Thread #58940418
Soothing winds...
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Golden!!
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>Jumpluff into Meowth
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>another set
>still nothing worth blowing my load on
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Just ran a gauntlet against metafags
>M-Altaria
>Hydreigon (they bricked)
>Suicune
Three in a row with this bad brew, very fun to dishearten Kangacucks with Piers
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>Someone offered me a Sabrina for my RR MAbsol.
Should I do it? Not sure if I should since I already have 1, and I'm low on dust.
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I warned that this game would go to shit if they made it too fast. Now we have rare candy and 130 dmg on turn 2, theres little dena can do to counter this unless they introduce a stadium that prevents more than 1 energy placement a turn.
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I still think pocket is a solid mobile game, but it sucks that it basically fell into the pitfall of never adding any notable features. Tourney mode? Spectator? Formats? Nothing. Dena isn’t even a little ambitious, im not even surprised because i played pokemon masters and they were also creatively bankrupt with that game
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I swear this set was intended to release around the time the Alola set go released, that's the type of powerlevel I'm feeling from this.
Flower trick seems like a cool idea but you know better than me that your opponent has greninja + rare candy glued to their hand no matter what.
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>>58940434
>they're reusing TCG illusts even for ex
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>>58941010
I never played mobile games until MHNow, which led me to try Pokemon GO and then this
It's insane how much the devs put into MHNow every season in terms of new features and little things to help with the grind that I never feel bad paypigging for the season passes
GO is held together by dogshit and nails and is unbelievably buggy and not worth your money, and this, while "functional", is so textbook minimum viable product that I'm shocked they can get away with what little they do
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Next set is so incredibly shit that I might not even bother trying to get the 24h picks unless it has some insane hidden gem and even then I'm not sure one could save it. Lolipop + this is proof they've 100% stopped caring at all.
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Every single iteration of Absol, Mega or not is such a fucking JOBBER holy shit
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2 Energy attacks should never do over 90 without a major downside, period.
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man, ive always been able to cook up off meta decks and atleast be able to go 50/50 on ranked. Nowadays it just feels impossible, i have no idea how to consistently counter 130 damage turn 2 on hydreigon, and altaria is right around the corner setting up doing similar damage. I really don’t understand how broken types keep getting stronger meanwhile fighting steel and dragon are always in such a bad spot.
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New sets do make for some slightly more interesting competitive matches between the new Steel and Psychic support that's kinda fun. Most games somehow still boil down to who draws their Sabrina and/or Cyrus in the correct order which actually ruins the whole meta for me, even good matches somehow boil down to who has their Sabrina early and Cyrus to finish the match.
Oh well. I always have more fun with my off meta meme decks anyway.
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Silvally was where the problem started. And now they feel obligated to powercreep it. I can only imagine what will powercreep altaria
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>Ban Ice pop
>Greninja's ability only works with water energy on it or in the active spot
>Copycat can't be played until turn 5
>Cyrus can only target Pokemon with 50 or more damage
>Oricorio clone is released in other colors and is actually good and useable and not a complete joke that only works if the opponent isnt an idiot or just playing the odds
>Rare candy prevents the pokemon from attacking the turn it evolves
Unless Dena actually changes the cards released, there's simply no way to stop Hydreigon without massively jacking up powercreep, which just replaces one form of cancer with another
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>>58943015
Steel type is really strong right now, you should be able to easily go 50/50 against meta Altaria or Gardevoir decks with the new steel type support.
Just using Metal Core Barrier x2 and Galarian Meowth/Perrserker x2 gives you a potential for -300 damage reduction with just 6 cards that you can slot into any steel type deck.
Combine that with your choice of primary attacker. Skarmory Ex gives you another -20 damager per turn same with Steelex both also work with Jasmine for another -100 damage.
Or you could use the Solgaleo line which auto resets your cards into the correct active slot (teleport and rising road, respectively)
Even something like Ageislash line gives you either the +30/+60 damage on steel type pokemon or the -80 damage shield against EX pokemon attacks.
