>>58888607
>muh forced Wednesday memes, nonsensicle plot twists with people doing out of character shit out if nowhere and muh Pokemon dismemberment violence!!
The most cringe manga series ever made

>>58888607
That’s should be me, not her. It’s not fair.

>>58888607
>Futa
Gross.

Pokemon, as a series, works best when there’s no overarching storyline. I don’t know why GameFreak/Nintendo decided to make Pokemon more complex with adding stories to the game. The first three generations had it right. Gen 4 and Gen 5 really ruin the series.

>>58889855
??? The plot of the newer games isn't that complex. The fuck are you on about?

>>58891190
He misses the times when his underdeveloped child brain allowed him to experience a Pokemon story with a sense of wonder and optimism that can only exists inside the imagination of a little boy.

>>58890541
Made for Black cock

>>58891190
>>58891229
It constrains the manga into following story beats. Seriously, compare that to Red, Blue, Green to newer volumes. The first generation had that whimsical adventure to it, whereas the newer gen has to follow a certain path with little to no deviance

>>58891412
I almost agree, it only constrains the manga if the plot of the game is particular invasive or poorly written. The worse the source material is the more needs to be done to editorialize it to make it palatable (think about how much SW/SS had to be changed). Even then every game, even Red/Blue, has a shortlist of different locales and characters the player encounters which Kusaka has always based his chapters around since the very beginning. And it isn't as if he's totally bound by the games canon, Bianca's encounter with her dad at Nimbasa is infamously absent from the BW arc for instance.

>>58891331
She enjoys BWC.

>>58889537
But it’s not futa. It’s something else.

>>58892338
He means Black's cock not black cock

>>58892460
That makes more sense b

>>58892414
Then what the fuck is that bulge?

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>>58894167
I think its meant to be her leg, but the left leg does look bent the wrong way for that.

>>58888607
Do women actually like Yellow? I always imagine them preferring Green or Sapphire or even Platinum

>>58888664
it was always the truest adaption of the games so it became as cringe as the games became

>>58894318
Nice fanart.

>>58888607
Is this porn?

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>>58894167
It's Yellow's knee. Her leg's raised for some reason.

>>58895362
If you're talking about the image, no it's just some softcore yuri doujin where all the girls get hypnotised into falling in love with Yellow, but all they end up doing is just cuddling her in a bed. Very boring since not even the guys reactions are interesting, no plot or even any drama since the hypnotism erases all the girls unique personalities too. Only gay Yellowfag self inserters would enjoy this. All the artist's work is like this, not to my taste personally.

>>58894702
From what I've noticed, a lot of women do like Yellow but mostly for them to self insert as her romancing Red. A smaller percentage of female Yellow fans are mentally ill pooners who use her as a symbol of androgyny or trans representation. Asking any of these people to discuss Yellow's story arc or her real non-fanfic personality tends to go absolutely nowhere. They rarely seem genuine or have even read past the gen 1 arcs.

Of course Yellow is also just cute and well designed, being an iconic Mato symbol and symbol of PokeSpe originality in general. So some people will just like her for that and it might not be that deep.

>>58895416
>softcore yuri doujin
I will now read this

>>58895416
Just read it, what does red say at the end?

>>58888664
You get used to it.

>>58897422
>I only want window seats
>Yellow is the only one that isn't an autist or an idiot
fuck me.

>>58897422
From best to worst
>1
Aisle seat right near the front and it's next to Latias who's probably the best waifu you can choose to sit next to
>6
Another aisle seat and Emerald seems chill and if he starts to get annoying you can always bail out
>7
Window seat next to Yellow who'd be all-around very pleasant, but you'd have to climb over her and Crys if you ever needed to get out
>3
Saph could be an alright seat partner if you don't mind the smell, but again you can always bail out.
>4
Another seat where you'd be trapped behind two people, only this time you'd have to endure Gold and Silver's pissing matches
>5
Pinsered between the moody Scarlet and a Overzealous Fed, you might be alright provided you don't do anything to piss them off
>2
Window seat next to worst boy, this one speaks for itself
>8
Sequestered right in the back between Battle autist Red and a woefully White-less Black. You're liable to get caught in the crossfire of an all out brawl, that is if you're eardrums don't give out first

>>58897422
Picking the middle seat is psycho.

>>58897422
I can finally sit alone next to Sapphire and let her chew on my arm as stress relief for the whole twelve hour flight, all while I convince her to leave her shitty boyfriend for me instead.

>>58897937
Good for you.

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When will the volume be released?

>>58898970
Good god, we won’t see volume 65 alive, will we?

>>58898970
After the Ruby Sapphire sex scene is approved which is probably never

The last thread mentioned an anthology series for Pokespe. Will it actually work.

>>58900459
No. Authors will try and use the first three gene and ignore the rest.

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>>58900459
Yes. It will only cover the first three gens which are the only ones that matter anyway, irrespective of ESL zoomer seething.

But even then it's not like people even read the new Pokespe stuff anymore. By this point, an anthology would be considered a success by Pokespe standards for even being published in the first place. And I wouldn't expect it to be very good.

>>58888607
I don't usually read yuri but this doujin looks worth reading.

>>58897422
7

>>58900928
>the first three gens which are the only ones that matter anyway, irrespective of ESL zoomer seething.
Gay and wrong, but that's ok

>>58898970
>a three, soon to be four gen old arc still can't finish

>>58901081
Editor is lazy as fuck.

>>58900928
Put a fucking shirt on, Red

Man, I still can't believe the BDSP arc was completely skipped.

