Same. Dunno why they abandoned it so early

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this is now a ken sugimori art thread

>>58846977
Back when Pokemon was about monster RPG, and not furry gay porn franchise

>>58846977
Bunch of shitmons

>>58847849
Dragonite existing proves your statement to be wrong once again

>>58846977
It's cursed seeing the middle stages not being darker colored

>>58846977
Bulbasaur line is so perfect, soul

>>58847849
didn't mind them as much before
but seeing them try to control this board just justifies 4chan's hatred towards them

>>58846977
Squirtle looks kinda out of place

>>58848113
second-best starter after all

>>58847856
The thing is that Dragonite stood out as the heckin good dragon boi but now it's just standard fare

>>58846977
Watercolor is overrated and Sugimori is a hack who ruined the franchise by throwing Masuda under the bus.

>>58853547
next time bait with something more believable

Watercolors were based but you can understand why Sugi changed to more plain styles when you remember that his key art was being used as assets for everything worldwide, and needed to be easy to make out in all kinds of sizes and printing scenarios
Even as early as the TCG's Gym 1 set in 1998, Sugimori had new compositions coming out that used other techniques, digital ink and pencils similar to what you'd see in Gen 3 and 4.
However they kept the watercolor aesthetics in Gen 2 game art likely for consistency, which I like because especially for the Pokemon, it gives the impression of a sketch artist filling out his zukan by hand.

>>58854721
Lmao

>>58853547
TPBP.

>toilet paper best paper
checks out

>>58854721
Nice

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>>58846977

>>58857953
More like makes it look suspicious

>>58854721
kek

you dont have to announce the necroing btw op

Why mods love sharties so much?

>>58863197
Why ESLs always type like this

could it be that all shartoids type in the exact same broken English

>>58854721
is he ok?

>delcatty thread organically reaches over 100 replies in two days
>these are necro’d for weeks barely getting 50
Lololo

>>58847116
fpbp

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>>58847849
It's weird the younger generation forgets that pokemon was originally an RPG.

>zoomers will scapegoat Ivysaur to ruin every Kanto/Gen1 thread now
IP range block South America and India already

Trip on thx

>bumped at the same time as eevee spam
Lolol

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>>58864523
true

>>58866046
It still is an RPG. Even real-time shit like ZA handles like an MMO

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>>58847856
>he finds THIS sexually attractive

>>58846977
Is there a place where I can find high quality scans of these illustrations?

>>58868818
Bulbapedia. Go to a pokemon page and then click on their gallery archive

>>58869761
Luckily Bulbapedia still uses the original files and doesn't convert them to webp

>>58866986
Jeetnigger moment.

>still less organic replies than the newer delcatty thread
Lololol

>>58873290
Based

>>58846977
I can appreciate it now that I'm an adult, but I thought that it looked splotchy and cheap as a kid.

>>58869761
mega thanks anon

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>>58868716
>fanart
Lmao

>>58846977
All looks like fucking garbage I can't believe how this shit became popular

>>58846977
probably didn't have a sanskrit translation back then

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>>58855622
>Even as early as the TCG's Gym 1 set in 1998, Sugimori had new compositions coming out that used other techniques, digital ink and pencils similar to what you'd see in Gen 3 and 4.
Yeah, people tend to forget this

>>58847116
Hyper fpbp

>>58878619
Gym heroes and challenge are the single 2 best card sets in history

>>58877384
>need to keep track of 100 HP or so
I thought pokeyman was supposed to be kiddy compared to magic the pozzening

>>58869761
giga thanks anon

>>58866046
??? why, what is it now

>>58847116
Ultra fpbp

>>58846977
Why don't you learn making watercolor art yourself? That's what I've been doing

>>58880794
My man that card is old enough to vote and have kids. You should see the shit that modern cards look like if you think thats complicated in any way

It’d be really cool if they brought back this style for a generation. The want is obviously there from general audiences since everyone spazzes out over “fat pikachu”.