I could give you my specific decklist but basically any combination of these cards should get you through ultra ranks
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>>58943061
All that shit you suggested sounds stupid. Hydreigon can be phased out very easily. They need to introduce a good plant deck which is strong against Hydreigon specifially. But Meow doesn't seem to be the one which
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>>58943061
I want to say this respectfully, but you clearly just need to get good. Because these changes are just things that you found annoying because you keep losing to them, they're not actually a problem at all the way Darktina was and Greninja decks haven't been an issue since Suicune release and honestly even then you could have just used an electric type deck and wiped them out.
I'll add that it's entirely possible your suggested changes would make the game more fun but it's just as likely they make the game worse, and I don't feel like they're clearly going to be solving any glaring issues.
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>>58943071
>Easily 50/50
Lmao, lol even
Good luck drawing any of that shit in a timely manner while Psychic just fucking dances around whatever you've started without skipping a beat & nailing your ass to a wall.
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>>58943106
Alright well now don't start nit picking specifics, but here's an example of a Steel type deck that I've been going even with meta Gardevoir/Alteria decks at Ultra.
Plenty of room for tweeks here, depending on what you're seeing most often but yeah hopefully this helps give you a jumping off point for a competitive steel deck.
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>>58943092
The more I come to these threads the more I’m convinced it’s just 1-2 dudes seething over Greninja. There are way more egregious cards than this that have been introduced just about every set. Card’s been in the game since the 1st set and Cyrus has been in the game since the 3rd. They’ve been present way before Suicune was introduced. Get over it already.
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>>58943122
No I totally understand the Greninja hate, that little faggot got support for like 4 expansions in a row. That's why I personally was just using an electric type tempo deck that I specifically designed to counter Suicune/Greninja/Giratina decks for the longest time. Now they're just not common enough to warrant that kind of thing, since with any luck at all my Hydrogedon deck can still stomp them out often enough.
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>>58943120
Over 8 turns this deck yeilds a potential for -520 damage reduction while also dealing 420 damage. Yes it'll require some luck to pull off, but with Guzma for Altaria's spiked helmet equip, Starting Plains used to replace their Peculiar Plaza, and then Cyrus to ultimately pull Altaria back out when they try to retreat him for Indeedee and try to stack heals it's pretty even with Altaria decks.
The only issue is when they have their Sabrina and Cyrus exactly when THEY need them as well, but that's been my biggest complaint about the meta for a while now.
So yes psychic is probably still stronger in terms of consistency since they can easily bang out those 130 damage attacks but when played correctly I'd say steel type has the higher threshold for power assuming you play correctly and draw with any luck.
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For anyone complaining about Hydrogedon any Grass type deck has been pretty strong since Quick Grow dropped and even a very basic Mega Venusaur deck has the set up to match him and 1 shot with 140 damage + poison (+sleep)
Also just a simple Jingling opening can shut down the entire deck before it even gets started by blocking pokeballs and rare candys
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>>58943274
Yeah, it's deffinetly hit or miss but technically you should have a better chance of hitting your evolutions with 2x rare candy and 2x quick grow. And even still you only need to get out the 1 mega Venusaur to almost always win, which gives you an opportunity to evolve one on your bench while just blocking with your active pokemon if necessary.
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Though you're right I guess even with Leaf Cape Ivysaur only has what 130 hp? So you'd also need like a Training Grounds or Liligent to increase your HP high enough to tank 1 full Hyper Ray attack so eh, yeah that's why Dark is so strong rn it is what it is.
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Ivysuar is such a funny pokemon, you know how broken this card would be if altaria and hydreigon didnt exist? Ivy with a helmet on effectively has 120hp. Meaning if you cant one shot it then mega venu auto wins. The issue is we’ve powercrept so much that its relatively common for decks to do that amount of damage so early. Setting up pokemon in the active spot is mostly a dead concept, the snorlax and double indeedee decks are ok but usually have negative win rates they arent stellar.
