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>>1944824
Why are they doing the Avengers thing?

>>1944831
Why not? Maybe that's how all of them look while they're waiting to be deployed. Monmusu Assemble!

AI translation guide
https://pastebin.com/ePz6bQBS

I've made this, if anyone could check it and see if its actually works then it'd be nice.

>>1944877
Were you able to unfuck the text or get any text hooker like Texttractor or SugoiTranslator to show the text on a floating window? It's kind of unusable in it's current state due to the atrociously bad wordwrap.

>>1944905
No, not yet. Reading the story will have to wait, its only for playing the game which is the main draw for me.

>>1944913
Isn't it the other way around? It's super easy to play the game and memorize the UI without a translation but the one thing you'd need a TL patch for is reading the story or what the characters say.

>>1944922
The UI is one thing but the character pages with their skills are most important to me, without that I'd be spending forever looking each one up over and over until I've memorized them.

>>1944938
>The UI is one thing but the character pages with their skills are most important to me
You'd just use a wiki, it's what I do with other Japanese games always. It's what I've always done with stuff like TSK or BA even.
Honestly you get so used to it that it's easy to forget the game is in Japanese because eventually you know the entire UI and game by heart and habit.

The real problem where you can't just wiki everything is story since you can only read that in game for the full experience and that's where a patch would come in handy.

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>>1944947
>>1944938
>>1944913
>>1944922
I know it's not the same thing as an in-game patch, but I've translated the prologue and Chapters 1-5 (the Wraithon Arc) and tried to put in some effort to cleaning up some of the dialogue so it's more accurate, and while I know I can't guarantee that it's gonna be perfect I'd be willing to just give them all another look over to see if I catch anything else and then dump all of them into pastebins if there's any anons here who just want to at least read the story and know what they're saying there. I'd probably try to better organize them if I did this though so it's more easily to separate the scenes in each chapter.
I'm currently making my way through translating Chapter 6 this way, but I've only translated up to Logica's game show and the cavalcade of comedy that whole thing was.

>>1945022
I would like to read it so any pastebins would be appreciated. No need to tidy it up too much either.

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>all your tokens are now unicorns
hey hey, isn't this some kind of population crisis?!

Don't worry about it. It's just Year of the Horse.

>>1945302
it would've been neat if we'd gotten a horse girl centric event for the new years thing. maybe one of the horses will get an alt at least.

....this is pretty ridiculous though lmao

>>1944829
i wish i could be that cozy

>>1945282
Is it gay if the horns touch?

>>1945563
as long as you say 'no yuri', it's not gay

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Chocolate girls

>>1945316
But they did do a horse girl for new years.
The Umamusume kind though

>>1946884
I know Kirin got an alt and she 'kinda' counts, I just meant I wish the event had been centered specifically on horse-girls for the new years, rather than just also having one horse. There's a year of the dog, so that event would've made a lot more sense if they had saved the idea for a year of the dog.
Which would've been.....well, quite a while away I guess maybe they just really liked the idea and couldn't think of anything to do with horses.
>>1946437
Oh, neat, so Ticka and Vorpal showing up was actually hinting towards the valentine's event, that's pretty cool. Glad the Gargoyle Girl finally got something too.

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>someone drew fan art of the confident heroine turning into a monster girl
VIVI HIRE THIS SHOTA

Move aside Kirin. It's year of the boar now.
https://youtu.be/ZXZsGnnJfEc?si=b0S1JCA_qwff3NxE

>>1948798
You will never convince me that this wasn’t caused by a typo given the sheer level of bugginess and errors that keep cropping up in this game these days

>>1948844
If you think about it really hard it would be lore accurate to have all these bugs pop up because the updates and changes were done by Vivi.

>>1948844
What's specifically happening here is that when Difnilla is retreated, her flame patch DoT calls for enemy HP instead of her attack value. This is likely caused by not correctly placing the call value function before the attack is executed. Rather than a typo, it's caused by the code being in the wrong order. The actual worst case scenario here is the game outright crashing if it can't find the value it's looking for, so it could've been worse.

If you're the guy who thought the initial 200% value was a typo, the values shown in a unit's textboxes have no direct relation to the actual code implemented. As in they must be typed and put in separately. Since they matched on inception, there is very little chance of a typo causing it to be inflated. There might theoretically be a miscommunication if the person who decides the numbers made a typo when giving the unit blueprint to the person who codes the units in however.

>>1949397
they keep making typos between both the description value AND the actual code, hell we even just had another example this collab because the dragon girl's not supposed to have a fixed attack speed buff and it's getting changed to the multiplicative one it was intended to be. Either one of them got into a miscommunication and thought it was supposed to be 200 and not 20, or they intended to add 20 but made it 200 by mistake since an extra 0 is rather innocuous compared to other kinds of typos despite how much of a difference it makes. I could very easily believe they put that extra zero in both of those on accident and just never caught it. I think they don't even bother to check or test anything anymore. It would explain a lot.
And yes I first saw that explanation from the game's oversea players on the wiki, and I just think it makes the most amount of sense.
>her flame patch DoT calls for enemy HP instead of her attack value
this is so stupid lmao how does this even fuckin happen
would've rather had the game crash so they'd get forced to at least fix some of this shit, but they're just too damn busy with their domino-checkers chinese gambling game

>>1948918
i knew it, it's all her fault!

>>1949397
For some reason it requires the enemy to enter their attack animation first and then have her retreat for the bug to occur

It's not her fault that all she could afford was a roll of dutch tape!

where's the money going, vivi?

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>>1949540
to what everyone truly wants....

>>1948304
AIEEEE NO ROTTY DON’T LOOK

>>1949467
There's likely an array that contains the stat values somewhere and the enemy calling its attack values bumps its HP value to where Difnilla's attack value was in memory. That's a more complex bug.

>Fixes Mahamut's attack speed buff
>As a result breaks everyone else's attack speed buffs to stack like Mahamut's before fix
lol

>>1950831
I guess the Japanese are getting into the trend of AI coding stuff too

Oh nooooo! Contact with KuruSta is causing the monmusus to awaken to Celestial power. That world is absolutely doomed if they realize it...

>>1950831
Wait...if everyone else's attack speed buff is stacking how do we know her attack speed buff is fixed?

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>>1950831
>>1950843
>>1950863
hoo boy........it's AI hours, isn't it
I'm not one for doom posting but it would definitely explain what's going on at this point

The new TD is most likely made by the same team that codes Aigis, Monmusu, and Castle so the team doesn't have enough people and it appears the decision was to sacc Monmusu. Would explain all the issues in the past year.
Aigis did a big one with their hero banner and did a huge compensation.

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>>1950881
That's genuinely sad if that's truly the reason behind it, and I think that's undoubtedly a very very likely explanation for what's really been going on. I sincerely believe that MMTD's a better and more fun game than Aigis (which makes sense to me now having played both, since it seems to have built on and improved off of it, hell TD's even somehow harder than Aigis is), but it's also far younger than it is and Aigis is their main moneymaker. If they're throwing the island under the bus for that cthulhu game and it ends up getting completely fucked over as a result it'd honestly piss me off quite a bit.

why does it feel like this always happens........I've only ever played two 'gacha' style mobile games, both times turned out to be around their third year of life, and both times that's also the year where things started going awry for them. I just hope this doesn't end the same way as Dragalia Lost did.

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>Playing new event
>Suddenly every single girl deployed slows down to a crawl while the enemies continue to move fast
>The girls deployed can barely attack
>to the point that some of the bees just move out of their range entirely before they can even finish their attack animations, causing it to cancel/loop, and make them just never attack at all
>go back and check the bees
>bees make no mention of anything, they just poison
>the level description doesn't say anything about such a drastic molasses level attack speed reduction; it simply says enemy attack stats are buffed
>go back in
>place Okyuu
>'It'sa Crazy Octopus Party!'
>Place Lucretia
>She immediately fucking cripples the entire team
>Move Lucretia away so no one else is in her radius
>All allied Monster Girls suddenly go back to normal attack speed
>Move her back
>They slow down again
>Whatever the fuck the Developers did has caused Lucretia to become completely fucking bricked
>She's now actively SLOWING the team
GOD
DAMMIT
FIX YOUR GAME VIVI OR SO HELP ME

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ok admittedly the fact the gimmick stacks with Aqua's and makes her become three times bigger is kinda funny but I'm still pretty displeased, and also pretty baffled as to how they've fucked their entire system up this badly.

In a similarly inexplicable way when I tried using the Lumyuda (the alien cat girl with the poison radius) for one level, she was suddenly moving significantly moree slowly even without Lucretia there, and I realized one of her awakening bonuses is an increase to her attack speed. When I reset all of her awakening bonuses to remove it and then used her in another level as a test, removing that one bonus caused her to behave normally again. Aqua is also supposed to slow down when she attacks while giant, and while I think she's still "slower" than usual, the decrease in her attack speed is much more minor now when prior there was definitely a noticeable pause. But, I cannot tell if SS!Okyuu has any changes to her when I've tried her out, and I don't think the Idol Beastgod's skill that gives the attack speed boost feels much different either.

I really don't know what they did, but at the minimum it feels like everything that had a 'fixed' speed boost value has been completely fucked up.

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I tested Nazuna as well since her signature weapon also gives her a minor attack speed buff, and yeah, Nazuna is clearly slowed down now instead of sped up due to what they did. And putting Lucretia there just exaggerates the slowdown even more. I have no idea how many girls are effected by this but I would wager every single girl who has a flat attack speed buff for themselves in some capacity was fucked by whatever they did.

Pink haired loli with psycho eyes looks peak

>>1951007
huh, never really saw her as one in the original outfit but i can kinda see it in this one

I messed around with XUnity some more today. Reading the documentation this time, I noticed that it has a TranslationAggregator hotkey

>ALT + 1: Toggle Translation Aggregator UI.

This hotkey should bring up a window that has the translation in it which in theory should perfectly solve the issue MTD has which is of text cutting off and not being able to be fully displayed.
Except, it doesn't work. I can't tell if it's a problem with my configuration, if it's a problem with my Bepinex configuration, if it's a problem with my plugin or if it's just a game issue but the bottom line is that it doesn't work for me.
If anyone can find how to enable this or make it work then a translation should be very possible since the translation would be on it's own window and not subject to MTD's engine limitations so sharing my experience from today here in hopes someone smarter than me can figure out a solution or do something useful with it.

>this day, MC is summoned by Yuil to the forest who greets them with very heavy and awkward flattery that both MC and Vivi comment on
>asking why she had them come, it's Valentine's day, so everybody's making chocolate and when she finally came to making her own, there were already no ingredients left
>Vivi remarks that the battles for Cacao are especially fierce
>Yuil fearful of that battleground, asks if they might know of any substitutes
>Vivi asks Yuil why she's making chocolate and she embarrassedly says she can't
>Vivi ponders her boldness in being able to ask MC to help make the chocolate that will presumably be given to him, but holds her tongue
>MC honestly really can't think of any way to substitute cacao out of chocolate
>Vivi concurs as chocolate without cacao is as different as margarine and butter
>Yuil thought aren't they the same, but holds her tongue in fear
>Yuil has heard of some chocolate leaf so she wanted to investigate it in hopes it might help her make chocolate, so we go help her find it
>monsters
>Yuil says she wouldn't taste and her meat's probably very tough as it turns to stone a lot
>Vivi says regardless of Yuil's taste, there's a delicious MC right here
>MC says he isn't delicious to eat either
>Yuil thinks otherwise to the point MC notices the greedy look on her face
>dealing with the monsters, Vivi noticed they seemed a bit hyper
>MC wonders if it's the leaves Yuil was talking about as chocolate is a stimulant
>the monsters seem like a good lead, but Yuil is fearful
>Tikka runs by with the standard I'm going to be late routine and Yuil notices she smells of chocolate, let's follow her
>Vivi finds it a bit too convenient and grills Yuil on if she's just saying that because she's afraid to fight monsters
>Yuil swears she isn't combined with her best flattery so off to follow Tikka