>>58901360
It’s like the author hates remakes.

>>58901245
Let Yellow enjoy the view.

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>Wait Crystal don't d-
>Hold on, these are Stadium 2 mini-games
Whew, almost made a mistake there.

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>>58899725
They can't stop what's to come.

How would Mae th best Yandere?

>>58903482
Yellow

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>literal best Yellow x Lance fanartist hasn't put out anything new in who knows how long
feels bad man

>>58904313
>Yellow x Lance
Never understood why this is a thing. Isn't Lance terrified of Yellow?

>>58904755
You forgot to mention that Yellow also hates Lance

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>>58904755
>Isn't Lance terrified of Yellow?
Yeah
>>58905141
Sure, whatever you say, anon

>>58905141
>>58905631
Still funny to see Yellow, the most pacifistic of all the dexholders, terrifies one of the former Elite Four.

Pokespe should have continued having ntr. It was the best part of the Red/Misty/Yellow love triangle.

>>58897422
Seat 2 so I can repeatedly kick the seat in front of me as hard as I can throughout the entire flight

>>58906462
What the fuck, what did Dia ever do to you?

>>58906569
I can't read, I thought I'd be kicking Blue's seat

>>58902693
Translate nerds.

>>58907213
Just use AI or something

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Most Yandere female character in Pokemon? I would say Green if she never reunited with her parents.

>>58908061
I need to learn Japanese. These doujins can’t keep going under the radar

>>58897422
I’ll take 1

>>58908061
norman

>>58909530
>female character
>Norman
Ok bro

>>58908061
You know, at first I thought it would have been Sapphire given how possessive she was, but after ORAS, I just now think she's a cuckquean.

>>58910048
What happened in ORAS?

>>58910788
Sapphire gets sideline by another woman.

>>58910145
Cute

>>58906732
Leave my wife alone please

>>58912113
No

>>58894702
I loved Yellow when I was little. When she came out, I felt very strange and rubbed my private parts against the wall imagining it was her, ha ha ha, what times those were... Now I'm a still Dyke and Yellow ruined my life

>>58913035
off-topic

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So, why DID they give Sapphire so many blatant ass shots in ORAS? Is /mg/ right that it was an attempt to distract the reader from how dogshit the plot was?

>>58913522
They're the OTP

>>58913035
Red and yellow is better.

>>58913527
I just assume it was for more older fans.

>>58913527
Gen 6 is when Yamamoto was running wild with the suggestive panels. It was his means of blowing off steam after being worked like a slave during the post-BW2 schedule clusterfuck

>>58913035
Cute couple

>>58913527
To provide another concrete difference between her and May: May as the tits girl, and now Sapphire definitively as the ass girl.

>>58913527
Maybe they’re going to censor this in the volumes?

I wonder if Black and White will get remakes.

>>58916248
I hope so

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Best girl coming through

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>>58917779
Sorry wrong pic

>>58918162
FAT

>>58917779
Can’t believe she can pass as a tomboy.

>>58918162
White is overrated.

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>>58918537
>Overrated
How? I’m like the only guy in these threads who posts about her

>>58918578
BASED BASED

>>58913527
To give her something because ORAS's story requires Saph to suffer as much as physically and emotionally possible. It's the kind of thing that if she just flew away from Hoenn and left everyone to their fates and never came back it'd make more sense than what actually happened.

>>58913527
Why were fire red and leaf green the only good remakes?

>>58918593
>you're going to suffer a bunch, Sapphire, so we're going to give you a fat ass for Ruby to fuck in the future
wew

Who’s the NTR queen?

>>58913527
>So, why DID they give Sapphire so many blatant ass shots in ORAS?
the ultimate goal of ORAS is to shit on original courtney and the original adventures series as much as possible

>>58919138
It's (You), your majesty

>>58919153
How does giving Sapphire a large, prominent butt denigrate the original adventures series?

>>58919353
OG adventures was wholesome and kid-friendly whimsical adventure story.

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I don't know if I still have the page bookmarked but artist is manten1000. Your reminder Koga got the sweet headband

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>Even the nicest ones who don't typically fight have absolutely gnarly tricks because they're like that
Fuck yeah power fantasy

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>>58919876
Sapphire's big booty is very wholesome!

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>>58913527

>>58920874
>>58920939
It has a secret meaning

>>58921389
That secret meaning is anal sex.

>>58919138
You

>>58919138
Green.

>>58919138
>Not one anon has mentioned Misty yet

>>58922962
She got cucked by Yellow. Hard to call her an NTR Queen like that.

>>58920559
I don't mind this. It adds some realism to the story

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Do we love evil Women here?

QRD on why it's been a mess to finish an arc before starting another game's?

>>58924154
Seems like the editor is being lazy and/or Kusaka wants to add more things to it.

>>58923938
Didn’t Sabrina stop being evil? Weird as fuck to see her and Surge be good guys now and not be renegade criminals since they didn’t repent.

>>58924185
>Editor
Why is he pussyfooting around.

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>>58923938
Yes.

>>58923938
>>58925640
Are these AI?

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Happy Valentine’s Day

>>58924154
Game actually has a story to tell, which the author has to follow with only a few deviances.

>>58926195
Possibly. Hard to tell in today’s world.

>>58926195
Yes to both.
https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/140684149
https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/119547996

Ruby is still my favorite dex holder even though he's a massive piece of shit

>>58914438
>Implying it wasn't Gen 5
Someone post the Skyla page

>>58927297
Is it because he gets to plow Sapphy's big tushy?