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>>58943395
Pick your poison I guess, part of how I really enjoy playing card games is identifying the meta deck I hate the most and building a counter deck specifically to defeat them as often as possible. That's what I would suggest, figure out which deck you hate most Altaria or Hydrogheddon (or whatever else) and build a deck that beats them as consistently as possible. Then maybe adjust from there to get a higher overall winrate. That's what I do anyway. Usually by the end of the season I stop seeing whatever I was countering and start seeing more mirror matchups so then I just shift my deck build towards winning mirror matchups moreso than winning the original deck I was trying to counter and that'll be your sweet spot for climbing across the season.
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>>58943472
>a counter deck specifically to defeat them as often as possible
Once you do that, you will never run into that deck ever again. You will instead constantly face only decks that hard counter your specific build.
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>>58943477
What's 19T? I was trying mega mawile for this strategy but it's only 170hp which is dogshit for a mega pokemon and getting Sabrina'd is an auto loss so it's not viable. Especially because this steel strategy is a control style deck, so you're just as well to run Solgaleo which has more HP more damage and can switch itself back into the active slot. (Plus can get the Lillie 60 healing) It'll either be Skarmory or Solgaleo for this deck, and I've just been using Skarmory because that makes room for Jasmine.
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Yurp.
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wtf mimikyu is bugged
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he didn't lose the ability after getting hit...
but took damage anyway??? that was his first time as the active pokemon
what the fuck.
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>>58943620
to mimikyu or to medicham?
mimikyu lost 100hp from that attack because medicham didn't have psychic energy. the problem is, he was still invulnerable... he didn't get on the active spot until that moment and there are no bench hitters.
mimikyu hadn't taken a single hit since the beginning of that match and its ability didn't even get disabled after it got hit.
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>>58943588
I kinda think they're aware that Pocket is hideously unbalanced and don't want to embarrass themselves by broadcasting a tournament where someone wins grand finals because they flipped heads on Ice Pop 7 times in a row
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>>58943327
I don't run Rare Candy at all in my Venu deck. And Leaf Cape gives you less effective HP than Heavy Helmet on the long run.
At least that's what I found most consistent, I also run 1 Serena in case the Growths get bottom decked.
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>my darkrai gets one shotted by a 140dmg turn 2 mega altaria
im not gonna cry victim, but genuinely what am i supposed to do lol.
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>>58943844
yes but slightly more complicated so that there's at least a potential to misplay or different flowcharts to follow depending on the matchup, whereas you literally do not change a single thing or have any questions as to what the optimal play is in pocket. imagine trying to commentate a pocket game
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>and it's the start of the semifinal!
>that's right, let's see, Ching Chong already has his wincon in his opening hand, but Long Dong is missing one, crucial card
>exactly, Long Dong needs to recover by drawing the right card on his first turn and..
>oh no, he's going first!
>wow, he just flipped heads like he was heading off to execution. But maybe, just maybe he can draw it
>nope, it's a brick
>yep, that's a win for Ching Chong, they will probably be going through the motions for 2 or 3 more turns before Long Dong concedes
>In the meantime, let's check out the match between Ping Pong and... oh that's already over.
>Do we have commercials here? We kinda need a commercial break.
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>misty was too powerful and we had to make 99% of water pokemon bad to compensate
>ok now lets add misty as a universal healing item
what the fuck is DeNA's problem?
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>>58944141
Not really. Lucky Ice Pop heals first, then you get to flip a coin to see if you can do it again, and you can choose to hold it for next turn.
Misty has a chance to roll Tails first, making it useless on the first use.