>catching up to Tikka, we ask if she knows of any chocolate leaves
>are you talking about Chocoleaf?
>that's a surprisingly straightforward name, however even Vivi has never heard of it
>Tikka explains it's from the mirror world, also she has to hurry as she's going to be late
>when Yuil asks for what, Vivi claims she's just pretending most of the time as there isn't anything
>monsters
>blocking Tikka after we deal with the monsters, we ask about the Chocoleaf
>they're plants that grow in the mirror world
>while they look unremarkable, if you boil and melt them, they turn to chocolate
>Yuil demands some from Tikka
>how rude, and I don't have any in the first place
>Yuil claims a liar, a she can smell the chocolate on her, give it!
>Yuil then turns to stone surprising Tikka
>Vivi explains to Tikka that Yuil does that reflexively when she gets embarrassed
>you must've been the cause
>Vivi then pressures Tikka into working together as she surmises she's also probably trying to make chocolate
>as Tikka side glances at MC, Vivi knows she's got her on the hook
>if we work together, maybe there will be a chance?
>or is it you doubt me, Tikka?
>t-there's no way!
>assertive towards those below her, humble towards those above her, reading Tikka's psychology of wanting to be led by those in power, Vivi took control of her mercilessly
>with that, she joins the party and leads us to the Chocoleaf
>...then we remember the petrified Yuil and come back to get her

>walking for a while, MC wonders how much further to the Chocoleaf
>Yuil panic petrifies at the thought of having to go to the mirror world
>Tikka tells her to cut that out and that Chocoleaf isn't exclusive to the mirror world
>one, two, three napes, I'll cut off your heads!
>Yuil petrifies in terror
>Tikka asks why Lapinus did that
>if you don't make an impact with your appearances, you'll be eliminated in the world of monmusu with high turnover
>Tikka wonders if she's being too inconspicuous in contrast to Lapinus and Yuil's gimmicks
>asking Lapinus about Chocoleaf, she surprisingly reveals they grow right over there
>wait, no, where was it
>well it's hard to tell from appearance, but you can tell from the smell and when you eat it, it's like-
>monsters
>after fighting them and taking advantage of Chocoleaf, MC finds himself grown giant which turns out to be a side effect of it
>won't that make chocolate made with it also grow people
>cooking it removes the giantification effect, but it leaves the aphrodisiac effect
>as Vivi asks if Yuil can manage to make chocolate with this, Lapinus overhears and gets excited at the prospect of MC making chocolate
>while MC says it's Yuil who's trying to make it, Tikka and Yuil also get excited at the idea, so Vivi tells him he's got no choice now
>if it makes everyone happy...!

>spotting some Chocoleaf, MC asks Lapinus how she can tell
>maybe she should compose a poem and MC will be able to sing the difference after losing his head
>on top of telling the difference, Vivi also wonders why it's suddenly growing so abundantly on Gespenst
>maybe because it's Valentine's
>actually a decent possibility as Valentine's has caused various things like chocolate rain and meteors before
>Tikka is about to say why the Chocoleaf is growing before
>monsters
>after defeating them, we finally secure some Chocoleaf
>not a lot though Tikka and Lapinus point out
>only enough for something that can fit on your pinky, a small bud's worth
>as Yuil overwhelms herself thinking of presenting her bud, Vivi says we can just get more as there seems to be plenty growing
>MC asks Tikka what was she going to say about why the Chocoleaf was growing here
>because she planted them
>she?
>who would go to the trouble of getting plants from the mirror world to plant on Gespenst
>she pops up, being Liddell and Urunella
>an unexpected combo
>Liddell was mainly just carrying her own supply, but Urunella contacted her as she was interested in growing them on Gespenst due to the "enlargening" and "stimulating" effects
>as Urunella lives off bodily fluids, MC growing larger and being stimulated would increase the amount...
>the other monmusu gulp
>we explain our chocolate quest to Liddell and Urunella
>Urunella comments about the fierce cacao battles reaching the peak of their chaos and getting to the third round
>who's directing that!?
>Liddell notes word about Chocoleaf hasn't spread too much yet and she's happy to give us as much as we need which we're very thankful
>Urunella asks for body fluids then
>...uh, I'll consider it...
>Fris suddenly drops in telling Liddell it's a disaster
>apparently she was also helping and was in charge of temperature control for the plants
>also, the disaster is that poachers are now hunting for Chocoleaf

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>>1944829
Important Notice: I realized I messed this up on accident and forgot a " at the end of the sentence. It should be-

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-and then it will work fine. My apologies, but I wanted to correct this once I realized the error just in case any other anons ITT want/need to use this.
I found the full resolution version of that picture too, so I'll pair them together.

>the day they released an update that broke their game was also the same day that they added the dumpstor event to the archive
it's like poetry
truly she is the demon that brings ruin to the world......

>>1950881
why would they even make a fourth game if they can't keep their shit straight with three of them?

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>>1951895
She was only trying to protect us

>>1951904
Because they're crunching on a new game and not just small updates. It should be back to normal once the new game is released and the player base settles.

What are the bear tickets for? I know they say to hold on to them but I don't know why

>>1951949
i can't even use half my preferred team of girls because of their flat attack speed buffs, and i either have to go through and un-awaken them to get rid of it or just bench them because it's baked into them like from a trait or weapon. and certain enemies now just cause characters to become completely frozen and incapable of moving or attacking at all. i dont have to deal with the harpy queen problem at least, because i don't have her, but this shit's just still inexcusable. apparently some players have been able to abuse the new mechanics to also just cheese everything with certain girls as well due to the multiplication getting fucked, but i don't have those characters. hell the events aren't even worth it, they didn't even bother making the collab have a girl to get and they cut down on the stories a lot. and instead of just hiring more people they've been burning money on fucking mahjong. i doubt it's going back to normal even after that new game gets crapped out. because they're just gonna continue to focus on the new thing and will simply ignore the game that's falling. i really wouldn't be surprised if they're just trying to make an excuse to kill it off at this point, because that's what it's starting to feel like.

>>1951954
you need five to get anything out of them. you get three per collab game, of which there's five, so you have to also play the other four games to actually get the rewards. or you can just buy them directly with cash money. if you don't feel like playing any of the other games, then they're worthless.

>>1951957
But anon!
Think of all the compensation we'll get out of this!

>>1951995
>your 300 gemmies, sir

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>>1952002
It's a shame they're massacred poor dear Lucretia, because otherwise I probably would have been able to match that somewhat, but I don't have any other girls who have shared attack speed buffs.

Still thought it would be funny to at least try while I'm able to though, fuck it why not? My favorite character got turned into a brick, so let's give Okyuu the power of GOD and watch her animations break but honestly seeing the thing get flung back down the hallway by Rycliff was also a pretty great part to it.

Collab seemed pretty boring but this certainly made it interesting.
Thanks Mamu.

>>1952035
it's kinda sad (but also funny) how the collab was so shit that this ended up being the best part of it. the dragon sucks, but the result of her inclusion is at least pretty funny.

>>1952043
>the dragon sucks
I mean yeah, her special ability is a black hole. Those things tend to do that.

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>>1952035
>>1952043
I'm sure we'll all look back on this and laugh when we get our TDF Four-Way-Collab that's definitely happening this year. I hope that game ends up being good at least.

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If I wanted to start playing and got this, who do I focus on or what do I do?

>>1952045
really? her special seems to just be throwing a flail at people. but hopefully her terribleness will finally get the devs off their asses to spare some mahjong money for the poor unpaid code-vivi that they chained to the computer. it's great beast god abuse I tell you.
>>1952046
i wouldn't bet on it.
>>1952047
that's a pretty good starting hand at least if that's all your legendary girls. i can't actually tell you how good the dragon's still gonna be though since she's what broke the system currently. she'll probably still be good if it gets "fixed" in the way they were intending her to work. otherwise the frost giant, medusa, iron golem, spider and the psycho bunny are probably the best things you got.

>>1952054
>i wouldn't bet on it.
I love lovecraft man, let me hope! Okyuu getting to be in that game would be kino. If it's truly the reason behind the current situation it would at least be nice if the game we got out of it was good.
I also ended up pulling the one who seems to be the "main girl" for it on the second or third day which was also kinda neat too. But I guess I just think Okyuu has a better design than any of the girls in it I've seen so far.

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>>1952054
>really?
Yeah. Her abilities in TSK are always "Black hole <insert word here>".

>>1952059
'death storm tail' doesn't sound like a black hole.
i just think she's an extremely lame dragon girl though, design wise. pretty half-assed. all the dragons in TD are far better.

>>1952061
Well yeah, it's kind of hard to beat the Monster Musume game at monster musumes since that is this game's biggest strength.
She's still cute though.

Sad we didn't get Mauro and Mamu interaction.

>>1952063
disagree, but w/e
at least the fox was good

>>1952047
Step 1: Get 1 character to 120.
Step 2: Search for Friend with Chupina and add them.
Step 3: Have Friend's Chupina carry you til you get enough Gold(Major limiting factor)
Step 4: If you have 7 day beginner mission try to complete it. You get a subskill that you can't get again once missions expire.

>>1952047
Do the seven day start dash as soon as possible. But otherwise just enjoy the game and use the girls you like. Don't feel the need to cheese levels per >>1952068 unless you really get stuck on something. Use your red tickets for the EX missions on the one for gold and you'll get a pretty good amount of it.

>>1952070
>>1952068
If there was a 7-day mission then I most definitely missed it many eons ago. In exchange, I'm sitting on like 3 gacha pities? I expected the number to go down but I got rather lucky rolling on collab and valentines so it did not.

>>1952074
Don't bet on it, I started ages ago for a day then came back a few months ago and still had the 7 day beginner mission to do.

>>1952078
What's the icon or banner for it? I probably missed it still since I've been doing the Kumafes logins and it's been 7 days since then.

>>1952079
If its still there it'd be on the left of the main screen around the paid button parts

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>>1952079
NTA, but here's how it looked when I was doing it; the icon for the Seven Day Starter Dash is the one with the Vivi and the '7' on it.

>>1952081
Yeah I don't have that for sure, I only have the two buttons below it.

>>1952082
Well, they you shouldn't feel the need to worry anon, just enjoy the game and have fun at your own pace. Take it slow and don't rush through it. It's a good reward ability, but it's not one you'll be terribly off without. I'd just organize a team of the girls you like the most and go from there.

>>1952084
Yeah, so far I just smashed every LR unit I have into a team and called it a day. Slowly figuring out the game but the fact that character deaths don't count against me is really nice because I remember people randomly dying and ruining my chances at a 3* was a problem in Aigis.

>>1952087
Don't forget you can move all your units around after deploying them, thats a huge bonus too.

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as an aside it's funny how the strongest character i currently have in aigis (besides Eftra probably) turned out to just be Lulu in a hat. I swear this artist must have some kind of love for oversized boots and gloves.

>>1952087
Also while you might not need to yet, you should probably put a healer in there eventually; Donne and Rin are good enough if you're still starting out and have no one better. Donne can still see use even later on though due to her stun mechanic.

https://monmusutd.fandom.com/wiki/Monster_Musume_Tower_Defense_Wiki
Are there non-dead wikis? This one seemed cool but it's dead

>>1952219
check the OP anon….

>>1952219
I put a link to the japanese wiki in the OP for convenience, so hopefully it can help you.
I think it's pretty cool that wiki has all the voicelines for the girls that they did put on it though.

>>1952054
>otherwise the frost giant, medusa, iron golem, spider and the psycho bunny are probably the best things you got.
Is there a particular or specific reason those units are good?

>>1952567
NTA but
>Iron Golem
Airen deals a tremendous amount of damage with her skill and when she's deployed, and is relatively durable, and can be recalled and then redeployed to keep using her as a bomb to clear things out. She's very powerful. Also, once at a high enough level, there's a combination you can make for her without paying any money that can allow her to activate her skill before she's actually deployed, which causes the damage of her bomb drop to skyrocket to obscene levels.
>Spider Maiden
Kazune slows down enemies and can shorten the skill recharge times of ranged units deployed with her skill, which is just really useful.
>Frost Giant
Narkepahune is extremely strong and durable, slows enemies down during her skill with the blizzard she calls, and her craftable weapon gives her an extra block and regeneration during that blizzard which makes her a very efficient frontline character.
>Medusa
Lauren petrifies everyone when she's deployed and then petrifies everyone again when she activates her skill, and in general she just hits really hard and can get a lot of bonus damage off on enemies who aren't immune to poison or petrification. Her craftable weapon also increases her damage to petrified enemies off skill as well as giving her the chance to petrify with her normal attacks. She pairs extremely well with Charis (the Cockatrice Girl), as Charis has a ridiculous 2.5x damage bonus on petrified enemies (although Charis works best with her EX II skill), and they can help petrify stuff for each other. So if you end up using Lauren it's reasonable to pair them together.
>bunny
I don't own her but I tried her out, she's kinda fun and a self-sufficient blocker similarly to Narkepahune, but more focused on just single-target damage. However her instant kill gimmick can be used to cheese some things, like the big boss enemies in the labrynth.