>>58901398
>>58901360
because it s nothing new? it literally dp but in ugly 3d unlike other remakes added new stuff

>>58927271
Damn. Was hoping they weren’t.

>>58894702
Yes.
t. knower

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>>58918593
>if she just flew away from Hoenn and left everyone to their fates and never came back it'd make more sense than what actually happened.
Ruby almost did that in the RS arc and Sapphire screeched at him for it, so it'd actually be the opposite. Sapphire would never abandon Hoenn. Besides Ruby acting selfishly to the detriment of others, vs Sapphire acting selflessly to the detriment of herself, is how they've always acted. Only western libertarians keep suggesting that Sapphire becoming a selfish individualist degen like Ruby would be an improvement/fix the story.

But the ORAS arc still sucks. I wonder if it felt unnatural partly because Sapphire's existence may have contradicted a theme Kusaka was trying to push. Then because of time constraints it became easier for him to just unperson her, to make that plot point work but it still didn't work.

The theme I'm talking about is just
>Guys stop fighting each other, if you don't work together then Hoenn will be doomed

Which was originally a big part of the RS arc, expressed as
>Ruby and Sapphire fighting
>Team Aqua and Team Magma fighting
>Groudon and Kyogre fighting
Then by the climax everyone teams up with their rivals to stop Groudon/Kyogre before everybody dies. Not that complicated. Also here, Sapphire was part of the problem, for awhile she picked fights with Ruby and crashed out on strangers for no reason as she was immature.

Later the exact same theme returns in ORAS, with some similar conflicts. Except now it's also framed as a more nebulous impersonal faction war. The 3 main factions are
>technology (Devon Corp and its laser/rocket; to an extent the Pokemon Association and its secret lab experiments)
>tradition/lore (the Draconids preserving a 1000 year old method to stop the meteor)
>nature (as in the destructive natural force of Groudon/Kyogre, also zombie Archie/Maxie are their mouthpieces for some reason)

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>>58928253
But those characters in the factions are just the background supporting cast. Where do the actual protagonists fit into the factions? That's the thing, they don't. Kind of. Nobody fucking knows because it's left unclear for Emerald and Sapphire has no screen time. Only Ruby gets elaborated on, which can also be hard to follow because he lies so much. It's part of why the faction concept seems forced or at least not as important as it wants to be. (There's also how zombie Archie and Maxie suddenly represent nature now, when back in RS they represented human evil opposing nature, what?)

Another issue with the faction thing is that they mainly exist as background props for Ruby. The factions' existence show how in contrast, Ruby is a solo independent free thinker(?) who is too cool/selfish to fit into a faction group. He just hops between factions, takes anything useful to him (info, Mega Bracelet from Devon, Fug scroll from the Draconids) then fucks off. It's a parallel to his dad, as Norman also didn't fit in with the other gym leaders, ignoring their political drama because he had more important shit to do.

So on one hand you have Ruby who separates himself from the ORAS political "faction war" as he pursues his own goals. ORAS focuses on this and how Ruby's psychology led him to making this choice. Later it's revealed that Ruby went independent because he is relatively "selfish"- the world is ending, yet his main goal is not protecting the world, but protecting his girlfriend Sapphire who takes priority. So he had no problem using and ditching the various factions in order to simp for Sapphire. Which can be seen as both romantic but also myopic whenever he "accidentally" risks getting people killed over her. (Also Zinnia later turns out to be the same as Ruby, except she only simps for Aster instead, which is why she also kept fucking everything up)

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>>58928265
On the other hand, Sapphire ALSO doesn't fit into any of the factions.

She's not employed by Devon, she didn't know what a Draconid was and she definitely doesn't want Groudon/Kyogre to nuke Hoenn. She first helps Devon then later helps the Draconids, based on whoever is being the least retarded and has the best meteor-stopping plan at any one moment. And Sapphire's real goal has never been secret. Opposite to Ruby, Sapphire cares about Hoenn (ie the world, the planet, civilization, all living beings etc) for its own sake both literally and as a concept- vaguely environmentalist/nationalist/Shintoist style- more than anything. Like Ruby, in ORAS she ignores everyone else's politics because it's useless to her goal. Unlike Ruby, her goal is broader than her immediate social circle; it's portrayed as a much bigger selfless sacrifice, because unlike other characters she's willing to die for Hoenn and for its own sake.

But instead of the ORAS arc exploring the reasons behind Sapphire's motivations, she mostly just gets shuffled offscreen. Leaving a lot of her psychology to subtext.

Why was Sapphire shafted when she's clearly designed to be as important as Ruby? Well going back to the RS/ORAS theme of
>Guys stop fighting each other, if you don't work together then Hoenn will be doomed
During RS, Sapphire was one of the characters just fighting people sometimes because of her bad temper and insecurity (as in she'd be actually mad and it's not a comic relief bit). While her goal to protect Hoenn was the same, her stupidity got in her own way by affecting her relationships with potential allies. She clearly had a lesson to learn so she fit the theme back then by providing more conflict for it.

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>>58928279
But 4 years later in ORAS, Sapphire is older and knows better. In her sparse ORAS scenes, if you ignore elements outside her control like Hoopa, she's quite focused by Sapphire standards and manages to crash out on Ruby for his stupidity only once or twice. At some point she even learned to just give him the silent treatment (even without the muteness thing) then go back to work which is funny. She also nearly breaks up with him for putting the world at risk because of his mental problems. This also lines up with Juan saying in RS that Sapphire is ironically better than Ruby at managing severe stress because Ruby is a godless heathen. Even during the Emerald arc, Sapphire had already calmed down a lot; she's also implied to mature faster than Ruby, as in she gets over her emotional baggage sooner (her broad life purpose vs Ruby's narrower one influences this difference).