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9264172031305329
looking for
>3 diamonds
reshiram
zapdos
muk
aegislash
>4 diamonds
blacephalon
m-mawile
I have (B2)
>3 diamonds
roserade, yveltal, a!raichu, obstagoon, chandelure, perrserker, cornerstone!ogerpon, gardevoir, lugia, tornadus, chensaught, swellow, , buzzwoe, tyrantrum, cinderace, slaking, gourgist, aurorus
>4 diamonds
a!ninetales, m-kangaskhan, m-swampert, gigalith, mimikyu, m-gardevoir, toxtricity
you may ask for previous shit too
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>>58944179
yeah that's what I mean
they intentionally shafted the water archetype up until suicune because misty could theoretically win games on the spot
then they print basically the same card as a healer that fits into EVERY single deck while returning to hand EVERY coinflip, wasting everyones time in the process
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>>58944645
okay, check trades bro
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I think so? thanks anon
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Altaria makes no sense, you have some of the best stats and top 3 easiest access to damage ever. It doesn’t help that psychic is loaded with amazing basic pokemon
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>>58942971
Did it anyway.
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This altaria deck im using is completely broken
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i hate shinies so much it’s unreal
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Do I need another Pokeball? I subbed in Guzma for a base Jolteon
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>>58945549
Give this a try!
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Good idea
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The game desperately needs a replay feature
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Fun game.
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>>58945623
Change the art to a noose and make the effect: if either deck contains Greninja, Hydreigon, Altaria or Ice pop that deck's owner instantly loses (and their account gets deleted). There, I fixed the meta.
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>>58940661
Imagine lying on the internet>>58940773
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>get a hit
>one of the worst megas
Surely someone will trade it for a waifucard, right?
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>>58946497
I'll give you an FA Juggler for that.
>>58946504
we have bigger problems than Altaria.
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Finally hit masterball. thanks to the anon who recommended to use Buzzswole.
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get well soon anon.
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The secret to stop being (too) mad at this game is to always remind yourself how skill is not real and everything is just RNG. You can play against a deck that you should hard counter, but RNG decides you're going to hard brick and get fucked while your opponent gets a perfect hand. And it gets worse with every new set.
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>Forced Loss Simulator
Okay sure I can handle that-
>The most unviable horseshit to ever be played
Oh fuck ALL the way off
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>>58947169
I've been going back to Altaria packs for a chance at Lisia and Crown Lilligant (plus immersive Altaria). I think I'll be staying there for a good while because Gold Crown Lilligant is my ultimate chase card and I've already gotten 2 freaking flame patches.
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Gentlemen, I've refined my process for alt creation.
1. Pop open the alt, pick the Pikachu pack for the free Rapidash and Arcanine
2. Bookmark Crimson Blaze and start doing my daily pulls from there
3. Start assembling Team Mega Venusaur with daily shares from your main plus daily pulls
4. Clear out the lower difficulties on auto with the free Rapidash deck (with the free Arcanine added as a finisher)
5. Once Team Mega Venusaur is complete, you can do the rest by spamming auto
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Even if you wouldn't trade, having a higher count of 2*s is good for if you have an alt to trade yourself good stuff
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>>58947996
My account is linked to my Nintendo account, which has my Home account linked to it as well.
And like I said I'm a coward, if they at any point decide to enforce a "no alts" rule and ban me I'm gonna regret it.
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>>58947169
I mean you pretty much nailed it with the Cyrus/Sabrina/Copycat (in that order) grinds the standard but unless there's a specific mon you want it's really just only that
Who knows, got a Mars while grinding for Cyrus so that worked out. But currently I'm on my 3rd FA M-Blastoise chasing that golden buttplug
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>>58947934
Not necessary, firstly because it is a brick against decks that don't trigger it so the user is already playing at a -1 or -2 card disadvantage in those cases, and then because you wouldn't even need to run the card as the mere fear of facing it would instakill the fag decks. In fact I think Giratina could be added to it just so Darktina never resurfaces.