>>1952588
Thanks, that is very helpful.

https://monmusu-td.wikiru.jp/?%E3%82%AA%E3%82%B9%E3%82%B9%E3%83%A1%E3%82%AD%E3%83%A3%E3%83%A9

Is this up to date? Should I try to go for the recommended event characters too?

Goshujin-kun, a second OHKO has hit the island.
https://youtu.be/ONgvo59hX1c?si=w_kJlPZapG76h5Ga

>>1952594
You're welcome anon, I'm happy I can help you out!
And I would consider that pretty up-to-date yeah, as I also referenced that page myself when I was first starting out (albeit a bit later on).

As for the suggested rentals, I agree with their list, but one thing I would rectify though is that I disagree with it's assessment on Okyuu's Gun form feeling 'underpowered' in 'later content', as I'm going to attest to you that from personal experience she very much does not. On the contrary she's probably my favorite girl to use because of how ridiculously awesome she feels to just octuple shot rapid fire through so many things, and her unlockable EX II skill allows her to switch between massive focus-fire DPS and clearing huge swarms of enemies. In fact the reduced range of the second skill even came in handy in the challenge stages where enemies reflect damage while unblocked because it allowed her to not shoot them too early.

The paygated anniversary version of Raikon didn't get included on that list either, but she's also currently the single strongest character in the game, and will basically kill everything in any level on auto-pilot bar anything immune to physical damage. Besides her though I agree with the list: SS!Okyuu, School!Nigryu, and Anni!Rin are supremely powerful units (just barely avoiding being broken), and then Chupina's probably the strongest character who isn't Anni!Raikon. You have as much time to go through the event archive as you need so you can either do it in order or just grab whoever you want the most. However I'd also suggest training up Hariella, the Harpy Queen, from that archive, as her EX II is incredibly powerful and useful in any situation, letting you withdraw and redeploy all units for a set period of time at the swiftest rate in the game.

>>1952604
Hey I was right, her instant-kill can cheese even more than I expected!
It seems even more efficient than the previous one did since it requires less extremely-specific limited/hard to obtain units to be able to pull it off; only two there are limited. I really have to wonder what they were thinking with Yano but apparently they also pulled a lot of their staff off for the castle game and it's had a lot of maintenance worked on it so their bug fixers or testers just seem to not be around. But still, they tried to prevent her from insta-killing bosses and she ended up being able to anyways.

I love a lot of the bosses and find them very fun and well-designed fights when you're fighting them "correctly" (i.e, the way the devs probably intended you to do so) but it's still undeniably impressive to see stuff like this anyways, even if I'll never use it myself. I'm just happy to see Okyuu and Rycliff there. Kinda funny given I just used those two yesterday too. But apparently a lot of japanese players hate Aurum for some reason despite how awesome that fight is. I guess that's why he showed up in such disrepair in the last alien event.

>>1952604
I thought this was the third or fourth.

>>1952621
It's the second 'true OHKO' that kills things in one hit.

I feel like I'm learning a lot of how unity games work against my will while trying to get the translation plugin to be actually readable

>>1952807
Give it up, there's too much work involved. Just because it feels close doesn't mean you should keep going.

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>>1952807
>>1952841
Even if the reasons/motivations are completely different, that there's now a second anon who's learning stuff about coding directly because of this island is kind of funny to me. It's truly a special place! Hope you get it to work.

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>>1952841
I'm so close I can almost taste it though, I probably would have been demotivated and went back to my other games given that I already met the kumafes tix requirements if the game didn't keep hitting my weakness of cute small girls on every loading screen which game me the motivation to give it one more attempt.
I need to pass out for today but my findings/misc ramblings are:

- Bepins version of the plugin are terrible. It feels like mission impossible to get anything that isn't Google TL working with it. It works beautifully if you feed it replacements like "このゲームでは音声が再生されます。\r\n音量にはご注意ください" to "This game plays audio.\nPlease be careful about the volume." since it knows what to do but the translation quality takes a sharp nosedive the second it switches from the premade translations to the MTL.

- Melonloader WORKS. I could not get anything working with Bepin but I was able to get Melonloader to recognize and load an external translator (SugoiTranslator) and use it to actually translate lines on a different test game but I haven't tried feeding it to MTD yet since I need to pass out soon and I don't want to stay up doing this and there's a lot of other things I want to test.

- There used to be a Mist Train translation that used MelonLoader which is where I got the idea. I know DMM doesn't seem to care about Bepin or Hachimi so hopefully they don't care about me using Melon for this game if it ends up being a viable solution.

Required links to get Sugoi working that aren't listed on the pastebin another anon provided are:
https://archive.org/download/sugoi-toolkit-public
Download the Sugoi Toolkit

https://github.com/Vin-meido/XUnity-AutoTranslator-SugoiOfflineTranslatorEndpoint
Sugoi Translator Endpoint + DLL for XUAT

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I've realized now that I had completely forgotten about actually putting those note transcripts into pastebins; I still probably need to clean up the other five main story chapters but for the prologue I just saw some small things I needed to correct and straightened out the names.
>https://pastebin.com/zLpRrPRL
I'll try to remember to get to the other chapters of the wraithon arc; it's probably not perfect but it should hopefully still be good enough.

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I couldn't unfuck the wordwrap issue but I managed to get a better non-GoogleTL translator working.

I tried the Melonmod method I mentioned above in my sleep deprived state but the game refused to load the translator mod using melon so I applied what I learned to Bepin and it worked out quite nicely. It requires using SugoiTranslator though which in my opinion, is worse than Gemini or DeepL but better than Google Translate.

The problem seems to lay on the fact DeepL deprecated support for various API methods so the DeepL support for XUAT is dead and broken until the developer of it finds a workaround or a fix but if the fix requires signing up for a "Free" (Requires Credit Card) API then it's going to be a lot worse than before.
I also wanted to attempt implementing support for Gemini as a custom translator but Gemini seems to have slashed their free plans by a LOT so the plugin would reach the limit of calls in less than an hour of reading so it wasn't worth it. Didn't feel like messing with the other options and Sugoi seemed good enough so I went with it.

Installation instructions are basically just >>1944877 except you want to grab the links I posted above and add SugoiTranslator as a translator to the config file like
https://pastebin.com/z22J0Vtt

>>1953167
Also, as an additional thing, you can hide the BepInEx console if it bothers you by going to the BepInEx.cfg and changing the setting located at [Logging.Console] to false. It'll hide the console window but still translate the game and prevents clutter on your task bar.

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ok I admit turning School!Agyro into a dragon spirit machine gun is kinda awesome to watch
I think at this point I'm just really bummed that Lucretia can't participate in the fun

Argyro's like a speedster in bullet time when you slow down the game.

>>1953167
I'm glad you managed to get it to work anon! hope you're enjoying the story.
or at least finding it funny in some way.

◆臨時メンテナンスのお知らせ◆
本件修正のため以下にてメンテナンスを実施します。

2月13日(金)14:00~15:00
対応内容詳細はお知らせをご確認ください。

度重なるご迷惑をおかけしている事を鑑み、
お詫びとして、臨時メンテナンス完了後に
幻獣石(無償)1,000個等を配布いたします。
#モンスター娘TD

>>1953947
1,000 apology gemmies instead of 300?! Truly they are generous!

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Finally..........peace has been restored...........!

>>1953719
It only barely works and it's honestly pretty fucked. It's so fucked that I think it'd honestly be better to just play without it and use some sort of OCR software to translate the story.
Game is pretty fun and charming though, definitely a good experience.

>>1954235
Well, that's unfortunate to hear but I'm glad you're still having a lot of fun anon!
I don't know what OCR is but what I've been doing is
>scan text
>inspect anything that stands out to make sure it's accurate
>work out any erroneous or unusual translations by hand
>reference SFX Japanese guide for assistance
>put in doc
>repeat
and that's basically how I've been doing it. Trying to rely on a translation tool results in a lot of things, mostly gags, getting lost in it's attempt to translate them. Some of it is just character skills or speech patterns, like more formal or informal behavior, but others are things like "Ameri wants to fish out the master's soul from his body for love making time", "the 'english numbers' are actually spelling out extremely lewd sex messages in japanese", "Mauro accidentally called Raikon a drug addict bum when she got powered up", etc.
Also the latter has become even funnier to me since that anniversary event, because I think in hindsight it was meant to be a reference to the very first time Raikon appeared in the story, where she actually WAS trying to buy drugs from a shady dealer in an earlier event under the belief that they'd fix her self-image issues with her arms only to realize she was getting scammed when they got exposed as poachers and she subsequently went berserk at them. I'm not into lolis, but I think those two are still pretty entertaining characters to watch anyway.

Do you still want me to post the translation efforts I've done for the first five chapters, or are you happy enough with what you've got now?

>>1954294
>Do you still want me to post the translation efforts I've done for the first five chapters
Would be great for sure and thank you very much for your hard work with the translations.

>>1954410
You're welcome anon. Though I'm not sure if I'd go that far yet; I'm not the one who's posting the summaries in the threads, and while I have translated some gags like that there's some that don't really carry over well.

I'll consider it hard work when I finally get around to re-writing all of Okyuu's dialogue to be properly filled with brooklynisms due to that being fucking kino the best possible way to translate her gloriously thick kansai accent.

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Ok so I finished combing through Chapter 1 to correct all the leftover spelling mistakes and name inconsistencies and while I missed a couple of the optional choices the main story as a whole is still intact so I went to upload it, but APPARENTLY pastebin has spontaneously developed "standards" between the prologue and now and told me to go fuck myself.
I set it to "Unlisted" because private is blurred out and unusable, and I'm not sure if a second attempt will ban me or something because I've never even heard of this happening before, but regardless of what it specifically was it's refusing to allow me to upload the transcript and given what happens in some of the later chapters it's pretty likely that it's gonna ban all of those too. So I guess it's just the prologue then.
Sorry anon. Not much I can do here really.

https://litter.catbox.moe/2rfai07frn7udvg0.zip

I think I managed to datamine parts of the story scripts? I couldn't translate the ingame text so I pivoted to datamining the game and I think I had far more success with this. The file is on a 12 hour timer but should hopefully be enough for anons to grab the files and check them.
There's still like 90k json files to go through so if this isn't enough then let me know and I'll continue searching.

>>1954483
Your issue is simple, you used Pastebin. Pastebin automatically flags any suspicious paste with pretty strict filters which is why most generals of this site switched to using rentry. Just make sure you're using the org version of the site because the co version of the site will get flagged as spam by 4chan.

>>1954525
alright, well i never knew pastebin had issues like that beforehand but i guess i had to learn at some point. thanks anon.

while you're datamining do you have the ability to find any of the girl's cgs? or at least the assets for them? I know some of them are flat pictures but others get reassembled to make them move.

>>1954540
Yeah I got everything. I couldn't specifically find what I wanted in the viewer when I was looking for the story scripts and I extracted everything which includes the images.
I have no idea how to make them move if they aren't already moving though, I just extracted them as a side product in my quest for the story text.

oh neat, would you be willing to dump those too?
I don't really care about the movement, all I want is the stills; I just want to mod some of the girls into something and need their stills for that and none of them have good renders that are as high quality as what's in the game (much less without their backgrounds), especially Okyuu who always looks too blurred compared to how she actually is.

>>1954553
https://transfer.it/t/X6EEmi5hmJaK
I hope this works? I'll delete the file in a day or two

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>>1954568
YES THANK YOU ANON YOU HAVE DONE GODS WORK FINALLY
>Most girls are actually fully assembled contrary to what I was told, and are almost entirely contained into a single file, sometimes two
>Okyuu takes up four because she's so based and three of those are just her details
I'll get right on what I'm doing but holy shit thank you so much man I really can't thank you enough
If you have any monster girl who's your favorite in-so-far as you've played at this point name her and I'll put her on my to-do list if she isn't there already, that's really the least I can do granted time may vary Aqua took me a little over two months to finish but some of them didn't take too long at least

>>1954593
huh, oddly enough Aqua seems to be missing from this. Maybe it's because you don't have her? But I know she does appear in at least a couple of the other events in the archive. There's actually not that many girls in here as I expected, though I am very grateful Okyuu is. It's definitely an extremely important start at least. So thanks.

