>trying to use logic to decide how it's balanced
For the love of god you people need to stop this.

>>58999793
You have to make it make some level of sense. You also have to know when to eschew pure logic in order to make the type balanced. What you see above is me doing that. Too many time people will say something offhanded and retarded like
>sound wouldn't make sense because nothing can "hit" sound super effectively or nfe!!!
so if we applied pure competitive logic to it it would be criticized for that. If you notice I said
>>58999784
>Buffs weak types, nerfs strong types,
at the end

>>58999784
Sound type is never happening. If they were going to ever do it would have been during Gen 6, but they went with Fairy instead.

>>58999856
>it's never happening
but it SHOULD happen regardless

>>58999871
I think the type chart is balanced enough as it is. Fairy just needs a debuff. Make it weak to ice. Doesn't make much thematic sense but neither does fairy being weak to Steel.

>>58999815
Ice can amplify sound, sounds destroy entire ecosystems of bugs, psychic could arbitrarily flip either way, the logic for grass applies to everything, sound does not cancel out other sound, fires can be both started and put out with sound waves.

No other type is balanced around real world logic. I don't get why fans keep doing it.

Yes because Steel needs to be nerfed even more.

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>>58999912
>No other type is balanced around real world logic.
>>58999815
>You have to make it make some level of sense. You also have to know when to eschew pure logic in order to make the type balanced.
water puts out fire
fire burns grass
grass absorbs water or whatever
stop being obtuse when I already explained that you need to make it intuitive while avoiding an overly rigorous adherence to logic
I swear, you people

>>58999912
>sound does not cancel out other sounds

Except it does retard. Ever heard of active noise cancelling? So according to your „logic“ the sound type should be immune to itself.
That said sound type is stupid and everyone wanting it should die.

>>58999916
Yes, it does, it's one of the best types in the game. Easily top 3, along with Fairy and Water. There's only a couple others that come close. Dark and Ghost are probably up there. But Steel is better.

>>58999893
Ice needs resistances mostly, and there's a few other things. Rock is really bad defensively, Water has too few weaknesses also, Bug needs resists, etc.
>neither does fairy being weak to Steel.
Iron has always deterred fey in folklore though

>>58999916
Steel was never truly nerfed since its new matchup against Fairy has become so valuable. You could even argue it was buffed because it used to be useless offensively, something that justified its crazy number of resistances.

>>58999952
>grass absorbs water or whatever
You can't even get through your own examples without waving it away.

>>58999962
And an ice cube puts out a tiny fire. Active noise canceling isn't shit.

>>59000081
are you fucking stupid
that is the fucking point
it has to make intuitive sense, but not be burdened by adhering to strict logic.
Re-read this post as many times as you need to to understand you room temp IQ brainless FAGGOT.

>>59000097
There's nothing intuitive about it. You're just an autist that has played so much pokemon that you confuse it with reality. How does bug intuitively beat dark? Why is psychic weak to dark? Brown piece of shit.

>>59000108
>You're just an autist that has played so much pokemon that you confuse it with reality. How does bug intuitively beat dark? Why is psychic weak to dark? Brown piece of shit.
how are you so fucking stupid
>How does bug intuitively beat dark?
Intuitive to the designers because over there "dark" means evil and bug-type heroes are super common; it's a reference. Retard.
>Why is psychic weak to dark?
Because nefarious tricks beat intelligence. This one's obvious to english-speakers, too!
>Brown piece of shit.
You're the illiterate retard here. Why is your stupid argument "HURR DURR YOU SHOULDN'T CONSIDER LOGIC AT ALL" anyway? That's absolutely beyond retarded. It's plainly obvious to anyone with two braincells to rub together that the types are designed to make some level of sense while also allowing for decisions to be made for the sake of balance. I mean hell that example above with Dark being weak to Bug and SE against Psychic was that latter form primarily, but you're trying to claim that there's NO intuition for Pokemon types? That Bug hits Grass SE for pure gameplay benefits? Do you have down syndrome? This is an entirely indefensible position you've stumbled upon.

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>>59000108
Good God, you are retarded, go away fag.

>>58999784
>Ice (Doesn't travel well in snow)
it's called ice type, not snow type

>>59000161
what a silly thing to say

I don't think it's happening this gen, but if you think they're never going to add a type eventually (keyword: eventually), you're delusional. The series has hit Disney-type of success where our grandchildren will likely be playing the newest generation, and new types are an easy way to both refresh battling and give life to older Pokemon that get retyped.
Perhaps down the line, there will be a shakeup of types in general, and sound might become an actual type instead of just a move characteristic.

>>59000296
they might also start experimenting with what it even means to be a type, like if they suddenly decide "uhhhh move properties are actually secretly types everyone, please welcome wind, sound, contact, aura/pulse, ball/bomb, dance, slicing, and biting to the type list!" one day

>>58999962
Shift your filter and you have an amplifier dumbass (constructive interference vs destructive interference ANC uses) so the same thing can be used to justify it being super effective on itself.

>>59000438
doesn't matter, point is that it CAN, and he said it COULDN'T. Sound DOES cancel out other sound.

>>58999784
This might be the best version of the Sound type I’ve seen yet. Kind of wish this was real.
>Bronzong and Chimecho in the image
With these type matchups a Sound/Steel Bronzong or Mega Chimecho would only be weak to Fighting.
Any other type combos here that would be very strong?

>>58999916
Aggron does NOT need anymore nerfs, nigger.

>>59000528
Aggron being bad is more the Rock types fault though

>>59000528
rock just needs to be buffed TBQH, plus aggron should just be stronger than he is, he should have been another pseudo

This thread was shitted up because it proposed a new resistance for Ice.

Thanks Sharty.

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>>59001052
why would the streety care about ice getting a resistance??

You forgot Pyroar and Eskeledirge

>>59001254
>he doesn't know
The Sharty constantly fucks with this board and the mods are compromised.
There's even a literal wiki for this board that's all about trolling tactics dedicated to it ranging from copypastas to strawman wojaks.

>>59000173
All of ice’s weaknesses are based on the fact that it’s ICE, not snow, dumbfuck

Rock, metal, and punches can all easily shatter ice, hence it’s weak to those things. You’re just a dumbfuck trying to force his fanfic type into being a good idea.

>>58999784
>Sound
already exist as an attribute
>Music
falls under Fairy

>>59001314
Uh huh and what would hit it supereffectively if it was exclusively snow? fire and what else? Nothing? Right so it doesn't matter at all. I don't know what you autists' obsessions with things being only one thing but it's really silly, or however that works. Something along those lines.

>>59001398
Nobody cares about this. It doesn't need to fit YOUR tastes. It would obviously work. Selfish little retard.

>>58999871
no lol

>>58999784
>more type interactions than fairy
sound detractors are so dumb.
>ohhh sound doesn't make seeeense how could it be a tyyyyype???? what would hit it super effectivelyyyyy????
when gamefreak added a type with a far more tenuous type interaction system
I'm still mad. it's been like 13 years.