So, the lesson Kusaka wants the characters to learn in ORAS- about ignoring drama and focusing on what's important- is something Sapphire may have ALREADY LEARNED by then. Sapphire had the biggest motivation to avoid repeating her RS mistakes in ORAS, because her love for Hoenn now comes up against the reality of that very same Hoenn about to be nuked by meteor. More than other characters, it's in her every interest to not be a retard and to not fuck up the meteor mission.

But Sapphire's seriousness about this one thing plus her new maturity, also meant she wouldn't cause (as much) pointless drama anymore. She'd just be the moral compass shonen protagonist telling everyone else to sing kumbaya, they'd agree and then she'd solve the plot instantly. Which could be boring.

So I think Sapphire got written out partly because she would've solved the whole plot in 5 minutes, and then there wouldn't have been enough stupid drama to fill the rest of the story (or at least that's what Kusaka thought).

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>>58928288
Meanwhile Ruby only ever causes problems and pisses other characters off, even after his RS/E character development, which can also more interesting to read about. Which may be part of why he gets the spotlight again in ORAS. Ruby's skewed priorities and loner streak caused him to drag out finding a solution for the meteor for 10 fucking days, all while creating completely avoidable conflict to fill the pages.

Of course Sapphire getting written out has consequences. The worst one that's related to the ORAS theme though actually involves Emerald. Specifically his speech where he states the theme out loud saying
>everybody shut up you're all retarded, if you don't get your priorities straight the meteor will kill us all
for a few pages. Then everyone clapped at the midget's rational wisdom, and all instantly agreed to forget about Devon Corp committing murder in order to work together. Yeah on one hand Emerald had a point, they had to stop arguing anyway if the plot was going to progress. But on the other hand, the scene still feels off and is nowhere as compelling as it clearly wants to be. There are 4 reasons for this.

>#1
The whole scene and everything leading up to it happened too fast, so it's hard to process. But the whole ORAS arc is rushed in general.

>#2
We don't know why Emerald even cares. I'm not sure he even does care here. This speech is the only time in ORAS where he's both proactive and has any significant effect on other characters, but even then he just seems more annoyed by everyone than invested in the situation itself. Even worse, it's not like he takes a leadership role afterwards either; he just suddenly scolded everyone for wasting his time, then went back to being a background character forever.

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>>58928303
What even are Emerald's stakes in ORAS besides "not wanting to die by meteor"? He isn't even that close to Ruby or Sapphire, at most he's just in their outer circle of friends. The one time he discussed his motivations in ORAS it was just worrying about Crystal and his mentor (the Trick Master), neither of whom are even present. Emerald never says how he feels about Hoenn itself let alone "the planet". But considering he spent a lot of his formative years in fucking Johto, just like Ruby, you could assume Emerald may have a similar detachment from the whole situation.

The thing is, Emerald doesn't even HAVE to care. In his debut arc, he's compared to Ruby because of his selfish antisocial tendencies, he was just that kind of character. And so his ORAS speech looks weird as normally Emerald wouldn't be saying that kind of stuff, even considering his character development. Someone who doesn't give a shit suddenly dropping a motivational speech is not compelling or emotional. It's just "well that just happened" (which describes a lot of ORAS). Emerald looks detached, so the reader likely feels the same.

>#3
Why is Emerald of all characters giving this speech? He's done nothing in ORAS until now. The idea that he's the middle ground between Ruby and Sapphire's extremes doesn't even apply in this scene as they aren't the ones arguing here. Yet the idea that Emerald is the middle between Devon and the Draconids/Zinnia also makes no sense, he doesn't know these people and has was less history with them than Ruby/Sapphire do, so where does Emerald even fit into this drama? He doesn't, he is a random outsider lecturing strangers. I think Emerald didn't have a chance to be relevant or do anything in ORAS until this scene, so he was just dumped into the role of Zinnia and Mr Stone's mediator by default. It's not like Emerald brought anything unique to himself to the conversation, so in reality the mediator could've been anyone.

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>>58928317
>#4
Worst point: Emerald's ORAS speech could be considered the soulless contractually obligated version of the 5 page speech SAPPHIRE gave to Ruby in RS. Which I mentioned at the beginning. It's where she also goes
>Ruby shut up you're retarded, if you don't get your priorities straight the tsunamis and droughts will kill us all
all while yelling, crying, stripping off her clothes and throwing shit at him in an autistic rage as she ends their friendship. Yes she overreacted. But at the same time she was passion incarnate, she clearly really cared about Hoenn to the point of going nuts. Sapphire's a character meant to come off as "stupid" but on moral matters she's always portrayed as correct; she has a stronger moral compass than anyone else, so when she lectures Ruby it's because she's meant to be right, and passionately so.