>>1954598
I actually don't have Okyuu. I don't have many LRs really, I barely have enough to fill a team. Who's in there or isn't in there seems completely arbitrary so it's out of my power if someone's in there or not.
If the Android version of the game uses unity too then I might try datamining that instead since the PC versions hide files in mysterious places that I have no idea about while the android version can only place folders in very specific spots.
It could also be like old games where it only partially downloads files and stuff while it only does a full download when told specifically to do a full download or when you obtain that character.

Alternatively, I could simply post the steps on how I managed to get the images because I've been learning how to do these things for the sole purpose of trying to translate the game. The knowledge of how to do so would also help me in the future and I haven't had much to do lately so this gives me a fun way to pick up a new skill.

Step1:
Download AssetStudioMod
https://github.com/aelurum/AssetStudio/releases/tag/v0.19.0

AssetRipper exists too but I found it harder to use so downloading the GUI version of AssetStudio should be easier to use.

Step 2:
Open the GUI exe and point it at your game folder which should be called "mnms_td_r18". On PC, it's installed by default at your user folder. So if your user is called "Anonymous" then the directory you're looking for is C:\Users\Anonymous\
If pointing it at root doesn't work then point it at the data folder found inside the game folder.

Step 3:
Wait until it loads. Tell it to show everything or select everything then do Export -> All Assets.

Wait a while since it's processing every single thing in the folder and it's a large amount of files it has to go through. Once it's done, you'll have a full dump of the game files on your PC.

>>1954609
i can feel myself getting confused already, but would this even work with the browser version of the game? that's the only version I've ever gotten to work, and I wasn't able to find the file specified when I went to search for it. I'm assuming this is being written with the DMM Launcher or android versions in mind.

And since I've just been assuming you're >>1952047 I figured you didn't have Okyuu, and that was why those girls were in there, and I'm assuming Lulu and Okyuu are in your files because you happened to play or watch something that featured them, or just looked at them perhaps. That's the best explanation I can think of anyways.

>>1954634
It is for sure being written for the PC dmm version of the game.
Remember you absolutely need a Japanese VPN to even open the DMM games launcher so I'd suggest a solution like
https://gist.github.com/tilda/d52a8c7fa3f161de6cc45bbd2a1cbeec
and keep it on at all times while DMM games is on. Once your DMM game of choice properly loads then you can turn it off.

It wouldn't work with the Browser version because it works completely differently and I haven't verified if it works on the mobile versions of the game yet.

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also I want to ask if these got used anywhere because there's a handful of drawings of Master with funny expressions that aren't as detailed that seem like they were cut for something

So, anyone got any newbie guidance?

Like game goals, stuff to be pushing, things to be working on and so on that isn't just reading the story?

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what now

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>>1955613
Sure! My to-do list when I started was
>Progress through the story
>Beat the event archive
>Level Up Best(Favorite) Girls
>Clear Boss Challenges (Very Fun)
>Delve into the Labrynth
>Beat Labrynth Missions (if you clear the level with a specific restriction you will get a slab to craft a special sub-skill, ranging from tier IV versions of the normal ones to unique and very strong abilities)
>Clear challenge stages
>And of course: spend time with Best(Favorite) Girl(s)

At this point I have also been going back and re-playing both chapters and events that I already cleared in order to translate them properly at this point since it's pretty fun to do that and also relaxing to have my preferred team just breeze through something. The stories are fun enough that I think it's enjoyable to simply read them again for that.
Don't feel the need to rush though, you can burn yourself out too easily. Once you've accomplished everything there's not much else to do but either read/translate stuff you've not done yet, refight stuff you found fun or just wait for the next event. But I think that's true for most games like this anyway.

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Oh also thank you Okyuu for blessing my rolls, I pulled the girl I was most interested in from the collab, she was the best part of that archive event besides the gags with the bear trio lol

>>1955628
Any suggestions on how to properly use stuff like Transcendent tickets? There's a stage for every mat with these tickets. And how hard is it to get more of these?

>>1955625
whats the final veredict on Mahamut and Higanbana after the bugfix patch anyway?

>>1955632
Twinkle bad, Flower Knight good

>>1955631
Oh the EX Tickets?
I save those up for when I either need Gold or EXP to help level up a Monster Girl. I usually use them for gold, but since the EXP one got upgraded it's been worthwhile to use it on that sometimes if I really need to. But in general I think the gold is the best one. If you're really hurting for those cubes that upgrade the E/L Girl's skills though then using one to get six of those cubes is pretty reasonable enough.

>>1955631
Hold until half anni when they run drop bonus.
If you're desperate then EXP > Gold in efficiency. If you're extremely desperate then whichever you need at that moment or else you can't win.
Although at that point just use your Friendly neighborhood Chupina.

>>1955648
>Hold until half anni when they run drop bonus.
Whens that?

>>1955648
isnt the next one the actual anniversary

>>1955648
Winning with your girl > using chupina
Unless your girl is also chupina

>>1955677
What if you don't have a girl yet and crave overwhelming power on par with the latest Aigis hero units?

Are the other two collab units worth rolling for to finish a spark (40 rolls which means me depleting fate episodes to get them)
Uhh the twinkle loli and the other one

>>1955682
isnt there two twinkle lolis and two flower knights? you'd have to be more specific

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Talking about Aigis hero units, I was surprised to see Lapis in the list of characters but is this Sylvia?

>>1955682

>>1955638

>>1955695
This game simply couldn't take the true power of a star knight. They tasted a bit of it and the game broke so hard they had to fix it.

>>1955678
Then find your girl!
But if you really just don’t feel like doing it then putting the level on auto-pilot is probably still fun in its own way. I just always felt like it wasn’t as fun is all. I usually use rentals to try out girls I wanted or liked but didn’t have.
>>1955685
Also have no idea how strong aigis heroes are in general since the game feels easier than TD is, but that’s Lucifer apparently. Agyro does get a cosplay outfit where she dresses up as Sylvia though. Although I’d rather just have Sylvia herself, like I’d rather have Okyuu in aigis than the cosplay (even if it’s kinda neat still).

>>1955698
The father of chaos has noticed the error and corrected it. Only his world gets to have a girl who stacks.

>>1955667
oh right it is

>>1955652
In May

>>1955754
What about the TD fest? Is that going to be soon?

>>1955766
NTA but they'll be after the anniversary most likely.

Huh, I randomly found a solution to the "Text gets cut off" problem Monmosu has.

https://github.com/bbepis/XUnity.AutoTranslator/issues/805

I don't have the coding know-how to implement it but throwing it out there for anyone that does.

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oh my god i cant believe someone leaked the next event in kumafes bros

>>1955629
>look at her home game
>she's actually a HUMAN
>she doesn't look like this at all
>she just spontaneously transformed from a normal human into a fairy dragon when she arrived
>and somehow never noticed
the kuma with the gun did good if it's her fault

Valentine's Merch
>https://www.gamers.co.jp/contents/event_fair/detail.php?id=7258#ec_goods

>>1955631
>>1955613
The coin shop resets weekly, buy out everything but the expensive milk and red keys which are infinite and can be bought whenever you truly need to farm weapon materials.
The cash shop has a small section which gives a free chest once a week which can give gems so don't forget to pick it up as well.

Remember to gather ranch milk and gold from the Silva button and do the daily greet thing to all your friends(add people if you haven't, it's one way, so just add whoever). The friendpoint shop resets monthly.

For daily play, you only ever farm gold from the dailies and experience/milk from ticket quests. Tickets can also be used for skill mats if you need the cubes specifically. The reason you only ever farm gold from normal dailies is because farming gold and buying the expensive milk from the coin shop is strictly superior to farming milk from the normal farming stages. This reverses with the ticket quests where the ticket milk quest is strictly superior to the ticket gold quest.

So during non-farming events, you spend all your stamina on the gold daily, use 1 silver key, collect dailies, then spend stamina on gold. If there's an event with dailies that reward stamina, then add that amount. If there's a farming event, mostly spend stamina on that until the shop is empty and only do 2 gold quests per day for the daily.

There are periodically generic events which reward currency for a small shop with roll tickets. These shops typically have what the nips have termed trap milk. As in milk that is completely pointless to buy compared to the infinite gold option as buying gold and buying expensive milk in the coin shop is more efficient. So don't buy the milk from those shops and use leftover currency after buying all roll tickets on the infinite gold.

Beast God mats and LB equipment are farmed from main story. Farm LB equipment as you need it, but leave farming Beast God mats to when they halve main story stamina use or boost drop rates.

>>1955678
https://pastebin.com/TNHvR3fh
If you're willing to read a massively bloated pastebin full of one tryhard's(that does play AK and Aigis) opinions and summaries of units that's been going since near launch, I have this.

For a short quick list of overpowered units. You get more detailed breakdowns in the Pastebin. Ephtra is actually fairly gimped here though.

Chupina - Has an instant skill that can reach 0 skill cooldown.
Aran - More powerful here than in Aigis due to several mechanical changes
Phyllis(Asbaal Outfit) - Perma-skill with Asbaal's DP on kill and grants stun immunity to allies.
NY Yano - like Morfessa, but has a 2.85x damage taken multiplier.
Logdanno - Monks in general, but she's one of the best for bombing and doesn't need a Start Charger(paid subskill)
Poison Rin - Giant AoE DoT and massive healing numbers on top.
Promestein - Healer that also has a stacking attack buff on heal.
Kokonoha - The cornerstone of Youkai teams.
Ifijar - Like Angels/Liberators, but can still block outside of skill and one of the best tanks in the game with 50% damage reduction.

>broken paid units
Futanari Idols - Grants -6 second cooldown to melee units.
Water Rakion - DPS that cannot be described and must be experienced to understand.
Nonoa - Instant skill that can reach 0 skill cooldown that also permanently buffs water allies to the point of hitting attack buff cap.
Anniversary Igni - Permanent DoT aura.

>Azep
Azep - has a janky skill that can be repeatedly buffed to integer limit damage. Mainly for cheesing infinite boss challenge.

There's a lot more units I could probably mention, but I can't list all of them.

>>1955922
Holy crap an up to date guide. Yes, this is exactly what I desired. I crave information more than anything and this is excellent. Thank you very much.

Are there any upcoming events or banners to look forward to or save for?

>>1955925
Copypasting a post I made a month ago when somebody asked about how often events and units release.

For the most part when one event ends, another begins. The vast majority are 2 weeks, so 2 a month is fairly accurate, but bigger events can be 3, and rarely we might get non-event weeks because a new story chapter releases.

Every event generally releases with 2 new gacha units, 1 welfare, and sometimes a new paid pack unit. Youkai gachas are an exception which sometimes also release new extra lower rarity youkai.

In regards on what to save for, limiteds are mainly anniversary, youkai, aliens, and collab units. Seasonal units like swimsuits and new year's units are not limited, but NY Ruisha and Yano are limited because they're also youkai. You can bank on anni units to rerun on annis, youkai with new youkai events, aliens with the alien event, and collabs if there's a new collab part.

Regarding collabs, there have been 4 partners so far.
The most common and could be considered not a collab is the DMM TDFestival which is across MMTD, Aigis, and Oshiro Project. As a publisher backed collab, these are pretty regular.
Then there was Kumafes which is a collab across all the dev's games, Flower Knight Girl, Mist Train Girl, Girl's Creation, MMTD, and Twinkle Star Knights. We are currently in the midst of the second one.
Then there's Monster Girl Quest. 3 collabs so far and more are probable.
Sequel was relatively recent and very unexpected as Rabi and Tirma became the first human units in the game. More Sequel collabs are also quite likely.

Regarding what to save for.

Anniversary - Poison Rin and True Vampire Veratu.
Aliens - Chupina and Slayzel.
TDFestival - Aran and Asbaal Phyllis.
MGQ - Promestein.
Youkai/New Year's - NY Yano

Youkai are like the Imperials of this game. I would pick up both Mahamut and Higanbana. Mahamut is still extremely powerful even if her attack speed buff doesn't do silly stacking while Higanbana is a top class DPS.

>>1955935
>Sequel was relatively recent and very unexpected as Rabi and Tirma
Yeah, looking at the wiki I felt like I was getting jumpscared and had to do a double take after seeing Rabi's face in there. MGQ was surprising but thematically expected while Sequel was a large "Huh?"

Also, are there any updates to the Mahamut situation now that they (hopefully?) bugfixed things? Does her final buff type stack or not?