Don’t have my hopes up though, each generation since ruby/sapphire seems to get lazier and lazier

>>58885205
I suppose

what's the best place to browse through scans of old gen 1 - 2 sugimori art from the ganes / TCG? I know you can find some stuff on Bulbapedia but I'm talking more like promo art, not individual species artwork

I'm putting PokeMMO on my portable and I want nice boxart but all the fan boxart from launchbox sucks ass so i want to make my own

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>>58880794
You have no idea.

>>58877384
this isn't attractive whatsoever

>>58880794
>100 HP
That's only 10 damage markers. Surely you can count to 10.

>>58846977
I don't suppose you have an archive where I can find this style of art?

>>58847803
What happened to Tyranitar?

>>58847116
I guess the Sharty raided this post since it's deleted.

>>58846977
Someone told me he used something called copic markers.

>>58895778
It's fpbp for a reason

>>58899492
What?

>>58899497
they speak english in what?

>>58847856
Dragonite was an animal you weird freak

weird thread

>>58902344
Was?
Animal?

Holy necro

>>58847799
I absolutely love how pissed and feral Nidoking looks here.
Wished he looked like that now.
I also miss the extra spines on his back, makes him look more imposing.

>>58886959
The leaks had some gen 2 stuff but I don't remember any gen 1

>>58882641
grift

>>58893240
What about this >>58887272

>>58912924
the only true examples are holy ones

>>58912924
yeah

>>58912924
right

>>58912924
uh huh

>>58884637
It's pretty fun to work with, used to be babby's first alongside crayons

>>58847779
probably becauze people were calling it dragon quest rip off plus sugimori is a lazy hack and digital is more easy

>>58912924
yeah yeah yeah

>>58912924
uhh huh mm hmmh

>>58912924
yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah

>>58847116
Super fpbp

>>58846977
Always good to see

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>Yeah I do like the watercolor of olde
>Open thread
>Some nice images
>Then random spam and autism
I really hate /vp/

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>>58847797
I miss the old proportions where Pokemon look like plastic figures from a Gachapon; if anyone has had a collection of Gundam minifigures, they know what I mean.

>>58846977
Based, always make more threads so sharty will cry about them then pretend to wonder why that thing's own face is all wet

>>58912924
oui

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>>58935879
>99 replies
>15 images
This place is total cancer. What's the point of an image board if nobody posts any fucking images?

>>58847797
Give that 'zard Strong Jaw

>>58866089
you need a pic to make a thread, but not afterwards

>>58861066
Is that the one with Gold?

>>58885205
Ever seen an artist trying to redraw an earlier piece? Their styles just ended up changing too much especially if this one's from 30 years ago

>>58866089
Based, keep making threads like this so sharty will cry about them then pretend to wonder why that thing's own face is all wet

>>58847849
it's the moment between tripping and hitting the ground

>>58847803
I find that Meowth/Jigglypuff/Hitmontop thing thoroughly fascinating for both how utterly bizarre it is compared to what'd you'd normally see in Pokemon, and how it's never been seen again any fashion.
Even that turtle looks like it got reworked into Carracosta.
I mean, I guess this could be a proto-Hitmontop, but man.
It's so fuckin' weird.

>>58893319
if you knew the things he's seen...

>>58893319
Maybe they felt like the colors were too close to Rhydon.

>>58943392
It's sorta shaped like a UFO and the drill looks like it could be a tractor beam type dimensionality to the design. Maybe it was reworked into magnezone or beeheyem as well as hitmontop

>>58937869
>What's the point of an image board if nobody posts any fucking images?
Everntually, everyone's probably going to think you shouldn't post images, like what happened with using names.

>>58936017
that drawing makes it clear that newer pokemons are just that dogshit. it's not about them being in 3d.

