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>Scarlet and Violet should have level scaling! It’s not really open world because some things might be higher level than me so I’m forced to do everything in a specific order!!

>>58994629
HMs are good

>>58994629
HD-2D is a fucking blight I don’t understand why it hasn’t died off yet.

None of you know any normies. This is just a seethe at strawman thread.

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>>58994629
i genuinely want this so bad
>but it wouldn't work!
make it work

>>58994629
>that pacifidlog
Anti soul

>>58994629
>retarded
The normies are actually right in this case. GF clearly doesn’t care about keeping up with the times in terms of graphics so they should’ve just stuck with 2d instead of this retarded halfassed 3d
If pokemon used heavily stylized and detailed 2d like a lot of indie games the games would look polished and modern instead of looking 20 fucking years old on RELEASE lmao

>>58994629
Retard

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>>58994999
>retarded halfassed 3d is bad
>that’s why they should do retarded halfassed 3d but with sprites thrown on top of it

>>58995017
I’m talking about actual 2d not hd2d retard

>>58995043
Ok so you’re just an illiterate retard and missed what OP said then. Never mind.

>>58994629
>>58994656
>>58994999
Reminder that the same people who want Pokemon to return to a 2D style are the same dumbasses who hated BDSP when it came out for precisely that reason

>>58994784
Why wouldn't it work? Sure, it would be zoomed in just as the original, but what difference do these tile sets make space wise?

>>58995043
>he responded to a wojak
Friendly reminder that arguing against them is futile because they're set up in a way that they can't be refuted despite being wrong.

>pokemon needs voice acting!

>>58994644
This is literally true though. But it's not about some places being higher level, it's the fact that you can skip to the higher level places, and then just steamroll all the lower level places after. That's no fun

>>58995827
>train pokemon
>”wtf why are my pokemon stronger now?”

>>58996713
You don't train more than one mon in nuGen, everything else in your parry just gets free levels from exp share without you training them
Gym leaders at least should scale with the amount of badges you have

>>58994629
I will never understand the normie CLAMORING we see about certain countries being turned into Pokemon regions.
The desire made some sense 10 years ago where a lot of regions aesthetics, locations, and pokemon roster were all angled around the location they chose, but they've rly moved away from that imo and just kind of use a real world for some cheap cultural references and maybe 2-3 pokemon lines

>Bro what if Gyms were based on THEMES rather than types??!

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>>58996735
>You don't train more than one mon in nuGen,
Yes you do. In fact nugens are the only games where you train more than one Pokemon.

Still waiting for you to refute this btw

>>58996735
>Gym leaders at least should scale with the amount of badges you have
Yeah I fucking love the idea of never being able to do a single challenging gym in the game!

>>58996774
i still don't get what's really wrong with this one

>>58996775
>freshly caught shitmon can't stand up to a higher level opponent
Almost like you gotta train it first, you dumb nigger
>>58996781
They could just make the gyms challenging at every stage though

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>58995017
>58996775
this is our resident schizo, just so you're all aware. i know there are a lot of tourists here right now.

>>58995608
It's just not feasible for most of the sprites in a pixel game to be totally unique

>>58996813
>Almost like you gotta train it first, you dumb nigger
b-but these games are piss easy! we should be able to sweep the elite 4 with a level 8 shitmon!

>>58994629
>fucking retarded normie takes
Don't lewd the Poké lolis! Oh my God that teenager is practically a toddler! Pedophile!

They're going to announce gen 11 is going back to its roots but its gonna be those ugly faux pixels with a billion shaders like the 2d squenix ones

>>58997132
Yeah this is why ORAS are great because they just hand you a legendary and its mega stone early on so you never have to think

>>58996813
>Almost like you gotta train it first
But how will I get opportunities to train it if it faints to every opponent?

>>58997459
By fighting weak wild mons in the area you caught it until it gets stronger?

>>58996774
ok but this is based
Gymleaders being dogshit losers that don't even attempt to test your mettle as a trainer beyond knowing how to click a type match up 25 games into a series fucking blows

>>58997484
So I need to…grind? That sounds annoying and tedious

>Pokemon only started going to shit with the Switch games

>>58997506
That's what training is, yes

>>58995827
This
Having to reverse engineer developer intent because the game design is that sloppy is a flaw. A bad one.

>>58998147
The “intent” is that you can do whatever you want, retard. I’m sorry that linear slop mindbroke you.

>>58998164
>The intent is that you can have a single good battle and then the rest of the game is easy slop
I guess the devs need to have better intentions then.

>>58998356
>do iono fight
>then tulip fight
>then grusha fight
>get 3 challenging battles

>play gen 5
>get 0 challenging battles

>>58994629
Is this bait? Not a single pic on the top looks better than the Ethan bell tower one.

>>58997506
haha it used to be called training, you know, like as in pokemon trainer...

>>58996931
Why not?

>>58994629
>overdetailed slop
Top is also garbage

>>58994656
It's very cheap to produce and covers up a lot of otherwise low effort art direction decisions. In other words it's "good enough" for the low budget games it's generally used on.

>>58994784
so retro

>>58994629
hear me out
what if they took the hollow knight or cuphead approach and make it have a 2d animated artstyle with hand painted backgrounds

>>58994629
HD-2D is hideous but most of the shit on top is nothing special either. Especially the bottom right ones that look like one of those Gameloft mobile games from 2004.
The Mystery Dungeon and Ranger games were the real ideal for 2D Pokemon.

>>58998380
>Is this bait?
No but your post is

>>58996775
Clefairy can only be caught at level 8 in the first room of Mt. Moon.

>>58999434
So if it was lv12 it could have beat the Pidgeotto?