I think one thing that could've helped ORAS feel less dead inside would be if Emerald's mediation speech was Sapphire's speech instead. It'd make more sense for her to say stuff like that anyway, and she'd be so much more invested and passionate about it (maybe no stripping or throwing stuff though). She might do a much less intelligent/authoritative speech, only appealing to emotion/morality but she's not supposed to be smart anyway, maybe her friends would help her out a bit. The point is that:

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>>58928329
- She'd just be reiterating an idea already present in ORAS: where everyone else is corrupt or distracted, only Sapphire has her heart in the right place and never lost sight of what's most important (stopping the meteor because Hoenn is worth protecting full stop) and this is what she reminds everyone of. Sapphire snapping at everyone (not just at her boyfriend) would also cement the relationship/contrast between her and everyone else's goals/roles in the story, making them more obvious which helps lay out Sapphire's psychology the same way Ruby's got explored. (For example, while Sapphire's motivation is simple, pure and self-driven, there are opposite people like Ruby or Zinnia who lack intrinsic purpose/morality and cling to other people for what they can't find by themselves)

- While Sapphire's RS crashout was partly driven by personal grievance (feeling Ruby betrayed her), by the time she's older in ORAS I don't see why she can't evolve to mediate grievance between people who aren't herself, in this case Zinnia and Mr Stone. It'd be a clear upwards/outwards evolution of how Sapphire approaches conflict and it wouldn't come out of nowhere.

- If Sapphire has to spend 90% of ORAS being mute, then the least she could get is a major opportunity to speak after she got cured, especially if it both aligns with her goals and helps resolve a big conflict in the story.

- Sapphire literally yelled a short version of the theme/Emerald's speech to Zinnia at some point earlier in ORAS, long before Emerald said his version.

- If Kusaka was afraid that a more mature ORAS Sapphire would contradict his "omg everyone is fighting ahhh the drama" theme and remove too much conflict, then a compromise would be Sapphire being allowed to have screentime, but she'd act more as a mediator than an instigator of conflict in a single speech near the ending. I mean it'd be better than the nothing she actually got.

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>>58928353
But of course in the actual ORAS arc, Sapphire doesn't get to give a speech. Because that would remind the reader that she cares this much, and yet she hasn't accomplished anything leading up to that point in ORAS to help the situation. And then they might realize it's not that she didn't try, but that she got unfairly kneecapped and written out at every single opportunity.

Anyway I'm just rambling now. But it's just so weird that Sapphire looks most like the protagonist of ORAS, yet she's forced to be a background character. And even then everyone still senses how unnatural that is. Also the conflict of Sapphire trying to save the world, in the face of both retarded politics and an overprotective mentally ill boyfriend, is just more straightforward and easier to follow than ORAS approaching the story from her mentally ill boyfriend's perspective (which is what ORAS ultimately did).

>>58913527
>>58920874
>>58920939
Plumpy

>>58928265
Zinnia raping Ruby...

>>58928253
>Ruby almost did that in the RS arc and Sapphire screeched at him for it, so it'd actually be the opposite.
The difference there is Ruby was being a coward and not using the power he clearly possessed to help while others were suffering. And Saph still suffered because of it since Ruby decided to lock her in Wallace's flying car while he went and did the dirty work himself.

Here in ORAS everyone betrayed Saph. Everyone. Nobody told her that a meteorite was going to impact Hoenn and potentially destroy the entire region and kill everyone. Ruby wanted Saph to live on blissfully unaware and swore Emerald, Steven, and Mr. Stone to secrecy in this regard. But they still needed the Infinity Energy Saph could produce, so from her perspective her Blaziken had to be tortured by her allies for a reason they wouldn't tell her, because nobody trusted her. It took ZINNIA, the arc villain, to inform her of what's actually going on.

And what happened? The trauma caused her to go mute, and she abandoned everyone else fighting at Sea Mauville. She even debated whether to defend the Mossdeep Space Center or not, and whether to hand over the Dimensional Shifter or not. And she was still left fighting on her own to defend a high-profile target that Zinnia absolutely was going to hit, even with Steven there, causing her to lose and tumble down and would've died had Aarune not seen the battle and rescued her.

She ultimately doesn't have a lot of relevance and is only included at the end because Rayquaza wanted her there too for some reason, even though she didn't bond with it at any point.

>>58928430
This

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>>58928367
Interesting analysis, thanks for the effort.

Some questions about the meteor:
>Is it stated how dangerous it is?
>How big it is and what mass it has?
>Is it a global threat or only a regional one? From what I'm getting, there's talk about "saving the world", while it's mentioned to (only) destroy Hoenn.
>Is it explicitly stated that the meteor is going to land in Hoenn? Or could it land somewhere else?


>>58928510
Really makes me wonder what the likelyhood of the apocalypse was, given the "Don't look up"-level of stupidity of almost everyone involved. Like, out of a given number of alternate universes, in how many did the apocalypse occur?

>>58929742
Cute savage for

>>58930118
>Was the Mossdeep Space Center the only facility worldwide capable of stopping the meteor?

>>58921720
Yes.

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>>58930195
for me

Red is for Misty only.

>>58917779
I would fuck her so hard

>>58930985
Pls tell me this art isnt AI

Did Blue (girl) actually have tits or was it always just the Poké Ball gag?

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>>58931979
She always had tits, which is weird since she's like what 10 or 11 when she debuted?

>>58932293
Does she have tits now?

>>58932604
Yeah, there's even a panel centered on her tits.

>>58932715
Source?

>>58932715
Post it

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>>58928510
>Saph still suffered because of it since Ruby decided to lock her in Wallace's flying car while he went and did the dirty work himself
Sapphire getting protected from life-threatening harm and not having to do dirty work = Sapphire abuse?

>Ruby wanted Saph to live onblissfully unaware
Ruby wanting Sapphire to be alive and happy = Sapphire abuse?

>Here in ORAS everyone betrayed Saph. Everyone. Nobody told her that a meteorite was going to impact Hoenn
True, they all lied to her which is a breach of trust and morally dubious at best. But you can't deny she was also a lot happier for it while she was ignorant: she was playing in the ocean, exploring Sea Mauville, cuddling wild Pokemon, wearing new clothes her boyfriend made, daydreaming about the date to the expensive meteor show he bought her, surrounded by allies and a rich megacorporation CEO who would help watch her back, and not thinking about death at all. Which is what Ruby wanted for her because he's so evil and this is Sapphire abuse.

