions if they did that

>>1902324
I recall after 6 months you aren't eligible for refunding anymore or something. There is a reason all these games always try to last for 6 months before announcing EOS.

>>1902302
I don't think StudioBSide has the financial capacity to do that. Even Kuro had to push an unfinished game out because they couldn’t afford to let Wuthering Waves stay in development hell any longer, even with Tencent backing them. Only companies like Mihomo, Cygames and Hypergryph can operate at that level.

>>1902344
>Mihomo, Cygames and Hypergryph
None of them actually pushed out a flop and had to remake to fix it, so it's not really the same. Staying in development hell or endless beta is still better than shutting down and remaking the game after launch, the bad rep and words of mouth would be enough for people to avoid the game even with 2nd attempt.

>>1902357
Trickcal’s second attempt was actually pretty successful, but then again I don't think BSide has the financial capacity to do so

>>1902360
I guess people still draw to Trickcal for its unique charm, while Bside went for generic 3d graphic with generic gameplay and now it completely bit them in the ass.

still gonna play the game btw

>>1902386
Play KR, at this point just don't waste your time waiting for global

>>1902387
nah i'll wait.

>>1902362
Trickcal or any other gacha with unique premise wouldnt have saved it if the game ifself was as awful as star savior is for that matter

>>1902357
Wasn't prico a flop that had to be remade?

>>1902402
Well Cygames considered it's a sequel rather than a remake, and even so it managed to last for a year and half, which was considered normal for a mobage back then when they were more or less just throwaway cash grab projects for many companies.

https://steamdb.info/app/3609080/
Game released on steam, can't view in my region so have a steamdb link

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lolige

>>1903385
>>1903387
Pantsu status?

I've heard this is a yurige? Can anyone confirm?

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>see clip of cute bunny girl dragon with a cute butt and cute tail
>look inside
>total gacha death
what the fuck noooo
she looked so cute

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>>1903603
almost everyone has it but so far there's no easy way to look it up

>>1903691
>>1903694
>>>/vg/sora

>>1903703
Well Shift Up should let us upskirt characters in the model viewer, no reason for this not being possible.

>>1909194
Only idiots and people who never experienced Bside's incompetence would get hyped for this game. The fact that they managed to do worse than the low expectation speak volumes of how dumb they are.

>>1909241
Yeah removing males from the game was a mistake, am i right sis?

>Bumps a dead thread just to seethe about it again.
Just let it die in peace xis.

>>1909340
This thread will stay till Global release before it can rest in peace.

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>>1902357
>Mihomo
>None of them actually pushed out a flop and had to remake to fix it

Seems like Mihoyodrone sissies badly want this game to not succeed. Agenda-driven much? Hoyochinkshit really is a plague in this subculture.

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>That ankle and leg position
bwis I don't feel so good..

>>1911136
AI is the future my friend

>>1910025
Lol, why would we care about this insignificant small game that it's killing itself?
We have bigger fish to catch

>we

>>1916281
You think they still have money to do anything else if SS flops? Filing for bankruptcy the only option left for them.

>>1916373
Sadly I agree. BSide doesn't deserve to touch another video game ever again.

>bumping the thread just to seethe
>again

https://www.reddit.com/r/StarSavior/comments/1pvskjs/review_of_star_savior_1_month_in/
>In fact, a lot of people are super concerned at the moment because the recent banner is super OP, meaning that powercreep is about to start for the game only a month in, highly dupe-dependent, while also being a Cosmic (only 1% per pull instead of 2%) when it had no reason to be one, making it super suspicious of being a cash-grab and that the devs have given up on the game's long-term health. The new banner is also a variation of an existing character (Waltz Asherah v. Asherah), and is full of recycled assets.

>>1916444
>arca is full of people posting their spark screen just to get her first copy
You know how fucked the rates are if this happens, on top of that they never mail an apology, a survey, or any random gibs in general unlike other kr devs.

>>1916281
What do you mean counterside died?

>>1916448
You do know that the spark shit carries over right? Like if you rolled enough during the past banners you can just post your spark screen too even though you never rolled in this banner.