>>1955937
It doesn't. They just managed to fix things. However, it's still the highest normal source of +attack speed% if she's fully awakened at +70% versus the +50% of Pannier and Space Vivi. That is still extremely strong.

If anything, she at least gives you the option of using a different Beast God. She herself is still an extremely strong unit with a full screen AoE and hard hitting ranged AoE attacks.

>>1955940
Thank you. Do you recommend leveling either Mahamut or Higanbana to maximum level? Leveling characters in this game seems very expensive at the current point where I am in the game.
It was also common practice in both Arknights and Aigis to stop at around 30~40 or so after fully promoting or class changing an unit but I'm not sure if there's a similar parallel here or how the system works yet.

>>1955942
Level 120+ is pure luxury. However, you want 1 level 121+(I think there's a 30 level range for borrowing) unit so you can borrow other maxed out units.

In general you'll be sticking to level 90 units at CC3(400k cost) for a while. Mahamut and Higanbana are worth taking to CC4. Maxing out is definitely a labor of love. For budget, CC2 is when units are considered usable as that's when the second subskill slot unlocks. Some classes get more out of class ups than others, so the general rule would be core DPS/blockers higher investment and supports/healers lower.

Hopefully there will be more Sugoroku events soon which give the most gold and exp in the game by far. Though the last one was relatively recent with New Year's.

Also, lower rarity units are vastly less gold to upgrade. This game does not do the weak welfare things. Some of them being strong enough to fit in fully built endgame squads. All the Lycanthropes for example are great when you're starting out.

>>1955954
Very, very helpful. Thank you.
Do you have any suggested event units that are worth picking up or Commons/Rares worth looking at? I've seen some suggestions and articles about it but might as well also ask while I'm at it.

>>1955957
Going by event archive numbers(Torse is the 1st while the collab rerun loli Oshnee is 51 for example).

4. Thiel - Perma stealth Warlock with insanely strong weapon passive that has made her core to all low rarity guides.
8. Tetty - The premier early-game tank. Has extremely massive bulk and regeneration when transformed. Just be wary of stuns which knock units out of skills in this game.
13. Harriela - Has one of the most insane EX2s in the game(you get unit's other EX skills from Ranchiki training events which run ever so often). -80% redeploy reduction during her EX2 for all units including herself. This is more for advanced cheese strats and unneeded for general gameplay, but that should give you the idea of unit power in this game.
23. Maridura - Water squad buff. Water element has the most squad buffs in the game and it literally propels them a step above the other elements once you have enough of them.
27. Swimsuit Periri - Will likely be the first charger you actually use. Chargers being units based around movement damage. Lycanthrope tankiness, permanent skill, and hits things for a lot with easily spammable movement.
29. Latzel - The unit copier in this game. Unfortunately balanced by not being able to be deployed at the same time as the unit she's copying. Also really annoying as she copies a random unit from the first 6 in squad(can be reduced to 5 if she's among the first 6 units). Mainly for copying squad buffs. She'll always hit one if the whole first half of the squad has one.
31. Halloween Lagos - Laser
34. NY Saura - a welfare Shaman. Shamans are just very good when you're starting out.
42. Swimsuit Lotona - Extremely strong blocker for a Lancer. The peak of Lancer before higher rarities all getting ranged damage.
43. Puck - Very strong and disposable CC on a 0 deploy unit.
48. NY Nelly - 0 deploy healer that is also one of the few that can cure petrification.
50. Valentine's Shijime - Near infinite disposable tanks.

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>>1955964
>Unfortunately balanced by not being able to be deployed at the same time as the unit she's copying.
Damn, I miss the unit copying shenanigans in Aigis. I remember they gave a free one and you could just do very funny shit with her because of how wild the kits got in Aigis.

Thank you, I'll aim to get those. Should I be leveling them to 90 after the event gives me them at 70?

>>1955957
>>1955964
Low rarity non-welfares to look at.

Suzu - Extremely scalable with buffs.
Letia - Thiel's sister who also does the perma-stealth off-skill with large buff from weapon thing.
Periri - Lycanthrope Conjurer and is basically most player's first DPS.
Mima - More of a meme strat, but EX2 self-destruct can solo stages as 1 Nip on my friend's list likes to do a lot.
Done/Donay - The only unit in the game with a guaranteed stun if not immune. Stun works on a weird cumulative system in this game and she's the only unit that inflicts it directly as a common healer. Nowadays they're more consistent about making bosses immune outright rather than putting stun resistance at max, but she cheesed a few bosses out of their enrage nukes.
Punema - Water squad buff and decent warlock besides that.
Anisira - the lowest rarity Shaman and very much helps carry early game while also having one of the few sources of skill CD reduction in the game. You can't go wrong with shamans in general.
Anse - one of the few low rarity units with a substantial buffing skill.
Diffnilla, Saura, and Lotona - You'll be investing in your lower rarity Paladins if only for the EX Labyrinth(red key dungeon where weapon mats drop) when you finally get to it. For most defense purposes, low and high rarity Paladins are pretty much interchangeable, so it's not a waste.

Regarding the EX Labyrinth, it has explicit low rarity challenges among its floors, so you can pretty much invest freely in all your rares and commons as there aren't that many of them while also being dirt cheap. There's epic and below floors(E, R, and C) and a few rare and below floors(Just R and C). It's a good way to keep low rarity investment from ever being considered wasteful.

>>1955968
If you intend to CC3 them. There's no real particular stat breakpoints with level, but CCs let you put on the next tier of equipment. If they seem like they could use more stats, then level them.

>>1952607
>>1955964
>two anons recommending hariella now
i guess that redeploy's pretty ridiculous, yeah. you don't always need it but when you need it it's pretty bullshit.

also as an aside since the other two anons have pretty much covered the bases for recommended/suggested girls to use I'm just going to say that as far as labrynth subskills go getting fast charger is one of the first things you should probably aim for since -4 off of initial and reuse skill cooldowns is invaluable and with the right set-ups you can even cause certain girls to auto-activate their skill, like letting the majority of monks pull a budget start charger or turn certain lancers like okyuu into instead cost refund on deploy. the game's definitely at the place where you can choose your own difficulty by restricting your party of girls, but it's nowhere near as broken as the other two td games are yet.

>>1955922
Out of curiosity, pastebin anon, what is your favorite girl?
Design/personality wise, I mean (although if they're just really fun to use that's perfectly respectable to)

>>1955683
Meant the two oldest units, so the ones that aren't Mammut nor the fox

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>>1956195
NTA but I got Oncidium yesterday and she's honestly pretty fun! Her weapon lets her move for no cost, which combined with her class giving her attack buffs after she finishes moving is pretty good, and her skill gives wind allies a huge damage bonus during skill plus she gets a damage buff dependent on her movement speed. I don't think she's broken but she's definitely quite strong and very fun to use.
And also very cute. Her dance is adorable.
>>1955979
Also figured I'd mention that as far as walls go I've actually ended up getting significantly more usage out of Pteria the Hippocampus Girl than I expected to (at least compared to two of those, Rotona's still really strong), so while I agree with you on a lot of stuff I felt like she's worth a mention as well. She's still absurdly durable like the other walls as expected of her class but she's also ridiculously mobile and can easily reposition to just block off different pathways, and her ability to charge without attacking (even though her damage is a pittance compared to a charger like Perili) has also allowed her to avoid OHKO attacks that other walls either got killed by or were unable to escape from due to their slower movement and getting bogged down by attacking mobs. She's been a very pleasant surprise for me, as I didn't expect her to turn out so well and if I'm not using Aqua/Okyuu or Anni!Pelorus at this point it's usually her.

>>1956188
Looks-wise girls on the more loli side and personalitywise girl-failures.
Damstow is unironically one of my favorites along with Rakion and Chupina. Okyu was my preregistration starter and Lagos was my favorite when first playing the game at launch. I love Pinda and Pupiperuza's dynamic as I really enjoy when a girl has to switch to being the tsukkomi/responsible one. Lapinus lowkey being the sensible type also falls under that category. Fetish-wise, consensual choking is one of my holy grails and I love Mealus for it. My favorite design in the game is probably Mezier because I also like piercings along with Yura who's also quite high up for me, but both are sadly on the more forgotten side of things. Outside of monmusu, Eloise/the Trio are also favorites for the reasons stated.

As a guy who's gone over literally every girl in the game, there's a lot of girls I can list honestly. I appreciate most everybody at least and I'm not really the type to dislike anybody as well so I can't say I have a least favorite either.

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>>1956339
I appreciate you talking in-depth about the girls you like, it's always really nice to see. So thanks! You and I have a lot of opposite tastes, but there's nothing wrong with that. I honestly just like monster girl design as a whole, even if I'm not attracted to a lot of them, because I just think they're really fun. I'm not into lolis, but I do think Raikon has an extremely inventive design. I don't think I've ever seen a hecatoncheires girl before and the greek pillar aesthetic is honestly pretty sick with how she pulls it off, she just looks really cool. Yura is also one of the coolest looking girl too, the way they pulled off the Hydra just makes her look awesome and she's always fun to use. So at the very least you're not alone in thinking she's great.
>Okyuu
Absolutely Based; although I admit I never really saw her as a loli so much as a girl with a babyface (although in her moving portrait she does looks totally dwarfed by those tentacles), but she's still easily my favorite Monster Girl in the game by a landslide at this point either way. She's friendly, shockingly sensible, very accomplished and also just hilarious. I'm incredibly grateful I was able to meet her so quickly, judging by how trying to recruit Okyuu seems to be a meme overseas.
There's honestly a lot of really cool or inventive designs I like here though so trying to list anything after her would be a really long list. I usually prefer Harpies, but oddly enough there's not actually that many I got attached to here. I guess I just really prefer it when they have wing-arms, and not both arms and wings? There were some I did like early on but that I got put off of eventually for one reason or another, too. Although I still don't dislike them.


But I do really like Okyuu and Yura. It's really a shame that they're the only two girls that Orihira has done so far, he's a fantastic artist. Hopefully Yura will get an alt of her own.

>>1956339
>Looks-wise girls on the more loli side and personalitywise girl-failures.
You're my brother man. Definitely my favorite type in any game I play, I tend to be easily convinced to pick up any random game if I see a cute loli that pushes my buttons though me sticking with it depends on the game itself.

>>1956339
Also, I've grown to appreciate Damstor for being the sheer fountain of comedy that she is; the shitshows she keeps causing on the wiki's comments sections are fucking hilarious to watch even if one anon was doomposting over them a while back. Even now they still keep bringing her up. Her introduction was also great. Chupina's a good girl too; even if I'm not into her she's pretty nice and I'm glad she got to make friends with the bumbling scientist. Even if I'm not a fan of her space suit, Chupas are just my favorite cryptid, and if there was going to be anything in this game that's comically overpowered it's nice that it's a Chupa. I can't really be surprised at her winning the last poll, since doubtless there's a lot of people who used her to beat things they couldn't have otherwise, and that's always going to endear a character to a playerbase.
>Lapinus
>Sensible
that's the vorpal bunny, right? is she really?
that's honestly really funny to imagine. I would never have guessed that.
>least favorite
you know I've never actually given that thought, there's shockingly very few girls I actively dislike here. almost any nitpick I do have with any given girl is never about the girl herself, it's just a critique about the design. I'd have to actually think about it.

>>1956399
>I tend to be easily convinced to pick up any random game
For me it's Cute Harpy Girls and I'll be willing to try damn near anything so long as the game itself seems like it's fun.

>>1956391
>>1956401
Fun fact, I am the one who got into an argument with you about Chupina's design(from a character and graphical standpoint). I am also the one who shilled this game in /mggg/ during the 3rd MGQ collab and wrote up a list of bird girls for you. I always wondered why your focus shifted to Okyu so much over the harpies and other birdgirls.

Should I be farming either of the currently ongoing events as a new player? The Kumafes one and the other one with the healer girl.

>>1956412
The other event doesn't really have anything to farm, and you won't really get anything out of farming the kumafes one since there isn't a welfare and it didn't restock, so if you already got all the tickets and gear you need, then you don't really need to do it. if you're new though it might be a good idea to get all the gear you can from it, since it'll save you time later.

>>1956412
Star events(clear stages to upgrade welfare) have 0 farming requirements outside of a complete stages 20 times overall by the end of the event which is basically 9 extra skips on the lowest stamina stage or any stage with equipment you might be short on.

Shop events you farm until you get everything you want from the shop out of it.