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Bro thinks he's him
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Looking for RR toxtricity, have the following to trade
>RR ninetales, RR mimikyu, RR gigalith
>probably some stuff you're looking for from previous sets
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>>58948664
It is necessary. If you're not willing to commit to exclusively becoming a meta tranny slayer and just want to reap the benefits, you're just as bad as the meta trannies.
>add Giratina to it
I'll allow it
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>>58949184
Gimme Lisia or RR Mimikyu
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>Over 100 packs opened
>0 Immersives
>2 2 stars (both Planeta trash)
>Had to spend tens of thousands of Shinedust just to finish out the 3 and 4 diamonds
> Enough pack points to score a whopping one (1) 4 diamond
And this would've cost $100 in microtransactions.
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Tips on making Gooner more consistent? Seems to brick a lot more than my Blaziken despite having similar composition.
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>>58949356
>4 2stars (2 Planeta mons, 1 trainer, 1 RR)
>Immersive cat
>my first crown since TL
>all in a crisp 82 packs
But I agree, the Diamond Dex was like pulling teeth to finish and I had to trade quite a few as well. 155 in one pack is too much.
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>>58947169
saving a little for future packs but occasionally pulling x10 every now and then for certain cards to spruce up my deck
i rarely put my eggs in one basket desu, just not as fun. on the recent occasion i pulled a little bit more on fantastical parade and it paid off but other than the Dialga/Palkia packs i stopped obsessing over one pack for too long
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>>58949749
it's sad seeing people actually spending on this trash. that you would consider buying a digital card via a third party is just pathetic, holy shit
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>>58949948
Why is it that every time someone suggests not spending money on dumb crap someone else always acts like not spending money at all is not an option?
What, you'll die if you don't throw x dollars away at stupid shit every month? You'll be compelled to just throw the money in a fireplace? I wonder if this is why so many people have 1 trillion subscriptions that they just never cancel.
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>>58949994
>spending money on dumb crap
You're on a fucking hobbyist board, having a hobby generally involves spending money on dumb shit. And as far as dumb shit goes, $10 for $400 worth of ingame currency is leagues away from the dumbest shit you could buy, especially when dealing with a money-hungry franchise like Pokemon.
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Can anybody trade me mega swampert ex
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>>58950356
If you're gonna play tyrantrum then use a pokeflute and build the deck around it with a pokemon like snorlax that tanks for it until you have it online. Garchomp and lucario is a separate deck (which is dated so no use today)
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>>58950356
Cut at least one of the 2-stage lines, makes the deck too unreliable, specially when they both need 3 energies to work and there's no acceleration for Fighting types.
And add a second Rare Candy.
Leftovers is not a great healing option, put a Lillie in there since you don't have late game Supporters.
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>>58942726
It seemed like they started to realize that and did great with CB Charmeleon and Ivysaur (and at least TRIED with Wartortle), but then they just... stopped again. Part of why Mega Garde flopped so hard is that Ralts and Kirlia are colossal jokes. Confusion, REALLY?
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>>58949356
Yeah this just ain't worth it to me. My current strategy is to make an alt for each expansion and then only fill the Diamond Dex for every mini set. I can start getting 24 Hour WPs pretty quickly without burning resources so I'll both have chances of getting 2*s I wanted from the mini and also have spare 2*s to trade to my alts for the shit I REALLY wanted that I couldn't get.
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Ty anon. Mega swamp was the last I needed
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>he somehow hit heads on lucky ice pop at least 10 times across multiple turns
>still loses
matches are truly something else in the trenches
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>>58950087
>having a hobby generally involves spending money on dumb shit
The "dumb shit" is usually the required equipment needed to enjoy said hobby, like buying a bike, or fishing equipment or a musical instrument. The difference is those things have tangible value and can be sold back if you ever tire of them, while TCGP cards are worthless pngs the devs put the minimum effort into in hopes some idiot (you) is willing to spend money on them.