>>58994629
I actually played the emerald demo, it was buggy as shit and crashed all the time

>>58999444
it can be higher than level 12 if you train it.

>>58994629
>Pokemon fans just complain!

>>58999409
ranger was kino, they should've brought that shit back

>>58999409
>Especially the bottom right ones that look like one of those Gameloft mobile games from 2004.
Now you're going to imply Game Freak had a cool unique artsy style and that their pixel art games weren't generic-mobile-game-styled in the first place

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>>58994629
I've seen a lot of people who only play on switch/shift instead of set and then complain that pokemon games are too easy. Yes most of them are too easy, but regardless of whether you're playing XY with xp share on or are nuzlocking Platinum or USUM, if you play on easy mode and refuse to switch to normal mode but still complain about the lack of challenge, you're a retard.

>>59000649
Playing on set mode actually made the games easier for me because it discouraged me from switching around my Pokemon more often and I ended up just funneling all my exp into one Pokemon lol

>>59000661
so the games weren't easier because of set mode, they were easier because you overleveled a single pokemon

>>59000698
Yes, which set mode encouraged me into doing

Basically it funneled me into accidentally playing the game more optimally

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>>58994629
I just want sprite and pixel art based Pokemon games again. On a comfy handheld that actually fits in my tiny baby hands.

>>58994629
>>58994784
These look hideous however

>>59000707
so the games weren't easier because of set mode, they were easier because you overleveled a single pokemon

>>59000820
Yes, which set mode encouraged me into doing

Basically it funneled me into accidentally playing the game more optimally

>>59000765
how the fuck does it look hideous. shit looks magnificent

>>58994644
What SV needed was smarter map design
>a wild pokemons level is determined by how far they are from the starting location
>gym leaders change their teams based on the number of badges you have before facing them

>>59000878
Yeah never being able to fight a challenging gym leader ever because shitters are too afraid of fighting high leveled gym leaders sounds fucking awesome!!

Johto has a bad level curve btw!!!

>>58995072
BDSM isnt HD 2D you mouthbreather

>>59000885
Its an RPG dipshit there's no such thing as challenge when you can grind through every roadblock

>>59000878
>>59000885
They don't even need to make early game teams teams for any of the gyms.
The endgame gym leader should have an endgame team and that's all you get to challenge.
But if you have more badges, the Weenie-Hut-Jr. bug type gym leader should be allowed to pull out more than a lv.10 caterpie and a lv.12 cascoon

>>58995645
Fuck you. Either have voice acting or stop having these awkward fucking scenes where they silently flap their lips.
Banjo Kazooie sounds are acceptable but this just ain't working.

>>59000831
so, just so we're clear, the games weren't easier because you played on set instead of shift, they were in fact easier because you overleveled a single pokemon, which you could have still done while playing on shift.

>>59001076
Yes, which set mode encouraged me into doing

Basically it funneled me into accidentally playing the game more optimally

>>59001082
okay so just to clarify. just to make sure. you played on set mode, and the games were easier, but does that mean they were easier because you played on set mode? because from the way you describe it, it sounds like the games were easier because you overleveled a single pokemon.. but, you could have played on shift, and still overleveled a single pokemon, yes?

>>59001088
The games were easier as a consequence of me playing set mode because funneled me into accidentally playing the game more optimally, yes

>>59001093
>yes
so you agree with me, the problem is not set mode but instead overleveling. i'm glad we could come to this agreement.

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>>58994784
Everyone posts that one but it's not the only city he did this way.

>>59001097
>but instead overleveling
That was a consequence of me turning on set mode, yes

>>58994644
FPBP
It would make the whole level system pointless and every area would feel the same
Plus the gym battles would be even easier cause you can't be underleveled

>>58994629
>pokemon hasn't changed since the beginning, it needs to innovate, every new release should be radically different to the last
idk why people level this complaint at pokemon so often when this is just how every video game series is

>>58994784
Christ that's an eyesore.

>>59001162
you're saying yes, which means you're agreeing with me that overleveling is the problem, not set mode

>>59001247
>overleveling is the problem,
That was a consequence of me turning on set mode, yes

>>59001262
you just did it again

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>>59001852
Did what again? Explain what happened when I turned set mode on?

Also sup sagie

>>59001006
only autists care about this lmao

>>58996774
explain what the problem is with this
god forbid we move on from pissbaby type gimmick and introduce a modicum of difficulty into the games

>>59001892
>Explain what happened when I turned set mode on?
the game became more difficult

>>59002061
Actually it became easier because it accidentally made me play the game more optimally

>>59002120
i don't think it did that. i think you did that.

>>59001958
thanks for the concession

>>58994629
>>Pokemon should go HD-2D!
that's a based take, OP

stop being a faggot

>>59002481
that's not a concession. you're just retarded.

I love that enhanced gen 2 style in the op.
Pair that overworld with 3D battles in the style of the pokemon stadium games and I would be a happy man

>>58994784
Nigga that whole image is a massive clusterfuck, absolutely horrible color balance.
>>59001206
This

>>58999380
>what if they took the hollow knight or cuphead approach and make it have a 2d animated artstyle with hand painted backgrounds
Making a pokemon game in cuphead style would probably cost upwards of a hundred million

Set mode is a joke that doesn't make the game harder to begin with because unless your pokemon is underleveled you're going to have baseline more speed evs and outspeed them anyway.

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I'd be happy with an HD-2D remake of a pokemon game, it beats getting yet another 3D remake that shrinks everyone down to doll proportions.

>>58995017
>putting a sprite in that kind of environment
Nobody does this.

>>59003153
shhh, you're ruining the strawman

>>59003153
look at the post above you