>>1916438
Yeah they just return once a week just to seethe. It's pretty funny at this point that they're too invested in the game's downfall.

>>1916485
They won't bother posting a screencap of them using their points with a huge "NOT OBTAINED" if they're not pissed. I know because i'm close to 200 myself and haven't gotten that much ssr let alone a single fucking cosmic.

>>1916489
What are you even talking about. Everything about their banners except for the arcana are the same as Nikke's.

>>1916491
Yeah and I got 4 copies of her in 50 rolls. So that means your luck just sucks.

>>1916491
You really believe the people in arca are posting in good faith and that they really all didn't get anything in 200 rolls? They literally have been trying to bring the game down since release so I bet a lot of those are just trolling and didn't actually have to roll a lot.

>>1916494
They will get bored and move to Endfield next month anyway.

>>1916488
I understand why people are voicing concern(as they should) but unlike some doomsissies itt i have the firsthand experience
>>1916493
Good for you. Unfortunately the lucky few don't make up for the majority of the playerbase and they need all the goodwill they could get as they're leaving in droves.

>>1916492
It's objectively worse than Nikke even if its identical (which imo is a generous gacha) because it's far more expensive for a couple reasons: Support card banners alongside character banners, and dupes are required unlike Nikke where characters function at their full potential without dupes. Just imagine how awful your pity stock would feel, if you can even afford one, if they add limited character banners. The standard banner also doesn't have a wishlist, while Nikke had one on launch.

>>1916444
>In fact, a lot of people are super concerned at the moment because the recent banner is super OP, meaning that powercreep is about to start for the game only a month in, highly dupe-dependent, while also being a Cosmic (only 1% per pull instead of 2%) when it had no reason to be one, making it super suspicious of being a cash-grab and that the devs have given up on the game's long-term health.
Bro Nikke had Modernia in their first New Year Banner just a bit longer than a month after release with the same powercreep and the same lower rates because she's a pilgrim. I never saw anyone complain about that back then.

>>1916495
Oh i'm 100% sure, the game copied nikke's gacha rules while not giving the same amount of gibs. I had to exchange for a red hood in nikke as a latefag and still got a lot changes afterwards. Whatever they're working for the global update will decide the fate of the game or even the company itself.

>>1916510
Yeah and everyone has Lacy in Star Savior especially since people got a selector so what's the difference.

>>1916507
>>1916510
I never had scarlet until she's been reduced to a mere pvp/tower slave so alice was my only option yet the progression still feel a lot better than ss, the break mechanic in this game sucks and heavily catered towards cosmic characters, it's probably better to remove it all together for pve contents.

>>1916518
So your issue is only due to BSide? Then why bring up cosmic, powercreep, lower rates than non-cosmic characters and all that shit then since Nikke did those first? Just say it straight that you hate Studio BSide and be done with it.

>>1916514
>bro just get this designated meta character that you probably don't give a damn about to progress your game
Holy fucking sovlless batman

>>1916518
Their unique idea was smashing a bunch of big hits together to create the "ultimate game", since they must think no one ever tried that before.

>>1916521
Same as >>1916510 though

>>1916523
Same as where all the weekly seething comes from. Probably the drama thread. kek

>>1916524
Being the same as a three years old game is not a good thing.

>>1916534
The same thing happened in Nikke's first few months is what they were talking about...

>>1916520
It's simple, it's because of their BM, which is still the #1 problem with the game. Modernia doesn't need dupes, everyone and their grandmother owned her after launch. Nikke also handles powercreep fairly well in comparison, and New Years then became a trend for Pilgrims so its no longer unexpected. Meanwhile BSide seems to be shitting out 1% Cosmics before rebalancing the game, that require dupes and recycled assets, like it doesn't matter. No shit their players are gonna hate it.

>>1916535
The reception isn't the same thanks to the problems that i, this anon >>1916538, and the ledditblog mentioned.
See how other kr devs address players' concerns, none of those happened here, they just went silent.

>>1916507
Because most of Nikke players are new gachafags, even newer than Genshin fanbase. You really can't reason with them.

Global when???

>>1916727
March, but at this point the devs might EoS the game before that to stop bleeding money

>>1916710
Either the game is designed for those players or they thought it's a flawless design that they can mindlessly copy, it is what it is.