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>>58950613
>The difference is those things have tangible value and can be sold back if you ever tire of them
And what if I don't sell them back and the money's effectively gone forever? And what about shit like, I dunno, digital games? And if we really want to get in to the weeds about this, the "tangible value" is gonna be, in all likelihood, peanuts compared to if you had invested that hobby money in to an index fund or something. In that sense, it's still spending money on dumb shit.
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>>58950730
Probably Copycat. DX Lillie works only in decks with 2 stage lines, while copycat can be used in any deck.
Should be something like
>Oak
>Cyrus
>Copycat
>Sabrina
>Lillie
Followed by trainers that are essential for some decks (Lusamine, Will, May, Serena) and the looker tier garbage at the end.
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>against mega venu with leaf cape
>playing mega char
>he plays blue
>takes out my heatran
>okay whatever I'll put in my other basic and attack with mega char next turn
>he has two cards left in his hand and plays blue again
Kek would have lost if I didn't flip heads on the sleep or tied if I didn't have my ice pop
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>>58951051
>The only way that happens is if you're stupid or a neglectful bastard
...or I just didn't sell them because I never got tired of the hobby?
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If I’m trying to just get to masterball, when do I figure I need to change up my deck, i need to fix my skill issues, or when I’m just bricking and I should push through?
I’m getting some milage out of oricorio/magnezone, so I was just going to stay the course.
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>>58951728
>when do I figure I need to change up my deck
When the "I had this card in hand for 5 turns and it never gave me any benefit" or "If I had x card this duel would have gone differently" happens in multiple games.
>i need to fix my skill issues
This is mostly hindsight, reliving the game. "Oh that one turn if I had played x then y instead of y then z, then it would have been better"
>when I’m just bricking and I should push through
When it happens at random without any trigger or as a direct result of a play.
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>>58951728
are you steadily moving up toward masterball? or are you more or less stagnant? If you're getting there, no reason to rush or force it. If you're not really climbing then it would be worth looking into those things.
If you have the means to rewatch your own matches after the fact to review them, it makes it a lot easier to look at what you could have done differently or what cards aren't working in your deck
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>>58944271
Unironically? Zard Y. They wanted their precious baby boy to be good and seethed when he flopped. Then some guy went "well how do we make absurd oneshots more useful" and somebody else went "what if we incentivise killing things in one shot more often"
The problem that they overlooked?
HYDREIGON COULD ALREADY DO THIS EARLY TO MOST NON-EX POKEMON
Lucky Ice Pop is an indirect Zard buff but that doesn't matter when Hydreigon was already crazy and only loses one point on defeat
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>>58944271
I honestly wouldn't even mind the ice pop as much if they just streamlined or sped up the stupid animation and flipping bullshit.
I don't care about le production value, just get this shit over with so we can play the game
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>>58950450
We have too many retards who cry about how the government needs to give them free shit and then these same retards drains their wallets and milk their penises for the most retarded shit ever
Bring back the guillotine
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>>58950651
Then your hobby is one of the few hobbies that's even more retarded than spending money on a gacha, unless you're some social media cocksucker that managed to go big and makes money back through reviews or some shit
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I play this game mostly as a card collector.
With 20 years of experience in table top games I don't think I've seen a more scuffed version than this. Not that most card games don't fill a set with 95% chaff but damn there's just nothing you can do if the other guy gets a better start than you.
I get that the "Pocket" part means it's supposed to be simple but I genuinely don't think anyone's working on balance and they just shit out cards. Really wish mobile card games would take full advantage of them being digital and regularly roll out balance patches. Probably scared to upset the hyper whales.
I've never touched the irl TCG, is it as busted as this?
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>Suicune cocksucker goes second, godhands, and starts drawing like crazy because of his Ability
>I Copycat off of him twice throughout the game
>second one won me the game off Rare Candy + Hydreigon, activate Rare Candy and he frame perfect forfeits
HAHAHAHAHAHA
Suicune and cards like it are the exact reason Copycat needs to stay in this game. What a little hero she is.