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>>1956406
I kinda suspected, but never really knew for certain. I did really appreciate you making the list of Cute Harpy Girls however (I kept it for reference), so thank you for that as well anon! I think the discussion over Chupina was amicable enough, or at least I remember it ending amicably enough and you and I understanding the other's point of view. I'd still prefer a "nature's pinnacle of evolution" style chupacabra girl at some point, but even if I don't like how she looks, I do think I've still come to appreciate how ambitious she was for trying to find a way to fuse the two ideas. even if i still think the spear has logistical issues, that's really the only thing that does genuinely bother me about her still at this point lol

>I always wondered why your focus shifted to Okyuu so much
You know it's funny, even though I can pinpoint the exact moment that this started to happen (which was the very first time I met Okyuu, which was EXTREMELY memorable and fucking hysterical, pic related) I'm still kind of surprised that it did. Half of this comes down to just how incredible I ended up finding Okyuu to be and how much she beat the odds by having a lot of things that should freak me out but ending up genuinely lovable and sincere anyways, I could probably go on a while about her.
But even at the time, I think there was already stuff about most of the harpies that was just kinda putting me off a bit about them. I'm not really attracted to most of them, either. And there also ended up being a lot of stuff about Charis that ended up turning me off of her a lot, too. I'm still fond of her, sure, but in a 'that's nice' way to me now I guess, which is strange since she was one of the girls I initially liked the most.
I guess it's complicated, but can roughly boil down to
>I prefer the MGQ Harpies
>Okyuu ended up being the most memorable girl on the island

>>1952047
oh right now that i'm thinking about it you pulled Yura too right? I'd train her up as well she's genuinely pretty solid and helped me out a lot. She's extremely durable, and her base skill allows her to deal a truckload of single-target damage to anything that can be poisoned, and she ended up being pivotal for some of my clears on harder stuff like a couple of the MAX bosses. Her EX II also lets her deal with crowds of enemies and is pretty good in it's own right.

Haven't posted about patching the game in a while because I've been feeling physically out of it lately but here's my progress and solutions in case anyone else was interested or wanted to mess around with it. Gonna take a break from messing around with this myself but here's my findings.

>Problem:
Monmosu's text gets cut off during story which makes it impossible to read
>Solution:
One of the workarounds here
https://github.com/bbepis/XUnity.AutoTranslator/issues/805
Patching the game resources as suggested seems unrealistic so the more realistic suggestion from the thread seems to simply either redirect the text resources as suggested or have the translation already prepared.

If you can intercept the source text with a script and simply output it to clipboard then a lot more solutions for translation open up.

>Problem:
The TL for Monmosu's UI looks -AWFUL-
>Solution:
Sanitize input before sending it to a translator using a pre-processor.
The culprit behind the translation getting mangled is tags like <cspace\=0> getting sent to the translator which causes the translator to see <indent\=-6%><cspace\=-1>リ<cspace\=0>セ<cspace\=-5>ット instead of リセット
The solution seems somewhat easy enough to implement and would vastly improve TL patch quality but I worry that using such a wide net might have unforeseen issues in the games which I don't feel like dealing with at the moment.

Alternatively, another solution would be to just open the game, have the game auto-translate every UI element and then open the file to manually replace the mangled translations to what they should be so the game isn't translating the UI on the fly but simply replacing the untranslated text with the provided translation one.

>>1956439
Auto translating every UI element and then replacing it manually is the simpler method, though it requires you to search up every issue manually which takes a lot of time.

>>1956481
It's around 2k~ text lines from what my text editor tells me if you want to do it that way and not every line is broken or UI related. At least it's an one and done solution since it's not like they're going to overhaul the UI in the future and new stuff could be knocked out in five minutes or less if they add new modes or features.

>>1956490
>>1956481
>>1956439
NTA, but would a tool like grepwin be useful for the replacement part? even if I'm not using the DMM Launcher, that tool's been helpful for correcting things like this in other situations for me, so I figured I'd suggest it in case it'd be helpful here

>>1956495
Not really because the lines get mangled in unpredictable ways so you'd have to first find the messy line that looks like

<indent\=-1.5%><cspace\=-1>レ<cspace\=-0>ベ<cspace\=1>ル<cspace\=0>選択=<indent\=-1.5%><cspace\=-1>Re<cspace\=-0>Be<cspace\=1>le<cspace\=0>choice

This is completely unusable because the translation is worthless and the line is unreadable to man or machine so first you have to make it readable by applying a regex that removes all tags to get

レベル選択=ReBelechoice

Which still makes no sense so you fix it to

レベル選択=Level Selection
or
レベル選択=Lv. Select

But it's still not good enough because the game will be looking for that mess of tags so the end product would end up looking like

<indent\=-1.5%><cspace\=-1>レ<cspace\=-0>ベ<cspace\=1>ル<cspace\=0>選択=Lv. Select

And then it's a constant process of deciphering, translating, formatting, repeat. Very easy stuff that could be done by literally anyone since even a non-Japanese speaker could simply plug it to DeepL or a LLM but it's also extremely tedious and boring work.

>>1956519
>Not really because the lines get mangled in unpredictable ways
that's understandable. I'm not going to benefit from this either way since I play on the browser, I just thought I'd see. Seems it just best done by hand then.
>it's also extremely tedious and boring work
It's true, but trying to work around this would probably cause problems. Sometimes there's no better solution unfortunately.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7heuQfsUmg
Next stage announced

>>1956604
Hopefully Airen gets to have some fun on her isekai adventure. They look like they're teasing her for her outfit in that lol.

>>1956431
nta but if that was your first time seeing her then i can see how being abruptly told 'oh yeah by the way there's this girl who cuts off her legs to deep fry them for her fast food chain' would be a fucking curveball if you hadn't gotten accustomed to the insanity of the island yet so it makes sense it would stand out. i don't think there's anyone who dislikes her. if you care about 'sensible people' (so, has both common sense/backbone and isn't retarded) then there's only a small number of girls that count for that and i dont think any of the bird girls would counter at all except for fermi. even ather kills him in one of her stories and then resurrects him like she didn't get the problem since she has endless revives.

>>1956613
The purple hair girl is their Kuromi-like so she's admiring her choice of outfit.

Any guesses for who will be our second collab partner now that Girls Creation is the first?

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>>1956666
nicewell judging by the wheel I think Flower Knight Girls is the most reasonable guess, but I wonder if there'll be another MMTD Girl who gets to show up in one of these. Since Suzu's getting featured on the splash art and Rin and Kuromi were in the last one, maybe it'd be her? I think she's a safe bet.
>>1956642
Oh neat, that's still kinda funny.
>>1956624
Yeah I
>ather kills him in one of her stories
hey whoa whoa whoa are you talking about Aether the Phoenix Girl? I ended up getting attached to Okyuu as Best Girl and nothing's changing that at this point but Aether was one of the girls I was originally hoping to run into the most and I've been waiting to look at her stuff for when I finally found the 'original' one. Doesn't this game have no actual death in it? Is this something that sounds better in the bizarro context of this setting or just sounds worse than it actually is?

>>1956671
no lol she burns him to death as part of her idol performance and it’s made clear when she brings him back to life that it was an agonizingly painful way to die and he absolutely remembers the experience and understandably is not happy about it. it’s kind of surprising since she’s the first girl and played such a big part in saving him so I never really got why they had her do that. I don’t know if he got killed by anyone else, but that’s the only time I can remember where he just straight up dies.
it’s still pretty funny though. she gets indignant about it.

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>go read it myself
>Atheel (or Aether, or Atelle, I'll go with Atheel for now) asks him to come to the mountain where she's rehearsing so she can consult with him about something
>As a "Phoenix Idol" she wants to promote herself by focusing on how she's a Phoenix
>I love it when Monster Girls are aware of their unique and special talents and actively make use of them for EXACTLY this kind of thing, to do something special that nobody else would be able to do, so that sounds perfectly fine by me
>This is part of why I love Okyuu so much in the first place even for just how brilliantly ingenious her mundane application of all her absurd biology is
>But the problem is that Atheel believes that for the performance they have planned so far, the "Phoenix Girl-ness" (that's how she says it) is still lacking
>So she asks Master what he thinks the #1 Defining Trait of a Phoenix is
>"uh, is it healing?"
>No, it's Reincarnation clearly
>So she wants to work that into her next performance
>"But how?"
>Why I'll light a fire on the stage and rise from the flames a newly reincarnated 'me' of course!
>Since Atheel has done this many times and also keeps her memories every time, there isn't a risk of identity/memory loss, or sense of death
>But Master panics and shoots it down
>Presumably he doesn't know that, so he's just worried he'll lose the Atheel that he knows
>So she decides to rethink it since Master mentioned the healing part
>Which then leads to her deciding to burn and revive him instead
>Atheel is so detached from life and death that she doesn't get why he's freaking out
>WHY DO I HAVE TO BE BURNED AT THE STAKE
>Don't worry Master, I'll be with you!
>THAT'S NOT THE POINT
>There's absolutely no danger!
>I FEEL NOTHING BUT DANGER
>Look, the fire's already ready Master! *points to giant pillar of flame*
>WHEN DID YOU DO THAT?!
>Okay, get in!
>She fucking judo flips him into the pillar of flame
>GYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>HOT HOT HOT
>ATHEEL
>HELP ME ATHEEL
>ATHEEL
>ATHEEEEEEEEEEEEL

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>>1957140
>He subsequently loses consciousness and wakes up in her arms
>But for "some unelaborated reason", they never used this performance

Ok on one hand that's some holy shit levels of bird-brainage right there and I'm pretty shocked that they actually did take it that far, but on the other hand, it's fucking hilarious that they DID take it that far, she's still just as sweet and friendly as the other main Phoenix Girl I know (who also has developed a bizarre perception of mortality from being a phoenix) and the only difference is she doesn't ever kill you, and the only reason Atheel winded up killing him in the first place is because he essentially didn't have faith in her reincarnation ability and Master accidentally talked Atheel into killing him and made her think it was HIS idea and he was just nervous about actually following through on it.

I don't know how I really feel about it as far as it impacting how I see Atheel herself but while I feel kinda bad for him it's kind of his own fault on this one lmao

You guys never questioned why there were so many undead humans on the island before?

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>The Shota Hero shows up yet again, good as new
>curse you Monster Girl Using Boy!
>he has come here for one mission
>to use them to make medicine that makes him taller
>upon hearing those words the Master BEGS him to tell him how to create the medicine and the monster girls have to pry him back like he's being swayed to the path of evil
>>1957245
Not really no. Even putting undead humans aside there's plenty of girls who get introduces either nearby or hiding behind corpses. Undeniably there's a lot of girls who killed people at some point. It's just not normally shown, and everyone who did die is implied to have just been a poacher (or imperial soldier) so it just kinda never really stands out that much I guess.

>>1957246
If there's a thing that I don't like about this game then it's that I wish the MC was a normal dude and not a shota

>>1957247
>I wish the MC was a normal dude and not a shota
Honestly I agree, kinda wish the same. I think the scenes I like the most have him more out of focus or obscured in some way so that it's not really noticeable and he looks more 'normal'.

>>1957254
Yeah the scenes where you can clearly see that he's just a little guy feel really off-putting while the best ones are the ones where you can't really tell

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don't worry guys I've got a solution
>Okyuu used talk!
>Okyuu used bribe!
>Okyuu used negotiate!

>>1956671
What if they do port out Suzu to something like TSK but isekai magic makes her human so she fits with the rest of the characters>

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>>1957259
The Master has mastered strategy, but can he master the art of the deal?! Now he's joined our side, and everyone gets what they want!
I'm not sure if this was exactly what he had in mind, but he seems happy enough so it's fine right?

>>1957261
That'd be genuinely kino, Suzu suddenly returning to being a normal human for a period of time would honestly be a really cool idea. It also kind of pairs with Oncidium turning from a human into a Monster Girl when she arrived as well.

Ended up dickrolling for Lapurum
I am weak

Diphora is one of the monmusus that give him a grim reminder that even the monster girls that can act "normal" are still monsters.
Also implies he's been cursed/blessed to be immune to aging even through magic chemicals maybe?