People get so unhinged when discussing Ruby. While the way he lies to Sapphire clearly isn't right, it's binary thinking to think he's Satan just for that. Then again Ruby is like his dad Norman where they're both supposed to be controversial characters toeing the line between justified and unjustified, spawning a wide range of interpretations.

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>>58933238
And westerners often interpret Ruby as being completely evil, because their secular religion of liberalism dictates that any restriction of personal autonomy is the worst sin of all. Ruby is completely obsessed with looking after Sapphire and protecting her from harm, but because he also tries to stop her from potentially killing herself, that's restricting Sapphire's right to do whatever she chooses- so now Ruby is Hitler. But in reality, Sapphire sometimes getting her feelings hurt, hell even Sapphire's trauma getting accidentally triggered by Ruby which turns her mute (but not even fully mute because reasons I guess) for a few days, is nowhere the same level as someone purposely beating the shit out of her or something. In reality, depending on how you look at it Ruby could even be right in manipulating her.

Liberalism's brainrot is also why it's impossible to discuss the reasons why Ruby despite his clearly kind intentions, is still ultimately portrayed to be in the wrong by the PokeSpe narrative, and why Sapphire's anger at him is justified (hint: it's religion not feminism).

>from her perspective her Blaziken had to be tortured by her allies for a reason they wouldn't tell her, because nobody trusted her.
Devon Corp didn't trust any of the dexholders with the truth, not just Sapphire. Emerald didn't expect to see his Sceptile get tortured either. Ruby had also been misled by Devon as he was shocked to see effects of the torture chamber machine. He was probably pissed they did that shit in front of Sapphire and upset her too. It's why Ruby immediately declared he was no longer on Devon's side.

>she abandoned everyone else fighting at Sea Mauville
Sapphire got kidnapped by Hoopa. While she was angry with her allies, that doesn't equate to her actively choosing to ditch them during a fight with enemies, because she'd never do that. She's not a selfish individualist.

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>>58933246
>debated whether to defend the Mossdeep Space Center or not, and whether to hand over the Dimensional Shifter or not
What she was "debating" was what the fuck was going on, as she'd just been teleported to a black void where she couldn't see shit far from her original location. Then she got upset about how Ruby manipulated her again, but decided to forget about it for now because the incoming meteor is more important to think about. So the moment she gets her bearings, she instantly heads out to deliver the Shifter and help defend the Space Center; she never thought of doing otherwise, she wasn't debating on abandoning the planet due to a grudge, because she'd never do that. Because she's not a selfish individualist.

>And she was still left fighting on her own to defend a high-profile target that Zinnia absolutely was going to hit, even with Steven there
Yeah not sure why Steven never tried to intervene, maybe he got too distracted by Sapphire's ass. But he was also the only other Pokemon trainer in the vicinity (terrible crisis management by Devon). Ruby and Emerald were oceans away, they had no idea where she got teleported and Ruby was panicking about it, it's not like they didn't want to be Sapphire's backup.

>causing her to lose and tumble down and would've died had Aarune not seen the battle and rescued her.
I don't think she would've died and nobody stays dead in this series anyway but ok. But what's wrong with Sapphire facing the consequences of picking a fight? If Sapphire living in comfortable ignorant bliss far away from the battlefield is satanic abuse by Ruby, then Sapphire choosing to chase terrorists to space is her independent girlboss empowerment. Whether she wins or loses her fights, Sapphire can and does take responsibility for herself (she only scolds Ruby for lying to her or doing stupid shit)

>>58933238
Does Ruby doing buttstuff with Sapphire count as Sapphire abuse?

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>>58933251
Also Aarune only saved her because he was a new ORAS character needing a cameo and this was the only opportunity to stick him into the story.

>She ultimately doesn't have a lot of relevance
Sapphire is actually very relevant- mostly to the ORAS arc's the B-plot (the emotional/relationship part) and C-plot (the thematic part). But she is surgically removed from the ORAS arc's A-plot (main premise/action part) which is weird for a protagonist who was involved in all 3 plots back in the RS arc. Since you only bring up A-plot story beats from ORAS, then obviously it looks like Sapphire doesn't exist there since she's mostly written out of the A-plot. And the B/C-plot stuff is always more subtle and subtextual so it may seem less important than muh battles and muh explosions. But in the big picture, all of these sides to the plot are connected and shouldn't be viewed in isolation.

>is only included at the end because Rayquaza wanted her there too for some reason, even though she didn't bond with it at any point.
Sapphire didn't need to actively bond with Rayquaza because she's the real Lorekeeper, which automatically made her like Rayquaza's soulmate. Which is why Rayquaza never tries to hurt her and listens to her, despite its violent history of trying to kill anyone who tried controlling it, and why Sapphire is the only one who can hear its voice. In contrast Rayquaza tried to kill Ruby and stabbed Zinnia because they were fakes trying to be Lorekeeper. The only known requirement to be a real Lorekeeper is based on the only detail known about the previous Lorekeeper Aster: that she had supernatural powers. The only Hoenn protag with superpowers is Sapphire as far back as RS, but after character development now in ORAS she's suddenly seeing ghosts and shit too, this was done to create a parallel between Sapphire and Aster. (Sapphire and Aster are the magical empathic heroines while Ruby and Zinnia are selfish mentally ill anti-heroes)

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>>58933256
Point is that Sapphire's developed such a powerful sense of empathy for others, to the point of it becoming a Fug-whispering ghost-noticing sixth sense. She accomplished this because she's not a selfish individualist.