>>58945433
always brings joy to my heart

>>58944823
Or just use names/trips/pics whenever you want, what's stopping you

>>58945433
They look even worse when animated lol

>>58866089
but this brings even more joy to my heart

>>58846977
I thought Blastoise was supposed to be designed differently, looks good here

>>58943392
>how utterly bizarre it is compared to what'd you'd normally see in Pokemon
Doesn't look too different, fits right in with Chansey/Clefairy/Jigglypuff

>>58948222
is that from the leaks or somewhere else

>>58949585
no

>>58949585
it came to me in a dream

water color in general is just the most pleasant dreamy looking paint form. I know I should attach a photo to help illustrate this but I can't think of one

>>58880794
they gave you little blue translucent stone beads to count your health with pre-made decks

>>58951942
that sounds pretty soulful

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>>58952888
definitely. but later on when some friends and I got back into battling the cards around 09-'12 we just used little dice or sometimes even the 20 sided magic ones. 4 dots on the die would be 40 damage.

since some of the newer cards would have close to 200 HP the MTG 20 sided ones worked pretty good.

>>58953507
pretty sad if the card game got hit by powercreep too

>>58953507
Man, those things look like they can get lost easily if you bring them to school or wherever

>>58954898
depends on how many niggers there are in your school

>>58861066
so strange seeing zard's fangs as part of its mouth

>>58954898
>>58956333
in some schools most kids are too nice to even think of taking anyone else's stuff
pretty crazy when you see how things are elsewhere

>>58954898
I dont remember ever really using the glass bead counters. in elementary school we really didnt battle pokemon cards we just collected them usually.

it wasn't until a revival later on in the late 00's early 10's I ever really battled them. me and one of my buddies even went to a heart gold soul silver pre-release (there were like 4 TCG sets around the time of the DS games) and got some sick Celebi sleeves. it was a booster draft you paid your entry and got like 6 new boosters to build a deck from.

but we were like 20 or 21 maybe which was kinda weird, it was usually young kids and their parents but the parents (later 30s to 40s) sometimes battled too.

>>58957442
It does feel like it disappeared for a while and people were playing YGO more, but now it's the opposite, there's less YGO while TCG's back, kinda funny

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>>58847797
>>58847799
>>58847779
I am personally indifferent but one thing I do prefer from that era are the designs of the protagonists. I like how Red and Gold (Ethan?) have that "cocky brat" look to them. The modern iterations look kinda faggy.

>>58957944
the smugness always makes me smile too

>>58957944
>everyone must have angry angled eyebrows
even the little girls?

>>58957944
I think it might just be the fashion sense change over the decades
For me, the "pokemon protag look" is still a kid with baggy pants, backwards hats, or wearing very sporty clothing like kris

>>58847856
Furries are so fucking delusional

>>58882641
Merchandising and plushies

>>58912924
I think what people really forget is how pokemon was once a kaiju adjacent series, with monsters being monstrous

>>58936017
>I miss the old proportions where Pokemon look like plastic figures from a Gachapon
They looked like chibi kaijus which I'm a sucker for

>>58958659
especially them

>>58936017
Only one that looks good here are Blastoise (obviously) and Dragapult, the rest look fucking disgusting

>>58957944
I just miss when they looked like kids you could actually imagine roughing it and being into outdoorsman activities, since that's part of the whole journey.
The S/V kids look like they would run home to mommy after getting a scraped knee.

>>58957944
dat smirk

>>58959344
So where's Pikachu from?

>>58889759
the trash just pretends to be attracted to it "ironically" to drive you away

>>58912924
ja

>>58961679
Are you trying to start an argument I didn't make

>>58963744
Wynaut

>>58847849
that's been based for a long time

>>58847849
You can thank PMD for that

>>58964353
How would you feel if you didn't have breakfast this morning?

>>58965470
Same as always, breakfast is overrated

>>58847799
They stole all of Nikoking's sauce in the jump to 3d. On par with the burning of the Library of Alexandria.

>>58846977
I miss Charmeleon's giga chin.

>>58966628
same

>>58847799
The watercolors make them look more "lumpy" without extra linework, most modern designs don't look organic.

>>58847116
Fpbp trvke

>>58846977
The truth is that whenever I try to imitate the current clean and digital Pokemon style with hand-drawn pencils, it ends up looking a lot like a retro style of sugi lol

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>>58847779
Sugimori’s artstyle just changed over time, he’s the same one that did OR AS’s art.