>>1916752
I'll play it either way. Give me the anime sluts.

>>1916752
The sad part is that I don't think people realize how significant the problems are and that Global release might not change enough to fair any better. Look at what happened on KR/JP side: they Doubled the gacha rates (to match Nikke btw) and players are still pissed off. That's insane to think about.
The game was built around the BM, not vice versa, which means the entire game would have to be rehauled from scratch. That's not possible to do in 3 months and would cost them more money than they could afford. Not only that but it completely fucks over anyone that has already whaled (which isn't a first offense BSide has done). So they have to somehow salvage this mess without jeopardizing any of that? Good luck.

>>1916998
They should simply do the trickcal strat; unrelease the game, sell the directors house, and use that money to make the game playable, shouldn't take more than 12 to 18 months of crunch.
Its either that or EoS in less than 6 months

>>1917008
That would mean the director guy loves his work to the point of self sacrifice to keep it alive, but so far from those reports, the guy handling Bside is anything but that.

>>1917008
I don't think bside ceo understands anime/meme culture that much, he's just copying anything that's popular at the time without looking into it.

I have been really interested in this.
I tried umamusume, like the raising elements but couldn't keep playing because the whole horse girl thing never really did it for me, nor did the racing theme.
So I have been looking forward to this since I also actually like turned based games
So what's with all the drama around it, can I get a rundown? It probably is my most anticipated upcoming gacha at this point so the reception being bad is quite disappointing.

>>1919758
Greedy, out of touch devs led by a clueless idiot thinking mixing a bunch of game system together would create the best gacha game ever. Turned out it wasn't that easy.
Read those long posts in this thread if you want to know in detail what's actually going on with this game.

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>no monthly resets
>no mails
>only overpriced molds that don't include cosmic and newer characters
lisette a cute

>>1919758
The gameplay is so bad because they want to accommodate PvP and the optimization is trash. They blew their chance because of these two most important things.

Is it time for the weekly seething session?

>>1922774
>Q. With so many great games in 2026, why bother with SSE?
>A. We still have SSE users, so improvements are necessary.
I'm not feeling so good about Star Savior
I get that they're scrambling and people are complaining about almost everything but the attitude screams make as much profit as possible before we inevitably have to pull the plug.
>ceo is rubbish at games
What a surprise.

>>1922774
we've said this a million times, but they need to unrelease the game, funamentally change the gameplay for it to make sense, and re-release it with a different name. They have only applied bandaid fixes that one cares about, the population of the game keeps decreasing and the JP server might as well be dead

>>1922871
I agree with this except with changing the name. Gameplay and the optimization are their biggest problem. The story, character design, and the animation are good enough.

>>1922774
That's a lot. I'll still keep it on radar for now but idk for how long.

>>1922936
>Ability cost
Nope. Cooldown. And that's the reason why the gameplay is shit. The game is too limiting that there's no strategy available. I've said this before, but HSR gameplay is a masterpiece if you compare it to this game.

>50 days """anniversary"""
heh, appreciate it

>>1924467
They have to celebrate it, they might not get to 100. Like how gachas now celebrate half anniversaries because of how shitty their quality is

>>1923438
Cooldowns are stupid but they can at least still achieve E7 levels of strategic depth with that. Which isn't much at all but hey it managed to convince a bunch of retards that it's good enough for a pvp eSports scene

status report?

>>1936427
let them cook

>>1936427
Fucked. The game entered the death spiral, it keeps loosing players, and the ones left aren't spending, so it disincentivizes devs to improve the game and it keeps loosing players.
The devs have implemented some minor QoL stuff, but the core gameplay its fucked and they are avoided talking about it, they clearly don't want to put in the effort to remake the game.
At this point it would be better to cut their losses and shut it down, or send it back to the oven for 18 more months (like trickcal did), but there are rumors that the devs borrowed money with less than legal means, and if this game doesn't do well their other game is also fucked.

>>1936427
CounterSide collab in March

>>1938012
wtf I thought you were joking
https://x.com/StarSavior_EN/status/2016473959685070891