Now even if it would make more sense for Sapphire to be a seething resentful person holding grudges because of how she was treated, that actually isn't her character at all. She's actually the opposite. She has a quick temper sure but she also gets over things just as quickly. Even ignoring Ruby, Sapphire was quick to forgive people like Roxanne, Emerald and even Zinnia even though they all treated her like shit at best or ruined her life at worst. She was also the only one upset about Maxie being murdered. That's why all your interpretations of events in ORAS are off, because you fundamentally misunderstand who Sapphire is as a character.

Anyway I'm not saying the ORAS arc is good suddenly, just that when it comes to its main issues, people just blame completely random things that aren't actually the problem or just make up problems that didn't even exist. It's way more complicated than it looks.

>>58933254
Depends on whether Sapphire's aware of the buttstuff, your definition of consent and/or whether it even matters that much in this context (this is the Ruby controversy formula)

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>>58933251
>Yeah not sure why Steven never tried to intervene, maybe he got too distracted by Sapphire's ass.
Happens to all of us.

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>>58933279
No he might have literally been distracted by her ass.

>>58933246
Why do I feel like an unironic religious reader wouldn't have any of the common misconceptions about Sapphire's character, motives, and actions?

>>58933292
>Damn, I never noticed it was THAT big.

>>58933269
/mg/ is ambiguous on the buttstuff lore, other than that Ruby and Sapphire's first time was marred by Ruby accidentally slipping it in the butt instead, becoming buttstuff addicted, and continuing to do it for the foreseeable future, all while Sapphire was blissfully ignorant. I think they eventually settled on Ruby confessing this to Sapphire, but I can't remember the post. Anyway, Sapphire probably gives retroactive consent for buttstuff months (or years) after the fact.

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>>58933293
Because the biggest themes of the RS/ORAS arcs are the differences between male and female (Ruby and Sapphire's trauma, the effects of nature/nurture on their different flaws and perspectives and priorities) and the important role of heterosexual marriage in maintaining a civilized society (Ruby refused to participate in society until he got addicted to Sapphire pussy, so now he does hero stuff because that's what she wants). In these degenerate times, it's mostly religious people who still take those things seriously or even think that biological sex differences exist.

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>>58933254
Does "getting fucked in the ass" sound benevolent to you?

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>>58933292
From that moment on, Steven was never the same.

>>58933766
>Does "getting fucked in the ass" sound benevolent to you?
Depends. Is Ruby slow and gentle once his dick makes it all the way in? Tenderly groping her spats-covered butt while delicately thrusting into her tush? Constantly asking her if she wants him to keep going? Ruby knows better than to go hogwild or act like a roaring piston once inside. He's an asshole, but he's not going to be an asshole to his gf's asshole!

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>>58933269
>Maxie being murdered
Wait what?

>>58933269
You know, I feel like The remakes of Diamond and Pearl and Platinum could have resolved the Sird plotline give how it’s been on limbo for so long

>>58933805
Yeah, Maxie and Archie die in at the end of Ruby and Sapphie. Archie survives though bullshit. Shame they were revived though

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>>58933335
>>58933785

>>58934693
Kek

>>58934693
Beautiful.

>>58933766
Phat ass...

>>58889855
Gen 4 is just gen 3 on steroids

>>58936097
That's really saying something considering how fucking slow Gen 4 is

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>>58889855
>Pokemon, as a series, works best when there’s no overarching storyline.
>Gen 4 and Gen 5 really ruin the series.
TRVKE that makes underage posters seethe

>>58936120
Really? Platnium go the gym badges in like 30 days. Pretty quick.

>>58936652
Don’t remind me of that.

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>>58936121
BW mogs your favorite arc

>>58937429
Manga Hilda a cute

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>>58937451
Her name is White, but yes

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>>58937513
White Supremicists, where you at?

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>>58937752
https://www.amren.com/

>>58937578
What a sleeping. Beauty.

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>>58937752
Yo

>>58931330
Cute blue.

Is there a webpage that documents everything censored in the Viz release?

>>58938720
No

>>58937578
What a cute terrorist angel.

>>58938171
What a cutie.

>>58932293
Why was she such a troll so early on?

>>58888607
I wish I was Yellow in that situation

>>58938171
I want to see white again.

For the anons reading SV the translations are caught up now

>>58942761
Good to know

>>58938171
>HEIL

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>>58942761
Thanks

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>>58942384
Same

Sex with White

WHITE POWER

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>>58945161
Calm down, Black

>>58942761
Thanks, nearly forgot about that.

>>58931188
Misty wishes this was true.

If Ruby died, could Gold score with Sapphire?

>>58946045
Yes. That's why they're only given very limited on screen interaction, otherwise their compatibility would cause more people to ship them, and that'd fuck up the intended RuSa endgame framing.

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>>58946045
That would break the bro code.

>>58946231
Truth

>>58946045
That'd be funny. Though Crystal would kill him if he tried, wouldn't she?

>>58946045
>could Gold score with Sapphire?
Holy shit, I can see this happening.

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She's so cool

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>>58888607
Huh, I always imagine Blue to be the rape bait protagonist. Given that she was nearly raped in the manga.

>>58948917
Blue is sex

>>58949433
She really is.

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Why did Letty to surrender her body to Atticus?

>>58949584
Why wouldn’t she?

>>58948372
Why does she look like Wendy?