>>58884637
it's just harder to trace that way

>>58959326
not just that

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>>58967564
Gen 3 kind of still had that original style

>>58846977
gen 1 was best and never topped

>>58847799
Nidoking was something else back then. Damn, what a mon.

I also forgot how much I loved Haunter.

Why is chapjeet necrobumping this over weeks

>>58969586
Huh, didn't realize the thread is that old. I don't come by on /vp/ often anymore as the board is entirely worthless in its current state.

>>58967564
Crazy to think this meme is older than probably half the people on this board

>>58846977
More crying about it means the thread is even more based now

>>58969701
Makes it even more based

>>58969282
May looks even cuter that way

>>58969282
Happy May is always good

>>58969355
Based

>>58969586
necro bumping is pretty common on this board for some reason, i think it's because regular threads die early and people want attention for their dumb threads/posts

>>58846977
Almost like other boards don't have something as useless as a furry trying to spam the real threads off the board

>>58846977
Watercolor is also best color

>>58960044
They represent what the ones who made those games are like

>>58866089
That explains it

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No one should tell this Anon that Anime has changed too....

>>58846977
Enshittification spread to a lot of things

>>58976985
Aaaaaand there's a lot of whining when it gets pointed out

>>58960044
They represent what is greatest in us all, and all our hopes go with them

>>58969701
I know, and I made it

>>58978211
Prove it

>>58936017
>>58959344
>the old proportions where Pokemon look like plastic figures from a Gachapon
It's because the old mons were designed directly as sprites and their proportions had to fit in the 56x56px square box. That's why the RG art had that stocky limbs look. It wasn't until the anime (or the RB art) when they elongated them into the proportions we see today.

>>58958659
GRRRRRRR MESUGAKI LASS NEEDS TRAINER CORRECTION

>>58957944
Why is Gold wearing a stuffy sweater in the warm summer countryside?
>B-but autumn leaves in ecru-
Only added 10 years later after the fact in HGSS.

>>58978599
the lass music still perks me up

>>58978599
The way their ponytails swish back and forth was soulful

>>58978890
dammit, I thought you said a slutty sweater

>>58847849
Looks like that really gottim

>>58866046
If these aren't JRPG mechanics then what are they

>>58981977
MMO mechanics in the case of ZA

>>58866046
Does FF14 still count as a JRPG?

>>58846977
back to based threads

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>>58960044
the legends ZA kids look autistic too

>>58969355
this

>>58984539
thought they aren't supposed to be kids

>>58912924
>Wished he looked like that now.
Nidoking now looks the same as back then though.

>>58983983
>>58985390
nice

>>58985810
the spikes are longer and thinner or something

>>58984539
Looks more gay than autistic

>>58987783
probably both, they're definitely gay but the fedora + smiling vacantly in every cutscene while everyone else talks makes them seem really autistic too.
>>58985185
you think they look like adults? I guess it's subjective. but I'm pretty sure there's a scene near the end where Z says "you kids" or something like that.

>>58969282
still great

>>58969701
never stopped being true

>>58988486
>smiling vacantly in every cutscene
Isn't that how all the others look

>>58869761
>animated png
nice, funny how that needs to be converted before posting here

>>58848094
Don't see no difference

>>58846977
>2 of them are on top now
That's twice as based

>>58847116
Looks like that really struck a nerve

>>58846977
Even when messed up it just looks much better

>>58874953
childhood is supposed to be when you first got to play with watercolors

>>58846977
Why hasn't anyone made porn in watercolor Sugimori style yet?

>>58846977
I thought they were making porn doujins before pokemon

>>58847779
also spbp ig

>>58874953
Could be because crayons taste better than watercolors

>>58928193
Doesn't look like they were very litigation-happy back then. Or maybe more like it's only Nintendo (and Toyota) that are infamous for lawsuits

>>58980689
this one didn't get a scream, rip

>>58957442
Huh, so the TCG is more for collecting than actually playing? I guess that makes sense, never saw it being played as much as the other card games but it's still been making a lot

>>58967884
Pretty sad that even he can't go back

>>58847116
lol someone couldn't handle the truth