>>1957266
You're not weak anon. I spent an entire spark's worth of gems on just getting Okyuu duplicates to power her up solely because I like her that much. Sometimes the heart just wants what it wants. May you find your adorable vorpal bunny girl.
>>1957268
Yeah, his extreme caution makes a lot of sense given how some things turn out.
On the subject of that though, honestly I don't really know what the answer is either, but when you take into account that "Shota Matter" is an actual quantifiable elemental force in this world with real tangible effects that Lico has dedicated herself to the research of, and Master's shotamatter energy levels are powerful enough to exorcise demons (which I think has happened at least twice) I've come to assume the reason is because he's just possessed of such potent divine shota energy particles that he's basically immune to all manner of dark and/or unholy things. He can't be cursed by the tablet or by Diforia because he's simply too pure.

>>1957271
The vorpal bunny girl is Lapinus

>>1957272
o-oh......i thought that was just a different possible way to read the name until i checked the spelling.....sorry anon
which one is lapurum again?

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>>1957275
>I even remembered her specifically for being the Dwarf-In-The-Flask Homunculus who became an avid researcher for the effects of chocolate on the body and for her starring role in the previous year's Valentine's Event with the chocolate meteors
>Even talked about her in a prior thread when I managed to somehow randomly luck pull her out of nowhere, because the idea of a genuine chocologist is intrinsically hilarious to me
>I still somehow forgot her fucking name
bird brained please understand

>>1957277
>trust me I need to eat all of this chocolate, it's for my job

>Wanted to use dragon girl on only dragons can sortie stage
>Type: Visitor
t-thanks

Ok I remember her name now, it's Laplum, a play on 'la plume' for a writing quill, because she's a researcher.

It's related to birds, so I can remember it!

>>1957281
collab characters dont get to count as anything; prior to this one they didn't even have the visitor tag and it was just nothing
alas

Vivi's throwing out italian words like it's gonna appeal to me....
....buono

>>1957246
wasn't this guy turned into a giant dildo or something
i thought he and the other guy got hard bad ended and just weren't gonna show up again

Does this game do paid only units often?

>>1957312
Some of those dungeons definitely seem like they're meant to happen, because they get referenced directly multiple times, but others are completely ignored and even the same characters meeting each other again elicits zero reaction. I think they just pick and choose what they want to keep.

>>1957323
paid costumes for pre-existing ones are more common

>>1957347
Was thinking of collecting all versions of a character but then saw one of them is paid only and got sad

>>1957382
>Was thinking of collecting all versions of a character but then saw one of them is paid only and got sad
God knows I know the feeling anon, I'm assuming a lot of us do. I'm praying that if any of my favorite girls ever get anything alt in the future my one and only wish is that it's not paygated, I don't care what it is, I will take literally ANYTHING but please just do not make it paid.

>>1957382
>>1957389
Going to get a super meta unit of your favorite with excellent scenes but is gated behind a FKG style paid gacha

>>1957406
AIE NO VIVI DISCIPLINE HIM

man I want to be disciplined by vivi if you get what I mean

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>>1957413

>as we head to where the poachers were reported, MC is surprised Fris is also in this group
>she just found out it was for chocolate making so it seemed like a good opportunity, she also dressed up, how do I look?
>fluffy and cute!
>hehehe, it was worth dressing up
>the rest of the girls start fishing for compliments for their outfits
>MC says he did notice, it's just he was caught up in what was happening
>also he worries about staring too much being rude
>there's no way it'd be rude, we dress up because we want you to look, please praise me as much as you want
>as the monmusu happily hang around the relaxing MC, Vivi asks if Yuil is not going to join in
>she feels she'd turn to stone from getting to embarrassed
>Vivi encourages her nonetheless
>we find a usual poacher(shota hero) picking Chocoleaf
>why are poachers targeting Chocoleaf
>it isn't because girls won't give them chocolates so they must make it themselves for their own consolation!?
>the shota hero says even he has one or two girls who'd give him chocolates
>he's sure...
>if he just asks...
>don't look at me with such pity!
>anyways, we have a reason, these leaves have the side effect of growing people
>with that we could make a medicine to make people taller
>MC is entranced by the thought and asks how, seriously desiring height
>the monmusu however scold him back
>anyways, we must not let the Chocoleaf fall to the poachers
>the shota hero is warded off, but declares he won't give up on his dream of becoming taller as he runs away
>Chocoleaf harvested, not we have enough for about an eyeball's worth
>it seems this sort of terminology is common in Liddell's world
>Lapinus notes this still isn't enough as she desires enough for a more "splashy" amount as she mimes a gruesome scene
>it isn't so off to find more

>as Lapinus frolics in our search for Chocoleaf
>we find another usual poacher(male swordsman) who is aghast after a sudden beheading attempt
>he calls us cowards with no sense of chivalry at the assassination attempt
>Lapinus is like that with everybody, we're all under the same threat of beheading, so I don't get calling us cowards
>the male swordsman at least demands back the Chocoleaf he was gathering
>this was planted by us, also this island doesn't belong to you
>poachers deserve nothing, not even a single blade of grass, so let us repel them
>yes!
>also Lapinus, please don't act on your own
>...okay...
>the swordsman calls for his men to protect their necks as they won't be able to taste chocolate without their heads
>Yuil is amazed that they would be so desperate for chocolate
>Vivi notes in the human world, it seems a man's value is tied to how much Valentine's chocolate they receive and that pride can outweigh one's life
>Lapinus they still ran off before she could behead them, abandoning the Chocoleaf as well
>well even if you have pride, in the end, you can only exist with life
>MC thinks it a bit sad
>however everybody else sees through him and the fact he still wants to be taller
>everybody does their best to dissuade him from unnatural growth
>he gets it... he'll give up...
>that's the spirit, anyways onto the last gathering spot

>we find the poachers who just ran from us at the last cultivation site
>like pigs searching for truffles!
>the shota hero yells he's a human
>Yuil is a bit shocked at the response, she did mean it as a compliment, humans are difficult to deal with...
>leaving aside Yuil's choice of words, it seems they're prepared to go all-out
>this is the last planting site, so there's no choice but to work hard here if they really want Chocoleaf
>the male swordsman says it's also an opportunity to grab all the Chocoleaf we've gathered as well in one fell swoop
>in that way, we could say we received chocolate from a girl!
>he's saying strange things
>because they're poachers
>Lapinus makes fun of them
>don't make fun of us!
>Yuil asks why's he saying that to her
>Fris surmises it's probably because he finds Lapinus too scary to talk to
>...I'm not scared! I'm a hero!
>then your head will be the first I'll cut~
>I'm sorry!! Please forgive me!!!!!
>the male swordsman tells the shota hero to not get caught up in their pace
>anyways, even if your head gets cut off, you can revive with Valentine's Chocolate
>it can do that!?
>the hero regains his composure
>this sword is for justice!
>is plundering justice?
>well, they say even evil has its own justice... well I don't really know though
>Yuil declares she'll finally be able to make chocolate after this while accidentally biting her tongue

>as the Hero and Swordsman's passion for chocolate is defeated, MC is called the most deranged pervert after the bout
>as MC explains the normal and logical reasons we're defending the Chocoleaf, the swordsman goes just what I'd expect such a pervert to say, well, he knows when to bow out and accepts defeat in the face of MC's passion
>the hero and swordsman coolly leave in a way that leaves the group feeling defeated somehow
>are they expecting consolation chocolate or something
>anyways, we now have enough to make as much chocolate as we want
>was there that much in the last spot!?
>it's like the final question being worth a billion points
>makes sense the poachers would focus their efforts here
>anyways now to make chocolate
>MC too
>Lapinus was hoping he would forget so she'd have a reason to behead him
>at the cafeteria, everybody makes their chocolate, along with MC, and we show them off
>Tikka made a chocolate clock
>meant to be enjoyed as it melts, you can't be late while eating it
>with contrast between solid and melted, a fun dish, truly delicious(specifically "buono", the Italian word for good loanworded to Japanese to mean delicious)

>Lapinus made a chocolate knife
>its motto/inscription is to rip it to shreds from the back of your throat
>bitter, but surprisingly delicate craftsmanship, combining practicality and flavor, that's also delicious
>Fris went the opposite route from Tikka, freezing hers to make an unmelting chocolate popsicle
>ooh, ice cream that doesn't melt, that way you can eat it slowly without it getting on your clothes, that thoughtful consideration, nothing short of delicious
>Urunella is up next, she made chocolate to increase bloodflow by combining chocolate and liver
>chocolate sauces go well with meat dishes
>this dish is highly practical, taking advantage of the properties of Chocoleaf
>is there any other word to describe this other than delicious?
>MC thinks Vivi's been in a weird mood for a while now
>Liddell offers her simple chocolate
>Vivi notes she tends to be wary of things from Liddell, but they went simple this time, this contrast, this security, it is delicious
>Yuil and MC are left, sensing Yuil's hesitation, MC steps up
>he also went simple and it's similar to Liddell's, a simple regular chocolate
>Yuil is in shock because she did the same thing and apologizes for the triple overlap
>it's nothing to be sad about
>of course unique things are good, but so can simple things be
>classics are classics
>in any case this isn't a competition
>all is good and all is delicious
>Tikka says didn't Vivi create that sort of atmosphere before quickly realizing she shouldn't have said that while taking back her words
>Yuil finally asks MC if he wants to eat her chocolate
>of course!
>to tell you the truth I haven't been able to resist the smell for a while now and I've been wanting to eat Yuil's chocolate
>wanting to eat me!?
>Petrification noises
>as Tikka tells him he's in the wrong and Lapinus asks he eat her too, we fade to black and everybody, especially MC enjoys the chocolate we made together and have the happiest Valentine's day

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>>1957636
>Proof of Friendship
So, that's the REAL reason they were recruited after all!

If you ever wonder why there's inconsistencies it's because there are multiple writers. Apparently this event was written by the main story writer because there was more long narration text that goes into detail.

>>1957885
I thought them having multiple writers was obvious, that just happens with a lot of stuff. the main story writer's definitely the best one though.

>>1951350
>chocolate rain
can't believe this ancient meme made it to japan and now I'm reading about it decades later

>>1959334
it was in the previous valentine's event; to be fair the chocolate rain is from all the fragments of the chocolate meteors that melted in entry
the fact it drives everyone insane may or may not be related

next event is the 12 Ranchiki Festival; wonder who they'll buff

>>1959944
when is that starting?

>>1960381
monday/tuesday (in japan); keep in mind the time difference.

I'm hoping for a Girtablullu, just please be a cool part-bird girl

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>>1960548
>She's not a Girtablullu based on the bird-scorpion iconography of them
>She's instead the Mushussu, which is a different Mesopotamian Monster, which has a snake-tail
They cut it off so I can't tell if her tail is bladed or has a stinger yet, but the silhouette definitely looked like a scorpion's tail and it's odd if they gave it one since the Mushussu is supposed to be very serpentine and had a distinct snake-like tail or just an outright snake as the tail. I can't tell if she has wings either, or if that's just her clothes. Either way, I guess I was close? I'll probably pass and keep saving though.

Do birds lay eggs?

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>>1961016
>t.

>>1961025
Think about it
They have humanoid bodies so do they give birth like humans or do they lay eggs to reproduce?

>>1961016
>>1961039
You know humorously I've had this conversation at least two times before, but while the Harpies involved in those discussions simply told and informed you that they laid eggs, for some (rather bizarre) reason on the island they actually have numerous scenes where the focus is on the harpy or bird girl laying an egg or multiple eggs. I was bemused the first time it happened since it played out more like a doctor helping a patient with a medical issue (egg is stuck, I need help to get it out) but then by the third or fourth time it turned out to be the direction that a scene involving a bird girl was going in I was just baffled that they were so many of them and almost all of them had an identical set-up. whoever wrote the end of Perili's second scene should get smacked by her watermelon-exploding club, it was needlessly mean. Poor girl. It's not even erotic, or at least not any of the times they did it. It's a bit of an awkward mood killer for one scene I did like and then a weird physical examination for the others. Like some kind of episode of Monmusu MD.

If you're curious about the logistics specifically, then just remember Ostriches exist. Ostriches are HUGE, the largest extant birds, and yet Ostrich chicks on average hatch only ten inches tall before rapidly growing in size over their first couple of years. Ostrich eggs, the largest extant egg among birds, are also the smallest egg-to-bird size ratio as they're roughly the size of an open hand.
Given adult Ostriches are generally larger than the average adult Harpy is often depicted at, since Harpies need to be relatively lightweight in order to fly, I've always believed that Harpy Eggs would generally be smaller than an Ostrich Egg, and if it's smaller than an Ostrich Egg then it's reasonable to see how one would be able to lay them.
the egg sizes here are inconsistent at best and make no sense though, which also bothers me about them.