>>58948372
3edgy5me

>>58945646
Sexy hips

>>58937964
But why a maid?

>>58952692
Cute

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Would you try it

>>58953462
Yes.

>>58953462
Way too American for my taste.

Where's the best place to read this? I only read up through GSC as a kid.

>>58954543
There’s a website but I forgot the name.

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>>58954543
Weeb Central. Hasn't been updated for 2 years, but it has 64 volumes.
https://weebcentral.com/series/01J76XY95XQPYJZSVXQ1AFTAK5/Pocket-Monster-Special

>>58955694
Thanks anon. Wonder why mangadex doesn’t have this.

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>>58955966
Because Mangadex is a mess of a website.

>>58955694
Luckyshipping?

>>58955694
Are the new series considered separate from this? I could have sworn there was stuff for gens 8 and 9.

>>58949584
When does this bitch show literally any other expression/emotion than that one?

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>>58956035
Whenever she's in cosplay slut mode

>>58956028
Yes.

>>58956104
Hentai protagonist

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Does anyone have a version of this meme but with Courtney, Ruby, and Sapphire?

>>58956028
Yeah, but I also think whoever is uploading the series is waiting for the 65 volume to be released

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>>58956403
Of course I have it, I'm the one who drew it

>>58955694
I miss Mato. She should come back.

>>58956028
Main volumes and minivolumes are two different things
That site only has the main volumes (which only covers up to the penultimate ORAS chapter)
SM SWSH and SV are only in minivolume format so they are categorized differently

>>58956981
Are the newer series self contained or still part of the overall series? I remember GSC was kind of connected to the Kanto stuff so I don't know if it's like that or not.

>>58957226
Still part of the overall series. Occasionally, the old protagonist will show up.

>>58956889
Nice

>>58956403
Sad.

>>58956889
Damn, this is good,

pokespe abandoned its core appeal of actually allowing old characters to keep showing up with development

>>58959081
The first three gens had barebone stories. It allowed the author to do whatever they wanted. Now that there's actual plot, author is limited on what they can do.

>>58959118
true

>>58956104
Make a h-doujin out of her.

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>>58959118
Even Ruby/Sapphire came apart at the seams; Kusaka wants to give every. little. detail. it's due and Hoenn had too many of those. Considering they had to literally freeze time to squeeze in the E4 and Mirage Island.

>>58959697
Time stop?

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>>58960271
Anon is remembering it a bit wrong
It's varies between either fast or slow

>>58961151
I completely forgot about this part.

>>58961151
Yup, I forgot it was time slowing, not time freezing

>>58961151
RSE made a lot of weird choices.

im really ashamed and disappointed in the editor whoever they are. what if something happened to Kusaka or the other person?

>>58962991
Yeah, but it all came full circle at the end.

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>>58948917

>>58963463
Does Blue give paizuri? Has she ever offered it to Red?

>>58963621
Red is for yellow

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>>58963072
Maybe that's the plan because the editor knows both Kusaka and Yamamoto are elderly by now and had health issues impact their work.
>be editor
>life mission is to make pokespe worse
>one day gets Kusaka's proposal for volume 65
>hate the Ruby Sapphire sex scene idea
>rejects it
>Kusaka submits another proposal
>it's the same thing
>rejects it
>Kusaka submits another proposal
>it's the same thing
>rejects it
>Kusaka submits another proposal
>repeat cycle for 10-20 years
>suddenly Yamamoto dies of old age
>TPC scrambles to find replacement artist
>Japanese schizos mail bombs to Kusaka's house to protest replacing Yamamoto
>the stress kills Kusaka too
>TPC gives up because no one will read pokespe now
>pokespe ends
>editor no longer has to approve Kusaka's proposals
>editor no longer has to deal with a manga he hates
>total editor victory

why does the editor exist? has this been the same editor from the start or are they recent?

>>58963923
Don't know if it's the same editor or not. Also can all the obvious newfag tourists tell their fellow dicksword server friends to be less obvious.

>>58963881
This blushing >>58955694 disagrees.

>>58964437
That doesn’t count b

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It’s so over.

>>58964801
t. Yellow

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>>58964890
>"""mini""" manga
>volumes """1-12"""
>flimsy poster no one asked for with giant creases in it

>>58964890
They can’t keep getting away with this.

>>58965282
They can and will.

>>58964890
>70 dollars
What

>>58965007
You will love it

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Ken Sugimori was probably the main reason I got into art as a kid, next to the old Romita Spider-Man comics and all the different illustrations in dinosaur books. I had a couple of the game guides I would just draw his artwork from over and over and over during class. I never really appreciated his watercolour artwork until I got a bit older (for me it was more important for it to look 'accurate'), but I have to say it's a damn shame he left it behind for the digital art, even if I like some of that transitional period where it was a mix stylistically. It eventually lost that early roughness and sharpness that gave it a lot of personality. (Maybe it's just that general shift in art in Japan at the time where people moved on from aping Toriyama to stuff more easily translatable to digital.) It's also a shame he seems to do very little nowadays, either with the franchise or outside of it.

Green and Sapphire are the best pokegirls.

>>58966700
Best post so far

>>58964890
fuck this and the editor

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>>58966700
You forgot one

>>58966637
I miss the old art style.

>>58889537
Futagross? A Pokemon that happens to resemble Metagross?

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>>58966700
Based
>>58967490
Cringe now the thread will die soon during the gen 10 news spam

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>>58968925
Whatever you say old man

>>58968925
>gen 10 news
Wild that we get gen 10 news and zero updates on volume 64

>>58968925
What’s happening between those two?