>bu-bu-but you were playing Hydrei-
Yeah STFU Pocketmads Suicune has been fucking this game up far worse for far longer
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I think mega pokemon just kinda suck, mega altaria is gonna be the best one for a long time. Mega absol miraculously works because it can delete cyrus. Ive tried other successful recent decks with mega pinsir and kang and it just feels miserable.
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>>58952333
>Mega absol miraculously works because it can delete cyrus.
The more important part is that it's got good bulk and is very inexpensive energy wise, and slots into a deck that mostly provides its own energy. If there was a Stage 1 Dark Mega with a 1 Energy Attack, Absol would already be out of a job
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>>58952354
Yeah but starting with it leaves your balls open for days, not to mention getting Cyrus'd itself (they won't always have in when you attack) down the line especially if you brick long enough.
I dunno, it just seems like dead weight half the time & moreso than not I wish it was a different mon due to less than desirable power.
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Why do I keep pulling male trainers, bros. I want a girl.
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>new set on the horizon
>no 2 stars or immersives at all
>still missing like 7 regular three-diamonds
This is a complete disaster. I have never been this unlucky with a set, just empty pack after empty pack
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>>58951933
They keep adding more and more shit like rare candy and babies and low energy stage-2s that are basically designed to accelerate the game as much as possible and have you in checkmate by turn 3 with no counterplay. It's ridiculous
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>>58952944
If anyone is loaded with cards could you please help me with some shares. I can do some trades for older mons too but have no more dupes from this expansion
7505634237748606
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>>58952944
I only got a single 2-star in the entire set, included saved hourglasses. Almost 700 pack points, its the most unlucky I've personally been. This set is cursed and I'm glad its on its way out. I don't look forward to having to come back and hit pity for my gardevoir immersive
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>>58950513
the reason I took out eevee bags for pops because they're just too broken. what you running grass bro?
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>>58954048
This.
>>58954032
Your opponents were probably just bricking on their balls.
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I cooked!
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>>58954048
Most Altaria decks I face don't even run Indeedee anymore. It's just Chingling to stop Hydranigger turn 3, and pumpkaboo for the cheap 70 damage to nuke basics in the way of altaria
Indeedee's 20 HP a turn is too slow, plus Ice Pop potentially does that better, without really bricking your opening hand
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>>58954207
>two pokemon that require the other on the field mixed with the pokemon that wants you to have fewer pokemon then the opponents field
I'm really not understanding the falinks here. Its not just counter intuitive, its DOUBLE counter intuitive
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>play ranked
>lose on turn 4 to hydreigon spam
>play ai
>lose on turn 4 to blatant cheating
the actual game is dead at this point and its hard to see them remedying it
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I just played the single sackiest high roll piece of shit I've ever had the misfortune of going up against
>Mega Altaria ft. Meowth and Greninja
I genuinely don't know how they managed to make a deck more high roll than Hydreigon but they fucking did
>>58954647
It's a fucking luckshitter set that's what it is
>Ice Pop
>Meowth
Fucking why
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>>58954647
this game is not notorious for power creep, but the opposite. there have only ever been a handful of good cards with each set release outside of maybe mega rising. darktina reigned for eight months. some form of "thing plus greninja" has been good since launch.
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I'm glad Carnivine is getting some use this season.
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>>58955222
funny thing is I really want to side in poncho however ice pop won me so many games.
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>>58955232
Pretty similar ideas honestly
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>>58955245
Seems like you have way too many basics that it would be difficult to win? I assume you want carnivine and arceus in your hand to start, but odds are low.
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>>58955280
You want to start either pichu or carnivine
pichu makes arceus or oricorio live early, and you can one tap chingling/deino/swablu with carnivine if you find arceus
may and copycat help fix your starting hand
You'll definitely want to research before using pokeball when playing this though. Sometimes you just brick.