Are there still normal animals in the island? Such as actual cows or real chicken instead of cowgirls and chicken girls

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>>1961064
well "weird" isn't quite right maybe; I found Fermi's first scene to be intriguing and interesting, but for absolutely ZERO reasons related to sexual action or eroticism. I genuinely just like Monster Girl biology, so the whole thing playing out like a medical tape on her Harpy biology was just kind of enjoyable purely for the study of it, and not it being like some kind of sex thing. It's also the only one I feel like did the "egg laying" part in a way that didn't look really awkward somehow.

Actually now that I'm thinking about it, I think part of the reason so many of these look awkward to me is, in a way, related to at least one of the reason why I ended up not really getting that invested in a lot of the 'bird girls'; I think they just didn't really give enough bird traits to them. Almost all of them have human arms and then wings on the back or sides, which kind of detracts from the Harpy/Bird-aspect and often makes them cluttered; I can only really recall Atheel Waemawa and Fermi (and the simurgh i can't remember the name of) having actual wing arms that didn't look like cosplay.
A lot of them also lack a lot of feathers, and almost all of them have completely bare (literal chicken) legs devoid of any covering, to the point it makes the girl look oddly naked and the talons out of place, like they're just on a shaved stump that abruptly narrows down into the bird part. Some of them don't even look like they have an actual bird leg; the "talon" is drawn more like a decorative shoe at the end of a normal un-scaled human leg. And some of them don't even have talons at all! They just have full human legs, and at that point when you're without feathers or talons or etc then that's just a human girl with wings on her back like a serial number was filed off. Fermi's one of the only ones who actually HAS bird legs with feathers on them, but she still barely has any leg feathers.

>>1961097
Yeah that's probably part of it at least, I tend to only really get attached to girls I get early on and then get invested in, but even then I got summer Atheel early on and yet I never really got that invested or attached to her. I wonder why. Maybe she just didn't feel that memorable?
Or maybe I like Harpies so much that my standards have just been set really high at this point.
Hmmm. I still like a large number of the Harpy/Bird-Girls, at least. I guess it's just one of a few reasons.
>>1961093
They have Holsteins, remember? They're cows, they're even named after one of the most famous dairy breeds. it's implied they either eat or molest people but it's dropped in a single line and then deliberately never brought up again as a joke. They're also shown to have chickens and other normal animals, and some fantastical animals (dogs/cats/snakes/birds/crabs/sharks/etc).

man it feels like this valentines banner has lasted for fucking ever
I want to roll for a new girl already

The kumafes girls seem to have made my newbie experience too easy in this game.
Pressing Mahamut active solves like 99% of the maps I've played so far since now the entire map is just gone and Higanbana shreds whatever is left. Mahamut's iron balls also hit for a ton and honestly the rest of my box of characters feels bad compared to these two.

>>1960873
What in the world is a Mushussu?

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>>1961344
In a lot of games, Collaboration Characters tend to be a lot more powerful than the usual balance, and I've seen a lot of people prior complaining that they feel like a lot of the collaboration characters have started to outshine the island's own residents. So it's very understandable if that ended up being the case. You could always bench one or both of them if you want to, and see if you enjoy it more that way. I think the early game isn't too difficult, but some of the later stuff can be really enjoyable and fun challenge if you tackle it the way the devs had intended you to, and it's honestly a lot more fun and intricate than I ever expected it to be.
>>1961488
The Mushussu (as it's an individual), is a babylonian dragon vanquished by Marduk (the patron being worshipped in babylon) who thereafter became his servant and a symbol for him in general. It's a pretty bizarre amalgamation of various stitched together body parts; it has the forearms of a lion, the hindlegs of an eagle, a long neck and elongated snake-like head with two curved horns wearing either a crest or crown, and a lithe serpentine tail that either tapers into a point or is simply another snake. It's main body is scaled (apparently sometimes described as "the torso of a fish"), and some depictions occasionally showed it as having bird-like wings as well.

>>1961667
>You could always bench one or both of them if you want to, and see if you enjoy it more that way
It's less that it makes the game not fun and more that I worry about the future since this is going to be the measuring stick I'll be using for future units going forward.

Also, when can I expect reruns for certain characters? I like Lulu's design a lot and she's fun to play too so I'd love to roll for her but no idea when they rerun certain characters.

>>1961344
Power creep has been going wild lately.
Nonoa and Mamu feels like they're about to bring in the age of Ephtra here

>>1961679
>the age of Ephtra here
whats that

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>>1961667
ok well actually a quick addendum to that
>a lot of overseas* players prior complaining on it's wiki*
I think there's only one or two anons in these threads who actually care to that extent, but I definitely saw a lot of japanese fans bemoaning how they felt like the girls they cared about were being 'replaced'. granted on one hand around the time I saw most of those comments they later on made Anniversary!Raikon who's the single strongest character in the game, but on the other hand she's also cash gated while the majority of worthwhile collab characters just have to be rolled for. I still think there's plenty of OG Girls who have plenty of strength and fighting power to stand out at least. Okyuu's basically solo'd several bosses at this point, and in three cases was literally the sole individual delivering DPS to them and she's pretty awesome.

>>1961673
>It's less that it makes the game not fun and more that I worry about the future since this is going to be the measuring stick I'll be using for future units going forward.
In all fairness besides the "I want the resident/past characters to not get made obsolete by limited time collabs" point that's the other main complaint I generally see regarding them, but that one isn't limited to collaboration characters either, it's been coming up for newer girls in general. So it's understandable to have that kind of worry, yeah.
>when can I expect reruns for certain characters
I asked the same thing when I first joined and I'll just tell you what I was told in turn, which is "No idea, old characters don't get reruns very often nowdays". All of the OG Girls who I grew to love and really really wanted I ended up luck pulling with based kraken riggingthe Heart of the Monster Girls, except for Atheel who I still haven't gotten. Of those girls the only one who had a rerun was Okyuu herself as part of a group banner a while back.

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>>1961685
>I asked the same thing when I first joined and I'll just tell you what I was told in turn, which is "No idea, old characters don't get reruns very often nowdays"
That's a shame, I wanted to roll for the magical girl Lulu because she's cute and I think it's funny that she gets a gigantic laser that spans the entire screen. I saw that she has a more recent warrior version but it's both paid and it feels worse to use.

>>1961679
Yeah. Hilariously it's actually Nonoa and not Anni!Raikon I seen most commonly complained about for that despite Nonoa just being broken for her ridiculous buffing, to the point I've seen at least five different users who confessed that they decided to just perma-bench her because they thought she made everything too easy. I've even seen some lamenting that the game is "solved" because of these overpowered characters.
Even though, you know, you could just NOT buy them. Since those two are cashgated, after all. I hope no girl I like gets cashgated or given something broken to that degree but you still aren't required to use them. You can always just stick to the more balanced girls.
>>1961673
Oh right, I think it's important to ask which one of Lulu's costumes you're talking about now that I think about it.
The Original Lulu falls into the "will get a rerun once in a blue moon" category, but if you're referring to the magical girl version of her that shoots laser beams then that's her school costume, and that one gets periodically rerun when they rerun school stuff, so you'll have a better chance of being able to find her without needing to hope and pray on luck-pulling her. I managed to luck into the original one at least. I'm not attracted to her, but I do think she's a very cute carbuncle. She's also just a neat healer, too.

>>1961690
>magical girl Lulu
Ok good to clear that up, you'll be more likely to find her at least compared to the original Lulu, since she'll get rerun whenever they rerun the other school alts. It's like how SS!Okyuu is more easily obtainable than the original Okyuu is, because she's always rerun with the summer batches. I guess appropriately both of them are also stronger than the original versions as well since they're both incredible DPS, even if their original selves are still pretty solid in their own ways.
>>1961680
I think he's referring to how MW Aigis got powercrept to oblivion; having played Aigis he's not kidding either as I only started at the end of last month and already got to the endgame content and it's still pretty much a cakewalk to clear them.

>>1961690
>paid and feels worse to use.
it's just not fair, man

>>1961692
>>1961685
The skill disparity between units feels weird honestly. You have characters where their skill is stuff like "Increase attack and HP for X seconds and maybe increase attack speed" that feel very vanilla then there's other units that suddenly turn into multi-hitters, deal AOE damage, get a stat boost, a massive range increase and some other good stuff buff thrown on top all in one skill.
It's like they decided some units aren't allowed to be good while others get literally everything.

>>1961697
Paid + Broken might be even worse since you'd feel bad at being locked out of a fun version of your favorite.

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>>1961701
I think that's just an unavoidable consequence of the game by design having to add new characters and older characters being balanced with a lower scale in mind. It's not even just their skills, this extends to the traits. In general this just happens in any game that goes on for long enough. Some examples are more extreme than others, but after a certain point the criteria for creation just shifts to something radically different from it's origin.
That being said however there's a lot of girls who have seemingly complicated traits or skills that in-practice are actually pretty simple and fun in their own unique ways. And some of those girls are still top tier and incredibly fun to use. But there is an uptrend recently of more and more girls who have trait/skill combinations that instead of just doing one or a few things to give them a niche, they instead do pretty much everything in one.
>>1961703
NTA but I think "Paid" is just painful and unfortunate regardless of how the girl turns out. Especially if you like how the power-up looks.

>>1961710
Yeah, paid is fucked either way but paid+good makes you sad but feel somewhat tempted to buy while paid+bad makes you just sad.

Also while on the subject of this I figured I'd mention that having actually tried SS!Drifnela's EX II now out of curiosity, it ironically doesn't feel anywhere near as overpowered as it was described to me as, because every time I used her 90% of the enemies just walk through the fire patches while only taking some chip damage off of it; she wasn't even able to deal significant damage to the restoration golems and the flying ones pretty much ignored them entirely, and she got killed pretty quickly when she couldn't deal with the poachers or the flying machines because the actual damage of her arrows themselves just isn't very good. On the maps where I used her, her range wasn't large enough to let her shoot the enemies being blocked at the bottlenecks without getting swiftly killed in retaliation either. When she was able to, she did leave a couple of patches that quickly killed several poachers but she immediately got nailed by the archers and didn't make a big dent in their numbers. SS!Okyuu's new EX II at that time was able to provide the AoE needed to clean out the poacher mob while staying out of their range, and I think I just ended up using Suzu and Monk Bombs to deal with the other side.
So I think she's honestly not as bad of an example of powercreep as some have made her out to be. It just depends on if the map will let her position in a way that lets her set them up at a bottleneck presumably, and otherwise if you can't immobilize enemies during her skill then the only things she can really threaten are enemies that seldom move at all, which is why she just melts the bosses that lack physical resilience. She's not really that broken, she's just extremely powerful in specific situations and niche outside of them.

>>1961711
That's fair, yeah.....alas........

yeah she has a scorpion tail, bizarre. the thing clearly always has a snake tail, so if you're going to go with a hyper-specific chimera I'm not sure why they'd change that part. Maybe they wanted to hybridize the thing with the scorpion-men?

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I really, really love Waemawa's design and outfit, it's pretty peak. She's also hilarious in every scene she's in too. Plus she actually does have the proper bird legs. If she just had some feathers on her legs she'd be perfect but I still really like her either way. If I'd gotten her sooner there's a good chance I'd have gotten attached to her over Okyuu.

But maybe not. Okyuu's just special. Also this game is letting me fulfill the Sea Dweller Only Run I always wanted to do but never actually did and Kansai Kino is exceedingly hard to beat. But Authentic Thunderbirb comes dang close.

Wow, the Chupina machine gun made me turn off the game's audio.

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>Charis finally gets to show up again
>She's trying to imitate the speech mannerisms of all the older girl's teasing behaviors but she can't pull it off
>"Piii...... uh, uhhmmm......!"
>"I, I'm here too......you know~......?"
>It turns out the entire second training match this time isn't (just) for (you); it's actually for Charis herself, because the 'motherly' Monster Girls are trying to teach her how to be seductive and confident

I can't help but feel like this is unusually specific and also oddly directed at me
is it because I stopped finding her attractive despite still really liking her a lot, and continuing to keep her around as one of my favorites? I can't help it her outfit is just a huge turn off. She looks like she's naked and shivering the poor girl, I just want to give her some clothes.

I feel like an asshole now.

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>>1962223
I think Charis is pretty cute and attractive in both her designs. The contrast of the extremely lewd outfit and her shy appearance just makes her more endearing to me, like a shy girl trying too hard to be seductive.